Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Vote for Kits & Quantities!

[bugfix]

Yeah, us Germans can be a little too direct for our Anglo-Saxon friends at times...

[7bit_vote]

Orange WASD keys and the novelty key are pretty similar but not exact - the WASD set is a bit brighter.  I'll post pics tomorrow.

So...what's happening with Signature doing the Awesome and Reddit Look Of Disapproval set?   I keep getting PMs asking where to get that key.

As far as I know, we need vector graphics of the Awesome face.
Had not yet a responcse from SP about the format.

Reddit Look Of Disapproval is the a with dots key, right?

[bugfix]

Reddit Look Of Disapproval is the a with dots key, right?

Yes.

[sixty]

Vector file of awesome face has been around for quite a while (no surprise, since its very easy to trace to begin with).

Here is one (unchecked):

http://janek2012.deviantart.com/art/Awesome-Face-HQ-Vector-PSD-167769368?q=1&qo=1

Should be easy to modify it according to our needs (single color)

[7bit]

Vector file of awesome face has been around for quite a while (no surprise, since its very easy to trace to begin with).

Here is one (unchecked):

http://janek2012.deviantart.com/art/Awesome-Face-HQ-Vector-PSD-167769368?q=1&qo=1

Should be easy to modify it according to our needs (single color)

Great!

So what you're waiting for?

Start your work!

[sixty]

Great!

So what you're waiting for?

Start your work!

I'm still at the office right now. I'll go hunt for a machine that has Illustrator on it. Otherwise I'll see if I can do it at home, if no one else does the needed single color modification by then.

[sixty]

Done.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome.zip

Its slightly different compared to ripster's version (see the tongue), since I just based it on the original vector file. If the modded(?) ripster tongue is required, someone who actually knows what they are doing in a vector program should fix that.

[7bit]

Done.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome.zip

Its slightly different compared to ripster's version (see the tongue), since I just based it on the original vector file. If the modded(?) ripster tongue is required, someone who actually knows what they are doing in a vector program should fix that.

Done!






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I just did not care about an SVG-editing software,
just edited the source-code.

Was not much work to find the right path and tweak it su that the tounge is right.

[bugfix]

Good job!

Here the .ai file in case it is still needed.


http://filesmelt.com/dl/awesomeface.ai

[sixty]

Done!

I just did not care about an SVG-editing software,
just edited the source-code.

Was not much work to find the right path and tweak it su that the tounge is right.

This is not like ripster's version either though. Ripster's variant has the tongue "separated" from the base outline. Personally I prefer mine or your version though.

[7bit]

This is not like ripster's version either though. Ripster's variant has the tongue "separated" from the base outline. Personally I prefer mine or your version though.

If you provide me the colored version in SVG-format, I can make the inside of the mouth black and the tounge yellow.

[sixty]

Update: Maybe you don't need to play around with it. I just tried to nudge the tongue up a bit, this results in similar results as in ripster's first draft. So... I think its time for another poll on which awesome face we go with for the key?

We now have:

A: Converted straight from the vector source file. Color adjustments made to get it down to one color.


B: Based on the above, but with tongue/mouth adjusted by 7bit


C: Based on ripster's original draft, tongue(?) is nudged away from the base outline.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome2.svg

My personal favourite clearly is B. Its the most recognizable and least detailed one. This should work out fine on double shot molding if they can mold freaking telephone symbols even.

[bugfix]

B looks best.

[7bit]

B looks best.

I just figured out how to use inkscape to convert a PNG to SVG but inkscape is a bit crappy. Can't it be as comfortable as GIMP???

Sixty: What did you use to get the SVG file?

[bugfix]

I suppose he used Illustrator.

Also what were you trying to convert to svg?

[7bit]

I suppose he used Illustrator.

Also what were you trying to convert to svg?

Sixty provided a link to a PNG-file. I would can't figure out how to convert the PNG properly (ie with round curves) to SVG using inkscape and wondered how sixty managed it.

[bugfix]

Sixty provided a link to a PNG-file. I would can't figure out how to convert the PNG properly (ie with round curves) to SVG using inkscape and wondered how sixty managed it.

I would have traced it in Illustrator and then saved it as svg, but then again I'm a noob.

[7bit]

B looks best.

That's hilarious about the crooked tongue.  Whatever JPG file I found had the same crooked tongue.  I just gave it a Photoshop spray and assumed the artist was having a bad day.
...

Wait a second!

You gave me the impression, that you where the artist!

[7bit]

I would have traced it in Illustrator and then saved it as svg, but then again I'm a noob.

IgiTt!!!!!1!!!1!!

Illustrator is not free software!!!

But does not matter anyway.

Sixty is pleased with his version corrected by me using Emacs, Ripster loves it and bugfix loves it too!

Everybody is pleased.

Problem solved.

So we can go to the next point.

[Twitchy]

Update: Maybe you don't need to play around with it. I just tried to nudge the tongue up a bit, this results in similar results as in ripster's first draft. So... I think its time for another poll on which awesome face we go with for the key?

We now have:

Show Image

A: Converted straight from the vector source file. Color adjustments made to get it down to one color.

Show Image

B: Based on the above, but with tongue/mouth adjusted by 7bit

Show Image

C: Based on ripster's original draft, tongue(?) is nudged away from the base outline.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome2.svg

My personal favourite clearly is B. Its the most recognizable and least detailed one. This should work out fine on double shot molding if they can mold freaking telephone symbols even.

One subtle difference between these and the image in the OP:

[sixty]

One subtle difference between these and the image in the OP:

Show Image

How the hell did we all overlook this?! Gonna fix it on the B file and then reupload.

Edit: all  but 7bit, who mentioned it after draft 1, which I somehow overlooked.

[7bit_vote]

...
But does not matter anyway.

Sixty is pleased with his version corrected by me using Emacs, Ripster loves it and bugfix loves it too!

Everybody is pleased.

Problem solved.

So we can go to the next point.

Sorry that I've got to interrupt you, 7bit:

The artwork for Awesome with yellow background is OK, but it does not work out for the red version!

It is not possible to do  the Aweesome face from one and the same SVG in both color-versions!



The files above still show the old version, but illustrate the problem perfectly.
Please notice that the yellow version has a black frame, while the red version has no frame at all!

[sixty]

We are good now, right?

Yellow:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome_inverted_with_frame.svg

Red:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/AWESOME_ABOUT_THE_200TH_FKING_DRAFT_FIXED_FINAL_PROPER_PLZ.svg

Edit: Updated again. THIS is it, riiiiight?

[7bit]

We are good now, right?

Show Image

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome_inverted_with_frame.svg

Show Image

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8273042/awesome_inverted_noframe.svg

Edit: No we are not, second file rendered with the wrong inversed section again. About to go crazy over this stuff.

No.

Please wait a minute or two,
I will upload an image which shows what we need....

[sixty]

No.

Please wait a minute or two,
I will upload an image which shows what we need....

[UPLOADING IMAGE (10% done) Please be patient!]

Patience is a word unknown to me. I updated my previous post. That should be it.

[7bit]

Patience is a word unknown to me. I updated my previous post. That should be it.

LOL!

The white stuff is what will be inserted into the red key, so the SVG must look like this above^^^^.

[sixty]

LOL!

The white stuff is what will be inserted into the red key, so the SVG must look like this above^^^^.

Your attachment is not working for me. I just looked at my updated post again, and I'm confident that is what we need for the red key?!

[bugfix]

I'm confident that is what we need for the red key?!

Seems correct.

[Twitchy]

Yes you can be confident.

[7bit]

Seems correct.

Sorry, my background is grey. Just realizing it was a bad idea to make transparent PNG in black or white.

Sorry for the red being off a bit. We need the SVG to cover the white stuff in that image above.

[sixty]

Sixty is a light-theme user.

Sorry, my background is grey. Just realizing it was a bad idea to make transparent PNG in black or white.

Show Image

Sorry for the red being off a bit. We need the SVG to cover the white stuff in that image above.

I use the dark theme actually! I think the PNG in black works out fine on both themes.

Your attachment still does not load for me.

Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

[7bit]

I use the dark theme actually! I think the PNG in black works out fine on both themes.

Your attachment still does not load for me.

I can see my graphic through your quote. Uploaded a 2nd time, hope they are visible now.

EDIT: OK, OK, I can't see them as well.

If it does not work now, I give it up:

[sixty]

I can see my graphic through your quote. Uploaded a 2nd time, hope they are visible now.

EDIT: OK, OK, I can't see them as well.

If it does not work now, I give it up:

Show Image

Show Image

Show Image

Works now. Yeah. In this case my file should be correct for both yellow and red now.

[7bit]

Works now. Yeah. In this case my file should be correct for both yellow and red now.

[sixty]

Show Image

Yeah, that is exactly what my file does. So what is wrong?

[7bit]

Yeah, that is exactly what my file does. So what is wrong?

You still don't get it!

If you send these 2 files to SP, we will end up in an awesome Awesome black on yellow face, but will also end up with an ugly Awesome Monkey white on red face as well:



This is what we already have for the yellow face:


And this is what we need to get the Awesome red face:


The SVG must cover the black stuff. I can provide you with a larger PNG, but failed to make the SVG. (sorry)

[sixty]

You are looking at very outdated files, which explains the entire confusion. As I wrote 2 times before I updated my initial post about an hour ago and it was confirmed by several posters after to be correct. That is why I was very confused when you still said it was wrong!



Edit: Also in my initial (and updated post) you have to remove the extra space in the URL. For some reason the geekhack forum inserts it there upon submission, no matter how I format the URL.

[7bit]

Sorry for the confusion.

You said:

Works now. Yeah. In this case my file should be correct for both yellow and red now.

Which is not true, since we needed 2 different files.

Thanks for your work!

[7bit_vote]

OK, back on topic now:

Numeric kit


Please tell me if you need some extra keys, or if you are pleased with this.

Send pre-orders to 7bit_vote.
Send requests to 7bit

[7bit_vote]

Function kit


Please tell me if you need some extras included!

Send pre-orders to 7bit_vote.
Send requests to 7bit.

[7bit_vote]

NEW!

POS kit


Please tell me if you need some extras included!

Send pre-orders to 7bit_vote.
Send requests to 7bit.

[Minskleip]

These diagrams sure look nice. I can feel my wallet shrinking already.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

I'm not sure if they have those symbols in stock. Would be easier to do these in text:

F1 LOUD
F2 LOUDER
F3 LOUDEST
F4 PLAY/PAUSE
F5 STOP
F6 PREV TRACK
F7 NEXT TRACK

Otherwise, take 25 sets and pay 3.85 per key.

In the function kit exist already keys for that purpose:
VOLUME UP, VOLUME DOWN, MUTE, NEXT, PREV, STOP, PLAY etc.

PAUSE is part of the standard kit.

I'm guessing it would be something like from the previous Mo1 by white rice, where the F1 is on top and the loud is on the bottom at the side of the cap.

If possible try and see if they have the symbols for that; but if they don't then the wordings should be fine i guess.


Would it be possible for the F1 e.g. be aligned left like previous Mo ?





In the first post, all it said function kit had was

Function kit

    * F13-F24 (matching colors, ie F13-F16, F21-F24 in grey, F17-F20 in black)
    * F1-F4, F9-F12 (in black)
    * CUT, COPY, PASTE, UNDO, REDO, HELP, RESET (in black)
    * bottom-row: BEGIN, END, PRIOR, NEXT, DELETE, RESET (in black)
    * plus some other keys (all in black)

I don't really need all that. Just the Loud to next track ones you mentioned.



PS: did SP get back to you whether they can do those window slits in the doubleshot keys for say capslock, numlock, scroll lock, f9,f10,f11 ?

[Half-Saint]

Is there a kit compatible with Cherry G80-1800 without windows keys (Large CTRL, ALT)?

[7bit]

Is there a kit compatible with Cherry G80-1800 without windows keys (Large CTRL, ALT)?

1 1/2-sized Modifier kit

    * CONTROL, ALT, SUPER, HYPER, META and CAPS LOCK
      (1.5 sized keys for ancient keyboards)
    * additional modifier keys could be added.

Plus you will need a special spacebar which is not yet confirmed if SP can make it.

[Half-Saint]

Red on black ESC, TAB, CTRL, ALT, SHIFT, RETURN, BACKSPACE...

[7bit]

Red on black ESC, TAB, CTRL, ALT, SHIFT, RETURN, BACKSPACE...

[SIZE=12]?[/SIZE]

[bugfix]

Perhaps an idea for round 4...

[7bit]

...
PS: did SP get back to you whether they can do those window slits in the doubleshot keys for say capslock, numlock, scroll lock, f9,f10,f11 ?

I got a message from SP:

The good news is:
Yes, they can make keys with transparent sections.

The bad news is:
No, it can't be the Cherry-style window, and ...

If they have got a window:
Nope, they can't do them double shot, because ...

It would be tripple shot in fact, which SP had not yet invented. :-(

There are 2 options:
- Pad-printing the text (costly, bad quality)
- Window only.

The window could be any simple shape like a circle, square, rectangle and triangle.

3 of these symbols (circle, square, triangle) are very classic. These appeared on the legendary Space Cadet keyboard and also on the later Symbolics keyboards.

I will make a graphic of the Ducky layout with those key caps.

I still wait for the prices by the way....
.................................
... $3.85 each! (if produced 25, as always)

OK, forget it with the Symbolics-like shapes, here is a pic I just received (hope it is allowed to post here; did not ask)



As you can see, no Cherry-style window.

What would come closest, would be an upright rectangle at the bottom of the key-top (not shown here).

What a shame rally, they can't do them with double shot labels.

[7bit]

There is such a thing as triple/quadruple shot keys.  I stuck a link in the "All About Keys" wiki.  Probably from Taiwan though.

I own a typewriter (brother CE-650) with tripple shot keys plus windows in some keys (Cherry double shots look thin against these, BTW).

But as long as we did not find another source (would be pleased to find one here in Germany or at least somewhere in Europe), we have to stick to SP.

There are 4 options:
- Blanks with each key differently shaped window.
- Pad printing on top with somehow shaped window.
- Pad printing on the front with somehow shaped window.
- Regular double shots with home made hole in the front.

Now you GHers (mainly Moogle) may decide!