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[IC] Lyra keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:14:23 »
GB is scheduled to start on March 1 to March 22!




Hello,

This is a prototype of the 60% Hot-swap keyboard with a pretty non-standard layout.
I first saw this layout in the CandyBar keyboard then I had an idea of doing something similar while adding a split spacebar
and adding a possibility to cut the numpad out (leaving only numerics, instead of alphas — it might be helpful for languages
with alphabets larger than standard English).

PCB was developed by KgOfHedgehogs and myself. Plate mounting is a little unusual as well. Unlike tray mount plate screws into the case instead of PCB.

There is a possibility to move case stand-offs to allow different layouts like left numpad (Beta) or ortholinear (Gamma) in the future.

The case is made out of CNC machined 7075 aluminum coated with Cerakote (prototype uses Cobalt H-112 color). Made in Europe.
The typing degree is 6°. Universal Black POM plate (prototype has a stainless steel plate). Plastic LED Light Guide Pipe. Size 338,5 × 104 × 27 mm (13.3 × 4 × 1.1 inch)

Alpha 58/62 MX Hot-Swap PCB Type-C Rev 1.0 (prototype has Rev 0.1). USB-C connection. Atmega 32u4. PCB protected from ESD with USBLC6-2SC6 chip. QMK Firmware. Kailh Hotswap sockets.




















 
LED indicator modes are as follows: Num Lock ON — RGB. Num Lock OFF — Blue. Caps Lock ON — Red. 2 layers with color indication.




The total MOQ is 50. MOQ for each color is 10 5. You will be able to select a color in the IC form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17DFWghNsVKcxYEYmY0ga2phx48TVzHr4h-JB0C8fbzE




Cobalt H-112
Blue Titanium H-185
Polar Blue H-326
Pink Champagne H-311
Bright Purple H-217
Robin’s Egg Blue H-175
Zombie Green H-168
Corvette Yellow H-144
Prison Pink H-141
Smith & Wesson Red H-216

Price estimate is $250 plus shipping (TBD before the GB).

The current target timeline is to open in the second half of February. Shipping should then take place in June.

GB is scheduled to start on March 1 to March 22!. Shipping should then take place in June–July.
« Last Edit: Sun, 01 March 2020, 09:24:26 by alexbarb »

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:31:50 »
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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:33:07 »
You need a picture of this fully built from above, can’t really tell what’s going on without it. 

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 06:45:24 »
Oh man this is TRIPPY  :eek:

gimme

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 07:23:17 »
It'd be cool if LEDs indicated layers

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 07:31:42 »
nice )  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 07:32:24 »
Ambitious design!

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:16:49 »
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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:26:52 »
Seems like a nicer candybar with more layout options, I like it. Left numpad option would definitely get me interested in one.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:32:22 »
Seems like a nicer candybar with more layout options, I like it. Left numpad option would definitely get me interested in one.
I'll second the left numpad

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:37:36 »
very cool

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:38:19 »

Plate mounting is a little unusual as well. Unlike tray mount plate screws into the case instead of PCB.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just bottom mount?

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:51:33 »

Plate mounting is a little unusual as well. Unlike tray mount plate screws into the case instead of PCB.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just bottom mount?

Rather a hybrid )

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 08:57:55 »
Man. Now I'm just imagining this case but with 2 separate PCBs and a daughter board so you can make it left or right numpad...

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:09:43 »
Man. Now I'm just imagining this case but with 2 separate PCBs and a daughter board so you can make it left or right numpad...

Let's look at IC. If there will be a lot of people on the left nampad. Let's do this with this GB. I planned to develop a little later

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:18:30 »
Man. Now I'm just imagining this case but with 2 separate PCBs and a daughter board so you can make it left or right numpad...

Let's look at IC. If there will be a lot of people on the left nampad. Let's do this with this GB. I planned to develop a little later
You mean add the split PCB? That would definitely make this an awesomely unique keeb. I just got excited with how configurable the base layout was now, and thought it'd be cool if it was also southpaw configurable.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:24:51 »
The case is designed for three options PCB

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 10:40:20 »
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Hello,

This is a prototype of the 60% Hot-swap keyboard with a pretty non-standard layout.
I first saw this layout in the CandyBar keyboard then I had an idea of doing something similar while adding a split spacebar
and adding a possibility to cut the numpad out (leaving only numerics, instead of alphas — it might be helpful for languages
with alphabets larger than standard English).

PCB was developed by KgOfHedgehogs and myself. Plate mounting is a little unusual as well. Unlike tray mount plate screws into the case instead of PCB.

There is a possibility to move case stand-offs to allow different layouts like left numpad (Beta) or ortholinear (Gamma) in the future.

The case is made out of CNC machined 7075 aluminum coated with Cerakote (prototype uses Cobalt H-112 color). Made in EU.
The typing degree is 6°. Universal Black POM plate (prototype has a stainless steel plate). Plastic LED Light Guide Pipe.

Alpha 58/62 MX Hot-Swap PCB Type-C Rev 1.0 (prototype has Rev 0.1). USB-C connection. Atmega 32u4. PCB protected from ESD with USBLC6-2SC6 chip. QMK Firmware. Kailh Hotswap sockets.

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LED indicator modes are as follows: Num Lock ON — RGB. Num Lock OFF — Blue. Caps Lock ON — Red.

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The total MOQ is 50. MOQ for each color is 10. You will be able to select a color in the IC form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17DFWghNsVKcxYEYmY0ga2phx48TVzHr4h-JB0C8fbzE


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Price estimate is $250 plus shipping (TBD before the GB).

The current target timeline is to open in the second half of February. Shipping should then take place in June.

You're going to end up having more demand than supply

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 10:45:10 »
The case is designed for three options PCB

Yeah, no, I get that. I just meant for me personally I'd like to be able to experiment with southpaw or regular num pad. And when I go to eventually sell or pass on my board, the next person may like one or the other. So having that modularity by providing multiple split PCBs in a single build is unique they could take the same 2 halves of the PCB, and simply switch their location in the case, compared to having to just purchase multiple different PCBs. I totally realize I'm probably in the minority here, but for design I think it's an interesting concept.

I realize this increases complexity, and would require a daughterboard with controller that the other PCBs would have to interface with. But it's just something I thought up. don't expect you to implement it for this GB.
« Last Edit: Thu, 06 February 2020, 10:50:09 by Zeelobby »

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 10:47:30 »
Show Image


Hello,

This is a prototype of the 60% Hot-swap keyboard with a pretty non-standard layout.
I first saw this layout in the CandyBar keyboard then I had an idea of doing something similar while adding a split spacebar
and adding a possibility to cut the numpad out (leaving only numerics, instead of alphas — it might be helpful for languages
with alphabets larger than standard English).

PCB was developed by KgOfHedgehogs and myself. Plate mounting is a little unusual as well. Unlike tray mount plate screws into the case instead of PCB.

There is a possibility to move case stand-offs to allow different layouts like left numpad (Beta) or ortholinear (Gamma) in the future.

The case is made out of CNC machined 7075 aluminum coated with Cerakote (prototype uses Cobalt H-112 color). Made in EU.
The typing degree is 6°. Universal Black POM plate (prototype has a stainless steel plate). Plastic LED Light Guide Pipe.

Alpha 58/62 MX Hot-Swap PCB Type-C Rev 1.0 (prototype has Rev 0.1). USB-C connection. Atmega 32u4. PCB protected from ESD with USBLC6-2SC6 chip. QMK Firmware. Kailh Hotswap sockets.

Show Image


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Show Image


Show Image


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Show Image

 
LED indicator modes are as follows: Num Lock ON — RGB. Num Lock OFF — Blue. Caps Lock ON — Red.

Show Image



The total MOQ is 50. MOQ for each color is 10. You will be able to select a color in the IC form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17DFWghNsVKcxYEYmY0ga2phx48TVzHr4h-JB0C8fbzE


Show Image


Price estimate is $250 plus shipping (TBD before the GB).

The current target timeline is to open in the second half of February. Shipping should then take place in June.

You're going to end up having more demand than supply


PCB sketches are. Finish is not a problem;) The basic work has already been done

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:05:59 »
This keyboard is hype! MOQ 50 FCFS. Bless up, baby

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:19:00 »
This keyboard is hype! MOQ 50 FCFS. Bless up, baby

What is the hype? With this PCB, everything is ready for production at this price and MOQ.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:23:18 »
This keyboard is hype! MOQ 50 FCFS. Bless up, baby

What is the hype? With this PCB, everything is ready for production at this price and MOQ.

He/She meant it as a good thing. As in excitement. Not hype as in exaggerated.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:39:25 »
This keyboard is hype! MOQ 50 FCFS. Bless up, baby

What is the hype? With this PCB, everything is ready for production at this price and MOQ.

He/She meant it as a good thing. As in excitement. Not hype as in exaggerated.
^^^^ this, as in, I/we are 'hyped up and excited' for this keyboard

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 11:48:15 »
 :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:11:11 »
I am poor but in love.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:22:06 »
Yeah. This board honestly went to the top of my list. Love the design and possibilities.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:30:56 »
Is that right Shift 1.25U? Also, will the PCB support screw-mounted stabilizers?

The board looks great, by the way. And thank you for making it hotswap! From what I've seen, most interesting boards seem to be solder-only. I'm pretty new to the enthusiast side of things, though, so I was probably just late to the party for some good ones.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:35:32 »
Is that right Shift 1.25U? Also, will the PCB support screw-mounted stabilizers?

The board looks great, by the way. And thank you for making it hotswap! From what I've seen, most interesting boards seem to be solder-only. I'm pretty new to the enthusiast side of things, though, so I was probably just late to the party for some good ones.

Only PCB support screw-mounted )
« Last Edit: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:37:48 by alexbarb »

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:46:45 »
This is cute. Not sure how I feel about losing the dedicated math keys on the numpad.

What's the size of the case?

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 12:54:26 »
This is cute. Not sure how I feel about losing the dedicated math keys on the numpad.

What's the size of the case?

338,5 × 104 × 27 mm ( 13,3 × 4 × 1,1 inch)

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 13:27:58 »
it's a really cool concept, I'm interested but I'm not sure which layout I would find perfect... is it possible to add support for a 2u tall enter key in the bottom right? I don't think sculpted keycap sets are compatible otherwise. What would a left-hand numpad version look like?

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 13:39:10 »
it's a really cool concept, I'm interested but I'm not sure which layout I would find perfect... is it possible to add support for a 2u tall enter key in the bottom right? I don't think sculpted keycap sets are compatible otherwise. What would a left-hand numpad version look like?

Full nampad is provided as an option. But not as a basic layout. 2U tall enter key, unfortunately, cannot be installed without reworking the entire structure if you look at the mount
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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 12:10:57 »
It'd be cool if LEDs indicated layers

it will be added

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 12:38:52 »
It'd be cool if LEDs indicated layers

it will be added
Too cool. This one's def on my radar.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 13:44:09 »
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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 14:08:35 »
If color options are real Cerakote, is it possible to provide specific Cerakote color code, like H-326Q for polar blue etc? I'm considering polar blue for GMK Godspeed for instance.

I strongly doubt that it will be possible to make all the declared colors. It is determined that with 10 positions for each color it is possible

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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 15:22:01 »
Interested

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 15:37:32 »
Oh dang.. I had a similar kb layout in my head.. I will prob cop this :) do we know the length? Similar to TKL?

Edit nm dimensions in OP

Good work!
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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:07:42 »
If color options are real Cerakote, is it possible to provide specific Cerakote color code, like H-326Q for polar blue etc? I'm considering polar blue for GMK Godspeed for instance.

The IC form has all the Cerakote color codes listed. I don't know why they aren't in the main post too, but here you go:

  • Cobalt H-112
  • Blue Titanium H-185
  • Polar Blue H-326
  • Pink Champagne H-311
  • Bright Purple H-217
  • Robin’s Egg Blue H-175
  • Zombie Green H-168
  • Corvette Yellow H-144
  • Prison Pink H-141
  • Smith & Wesson Red H-216

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 22:06:13 »
IC form filled. Hope we can see renders of the board with different colors soon.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 22:44:52 »
obligatory lefty numpad shill, looks cool though

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 00:04:46 »
This is pretty sleek. I'm definitely into this. Would you consider making a solderable PCB as well? I'd prefer that tbh

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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 01:58:46 »
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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 03:55:17 »
The more i look at the layout options the more i cant decide what i think of the keyboard, it makes me feel strange things that make me intrigued so imma get it but god damn is it freaking me out. Especially the leftmost column  :confused: :eek: :confused:

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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 04:53:39 »
The more i look at the layout options the more i cant decide what i think of the keyboard, it makes me feel strange things that make me intrigued so imma get it but god damn is it freaking me out. Especially the leftmost column  :confused: :eek: :confused:

what's bothering you? ask questions

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 05:43:52 »
How you only end up with rows, so esc ends up on the Q row, Tab on the A row, caps on the Z row and shift on the bottom row. Obv you can remap away caps for shift and then add back ctrl on the bottom row. Wont this mess with keycap support? Also the lack of ISO support bothers me some but i can deal with it, you would have to make it a little wider to support it(i think?) so i can see not supporting it.

Idk it really throws my brain for a loop just looking at it, im very interested in getting one but still it weirds me out :P

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« Reply #47 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 06:05:18 »
How you only end up with rows, so esc ends up on the Q row, Tab on the A row, caps on the Z row and shift on the bottom row. Obv you can remap away caps for shift and then add back ctrl on the bottom row. Wont this mess with keycap support? Also the lack of ISO support bothers me some but i can deal with it, you would have to make it a little wider to support it(i think?) so i can see not supporting it.

Idk it really throws my brain for a loop just looking at it, im very interested in getting one but still it weirds me out :P

This is the standard solution for 40% of keyboards. ISO is not possible here – hotswap

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 06:59:07 »
How you only end up with rows, so esc ends up on the Q row, Tab on the A row, caps on the Z row and shift on the bottom row. Obv you can remap away caps for shift and then add back ctrl on the bottom row. Wont this mess with keycap support? Also the lack of ISO support bothers me some but i can deal with it, you would have to make it a little wider to support it(i think?) so i can see not supporting it.

Idk it really throws my brain for a loop just looking at it, im very interested in getting one but still it weirds me out :P
I think part of your confusion comes from not knowing what the symbols are supposed to represent. the ^ is the shift symbol, not caps lock, and the ^ is control, not shift. Of course you can remap everything but that's what the symbols in the layout picture are meant to be. The part left of the numpad would be supported by usual 40% keycap kits, I think. I'm myself not exactly sure how to populate the keys on the right.

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Re: [IC] Lyra keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 07:16:58 »
How you only end up with rows, so esc ends up on the Q row, Tab on the A row, caps on the Z row and shift on the bottom row. Obv you can remap away caps for shift and then add back ctrl on the bottom row. Wont this mess with keycap support? Also the lack of ISO support bothers me some but i can deal with it, you would have to make it a little wider to support it(i think?) so i can see not supporting it.

Idk it really throws my brain for a loop just looking at it, im very interested in getting one but still it weirds me out :P
I think part of your confusion comes from not knowing what the symbols are supposed to represent. the ^ is the shift symbol, not caps lock, and the ^ is control, not shift. Of course you can remap everything but that's what the symbols in the layout picture are meant to be. The part left of the numpad would be supported by usual 40% keycap kits, I think. I'm myself not exactly sure how to populate the keys on the right.

hahaha neat, that does clear some confusion. Im really just going by the sizes :) Sorry for being a noooooob  ;D