JPG, I thought the unsaver was an F. Is it an M?
I don't think that the Soarer worked with Fs because they're capacitive?
If you ever want to sell this keyboard, send me a message!
But yea, a Soarer converter should do the job. You get a chip (teensy or pro micro clone), load the code, either build a box to use the original cable or remove the cable and use some female-male dupont cables to make the connexion. Can be a little tricky to get it done right the first time, but once you get the twist it's not hard at all.
This is truly a very nice keyboard. Take good care of it!
I'm still on the fence about selling this keyboard and a few other people have already shown interest in it so eBay would probably be the fairest way to find it a new home.
I have an F122 working via Soarer's converter so hopefully it does support this keyboard. I need to find some documentation about the connectors this keyboard has since it doesn't have the same 240° 5-pin DIN connector as my F122.
JPG, I thought the unsaver was an F. Is it an M?
My unsaver is definitely a Model F although there is a rubber dome version.
Wow the less common unsaver with the awesome controller!
These keyboards are excellent, truly the pinnacle of model F engineering. Until we learned about the 4704 boards that is, Still it can be adapted to a very modern layout and many people value them even more highly than the 4704s.
Sadly they do not work with a soarer converter. A soarer converter works on ibm terminal protocol, as well as PC/XT and AT (and PS/2). It also works with a special terminal keyboard, we like to call a "bigfoot" model F, and similar converters exist for the ibm 4704 keyboard protocol also used by the "pingmaster" keyboards.
This uses the same connectors as an IBM 5083/ 5085 cad / graphics terminal. I have no idea what it was used for as it has different legends than mine. I used to have pictures of mine but I must have deleted them. I will have to take more.
Anyway, the cable is completely different than the one for that IBM 3290 plasma terminal keyboard, and the protocol is different too. You will need to replace the controller with a DPH or Xwhatsit to get it working on USB.
Alternatively use the "parak method" and just grab a spare controlelr from a 122-key model F
http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci (http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci)
Thanks for the wealth of information. I read somewhere online that the engineers/administrators who used Model F's with the extra function keys used to remap them based on personal preference and move the keycaps around. I should be able to get an extra F122 but I think I would feel bad using it as a donor.
Wow the less common unsaver with the awesome controller!
These keyboards are excellent, truly the pinnacle of model F engineering. Until we learned about the 4704 boards that is, Still it can be adapted to a very modern layout and many people value them even more highly than the 4704s.
Sadly they do not work with a soarer converter. A soarer converter works on ibm terminal protocol, as well as PC/XT and AT (and PS/2). It also works with a special terminal keyboard, we like to call a "bigfoot" model F, and similar converters exist for the ibm 4704 keyboard protocol also used by the "pingmaster" keyboards.
This uses the same connectors as an IBM 5083/ 5085 cad / graphics terminal. I have no idea what it was used for as it has different legends than mine. I used to have pictures of mine but I must have deleted them. I will have to take more.
Anyway, the cable is completely different than the one for that IBM 3290 plasma terminal keyboard, and the protocol is different too. You will need to replace the controller with a DPH or Xwhatsit to get it working on USB.
Alternatively use the "parak method" and just grab a spare controlelr from a 122-key model F
http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci (http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci)
Thanks for the wealth of information. I read somewhere online that the engineers/administrators who used Model F's with the extra function keys used to remap them based on personal preference and move the keycaps around. I should be able to get an extra F122 but I think I would feel bad using it as a donor.
At this point you should go for the new controller option from Xwhasit (sry for destroying the name) like The_Beast mentionned above. I think that it's the logic thing to do with such a precious keyboard.
I'll probably order some of xwhatsit's controllers for some of my other keyboards. But it would be faster and cheaper for me to pick up a donor F122 and use Soarer's converter to get this keyboard working. Yesterday I had the chance to buy four F122 for less than the price of one of xwhatsit's Model F controller but I have no use for four extra F122's.
Wow the less common unsaver with the awesome controller!
These keyboards are excellent, truly the pinnacle of model F engineering. Until we learned about the 4704 boards that is, Still it can be adapted to a very modern layout and many people value them even more highly than the 4704s.
Sadly they do not work with a soarer converter. A soarer converter works on ibm terminal protocol, as well as PC/XT and AT (and PS/2). It also works with a special terminal keyboard, we like to call a "bigfoot" model F, and similar converters exist for the ibm 4704 keyboard protocol also used by the "pingmaster" keyboards.
This uses the same connectors as an IBM 5083/ 5085 cad / graphics terminal. I have no idea what it was used for as it has different legends than mine. I used to have pictures of mine but I must have deleted them. I will have to take more.
Anyway, the cable is completely different than the one for that IBM 3290 plasma terminal keyboard, and the protocol is different too. You will need to replace the controller with a DPH or Xwhatsit to get it working on USB.
Alternatively use the "parak method" and just grab a spare controlelr from a 122-key model F
http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci (http://imgur.com/a/W3Hci)
Thanks for the wealth of information. I read somewhere online that the engineers/administrators who used Model F's with the extra function keys used to remap them based on personal preference and move the keycaps around. I should be able to get an extra F122 but I think I would feel bad using it as a donor.
At this point you should go for the new controller option from Xwhasit (sry for destroying the name) like The_Beast mentionned above. I think that it's the logic thing to do with such a precious keyboard.
I'll probably order some of xwhatsit's controllers for some of my other keyboards. But it would be faster and cheaper for me to pick up a donor F122 and use Soarer's converter to get this keyboard working. Yesterday I had the chance to buy four F122 for less than the price of one of xwhatsit's Model F controller but I have no use for four extra F122's.
I might get those F122's to resale if they aren't missing too many keycaps.
Hmm, I might get those F122's to resale if they aren't missing too many keycaps. I didn't spend any time inspecting them since I'm not in the market to get another one. I wouldn't mind sending you the spare parts but shipping would probably be too much to make it worth it for you.
Hmm, I might get those F122's to resale if they aren't missing too many keycaps. I didn't spend any time inspecting them since I'm not in the market to get another one. I wouldn't mind sending you the spare parts but shipping would probably be too much to make it worth it for you.
Eh, depends where you're located I suppose. Outside of 50 states would likely be not worth it, yep - but I could actually use a spare case, amongst other things. :)
I can never resist grabbing cheap Fs myself even if I don't need them...
Hmm, I might get those F122's to resale if they aren't missing too many keycaps. I didn't spend any time inspecting them since I'm not in the market to get another one. I wouldn't mind sending you the spare parts but shipping would probably be too much to make it worth it for you.
Eh, depends where you're located I suppose. Outside of 50 states would likely be not worth it, yep - but I could actually use a spare case, amongst other things. :)
I can never resist grabbing cheap Fs myself even if I don't need them...
I'm located in Texas (Austin). I went back to look for the F122's yesterday but I couldn't find them. Although, I did pick up an SSK. I'll probably clean it up and bolt mod it if necessary. The only downside it that it was missing a few keycaps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kzmy60n.jpg)
Hmm, I might get those F122's to resale if they aren't missing too many keycaps. I didn't spend any time inspecting them since I'm not in the market to get another one. I wouldn't mind sending you the spare parts but shipping would probably be too much to make it worth it for you.
Eh, depends where you're located I suppose. Outside of 50 states would likely be not worth it, yep - but I could actually use a spare case, amongst other things. :)
I can never resist grabbing cheap Fs myself even if I don't need them...
I'm located in Texas (Austin). I went back to look for the F122's yesterday but I couldn't find them. Although, I did pick up an SSK. I'll probably clean it up and bolt mod it if necessary. The only downside it that it was missing a few keycaps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kzmy60n.jpg)