Author Topic: [GB] Programmable Vintage board PCBs - Omnikey, AT101, and Z-150 (Read 15534 times)

BlindAssassin111 · « **on:** Fri, 29 June 2018, 17:04:26 »

Welcome!
I recently ran a GB for the Omnikey PCB I designed and after a few modifications to fix compatibility with older variants of the omnikey, I am back with round 2.

Along with the Omnikey board I will have the AT101/AT101W/SGI board and a Zenith Z-150 board for sale as well. Details below

PCB Renders:
- Omnikey PCB

- AT101 PCB

- Z-150 PCB

Sorry for the bad renders, I don't have any better way to render PCBs at the moment.

Product Info:
The boards will be matte black with ENIG(Gold) pads, with silkscreen in white. Omnikey has a logo, AT101 may have a small logo, Z-150 may have a small logo, will be determined before manu order.

- The Omnikey board Supports:

Ultra
Ultra T
101
102
Plus
As well as all other derivatives/variants

-The AT101 PCB supports:

AT101
AT101W
SGI variants

-The Z-150 supports just itself as I don't know of any other board that would work at the current time.

What is Needed:

Teensy++ for the Omnikey and Z-150
Teensy2.0 for the AT101(must solder all pins to the PCB as there are a few extra pins that were used for the matrix in order to fit a smaller mc)
Indicator LEDs
Resistors for LEDs
Switches
Diodes, if not bought along with PCB

Omnikey Layouts:
Supported layouts include all original layouts for the omnikeys, and include the option for ANSI or ISO support for enter and shift keys. As well there is the option for the below layouts, matching colors can be swapped and red keys will have to be given up to do so.

You can cut of the extra function columns on the left hand side, using either a razor saw and cutting down the middle of the plated holes where the silkscreen line is. Or you can score down that line, on both sides, with a sharp blade and snap it off to support boards without the extra function keys.

AT101 Layouts:
Supported layouts include all original layouts for the AT101s, and include the option for ISO support for enter and shift keys. As well there is the option for the below layouts, matching colors can be swapped and red keys will have to be given up to do so. Options include both style stepped caps lock, 1.5U and 1.25U, to allow support of Tai-Hao alps cap sets and cherry style sets.

Z-150 Layouts:
Supported layouts include the original layout, along with an AT/XT and TKL hybrid layout.

Pricing:
Note: Prices do not include final shipping or Paypal fees.

PCBs:

Omnikey:

10 - $66
15 - $53
20 - $46
30 - $36
40+ - $33

AT101:

10 - $65
15 - $51
20 - $45
30 - $35
40+ - $31

Z-150:

5 - $85
10 - $56
15 - $43
20 - $39
30 - $30
40+ - $27

Diodes:

140 - $6
110 - $5

Tai-Hao Spacebar stab adapters:

1 set - $5(estimate as quantity lowers price)

Shipping:

US - $15
International - $15 to $20

Schedule:
This GB will open on 7/2 at 5pm central time and close on 7/23 at midnight central time.

Invoices will be sent out once I receive your order and are due on receipt. Once the GB closes I will refund the extra amount paid for any price drops hit. Failure to pay by 7/27 at midnight central time, will black list you from future GBs. I don't want to have the same issues I had with the Nexus slider GB, so this is how it will be done.

Production will take 2-3 weeks to arrive at my door. From there I will ship them out within 1 to 2 weeks depending on how many PCBs are ordered.

Order Link:
Link: https://goo.gl/forms/Ayiuc56LBBcvK2sS2

Note: If you were part of the first round and you experienced issues with fitment, please PM me prior to placing your order to confirm a discount on your order of a round 2 omnikey PCB.

Note: If you wish to order a Round 1 omnikey PCB that is guaranteed to fit the Ultra T, 101 with the badge door, and Avant variants. I have a few available for sale for $34 each. Pm if interested.

Live Order Count:
Omnikey - 0
AT101 - 7
Z-150 - 8
Inserts - 12
Diode sets - 11

Photoelectric · « **Reply #1 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 10:45:23 »

Thread approved, good luck with the GB!

As always, Caveat Emptor.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #2 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 11:07:54 »

OMG! I'd finally be able to play overwatch on a AT101W! I love my Dell but the lack of proper N-key rollover is a deal-breaker on overwatch. You rock, man. You rock. Now time to find one to frankenstein off of ebay!

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #3 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 11:48:51 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Sat, 30 June 2018, 11:07:54

OMG! I'd finally be able to play overwatch on a AT101W! I love my Dell but the lack of proper N-key rollover is a deal-breaker on overwatch. You rock, man. You rock. Now time to find one to frankenstein off of ebay!

Glad to hear you like it!! I have an extra case and plate, albeit the case it painted badly...blame my young teenage self on that one.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #4 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 12:06:46 »

So, which Teensy do I need for the AT101? Also, where do you guys buy yours?

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #5 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 12:09:02 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Sat, 30 June 2018, 12:06:46

So, which Teensy do I need for the AT101? Also, where do you guys buy yours?

For the AT101 you need the Teensy2.0, forgot to put in the post, but you need to solder all pins for the teensy2.0 as I used the extra ones that don't fit the pro micro footprint in order to make the keyboard matrix fit on a smaller mc.

pr0ximity · « **Reply #6 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 21:06:33 »

Plz go back in time and offer these before I modded my Z-150

)

Very cool buy, will have to think about whether I can stomach resoldering it again......

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #7 on:** Sat, 30 June 2018, 22:02:06 »

Quote from: pr0ximity on Sat, 30 June 2018, 21:06:33

Plz go back in time and offer these before I modded my Z-150 )

Very cool buy, will have to think about whether I can stomach resoldering it again......

I can understand that one...Could always get it now and save it for later, not sure how popular the Z-150 is honestly so I don't know if it will typically hit MOQ in future rounds. Just a thought.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon, 02 July 2018, 15:39:21 »

Update:

Just wanted to note that the Z-150 board has been changed a bit, I moved the Teensy++ a bit and added notches on the top edge of the board similar to the original, I was waiting for measurements before I made that change, and I will update pictures when it is fully finished. This will not affect cost.

Tarienn · « **Reply #9 on:** Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:44:26 »

Are these boards Alps only? No MX compatibility?

idlemao · « **Reply #10 on:** Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:50:16 »

Really hoping a good number of people jump in on the Z-150. I'd be awesome to get the PCB for cheap and finally be rid of worrying about that converter compatibility.

Awesme job BlindAssassin111!

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:57:21 »

Quote from: Tarienn on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:44:26

Are these boards Alps only? No MX compatibility?

Correct, These are meant to be drop in replacements for the alps boards, hence no MX compatibility.

Quote from: idlemao on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:50:16

Really hoping a good number of people jump in on the Z-150. I'd be awesome to get the PCB for cheap and finally be rid of worrying about that converter compatibility.

Awesme job BlindAssassin111!

I think we are on the way to QTY-10 from the interest I have seen, but that is an estimate. I hope more get in on the Z-150 than that!

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #12 on:** Mon, 02 July 2018, 17:00:02 »

GB is now live!!!

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 06 July 2018, 00:20:20 »

Bump, Nothing has hit MOQ yet, but still have time!

Omnikey - 1
AT101 - 4
Z-150 - 2

TerryMathews · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 06 July 2018, 09:05:17 »

That AT101 one would be fun if it was MX compatible.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 06 July 2018, 18:51:08 »

Has anyone run a plate for AT101w? I guess I could just mod the plate to use a non-stepped caps?

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 06 July 2018, 18:57:37 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 06 July 2018, 18:51:08

Has anyone run a plate for AT101w? I guess I could just mod the plate to use a non-stepped caps?

To my knowledge, no. But I was expecting those who wanted to modify to modify the plate, as making a universal alps plate isn't smart. I could have ran a plate for the purposes of a non-stepped capslock, but I don't know if that would be economical.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #17 on:** Sat, 07 July 2018, 14:03:13 »

Update:

Z-150 hit MOQ!!!

Current:
Omnikey - 1 Sad that this is still so low

AT101 - 6 Getting closer to MOQ
Z-150 - 6 Getting close to the first price drop!!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #18 on:** Sat, 07 July 2018, 17:34:11 »

C'mon 101, hit that price drop!

At that price it's such a good deal. I mean, you could resurrect an old board down the road if/when it fails.

I've got plans to cerakote an AT101W I'm look at on ebay. I'm thinking a gray or blue. Not sure yet...

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:34:03 »

Update:
Just about one week left, and still under MOQ for the Omnikey and the AT101, hopefully more orders come in soon!! Please spread the word to help!

AuthenticDanger · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:17:06 »

So the Z-150 PCB would allow the use of MX switches, right? How do stabilizers work (or do we need to make custom plates and mount 'em that way)?

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:54:13 »

Quote from: AuthenticDanger on Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:17:06

So the Z-150 PCB would allow the use of MX switches, right? How do stabilizers work (or do we need to make custom plates and mount 'em that way)?

The Z-150 does not support MX, all of the boards are alps only. Main reasoning being these are meant to be drop in PCBs for the cases that already have plates. The reason the Z-150 has another layout option is it was requested by the user who wanted me to design the board. As well it would almost be impossible to support MX as there are some switches that would end up shorting out due to how many layout options some keys have.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:56:26 »

Update:

I extended the GB until the 23rd as we are not at the MOQ for the Omnikey or AT101 PCBs. If you know someone who has one of these that may be interested, please let them know, we are so close and it would suck for this to not reach MOQ.

catamscott · « **Reply #23 on:** Sun, 15 July 2018, 21:53:49 »

been going back and forth on whether i want to harvest or refurbish my z-150 for a long while now, but this has finally pushed me to just clean it up. hoping the z-150 pcbs hit their price drop!

idlemao · « **Reply #24 on:** Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:01:56 »

How are we on the Zenith Z-150? I'm hoping for the $56 price point

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:38:20 »

Quote from: idlemao on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:01:56

How are we on the Zenith Z-150? I'm hoping for the $56 price point

We are currently at 8. It is also the only board that has hit MOQ and it was the one I expected not to...

idlemao · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:50:13 »

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:38:20

Quote from: idlemao on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:01:56
How are we on the Zenith Z-150? I'm hoping for the $56 price point

We are currently at 8. It is also the only board that has hit MOQ and it was the one I expected not to...

Awesome! I should be getting paid soon so I might be able to join in at last. What teensy do I need with this?

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #27 on:** Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:56:28 »

Quote from: idlemao on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:50:13

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:38:20
Quote from: idlemao on Sun, 15 July 2018, 22:01:56
How are we on the Zenith Z-150? I'm hoping for the $56 price point

We are currently at 8. It is also the only board that has hit MOQ and it was the one I expected not to...
Awesome! I should be getting paid soon so I might be able to join in at last. What teensy do I need with this?

Sweet, that sounds good!! You need a Teensy++, I could have done it with just a 2.0, but it was requested that I use the ++ instead.

AuthenticDanger · « **Reply #28 on:** Mon, 16 July 2018, 17:56:39 »

Any chance we can see live order counts? It might nudge people to jump in.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #29 on:** Mon, 16 July 2018, 18:06:35 »

Quote from: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 16 July 2018, 17:56:39

Any chance we can see live order counts? It might nudge people to jump in.

Added.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 18 July 2018, 22:36:05 »

Update:

Still low on orders.

The omnikey is now down to zero as that order was canceled.

The AT101 is at 7, and I may go ahead and push that to MOQ just because I want to get those who ordered boards but would rather have those purchased instead of sitting around.

The Z-150 is at 8 and before that order was canceled almost hit the first price drop, so unless we can get 2 more ordered by 7/23, the price will not drop.

idlemao · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 19 July 2018, 00:38:22 »

I might be able to get the Z-150 one soonish (been taking longer than I wanted, but a lot of costs raking up like late fees

)
But not being sure if it'll get the price drop is a slight deterrence.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 19 July 2018, 00:52:08 »

Quote from: idlemao on Thu, 19 July 2018, 00:38:22

I might be able to get the Z-150 one soonish (been taking longer than I wanted, but a lot of costs raking up like late fees )
But not being sure if it'll get the price drop is a slight deterrence.

If you order we will be at 9, I will make a deal with those who ordered, I will drop the price to $61 per board, just above the cost of the drop to cover my losses. If that helps make that decision, I am fine with doing that. I will have an extra board left over that someone may want after the buy closes, quite a few did that with the omnikey round 1 board, so that is fine with me.

If I can get 2 more AT101 boards ordered I will push that to MOQ, as I can only take 1 board loss on all of these. I don't have the room to store extra boards as I already have a few omnikey boards laying around.

AuthenticDanger · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:20:29 »

I’m in for a Z-150 PCB.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 23 July 2018, 08:48:13 »

Quote from: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:20:29

I’m in for a Z-150 PCB.

Sweet!! If everyone pays, then I will go ahead and drop the price down to $61.

Update:
As for the AT101 PCB, I will go ahead and order the quantity that people have ordered to date, which is 7. I would rather people have the board than cancel it, price will stay the same.

Reminder the GB ends tonight at midnight central time so if you are planning on ordering an AT101 or Z-150 PCB please make sure to have your order in. All payments are due by 7/27 or your order will be canceled.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 23 July 2018, 09:59:41 »

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Mon, 23 July 2018, 08:48:13

Quote from: AuthenticDanger on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:20:29
I’m in for a Z-150 PCB.

Sweet!! If everyone pays, then I will go ahead and drop the price down to $61.

Update:
As for the AT101 PCB, I will go ahead and order the quantity that people have ordered to date, which is 7. I would rather people have the board than cancel it, price will stay the same.

Reminder the GB ends tonight at midnight central time so if you are planning on ordering an AT101 or Z-150 PCB please make sure to have your order in. All payments are due by 7/27 or your order will be canceled.

That’s generous of you. Thank you.

fireworm · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:57:04 »

Is it too late to order a z150? I'd be down one to close any lazy folks, or get it up to 10.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:58:48 »

Quote from: fireworm on Thu, 26 July 2018, 21:57:04

Is it too late to order a z150? I'd be down one to close any lazy folks, or get it up to 10.

Will let you know, still waiting on two to be paid for so...you may get your chance.

fireworm · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 27 July 2018, 00:46:39 »

Also, is it possible to get the super rare 1.75u, 1.75u, wkl bottom layout in the z150? Seems perfect for a zkb2 / zkb3 cap set otherwise...

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #39 on:** Sat, 28 July 2018, 00:54:17 »

Update:

So bad news...3 invoices went unpaid and because of this the AT101 dropped down to only 5 PCBs. I will push this through still as I can make the boards using the companies prototype process instead which is a tad cheaper, because I don't pay for the tooling to use in the future, still great quality just they limit the options to make it cheaper to produce. So boards will be gloss blue this time and have lead free HASL instead of ENIG to save money.

As for the Z-150 orders dropped to 8, but I am giving someone the chance to order the 9th board which will drop the price to $61 if they choose to order.

Because of the way this GB has barely stayed afloat, I will no longer be selling PCBs and will focus my time elsewhere seeing as I can't even make MOQ and have to lose money, time and effort just to sell things. I wish this didn't go how it did, but **** happens and we have to move on if it is no longer sustainable. This will not be the last time you see products designed by me, but the last time I run them in this manner, I will one day be a big name, mark my words.

catamscott · « **Reply #40 on:** Sat, 28 July 2018, 17:02:14 »

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 28 July 2018, 00:54:17

Because of the way this GB has barely stayed afloat, I will no longer be selling PCBs and will focus my time elsewhere seeing as I can't even make MOQ and have to lose money, time and effort just to sell things. I wish this didn't go how it did, but **** happens and we have to move on if it is no longer sustainable. This will not be the last time you see products designed by me, but the last time I run them in this manner, I will one day be a big name, mark my words.

it's a bummer this gb was so difficult, this was a great project and it's unfortunate that it wasn't more successful. no doubt you'll be a big name though, you're already doing excellent things. excited to see what you've got in store for the future

pixelpusher · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 28 July 2018, 22:14:10 »

I'm also a bit confused why it didn't pick up more buyers. These are all tried an true classic boards. Why would you not want a backup or a fully programmable version?

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #42 on:** Sat, 28 July 2018, 22:56:10 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Sat, 28 July 2018, 22:14:10

I'm also a bit confused why it didn't pick up more buyers. These are all tried an true classic boards. Why would you not want a backup or a fully programmable version?

Yeah I thought it would be a bigger hit seeing as so many people have the AT101 keyboard and it was an excuse to build them to use. Even the IC form showed more would buy it, Oh well.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #43 on:** Mon, 30 July 2018, 17:24:30 »

Update:

I just placed the order with the manu, should have the boards in 2-3 weeks. Manufacturing will take 8 days for the Z-150 and 5 days for the AT101, and shipping to me is via DHL so it will take only a few days for that.

Thank you to all who ordered I wish this went better than it did, but the market isn't looking for this at the moment it seems. I have other, much larger projects in the works so look forward to some ground breaking things coming in the future, including PCBs, Cases and Switches.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #44 on:** Wed, 08 August 2018, 12:41:07 »

Update:
The inserts are on their way, and everyone actually got upgraded to inserts for 6.25U, 6.5U and 7U as it was easier to print the same thing as the Nexus GB all at once rather than spend more money to get the 6.25U only printed.

The PCBs are scheduled to finish on 8/10 so I will update once they actually ship.

I have been working on the firmware in the meantime but have been taking it slow trying to figure out the Z-150 out as I need to setup two separate layouts and it is my first time doing so.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #45 on:** Wed, 08 August 2018, 14:50:38 »

TY for the udpates. Looking forward to this project. Now, I just have to decide what switches to put in it

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 09 August 2018, 21:24:04 »

Update:

PCBs have shipped, no eta yet as the tracking hasn't updated yet.

The inserts were supposed to get here today, but now the tracking says tomorrow...

Will update when I get more info.

Still working on the firmware, but have a bunch of other projects going on in the background so I haven't made much progress.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #47 on:** Fri, 10 August 2018, 13:40:33 »

Update:

Inserts have arrived!!! Don't have a picture atm.

PCBs will be here monday.

Still struggling with the Z-150 firmware...if anyone knows how you are supposed to setup multiple layouts for a single board that would really help because I am not sure if I have done it correctly or if I am way off. I may have to upload as is and get someone to fix it for me.

The AT101 firmware hasn't been started yet, but it only has a single layout so that is easy to do, just a pain to format because of the way the matrix had to be laid out to fit on a Teensy 2.0.

BlindAssassin111 · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:34:51 »

Update:
PCBs have arrived!!!! These are way better quality than the last manu, and I am really happy to see how well they came out. Even the AT101 looks amazing as is.

I haven't checked packaging yet to see how much I have left, but I have been really busy so I hadn't gotten to it yet. I will be shipping this week and next week as I can but it may take a bit because these boards came at a very busy time for me so sorry in advance if I ship any a tad late, plus this time I don't have a running car so shipping takes a bit more effort(I am fixing my car this weekend).

As for the firmware I am basically done with the AT101, just have to do the final touches to add the info on the board. The Z-150 is still not finished as I still have no idea how to setup the multiple layouts in QMK, so if anyone knows how that is done I would appreciate it if you could help me.

Oh and I noticed a mistake I made on the Z-150 that I sadly missed during layout...The board doesn't support split backspace as they are identical switches, and not individual like they are supposed to be. So if you were planning on doing split backspace I am very sorry, I didn't notice until I was trying to figure out the layout for QMK.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #49 on:** Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:43:50 »

Quote from: BlindAssassin111 on Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:34:51

Update:
PCBs have arrived!!!! These are way better quality than the last manu, and I am really happy to see how well they came out. Even the AT101 looks amazing as is.
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I haven't checked packaging yet to see how much I have left, but I have been really busy so I hadn't gotten to it yet. I will be shipping this week and next week as I can but it may take a bit because these boards came at a very busy time for me so sorry in advance if I ship any a tad late, plus this time I don't have a running car so shipping takes a bit more effort(I am fixing my car this weekend).

As for the firmware I am basically done with the AT101, just have to do the final touches to add the info on the board. The Z-150 is still not finished as I still have no idea how to setup the multiple layouts in QMK, so if anyone knows how that is done I would appreciate it if you could help me.

Oh and I noticed a mistake I made on the Z-150 that I sadly missed during layout...The board doesn't support split backspace as they are identical switches, and not individual like they are supposed to be. So if you were planning on doing split backspace I am very sorry, I didn't notice until I was trying to figure out the layout for QMK.

Glad to hear it! I picked up some decent spray paint to test out. Going to try it on my quietkey to see how to finish looks an holds up. If it works, I'll soon have my blue bigfoot 101W!

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Author Topic: [GB] Programmable Vintage board PCBs - Omnikey, AT101, and Z-150 (Read 15534 times)