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Offline Tom_Kazansky

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[IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - GB starts January 10, 2022
« on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 09:22:09 »
Hello everyone,
Welcome to the interest check for the FKS87.


277169-0

IC Form: https://forms.gle/PQFcAeW6HUooLrrh9

I want to make a southpaw TKL, here are the renders: https://imgur.com/a/pq4kzMj

More
277171-1
277173-2
277175-3
277177-4
The prototype:
279769-5
more pics: https://imgur.com/a/t77AGlH

the specs of this board:

Case:
- CNC'd 6061 Aluminum
- Top mount
- 6° typing angle

Plate:
- CNC'd 6061 Aluminum
- Universal layout

PCB:
- ATMega32u4
- QMK and VIA supported
- ESD protection
- Type-C USB daugtherboard
- Soldered PCB
- Supported layout:
276476-6

Color: (anodization)
- Black, Blue, Red, Silver, Yellow

Kit Content:
- Case (top and bottom pieces)
- Plate
- Weight (there is no weight, unfortunately)
- PCBs (main one and daugtherboard)
- hardwares: screws, bumpons

Group Buy detail:
- GB Date: January 10th, 2022 to January 23rd, 2022 (a period of two weeks)
- Sale format: 30 ~ 50 units, FCFS (first come first serve)
- Price: 250 USD + shipping.
Shipping will be invoiced separately when the boards are complete.
Ships from Hanoi, Vietnam
- Fulfillment time (estimated): early April, 2022



previous form: https://forms.gle/q8X7Cadv9seCYSZ8A (Closed)

If you're interested in this board, please fill out this form: https://forms.gle/PQFcAeW6HUooLrrh9

Any and all constructive feedback is great!
Thank you.
« Last Edit: Mon, 03 January 2022, 22:10:34 by Tom_Kazansky »

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 12:24:09 »
Renders? Form doesn’t work.

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 13:03:32 »
add renders of something and the form doesnt work this is pre ic needs a lot of work

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 19 September 2021, 20:08:07 »
add renders of something and the form doesnt work this is pre ic needs a lot of work

Renders? Form doesn’t work.

form fixed.
I can't decide on some layout option so I need your feedback.

Offline linell

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 02:12:06 »
Always wanted to see something like this!

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 09:33:54 »
are you designing this board or are we?

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 10:07:14 »
Always wanted to see something like this!

thank you!  ;D

are you designing this board or are we?

I design it but I want to sell to you (the users).
I'm afraid my taste is... weird and it might be difficult to sell the board.  :blank:


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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 19:59:06 »
form updated:
- add image to bezel option
- add more options to "above nav cluster"

you can edit your response now.

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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 20:29:17 »
This is what I, a consumer, would like to see as a successful TKL.

1. Yellow, silver, and black only.
2. Top mount, aluminum plate only
3. f12 (f13 will look odd on southpaw)
4. 1mm corner fillets; 12mm top, 5mm sides, 8mm bottom
5.    No knob, OLED on that spot you picked
6. stainless steel through weight (assuming you can do it since you have SSplate option)



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Re: [IC] TKS87 - Southpaw TKL - pending design decisions
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 21:23:10 »
This is what I, a consumer, would like to see as a successful TKL.

1. Yellow, silver, and black only.
2. Top mount, aluminum plate only
3. f12 (f13 will look odd on southpaw)
4. 1mm corner fillets; 12mm top, 5mm sides, 8mm bottom
5.    No knob, OLED on that spot you picked
6. stainless steel through weight (assuming you can do it since you have SSplate option)




thank you, I will keep these points in mind.  :thumb:
the Stainless Steel plate is actually not from the CNC factory I'm working with, but I will ask the CNC Factory about the weight.

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Work in progress
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 25 September 2021, 04:09:23 »
Hello,
I have closed the form, and based on survey results, I will proceed with the following layout:
- F13 F-row
- Led indicators (actually tied with "oled + rotary encoder" option but I will choose the "easier" option)


The next update will have renders, stay tuned!  ;D

Offline linell

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Work in progress
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 26 September 2021, 18:43:59 »
Hello,
I have closed the form, and based on survey results, I will proceed with the following layout:
- F13 F-row
- Led indicators (actually tied with "oled + rotary encoder" option but I will choose the "easier" option)
Show Image


The next update will have renders, stay tuned!  ;D
Can't wait to see this layout on a keyboard!

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Renders are up!
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 10:52:22 »
Hello,
The renders are up!  ;D
If you're interested in this board, please fill out this form: https://forms.gle/PQFcAeW6HUooLrrh9






Offline linell

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Renders are up!
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 11:25:34 »
please consider half plates

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 21 October 2021, 05:05:00 »
is there anyone else interests in this board?  ;D

I just placed my order for the prototype PCB.

please consider half plates

I will.  :thumb:



Offline Acidthefurry

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 09 December 2021, 14:58:46 »
would fn key where the right win key is at be possible?

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 09 December 2021, 15:09:05 »
would fn key where the right win key is at be possible?

Since it supports QMK and VIA, you can just remap the keys to be whatever key you would like.

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 09 December 2021, 18:31:03 »
better

1. internals
2. color sample
3. daughter board
4. orion indicator (change)

//
first group buy don't do 30-50
your store needs to be available
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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 10 December 2021, 03:36:00 »
would fn key where the right win key is at be possible?

yes, it's possible, you can change that key to any other key with QMK/VIA


first group buy don't do 30-50
your store needs to be available

I will certainly need to setup my store,
do you have suggestions on the quanity?
I think that's the "safe amount" of boards that I can delivery within a reasonable timeframe.

Offline linell

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype in progress
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 11 December 2021, 07:04:25 »
considering the fact that this is a pretty niche layout, I wouldn't expect many units to be produced

can't wait for protos :)

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 11 December 2021, 09:25:42 »
Hello,
I got an update ;D

The prototype is here
279767-0
more pics: https://imgur.com/a/t77AGlH

I'm a bit hesitant to show the prototype, its not good as I expected. :(

The case pieces fit a bit tightly, so I think I will adjust the bottom piece's dimension a bit (so they won't rub against each other)

I'm worry about the anodization job, which is not good, I guess I will switch to another anodization shop.

is there anythings I can do to improve the product? (maybe... some finishing process that can be done before anodization) any suggestions is greatly appreciated.
---
Even though there are a few issues, I want to proceed with the GB and see it through.

The price of the kit is: 250 USD + shipping

I think I need 1 to 2 weeks to setup the store then the GB may start.

Offline lach64

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 15 December 2021, 05:57:16 »
can we get some pictures of the internals

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 15 December 2021, 06:36:58 »
yay proto but oof that ano is... something
glad to see half plate  :thumb:
price point is nice but imma get shafted by shipping
consider 6063 alu for case and 5052 for plate

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 16 December 2021, 01:19:09 »
can we get some pictures of the internals

there are more pics here: https://imgur.com/a/t77AGlH

yay proto but oof that ano is... something
glad to see half plate  :thumb:
price point is nice but imma get shafted by shipping
consider 6063 alu for case and 5052 for plate

I did ask about Alu 6063, but the CNC shop seems... unenthusiastic  :( , I guess ordering materials with low quanity is troublesome for them,
so maybe things will get easier after my first GB.

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 17 December 2021, 02:51:40 »
Please consider using unified daughterboard like ai03.

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 22 December 2021, 07:53:34 »
Hi,
I'm having troubles with shipping rate,
anyone has any tips about how to (accurately) calculate the shipping rate?

I thought of going the "third party" route, I reached out to a local vendor but they rejected me, I guess they're busy.

is it good practice to charge the shipping fee later? (when the boards are ready to be shipped)

Please consider using unified daughterboard like ai03.

hi,
I did think of using ai03's daughterboard but I can't seem to find the right components, so I go with my own instead  :(

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 22 December 2021, 08:15:01 »
Hi,
I'm having troubles with shipping rate,
anyone has any tips about how to (accurately) calculate the shipping rate?

I thought of going the "third party" route, I reached out to a local vendor but they rejected me, I guess they're busy.

is it good practice to charge the shipping fee later? (when the boards are ready to be shipped)

Please consider using unified daughterboard like ai03.

hi,
I did think of using ai03's daughterboard but I can't seem to find the right components, so I go with my own instead  :(

a quick google search https://github.com/ai03-2725/Unified-Daughterboard

If something else is barring you from using the above link files for that universal component, I would highly suggest designing your own or engineering the case to also accept the unified DB for folks to install down the line thus reducing the chance for obsoletion

Offline linell

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 22 December 2021, 17:34:57 »
Hi,
I'm having troubles with shipping rate,
anyone has any tips about how to (accurately) calculate the shipping rate?

I thought of going the "third party" route, I reached out to a local vendor but they rejected me, I guess they're busy.

is it good practice to charge the shipping fee later? (when the boards are ready to be shipped)

Please consider using unified daughterboard like ai03.

hi,
I did think of using ai03's daughterboard but I can't seem to find the right components, so I go with my own instead  :(

a quick google search https://github.com/ai03-2725/Unified-Daughterboard

If something else is barring you from using the above link files for that universal component, I would highly suggest designing your own or engineering the case to also accept the unified DB for folks to install down the line thus reducing the chance for obsoletion
agreed :D
nonstandard stuff is a pain

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - Prototype is here!!!
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 23 December 2021, 02:20:30 »
If something else is barring you from using the above link files for that universal component, I would highly suggest designing your own or engineering the case to also accept the unified DB for folks to install down the line thus reducing the chance for obsoletion

Agree

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - GB starts January 10, 2022
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 03 January 2022, 10:12:24 »
Happy New Year!

280696-0

Hello everyone,
I would like to announce the details about the Group Buy

- GB Date: January 10th, 2022 to January 23rd, 2022 (a period of two weeks)
- Sale format: 30 ~ 50 units, FCFS (first come first serve)
- Price: 250 USD + shipping.
Shipping will be invoiced separately when the boards are complete.
Ships from Hanoi, Vietnam
- Fulfillment time (estimated): early April, 2022
« Last Edit: Mon, 03 January 2022, 22:09:40 by Tom_Kazansky »

Offline linell

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - GB starts January 10, 2022
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 03 January 2022, 23:00:33 »
yay an update
gonna pick one up
a discord server would be appreciated

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Re: [IC] FKS87 - Southpaw TKL - GB starts January 10, 2022
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 04 January 2022, 00:35:40 »
southpaw so lit

not sure if it was just an aesthetic choice but u could definitely do without a couple of those screws btw. glwic/gb!