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Title: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: MacGruber117 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 14:40:46
This is an interest check for GMK still gotta name it Wāpuro (thank you u/lovetree for the suggestion!). I wanted to throw this interest check out before I submit to the Massdrop keyset contest to get the word out a bit. I plan on developing this set further even if the keyset contest doesn't work out.

This set is based on a keyset found on Sony's 1987 PJ-100 Word Processor. I instantly wanted this set on my keeb as soon as I saw it. I've been trying to find time to work out a concept for about 5 months now, and the keyset contest helped to push me to get it done. Below are some pics of the inspiration set:

(https://i.imgur.com/ycPHfuX.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/RPwnfhM.jpg)


I had help from some great guys on Reddit, who translated all of the keys for me. You can find that post here if you're interested

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6841r4/help_can_anyone_help_translate_this_keyboard/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6841r4/help_can_anyone_help_translate_this_keyboard/)


And here is my first stab at the keyset...

(https://i.imgur.com/VMcGEMP.jpg)


Alphas are CP on CC
Mods are CP on N9

Both are classic GMK dolch colors. The green, yellow and orange colors will all be custom meaning the MOQ will be 250, but since I plan on running thru Massdrop this won't be an issue. This will most likely have to be split into 2 kits, with the base kit containing all the keys except for the bottom cluster of Japanese only keys, which will make up the second kit. This set is pretty complicated with the sublegends and the front printed text. How it will be manufactured is not completely clear to me right now. If they make new dyes for GMK Laser, this set could possibly all be double shot top legends, but it would all be one color legend. The most likely, which doesn't seem like a bad option to me, is that the white legends would be doubleshot and the sublegends and front text would be pad printed. Not ideal, but it allows for greater flexibility.

I'll post some layout images soon AND I need someone willing to render this set. I've reached out to a few people who said they can't do it because of the sublegends and front text. Let me know if you're up for the task!

Let me know what you think and if you have any suggests(Like for a name). Thanks!  :)


POSSIBLE LAYOUTS:

(https://i.imgur.com/iu5PZMj.png)
65%

(https://i.imgur.com/jFgIP2R.png)
TKL


VOTE FOR GMK Wāpuro IN GROUP D ON MASSDROP NOW!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2428/place-your-votes-in-the-keycap-set-design-contest (https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2428/place-your-votes-in-the-keycap-set-design-contest)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: xondat on Wed, 27 September 2017, 14:43:30
Kinda feels like Dolch with a tiny bit of Retro with a lot of sublegends for aesthetics (I especially like the green/yellow etc). I like it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 27 September 2017, 15:39:59
I have a feeling this would make for a beautiful keyset. I'm afraid it's a bit too "busy" for my tastes though, so I'll probably pass unless renders can convince me otherwise. Interested to see the progress on it though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 15:41:12
Kinda feels like Dolch with a tiny bit of Retro with a lot of sublegends for aesthetics (I especially like the green/yellow etc). I like it.

Yeah I love sublegends! Makes me wish GMK Azimuth would get produced.....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 16:14:51
Anyone have name ideas? I can't call it GMK Sony or anything like that and I think GMK PJ100 sounds weird
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: colgateam on Wed, 27 September 2017, 16:16:44
GMK Produce?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 16:53:15
GMK Produce?

That makes me think of vegetables haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: poolside on Wed, 27 September 2017, 16:55:39
From the labels shown on the device:
- PWP (Personal Word Processor)
- Scope (because the green screen with the white rulers looks a bit like that of an oscilloscope)
- Multifont (the caps have both english and japanese legends)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: lunr on Wed, 27 September 2017, 17:09:55
Oooh I like. Hope this gets off.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Wed, 27 September 2017, 17:34:23
From the labels shown on the device:
- PWP (Personal Word Processor)
- Scope (because the green screen with the white rulers looks a bit like that of an oscilloscope)
- Multifont (the caps have both english and japanese legends)

GMK Word Processor?
GMK Replica?
GMK RetroRep?
GMK JapanRetro?
GMK WordPro?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 27 September 2017, 17:50:42
GMK Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: lovetree on Wed, 27 September 2017, 20:44:52
...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Kafka on Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:08:01
Thats a lot of pad printing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:08:27
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: get_weird on Wed, 27 September 2017, 22:59:39
This looks awesome, like a business version of GMK Laser.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 06:36:41
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

Do you know if the Cyrillic legends on GMK Yuri were pad printed?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: ok2094 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 07:41:09
This is beautiful, probably my endgame.
Please make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:05:46
This is beautiful, probably my endgame.
Please make it happen.

Just make sure to vote in the Massdrop keyset design contest when it opens!  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: ullr on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:10:17
You know usually I go in for modern stuff, but this is one classic inspired set I really like
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:25:48
Do you know if the Cyrillic legends on GMK Yuri were pad printed?

Doubleshot homie.

That said, I really like this set and have no real problem with pad-printing - so long as it looks good, the fading is not that a big deal for me at all as I don't plan to use it all day every day. It's a novelty.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:39:18
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:46:42
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:48:50
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)

i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 09:01:33
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)


i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture

And my spacebar is shiny from using it everyday, but I still love my all of my GMK sets. It's necessary to bring this set to live so that's why I'm using it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: loar on Thu, 28 September 2017, 09:23:22
Beautiful set!

It would be perfect with a few R4 1.5 japanese mods ( and maybe the "yes" and "no" keys  :) ).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:21:11
Beautiful set!

It would be perfect with a few R4 1.5 japanese mods ( and maybe the "yes" and "no" keys  :) ).

Haha you like the YES/NO keys? They make me think of grab bag extras. I'll definitely look at more 1.5u mods
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Yethuo on Thu, 28 September 2017, 15:39:55
this looks great! interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: ullr on Thu, 28 September 2017, 18:36:30
What do you know about the original device? Are there mechanical switches in there?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:03:04
What do you know about the original device? Are there mechanical switches in there?

I don't know much about it. Here is a website with some info

http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/en/computer/word/0045.html
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 06:24:23
I need to submit to Massdrop today, so I have to have a name. After researching the original inspiration further, I've decided to name this set GMK Wāpuro. This name is taken from the tagline 初めて&唯一の私のワープロ (My first and only word processor)

Edit: I swear someone suggested this name already, but I don't see the comment anymore so I can't give them credit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro
Post by: midnight2903 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 08:30:09
It looks abit too similar to others minus the jap characters.
Maybe do only jap characters? Tho I don't think there's tooling for that....
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 29 September 2017, 08:45:38
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)


i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture

While I agree that the pad printing will fade, it might depend on the set.  I bought a used GMK Cyrillic set and after heavy use of my own on my main keyboard for over a year I only started to notice fading.

(https://i.imgur.com/APmUL7v.jpg)

And the faded keys

(https://i.imgur.com/FBwjt0A.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: lovetree on Fri, 29 September 2017, 08:48:57
I need to submit to Massdrop today, so I have to have a name. After researching the original inspiration further, I've decided to name this set GMK Wāpuro. This name is taken from the tagline 初めて&唯一の私のワープロ (My first and only word processor)

Edit: I swear someone suggested this name already, but I don't see the comment anymore so I can't give them credit

Actually, it's me who suggested the name for this kit.
Because there were no reply to my suggestion, I thought the Japanese word was not in your taste, so it was ignored.
Thought I'd better delete the reply totally but couldn't find the delete but modify.
There's currently written " ... " only. Sorry for making you confused.  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:00:07
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)


i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture

While I agree that the pad printing will fade, it might depend on the set.  I bought a used GMK Cyrillic set and after heavy use of my own on my main keyboard for over a year I only started to notice fading.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/APmUL7v.jpg)


And the faded keys

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FBwjt0A.jpg)


Seems like they really messed up the S key on that set, its the exact same fading as Puddsy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: MacGruber117 on Fri, 29 September 2017, 09:05:20
I need to submit to Massdrop today, so I have to have a name. After researching the original inspiration further, I've decided to name this set GMK Wāpuro. This name is taken from the tagline 初めて&唯一の私のワープロ (My first and only word processor)

Edit: I swear someone suggested this name already, but I don't see the comment anymore so I can't give them credit

Actually, it's me who suggested the name for this kit.
Because there were no reply to my suggestion, I thought the Japanese word was not in your taste, so it was ignored.
Thought I'd better delete the reply totally but couldn't find the delete but modify.
There's currently written " ... " only. Sorry for making you confused.  :(

Sorry I didn't mean to ignore you! Well thank you for the suggestion, you will be officially credited at the top of the thread  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 September 2017, 10:55:08
Do you know if the Cyrillic legends on GMK Yuri were pad printed?

Doubleshot homie.

That said, I really like this set and have no real problem with pad-printing - so long as it looks good, the fading is not that a big deal for me at all as I don't plan to use it all day every day. It's a novelty.

An utilitarian minded here. Getting a set for it looks only does not fit the bill. Too much pad printing does not make much sense, unless this is just a set to look at.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 29 September 2017, 11:02:55
An utilitarian minded here. Getting a set for it looks only does not fit the bill. Too much pad printing does not make much sense, unless this is just a set to look at.

Absolutely - I was just speaking for myself, I have a lot of sets to swap between so pad printing wouldn't be that big a deal for a set like this but I can for sure see why it would be for most everyone else.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 29 September 2017, 13:06:56
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)


i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture

While I agree that the pad printing will fade, it might depend on the set.  I bought a used GMK Cyrillic set and after heavy use of my own on my main keyboard for over a year I only started to notice fading.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/APmUL7v.jpg)


And the faded keys

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FBwjt0A.jpg)


Seems like they really messed up the S key on that set, its the exact same fading as Puddsy

possible it's the same set, considering i sold it on MM a few months ago and it might've made the rounds
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Name in Progress
Post by: Waateva on Fri, 29 September 2017, 13:10:49
Thats a lot of pad printing.

yeah

looks like expensive, fade-prone dolch

I don't think it will be more expensive than any other GMK set once it hits Massdrop. I haven't seen anyone complaining about GMK Royal Alpha fading yet either.

because people just use it for pictures

GMKs pad printing is notoriously low quality

Do you have any examples?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/yw41U0i.jpg)


i used this set for like 3 hours total

check the fading on the s key

the others around WASD were starting to go too, but doesn't show up as well in this picture

While I agree that the pad printing will fade, it might depend on the set.  I bought a used GMK Cyrillic set and after heavy use of my own on my main keyboard for over a year I only started to notice fading.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/APmUL7v.jpg)


And the faded keys

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FBwjt0A.jpg)


Seems like they really messed up the S key on that set, its the exact same fading as Puddsy

possible it's the same set, considering i sold it on MM a few months ago and it might've made the rounds

Nah, I traded someone for the set in late-spring of 2016 and used it up until earlier this year.  Might just be a common issue on the set though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro
Post by: lunr on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:01:49
Spacebar kit for the Japanese bottom kit? Kinda weird with just one space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro
Post by: Trente on Fri, 29 September 2017, 17:50:32
This looks soooo awesome
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 29 September 2017, 18:35:47
just found this. i'm dtf on this and azimuth. 2018, year of the sublegends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro
Post by: ideus on Fri, 29 September 2017, 18:47:11
just found this. i'm dtf on this and azimuth. 2018, year of the sublegends

I was interested in Azimuth before; however, I am not anymore. A worn off legend in the future does not go well with an expensive set of plastic key caps. I can tolerate it on cheap stock boards, but not on this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:14:48
Bumping because Massdrop voting has begun

Vote for GMK Wāpuro in Group D!!!!

https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2428/place-your-votes-in-the-keycap-set-design-contest
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: MacGruber117 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:37:05
Render by Oblotzky to be posted tomorrow!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: txclack on Thu, 05 October 2017, 17:38:51
Easily a contender for one of my favorite sets out of all the Groups.  Well done!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 06 October 2017, 00:32:15
Saw your set in there.  Nice work, sir.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 06 October 2017, 03:28:24
I personally would prefer the mods in just Japanese, like the example. It's a nice set, though, with a lot of the feeling of the original.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: ok2094 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 03:40:03
Aww, Wapuro was my favorite, but it didn't get into the finals.
Will there be any other attempts to make this set reality?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: MacGruber117 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 05:29:03
Aww, Wapuro was my favorite, but it didn't get into the finals.
Will there be any other attempts to make this set reality?
Yes, definitely! I'm still waiting on a render, and I'll be starting a new thread in the interest checks once I have it

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: ok2094 on Mon, 30 October 2017, 02:15:16
Aww, Wapuro was my favorite, but it didn't get into the finals.
Will there be any other attempts to make this set reality?
Yes, definitely! I'm still waiting on a render, and I'll be starting a new thread in the interest checks once I have it

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Any update?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:53:39
Looks like voting is closed? I like this set quite a bit and would love to see it be made
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Wāpuro (VOTE FOR ME IN GROUP D!)
Post by: MacGruber117 on Tue, 03 April 2018, 11:48:09
Aww, Wapuro was my favorite, but it didn't get into the finals.
Will there be any other attempts to make this set reality?
Yes, definitely! I'm still waiting on a render, and I'll be starting a new thread in the interest checks once I have it

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Any update?

Yes https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95003.0