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Title: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:02:53
I am considering the next Group Buy. This one is simple, 4 novelty keycaps that feature objects from the first film (the only Matrix film that matters IMHO). The 2 - 1x1's will be DCS Family F Row and the 2 - 1x1.25 will be DCS Family Bottom Row Modifiers:

[attach=1]

All red and blue will be Polycarbonate, like Keypop's:

(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/121864296/max_h-300+max_w-300/TranslucentManaBottle.jpg)(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/128992497/max_h-300+max_w-300/RedCloudyKeycap.jpg)

As for the Black and Green variant, they will be the same dimensions but will feature Glow in the Dark legends:

[attach=2]
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: anoxy on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:10:37
Objects? Anything specific in mind?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 05 May 2014, 21:18:19
Objects? Anything specific in mind?

Red Pill
Blue Pill
White Rabbit
Spoon
EMP Switch
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 06 May 2014, 10:12:11
Sounds interesting!

What will be the base color of the caps? White?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 06 May 2014, 13:36:28
Sounds interesting!

What will be the base color of the caps? White?

Black for all but maybe the EMP switch. It may either be Red Base, or White.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:09:42
I can tell from the overwhelming response that this keycap set may be a bust if I try to do a SP groupbuy. Can anyone tell me why? Is Matrix that old, or is there just no interest?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: anoxy on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:13:44
To be honest, if you didn't tell me prior, I would have no idea that the caps had anything to do with The Matrix. I feel like it would take me a while to make the connection.

I mean, give me a Neo, Morpheus or Trinity face key and you've got a buyer though. Or an Agent Smith cap.

It could be your choice of colors? When I think of the Matrix, I think green.
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Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:26:28
sp has these molds?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:46:37
sp has these molds?

They will when I'm done...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 08 May 2014, 20:47:40
To be honest, if you didn't tell me prior, I would have no idea that the caps had anything to do with The Matrix. I feel like it would take me a while to make the connection.

I mean, give me a Neo, Morpheus or Trinity face key and you've got a buyer though. Or an Agent Smith cap.

It could be your choice of colors? When I think of the Matrix, I think green.

Okay, so the keycaps I really want to see are the Blue Pill and Red Pill...the White Rabbit would be nice too...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 09 May 2014, 17:12:15
extremely interested. I don't know if pbt sublimation might be better. anyway tomorrow I'll send you some ideas if you are interested.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: mashby on Fri, 09 May 2014, 17:20:16
I'd love to see the green on black with the digital rain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain) but that's probably WAY to expensive to even consider.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 09 May 2014, 19:18:27
 I think that a glow in the dark doubleshot of the rabbit would be gnarly and rad, dude
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: RabRhee on Fri, 09 May 2014, 20:21:20
I would be quite interested in these matrix keys. (and the impossible digital rain would be great)

How about taking the Simon Tam glasses from Firefly in a different colour here for a Morpheus thing, or squarer ones for the agents? Other thoughts: Telephones, important parts of the film, from mobiles to bakelite classics, etc, although hard to show as a 'matrix' phone on a key, I guess. How about a deja vu black cat to go with the rabbit? Red leather armchairs? Nm, enough brainstorming from me.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Sat, 10 May 2014, 13:37:36
I would be quite interested in these matrix keys. (and the impossible digital rain would be great)

How about taking the Simon Tam glasses from Firefly in a different colour here for a Morpheus thing, or squarer ones for the agents? Other thoughts: Telephones, important parts of the film, from mobiles to bakelite classics, etc, although hard to show as a 'matrix' phone on a key, I guess. How about a deja vu black cat to go with the rabbit? Red leather armchairs? Nm, enough brainstorming from me.

I am wanting to keep it simple...lol. Working with the Firefly 'caps has made me cross-eyed...I definitely want to try to make these double shots because I want contrast, and not hedge myself into Light PBT keycaps with dark legends...

When I think of the Matrix, I think of Black background with Light contrasting...keeping it simple will likely only be White Rabbit, Red/Blue Pill, and thanks to you, a Deja Vu cat silhouette. Beyond that, the spoon would have been nice, but not necessary. After all "there is NO spoon." I would like to come up with a way to do the electronic rain, not sure how...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 11 June 2014, 18:00:13
Revitalizing this IC because the Firefly keycap GB's were a bust. So...

This one will likely only be for 6 keycaps:

Red Pill
Blue Pill
Bunny
Cat
Glow Bunny
Glow Cat

I will try to update the mock ups soon, so please give me input as to preferred keycap form: DSA, DCS, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 11 June 2014, 20:44:09
What happened to the spoon?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 11 June 2014, 21:40:11
What happened to the spoon?

There is no spoon, remember?!

Seriously, I guess I could include a spoon keycap...so 7 in all! But no more, lol.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 June 2014, 00:43:10
What happened to the spoon?

There is no spoon, remember?!

Seriously, I guess I could include a spoon keycap...so 7 in all! But no more, lol.

Yeah, I remember, and giggled after I sent the post and thought about it for a second.

I only mentioned it as you showed a spoon in an earlier draft of the set.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: AKmalamute on Thu, 12 June 2014, 11:48:08
Kitty cat would have to be the F5 key. "see the page again. Looks mostly like the old page." "Like enough, to be the same page?"

Maybe blue pill on ESC, Red on Pause/Break (side note for the windows users: hit Windows+Break ... I just learned that one a few days ago. In Win7 that's the easiest page to rename your PC ... which I do a lot of, so ...)

If you've got an ANSI-150 layout, the EMP key as your windows key would make sense. Gaming, hit the red button, everything stops ... for a time.
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Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 12 June 2014, 11:51:37
of course this should be the spoon

(http://thebentspoonmag.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/spn2.png)
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Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 June 2014, 16:58:51
of course this should be the spoon

Show Image
(http://thebentspoonmag.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/spn2.png)


Of course you realise that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Thu, 12 June 2014, 17:13:32
of course you realize that there's actually no spoon.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 12 June 2014, 21:42:05
Sadly, unless I can get Matt3o's expertise to help me get the EMP keycap ready, I may not have that one in the set...I am trying to keep this one small and affordable so that maybe it will tip...these are the ideas i have for caps:

Definites:

Red Pill
Blue Pill
White Rabbit
Black Cat
White Rabbit (Glow-in-the-Dark Variant)

Maybe's:
EMP
Spoon
Bent Spoon
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 12 June 2014, 22:06:17
Kitty cat would have to be the F5 key. "see the page again. Looks mostly like the old page." "Like enough, to be the same page?"

Maybe blue pill on ESC, Red on Pause/Break (side note for the windows users: hit Windows+Break ... I just learned that one a few days ago. In Win7 that's the easiest page to rename your PC ... which I do a lot of, so ...)

If you've got an ANSI-150 layout, the EMP key as your windows key would make sense. Gaming, hit the red button, everything stops ... for a time.

I have updated the mock ups. Also, because of copyright infringement, I will need to come up with a name for this Group Buy. Yes, it will be PMK through SP, but we need to make a cool sounding title that says it all...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 June 2014, 22:43:23
No Spoon Collection?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: MrChunky on Fri, 13 June 2014, 00:16:12
Maybe a different design for the bent spoon? At the moment I wouldn't be able to tell off the bat what it is. Maybe something like this:

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/081/2/5/matrix_movie_poster_by_gbindis-d4tkr87.png)

 if the degree of detail permits DS. Or maybe leave only one bend if we need to simplify it.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 01:57:31
This might be EMP

(http://i.imgur.com/kNKtono.png)

but I'm afraid it is still too detailed

also, 1 rabbit is more than enough :)
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 02:00:06
this could be funny

(http://i.imgur.com/03zlYfJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 02:18:22
More experiments.

An alternative take at the deja-vu cat and something that reminds the matrix rain

(http://i.imgur.com/khc91sC.png)

and of course we need a "101" and a "303" keys (PS: text only legends are cheaper!)
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Post by: MrChunky on Fri, 13 June 2014, 03:33:50
The portal cat looks cool  :)) I like it.

Also how about translucent pills? I know there were problems with translucent DS text because it was difficult to read, but if its just a round/ oval pill it could work well and will look awesome on backlit keyboards.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 03:54:46
even though it's not properly "matrix" I would do the pill like this

(http://i.imgur.com/on8BAba.png)

white on blue polycarbonate and white on red polycarbonate are nice ideas
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 08:42:56
This might be EMP

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kNKtono.png)


but I'm afraid it is still too detailed

also, 1 rabbit is more than enough :)

So, one glow in the dark rabbit instead of white, or should I ditch glow in the dark altogether...?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 08:44:30
even though it's not properly "matrix" I would do the pill like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/on8BAba.png)


white on blue polycarbonate and white on red polycarbonate are nice ideas

too much like Dr. Mario...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 08:45:03
This might be EMP

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/kNKtono.png)


but I'm afraid it is still too detailed

also, 1 rabbit is more than enough :)

More experiments.

An alternative take at the deja-vu cat and something that reminds the matrix rain

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/khc91sC.png)


and of course we need a "101" and a "303" keys (PS: text only legends are cheaper!)

Awesome!
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Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 08:46:22
I think there will be no spoon...it is kinda goofy looking. I may just have a blank keycap available to say 'there is NO spoon' lol
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Jumpingmanjim on Fri, 13 June 2014, 09:48:05
A full keyset with matrix glyphs would be incredible.
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:06:10
A full keyset with matrix glyphs would be incredible.

I would hit that :)
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Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:11:23
A full keyset with matrix glyphs would be incredible.

I would hit that :)

I would also hit that  :))
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Krogenar on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:29:25
even though it's not properly "matrix" I would do the pill like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/on8BAba.png)


white on blue polycarbonate and white on red polycarbonate are nice ideas

That design is more unmistakably a pill.

Also, what about making the backspace into Neo bending over backwards, and do a Nyan-cat keycap sort of thing with the numbers row, replacing them with bullets?
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:30:44
Even though it's not exactly the matrix pill, in double should I believe my design is better recognizable than a... well... ellipse.
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Post by: Krogenar on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:38:44
Matrix-Nyan Cat Idea - graphically portrayed.

[attachimg=1]

Please don't make fun of my Photoshop skills, ok? I worked really hard on this.

Oo, also -- three keycaps, one with the silhouette of a redhead, a blonde and a brunette -- cause that's all I see now.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:43:09
Needs two cat caps.
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 10:57:02
ESC should read: "dodge this"
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Post by: mashby on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:00:18
A full keyset with matrix glyphs would be incredible.

If that happens, then I'd recommend doing them in glow-in-the-dark on black.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 11:01:28
A full keyset with matrix glyphs would be incredible.

If that happens, then I'd recommend doing them in glow-in-the-dark on black.  :thumb:

sublimated would be the only option
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Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:36:25
ESC should read: "dodge this"

Cool...

Matrix-Nyan Cat Idea - graphically portrayed.

(Attachment Link)

Please don't make fun of my Photoshop skills, ok? I worked really hard on this.

Oo, also -- three keycaps, one with the silhouette of a redhead, a blonde and a brunette -- cause that's all I see now.

Okay, so I made the pills look more like the pills in the movie, they are gel caps after all...I guess it would be up for debate...
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:43:47
wondering if a stylized neural connector would work

(http://www.scilogs.com/import-data/images/13/matrix_headplug2.jpg)
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Post by: admiralvorian on Fri, 13 June 2014, 14:27:35
I think maybe some chopped hiragana doubleshot neon green on black?

Matt3o,

The EMP design you made is cool, could we do a cap with just two of the lightning bolts?
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Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 13 June 2014, 21:54:58
I'd love to see the green on black with the digital rain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain) but that's probably WAY to expensive to even consider.

Actually, I think I have figured out a way to do it inexpensively. Stay tuned!
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Jumpingmanjim on Sat, 14 June 2014, 04:23:38
There are some matrix glyph fonts on google that we could use. Does anyone know the program that people use to mockup key sets, if so I could make one for a Matrix glyph layout.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Sat, 14 June 2014, 04:26:52
you can't 2-shot a full keyboard with custom legends. It would end up costing you way too much.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 17 June 2014, 19:25:59
Okay, so I managed to get my hands on these pics...

[attach=1]
(without backlighting during daylight)

And then...

[attach=2]
(with backlighting)

I like the gritty nature of the legends myself and I think that it would be cool to offer them in this way as an electric rain variant to the normal novelty set. Please weigh in on this...
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Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 19:32:07
Okay, so I managed to get my hands on these pics...

(Attachment Link)
(without backlighting during daylight)

And then...

(Attachment Link)
(with backlighting)

I like the gritty nature of the legends myself and I think that it would be cool to offer them in this way as an electric rain variant to the normal novelty set. Please weigh in on this...

Ooh I recognise where those are from!

They could look best with green backlighting, being a Matrix theme and everything.

Might have to take my green backlit keyboard back from the guy who is borrowing it :))
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Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 17 June 2014, 20:20:10
even though it's not properly "matrix" I would do the pill like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/on8BAba.png)


white on blue polycarbonate and white on red polycarbonate are nice ideas

You want proper pills...? I got proper pills:

[attach=1]

What do you think?

And this is what they would look like in PolyCarb with White Legends:

[attach=2]

Here is a green PolyCarb with a Black legend just for fun...

[attach=3]
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:42:51
I like the polycarb ones :)
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 18 June 2014, 00:43:19
the dark PC caps are not very much readable...
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Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 19 June 2014, 20:04:59
New mock up image available thanks to Matt3o. This one is good to go and has gotten the SP all clear for Double-Shootability...

As I finish each one and get the okay, I will post each final keycap mock up.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: GenKaan on Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:42:32
Love it, major Matrix fan over here :)

Dont forget about the lady in red!
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Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:44:31
Love it, major Matrix fan over here :)

Dont forget about the lady in red!

Maybe...I'm thinking a Red Stiletto
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 20 June 2014, 10:46:44
I can't believe it was 1999... it seems like yesterday...

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110115203425/matrix/images/1/1d/Pinup_immonen.jpg)
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Post by: Lain1911 on Fri, 20 June 2014, 11:45:22
What happened to the white rabbit :3

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Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:02:10
What happened to the white rabbit :3


There will be a white rabbit, but I will not post the final mockups until SP tells me they are good to go. I don't want to get anyone's hopes about certain designs. I will post it just as soon as I get the nod...
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:32:47
c'mon zero, make us dream.
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Post by: DanielT on Fri, 20 June 2014, 12:44:35
I can't believe it was 1999... it seems like yesterday...

Show Image
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110115203425/matrix/images/1/1d/Pinup_immonen.jpg)


Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

OT: I'm curious how the Matrix caps will look in the final mockup, it's an interesting project
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Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:00:07
Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

indeed I am :) I'm not a comic book freak but I love selected works of selected artists (sin city, v for vendetta, moebius, ...)

if zero is not going to do a full set, I might even consider a Matrix set...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:06:59
Don't tell me you are a comic book fan :D Stuart's work is fantastic,I must read again some of his works.

indeed I am :) I'm not a comic book freak but I love selected works of selected artists (sin city, v for vendetta, moebius, ...)

if zero is not going to do a full set, I might even consider a Matrix set...

Please do...I would rather just do novelty sets...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 20 June 2014, 13:07:48
Matt3o is a full set mastah
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Post by: DanielT on Fri, 20 June 2014, 14:25:52
I have already seen that ;)
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 14:05:26
Just posted final mock ups! I have included three, count them three Geek Hack keycaps. Question: If I make all these keycaps available in one Parent group buy, will we be able to pull off selling 50 of them? If so, the price almost halves...

I need suggestions on how to section this Group Buy up, if necessary.

Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

Please note: All Red, Blue, and Green you see will be Poly Carbonate Transparent plastic. Black and white will be standard ABS.

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Post by: mashby on Mon, 23 June 2014, 15:48:23
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough (http://l.mashby.com/p7Y1) Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 16:52:10
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough (http://l.mashby.com/p7Y1) Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?

Should I? The cost for them all at once is steep until we sell 50...then it goes to half...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 16:53:52
Also, is three Geek Hack keycaps too many?

No. You can never have enough (http://l.mashby.com/p7Y1) Geek Hack keys.  :))

The set looks really nice. Are you going to do this as all one set?

If you could cull this thing back even further what would you get rid of to make it more affordable?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:13:24
I am beginning to think I have too many pills...
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Post by: mashby on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:17:03
I'm not an expert my any means, but the only way I can think of making it more affordable is by dropping a few keys. GEEK HACK keys and Modifiers might be the one's to drop, but folks like matt3o would probably have much more insight than me.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:18:09
I'm not an expert my any means, but the only way I can think of making it more affordable is by dropping a few keys. GEEK HACK keys and Modifiers might be the one's to drop, but folks like matt3o would probably have much more insight than me.

If you could pick only one geekhack key, which would you want?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: AKmalamute on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:18:23
It might work just fine as is. The logical way to split it up (which might not match the way potential collectors are looking at this set when it goes "live") is: mammalian keys in one set, pills (all of them) in another, and GH keys in their own set. Maybe you could mark up the individual sets twenty five cents per key unless they're purchased as the whole set ... that would be reasonable for those who just want more GH keys, and also encourage the fence-riders to push them all over the 50-copy tipping point.

edit: my $0.02: I'd drop the white pills & GH first. All three -- there are precious few polycarbonate keys, but white backgrounds with colors, even in an uncommon plastic, don't shout "hey buy me I'm new" like glow in the dark green.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:20:25
Personally I like the green on black, especially if it is going to be a bright green.

Like mashby says, you cannot have enough GH keys :)

As long as the red and blue pill keys are 1.25x, you could probably drop the other white/red/blue 1x pills.

Gotta keep the white rabbit!  But maybe drop the black cat, if you have to (whilst retaining the green one).
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: mashby on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:24:51
As an alternative theory... having the GH keys mixed in might help boost sales? I don't know how many people collect them like I do, so I can't say so definitely.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 17:28:19
Personally I like the green on black, especially if it is going to be a bright green.

Like mashby says, you cannot have enough GH keys :)

As long as the red and blue pill keys are 1.25x, you could probably drop the other white/red/blue 1x pills.

Gotta keep the white rabbit!  But maybe drop the black cat, if you have to (whilst retaining the green one).

I have to tell you that the Green is not bright green, it is translucent Polycarbonate for gritty backlighting...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 23 June 2014, 19:45:30
See the updated mocks section:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57916.0
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: strafe on Tue, 24 June 2014, 01:08:11
I hope the poly on black works out ok. It's very difficult to see the poly on black bumblebee caps without backlighting.

It would be awesome if you could do translucent green on black keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 24 June 2014, 13:02:15
I hope the poly on black works out ok. It's very difficult to see the poly on black bumblebee caps without backlighting.

It would be awesome if you could do translucent green on black keycaps.

Okay, so changing yet again...waiting for SP to okay my current pitch. I am scaling this thing way back and changing to something more readable.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:12:31
I am considering the next Group Buy. This one is simple, a few novelty keycaps that feature objects from the first film (the only one that matters IMHO). They will be DCS F Row ABS Double Shots and two modifiers 1x1.25 Poly Carbonate Pills:


[Mockups enabled!]

(Attachment Link)

All red and blue will be Polycarbonate, like Keypop's:

Show Image
(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/128992497/max_h-300+max_w-300/RedCloudyKeycap.jpg)

Show Image
(http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/121864296/max_h-300+max_w-300/TranslucentManaBottle.jpg)


If you could pick one legend you would not like to see in the set, which would it be? I need to shave off one more legend to make this thing affordable for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:17:50
I'm a fan of green on black, but I like the white on red EMP, maybe the green on black EMP could go?
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Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:20:01
I'm a fan of green on black, but I like the white on red EMP, maybe the green on black EMP could go?

It would need to apply to both sets. So, no EMP in Glow in the dark and black, no EMP for PCRed with white. I like the EMP...

I would change the blue and red to the same legend instead of mirror images, but I don't want to cheapen the look. I like that they are opposites.

Decisions...

Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: mashby on Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:27:18
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.
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Post by: rowdy on Tue, 24 June 2014, 18:52:37
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

+1
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Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 24 June 2014, 19:02:45
Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

Kill the cat. Bring him back in the second series.

+1

So harsh...well that was Matt3o's design. He was talking of doing a Matrix theme at some point anyway, maybe I will just let him retain the right to it and drop it from this set.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 24 June 2014, 23:00:16
Okay. The set is done. It ain't much, but it should fetch a fair price even in the beginning. Think we can sell 50 of these bad boys?

On to the title of this GB. I am thinking 'Mainframe Dream Prison'
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: MrChunky on Wed, 25 June 2014, 03:14:57
I was thinking something like "The Way Out" or "Unplugged".

My reasoning here is that since we finally have rabbit, pills and EMP, it represents the the whole way. From idea (following the rabbit) to the decision (the pills), and finally to action (EMP). So I actually I like the first one "The way out" better, but it might be a bit too philosophical  :rolleyes:
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Post by: mer on Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:40:17
Ok, I had to do it. I just did a quick mockup of a TKL Matrix set using the Matrix font at dafont.com.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:45:38
I totally need to work on a matrix layout...
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Post by: mashby on Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:50:57

I totally need to work on a matrix layout...

Yes. Yes you do.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 08:58:48

I totally need to work on a matrix layout...

Yes. Yes you do.

please help with reference material
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:26:39
I was thinking something like "The Way Out" or "Unplugged".

My reasoning here is that since we finally have rabbit, pills and EMP, it represents the the whole way. From idea (following the rabbit) to the decision (the pills), and finally to action (EMP). So I actually I like the first one "The way out" better, but it might be a bit too philosophical  :rolleyes:

How about 'There's No Spoon: The Novelty Keycap Set for the Digitally Unplugged'
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:32:56
Simply "There is No Spoon" would be perfect.
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Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:34:52
Simply "There is No Spoon" would be perfect.

Do you think that people will get the reference right away?
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Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:38:10
I find it a quite subtle title, especially because there's not actually a spoon key. I don't think the title alone would influence sales anyway.
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Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:39:41
I find it a quite subtle title, especially because there's not actually a spoon key. I don't think the title alone would influence sales anyway.

I need to come up with a cool banner like yours...did you do it yourself?
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 09:54:23
I need to come up with a cool banner like yours...did you do it yourself?

I did... would you like one-------
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:09:38
I need to come up with a cool banner like yours...did you do it yourself?

I did... would you like one-------

Well, sure. Also, I plan on giving you credit for your input when I do the write up for this GB. The EMP design was orignally yours, I just tweaked it. Plus, you have added to my ideas significantly. I would totally be interested in a snazzy banner for There is No Spoon...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: mashby on Wed, 25 June 2014, 10:48:39
please help with reference material

I'll see if I can get some time this weekend to work on it.
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Post by: Matt3o on Wed, 25 June 2014, 11:00:34
Very quickly sorry

(http://i.imgur.com/VbHf2k4.png)

PS: no need for the credits, I just participated into the IC
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Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 11:20:05
Very quickly sorry

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VbHf2k4.png)


PS: no need for the credits, I just participated into the IC

In the words of Keanu, 'Whoa!'
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Post by: JoshMK on Wed, 25 June 2014, 11:35:21
(http://contenidos.enter.co/custom/uploads/2013/03/Shut-Up-And-Take-My-Rupees.jpg)
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Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 25 June 2014, 11:37:40
Show Image
(http://contenidos.enter.co/custom/uploads/2013/03/Shut-Up-And-Take-My-Rupees.jpg)


Priceless...
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Post by: Data on Wed, 25 June 2014, 16:11:04
Ok, I had to do it. I just did a quick mockup of a TKL Matrix set using the Matrix font at dafont.com.

(Attachment Link)

I'm throwing money at the screen.  Let me know when it's enough.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 27 June 2014, 15:41:41
Just got word that the GB should go live Wednesday of next week.
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Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:31:34
Tick tock, tick tock...I hope the white rabbit isn't late for this very important date.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 06 August 2014, 13:03:16
Okay, so the initial PMK group buy was a bust. Should I relaunch it now but with only the Pills keycaps? Or should I wait and relaunch later? Input, please!?

 :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 06 August 2014, 14:08:37
Okay, so the initial PMK group buy was a bust. Should I relaunch it now but with only the Pills keycaps? Or should I wait and relaunch later? Input, please!?

 :confused:

I think the only viable way to run a novelty GB is to combine all of your designs!

If the total price is attractive, people will buy the set even if they only liked 75% of the keycaps.

In my opinion you should chose a high tier so nobody is afraid to commit. Either they get the keys for a good price (~3$) or the GB fails.

I think it's worth trying it that way  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 06 August 2014, 15:34:29
Okay, so the initial PMK group buy was a bust. Should I relaunch it now but with only the Pills keycaps? Or should I wait and relaunch later? Input, please!?

 :confused:

I think the only viable way to run a novelty GB is to combine all of your designs!

If the total price is attractive, people will buy the set even if they only liked 75% of the keycaps.

In my opinion you should chose a high tier so nobody is afraid to commit. Either they get the keys for a good price (~3$) or the GB fails.

I think it's worth trying it that way  :thumb:

So, 100 MOQ? I dunno...50 would keep them at $9.00 for the two PC keycaps...seems reasonable...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: Data on Wed, 06 August 2014, 16:07:17
I was only interested in the glowy keys.  $13 for the set of 4 seemed perfectly reasonable to me.  I liked them all.

Sucks that it didn't tip.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: AKmalamute on Wed, 06 August 2014, 16:14:28
I wanted the rabbit more than I wanted the pills. Also my keyboard is ANSI150 so I'd have to put the 1.25 keys somewhere odd ... or more likely on my ergodox.
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 06 August 2014, 21:36:24
I was only interested in the glowy keys.  $13 for the set of 4 seemed perfectly reasonable to me.  I liked them all.

Sucks that it didn't tip.


Fortunately the glowing one didn't tip, I would have had to shell out the $45 dollars per legend ($180.00) in order for the set to be made. That cost is put into the first 25 which was why the parent deal was so much. All my future GB's will be separate parent deals.

I wanted the rabbit more than I wanted the pills. Also my keyboard is ANSI150 so I'd have to put the 1.25 keys somewhere odd ... or more likely on my ergodox.

What size would have been good for your modifiers on your ANSI150? 1x1.5?

Also, I am thinking of running the group buy again now, but this time having a single Rabbit key by itself with a glowing variant with it, the Red and Blue pills in 1x1.25 PC, and then a version of Red and Blue pills in 1x1 Red and Blue ABS. Like how they did the banner keycaps below:

[attach=1]

Though I am not sure I want the same profile...maybe Row 4 DCS 1x1...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 07 August 2014, 19:15:09
I wanted the rabbit more than I wanted the pills. Also my keyboard is ANSI150 so I'd have to put the 1.25 keys somewhere odd ... or more likely on my ergodox.

I have a new interest check up on the PMK website just for you:

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/there-is-no-spoon-keycaps-inspired-by-the-matrix-white-rabbit-set/

I will be posted another one for the Red/Blue Pill soon...
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 08 August 2014, 15:40:56
I wanted the rabbit more than I wanted the pills. Also my keyboard is ANSI150 so I'd have to put the 1.25 keys somewhere odd ... or more likely on my ergodox.

I have a new interest check up on the PMK website just for you:

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/there-is-no-spoon-keycaps-inspired-by-the-matrix-white-rabbit-set/

I will be posted another one for the Red/Blue Pill soon...

Blue/Red Pill set up for interest check, below:

http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/there-is-no-spoon-keycaps-inspired-by-the-matrix-blue-and-red-pill-set/
Title: Re: [IC] The Matrix Novelty keycaps - ABS Double Shots...
Post by: 00zeRO on Sun, 26 October 2014, 14:33:14
After PMK now has a limitation on the amount of votes before an IC can go live as a GB, I have been in talks with Keypop, and well, all the designs that were from the Matrix busted Group Buy on PMK will soon be available through Keypop on their website!