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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1550 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:08:58 »
Quote from: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:05:27
Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:54:24
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

That and the fact that ripster has made the whole of r/mk about how ****ty gh is and that the aftermarket price of clacks is essentially gh's fault and r/mk is just 'normal people' wanting these cool caps but geekwack is stopping them... etc etc etc

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Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there

Maybe he has many siblings

No wonder he had to up the price!

yeah like the recent ebay auctions with stupid prices all the r/mk people are like, 'those are regular prices on geekhack, so we better buy the fakes they are only $40'..... :facepalm:
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1551 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:16:06 »
Reddit: where this **** gets upvoted:



and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1552 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:26:01 »
Quote from: Mandolin on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:21:32
The color differences are noticeable, taking the HSV + alpha channel color characterization.

Original:
Color (hue):  bluish-grey black
Color (alpha): high opacity.

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color (hue): reddish coca cola tinted black.
color (alpha): slightly transluscent (noticeable on the (1) edges and in (2) same elevation zone, the original bounces more light).


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Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?

Just curious...
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1553 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:42:48 »
Quote from: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:26:01
Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?

Just curious...

Yes, and this is the argument that K3 and his supporters make. That if Clack "ripped off" Lucasfilm (now Disney) of their IP, then he deserves to have the same done to him.

However, the problem with this logic is that, while the Vader image is owned by Disney, they weren't already producing an MX keycap with the image, which Clack copied. He sculpted the keycap himself, based upon other visual representations of Vader. So it's not as if Clack just made a mold of an already extant product and copied it to sell and make profit, which is exactly what K3 is doing.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1554 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:46:26 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:42:48
Quote from: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:26:01
Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?

Just curious...

Yes, and this is the argument that K3 and his supporters make. That if Clack "ripped off" Lucasfilm (now Disney) of their IP, then he deserves to have the same done to him.

However, the problem with this logic is that, while the Vader image is owned by Disney, they weren't already producing an MX keycap with the image, which Clack copied. He sculpted the keycap himself, based upon other visual representations of Vader. So it's not as if Clack just made a mold of an already extant product and copied it to sell and make profit, which is exactly what K3 is doing.

Oh. So, Lucas is cool with the original molding of the Clack? It doesn't step on any IP toes?

If it is cool, then that opens doors for my own ideas, mwahahahahahahaahahaha!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1555 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:49:16 »
I would imagine that, given the number available, it never even was a blip on their lawyer army's radar.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1556 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:50:02 »
Lucas, now Disney, never gave permission, but they also never acted against it. So that doesn't mean that it doesn't step on any IP toes, but it also doesn't mean that they're okay with it.

Like JD said, the issue is that K3 just straight up copies other people's work.  There's no originality or novel designs, it's just stealing the work of others.  Clack and Bro both put work into theirs, they sculpted the designs and did all the work.  K3 just tosses some clay in the base, stamps it as his, then rips them off and sells them..
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1557 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:51:16 »
In brief, CC may be in the wrong with the Vader cap, but it may be a legal gray area, or at the very least, isn't possibly causing any financial damages to Disney. On the other hand, K3KC is DEFINITELY wrong and is committing textbook copyright infringement, and is a much more serious threat to CC's business. And as mom always said, two wrongs don't make a right...
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1558 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:52:59 »
Quote from: slip84 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:49:16
I would imagine that, given the number available, it never even was a blip on their lawyer army's radar.

Ah

Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:50:02
Lucas, now Disney, never gave permission, but they also never acted against it. So that doesn't mean that it doesn't step on any IP toes, but it also doesn't mean that they're okay with it.

Like JD said, the issue is that K3 just straight up copies other people's work.  There's no originality or novel designs, it's just stealing the work of others.  Clack and Bro both put work into theirs, they sculpted the designs and made something of them.

Oh, I get it. I can't stand this K3 dude for what he does. I have nothing but respect for real artisans: Clack, Bro, Martin, etc.

I was just wondering about the copyright/trademark for my own ideas of what I may come up with should I ever try my hand at keycap sculpting magick...

Quote from: intelli78 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:51:16
In brief, CC may be in the wrong with the Vader cap, but it may be a legal gray area, or at the very least, isn't possibly causing any financial damages to Disney. On the other hand, K3KC is DEFINITELY wrong and is committing textbook copyright infringement. And as your mom always said, two wrongs don't make a right...

Agreed...
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1559 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:00:15 »
Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:16:06
Reddit: where this **** gets upvoted:
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and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:
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This is my favorite.  It's the same damn argument they use every time:



Since when is counterfeiting competing in a market segment?  Competition is introducing something novel that *gasp* competes with another product and takes away market share because it is superior in price and/or quality and/or features.  K3 does not compete, he counterfeits.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1560 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:05:25 »
Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:00:15
Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:16:06
Reddit: where this **** gets upvoted:
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and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:
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This is my favorite.  It's the same damn argument they use every time:

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Since when is counterfeiting competing in a market segment?  Competition is introducing something novel that *gasp* competes with another product and takes away market share because it is superior in price and/or quality and/or features.  K3 does not compete, he counterfeits.
"But I was only counterfeiting money to create some competition with the government!"
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1561 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:08:52 »
But guys... 'that's how business works...' you should know this.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1562 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:11:39 »
I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1563 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:12:24 »

Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:11:39
I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.

It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1564 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:13:38 »
Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:12:24

Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:11:39
I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.

It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1565 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:17:49 »

Quote from: slip84 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:13:38
Quote from: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:12:24

Quote from: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:11:39
I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.

It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1566 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:24:09 »
you 'won' because they have the attention span of a 5yo.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1567 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:45:00 »
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...

mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1568 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:01:52 »
Quote from: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:45:00
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...

mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1569 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:13:41 »
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1570 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:22:19 »
Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:01:52
Quote from: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:45:00
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...

mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...

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Dayum, bro. You got old eating popcorn.

Still young and hype over hurr.




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>vesper realizes he's the loser who appeared late to the party when it was ending and was overhyped like an idiot








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You guys need to brighten up with the popcorn. The "pop" in popcorn is for fun and excitement!!!




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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1571 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:30:34 »
Quote from: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:22:19
Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:01:52
Quote from: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:45:00
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...

mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...

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Dayum, bro. You got old eating popcorn.

Still young and hype over hurr.

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>vesper realizes he's the loser who appeared late to the party when it was ending and was overhyped like an idiot

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Quote from: trizkut on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:13:41
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You guys need to brighten up with the popcorn. The "pop" in popcorn is for fun and excitement!!!

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1572 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:39:02 »
yall mfers need your bidness degrees from reddit university so you can understand hoe bidness works

how not hoe but im leaving it
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1574 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:02:46 »
Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:30:34

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Quote from: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:39:02
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1575 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:14:09 »


lolwut
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1576 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:15:31 »
pinches pendejos amirite
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1577 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:15:47 »
Quote from: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:39:02
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Hoe bidness is important too demik
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1578 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:17:27 »
Quote from: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:15:31
pinches pendejos amirite

What, dropping the puto?

Or, Ask a Mexican's favorite, pinche puto pendejo baboso.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1579 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:27:58 »
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lolwut

Oh reddit.... u so crazy....
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« Reply #1580 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:51:08 »

Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:27:58
Quote from: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:14:09
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lolwut

Oh reddit.... u so crazy....

People, people are crazy. Heck, I'm crazy.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1581 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:10:15 »
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lolwut

LOL, couldn't stop myself.   :-X
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« Reply #1583 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:25:23 »
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It sounds like that guy stole his opinion on clacks/bros from someone else but couldn't make sense of it
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« Reply #1584 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:19:13 »
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lolwut

holy ****.

i hope he's only pretending to  full retard.


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« Reply #1586 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:09:45 »
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« Reply #1587 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:16:05 »
Bro be like:




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« Reply #1589 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:25:39 »
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« Reply #1591 on: Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:18:43 »
Is it too late to get in on this popcorn train?
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1592 on: Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:20:24 »
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1594 on: Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:23:10 »
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« Reply #1595 on: Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:24:55 »


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Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 23 March 2015, 15:14:18
tp thread is tp thread
Sometimes it's like he accidentally makes a thread instead of a google search.

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Offline IPT

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Re: fake clack discussion
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1599 on: Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:57:27 »
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:34:48
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Pace yourself. bro. Pace yourself.
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