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Offline SJHL

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #400 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:20:57 »
Hasu, thanks again!

Not sure if this has been mentioned already but the PCB fits perfectly with Tex Acrylic case (See picture below).


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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #401 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:29:06 »
I've always wanted an ALPS 60% board, I kinda suck at soldering though...

If anyone in the UK needs a plastic 60% case I've got them on my webstore? (shameless plug)
If you get in round 3, I'll be happy to solder it for you.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #402 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:31:47 »
Nice job SJHL. that plate looks like it was custom CNC'd!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #403 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:46:17 »
Nice job SJHL. that plate looks like it was custom CNC'd!

No joke! I am stunned by the appearance of that plate. Well done!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #404 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:57:19 »
Thank you!

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #405 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 16:16:19 »
Thank you!
I also like how you put a white on the capslock I'm definitely going to copy that :P

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #406 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 16:18:46 »
That's probably a locking cream alps. At least I hope it is haha. I have one on the function layer key on my Minitouch.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #407 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 16:46:08 »
Yeah, it's a lock switch. Figured that I should use it since I had one.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #408 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:25:13 »
Lovely job, is the TEX acrylic case available anywhere other than MD?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #409 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:15:29 »
Lovely job, is the TEX acrylic case available anywhere other than MD?

Currently exclusive to Massdrop. The current buy ends in 2 days.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #410 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:41:09 »
I'm going to end up waiting until late August to get my metal TEX from MD. Such is life.
The Alps cover 65% of Switzerland's surface area (41,285 kmē), making it one of the most alpine countries. Despite the fact that Switzerland covers only 14% of the Alps total area (192,753 kmē),[2][3] many alpine four-thousanders (48 of 82) are located in the Swiss Alps and practically all of the remaining few are within 20 km of the country's border.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #411 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 12:20:05 »
Took some pictures of my completed board:
http://imgur.com/a/DZXiZ

Thanks Hasu for the PCB and Nubb for the plate!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #412 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 12:21:31 »
Took some pictures of my completed board:
http://imgur.com/a/DZXiZ

Thanks Hasu for the PCB and Nubb for the plate!
This looks great! I really hope there is a 3rd round.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #413 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 19:22:03 »
I will definitely take a Round 3 PCB.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #414 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 00:43:12 »
That's probably a locking cream alps. At least I hope it is haha. I have one on the function layer key on my Minitouch.

So then I'm assuming the TMK firmware supports this?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #415 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 00:44:46 »
I'm curious about how to implement this as well. I'm planning on using a locking switch for my build.
The Alps cover 65% of Switzerland's surface area (41,285 kmē), making it one of the most alpine countries. Despite the fact that Switzerland covers only 14% of the Alps total area (192,753 kmē),[2][3] many alpine four-thousanders (48 of 82) are located in the Swiss Alps and practically all of the remaining few are within 20 km of the country's border.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #416 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 00:47:27 »
I'm curious about how to implement this as well. I'm planning on using a locking switch for my build.

Tmk has support for locking switches I believe. Haven't read the documentation for it though
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #417 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 00:50:54 »
Hasu has documentation for capslock, numlock, and scroll lock, with a locking switch  but I haven't seen documentation for fn lock with a locking switch. Perhaps I missed or misread something.
The Alps cover 65% of Switzerland's surface area (41,285 kmē), making it one of the most alpine countries. Despite the fact that Switzerland covers only 14% of the Alps total area (192,753 kmē),[2][3] many alpine four-thousanders (48 of 82) are located in the Swiss Alps and practically all of the remaining few are within 20 km of the country's border.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #418 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 01:01:48 »
Ah, I see. Didn't realize you were talking about the fn key.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #419 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 02:50:49 »

Hasu has documentation for capslock, numlock, and scroll lock, with a locking switch  but I haven't seen documentation for fn lock with a locking switch. Perhaps I missed or misread something.

If you use a locking switch in place of an momentary fn switch, you are all set. Just put it there and enjoy the locking function :) The thing with caps lock, scroll lock and num lock is that the "locking" is normally done in the software. Makes putting a locking switch there instead a bit harder as you need to adapt the firmware (no problem at all in TMK).

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #420 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 04:34:50 »
Has anyone looked into replacement PBT spacebars that would match an AEKII set?

Does anyone know the size of the AEKII spacebar? I might look around and see if we can find a PBT alternative.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #421 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 13:05:25 »
Has anyone looked into replacement PBT spacebars that would match an AEKII set?

Does anyone know the size of the AEKII spacebar? I might look around and see if we can find a PBT alternative.
Matias is working on ALPS PBT caps and there are multiple sizes of spacebar. There might be one that fits AEKII.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #423 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:10:27 »
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and done!

Those mod colors are perfect! Well done!
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #424 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:11:28 »
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« Reply #425 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:33:38 »

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and done!

Nice dye job! Is it Dylon? What colors did you use?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #426 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 15:36:53 »
Has anyone looked into replacement PBT spacebars that would match an AEKII set?

Does anyone know the size of the AEKII spacebar? I might look around and see if we can find a PBT alternative.
Matias is working on ALPS PBT caps and there are multiple sizes of spacebar. There might be one that fits AEKII.

If the white PBT caps they're making end up being the same shade of white as their ABS ones then they are going to be a very bright white.  I guess you could try to dye some to color match.
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #427 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 16:11:31 »

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and done!

Nice dye job! Is it Dylon? What colors did you use?

I bought a old mac keyboard with those modifiers, so I stole them from it :), I'll look it up tomorrow . so not that hardcore.. ;)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #428 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:21:10 »
Which mac keyboard did you get it from?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #429 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:27:28 »
Believe some of the datadesk adb keyboards?, also had a rounded f row that was a different color
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #430 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:34:12 »
Believe some of the datadesk adb keyboards?, also had a rounded f row that was a different color

Yep I was just about to say that. I had one when I was a kid. Had it for my Macintosh.

Here are pics of the DATADESK Lil'Big Board ADB keyboard that I'm guessing he used.










Oh and don't get the LittleFingers. It is not Alps and the keycaps are too small anyway.

There is a review of it by xDezor Here

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39350.0

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« Reply #431 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 19:52:18 »
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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #432 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 22:40:25 »

Believe some of the datadesk adb keyboards?, also had a rounded f row that was a different color

Yep I was just about to say that. I had one when I was a kid. Had it for my Macintosh.

Here are pics of the DATADESK Lil'Big Board ADB keyboard that I'm guessing he used.

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Oh and don't get the LittleFingers. It is not Alps and the keycaps are too small anyway.

There is a review of it by xDezor Here

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39350.0

Great info! Thanks! :D

I should look for one of those... :)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #433 on: Fri, 17 July 2015, 23:03:28 »
I brought my new Alps 60% home this evening and got it set up on my Ubuntu desktop. I recently downsized my home office space, and a smaller keyboard is a really welcome change so far. I also spent a good bit of time this evening learning the TMK firmware and setting up my first custom config. I'm mainly a Dvorak user, but I often need to go back to QWERTY for certain things, including games. I'm also thinking about learning Colemak. So I borrowed the layout-switching idea from Poker-style boards (Fn+Q for QWERTY, Fn+D for Dvorak, etc.), and the HHKB layer from hasu's config (with Enter and Space as my momentary HHKB layer toggles), and frankensteined a setup that so far seems pretty solid for my use case.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #434 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 04:28:43 »
Believe some of the datadesk adb keyboards?, also had a rounded f row that was a different color

Yep I was just about to say that. I had one when I was a kid. Had it for my Macintosh.

Here are pics of the DATADESK Lil'Big Board ADB keyboard that I'm guessing he used.

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Oh and don't get the LittleFingers. It is not Alps and the keycaps are too small anyway.

There is a review of it by xDezor Here

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39350.0

ye it was a lil big Datadesk
it had fake alps in it and one black on enter. i bought it just because i wanted the colored modifiers.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #435 on: Sat, 18 July 2015, 08:12:59 »
Believe some of the datadesk adb keyboards?, also had a rounded f row that was a different color

Yep I was just about to say that. I had one when I was a kid. Had it for my Macintosh.

Here are pics of the DATADESK Lil'Big Board ADB keyboard that I'm guessing he used.

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Oh and don't get the LittleFingers. It is not Alps and the keycaps are too small anyway.

There is a review of it by xDezor Here

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39350.0

ye it was a lil big Datadesk
it had fake alps in it and one black on enter. i bought it just because i wanted the colored modifiers.
Well great find! I have been looking for one of these for years... With the colored modifiers or not, but all I can find is the littlefingers one.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #436 on: Sun, 19 July 2015, 14:36:00 »
oh man Hasu, you are killing my freetime with this tmk firmware. now i have to create a million layers

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #437 on: Mon, 20 July 2015, 20:07:36 »
oh man Hasu, you are killing my freetime with this tmk firmware. now i have to create a million layers

I was really tempted to do the same thing. But I ended up scrapping the mouse layers so I just have a HHKB function layer (triggered by either Space or Enter), and switchable QWERTY/Colemak/Dvorak layers. But it was still super fun learning the firmware and customizing my layout.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #438 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 01:21:00 »
This tapping function keys didn't work that great for me. I guess I tap too slow.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #439 on: Tue, 21 July 2015, 19:49:38 »
This tapping function keys didn't work that great for me. I guess I tap too slow.

I don't think it's based on speed. I think it just waits until you release the key to trigger the action. For example when I press space down and hold it, nothing happens. If I press another key in my function layer while still holding it, the function layer's action is executed. But if I let up the space bar without pressing any other keys, no matter how long I held it down, the space character will appear onscreen.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #440 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 22:35:16 »
 :D :D :D Round 3?  ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #441 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 00:27:10 »
I'll part with leftover from round 2 before starting round 3 :D

Several preassembled PCBs are available, which have cosmetic flaws like scars, blur silk prints or etc but they work functionally without problem. PM me if you are interested in getting one.

It costs 35(PCB)+10(Shipping)=$45USD in total and see the first post for the detail.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #442 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 05:57:57 »


I'll part with leftover from round 2 before starting round 3 :D

Several preassembled PCBs are available, which have cosmetic flaws like scars, blur silk prints or etc but they work functionally without problem. PM me if you are interested in getting one.

It costs 35(PCB)+10(Shipping)=$45USD in total and see the first post for the detail.

So sorry if this is bad for saying, but no discounts on the cosmetic defects or is this because there is no margin? If that is the case. I can understand that. Can you at least show us a example of what one of these cosmetic defects look like?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #443 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 07:15:39 »
As I said before all PCBs had more or less defects unfortunately because of sloppy production by cheap mediocre PCB house. The leftovers are a bit worse than others.

http://i.imgur.com/T4OilAr.jpg

Ugly silk prints and exposure of copper.




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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #444 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 07:36:33 »
As I said before all PCBs had more or less defects unfortunately because of sloppy production by cheap mediocre PCB house. The leftovers are a bit worse than others.

http://i.imgur.com/T4OilAr.jpg

Ugly silk prints and exposure of copper.

Oh... that's not so bad. I was thinking way worse. I will be fine with one of those. PM coming your way.

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #445 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 08:30:25 »
Now I have to wait until the 11th of next month to buy a leftover PCB, already exploded my budget for keyboards.  :'(

I just hope that they are still available by that date...

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #446 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 14:12:27 »
I just PM'd you about one of the extra boards :>

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #447 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 14:26:54 »
Now I have to wait until the 11th of next month to buy a leftover PCB, already exploded my budget for keyboards.  :'(

I just hope that they are still available by that date...

Shoot i hear that. I need to sell some stuff off so i can take on this as a project :-/

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #448 on: Thu, 23 July 2015, 15:19:24 »
Hopefully I responded in time. I've responded to Hasu's reply-PM about one of the boards.

Should go with that plate I just bought quite nicely ... now, where to get those weird stabilizers?

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Re: [GB] 60% ALPS PCB
« Reply #449 on: Fri, 24 July 2015, 04:35:28 »
sent a pm as well.