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[Ciantha]

Really prefer mod color grave (`~) when using HHKB layout or WKL layout with split backspace (cause it's more symmetric), and I also want ergo support on the base kit (yeah I wish I can have both).

As someone who does not care about nubbed homing keys, my ideal world is removing nubbed homing keys and bringing back mod color grave in package B.

I'm in the same boat (would prefer mod color grave + ergo support). +1 for removing the nubbed homing keys.

Echoing the above. For split backspace mod grave makes it a lot more symmetrical i.m.h.o.

[njb]

I've been reading the geekhack forum for a couple of years since I was dragged into the awesomeness of the custom mech world, I decided to register me as a user just to say: count me in! I'm from EU and I will join the Oblotzky Industries GB!

[Ivo_Ruiter]

So if no color matching is happening, can I assume the blue will be just as dull IRL as the pink was versus the render?

The renders above reflect the colors IRL.

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I guess instead of telling people to calibrate their monitors vendors can simply lie now.

Hi, have you seen gmk 8008 IRL? Because most pictures don't to this set justice. A lot of people use artificial light (which is mostly 'warmer' of colour, so more yellow-ish). That is also the case in the picture you included.

I am typing on gmk 8008 right now and honestly i can say that i am very satisfied with the colour matching (except for the rama keycap but that is a different story)

[Visionaire]

So if no color matching is happening, can I assume the blue will be just as dull IRL as the pink was versus the render?

The renders above reflect the colors IRL.

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I guess instead of telling people to calibrate their monitors vendors can simply lie now.

Hi, have you seen gmk 8008 IRL? Because most pictures don't to this set justice. A lot of people use artificial light (which is mostly 'warmer' of colour, so more yellow-ish). That is also the case in the picture you included.

I am typing on gmk 8008 right now and honestly i can say that i am very satisfied with the colour matching (except for the rama keycap but that is a different story)

To each their own. I did own it, didn't feel like it lived up to renders and sold it.

[SuddenlyDonkey]

for the RAMAWORKS collabe I would love to get the XO caps with pink actent on black and bleue accent on black. simple and effitient.

I like this idea. Also, R1 mod color PVD brass wave.

[Mechanix]

Great job

[pilsy]

Exactly what I‘ve been waiting for! 
You got me the moment I read the title.

[bLaXe]

Damn. Just ordered Redline as my first set. Also waiting on Superuser so not sure I can justify this one which is a real shame.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about the colour matching of the pink in this set. What was the issue exactly? That the final product didn't have the vibrancy of the concepts? Wondering how people who actually bought this in R1 felt about this. Was it a disappointment? Because as someone new to all this- the vibrancy of that rendered pink against the greys is what really got me interested in this set. And (what I'm reading) may be tweaked 'beauty shots' of the set on peoples' desks. Is this a common problem with key sets generally or is this an isolated case? Do most live up to their renders?

[rooski15]

I have mixed feelings about the proposed changes. While I don't use mod-colored pipe or grave, I think it's a step in the wrong direction to take those two keys out in favor of the additions. I think they are absolutely necessary to include in the base kit. As much as would like to have Alice support, I wouldn't want to achieve that support by taking out two keys that have been included in most base kits for a while now.   

Even with the proposed changes to include Alice support, I maintain that I would love to see numpad + basic iso in the base kit. In a perfect world I would have wanted to have seen a comparison of prices of the current base kit vs. a full base kit. I'm sure this is not feasible at this point but I would be really curious to see how people felt about paying a little bit more for a fleshed out kit. A full base kit would have also given people the opportunity to run the blue kit on more boards, since it seems iso and numpad are not supported in that color.

Thanks for asking the consumers what they would like to see and for considering feedback.

I'm with you. Alice support is nice, but not at the expense of Mod pipe.

Also, I was in R1 and was disappointed in the way it turned out. Ended up selling immediately. No way I would buy the pink kit if there aren't color changes coming. Now I have to decide if I'm willing to chance on blue... cause I'm a sucker for blue.

This is also my main concern. I really like the more vibrant pink. When the info says color matched R1 does that mean it changed it to look more like the render, or just matched the orginal color R1 delivered??

I would take this to mean they will request the colors they signed off on forn R1. I'd expect the finished product to be almost indistinguishable from R1

[gminso]

shouldnt addition kit contain colored iso enter or none at all?

I want colored iso enter but dont wanna buy norde... I think the grey iso enter part of addition kit was meant for the people like me. but I need a colored one.. if not in addition kit, aesthetics?

[AshF]

+1 for iso kit.

[dibkib]

Damn. Just ordered Redline as my first set. Also waiting on Superuser so not sure I can justify this one which is a real shame.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about the colour matching of the pink in this set. What was the issue exactly? That the final product didn't have the vibrancy of the concepts? Wondering how people who actually bought this in R1 felt about this. Was it a disappointment? Because as someone new to all this- the vibrancy of that rendered pink against the greys is what really got me interested in this set. And (what I'm reading) may be tweaked 'beauty shots' of the set on peoples' desks. Is this a common problem with key sets generally or is this an isolated case? Do most live up to their renders?

The renders for R1 showed a very vibrant, neon pink and a light grey. When the kit was delivered, while it was indeed a hot pink shade, it was not vibrant, nor neon, and instead was a lot more muted and salmon-y. The grey of the alphas was also darker than the renders suggested it would be. Some people liked it, some were disappointed. I personally was disappointed because I'd just received GMK Vaporwave, which is neon and colour-matched so well it looks just like the renders, so I knew it could be done. GMK 8008 looks a lot more bland in real life than it does in the R1 renders. Mind you it looks fine, it's just not really what people were expecting.

I think the issue of mismatched renders was more prevalent a few years ago, but the hobby has grown considerably and designers and sellers have really had to make an effort. I own around a dozen keysets and this is the only one where I've though "oh, that is not what I expected at all". Some minor discrepancies are not uncommon, but this was vastly different. When GMK 8008 R1 came out, there was enough backlash that Dixie has since made a thorough effort to be more transparent with the colour-matching process, sharing reports and pictures of kits he's creating and distributing (look at GMK Modern Dolch Light here).

As a result, this second round of GMK8008 leaves a bit of a bad taste for those of us who were disappointed in the R1 colour-matching because it looks as though Dixie has decided this was how GMK8008 was supposed to look like and is not offering any colour fix to have an actually neon pink option and live up to the original renders.

[VXQN]

I thought this thread was gonna be full salt and boy did it not disappoint!

[breckstar]

why no nubbed FJ on bl00?

[HappyB0T]

Please add a modern set for bloo! This looks incredible.

I would imagine quite a few would take both - like me.

[HappyB0T]

Ohhh, but what happened to the X accent keys even in the novelties? I like them on the previous run, so much character, will they be included??

- Batman signal without the batman logo.

[Domantas]

That blue set b option is so cool because if you have r1 you not only getting second set, but also you don't need to buy spacebars that much because one set can be used for standart keyboard other for ergo one

[Aevyn]

I would grab this set if effort was made to go back and try and achieve the actual colors from r1 instead of just accepting that and adding blue for a cash grab.

I'm disappointed that R1 colors didn't match renders as that's what I was looking for. However, the set as a whole was still nice. Not nice enough for me to buy a blue version without seeing revisions.

Not sure why there isn't effort being put here to try and color match to what the intended colors was as I'd (and I'm sure many other people) be interested in that more than whatever this is.

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[azzipa]

Nice boob! I mean 8008..

I've heard of blue balls but not bloo boobz. Learned something new today

[Domantas]

can we have row 5 and rename the set to 80085

Ye

[Domantas]

Would suggest to add numpad at least for blue set, since you are not doing any extra sets

[Capone1423]

Quick question; will the Norde, modern, astetic kit etc also be available in blue? I don’t see any blue renderings for it.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Quick question; will the Norde, modern, astetic kit etc also be available in blue? I don’t see any blue renderings for it.

Right now seems like no but a few of us are interested here and I think numpad or other kits could hit MOQ 100. What’s tough is that the turnaround time for new quotes is very long relative to the number of days left till GB start...

[Capone1423]

At least I need a blue iso enter to use the base kit. Is it possible to include that cap in the base kit?

[sevenseacat]

I know that pink can be a hard colour to photograph (lord knows I've had trouble trying to take accurate photos of half of MiTo's sets) but I went to look up photos of GMK 8008 R1 and.... yeah. That's not like the renders at all. And if people are saying it's not like the renders, and that the photos are accurate, then...

[GSPADE]

Daymn, best keycaps just got better <3

[alwaysbless]

Dixie stays re-releasing his sets. Next month will be Dracula R2 or 9009 r4

[Rayndalf]

The blue one looks like GMK Umbra but with worse coverage.

And suspect color matching.

[SE7EN_ate_NINE]

No Windows style modern kit in this run with diamonds and opposite direction Alt? 

[njb]

Would be nice to see a collaboration with a cable company like what happened with Spacecables when Dixie launched the Modern Dolch 2: the MoDo 2 custom coil cable. If the go for a 8008 coil cable I will buy that along with the standard and aesthetic kit.

[PizzaForce]

Still so disappointed in the pink from R1. It was not true to the renders at all and I found it very dull even under multiple light conditions. Sad to see it not changed to be more vibrant. The blue looks nice with the alphas which I did like from R1. Sadly the main draw here was the pink and because of that for me this can only be Tombstone frozen pizza.

[Zanhana]

Still so disappointed in the pink from R1. It was not true to the renders at all and I found it very dull even under multiple light conditions. Sad to see it not changed to be more vibrant. The blue looks nice with the alphas which I did like from R1. Sadly the main draw here was the pink and because of that for me this can only be Tombstone frozen pizza.

this 100%, it's a complete joke that the R1 color matching was botched so badly and now Dixie is pretending it's the color they wanted all along instead of doing anything to fix it

good cash grab though, it'll definitely pull new people who aren't aware of the issue

[alwaysbless]

Yea its a joke that these guys can get away with collecting 100k in payments from selling keycaps and dont even have accurate renders. Most arent even transparent with color matching and you wont get to see a physical product until it arrives at your door step

[Domantas]

Dixie stays re-releasing his sets. Next month will be Dracula R2 or 9009 r4

Dracula re-run when r1 is not even in works XD but that would be nice though

[HappyB0T]

Soooo much Salt!

[rcouchh]

Made an account just to post this here.

I was super unhappy with my R1 8008 order. Not only did it take 5 months over the original delivery time, it looked nothing like the renders. I waited a full year for a keyset that was nothing like it was intended. Greys were totally different, pinks were muted and not vibrant or neon. The RAMA caps did not match whatsoever, and also didn't even function (would just stick when pressed) because they were such thin rubber. Even the revised copy was unusable. Money thrown in the trash on those.

Now I see this, a super obvious cash grab while ignoring the customers from R1 who weren't satisfied. Guess it's pretty obvious where Dixie's interests lie nowadays.

I like the blue, but I can't even order just the blue accents? I'd have to rebuy an entire 2nd standard set and have duplicates? I'd say that makes no sense, but again I guess it's crystal clear they only care about making more money off of us and satisfaction doesn't really matter.

Sorry Dixie, but you just lost my business on this and any future products of yours. Hopefully other vendors don't turn out to be like this guy.

[GarrettSucks]

GB BEGINS THIS SUNDAY DECEMBER 6-31st

KITS FINALIZED

PACKAGE C ENTERS THE GAME

So we provided the community with two Kit Packages to vote on and give feedback. In the end, we decided to just give EVERYONE what they wanted plus a little more. (Since this is being taken out of context I will be more specific. I simply was saying that people who choose Package A or B both get what they voted for out of the Final Standard kits)

We included mod colored pipe/grave AND Full Ergo/Alice support in the Standard Kits. We added the 2u spacebar in the base.

We have added BL00 Numbers, Aesthetic, and Modern kits.

We have also added the Alternate kit for everyone who wanted to achieve the split modifiers setup without buying two base kits!

OP has been updated with all the final kits.


PRICING: Only US has been set so far. Other regions will be announced on launch day.

Standard: USD $99.99
BL00 Standard: USD $99.99
Alternate: USD $64.99
Addition: USD $29.99
Numbers: USD $34.99
BL00 Numbers: USD $34.99
Aesthetic: USD $29.99
BL00 Aesthetic: USD $29.99
Modern: USD $39.99
BL00 Modern: USD $39.99
Command: USD $24.99
Obscure: USD $39.99
International: USD $69.99


Kit Changelog

+ Standard: Added 2u Spacebar, removed nub homing (moved to Addition), added mod colored R1 1u grave and R1 1.5u pipe, changed the two right Alts to Alt Gr (when editing from Standard B).

+ BL00 Standard: Added mod colored R1 1u grave and R1 1.5u pipe, changed the two right Alts to Alt Gr (when editing from BL00 B).

+ Alternate: [NEW] Adds support for dual colored modifers.

+ Addition: Removed Alpha colored F13, removed 2u Spacebar (moved to Standard), added nub homing.

+ BL00 Numbers: [NEW] Adds numpad and 1800 support for the BL00 colorway.

+ BL00 Aesthetic: [NEW] Adds accent spacebars and arrows for the BL00 colorway.

+ BL00 Modern: [NEW] Adds macOS Icon Support for the BL00 colorway.

+ Obscure: Removed 2u Spacebar (moved to Standard)

+ International: Now supports both pink and BL00 colorways. Added R4 1u pipe, added BL00 ISO enters, added BL00 R4 1.25u Shift, Removed Alt Gr keys (2nd Alts in Standard were changed to Alt Gr to allow for the removal of the 2x pink and 2x BL00 Alt G keys to make this kit as small as possible)

[Kokaloo]

In the end, we decided to just give EVERYONE what they wanted plus a little more.

no you didn't
why would anybody want a left pink side to go with their r1 they're just gonna be stuck with 20 duplicate keys
people were asking for blue only mods to go with their r1
on top of that you're still running the subpar color despite numerous complaints
people want to see a better product, you can do better

[Zanhana]

In the end, we decided to just give EVERYONE what they wanted plus a little more.

you can do better

I see no evidence of this whatsoever

[upas]

There is no way to make everyone happy with kitting.

I think going with the R1 pink is a good decision. New renders match those colors, and people like the R1 set. If anyone wants to know what it'll look like, a physical product already exists.

Personally, I'm a fan of the new kits.

Base + Numpad for $135 puts the combined price in line with larger $135 base kits, and has just a little less compatibility (but also alice support). Yet those who don't want a numpad only pay $100. Sure, I'd love R3 and R4 PgUp and PgDn but kitting is an exercise in compromises and I think this strikes a great balance.

[dereknt]

In the end, we decided to just give EVERYONE what they wanted plus a little more.

no you didn't
why would anybody want a lift pink side to go with their r1 they're just gonna be stuck with 20 duplicate keys
people were asking for blue only mods to go with their r1
on top of that you're still running the subpar color despite numerous complaints
people want to see a better product, you can do better

KEKW perfect kitting for me. By the time R2 get to me, my R1 alpha would already be shiny knowing GMK is really backed up. So a new set of alpha would gladly be appreciated; even to keep as future back up.
Subpar color to some, perfect color to me. Why do you think you are speaking for everyone?

Especially that it has been color matched already, process should be much faster than having to color match again for BL00 and OG 8008.

[guzzi]

[..]

I think going with the R1 pink is a good decision. [...]

There really is no way to run it again with a corrected pink without ruining your plausible deniability about R1.
Why would you correct something if it supposedly is already close to the renders and the color is just "difficult to capture"?
NGL, re-running 8008 after the drama it caused the first time around is astounding to me, changing the entire kit to the blue theme and trying to avoid resurrecting
the accent-kerfuffle would still have been a smarter move from a corportate/brand perspective.

On a side note: Two GBs I joined utilize a spectrophotometer for colormatching (Bingsu&Perestroika). Why this isn't standard praxis for keysets, at least the ones designed and run by the biggest figureheads and vendors in the community, is beyond me. It is about time this catches on because reading these ever reoccuring straw-grasping arguments about "being difficult to capture" or "subpar lighting conditions" or philosophical discussions about what renders really are in GB threads of sets with botched colormatching is honestly tiring. At this point, there is way too much money involved in keycaps for that sort of stuff.

[konstantin]

GB BEGINS THIS SUNDAY DECEMBER 6-31st

KITS FINALIZED

Looks like I'm a bit late to the party. Well, better late than never...



The proposed course of action here would be to (after fixing row numbers):

• Move R4 #~ to R3.
• Change R1 `¬ to `¬¦.
• Change R1 5%€ to 4$€.
• In Addition, change R4 \| to <>.

More info on the last point can be found here. Basically, make it the same as in GMK Redline.

This set of changes doesn't involve adding or removing any keys, nor changing their sizes, so it should be good to go despite the kits being finalized. In other words, it doesn't require a requote from GMK, it just needs to be communicated to them further down the line. Which shouldn't be a problem for Dixie by any means.

[GarrettSucks]

GB BEGINS THIS SUNDAY DECEMBER 6-31st

KITS FINALIZED

Looks like I'm a bit late to the party. Well, better late than never...

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The proposed course of action here would be to (after fixing row numbers):

• Move R4 #~ to R3.
• Change R1 `¬ to `¬¦.
• Change R1 5%€ to 4$€.
• In Addition, change R4 \| to <>.

More info on the last point can be found here. Basically, make it the same as in GMK Redline.

This set of changes doesn't involve adding or removing any keys, nor changing their sizes, so it should be good to go despite the kits being finalized. In other words, it doesn't require a requote from GMK, it just needs to be communicated to them further down the line. Which shouldn't be a problem for Dixie by any means.

Oh, this is totally my mistake on copying and pasting the row labels from another kit and not adjusting them. Thank you for bringing this up!

As usual, I appreciate your comments.

[cadrev]

oh it's so sad that the Pink "X" is now turned to a Rama novelty when the first run had included it in the kiting for accent, i guess it's a pass for me

[HappyB0T]

oh it's so sad that the Pink "X" is now turned to a Rama novelty when the first run had included it in the kiting for accent, i guess it's a pass for me

It really sums up the vibe of the kit and the pink x was removed from the base kit. Was there a reason for this ?

I did request a simple x for a rama & blue support - thank you

[konstantin]

Oh, this is totally my mistake on copying and pasting the row labels from another kit and not adjusting them. Thank you for bringing this up!

As usual, I appreciate your comments.

[some1ab]

boob returns!

[Visionaire]

Thanks for listening to the feedback, Dixie. Kits look nice. I'll be in for Bloo

[andtar2]

Looks like I'm a bit late to the party. Well, better late than never...

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The proposed course of action here would be to (after fixing row numbers):

• Move R4 #~ to R3.
• Change R1 `¬ to `¬¦.
• Change R1 5%€ to 4$€.
• In Addition, change R4 \| to <>.

More info on the last point can be found here. Basically, make it the same as in GMK Redline.

This set of changes doesn't involve adding or removing any keys, nor changing their sizes, so it should be good to go despite the kits being finalized. In other words, it doesn't require a requote from GMK, it just needs to be communicated to them further down the line. Which shouldn't be a problem for Dixie by any means.

Oh, this is totally my mistake on copying and pasting the row labels from another kit and not adjusting them. Thank you for bringing this up!

As usual, I appreciate your comments.

Please do not remove 5%€ it is used in Swedish layout. Both 4$ and 5% are in base, so why would you change one for another?