[GB][CLOSED] LeandreN Round 4, 60% kits, HHKB and winkeyless plates

[TalkingTree]

This case from Massdrop might be a good fit for this GB: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lambo-60-anodized-aluminum-case

To my understanding this would fit great with what is offered here?

It would.
It's a very nice case. Too bad shipping and customs would shred my wallet to pieces.

[Bumbibear]

This case from Massdrop might be a good fit for this GB: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lambo-60-anodized-aluminum-case

To my understanding this would fit great with what is offered here?

It would.
It's a very nice case. Too bad shipping and customs would shred my wallet to pieces.

Yeah I know, not much better luck to Sweden either... you won't happen to know any other aluminum cases available that isn't wallet shredding ?

[TalkingTree]

you won't happen to know any other aluminum cases available that isn't wallet shredding ?

Aluminum is always harsh on the wallet but you try your luck with Pexon or our beloved China.

[Bumbibear]

you won't happen to know any other aluminum cases available that isn't wallet shredding ?

Aluminum is always harsh on the wallet but you try your luck with Pexon or our beloved China.

Well.. This one from Ali seems really interesting since it's available in black..

How is it to order from Ali ? reliable? any unexpected fees or customs ?

[pix3l_fodder]

I will have to pull out if I pay via SEPA, for us UK folk it costs an extra €14 on top, for a single plate thats to much

[LeandreN]

Paypal will still be an option

[TalkingTree]

How is it to order from Ali ? reliable? any unexpected fees or customs ?

Good, if you have patience. It usually takes three weeks for me, including custom clearance.
Sellers are willing to declare goods with lower values, so you usually don't pay any customs fees.

[soilheart]

you won't happen to know any other aluminum cases available that isn't wallet shredding ?

Aluminum is always harsh on the wallet but you try your luck with Pexon or our beloved China.

I think MechSupply (UKKeycaps) did a group buy of the last one a while ago, looks very similar at least.

EDIT: What I mean, is that perhaps UKKeycaps got some extras. So you could check with them first, as they seem to based out of UK too.

[LeandreN]

I might be able to get my hands on these



For about 80$ shipped to me, so it is probably cheaper on TaoBao. This will not be included in the GB this time.

I want to do a similar case in Carbon Fibre or Brass to see how it works out, but I'll have to see how much money is left after the GB.

[Kalp1]

One dumb question, is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

I've found some 1206 (3227) RGB LED on Ali, but they aren't 1206 (3516) available on GON's store :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-SMD-LED-1206-3227-Common-Anode-RGB-Tricolor-Ultra-Bright-Chip-Light-Emitting-Diode-LED/32602322649.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10005_10006_10021_10003_10004_10022_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_-1&btsid=0b2f807f-288b-4ac4-8b4e-c375bd4997b9

[MMjacksN]

A few more questions:

Does the plate support plate mounted switches? And what about stabilizers?

Is the plate made for switch top removal?

[TalkingTree]

Does the plate support plate mounted switches?

Either plate and PCB mounted.

And what about stabilizers?

Cherry PCB mounted only.

Is the plate made for switch top removal?

Yes.

[LeandreN]

Shipping this week sometime to me.

[Liocer]

Very nice. Want one of those hhkb ones

[Bumbibear]

How is it to order from Ali ? reliable? any unexpected fees or customs ?

Good, if you have patience. It usually takes three weeks for me, including custom clearance.
Sellers are willing to declare goods with lower values, so you usually don't pay any customs fees.

Thank you very much for your answers TalkingTree appreciate it!

you won't happen to know any other aluminum cases available that isn't wallet shredding ?

Aluminum is always harsh on the wallet but you try your luck with Pexon or our beloved China.

I think MechSupply (UKKeycaps) did a group buy of the last one a while ago, looks very similar at least.

EDIT: What I mean, is that perhaps UKKeycaps got some extras. So you could check with them first, as they seem to based out of UK too.

Alright I'll hope that they have some leftovers perhaps Thank you for the information.

[TalkingTree]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

[TalkingTree]

How is it to order from Ali ? reliable? any unexpected fees or customs ?

Good, if you have patience. It usually takes three weeks for me, including custom clearance.
Sellers are willing to declare goods with lower values, so you usually don't pay any customs fees.

Thank you very much for your answers TalkingTree appreciate it!

My pleasure good sir.

[vegs]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

Ahh, that would be my dream layout.

[GoatMaster]

Will there also normal (60% winkey) Plates available?

[soilheart]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

Ahh, that would be my dream layout.

I haven't thought about it before actually, But I'm inclined to agree that it would be an awesome layout, best HHKB/ISO compromise i can think of.

[TalkingTree]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

Ahh, that would be my dream layout.

I haven't thought about it before actually, But I'm inclined to agree that it would be an awesome layout, best HHKB/ISO compromise i can think of.

Yep, 60% keyboard with extra keys in strategical spots.

[ideus]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

Ahh, that would be my dream layout.

I haven't thought about it before actually, But I'm inclined to agree that it would be an awesome layout, best HHKB/ISO compromise i can think of.

Yep, 60% keyboard with extra keys in strategical spots.

It is true that the ISO layout has a couple more one unit keys; but, the question is if those are really functional or if they were included just out of need, while I can use both, because I write in Spanish, as well, I can use US-International with no problems, and even some advantages, the left shift is larger than in ISO, the last being almost unusable, and to use the ISO enter you right hand should move out of the home row, while the ANSI enter can be reached with your pinky.

[TalkingTree]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

Ahh, that would be my dream layout.

I haven't thought about it before actually, But I'm inclined to agree that it would be an awesome layout, best HHKB/ISO compromise i can think of.

Yep, 60% keyboard with extra keys in strategical spots.

It is true that the ISO layout has a couple more one unit keys; but, the question is if those are really functional or if they were included just out of need, while I can use both, because I write in Spanish, as well, I can use US-International with no problems, and even some advantages, the left shift is larger than in ISO, the last being almost unusable, and to use the ISO enter you right hand should move out of the home row, while the ANSI enter can be reached with your pinky.

I can reach the both enter keys with the pinky but I do prefer the ANSI enter because I can map the pipe to backslash, which is extremely handy. As for the ISO left shift, I'm used to it and I do prefer it because the ISO key to its right is for the angled brackets in my native layout; a key I do use.

[soilheart]

It is true that the ISO layout has a couple more one unit keys; but, the question is if those are really functional or if they were included just out of need, while I can use both, because I write in Spanish, as well, I can use US-International with no problems, and even some advantages, the left shift is larger than in ISO, the last being almost unusable, and to use the ISO enter you right hand should move out of the home row, while the ANSI enter can be reached with your pinky.

I can reach the both enter keys with the pinky but I do prefer the ANSI enter because I can map the pipe to backslash, which is extremely handy. As for the ISO left shift, I'm used to it and I do prefer it because the ISO key to its right is for the angled brackets in my native layout; a key I do use.

Same here, ISO us only one key more than an ANSI (the one besides the short shift), and HHKB does have an extra key from splitting the 2U backspace, but that would move gt/lt/pipe to the other corner of the keyboard, and I do use that key rather often.

(ISO enter isn't an issue for me either, as I'm using my own touch typing variant =P)

[LeandreN]

Let me know if you have any questions.

TLDR: this will not cost you anything more. just good news.

[LeandreN]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

I thought about offering a ISO HHKB plate, but I don't think there is enough interest. An HHKB plate with ISO shift cutouts instead of ANSI shift cutouts will not be offered.

I might look into having it added to the ANSI design since we are using PCB mounted stabilisers anywa, however, i really want to minimize the cutout on these plates.

[ideus]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

I thought about offering a ISO HHKB plate, but I don't think there is enough interest. An HHKB plate with ISO shift cutouts instead of ANSI shift cutouts will not be offered.

I might look into having it added to the ANSI design since we are using PCB mounted stabilisers anywa, however, i really want to minimize the cutout on these plates.

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

[LeandreN]

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Shipping this week sometime to me.

So HHKB has no ISO Left shift? Pity.

I thought about offering a ISO HHKB plate, but I don't think there is enough interest. An HHKB plate with ISO shift cutouts instead of ANSI shift cutouts will not be offered.

I might look into having it added to the ANSI design since we are using PCB mounted stabilisers anywa, however, i really want to minimize the cutout on these plates.

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I'll will notify all of you if i decide to add it.

[rotciveel]

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:) Let me know if you have any questions.

TLDR: this will not cost you anything more. just good news.

Is this going to be on the order form or am I missing something?

Also, news on white plate? :)

[TalkingTree]

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I do agree with ideus. An extra cutout for split left shift won't bother any ANSI user but would make a lot of ISOers happy.

[LeandreN]

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I do agree with ideus. An extra cutout for split left shift won't bother any ANSI user but would make a lot of ISOers happy.

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

[LeandreN]

Also, news on white plate?

90% sure there will be a white Universal60 plate.

[TalkingTree]

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

Not sure, after all the short right shift is a distinguishable feature of the HHKB. Maybe you should. I don't think it's so risky to go untested.

[rotciveel]

Also, news on white plate?

90% sure there will be a white Universal60 plate.

Awesome, but not for HHKB?

[LeandreN]

Also, news on white plate?

90% sure there will be a white Universal60 plate.

Awesome, but not for HHKB?

I have to limit colours on the proprietary plates. Sorry. Only on universal60.

[rotciveel]

Also, news on white plate?

90% sure there will be a white Universal60 plate.

Awesome, but not for HHKB?

I have to limit colours on the proprietary plates. Sorry. Only on universal60.

Gotcha, totally understandable! Thanks

[LeandreN]

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

Not sure, after all the short right shift is a distinguishable feature of the HHKB. Maybe you should. I don't think it's so risky to go untested.

I'll probably add it to both plates and verify the design with JD.

[TalkingTree]

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

Not sure, after all the short right shift is a distinguishable feature of the HHKB. Maybe you should. I don't think it's so risky to go untested.

I'll probably add it to both plates and verify the design with JD.

Looking forward to it.

[ideus]

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I do agree with ideus. An extra cutout for split left shift won't bother any ANSI user but would make a lot of ISOers happy.

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

If you add the versatility of ISO plus splitted or full right shift to the HHKB plate it will be unique; as far as I know, it would be the only one with all those options, plus the cut outs to open the switches. It would rock.

[LeandreN]

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I do agree with ideus. An extra cutout for split left shift won't bother any ANSI user but would make a lot of ISOers happy.

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

If you add the versatility of ISO plus splitted or full right shift to the HHKB plate it will be unique; as far as I know, it would be the only one with all those options, plus the cut outs to open the switches. It would rock.

Working on it.

[ideus]

It would be great if you get it added to the ANSI HHKB plate, that would make it a very versatile plate, no one can let it to pass.

I do agree with ideus. An extra cutout for split left shift won't bother any ANSI user but would make a lot of ISOers happy.

Should just add support for 2.75u shift also then? The problem is that i can't order another set of samples, so i have to trust pure designs.

If you add the versatility of ISO plus splitted or full right shift to the HHKB plate it will be unique; as far as I know, it would be the only one with all those options, plus the cut outs to open the switches. It would rock.

Working on it.

Awesome!

[kaeeeede]

So when is the official start to the group buy? Or is it already going on?

Sorry, still pretty new to this whole mechanical keyboard group buy game.

[spanyam]

So when is the official start to the group buy? Or is it already going on?

Sorry, still pretty new to this whole mechanical keyboard group buy game.

Right now, LeandreN is both gathering interest and getting the samples ready for the group buy. It's in a pre-groupbuy state, and orders will open once things are ready.

[LeandreN]

Samples are sent. They will arrive next week.

[Kalp1]

One dumb question, is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

I've found some 1206 (3227) RGB LED on Ali, but they aren't 1206 (3516) available on GON's store :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-SMD-LED-1206-3227-Common-Anode-RGB-Tricolor-Ultra-Bright-Chip-Light-Emitting-Diode-LED/32602322649.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10005_10006_10021_10003_10004_10022_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_-1&btsid=0b2f807f-288b-4ac4-8b4e-c375bd4997b9

Bumping my question

[TalkingTree]

is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

Looks like it. But I'm not 100% sure.
This might be an aftermarket work.


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[ideus]

is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

Looks like it. But I'm not 100% sure.
This might be an aftermarket work.

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That is a feature of the GON Nerd 60 that the OP may include in this buy, but you should solder your own SMD LEDs, it is not that hard.

[LeandreN]

is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

Looks like it. But I'm not 100% sure.
This might be an aftermarket work.

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That is a feature of the GON Nerd 60 that the OP may include in this buy, but you should solder your own SMD LEDs, it is not that hard.

It's available on the PCB, but SMD LEDs will not be an option to buy.

[ideus]

is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

Looks like it. But I'm not 100% sure.
This might be an aftermarket work.

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That is a feature of the GON Nerd 60 that the OP may include in this buy, but you should solder your own SMD LEDs, it is not that hard.

It's available on the PCB, but SMD LEDs will not be an option to buy.

An SMD LED I soldered on my own Nerd60, it is one of the best PCBs available.

[Kalp1]

Thank you Guys for answering, I'll be ordering those SMD RG 1206 LED.

is it possible to mount RGB LED SMD under the PCB ??

Looks like it. But I'm not 100% sure.
This might be an aftermarket work.

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That is a feature of the GON Nerd 60 that the OP may include in this buy, but you should solder your own SMD LEDs, it is not that hard.

It's available on the PCB, but SMD LEDs will not be an option to buy.

An SMD LED I soldered on my own Nerd60, it is one of the best PCBs available.

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Very clean soldering job. I would be myself scared of burning the LED part.