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Title: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Screen.jing on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:00:43
Papilio

Gasket??? THOCC???
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51685915154_da2e76452c_o.png) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpNnehqtTA)

Hi keebord people! This is a TKL I have spent my time and all of my money on for the past year. I will never financially recover from this... I don't have the means to get more prototypes right now, here is what I have so far.

IC Form (https://forms.gle/H8baxAFj39PcGD2G7)
Discord (https://discord.gg/Swg5JHKfUW)

Specification
(https://i.imgur.com/0GaAj24.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/XO395Cs.png)
 
Prototypes

(https://imgur.com/sUkB6OM.png)
(https://imgur.com/1xje45G.png)
(https://imgur.com/EyLlq3P.png)
(https://imgur.com/mEtPnnr.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/G5gmPy2.png)(https://i.imgur.com/frouE7Q.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1w9p1jv.png)(https://i.imgur.com/IfdpH26.png)(https://i.imgur.com/uRawkyT.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/dT9SKz2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/3V1rKeO.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QG0ZOAJ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/VNujNro.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GIhA7dP.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/dC0XYJu.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/r6uD06I.jpg)

Build Stream for those interested! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AcYfyghrXI&t=8637s&ab_channel=SW4GK1NG)
Sound Test for those interested! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXIciN0mho8&t=79s&ab_channel=SW4GK1NG)

Availibility & Vendors
I am aiming for the target price to be around 450-500 USD + shipping. The MOQ is 100 units with fnf units here and there.

Vendors:




Issues noticed:

Thanks
everyone for reading this IC
everyone in Blacksimon's community - i love you guys :catBlush:
$W4GK!NG - thank you for building this keyboard, lit up a PCB and pictures
mcmcmc - thank you for giving me feedbacks and help with this IC
bababaul - thank you for giving me advice in manufacturing
All 69g longs in my discord - thank you for supporting me ❤️
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: $W4GK!NG on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:01:09
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Sleepdealr on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:03:43
i love tkl
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: kameron on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:03:54
love u jing
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Ella on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:30:09
tee kay el
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: mcmcmc on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:37:58
happy to see this project in IC. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Fraaaan on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:38:08
Very thoccy side profile. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: herbologist on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:40:54
Reserved

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Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: chat and team on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:52:10
I like it very nice
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Zyrophr on Fri, 11 February 2022, 12:18:18
I love this, gib.
Looks beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: gotgoodiez on Fri, 11 February 2022, 12:34:18
That front chamfer is really nice and honestly really like the sparkling. Nice job!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: hali on Fri, 11 February 2022, 13:18:11
badass sides
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Nonnegaard on Fri, 11 February 2022, 13:57:38
holy **** im gonna cum
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 11 February 2022, 14:08:34
i do not know if i would trust the GB units to be refinished properly unless you are getting another prototype from theim to verify that they can finish it properly. factories will often say they can do anything for you just so you place a bulk order with them. if you are still using the factory as you did for your prototype, I think you should reconsider.

personally i think you should just use a better factory instead of choosing these, and increase your price slightly. if someone is spending $500 on a keyboard of mediocre quality, i am sure they would spend $70 or more for high tier quality. it's not even just the finishing that this manufacturer is bad at, their actual machining and stuff is pretty bad too. they have crooked lines and dents and filleting that isn't properly round. just not good overall, but "good" for prototyping since they are so cheap at low unit count.
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Screen.jing on Fri, 11 February 2022, 14:34:26
Quote from: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 11 February 2022, 14:08:34
i do not know if i would trust the GB units to be refinished properly unless you are getting another prototype from theim to verify that they can finish it properly. factories will often say they can do anything for you just so you place a bulk order with them. if you are still using the factory as you did for your prototype, I think you should reconsider.

personally i think you should just use a better factory instead of choosing these, and increase your price slightly. if someone is spending $500 on a keyboard of mediocre quality, i am sure they would spend $70 or more for high tier quality. it's not even just the finishing that this manufacturer is bad at, their actual machining and stuff is pretty bad too. they have crooked lines and dents and filleting that isn't properly round. just not good overall, but "good" for prototyping since they are so cheap at low unit count.

Hi! I appreciated your time giving me feedback. Right now I am looking at other factories that have a history of better QC. The prototypes that were shown are from 2 different 'ok' manus and I agree with you that they are pretty bad. I will reconsider them when I get the quotes from other manus if they are not significantly higher than what I have so far, but I would not push my target price over 500usd.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: TRIGOZEN x TAO on Fri, 11 February 2022, 17:21:33
hello mrr jing, i like this very much
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: linell on Fri, 11 February 2022, 17:31:07
thank you for using the superior gasket mount
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Kinesiologist on Fri, 11 February 2022, 19:32:36
papi
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: treeleaf64 on Fri, 11 February 2022, 21:36:56
love that anodization  honestly great texture. am a fan of that stufff!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sat, 12 February 2022, 00:57:16
so lit
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: milka158 on Sat, 12 February 2022, 09:21:34
hot. would love to see centered usb port with daughterboard
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: ylothar on Sat, 12 February 2022, 12:44:08
Quote from: Screen.jing on Fri, 11 February 2022, 11:00:43
  • 86 keys tkl - WKL only

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/cPKWZB2aaB3rO/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611c23b049f3477c82acd9fbc100ebf5c012c265b0c&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: nikotypo on Sat, 12 February 2022, 18:20:52
so lit. I kinda like the sparkle, makes it stand out. I wish you could preserve some of that with a finer grit.
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: less_blank on Sun, 13 February 2022, 01:12:34
I really like the sparkly finish on the proto as well as the three color tones, hoping something like that will still be available for the production run but I understand changing it if you're not happy with the quality of the manufacturer.
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: spedywin on Sun, 13 February 2022, 20:47:45
nice tea cay el glwic man
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Belled on Mon, 14 February 2022, 19:13:10
I like the weight
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: CRASHFIRE on Tue, 22 February 2022, 12:03:16
Looks really nice. I like it. Looking forward to seeing more about it.
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: pepperfez on Wed, 23 February 2022, 12:53:27
Quote from: less_blank on Sun, 13 February 2022, 01:12:34
I really like the sparkly finish on the proto

Quote from: nikotypo on Sat, 12 February 2022, 18:20:52
so lit. I kinda like the sparkle, makes it stand out.

Quote from: treeleaf64 on Fri, 11 February 2022, 21:36:56
love that anodization  honestly great texture. am a fan of that stufff!

Count me among the sparkle lovers. It's appropriate for the board's name, too -- butterfly wings have the same effect.
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Shaqo_Wyn on Sat, 05 March 2022, 12:05:16
Please tell me you're selling the color of the prototype. I needz that!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Screen.jing on Wed, 08 June 2022, 06:06:50
Prototype group buy in progress

Expect a build stream from Alexotos soon this month
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 08 June 2022, 12:16:55
Quote from: Screen.jing on Wed, 08 June 2022, 06:06:50
Prototype group buy in progress

Expect a build stream from Alexotos soon this month

oh man, prototype GB?  Was this open to the public or a F&F sort of deal?
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: ZAND4 on Wed, 08 June 2022, 13:49:48
WKL iz not for everyone
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 08 June 2022, 15:12:20
Quote from: //gainsborough on Wed, 08 June 2022, 12:16:55
Quote from: Screen.jing on Wed, 08 June 2022, 06:06:50
Prototype group buy in progress

Expect a build stream from Alexotos soon this month

oh man, prototype GB?  Was this open to the public or a F&F sort of deal?

not super unusual these days for a small fnf run to take place when ordering protos to offset the cost a bit
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: deska on Wed, 08 June 2022, 16:55:55
weight design looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Jubileus on Thu, 25 August 2022, 22:15:45
Based Jing. Give me lavander!
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: chigi22 on Fri, 26 August 2022, 09:41:13
Add me to the list of sparkle appreciators, LOL
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: LMarci on Wed, 28 September 2022, 12:49:12
Can't wait for this
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: infinitum on Mon, 03 October 2022, 08:56:20
yes i love the sparkle finish
Title: Re: [IC] Papilio| WKL TKL
Post by: Flybeck on Mon, 03 October 2022, 09:20:35
We love jing,

no but fr this looks really good man. Always making some cool boards. Excited to see more.