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Offline Puddsy

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What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« on: Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:46:22 »
Not form factor, just features.

Givens:
  • Fully programmable
  • Full LED compatibility

Mostly looking for things like "underglow" or "split spacebar"

Your feedback might end up on a custom board.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:53:58 »
Top and Bottom case lock in together so the sides are always flushed.

Through bottom weight.

Partial plate.

I guess these fall under form factor, when I see features I think exclusively about the PCB or plate

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:55:29 »
Top and Bottom case lock in together so the sides are always flushed.

Through bottom weight.

Partial plate.

I guess these fall under form factor, when I see features I think exclusively about the PCB or plate

i forgot about a thru weight

that's also implied
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 00:07:14 »
Topre Switches, HHKB Layout.

ACtually, just an hhkb.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 00:50:40 »
  • Split spacebar
  • ISO layout
  • underglow backlight in a simplistic colour
I would also like to get a Norwegian PBT ISO layout in Dvorak keycaps, but that's hard to do (not SA or DSA Caps though)  :p
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 00:53:18 »
TKL

Cherry profile PBT

Alps switches

I'm set for life.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 03:51:37 »
USB-C would be nice. Future proofing your $500+ keyboard is a no brainer
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 03:53:26 »
  • small dial for LED intensity in an unconspicuous place (not a fan of a remote)
  • small dial for LED colour in an unconspicuous place
  • Underglow

Example of how a dial for intensity could look like:


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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 03:58:26 »
software
  • customizable on any platform (i.e., open-source firmware flashable from anywhere), or the latest Kinesis' approach
  • unlimited keymap configuration, layers and dual-role keys
connection
  • detachable cable with a durable connector, e.g., SDL or RJ11, worst case properly implemented microUSB (because they're abundant)
  • NKRO
keys
  • quiet, deep thock sound, no higher-pitched clicking, clacking or pinging
  • shine-resistant surface, that doesn't get sticky/dirty easily
  • labels, that aren't tactile (e.g., dye sublimation)
  • no lights
  • contoured key tops (ideally slightly spherical)
  • damped impacts without too much mushiness; perhaps high actuation point and damping through post-actuation travel
  • smooth travel
  • subtle tactility (parabolic curve, duh)
case
  • lightweight but with good rubber stickers
  • scratch-resistant
  • no lights other than, perhaps, dim/reflective strips on the edges
  • minimal bezel
  • no "floating" design, i.e., with a lid to protect keys in the corners
layout
  • about as wide as tenkeyless, or narrower
  • symmetrical (columnar or symmetrically staggered)
  • non-trivial hand separation/angle
  • home positions close to keyboard edges to minimize reaching distance to an external pointing device
  • accessible modifiers and special keys: probably thumb keys in combination with the outermost columns
  • the same modifiers on each side, symmetrically placed (at least Ctrl, Alt, Shift, AltGraph, Super)

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 04:09:12 »
only thing missing from my 60% AEK is split spacebar.
2x3u or 2u+4u spacebars will make my custom board perfect  :thumb:

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:22:06 »
  • Topre RealForce RGB guts
  • White (powder-coated) CNC aluminum case

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:30:46 »
Split space option, 60% or 65%, Alps compatibility.

I don't care about LEDs at all.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:06:24 »
>=100% form factor
Focus layous
Alps SKCM blue
thin ABS doubleshot keycaps
thick, plastic case
steel chassis

Oh wait, I already have that :p .
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:25:56 »
True NKRO over USB, waterproof/dustproof/chatterproof, at least two integrated pointing devices (a TrackPoint in the usual place, and another pointing device of some kind near the arrow keys), 100%+, big-ass enter and 2u backspace (\ belongs on the same row as /; just reduce the size of right shift), copious internal stress relief for the USB cable, full-height case, 1000hz, no aluminum, no domes (not even ones with springs under them).
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 21 June 2017, 17:44:28 »
-ANSI with ISO enter and backslash
-A couple toggle switches that can be assigned to swap whatever we want
-Space for mounting through-hole LEDs on the bottom (for underglow)
-Split backspace (1xDel, 1xBkSp)
-Split left shift
-Split right shift
-Heavy duty PCB, for soldering noobs
-Both Alps and Cherry mount
-Decent price point
-Easy programming support for alternate-action switches (MX Lock, etc)
-Not smaller than 60%
-Plate has cutouts for switch top removal

That's about it.
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 21 June 2017, 17:48:21 »
Programmability

Split backspace

pretty lights

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 08:50:09 »
1. Programmable
2. Hot swappable switches
3. Option to split RSHIFT and Backspace (60% form factor)
4. Gotta love that bank gothic Pok3r keycaps, I wish the legend would not fade.

That' all. I don't need much, I'm happy with Pok3r.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 09:02:13 »
I've always wanted a keyboard for my living room with the following

-wireless
-built in pointing device (track point or track pad)

Basically something like a logitech k400 but mechanical.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 10:02:57 »
True NKRO over USB
I don't think that's possible.
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 10:22:10 »
The Keyboardio Model 01, where the palm keys are also trackballs. You could still press them, and they'd act as keys then, but they'd double as trackballs too. Also a slightly more powerful MCU than the Atmega32U4, so that I can fit more crazy stuff into the firmware.

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 12:52:23 »
1: Fully, completely programmable, including the option to program totally functionless dead keys.
2: Fully programmable per key RGB so a keys current function is clearly indicated. (Like the Anne Pro during Bluetooth programming)
3: Firmware that also allows "Double-Taps" as a modifier so a "Double-Tap Left shift" would set/reset Caps Lock. (The most worthless key on a keyboard, located in a premium spot.)
4: 60% form factor
5: Excellent double shot PBT caps.
6: Heavy, quiet case. (Like a Pok3r)
7: USB C. (It IS the 21st century after all...)

Not asking for too much really...

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 13:24:19 »
7: USB C. (It IS the 21st century after all...)

+1

Opens possibilities to go crazy with cables for next to nothing instead of DIY or 20$ ones off massdrop ...

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 13:59:38 »
Have tinkering and mods in mind:
* If you don't include a pointing device, do at least offer the option to add one: Holes on the PCB/bottom for mounting one or several of the available trackpoint modules out there and three switches in front of the space bar for mouse buttons.
* If you don't split the space bar, allow the option for it.
* Support ISO and ANSI. (That should be a given.)
* Header for additional keys or functions.

I don't agree with having USB Type C. Cables are thicker than other USB cables, pointless unless you can use the additional capacity and there are reversible Micro B plugs around.

True NKRO over USB
I don't think that's possible.
HaaTa's Kiibohd firmware has it, and maybe others. The difficulty has been to cater to various operating systems' different quirks. I think those have been found now and adjusted for.
« Last Edit: Thu, 22 June 2017, 15:05:08 by Findecanor »

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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 14:38:54 »
Yes to:
* Fully programmable
* Open source: I want full control
* Ability for the OS/Apps to tell the keyboard what I want. (Changing apps can change layout)
* At least a Atmega32U4
* OS X, at least
* detachable cable
* Either about 60% split or 145% layout. I'm an extremist. So looking forward to the GH-122 at about 146 keys.
* LED intensity control for backlight only.
* At least 7 single LEDs that I can control in software. Things like NumLock, status of mod keys (held, locked, in 1-shot mode),  Active layer.
* Low profile

Don't want:
* RGB LEDs
* Per key LED
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Re: What features does your ideal custom keyboard have
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 22 June 2017, 14:40:44 »
Support ISO and ANSI. That should be a given.
And JIS, ahem.