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Offline Data

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #650 on: Wed, 06 April 2016, 16:48:37 »
Quote from: henz on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:17:34
Quote from: Data on Tue, 05 April 2016, 13:31:09
What is everyone doing for spacebars?  Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?

I space with the left hand.  It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.

i spaced with the wrong hand before as well, you should change!

I verified with Mavis Beacon: left thumb is correct for spacing.

Have a nice day.

Quote from: zefyr on Tue, 05 April 2016, 23:53:30
Quote from: Data on Tue, 05 April 2016, 13:31:09
What is everyone doing for spacebars?  Are those just blank R4 Shifts or... ?

I space with the left hand.  It's a shame the position of the shorter space and FN key can't be swapped to the right half.

Left space bar is number pad 2x 0 keycap.
Right space bar is 2.75x right shift keycap.

Position if ThumbFN is pretty controversial so I'll work on that for next version.
Yeah I just checked.  My left thumb rides right between V and B on the spacebar in staggered QWERTY and that's exactly where you've placed the Fn key in the default layout.  This layout is no good for me.  What a bummer!  I suppose I'll have to wait for Version 2.  :(
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #651 on: Wed, 06 April 2016, 17:17:47 »
Quote from: Data on Wed, 06 April 2016, 16:48:37
Yeah I just checked.  My left thumb rides right between V and B on the spacebar in staggered QWERTY and that's exactly where you've placed the Fn key in the default layout.  This layout is no good for me.  What a bummer!  I suppose I'll have to wait for Version 2.  :(

I guess you can always just program the fn key to be space.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #652 on: Wed, 06 April 2016, 17:33:04 »
I use qwerty and I like spacebar with the right because the left hand sees a lot more activity when typing. This means that the right hand is often free and giving the spacebar to the right hand helps to balance out the work between hands.

Though I can see problems when people are playing games. Not being able to comfortably position your fingers on the wasd cluster and thumb on space can be an issue.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #653 on: Wed, 06 April 2016, 17:51:42 »
Quote from: Orgell_Evaan on Wed, 06 April 2016, 15:29:25
Quote from: sitch on Wed, 06 April 2016, 09:45:03
how heavy are these going to be?

OP mentioned approx. 1 Kg / side.

Vouch. 1kg/side is about right.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #654 on: Thu, 07 April 2016, 06:57:35 »
Considering this vote there should be an option to change Layout:
https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/which-thumb-do-you-use-for-the-space-bar-t12936.html
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #655 on: Thu, 07 April 2016, 10:44:41 »
Quote from: t!ng on Thu, 07 April 2016, 06:57:35
Considering this vote there should be an option to change Layout:
https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/which-thumb-do-you-use-for-the-space-bar-t12936.html

Interesting read. Would agree if possible, to support different buttom row option. I am right handed, using left thumb for spacebar. Specifically the area under V and B key. That means I would be hitting the function key.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #656 on: Sat, 09 April 2016, 04:14:26 »
Totally in for next round, if there will be one.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #657 on: Sun, 10 April 2016, 23:32:17 »
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #658 on: Mon, 11 April 2016, 00:45:00 »
Quote from: zefyr on Sun, 10 April 2016, 23:32:17
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.

 :thumb:

Just a thought: if the locations of the 2u left Space and left Fn were reversed (or if there was an option for it on the PCB) that would be an easy fix for me. 
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #659 on: Mon, 11 April 2016, 07:58:51 »
After buying the Hana keycap set, it might look good on this  :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #660 on: Mon, 11 April 2016, 11:18:24 »
Quote from: Data on Mon, 11 April 2016, 00:45:00
Quote from: zefyr on Sun, 10 April 2016, 23:32:17
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.

 :thumb:

Just a thought: if the locations of the 2u left Space and left Fn were reversed (or if there was an option for it on the PCB) that would be an easy fix for me.

Yes exactly.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #661 on: Mon, 11 April 2016, 11:57:13 »
still can't wait for this one :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #662 on: Mon, 11 April 2016, 17:37:57 »
Man, have a bunch of 67g zealios lying in wait for my ergodox, but so tempted to wait to put them on this instead.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #663 on: Wed, 13 April 2016, 15:52:55 »
Quote from: zefyr on Sun, 10 April 2016, 23:32:17
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.

If you add an option for the opposite spacebar configuration, the current option will still exist too, right? I'm right handed and hit space with my right thumb (between N and M) and so the default configuration would be ideal for me.

Really, really excited about this buy -- this board is endgame for me. Any more updates on the timeline and when we will be able to buy?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #664 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 02:49:17 »
Quote from: BlueMoon on Wed, 13 April 2016, 15:52:55
Quote from: zefyr on Sun, 10 April 2016, 23:32:17
I'm listening guys :)
And working on that.

If you add an option for the opposite spacebar configuration, the current option will still exist too, right? I'm right handed and hit space with my right thumb (between N and M) and so the default configuration would be ideal for me.

Really, really excited about this buy -- this board is endgame for me. Any more updates on the timeline and when we will be able to buy?

Positive.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #665 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 03:39:01 »
any ETA yet?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #666 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 03:42:02 »
Zefyr, will we be able to get just pcb and plate?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #667 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 05:14:12 »
What will the opposite spacebar configuration look like?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #668 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 13:01:17 »
I am a leftie, please be kind to us.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #669 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 15:40:00 »
Definitely interested. Can't wait for this to be a GB.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #670 on: Thu, 14 April 2016, 23:17:22 »
Quote from: hkf on Thu, 14 April 2016, 03:42:02
Zefyr, will we be able to get just pcb and plate?

No, not this time.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #671 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53 »
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #672 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:29:39 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Dang! Crazy! Massdrop actually getting a Korean custom...
Never thought I'd see the day.

Excited!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #673 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:34:14 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.
Awesome. I'm ready for it! Where is my time machine? ;D
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #674 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:44:44 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Thanks for the update Zefyr. Will there be any compromises in quality by going through MassDrop, or will you try to stay true to your GB, V2 version?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #675 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:01:28 »
I suggest you speak to Massdrop and be very specific regarding the details of HOW the keyboards need to be packed/protected for shipment, otherwise many people will receive damaged product.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #676 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:04:47 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

ooooohhhhhhh.  I need to get one!x
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #677 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:08:32 »
That is insane! Looking forward to it!
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #678 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:08:43 »
Quote from: limitz on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:44:44
Thanks for the update Zefyr. Will there be any compromises in quality by going through MassDrop, or will you try to stay true to your GB, V2 version?

Personal customized marking plate will not be provided, only common product signature marking plate will be included.
Except that, no quality compromise. We have really strict standard about quality. - Only Quality Matters -

And I don't understand what you are meaning "V2"?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #679 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:09:04 »
Quote from: Vittra on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:01:28
I suggest you speak to Massdrop and be very specific regarding the details of HOW the keyboards need to be packed/protected for shipment, otherwise many people will receive damaged product.

Noted!
Thanks for your advice.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #680 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:17:17 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:08:43
Quote from: limitz on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:44:44
Thanks for the update Zefyr. Will there be any compromises in quality by going through MassDrop, or will you try to stay true to your GB, V2 version?

Personal customized marking plate will not be provided, only common product signature marking plate will be included.
Except that, no quality compromise. We have really strict standard about quality. - Only Quality Matters -

And I don't understand what you are meaning "V2"?

Ahh, I thought the VE.A that just ran in S. Korea was the V2. My confusion.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #681 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:17:39 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Additional Announcement.

I have to say really sorry for Alps fans since Alps switch mounting plate will not be provided in Massdrop.
I believe all Alps fans can understand why I removed this option.
But I'll explain anyway.
Alps mounting system is very strict about layout.
It has no sustain pins like Cherry MX, and stabilizers is mounted on mounting plate so "Universal Alps plate" cannot be made.
Plus, there's no "Standard" keycap sets for alps (except Matias, but I don't want to limit selection of keycaps.).
So, We will share alps plate drawing on public.
And for who have no access to metalworks shop, we will accept order of Alps plate in our website.
This can make you spend another shipping money. but at this time, I have no better way.
Sorry again and thank you for your understanding in advance :)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #682 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:02 »
Quote from: limitz on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:17:17
Ahh, I thought the VE.A that just ran in S. Korea was the V2. My confusion.

:)
VE.A uses PCB Vergo type.T-II
that might cause you confusion.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #683 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:04 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:17:39
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Additional Announcement.

I have to say really sorry for Alps fans since Alps switch mounting plate will not be provided in Massdrop.
I believe all Alps fans can understand why I removed this option.
But I'll explain anyway.
Alps mounting system is very strict about layout.
It has no sustain pins like Cherry MX, and stabilizers is mounted on mounting plate so "Universal Alps plate" cannot be made.
Plus, there's no "Standard" keycap sets for alps (except Matias, but I don't want to limit selection of keycaps.).
So, We will share alps plate drawing on public.
And for who have no access to metalworks shop, we will accept order of Alps plate in our website.
This can make you spend another shipping money. but at this time, I have no better way.
Sorry again and thank you for your understanding in advance :)

That's okay. Finding keycaps for Alps would be difficult, anyway.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #684 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:20 »
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?
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« Reply #685 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:27:38 »
Quote from: sitch on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:20
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?

To avoid direct shipping (individual) work/risk is one of many reasons that we are working with Massdrop.
Sorry my friend.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #686 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:29:49 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:27:38
Quote from: sitch on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:20
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?

To avoid direct shipping (individual) work/risk is one of many reasons that we are working with Massdrop.
Sorry my friend.


Thank you sir for prompt reply! cant wait for it to drop :)
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« Reply #687 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:30:22 »
now that you're working with massdrop will there be an option to buy it assembled?
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« Reply #688 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:34:18 »
Quote from: Hexterdude on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:30:22
now that you're working with massdrop will there be an option to buy it assembled?

No assembly option at this moment.
But essential ICs will be pre-soldered (SMT).
So all you have to do is soldering switches :)
(Plus in-switch LEDs if you want it)
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Offline harlw

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  • Location: TN
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #689 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:24:17 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.




*PEES PANTS VERY LOUDLY*
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Offline redbanshee

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #690 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:24:28 »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Offline lootbag

  • Posts: 291
  • Location: HK
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #691 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 10:39:09 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:27:38
Quote from: sitch on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:19:20
I wonder if we can request direct shipment from korea instead of korea > USA > Asia ?

To avoid direct shipping (individual) work/risk is one of many reasons that we are working with Massdrop.
Sorry my friend.


Hopefully, shipping will not cost too much.
I am in Hong Kong and it does not seem very efficient to ship from South Korea > US > and back to Hong Kong...
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Offline yuktsi

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #692 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:18:59 »
I would love to pickup another VE.A

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Offline biocalves

  • Posts: 112
  • Location: Southern California
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #693 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:29:10 »
My wallet is ready
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Offline BlueMoon

  • Posts: 4
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #694 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:55:32 »
Very excited about this news! Can you give an estimate of what the price and estimated shipping time will be once it's launched on MassDrop? Definitely going to be in on this GB :)
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Offline Niomosy

  • Posts: 1239
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #695 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 13:24:17 »
Quote from: BlueMoon on Thu, 21 April 2016, 12:55:32
Very excited about this news! Can you give an estimate of what the price and estimated shipping time will be once it's launched on MassDrop? Definitely going to be in on this GB :)

Price was listed in the first post.  $400-450 was the estimate.
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Offline Data

  • Posts: 2608
  • Location: Orlando, FL
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #696 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 14:58:36 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Awesome.
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Offline Butter

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #697 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 16:02:10 »
May is turning out to be really expensive :)
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Offline Niomosy

  • Posts: 1239
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #698 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 19:10:00 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 21 April 2016, 08:26:53
Announcement from team oddforge

As mentioned several times, we struggled to set this GB smoothly.
We are building up e-shop solution but time is too short.
We cannot hold you guys anymore.
Finally found solution and this will happen in very safe/smooth way.

We've been in touch with Massdrop to assist with coordination on this GB.
Massdrop was excited to help with this project and VE.A is scheduled to launch in the middle of May.

At this point, we will not set limit of quantity.
Hope you guys are happy with this way :)

Thanks for waiting everyone.

Massdrop is generally a good choice.  I weep for the extra taxes on it but it makes sense from a distribution standpoint for you.

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Offline tuco

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  • Location: Kansas
Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #699 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 20:00:47 »
Can't wait!
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