Razer BW $56 shipped BW Ultimate $103 shipped

[fssbzz]

Code: RAZER1213

add FBXMAS10 to get $10 OFF if you spend more then $50

http://www.newegg.com/store/Brand.aspx?Brand=2202&Tpk=razer


Razer BlackWidow Mechanical KB $55.99 shipped


Razer BlackWidow Ultimate $103.99 shipped

add FBXMAS10 to get $10 OFF if you spend more then $50

[Lanx]

damn, currently the champ for cheapest blues then? (at least for a modern non funky soldering board)
couldn't hurt just to steer ppl who are on the fence or looking for a "cheap" mech board to go buy this. so what 2nkro!

[fssbzz]

is a good price for a typing keyboard.
with all the media keys.

[Lanx]

plus it's sold by newegg! idk newegg has always treated me right 99% of the time, no super expensive shipping like some stores.

[fssbzz]

lol, who doesn't love newegg.
they got the best customer service ever..

[fssbzz]

good way to promote people use Mechanical keyboard.
and soon more people will seek for better mechanical keyboard because they want to be better then others, and more people will come to GeekHack to seek out for better Guidelines about mechanical keyboard, and then ripster will

lol

[Uncle Grandpa]

Looks like I'm getting my first new mechanical keyboard, just in time for the holiday season! (My first was a Chicony 5181 that was rescued from a school computer lab garbage pile. Unfortunately, it was badly damaged in an act of carelessness my me...)

[itlnstln]

If this were Cherry brown, I might have snagged one.  $56 is not a bad price at all, even if the legends are ugly as sin.

[lzf929]

wow...great deal.
Don't know if I should get a ultimate edition or standard?

[Uncle Grandpa]

I recommend we at LEAST raise the barrier to entry.

Typing "USB" is pretty easy (especially when I give the hint away in the "Beginners Wiki").

How about "Please outline the Ducky Product Code Naming Scheme"?

I know, I know, making my first post about this keyboard makes me the first of the unwashed masses that will flood into GeekHack because of this sale. (Also, I'm a horribly careless person and should be tarred and feathered for my transgressions against keyboardkind, specifically the maiming of an innocent Chicony.)

Still, this is quite the deal. It's hard to find something with MX Blue for much less than this, and while not a "top shelp" keyboard, it's still a fine gateway into the land of empty wallets and spirited discussion of switches. (In my defense, I had my finger on the trigger for a tenkeyless Filco with MX Browns, shortly before EK's stock ran out.)

[Phaedrus2129]

Like I posted when the Razer first appeared - Deck and Xarmor are about at Dead as Moogle's Ducky.  Distribution and discounting.

Yeah, ouch. I think they could survive the $70 BW, but not a $56 one.

[HaaTa]

Lame, doesn't work on Newegg.ca

[AndrewZorn]

Fully programmable?  To what extent?  Stored in firmware?

I know I could just search but it'd be nice to just get a "worth it or not" on this

[Lanx]

Get the standard.  Ultimate is a ripoff without NKRO.

they had to sacrifice NKRO for the bling bling lights!

[theferenc]

I seem to remember reading that the macros are stored internally, and you only need the driver to program them.

I could be confusing the BW with something else, though.

[AndrewZorn]

the code makes the naga $56.  there goes my afternoon, time to start reading reviews.

[laden3]

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lol

... why ruin the sexy face of geek girl >3<

[Lanx]

the code makes the naga $56.  there goes my afternoon, time to start reading reviews.

oh this code is for all razer products... hmmm naga is nice... must resist.

[laden3]

Bought a good candidate for mods, the keyboard itself is even cheaper than buying 109 blue switches. har har har

[sixty]

Fully programmable?  To what extent?  Stored in firmware?

I know I could just search but it'd be nice to just get a "worth it or not" on this

As mentioned in my review the macros/programming require the driver to be installed. Profiles are not saved in memory either, they are stored in windows registry. The macros are at least real hardware scancodes, which makes them superior to AHK or similar solutions if you play games that block virtual keystrokes.

[AndrewZorn]

Bought a good candidate for mods, the keyboard itself is even cheaper than buying 109 blue switches. har har har

actually this is a good idea
something i can chop down to mini size without feeling like i wasted too much

[Lanx]

even i'm thinking about this... i might even ghetto cherry mod the blues to brown! (i want to check out the razer controller i think it's pin capable)

[Azuremen]

Kind of tempted to get, if just for a gift to a friend during the holidays.

Damnit, why does it have to be cheap enough to "well, why not?"

[nanu]

self-labeled promo code ends today. tempting.

[spronkey]

I got my BW non-ultimate yesterday, first board with Cherry blues after recently getting a Ducky 9008 with cherry browns.

I've got to say, the click noise from the blues really does drive me up the wall - mainly that I can't type quietly at all, whereas at least with the browns you can slow down and baby the keys at night...

Having said that the board itself is reasonably OK - Doesn't seem to be finished as well as my Ducky, nor is it as solid, and the cable isn't nearly as good as some other braided cables are, but on the whole it's not bad.

For $55USD it's a steal.

[twn2]

Oops! I thought this KB would stay at $70 for at least a while, now it goes to $56. It seems to be non-beatable for a cherry blue in this price now! To my best knowledge, the next cheapest cherry blue might be adesso MKB-125B or some ione KB's.

[vegaman]

I recommend we at LEAST raise the barrier to entry.

Typing "USB" is pretty easy (especially when I give the hint away in the "Beginners Wiki").

How about "Please outline the Ducky Product Code Naming Scheme"?

Hey, I typed "PS2" wasn't sure if I should put the / in though.

Though I'd rather something less bling myself that is a pretty unbeatable price.

[RickyJ]

Wrong kinda diode -  signal versus Bling Emitting diode.

Hahaha, 2nd time so far I've caught you learning from my posts.

If they extend the code to Newegg.ca I might give it a chance, but I'm pretty opposed to their design choices.  Rosewill is still a better deal, but the discounted BW price of admission is attractive.

[elbowglue]

actually this is a good idea
something i can chop down to mini size without feeling like i wasted too much

Now that is a good idea..

[CodeChef]

Well ****. Talk about someone regretting their purchase. For 45 dollar savings I'd be willing to deal with clickiness...

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I'm very tempted to pick this up as a spare, or get it plus a long USB male + female cable for usage on the couch.

[isp]

Damn, trigger finger got itchy again...

bought one for a friend and convinced 2 others to give it a try!

[NamelessPFG]

Despite being a really tempting price, I'll have to pass this time.

I'm waiting for that Switch Try Numpad to show up at my doorstep so I can find out if I really do like Cherry MX Blues...and if I do, I'm going for that DSI Modular Mac board plus a matching numpad with those switches, even if it's twice as much. At least I won't have to tear it apart and solder in a ton of diodes. (Of course, the real reason for me to go that route is that I want to try having my numpad on the LEFT side for once.)

[Wogrim]

Mmm Ultimate is tempting... I REALLY like the backlighting on it, but don't like other features.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I ordered a regular. The price was too good to pass up.

[Azuremen]

I ordered a regular. The price was too good to pass up.

That is how I justified it. That, and I am listing my 6Gv2 here soon which should more than pay for the Razer.

I can just see those macro keys being so nice for working in Photoshop and a few other applications.

[Lanx]

That is how I justified it. That, and I am listing my 6Gv2 here soon which should more than pay for the Razer.

I can just see those macro keys being so nice for working in Photoshop and a few other applications.

i would not be able to function at work w/o my nostromo.

[woody]

I knew about Diodes when you were a Zygote.

Plain diodes are so 20th century. Now iDiods are all the rage.

[gmorf33]

Looks like they're sold out now

[Azuremen]

i would not be able to function at work w/o my nostromo.

 What do you do at work? I'd think the more typical arrangement of keys on a normal layout would work better for photoshop and such. Though I might be a bit unusual in this regard from years of typing with only my left hand while gaming...

[fssbzz]

updated OP

add FBXMAS10 to get $10 OFF if you spend more then $50

[twn2]

updated OP

It seems that FBXMAS10 has been already dead.

By the way, I tried to combine both coupon codes to one item when FBXMAS10 was valid, and it seems to be invalid to do this, so RAZER1213 should be enough if you want a razer product.

[fssbzz]

ahh no, because the FBXMAS10 is only limited redemption i guess, is all used up.

[taswyn]

Hah, that's funny. "PS2" works to register at Geekhack? How vintage.

I tried "DIN" first >.>;; It *seemed* like the obvious answer =(

PS2 wasn't working for me either when I registered =(



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the code makes the naga $56. there goes my afternoon, time to start reading reviews.

If you do anything that benefits from a lot of extra mappings being available, get one. If you can get used to using them, they're amazing. I really prefer the old MS Intellimouse (rip V1 and multiple V3s) shape to the Naga's, but it's also not as bad as most of Razer's mice (it's not that awful--to me--"adder" shape). I personally don't usually use more than 2 and maybe 3 rows (going... vertically) of the side number keys, and that's still so nice to have. The side mouse buttons are a little awkward, but I don't really have trouble hitting them personally. Mine's been used for easily 1000+ hours of gaming, with the side keys used in the main "rotation" for playing WoW (so basically 1 press per second while playing), and I've had 0 issues... the black coating on the side keys is fading on the 7-9 and 10-12 row along the edges of the keys nearest me (so there are some lines of light leaking through), that's it.

Be aware that the default "num pad" mode is *actually* a numpad (even affected by numlock), so all of the usual concerns of modifier keys along with num pad keys apply ("Why doesn't shift+5 do anything!?" etc). The software now allows full remapping (and even macros) of the side keys, though. And 1-2-3 mod works fine of course.

There, there's a mini review, if the negatives don't bother you and you were at all thinking of buying one, go buy it =P

[epik]

I slipped in on this deal. I was interested in a black or brown switch Filco and then the das keyboard since I didn't want to deal with a not-perfect Filco and shipping costs.

USB 2.0 ports is nice with the Das but I figured a $56 deal with the Razer would be a good way to see what these cherry mx switches feel like. And the blue seems to be the most raved about switch as far as overall clicky feeling and typing.

Even though I will game, I don't believe it'll be a problem.

[itlnstln]

This was a helluva deal.  The only one that I remember that was better was the $24 MX SPOS 'boards.  It's a great way to check out Cherry blues on the cheap.

[BlueRain]

Back in Stock! "RAZER1213" still works.

[NamelessPFG]

So it's still valid at that price...what a tease...I really want to try out that DSI board, though, and I certainly can't afford both!

Damn it, what is this forum doing to my financial sense?

[epik]

New review at newegg points out how it's not full nkro and how the key placement is not standard but the F keys are moved to the right, there is no dip on the caps lock, etc.

So this is not a perfect board for gaming and since the price is 70 msrp i feel like it'll get lower than 56 soon anyway.

Das might still be the overall better buy if you've already tried blue switches.

[jaynoon]

So this is not a perfect board for gaming and since the price is 70 msrp i feel like it'll get lower than 56 soon anyway.

I strongly suspect that this board will be discontinued before the price goes any lower. Cherry switches just aren't that cheap...

[fssbzz]

this is actually just the newegg 20% sale on all product not just the keyboard.

[Hofy]

Back in Stock! "RAZER1213" still works.

Just tried it, NOT working.

[nmd]

Same, no longer working.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Just tried it, NOT working.

Must have been set as a 3 day coupon. Probably expired at midnight PST.

[Azuremen]

Yup, coupon is no longer working.

I must say this keyboard is quite good for the price. Certainly better than the Adesso I had which cost more. I can see some areas where they cut the corners, namely the legs and the injection process for the keycaps, notably larger area use for injection than on the Filco's keys. Does it actually affect anything? No, it just makes the caps look a bit cheap if you take them off and flip them over.

The keycaps have a slightly different profile than the Filcos as well, but not much. And it does have a slightly lower sound than the Filco... softer sounding almost.

[laden3]

I don't like the keycaps on BW. Do you think its the "rubbery coating" or its made from something different from ABS and PBT?

[jaynoon]

I thought only the BW Ultimate had the rubbery coating?

[Azuremen]

The basic doesn't have the rubber coating from what I can tell. The keys are highly textured though, which is kind of nice and feels pretty good on the fingers from what I'd say. And might not be as prone to getting shiny like the Filco keys love to do (looks at Filco with look of disapproval)

[Azuremen]

Does this suffice, Ripster?


The thickness looks to be the same as the Filcos, but that was just eyeballing them back to back. I don't have a set of calipers around or I'd measure it out.

Also, those are mm on the ruler.

[fssbzz]

is actually from Panda-R GH
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13016
lol

[fssbzz]

Knowledge is to share. New knowledge is the most valuable commodity on earth. The more truth we have to work with, the richer we become.

[Azuremen]

Yeah they are fairly high contrast. The background is some white mat board (I couldn't find my grey card) that I tried to do some white balance around.

The profile is a little different on the Razer as well. I put on the Filco WASD keys and they sit at a slightly different angle.

Also, those wondering about the Razer logo light; it's brightness can be toggled with the fn+f12 key, including turning it off and making it pulsate. Very important for gaming, clearly.

Also the 7 key on the numpad is setting my OCD off. It is slightly more to the left (the legend for the 7) to make room for "home" next to it. Why they didn't put it below the 7, who knows.

[fssbzz]

I don't blame you on that. =(

well, i think GH is getting better and better.
our Keyboard section views always double the > OCN keyboard section views.
we need to change a lot of things.
the random question

Random Question
Name the three letter acronym of a common computer interface used for peripherals such as keyboards and mice.

for registration, why not just make email verification or code or word verification?

MOVE the mech kb GUIDE to the FIRST Page instead of SUB of GH WIKI.
that's my own suggestion and opinion.
i don't know what you guys think.

[Nadger]

I only get pissed at douchebag OCN moderators who accuse me of lying about the ownership of pics.

BTW be careful about the Terms of Service at OCN for content.  And since it's a advertisement driven site with salaried people I'd be careful.



Not that I think a book on keys would be a big seller but  my lego pics are dear to me.

Good to know, how is crap like that even legal?  According to that clause, if you designed keycaps like clickclack and didnt copy-write them, and posted pictures of them on OCN, they could take it, mass produce it and sell it.

[fssbzz]

what even worst is
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mechanical+keyboard

does gh even show up in the top 5 search result?
click the link above.

[AndrewZorn]

I only get pissed at douchebag OCN moderators who accuse me of lying about the ownership of pics.

BTW be careful about the Terms of Service at OCN for content.  And since it's a advertisement driven site with salaried people I'd be careful.

To be fair, I think he simply mean that they were unaware they were [your] copyrighted images since there is no watermark.  I don't think he is accusing you of lying, if anything malicious, he is just accusing you of being a copyright *******.

And ToS usually say crazy stuff.

Not that I'm a fan of OCN or anything... I go on XtremeSystems sometimes but I guess my goals have changed.

[fssbzz]

what you guys think?
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13536

[AndrewZorn]

To protest the presentation of your idea, I will withhold my opinion.

[fssbzz]

To protest the presentation of your idea, I will withhold my opinion.

just share your opinion. =)
anything to protest just post it.
is always good to see others opinion.

[Lanx]

what even worst is
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mechanical+keyboard

does gh even show up in the top 5 search result?
click the link above.

ocn has a PR of 5 and alex of 54k, conversely GH has pr of 3 and alex of 104k.
then all the other sites are wiki and manufacturers.

[woody]

Forum wars, yippiiieeeee.

[isp]

FYI: If you missed the newegg deal and still want one, I have a new one FS in the classifieds section.

[donborvio]

Why get this, when you can get the M10 for just as much (or less)?  The M10 is surprisingly solid for the price, IMO.

[Phaedrus2129]

So apparently removing a keycap voids the BlackWidow's warranty.

Weak.

[nocturn4l3030]

do these "modified" cherry blues feel any different? or was that just BS marketing

[taswyn]

offtopic~ish >.>;

does gh even show up in the top 5 search result?
click the link above.

That's really odd, because GH always shows *very* high when searching for specific topics relating to various models of keyboards/keys/switches/etc (It's how ~I~ ended up here anywho, looking for reference material on something or other). Time for some SEO work?

[jaynoon]

Pretty sure that means they throw away the ones that don't work.. amazing.

[donborvio]

That soldering job does look kinda ugly, but the keyboard works fine?  Now I want to take mine apart and see if it looks similar.  Oh well, cheap is cheap.

[Snow_Fox]

I think its amazing they "cherry-pick" the cherry blue switches..

But, completely skip over NKRO.

I mean don't get me wrong.. if the BW: ultimate was 80$ or maybe even up to 100$ I would think it would really be an impressive keyboard with or without NKRO.

As much as I hate to admit it, I've never had a problem with key roll over and I've been gaming a pretty long time..

On the flipside... without NKRO it just looks week compared to other keyboards at the same price range..

And they act like "cherry-picking" blue switches is going to somehow redeem the board..

When the truth is.. it isn't going to be any higher quality than any other cherry blue keyboard...

[iMav]

Time for some SEO work?

I've never worried about optimizing geekhack for the various search engines.  There are usually a dozen or so search engine bots fondling geekhack at any given time, and vB is reasonably friendly to them.  

Those that care about keyboards will find us.

[Teckman]

Just got mine a couple days ago.  My first mech board and I'm loving it.

[FrittenFett]

Welcome in the Higher Society.