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Offline macguy80

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PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 02:27:02 »
Does such a thing even exist? I love the look of the KUL ES-87, but I very much prefer PBT over ABS whenever possible.

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Re: PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 02:42:41 »
Any reason you don't want the space bar?

The KUL looks like a standard layout, so pretty much any standard PBT set should fit.
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Re: PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 02:51:39 »
Thanks, rowdy!

Well, on all of Apple's vintage Mac keyboards, (one of which I am typing upon now) the keycaps are all PBT *except* for the space bars, which are ABS and yellow with the rest of the case. I had assumed there was some reason that Apple made that decision, such as more limited availability. So it's not that I wouldn't want a PBT space bar, but I was prepared to do without if needed.

And now as I type this, I realize how foolish a hypothesis that is, since my Topre Realforce is 100% PBT... :-[

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Re: PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:11:16 »
RealForce also has ABS space bar.

In days of old PBT was notoriously difficult to mold keycaps from, and larger keycaps used to warp, especially the space bar.

Thus most PBT sets have an ABS space bar as ABS does not warp anywhere near as much.

But these days companies seem to have resolved the problems, and now most PBT sets do include PBT space bars.
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Re: PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 03:36:46 »
Ah yes, THAT was it! Thanks for refreshing my memory! Great to know!

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Re: PBT Full set (minus spacebar) for KUL ES-87?
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 09 June 2015, 14:19:22 »
There are two different group buys right now for PBT keycaps in Cherry Profile. Check them out! Prices are good but most are blank. There is a black on black dye sub set I have my eyes on from Ivan!
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