Author Topic: [Old] Keepers of the Faith Mission Statement - GH Wiki (Read 236844 times)

cultofjosh · « **Reply #100 on:** Fri, 18 April 2014, 12:27:29 »

I doubt confluence would work well with simple machines. It would also have heavier system requirements, it's a big java app. It was more of an example of what else could be out there...even in the commercial world of software.

I did come across 1 interesting wiki after a couple more searches. It's called docuwiki. I remember looking at it briefly years ago, I ruled it out because I was set on having a wiki that stores its data in mysql - it uses files on the file system. But it does look incredibly easy to integrate its authentication module with a simple machines database (or any database for that matter)...and the maintainers claim flat files are an advantage for scalability.

https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:authmysql

Anyway, as long as whatever you guys are doing has a good search feature and the information is easy to find, it'll be a great information repository, which is really all that's important IMHO.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #101 on:** Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:09:03 »

I've PMed some people about the Confluence plugin. I'm intrigued by that. Docuwiki still has some syntax to learn that isn't bbcode/Markdown so I'm not thrilled with that idea. I'm looking into it more

. Thanks for the suggestions.

cultofjosh · « **Reply #102 on:** Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:09:40 »

Oh, I didn't mean to imply there's an integration with confluence. Sorry for the confusion! Or did you find something?

If someone here is a java wizard, I think you can still develop plugins with the plugin SDK even without the confluence source code (though don't quote me on that.)

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #103 on:** Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:12:02 »

Oh...I'm actually horrible with code which is why I sent out PMs. I need to ask people who do know like mkawa

davkol · « **Reply #104 on:** Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:34:30 »

Dokuwiki supports Markdown with a plugin.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #105 on:** Sat, 03 May 2014, 09:35:12 »

There was a discussion in the clack wiki thread that I'd thought I'd link here in case there's been a change in the tides. Previously it seemed that there was no interest in helping work on the wiki.

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sat, 03 May 2014, 09:28:38

And that goes for anyone else. While the mediawiki is up, you can get am account and start helping. All I ever see is people complain about the wiki going away. Don't want it to? Prove to me that it's useful and viable for geekhack. Yes I am the head off the wikiteam/Keepers of the faith so I can ask the admins and mods to keep the status quo. And of course I'm sure the team will let me and everyone else know their opinion as as well.

esoomenona · « **Reply #106 on:** Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:43:13 »

Maybe a list of wiki articles that have been updated since this was introduced would be warranted.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #107 on:** Sun, 18 May 2014, 02:48:42 »

For some reason, I'm not getting info when I try and see the most recent changes in the Wiki. I will say that if I recall correctly that the last huge rash of changes was when I was working on the Clack Wiki.

I've updated the second post to better reflect what the team has been working on.

domoaligato · « **Reply #108 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:09:54 »

I would like to build/maintain a professional services area of the wiki.
Articles/Guides explaining what a mod is and how to do it can link to people that will do the mods for you etc etc.
Please let me know if your interested after the wiki is in place.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #109 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:15:44 »

Those sound great! You can start those threads now in Post Wiki Workshop and I'll make sure they get moved into the new Wiki. And we can migrate your thread that you have now for Professional Services over as well!

domoaligato · « **Reply #110 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:43:10 »

Can you sticky it to classified after you move it?

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #111 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:48:42 »

I don't know but I can always sticky a link in the Classifieds with a link to the Wiki page.

domoaligato · « **Reply #112 on:** Wed, 21 May 2014, 20:05:03 »

in that case let me learn and buildup the new page first.

terrpn · « **Reply #113 on:** Fri, 04 July 2014, 10:20:33 »

just caught up to this-- big task guys

thanks for taking on the endeavor.................hopefully after you guys get it out and running we won't lose like when GH crashed a couple years ago

that was pretty brutal for a while $:-\$

whatever us dweebs can provide to help let us know

one thing i have enjoyed is a few of you guys, GH'rs have uploaded video and audio relating to particular switch sounds and effects. that would be pretty informative if we could round that out even further; example cpt and his KS with blue alps, model m's (bolt modded - non bolt modded) and so forth...........

there is a lot already available on youtube, etc.

just a suggestion-- nothing more

oledome · « **Reply #114 on:** Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:37:27 »

I have a suggestion: open up editing the wiki to the userbase, moderate it, keep certain pages locked down and get it growing. There would be some quality issues, but those could be ironed out I think that's better than having massive voids. Even stub entries with external links would be better than no page at all.

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #115 on:** Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:42:09 »

Quote from: oledome on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:37:27

I have a suggestion: open up editing the wiki to the userbase, moderate it, keep certain pages locked down and get it growing. There would be some quality issues, but those could be ironed out I think that's better than having massive voids. Even stub entries with external links would be better than no page at all.

I think they've given up on the wiki, most people use the one over at deskthority.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #116 on:** Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:48:10 »

Before I left the Curator posting, I was told that rkinze was ready to roll something out. Jdcarpe and the admin/mod team would know better than I at this point.

nubbinator · « **Reply #117 on:** Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:53:25 »

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:42:09

Quote from: oledome on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:37:27
I have a suggestion: open up editing the wiki to the userbase, moderate it, keep certain pages locked down and get it growing. There would be some quality issues, but those could be ironed out I think that's better than having massive voids. Even stub entries with external links would be better than no page at all.

I think they've given up on the wiki, most people use the one over at deskthority.

It would still be nice to have our own that could be edited.

oledome · « **Reply #118 on:** Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:29:45 »

Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:53:25

It would still be nice to have our own that could be edited.

It would. GH has a solid community and double the users (I just made this up from the online accounts on both sites right now), we'd make short work of a community wiki and I think it would be good for the community. We could make it a GeekHack wiki in the sense that there can be pages about the community included - such as for Brobots etc.

Any mods or admins reading this thread? I'll have to check that list you made CPTBadAss.

rowdy · « **Reply #119 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10 »

As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #120 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28 »

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10

As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

rowdy · « **Reply #121 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:03:16 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10
As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

Is Curator the same as Keeper?

I read somewhere that the Keepers had been disbanded.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #122 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:05:29 »

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:03:16

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10
As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

Is Curator the same as Keeper?

I read somewhere that the Keepers had been disbanded.

Yes, the name was changed from Keepers of the Faith to Curators. I am the last one, as the rest quit.

I may be moving to a different staff position, since the Curator role can probably be rolled into another job or team.

rowdy · « **Reply #123 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:06:52 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:05:29

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:03:16
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10
As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

Is Curator the same as Keeper?

I read somewhere that the Keepers had been disbanded.

Yes, the name was changed from Keepers of the Faith to Curators. I am the last one, as the rest quit.

I may be moving to a different staff position, since the Curator role can probably be rolled into another job or team.

Then my question still stands (although perhaps slightly pre-emptive) - should this thread no longer be sticky?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #124 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:27:59 »

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:06:52

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:05:29
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:03:16
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10
As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

Is Curator the same as Keeper?

I read somewhere that the Keepers had been disbanded.

Yes, the name was changed from Keepers of the Faith to Curators. I am the last one, as the rest quit.

I may be moving to a different staff position, since the Curator role can probably be rolled into another job or team.

Then my question still stands (although perhaps slightly pre-emptive) - should this thread no longer be sticky?

Yeah, it will probably be archived with the other Keeper/Curator stuff when that happens.

rowdy · « **Reply #125 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:28:38 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:27:59

Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:06:52
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:05:29
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:03:16
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:01:28
Quote from: rowdy on Thu, 26 March 2015, 21:54:10
As the Keepers have been disbanded (at least for now), should this thread no longer be sticky (for now)?

Ahem...

Is Curator the same as Keeper?

I read somewhere that the Keepers had been disbanded.

Yes, the name was changed from Keepers of the Faith to Curators. I am the last one, as the rest quit.

I may be moving to a different staff position, since the Curator role can probably be rolled into another job or team.

Then my question still stands (although perhaps slightly pre-emptive) - should this thread no longer be sticky?
Yeah, it will probably be archived with the other Keeper/Curator stuff when that happens.

It's a shame. I guess GH just wasn't ready for that kind of thing.

nubbinator · « **Reply #126 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53 »

So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

derezzed · « **Reply #127 on:** Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:19:16 »

[Old] Keepers of the Faith Mission Statement - GH Wiki

If the wiki ever does get revived, I would be DTE (down to edit).

domoaligato · « **Reply #128 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:04:09 »

Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53

So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

This is why I populated the old wiki with the "[Artisan Services] - Directory"
I plan to move it to the new wiki whenever it is available.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #129 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:10:07 »

Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53

So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

What do you think of a "wiki" in this style? This was my effort to present information in a logical way.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #130 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:30:12 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 March 2015, 22:05:29

I may be moving to a different staff position

#hype

davkol · « **Reply #131 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:59:02 »

There's always the Deskthority Wiki, eh.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #132 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:00:24 »

Quote from: davkol on Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:59:02

There's always the Deskthority Wiki, eh.

Yes, and really not much of a need to overlap information, I don't think.

nubbinator · « **Reply #133 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:18:06 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:10:07

Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53
So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

What do you think of a "wiki" in this style? This was my effort to present information in a logical way.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0

It's ok, but it's still missing a lot and some good links. There's also the problem that some of the guides have newer counterparts, some of which are better in some areas maybe worse in others. A proper wiki gives more room to add and adjust things, to make it so people are better informed, and make it so people don't have to go digging through sometimes 50+ pages to find something helpful.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #134 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:28:56 »

Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:18:06

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:10:07
Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53
So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

What do you think of a "wiki" in this style? This was my effort to present information in a logical way.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0

It's ok, but it's still missing a lot and some good links. There's also the problem that some of the guides have newer counterparts, some of which are better in some areas maybe worse in others. A proper wiki gives more room to add and adjust things, to make it so people are better informed, and make it so people don't have to go digging through sometimes 50+ pages to find something helpful.

It wasn't supposed to be all-inclusive. That was just a test of how to organize the information without having 20+ stickies at the top of MST.

What's the point of having a proper wiki, when DT has one? Having the info indexed in a post, and pointing to another thread allows for the information to be thoroughly discussed.

If people want a true wiki, that's fine. I didn't think there was enough interest to get one going.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #135 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:50:45 »

I was always an advocate of updating the DT Wiki to have a "real Wiki" and then having a Wiki entry like what JD has which is more based on making guides. Like how to do a bolt mod for Model Ms.

nubbinator · « **Reply #136 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:57:31 »

I think CPTBadAss better states what I'm trying to say JD. A collection of guides like that is all fine and good, but a wiki with guides is better. In the article, you can point to other threads, but also have a how-to that can be updated or that contains multiple ways of doing something. It's an easier to use and easier to search format.

Not only that, but if and when a photo is no longer valid in a thread, it's gone forever. If you have a wiki, you can update them or host them onsite. It makes for less data loss.

I get what you're saying about the keyboard wiki on DT too, but I also know there has been a lot of frustration with how things get handled there. It would be nice to have the option to update stuff here if we wanted to.

domoaligato · « **Reply #137 on:** Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:55:11 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:10:07

Quote from: nubbinator on Thu, 26 March 2015, 23:06:53
So have we given up on the idea of a Wiki?

What do you think of a "wiki" in this style? This was my effort to present information in a logical way.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69582.0

I would like a actual wiki app that we can all contribute to like these http://www.gamepedia.com/wikis

BlueBär · « **Reply #138 on:** Sun, 24 May 2015, 15:11:01 »

So, about that whole Wiki thing... Is it officially dead? Or as close around the corner as the GH60?

Dihedral · « **Reply #139 on:** Sun, 31 May 2015, 10:44:48 »

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:50:45

I was always an advocate of updating the DT Wiki to have a "real Wiki" and then having a Wiki entry like what JD has which is more based on making guides. Like how to do a bolt mod for Model Ms.

This sounds a good idea. Factual information should be kept separate and distinguished from guides; but both should have a place within a good wiki.

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