Post by: ttom on Fri, 06 September 2019, 15:42:21
Introduction:
The current GMK White-on-Black sets available on Drop and Originative have great coverage, but still miss out on providing coverage for many different layouts. The idea behind these kits is to add some more compatibility options to this iconic set that aren't currently available, that we have been seeing in recent extension kits. The keycaps are CR with WS1 legends, matching with
GMK WoB of course.
When?
The GB will run from Monday 23rd March through to Friday 24th April, lasting roughly a month.
Vendors and Pricing:
EU: mykeyboard.eu (http://mykeyboard.eu)
40s: 44 EUR
Colevrak+: 50 EUR
R0/R5: 54 EUR
NA: novelkeys.xyz (http://novelkeys.xyz)
40s: 45 USD
Colevrak+: 52 USD
R0/R5: 55 USD
OCE: dailyclack.com (http://dailyclack.com)
40s: 74 AUD
Colevrak+: 85 AUD
R0/R5: 90 AUD
CA: deskhero.ca (http://deskhero.ca)
40s: 63 CAD
Colevrak+: 73 CAD
R0/R5: 77 CAD
Kits:
40s
The 40s+ kit aims to give coverage to as many different board layouts as possible not included in the original kit. This kit gives 40s, split and ergonomic boards compatibility as well as having 1.50 backspace for HHKB, and a 1.25 BoW tab to make GMK Minimal compatible with staggered 40s.
(https://i.imgur.com/XbGqzKO.png)
Colevrak+
This kit adds compatibility to many different typing layouts.
(https://i.imgur.com/rp6ADgR.png)
R0/R5 Compatibility
This kit adds R0 and R5 compatibility to GMK White-on-Black for a full cherry profile.
(https://i.imgur.com/nX6yknY.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/kG3UnKt.jpg)
(full cherry profile; currently most kits have two sets of R1 and R4 instead of R0 and R5)
Renders courtesy of Abec13:
Keyboard: 45-ATS by Abec13
Keycaps: GMK Zhuyin with GMK WoB modifiers (R2 Esc, R2 Back, R3 Tab, R3 Enter, R4 Hyper from 40s)
(https://i.imgur.com/c1YI8kB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/TryOOvK.png)
Keycaps: GMK WoB (R2 Esc, R2 Back, R3 Tab, R3 Enter, R4 Hyper, R4 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars from 40s)
(https://i.imgur.com/3L5ftQb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/y8n8pFW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AQzBqhy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NWrzN5y.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VGsOZU5.png)
Keyboard: UD_40 by GOLDWORMS and mykeyboard.eu:
Keycaps: GMK WoB (R2 Esc, R2 Back, R3 Tab, R3 Enter, R4 2.75u and 1u spacebars from 40s)
(https://i.imgur.com/IAfftZb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/JIblHA2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/vqrz61t.png)
To do:
Many thanks to:
- Abec13 for the stunning renders
- 40s discord and Abec for the help with the 40s kit
- David for putting up with my pestering questions
- MyKeyboard and NovelKeys for offering to be proxies for these kits
- Dvorcol for the help with the Colevrak+ kit
Previous ICs:
R0/R5: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101069.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101069.0)
Colevrak: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.0)
Post by: MehAdviceGuy on Fri, 06 September 2019, 15:51:45
Please make this happen!
Post by: bnhw on Fri, 06 September 2019, 15:56:00
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 06 September 2019, 16:17:01
- is there a place to get GMK WoB? I missed the drop and
- why do these addon sets have an extra B?
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Fri, 06 September 2019, 16:35:52
I'm kinda into this, but 2 questions:
- is there a place to get GMK WoB? I missed the drop and
- why do these addon sets have an extra B?
* You can wait for Massdrop to reopen their sale. Happens pretty much every month and remains open for a few days. Or you can get Originative's version of WoB, for sale at their site (albeit at a higher price).
* It's for the TGR Alice (a popular split ergonomic keyboard) and its clones.
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Post by: equalunique on Fri, 06 September 2019, 16:41:40
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Post by: Abec13 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 16:49:28
Reply left to response forum:
I'm running into the same problem here as I am with the 40s kit on the Katakana set. I want to buy it to match it with some alphas but the bottom row would be miscolored. If your inentions are to make this like your ortho kit, you've got to add bottom row mods, maybe even some arrow keys.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 06 September 2019, 17:04:47
I was just talking about this the other day. Thanks so much for bringing this project.
Reply left to response forum:
I'm running into the same problem here as I am with the 40s kit on the Katakana set. I want to buy it to match it with some alphas but the bottom row would be miscolored. If your inentions are to make this like your ortho kit, you've got to add bottom row mods, maybe even some arrow keys.
No problem <3 The approach with this kit is a bit different - it's to make your WoB set (originative / drop) compatible for 40s (among other) boards. It's not a modifier kit like the N9 ortho one.
Post by: Abec13 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 18:09:40
Post by: vosechu on Fri, 06 September 2019, 18:10:12
Post by: MdotMaxson on Fri, 06 September 2019, 18:34:31
Post by: Macmutant on Fri, 06 September 2019, 22:36:10
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 06 September 2019, 23:22:58
The Atreus family needs a pair of blank 1.5u keys. I believe this represents a fairly large chunk of 40% ergos.If Atreus is within scope, then +1
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Post by: nasp on Fri, 06 September 2019, 23:30:47
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/gmk-wob-hiragana?variant=29012088881245
(https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/gmk-wob-hiragana?variant=29012088881245)
Looks like it ends tonight though! Not saying you shouldn't run this, but wanted to bring it up in case you weren't aware. A BoW or N9 40's extension would be cool too!
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 07 September 2019, 00:15:46
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Post by: CMWB on Sat, 07 September 2019, 06:22:59
Post by: Robosculpts on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:01:51
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sun, 08 September 2019, 18:02:19
Post by: ttom on Mon, 09 September 2019, 17:20:06
Post by: CodeMayhem on Wed, 11 September 2019, 06:40:02
Post by: ttom on Thu, 12 September 2019, 08:09:06
You should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 27 September 2019, 14:39:43
You should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)
I saw that the wob hiragana GB started yesterday. Was there any luck in getting this kit run at the same time?
No unfortunately I haven't heard anything from the GB runner :(
Oh ****! Please please please run this. Don't wait for my permission!
i guess it was the other way around and he didn't see it in time. the colevrak bois have been trying to get a responce from him but it looks like he isn't very active on here, this is his first and only ic. We all would greatly appreciate you including the kit when you run your kit. also the proposed kit in his ic is incomplete, the colevrak kit that ran with gmk pulse is what we're looking for. thank you in advance for your consideration.
Post by: ttom on Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:46:00
You should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)I saw that the wob hiragana GB started yesterday. Was there any luck in getting this kit run at the same time?
No unfortunately I haven't heard anything from the GB runner :(
Oh ****! Please please please run this. Don't wait for my permission!
i guess it was the other way around and he didn't see it in time. the colevrak bois have been trying to get a responce from him but it looks like he isn't very active on here, this is his first and only ic. We all would greatly appreciate you including the kit when you run your kit. also the proposed kit in his ic is incomplete, the colevrak kit that ran with gmk pulse is what we're looking for. thank you in advance for your consideration.
will add this / revamp the ic later today then, thanks <3 be sure to refer the people waiting for the colevrak set to this ic
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:58:44
You should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)I saw that the wob hiragana GB started yesterday. Was there any luck in getting this kit run at the same time?
No unfortunately I haven't heard anything from the GB runner :(
Oh ****! Please please please run this. Don't wait for my permission!
i guess it was the other way around and he didn't see it in time. the colevrak bois have been trying to get a responce from him but it looks like he isn't very active on here, this is his first and only ic. We all would greatly appreciate you including the kit when you run your kit. also the proposed kit in his ic is incomplete, the colevrak kit that ran with gmk pulse is what we're looking for. thank you in advance for your consideration.
will add this / revamp the ic later today then, thanks <3 be sure to refer the people waiting for the colevrak set to this ic
will do thank you so much!!
Post by: Obamas Mama on Sat, 28 September 2019, 18:50:52
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:30:44
MoreYou should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)I saw that the wob hiragana GB started yesterday. Was there any luck in getting this kit run at the same time?
No unfortunately I haven't heard anything from the GB runner :(
Oh ****! Please please please run this. Don't wait for my permission!
i guess it was the other way around and he didn't see it in time. the colevrak bois have been trying to get a responce from him but it looks like he isn't very active on here, this is his first and only ic. We all would greatly appreciate you including the kit when you run your kit. also the proposed kit in his ic is incomplete, the colevrak kit that ran with gmk pulse is what we're looking for. thank you in advance for your consideration.
will add this / revamp the ic later today then, thanks <3 be sure to refer the people waiting for the colevrak set to this ic
Please consider a Colevrak+ kit like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/7R3XGJv.png)
Details in the SA SNES IC here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101187.msg2786467#msg2786467).
Edit: changed detailed post link to one I update as needed.
Post by: radam on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:38:27
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:43:27
MoreYou should message the guy trying to run the WoB Colevrak kit about running these together. He tried contacting the person running WoB Hiragana but they nvr got back to him.
Thanks, will do.
Also - now that I'm waiting for my ortho kit GB to be approved I returned to this and posted an update :)I saw that the wob hiragana GB started yesterday. Was there any luck in getting this kit run at the same time?
No unfortunately I haven't heard anything from the GB runner :(
Oh ****! Please please please run this. Don't wait for my permission!
i guess it was the other way around and he didn't see it in time. the colevrak bois have been trying to get a responce from him but it looks like he isn't very active on here, this is his first and only ic. We all would greatly appreciate you including the kit when you run your kit. also the proposed kit in his ic is incomplete, the colevrak kit that ran with gmk pulse is what we're looking for. thank you in advance for your consideration.
will add this / revamp the ic later today then, thanks <3 be sure to refer the people waiting for the colevrak set to this ic
Please consider a Colevrak+ kit like this:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7R3XGJv.png)
I posted details in the WoB Colevrak IC here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.msg2800882#msg2800882).
Both scooped and barred homing too
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 28 September 2019, 23:47:49
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Post by: psxndc on Sun, 29 September 2019, 06:26:02
Super excited for a colevrak WoB 40%!
Ditto this!!
I'm kinda into this, but 2 questions:
- is there a place to get GMK WoB? I missed the drop and
- why do these addon sets have an extra B?
* You can wait for Massdrop to reopen their sale. Happens pretty much every month and remains open for a few days.
What do you know, it's back on sale, so I just did. Thanks for the tip to keep an eye on Drop. Woohoo 40s Colevrak!!
Post by: ttom on Sun, 29 September 2019, 10:29:44
Post by: Lormania on Sun, 29 September 2019, 11:55:17
Post by: walletburner on Sun, 29 September 2019, 12:27:37
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sun, 29 September 2019, 16:15:14
gave this an update, any help on the colevrak kit is appreciated
just missing a R2 M and homing A. You also have a blank R3 in there.
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 29 September 2019, 16:26:44
gave this an update, any help on the colevrak kit is appreciated
I recommend adding R2 M and Homing A:
(https://i.imgur.com/7PtES9M.png)
Differences between a Dvorak- & Colemak-only kit and recent Colevrak+ kits:
(https://i.imgur.com/dxnsVBs.png)
I posted details of alternate layouts and what non-QWERTY keys each one uses in the WoB Colevrak IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.msg2800882#msg2800882
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sun, 29 September 2019, 17:07:27
Post by: ttom on Sun, 29 September 2019, 17:52:05
thanks <3 i'll likely be adding those then unless there are any objectionsgave this an update, any help on the colevrak kit is appreciated
I recommend adding R2 M and Homing A:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7PtES9M.png)
Differences between a Dvorak- & Colemak-only kit and recent Colevrak+ kits:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dxnsVBs.png)
I posted details of alternate layouts and what non-QWERTY keys each one uses in the WoB Colevrak IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.msg2800882#msg2800882
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Mon, 30 September 2019, 07:23:35
thanks <3 i'll likely be adding those then unless there are any objectionsgave this an update, any help on the colevrak kit is appreciated
I recommend adding R2 M and Homing A:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7PtES9M.png)
Differences between a Dvorak- & Colemak-only kit and recent Colevrak+ kits:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dxnsVBs.png)
I posted details of alternate layouts and what non-QWERTY keys each one uses in the WoB Colevrak IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.msg2800882#msg2800882
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
unlikely to be any objections from the colevrak bois. colevrak+ is more expensive but it's also more inclusive making MOQ more manageable.
Post by: ehmlis on Mon, 30 September 2019, 09:13:12
Post by: nasp on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:17:49
Would like to see another color option presented, but that might make the price unobtainable for many.
L9/CR is a great option and is still running for a few more hours with 9009. BoW is also a good choice and should go well with a lot of sets.
Perhaps a poll could be added to see what most people prefer?
Post by: ttom on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:21:41
thanks <3 i'll likely be adding those then unless there are any objectionsgave this an update, any help on the colevrak kit is appreciated
I recommend adding R2 M and Homing A:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7PtES9M.png)
Differences between a Dvorak- & Colemak-only kit and recent Colevrak+ kits:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dxnsVBs.png)
I posted details of alternate layouts and what non-QWERTY keys each one uses in the WoB Colevrak IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100325.msg2800882#msg2800882
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
unlikely to be any objections from the colevrak bois. colevrak+ is more expensive but it's also more inclusive making MOQ more manageable.
added ;D
Post by: ttom on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:23:30
I don't really see the value in adding the 40s kit to the Colevrak kit, but I'm sure it'll help MOQ so I'll accept it.
Would like to see another color option presented, but that might make the price unobtainable for many.
L9/CR is a great option and is still running for a few more hours with 9009. BoW is also a good choice and should go well with a lot of sets.
Perhaps a poll could be added to see what most people prefer?
They won't be sold together as one kit. GMK offers a lower MOQ if both kits are ordered at the same time so it's beneficial for both the 40s and the colevrak kit. Basically the old person in charge of the colevrak kit is very inactive and unable to run this himself so i've been given permission to run it alongside my kit - win win :thumb:
Post by: Zilleon on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:23:43
The Colevrak+ kit is definitely the way to go, I'm a Colemak-DHm user, and I'm totally willing to pay a little bit more to make sure other people can get their compatibility too :)
Post by: nuclear_wizard on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:50:30
Post by: psxndc on Mon, 30 September 2019, 11:26:02
...Basically the old person in charge of the colevrak kit is very inactive and unable to run this himself so i've been given permission to run it alongside my kit - win win :thumb:
I was interested in the 40s kit, but as a ColemakDH user, I want to take a minute to personally thank you for adding this to the GB. It's extra work that you didn't have to take on, that benefits a niche community, so as someone in that community, sincerely, "thank you."
Post by: RominRonin on Mon, 30 September 2019, 15:03:55
What are the chances of getting a ‘fn’ key at row 3, 1.75u?
Post by: RominRonin on Tue, 01 October 2019, 03:55:27
Well said. Now, I’m in for at least one of each.
What are the chances of getting a ‘fn’ key at row 3, 1.75u?
And/or ‘fn’ at row 3, 1.25u?
Post by: D3LTA on Tue, 01 October 2019, 07:29:08
Post by: ttom on Tue, 01 October 2019, 16:33:56
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1abBh5xIrPzYMGZmsCzjOZ_DPUvuUL59ldWp8Wcl5or4
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:08:56
Post by: sujikinen on Tue, 01 October 2019, 22:21:13
I may buy 2 or 3 colevrak+ kits to support project,thanks for your work.
Post by: ttom on Wed, 02 October 2019, 15:05:10
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.
probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit
Post by: juliandoucette on Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:32:07
I'll buy at least:
- 1 40s kit
- 2 colevrak kits
if/when it runs.
I type dvorak and I don't have any 40%s yet - so I don't have strong opinions on the kits.
I'll buy two ergo kits if you ever decide to run those.
Post by: nasp on Wed, 02 October 2019, 21:25:18
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.
probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit
Minimal was more geared toward ortho and split spacebar support. I think it'd be good to gauge BoW interest too and if it doesn't add too much to the cost of the kits, add BoW to the already existing WoB kits. GMK usually prefers volume buys and discounts appropriately.
GMK Minimal's "40's" kit
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/t/5c82403deb3931317b5ada96/1552040007337/Kit_-Fixed.jpg?format=2500w)
Post by: ttom on Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:50:23
I know unlikely, but would love a BoW 40's kit to run along side this.
probably won't be happening given how minimal had a 40s kit so most BoW owners interested in 40s should already have the kit
Minimal was more geared toward ortho and split spacebar support. I think it'd be good to gauge BoW interest too and if it doesn't add too much to the cost of the kits, add BoW to the already existing WoB kits. GMK usually prefers volume buys and discounts appropriately.
GMK Minimal's "40's" kitShow Image(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/t/5c82403deb3931317b5ada96/1552040007337/Kit_-Fixed.jpg?format=2500w)
I already tried polling this and around 50% of the people said they would also be interested in BoW however I'll make another poll for this tomorrow just to gauge interest with a lot of newcomers in this thread
Post by: harlekein on Wed, 09 October 2019, 05:04:32
1. I strongly dislike WoB.
2. I don't want to buy a full base kit just for the alphas.
A few letters more and we would have a stand alone alpha kit I could use with N9 ortho for example. That I would buy despite my dislike of WoB.
Full Colevrak alpha kit in basically any other color scheme would have my money. GL with GB. I really hope it makes MOQ.
Post by: MinaDarsh on Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:06:47
Edit: Not using it myself, but who knows, maybe one day, but maybe add two extra keys for Solemak (https://kennetchaz.github.io/symmetric-typing/solemak.html)?
Would need only a non-homing F and a 1.5U (Semi-)Colon key for it.
Super niche maybe, but figured I'd at least bring it out there just in case.
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 09 October 2019, 19:25:05
I would support Colevrak, but this is stopping me for two reasons:
1. I strongly dislike WoB.
2. I don't want to buy a full base kit just for the alphas.
A few letters more and we would have a stand alone alpha kit I could use with N9 ortho for example. That I would buy despite my dislike of WoB.
Full Colevrak alpha kit in basically any other color scheme would have my money. GL with GB. I really hope it makes MOQ.
"A few letters more" is an understatement. A standalone Colevrak+ kit would need 40 additional keycaps. Dvorak uses "only" 24 QWERTY keycaps, the fewest of the alternate layouts supported by this kit.
QWERTY keycaps used by each layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/DkObBU7.png)
The bottom half of this chart shows which QWERTY keycaps each alternative layout uses. The fully-white columns are unique to QWERTY.
(https://i.imgur.com/pMAo4NA.png)
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 09 October 2019, 20:02:38
Post by: harlekein on Fri, 11 October 2019, 05:08:14
"A few letters more" is an understatement. A standalone Colevrak+ kit would need 40 additional keycaps. Dvorak uses "only" 24 QWERTY keycaps, the fewest of the alternate layouts supported by this kit.
You are completely right. I had it wrong in my head and looked back at the previous topic. It amounted to 33 keys. I guess with the additional layouts it comes to 40.
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:49:41
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:10:48
Post by: ttom on Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:14:08
TL;DR:
- 1.50 backspace in 40s, kit most likely final
- colevrak kit finalised
- no BoW / ergo support
- renders soon™
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 11 October 2019, 09:41:27
Post by: ttom on Fri, 11 October 2019, 10:03:05
Obviously no date is set yet, but do you have a rough idea when you're looking to run this? In a couple months? Mid next year?
Best case scenario, early next year. If not that then some time in April-May. Really depends on whether the geekhack mods will let me post another GB before my current one has finished, as the one I have on right now will only be shipping around April at the latest I believe.
Post by: RominRonin on Fri, 11 October 2019, 13:24:17
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Post by: jagger27 on Fri, 11 October 2019, 14:41:43
Thanks for taking the reins on this. I really don't have the time/patience.
Post by: harlekein on Mon, 14 October 2019, 09:18:50
I'm going to pass on the gmk WoB which is on drop right now.
Same. I think I will get in on this Colevrak buy to support it and will get the rest of the alphas later.
Post by: MinaDarsh on Wed, 16 October 2019, 06:26:13
Some 40s have a split spacebar, with some having a 1U key or two in the middle, and in the case of Orthos, most of the bottom row keys are used with one's thumbs.
So perhaps an upside down cast Lower/Raise button and some other options could proof beneficial.
Just something I was wondering, not sure if it's too late for that now, but think about it. (Although it might become a 40s++ by then, heh.)
Post by: ttom on Wed, 16 October 2019, 08:22:50
Pondering with my layout for an upcoming project I was actually wondering, wouldn't upside down R4 keys be handy for those who like inverted bottom row keys?
Some 40s have a split spacebar, with some having a 1U key or two in the middle, and in the case of Orthos, most of the bottom row keys are used with one's thumbs.
So perhaps an upside down cast Lower/Raise button and some other options could proof beneficial.
Just something I was wondering, not sure if it's too late for that now, but think about it. (Although it might become a 40s++ by then, heh.)
i believe that would require new moulds, and either way i think that that is far too niche to be a worthwhile addition to the kit in all honesty
Post by: MinaDarsh on Wed, 16 October 2019, 16:47:11
i believe that would require new moulds, and either way i think that that is far too niche to be a worthwhile addition to the kit in all honesty
Yeah, 'fraid so, maybe an idea for a kit IC for a really popular set some day.
Post by: ttom on Thu, 17 October 2019, 06:14:19
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
Post by: msting on Thu, 17 October 2019, 06:50:42
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??
Post by: ttom on Thu, 17 October 2019, 19:04:11
I'm definitely in for 1 or 2 Colevrak kits. If a BoW is added, I'll buy one of each. So many GMK IC's just launched in the past few weeks and none have a Colevrak. Gonna try for some KAT GB's that do, once they launch.
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??
i'll need to consult geekhack mods about whether i can do another gb before my current one has shipped - it fully depends on that. at the earliest it would be late this year / early next year, at the latest some time around march-april.
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 17 October 2019, 19:12:31
Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion? Here's my guess:
(https://i.imgur.com/hC9ftlH.png)
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 17 October 2019, 20:40:56
Post by: nasp on Thu, 17 October 2019, 21:53:43
I'm definitely in for 1 or 2 Colevrak kits. If a BoW is added, I'll buy one of each. So many GMK IC's just launched in the past few weeks and none have a Colevrak. Gonna try for some KAT GB's that do, once they launch.
Thanks for running this! Hopefully GB is soon??
i'll need to consult geekhack mods about whether i can do another gb before my current one has shipped - it fully depends on that. at the earliest it would be late this year / early next year, at the latest some time around march-april.
Shouldn't be a problem since lots of other people are running multiple GBs at the moment, especially since it's a keyset. If it was a board that might be different.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 18 October 2019, 05:42:09
Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion? Here's my guess:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hC9ftlH.png)
thanks - i'll get some updated renders soon with this.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 24 October 2019, 21:06:23
Post by: LXVRGS on Fri, 25 October 2019, 22:05:45
Post by: ttom on Mon, 28 October 2019, 05:37:09
Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
Have you considered calling out rows and sizes in the 40s kit to avoid confusion? Here's my guess:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hC9ftlH.png)
updated with this now btw, sorry for the delay
Post by: D3LTA on Mon, 28 October 2019, 07:29:33
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Mon, 28 October 2019, 08:04:47
I may be overlooking something here, but why is R3 escape chosen over something like caps lock or control?R3 escape is default on a plank
Post by: juliandoucette on Mon, 28 October 2019, 11:16:03
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 28 October 2019, 14:52:46
Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
It's probably too late for this GB, but I just learned about Wide mod. Adding an R3 ]} to this Colevrak+ kit - just one more keycap - would support Wide mod on any layout that keeps punctuation in QWERTY locations. (The R2 ' " is already in the kit to support Dvorak.)
(https://i.imgur.com/9vME99j.png)
Post by: sujikinen on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:32:52
Post by: ttom on Tue, 29 October 2019, 06:50:44
I'd appreciate it if there were a 2u left shift in the 40s kit.
Just posted a small update:
- revamped the IC layout
- added renders of finalised kits
- added a few more renders on a keyboard
I will start reaching out to proxies over the coming week ;D
It's probably too late for this GB, but I just learned about Wide mod. Adding an R3 ]} to this Colevrak+ kit - just one more keycap - would support Wide mod on any layout that keeps punctuation in QWERTY locations. (The R2 ' " is already in the kit to support Dvorak.)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9vME99j.png)
I would suggest adding blank keys to 40+s,I think many people have different taste on punctuation's location.
Unfortunately it's a bit too late for this now, I did a lot of community polling and none of these really had any interest (I think one person asked for blanks but that's it).
Post by: ttom on Fri, 08 November 2019, 07:42:39
Post by: MinaDarsh on Fri, 08 November 2019, 09:27:30
small update: just got an eu vendor confirmed, and am now looking for an na one. working to get these both asap so i can get this gb started hopefully before the end of the year
Superb! This is going faster than expected.
And I wonder which EU vendor that possibly could be... ;D
Post by: Nvmbra on Fri, 08 November 2019, 13:17:27
It's a similar situation like the Colevrak set and I'd love to get all CR kits made.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 08 November 2019, 14:27:17
Would it be possible to also run this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101069.0) CR/WS1 R0 + R5 compatibility kit alongside this?
It's a similar situation like the Colevrak set and I'd love to get all CR kits made.
possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.
Post by: Nvmbra on Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:35:48
possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.
I reached out to him on Reddit and Discord, I'll let you know if I hear back from him.
Edit:
(https://i.imgur.com/hbaphyn.png)
Post by: ttom on Fri, 08 November 2019, 17:18:01
possibly. this guy doesn't seem very active on here, so does anyone have his contact on any other platforms? i wouldn't want to steal his kit without him giving me permission.
I reached out to him on Reddit and Discord, I'll let you know if I hear back from him.
Edit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hbaphyn.png)
tysm - i just updated the post ;D
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 08 November 2019, 18:52:37
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Post by: WeathermanKarlos on Fri, 08 November 2019, 19:09:41
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 08 November 2019, 23:17:29
Post by: Nvmbra on Sat, 09 November 2019, 08:00:05
I think the R0/5 extension kit still needs to be updated though with an R0 Delete key and 1800 compatibility from reading through the old thread.
Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99828.0;attach=215081;image)
I think this should be able to make MOQ by itself and the blank relegandable kit might be worth adding too because with so many CR sets I'm sure you can work something out with GMK, should it not reach MOQ.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=99828.0;attach=215083;image)
Everyone should be good with CR for a while after this GB with WoB Hiragana, Icon Mod kit, NordeUK kit and Hangul kit already in production :)
Post by: dorf on Sat, 09 November 2019, 08:37:09
Super happy to see the R0/R5 kit picked up! I know this will probably just piss some people off, but any chance the 1.5u Alt Gr could be changed to Alt, or at least a second one added?
Please leave the Alt Gr in there. Just add another one. And I'm also super happy to see that R0/R5 is moving forward.
Post by: MinaDarsh on Sat, 09 November 2019, 14:50:40
Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?
I second this!
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 09 November 2019, 15:08:17
Also, any chance we could add relegendables too?
I second this!
Relegendables for GMK WoB?!?
That will be an instant classic!
I also want a set.
Post by: ttom on Sun, 10 November 2019, 05:28:20
Post by: ttom on Sun, 10 November 2019, 08:15:51
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 10 November 2019, 15:45:23
Post by: Nvmbra on Mon, 11 November 2019, 10:34:27
(https://i.imgur.com/q47Nrbu.png)
Edit: Or have all Super text keys changed to Meta icon keys.
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 11 November 2019, 11:34:13
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Post by: menuhin on Mon, 11 November 2019, 12:26:51
I voted for blank CR relegendables. I have the F-key version in N9 from SkIIdata. They don't look quite right on boards with F-rows directly above the num row, because the R1 num row is actually high enough to block the legends anyway. Only on boards with seperated F-rows do they make sense, and maybe not even if the case is too high-profile.
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That can be the case when a keyboard does not have enough separator space between the numeral row and the F-row, e.g. unlike the 1800.
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 11 November 2019, 13:52:20
What's the general sentiment on having an R5 1u Meta icon key instead of an R5 1u Super text key?please do notShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/q47Nrbu.png)
Edit: Or have all Super text keys changed to Meta icon keys.
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 12 November 2019, 01:38:41
What's the general sentiment on having an R5 1u Meta icon key instead of an R5 1u Super text key?To quote Giorgio: "No."Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q47Nrbu.png)
Edit: Or have all Super text keys changed to Meta icon keys.
Post by: xanserkx on Tue, 12 November 2019, 04:10:48
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 12 November 2019, 05:26:38
Oh god.. I need this because that 2u and 2.75 spacebar
This is a very nice add-on kit
But if you just need those I heard they still have lots of extra and ready to ship.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100687.0
Post by: CodeMayhem on Tue, 12 November 2019, 09:49:33
Post by: ttom on Tue, 12 November 2019, 10:18:07
if relegendables happen they should not be apart of the r0 r5 kit. it'll price ppl out.
sorry if there was any confusion. if they're included that's not the plan, they'd be ran all r1 and separately as in skiidata
Post by: ttom on Thu, 14 November 2019, 08:43:09
also added two proposed relegendable kits, right now it's looking like i'll only do the blank one if anything but nothing is final.
Post by: Zurg Eon on Thu, 14 November 2019, 09:51:28
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 14 November 2019, 10:13:16
- Relegendables, Yes please. I would be game for both options :thumb:
Post by: Nvmbra on Thu, 14 November 2019, 10:40:42
also added two proposed relegendable kits, right now it's looking like i'll only do the blank one if anything but nothing is final.
I'm surprised more people want the blank relegandables given that SkIIdata still has some extra blank relegendables available but the other relegendable kit with F-row pad printed on them has been sold out for a while.
Thanks for trying to make all the kits happen. I'm in for all sets with 2-3 Colevrak kits and I hope both relegendable kits will be offered.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 15 November 2019, 08:14:56
Post by: Nvmbra on Fri, 15 November 2019, 08:44:22
GMK WoB Hiragana and the GMK WoB/BoW Icon extension kit ran recently with icon mod support. So there's atleast 700 WoB sets with icon mods from these alone plus more from other previous runs.
Of course a majority of those who bought them don't use Colemak or Dvorak but I think it'd be nice to have the option to go for a uniform icon mod look.
Edit:
An R5 1.5u Function key would also appreciated for the compatibility kit. On WKL layouts they're popular and a lot of recent kits had them included.
Post by: RETURNISO on Fri, 15 November 2019, 08:58:11
also added two proposed relegendable kits, right now it's looking like i'll only do the blank one if anything but nothing is final.
I'm surprised more people want the blank relegandables given that SkIIdata still has some extra blank relegendables available but the other relegendable kit with F-row pad printed on them has been sold out for a while.
Thanks for trying to make all the kits happen. I'm in for all sets with 2-3 Colevrak kits and I hope both relegendable kits will be offered.
Orange legends only go well with few options imo and black is back :cool:
Post by: NRbigfoot on Fri, 15 November 2019, 09:43:07
Post by: ttom on Fri, 15 November 2019, 09:46:57
+1 for f13
had a couple people asking for this. if interested (or not) please fill out this form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScUhbYi_GYvRkSukfkCtbyKAzkrFTcKuEZO3Zd2kLwebk_aOw/viewform?usp=sf_link
Post by: regionfree on Sat, 16 November 2019, 07:27:14
Post by: ttom on Sat, 16 November 2019, 13:25:53
Post by: ttom on Sat, 16 November 2019, 13:26:13
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 16 November 2019, 14:45:34
Post by: ttom on Mon, 18 November 2019, 12:05:16
...that mean F13 is in? Hope so.
yes
Post by: Zurg Eon on Fri, 22 November 2019, 17:27:25
Post by: ttom on Sat, 23 November 2019, 18:00:39
Post by: Zurg Eon on Sat, 23 November 2019, 18:16:40
Post by: ttom on Mon, 25 November 2019, 17:34:01
Relegendables isn't happening?
no - they didn't do particularly well in skiidata and there wasn't really enough interest to make it worth putting them in here
Post by: Zurg Eon on Mon, 25 November 2019, 19:18:19
Relegendables isn't happening?
no - they didn't do particularly well in skiidata and there wasn't really enough interest to make it worth putting them in here
That's OK. I ordered Skiidata blank relegendables yesterday. Planning on using with GMK Dark. Same grey :thumb:
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 25 November 2019, 21:12:40
Post by: Yakbats on Tue, 26 November 2019, 14:34:13
Post by: uood5 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 21:32:54
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Post by: DJSwayde on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:06:05
Post by: RominRonin on Thu, 28 November 2019, 01:07:48
Unless the kits are final, final, what are the chances of adding a row 5 UP arrow to the R0/R5 kit? It's probably as esoteric as it gets, but I have a couple of boards with all four arrow keys next to each other on the bottom row.
I'm not too expectant of a positive answer, I'm almost certain that moulds do not exist for that key. But I have to ask ;)
Post by: ttom on Thu, 28 November 2019, 07:50:03
Count me in!
Interested in the R0/R5 kit.
Update looks really good.
thanks for the support <3
ah frick now I've found a WoB colevrak extension imma have to get it, have you got a mailing list or something to notify me when this goes live?
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when it gets closer to gb date i'll be posting more frequently on reddit and will announce on here far in advance. the gb period will be around a month so even if you're very infrequently on here there's not much chance you'll miss it.
Great work on all the kits @tvaro, thanks for accommodating so many esoteric requests, especially in the Colevrak+ kit.
Unless the kits are final, final, what are the chances of adding a row 5 UP arrow to the R0/R5 kit? It's probably as esoteric as it gets, but I have a couple of boards with all four arrow keys next to each other on the bottom row.
I'm not too expectant of a positive answer, I'm almost certain that moulds do not exist for that key. But I have to ask ;)
thanks <3 unfortunately all kits are final and have been sent to gmk for quotes now
Post by: FRANCO on Sat, 30 November 2019, 10:45:14
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 30 November 2019, 14:17:46
Post by: The Rhymenocerus on Thu, 12 December 2019, 01:45:21
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 18 December 2019, 11:07:44
Post by: Visionaire on Thu, 02 January 2020, 21:37:13
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 02 January 2020, 21:44:42
Post by: CherryTeam on Fri, 03 January 2020, 01:21:11
Post by: Robosculpts on Fri, 03 January 2020, 10:16:34
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:24:45
In for the 40's kit. Question about the r0 and 5, is there no R5 1u keys or r5 up arrow? Was hoping to put a row 5 on my Preonic.
the time to get that included would have been last month, the kits got finalized.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:53:30
When are we getting quotes?
GMK is out of office until the 7th, so we've got to wait for that. The reason for all the delay is that I'm helping a friend out and letting him run a little WoB set in the same production run (completely separate to this though), which has added some complications. I'm ideally going for a Q1 2020 GB still nonetheless.
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 03 January 2020, 15:11:58
...I'm helping a friend out and letting him run a little WoB set in the same production run (completely separate to this though), ...
*rubbing hands together* go on....
Post by: ttom on Sat, 04 January 2020, 16:43:37
- added F13 to the R0/R5 render, it was in the KLE originally but missed in the previous render
- added R3 ]} to Colevrak+
- removed hangul B from 40s+
Post by: RominRonin on Mon, 13 January 2020, 15:17:27
Post by: ideus on Mon, 13 January 2020, 15:52:40
Post by: ttom on Wed, 22 January 2020, 06:29:16
Should I keep this in my 20's budget?
Yes
Got quotes from GMK this morning + getting pricing sorted out ASAP :thumb:
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 January 2020, 07:23:35
Should I keep this in my 20's budget?
Yes
Got quotes from GMK this morning + getting pricing sorted out ASAP :thumb:
Awesome. Should the space bars be concave?
Post by: ttom on Wed, 22 January 2020, 07:25:35
Should I keep this in my 20's budget?
Yes
Got quotes from GMK this morning + getting pricing sorted out ASAP :thumb:
Awesome. Should the space bars be concave?
all spacebars in the set are convex
Post by: bigapplepietart on Wed, 22 January 2020, 08:31:46
Post by: ideus on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:29:18
Should I keep this in my 20's budget?
Yes
Got quotes from GMK this morning + getting pricing sorted out ASAP :thumb:
Awesome. Should the space bars be concave?
all spacebars in the set are convex
My bad. That is what I meant. Thank you.
Post by: ttom on Wed, 22 January 2020, 16:07:10
Hoping this one comes to life, primarily for the R0 an R5 kit. Looking forward to the GB!
Thanks!
On that note - for those less familiar with R0 and R5, Abec just drew up a better render of what it looks like:
(https://i.imgur.com/kG3UnKt.jpg)
Post by: Robosculpts on Wed, 22 January 2020, 16:13:17
Post by: eskimojo on Wed, 22 January 2020, 16:21:39
Where can I find r5 spacebars to go with the kit?R5 bottom rows still use r4 spacebars, i believe.
Post by: Robosculpts on Wed, 22 January 2020, 16:48:06
Where can I find r5 spacebars to go with the kit?R5 bottom rows still use r4 spacebars, i believe.
Oh word, thank you.
Post by: dorf on Thu, 23 January 2020, 13:12:39
Hoping this one comes to life, primarily for the R0 an R5 kit. Looking forward to the GB!
Thanks!
On that note - for those less familiar with R0 and R5, Abec just drew up a better render of what it looks like:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kG3UnKt.jpg)
Yes, please.
Post by: alpaone on Thu, 23 January 2020, 17:51:26
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 24 January 2020, 06:05:40
Post by: bobdenard on Fri, 24 January 2020, 19:22:15
Not sure whether or not this is the right thread, but is there any interest in an 1,5u R4 Super/Hyper/Command key as those were neither in WoB, Originative nor Hiragana?
Definitely. Command would be awesome but I would settle for Super.
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Post by: bigapplepietart on Fri, 24 January 2020, 20:59:58
Post by: bobdenard on Sat, 25 January 2020, 03:16:21
As a Mac user, I'm with you! There was a (very) small GB for Command/Option R5 keys ran alongside the GMK Hiragana GB. Not sure if you might be able to score what you're looking for.
Sh*t I didn’t know about that... I’m bummed I missed it.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sat, 25 January 2020, 12:45:14
Post by: tobiasvl on Sat, 25 January 2020, 15:59:29
Post by: Cktenders on Fri, 31 January 2020, 16:05:24
Not sure whether or not this is the right thread, but is there any interest in an 1,5u R4 Super/Hyper/Command key as those were neither in WoB, Originative nor Hiragana?
Yep, adding 1-1.5u R4 Super/Hyper/Meta/Code or Fn would be awesome. Don't have a big preference which.
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 31 January 2020, 19:33:16
Ne Colevrak?
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I don't know, it's a kit that will allways struggle to reach MOQ. How the IC does the following days will determine if I should open the question about that kit.
If I were to make it, the Typist kit would provide layout coverage for Colemak, Colemak DH, Colemak DHM, Dvorak, Workman, Norman, and Carpalx QGMLWY.
(https://i.imgur.com/aqYjSvh.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0)
Anyone want to see Typist in Nautilus 2? Machining the GMK tooling for some of these keys might be easier to achieve with a high-profile set like Nautilus 2. Jump to the thread & voice your support!
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0
Post by: psxndc on Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:18:01
Fellow Colevrak firends,Ne Colevrak?
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I don't know, it's a kit that will allways struggle to reach MOQ. How the IC does the following days will determine if I should open the question about that kit.
If I were to make it, the Typist kit would provide layout coverage for Colemak, Colemak DH, Colemak DHM, Dvorak, Workman, Norman, and Carpalx QGMLWY.
(https://i.imgur.com/aqYjSvh.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0)
Anyone want to see Typist in Nautilus 2? Machining the GMK tooling for some of these keys might be easier to achieve with a high-profile set like Nautilus 2. Jump to the thread & voice your support!
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0
The tooling shouldn't be an issue. GMK Pulse supported Colevrak with some variants (not sure if it was full Colevrak+) so the molds are already made. The issue is just hitting MOQ and GB runners taking us into consideration.
Imma be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the Nautilus 2 colors, but if Z runs Typist, I'll buy it just to show my support.
Post by: ttom on Sun, 02 February 2020, 08:45:04
Fellow Colevrak firends,Ne Colevrak?
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I don't know, it's a kit that will allways struggle to reach MOQ. How the IC does the following days will determine if I should open the question about that kit.
If I were to make it, the Typist kit would provide layout coverage for Colemak, Colemak DH, Colemak DHM, Dvorak, Workman, Norman, and Carpalx QGMLWY.
(https://i.imgur.com/aqYjSvh.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0)
Anyone want to see Typist in Nautilus 2? Machining the GMK tooling for some of these keys might be easier to achieve with a high-profile set like Nautilus 2. Jump to the thread & voice your support!
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104475.0
The tooling shouldn't be an issue. GMK Pulse supported Colevrak with some variants (not sure if it was full Colevrak+) so the molds are already made. The issue is just hitting MOQ and GB runners taking us into consideration.
Imma be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the Nautilus 2 colors, but if Z runs Typist, I'll buy it just to show my support.
Only moulds that don't exist right now are R2 M and R3 ].
Little update: got EU pricing sorted and talking to NK at some point next week to do out NA pricing and a get GB date. For Colevrak+ the MOQ will be 100 so this should be able to make it :thumb:
Post by: psxndc on Sun, 02 February 2020, 09:20:03
Post by: RominRonin on Sun, 02 February 2020, 10:12:14
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak+ kit, and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:05:40
I’m willing to buy multiple colevrak+ kits if it helps getting this over the line.Same here, especially with the constant reruns of WoB on drop for cheap.
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak, kit and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
Post by: RominRonin on Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:06:55
I’m willing to buy multiple colevrak+ kits if it helps getting this over the line.Same here, especially with the constant reruns of WoB on drop for cheap.
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak, kit and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
I don’t own a set yet, I keep having nightmares about them never being offered again...
Nightmares
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:13:40
i got you famI’m willing to buy multiple colevrak+ kits if it helps getting this over the line.Same here, especially with the constant reruns of WoB on drop for cheap.
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak, kit and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
I don’t own a set yet, I keep having nightmares about them never being offered again...
Nightmares
(https://i.imgur.com/mQMZH55.png)
Post by: ttom on Sun, 02 February 2020, 13:17:26
I emailed drop last month asking when it would be back and I was told it would be in a couple months because of GMK delays. So you’ll have plenty of time to get your hands on a set while you wait for this to be produced :)i got you famI’m willing to buy multiple colevrak+ kits if it helps getting this over the line.Same here, especially with the constant reruns of WoB on drop for cheap.
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak, kit and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
I don’t own a set yet, I keep having nightmares about them never being offered again...
NightmaresShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/mQMZH55.png)
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 02 February 2020, 14:25:00
Post by: Pylon on Sun, 02 February 2020, 14:26:35
Post by: RETURNISO on Sun, 02 February 2020, 14:34:53
would look neat and be special for the add-on kit :)
And lets go! :p
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edit.
would it be possible to have a higher resolution of the that row profile render, very contemporary clean wall paper :cool:
Post by: CodeMayhem on Sun, 02 February 2020, 19:23:49
I’m willing to buy multiple colevrak+ kits if it helps getting this over the line.Same here, especially with the constant reruns of WoB on drop for cheap.
I recently got my GMK pulse and colevrak, kit and having that in front of me just increases my desire to own the WOB variant that mich more.
i plan on getting 3 or 4 depending on the price.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 03 February 2020, 09:27:08
Post by: ttom on Mon, 03 February 2020, 15:16:36
Just a quick announcement of 2 more vendors that'll be bringing these sets to you:
deskhero.ca for Canada
dailyclack.com for Oceania
Post by: snelltrail on Mon, 03 February 2020, 17:05:36
Hi all, should be able to get the ball rolling here soon.
Just a quick announcement of 2 more vendors that'll be bringing these sets to you:
deskhero.ca for Canada
dailyclack.com for Oceania
Stoked to see Daily Clack confirmed. I sort of always just assume DC will be our vendor for anything haha, didn't actually realize it wasn't official yet!
Post by: ttom on Mon, 03 February 2020, 18:08:33
(https://i.imgur.com/c1YI8kB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/TryOOvK.png)
In case you are interested, the GB for Zhuyin is live here right now: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104508
Post by: bigapplepietart on Tue, 04 February 2020, 20:13:01
Hi all, should be able to get the ball rolling here soon.
Just a quick announcement of 2 more vendors that'll be bringing these sets to you:
deskhero.ca for Canada
dailyclack.com for Oceania
Thrilled to see a Canadian vendor on board for the GB! Makes shipping and taxes a whole lot easier.
Post by: ttom on Wed, 12 February 2020, 11:11:42
The pricing for each kit is as follows:
EU: mykeyboard.eu (http://mykeyboard.eu)
R0/R5: 54 EUR
40s+: 44 EUR
Colevrak+: 50 EUR
NA: novelkeys.xyz (http://novelkeys.xyz)
R0/R5: 55 USD
40s+: 45 USD
Colevrak+: 52 USD
OCE: dailyclack.com (http://dailyclack.com)
R0/R5: 90 AUD
40s+: 74 AUD
Colevrak+: 85 AUD
CA: deskhero.ca (http://deskhero.ca)
R0/R5: 77 CAD
40s+: 63 CAD
Colevrak+: 73 CAD
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 12 February 2020, 11:13:37
Here we go! The GB will run from Monday 23rd March to Friday 24th April!Bless up, I'm looking to get 2 colevrak kits and and an R0/R5 kit
The pricing for each kit is as follows:
EU: mykeyboard.eu (http://EU: mykeyboard.eu)
R0/R5: 54 EUR
40s+: 44 EUR
Colevrak+: 50 EUR
NA: novelkeys.xyz (http://NA: novelkeys.xyz)
R0/R5: 55 USD
USD 40s+: 45 USD
Colevrak+: 52 USD
OCE: dailyclack.com (http://OCE: dailyclack.com)
R0/R5: 90 AUD
40s+: 74 AUD
Colevrak+: 85 AUD
CA: deskhero.ca (http://CA: deskhero.ca)
R0/R5: 77 CAD
40s+: 63 CAD
Colevrak+: 73 CAD
Post by: Obamas Mama on Wed, 12 February 2020, 11:20:37
Post by: dorf on Wed, 12 February 2020, 11:47:06
Here we go! The GB will run from Monday 23rd March to Friday 24th April!
The pricing for each kit is as follows:
EU: mykeyboard.eu (http://mykeyboard.eu)
R0/R5: 54 EUR
40s+: 44 EUR
Colevrak+: 50 EUR
NA: novelkeys.xyz (http://novelkeys.xyz)
R0/R5: 55 USD
USD 40s+: 45 USD
Colevrak+: 52 USD
OCE: dailyclack.com (http://dailyclack.com)
R0/R5: 90 AUD
40s+: 74 AUD
Colevrak+: 85 AUD
CA: deskhero.ca (http://deskhero.ca)
R0/R5: 77 CAD
40s+: 63 CAD
Colevrak+: 73 CAD
Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
Post by: Pylon on Wed, 12 February 2020, 12:33:02
Post by: psxndc on Thu, 13 February 2020, 01:37:03
Post by: ideus on Thu, 13 February 2020, 07:25:38
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Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Thu, 13 February 2020, 07:55:36
Post by: saesh on Thu, 13 February 2020, 08:46:17
Post by: RominRonin on Fri, 14 February 2020, 02:50:11
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
This is my reaction.
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 14 February 2020, 06:44:30
Post by: ttom on Fri, 14 February 2020, 09:54:12
Assuming all the moqs are 100
GMK gave us a quote with all of them @ 150, but we’re checking to see if this is right. I’m pretty sure it should be R0/R5 at 150 and the rest at 100. I’ll update the post when this gets confirmed.
A friend will be running another kit in the same production and GMK told him it would mean 100 MOQ - his is being bought out and is independent to these otherwise.
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:13:54
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:21:03
Any thoughs of doing a classic beige version of this in the far off future? AFAIK that colorway almost as ubiquitous as WoB.
That'd be great for me.
There was a 9009 40% kit ran by TheVan Keyboards in 2018, which has the same colors as classic beige. Maybe The Key Company could run it in the future.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:26:29
Any thoughs of doing a classic beige version of this in the far off future? AFAIK that colorway almost as ubiquitous as WoB.
That'd be great for me.
There was a 9009 40% kit ran by TheVan Keyboards in 2018, which has the same colors as classic beige. Maybe The Key Company could run it in the future.
Given how 9009 R3 just ran with R5 bottom row and a 40s kit I don’t really see the need to be honest
Post by: equalunique on Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:59:08
Yeah, 9009 R3 had all of that. One thing it didn't have was a Colevrak/Typist kit. ;)Any thoughs of doing a classic beige version of this in the far off future? AFAIK that colorway almost as ubiquitous as WoB.
That'd be great for me.
There was a 9009 40% kit ran by TheVan Keyboards in 2018, which has the same colors as classic beige. Maybe The Key Company could run it in the future.
Given how 9009 R3 just ran with R5 bottom row and a 40s kit I don’t really see the need to be honest
But also, 9009 R3 changed modifier legend alignment, so a 9009 R3 40s kit isn't perfectly backwards compatible with either previous 9009 kits or other classic beige style sets.
Mind-blowingly, the 9009 R3 kit was also missing a R4/R5 "Fn" key, which is part of the default Planck keymap. There is one render of 9009 R3 on a Let's Split out there and it's comical to see them use 2x "Code" or "System" or whatever keys they had to put on the bottom left side, because the "Fn" key was missing.
The original 9009 ortho kit (I bought one from DixieMech) was far superior to the 9009 R3 one, both in the variety of legends, and accented modifier keys offered. It seems to me there are people who specifically avoided 9009 R3 because of those shortcomings.
Post by: RominRonin on Fri, 14 February 2020, 11:01:43
Given how 9009 R3 just ran with R5 bottom row and a 40s kit I don’t really see the need to be honestColevrak+ would work for me in classic retro beige.
Either way, with these prices, I’m definitely in for multiple kits of the wob colevrak+ kit, possibly also of the 40s kit too.
Post by: ttom on Fri, 14 February 2020, 18:03:22
Yeah, 9009 R3 had all of that. One thing it didn't have was a Colevrak/Typist kit. ;)Any thoughs of doing a classic beige version of this in the far off future? AFAIK that colorway almost as ubiquitous as WoB.
That'd be great for me.
There was a 9009 40% kit ran by TheVan Keyboards in 2018, which has the same colors as classic beige. Maybe The Key Company could run it in the future.
Given how 9009 R3 just ran with R5 bottom row and a 40s kit I don’t really see the need to be honest
But also, 9009 R3 changed modifier legend alignment, so a 9009 R3 40s kit isn't perfectly backwards compatible with either previous 9009 kits or other classic beige style sets.
Mind-blowingly, the 9009 R3 kit was also missing a R4/R5 "Fn" key, which is part of the default Planck keymap. There is one render of 9009 R3 on a Let's Split out there and it's comical to see them use 2x "Code" or "System" or whatever keys they had to put on the bottom left side, because the "Fn" key was missing.
The original 9009 ortho kit (I bought one from DixieMech) was far superior to the 9009 R3 one, both in the variety of legends, and accented modifier keys offered. It seems to me there are people who specifically avoided 9009 R3 because of those shortcomings.
WoB had none of these, whereas 9009 R3 just had a few small nitpicks with the keys as it seems - nowhere enough reason to warrant 40s or R0 kits in my opinion.
On the other hand, colevrak+ might be an option but let’s see how this goes first. It’s pretty niche so even 100 MOQ might be a bit of a stretch here in my opinion, but I’m confident this’ll be produced regardless though.
Post by: sujikinen on Fri, 14 February 2020, 21:13:34
I am also interested in beige version of Colevrak+.
everybody please show your love to kits on first day of GB.
this would help for those who hesitate to place their order
and give confidence to cross the MOQ.
Post by: bigapplepietart on Sat, 15 February 2020, 09:20:48
Post by: RominRonin on Wed, 19 February 2020, 03:50:40
If it encourages people to decide to join, I think it's worth stating that I don't have a GMK WOB set yet, and I'm planning on buying in, because I'm confident that it will become available again, at least on drop.com.
But in case doubt still remains, why don't you go over to the WOB page on drop.com and request the drop (https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set/talk) (big 'REQUEST' button on the right as you scroll down) - the more requests, the sooner it will be available again, and there's the added bonus of being notified when it returns!
Post by: ttom on Wed, 19 February 2020, 04:07:55
I had a jovial exchange with user stoffelduss on another thread, it seems several potential buyers may be put off by the fact that GMK WOB is not available *right now*.
If it encourages people to decide to join, I think it's worth stating that I don't have a GMK WOB set yet, and I'm planning on buying in, because I'm confident that it will become available again, at least on drop.com.
But in case doubt still remains, why don't you go over to the WOB page on drop.com and request the drop (https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set/talk) (big 'REQUEST' button on the right as you scroll down) - the more requests, the sooner it will be available again, and there's the added bonus of being notified when it returns!
Thanks <3
Furthermore, I reached out to drop around a month ago and asked about this. This is what I was told:
(https://i.imgur.com/3cvDPwm.png)
GMK has a pretty big lead time right now (somewhere between 20 and 30 weeks - possibly less with the upgrades they're making though), so I'm absolutely positive you'll be able to get your hands on a set of WoB before these ship :thumb:
Post by: Shadohhh on Sun, 23 February 2020, 17:49:51
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:23:48
Keep going!
Post by: RominRonin on Tue, 10 March 2020, 16:16:14
I’ve ordered mine already, go and get yours too!
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 10 March 2020, 16:43:06
Ladies and gentlenerds: GMK WOB is live on drop.com: https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set?utm_source=appshare&referer=XKT9T2Just ordered my second set, as I had purchased this set when this Colevrak IC first became a thing.
I’ve ordered mine already, go and get yours too!
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This drop will constantly happen. It's WoB. It's classic and goes with everything. Nobody should worry about not having a full set for when this extension kit drops. Worst case scenario you just wait 4-6 months for massdrop to run GMK WoB again.
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Tue, 10 March 2020, 21:49:51
Do you have any plan to add BoW ESC keys with height r0?
Post by: ttom on Thu, 12 March 2020, 13:37:19
You know, Drop WoB added BoW accent ESC in the base kit. (This morning!!)
Do you have any plan to add BoW ESC keys with height r0?
kits are final, sorry
Post by: ttom on Wed, 18 March 2020, 13:28:45
Also - my friend nvmbra is running a kit alongside this which will go into the same production run but otherwise have no real affiliation with this. here's the form, which is open from now already and will be linked in the gb thread too for anybody that's interested. he's buying these out and will definitely get produced - more information is in the form.
https://forms.gle/b3WtEmcYpJ9JxSUE7
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 19 March 2020, 19:55:19
Post by: ttom on Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:20:46
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105239.0
Locking this now, should be going live on proxies tomorrow and will update links as they go up