I have permission/encouragement to give credit were credit is due - Asilan has done a lot of hard work on the Cad files at the end.
We started with Hubble's files, YukTsi redid them, and then the final changes were done by Asilan and everyone's hard work is greatly appreciated. Limitz has given me endless encouragement when I've been ready to flush this down the drain and has kept me going many times when I started to say "screw it" and close the thread.
Sorry about the delay - I had a family function and was delayed.
These are the approximate prices, they might be lower but they certainly shouldn't be higher.
Mira SE
Stainless weight and aluminum plate $ 400
Brass weight and aluminum plate $ 385
Steel weight and steel plate $ 420
Brass weight and steel plate $ 400
That is as close to the stated goal of $400 as I can get.
Thanks again for your patience with me.
This looks great, I like it more the Orion V2 since it's less flashy. I'm interested.
Interested in this. ICs for TKLs have been popping up lately, I gotta make my choice soon.
Talk to mistakemistake about the milling. He might give you a good price to do the work.
I also plan for the cost of the Mira to be under the price of the Orion, not to mention the boards will likely be shipping from the US removing a great deal of cost from the buyer. :thumb:
I also plan for the cost of the Mira to be under the price of the Orion, not to mention the boards will likely be shipping from the US removing a great deal of cost from the buyer. :thumb:
I'm basically sold!
Would like #13 please. ;D
(Alternatively would also accept #7)
This looks incredible! Depending on my finances when this launches I will tentatively be down for one in dark grey.
I do think its worth pointing out, and you may already be aware, but the renders of your plates all look like they suffer form the same design flaw that the original Phantom plates did where there was an extra tab of metal on all the 2u stabilized keys that prevented you from opening the switch top. Example (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=53761.msg1245309#msg1245309)
You're right, but the plate isnt finalized. The final design will include notches for switch top removal for sure. As a modder myself I wouldn't have it any other way :thumb: I will likely render a new plate as well as some blockers this weekend.
I also plan for the cost of the Mira to be under the price of the Orion, not to mention the boards will likely be shipping from the US removing a great deal of cost from the buyer. :thumb:
I'm basically sold!
Would like #13 please. ;D
(Alternatively would also accept #7)
Interested, want a pink one :-X i know, probably not going to happen
I have few questions:
For built in blockers for 84 keys, do you mean the blockers are connected to the top part of the case?
Will this uses 7075 alu or 6061 alu?
Will acrylic plate be available?
Will hard anodizing be available as an option?
Anyways, I am interested in this :-*
Btw, I would like #002 and #100
Interested, want a pink one :-X i know, probably not going to happen
I have few questions:
For built in blockers for 84 keys, do you mean the blockers are connected to the top part of the case?
Will this uses 7075 alu or 6061 alu?
Will acrylic plate be available?
Will hard anodizing be available as an option?
Anyways, I am interested in this :-*
Btw, I would like #002 and #100
The blockers will be part of the top of the case yes ^-^
dont know the type of alu yet, will need to get a milling recourse straitened out first.
it may be possible to do an acrylic plate however I am hesitant since I dont want to overcomplicated the buy. Add an acrylic plate and then people want a different PCB color :p
I would love to include hard ano, another thing to be straitened out with the CNC shop :thumb:
Definitely in for the DrHubble! You've done a great job designing the board.
Looking at the renders, it looks like the PCB supports a split backspace (and also short left and right shifts). Will there be a plate option that supports this or would I need to have it PCB mounted to support this specific layout?
Sooooo I know you haven't posted a date yet and you're still working on finding who's gonna mill it, but....any ballpark idea when this might happen? Summerishhh? :3
(Cause I'm so gonna start budgeting now :3)
I think my wallet can handle thatSooooo I know you haven't posted a date yet and you're still working on finding who's gonna mill it, but....any ballpark idea when this might happen? Summerishhh? :3
(Cause I'm so gonna start budgeting now :3)
I am very hesitant to set even a tentative date but summerish is a safe bet :))
Mine as well~ Yeah count me in as definitely. >~>I think my wallet can handle thatSooooo I know you haven't posted a date yet and you're still working on finding who's gonna mill it, but....any ballpark idea when this might happen? Summerishhh? :3
(Cause I'm so gonna start budgeting now :3)
I am very hesitant to set even a tentative date but summerish is a safe bet :))
So if we opt for a winkeyless version, the alu top will have the blockers built in? Also will the PCB will support a split right shift as well as a split backspace?
Interested, want a pink one :-X i know, probably not going to happen
I have few questions:
For built in blockers for 84 keys, do you mean the blockers are connected to the top part of the case?
Will this uses 7075 alu or 6061 alu?
Will acrylic plate be available?
Will hard anodizing be available as an option?
Anyways, I am interested in this :-*
Btw, I would like #002 and #100
The blockers will be part of the top of the case yes ^-^
dont know the type of alu yet, will need to get a milling recourse straitened out first.
it may be possible to do an acrylic plate however I am hesitant since I dont want to overcomplicated the buy. Add an acrylic plate and then people want a different PCB color :p
I would love to include hard ano, another thing to be straitened out with the CNC shop :thumb:
:p :thumb:Definitely in for the DrHubble! You've done a great job designing the board.
Looking at the renders, it looks like the PCB supports a split backspace (and also short left and right shifts). Will there be a plate option that supports this or would I need to have it PCB mounted to support this specific layout?
As previously mentioned I will be working on a plate that accommodates more features. Likely it will be a single plate with cutouts to support 87 and 84 layouts as well as off center/centered caplocks and short/long right shifts. This will be similar to some of LZ's plates in the regards that it is one plate that can be utilized in a variety of ways.
I will also most likely be working on a better mechanism for centering the plate in the case once I have a plate design finalized.
I hope you don't mind that I posted this on Reddit, if you want me to I can delete it.
Oh boy. Move over Korean customs, here come the Connecticut Customs ;)
Looks gorgeous, Dr. H. Hook a fellow Nutmegger up up with #17 :p
So... is it gonna come in some sort of blue is my only question.
Amazing work Dr. Hubble! Those renders look amazing! :thumb:Not possible I'm afraid. Since these cases are anodized and to anodize white isn't possible
I can already hear my wallet begging for mercy, but definitely interested depending on when this happens! xD
Besides the obvious choice of Sifo blue, I would personally really love to see a white version of the case, but maybe its just me.
I generally love the clean looks of white cases and always wondered why there pretty much aren't any white aluminum cases as far as I know,
and white should additionally also go pretty well with the NASA theme in my opinion. :thumb:
Not sure if white can be anodized (kinda guess it can't) but maybe a white powder coat could be an option?
Amazing work Dr. Hubble! Those renders look amazing! :thumb:Not possible I'm afraid. Since these cases are anodized and to anodize white isn't possible
I can already hear my wallet begging for mercy, but definitely interested depending on when this happens! xD
Besides the obvious choice of Sifo blue, I would personally really love to see a white version of the case, but maybe its just me.
I generally love the clean looks of white cases and always wondered why there pretty much aren't any white aluminum cases as far as I know,
and white should additionally also go pretty well with the NASA theme in my opinion. :thumb:
Not sure if white can be anodized (kinda guess it can't) but maybe a white powder coat could be an option?
Aww I was really hoping for some kind of a white too...Amazing work Dr. Hubble! Those renders look amazing! :thumb:Not possible I'm afraid. Since these cases are anodized and to anodize white isn't possible
I can already hear my wallet begging for mercy, but definitely interested depending on when this happens! xD
Besides the obvious choice of Sifo blue, I would personally really love to see a white version of the case, but maybe its just me.
I generally love the clean looks of white cases and always wondered why there pretty much aren't any white aluminum cases as far as I know,
and white should additionally also go pretty well with the NASA theme in my opinion. :thumb:
Not sure if white can be anodized (kinda guess it can't) but maybe a white powder coat could be an option?
Winkeyless PCB are ANSI only right?
Amazing work Dr. Hubble! Those renders look amazing! :thumb:Not possible I'm afraid. Since these cases are anodized and to anodize white isn't possible
I can already hear my wallet begging for mercy, but definitely interested depending on when this happens! xD
Besides the obvious choice of Sifo blue, I would personally really love to see a white version of the case, but maybe its just me.
I generally love the clean looks of white cases and always wondered why there pretty much aren't any white aluminum cases as far as I know,
and white should additionally also go pretty well with the NASA theme in my opinion. :thumb:
Not sure if white can be anodized (kinda guess it can't) but maybe a white powder coat could be an option?
Thx for clearing that up Signature!
And no worries since I was already expecting anodizing to not work with white.
However the OP doesn't specify anodized I think, altho you're probably right that's what it will be...
It would theoretically be possible to powder coat aluminum white tho, right?
If white isn't an option I would definitely choose gunmetal grey.
Or maybe make a non anodized version for diy powder coats? xD
Yeah, white will likely not be an option since I would like to stick to anodization for this. That said, if you want a powder coated board there is nothing stopping you from doing that yourself!
Yeah, white will likely not be an option since I would like to stick to anodization for this. That said, if you want a powder coated board there is nothing stopping you from doing that yourself!
Thx for the Info Dr! :thumb:
I can definitely understand you don't want to add the potential extra trouble caused by doing different finishes.
I'm still wondering if you can actually even powder coat (especially anodized) aluminum...
I will probably stick with the original finish tho, because I don't really want to risk bringing a beautifully piece like this
to a shop and trust them with powder coating it. :)
(The additional thickness of a powder coat might very well also cause issues with tolerances, especially on for example the Mira inlay I guess)
So ruling out powder coating for now, I would vote for (gunmetal) grey! xD
So... is it gonna come in some sort of blue is my only question.
Well I was rooting to get "sifo blue" added to the list :p
Yeah, white will likely not be an option since I would like to stick to anodization for this. That said, if you want a powder coated board there is nothing stopping you from doing that yourself!
Thx for the Info Dr! :thumb:
I can definitely understand you don't want to add the potential extra trouble caused by doing different finishes.
I'm still wondering if you can actually even powder coat (especially anodized) aluminum...
I will probably stick with the original finish tho, because I don't really want to risk bringing a beautifully piece like this
to a shop and trust them with powder coating it. :)
(The additional thickness of a powder coat might very well also cause issues with tolerances, especially on for example the Mira inlay I guess)
So ruling out powder coating for now, I would vote for (gunmetal) grey! xD
You could always use Rainbow Paint & Blasting in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. That's who most Geekhackers have been using for powdercoating, and I understand they are very good at it. Ask for Tammi, and tell her you're from Geekhack.
http://rainbowrpb.com/
Sending it in won't be an issue I guess, except for the shipping cost pain from Germany (which you kinda get used to xD )
and also knowing its in good hands and the reduced risk probably makes up for that....
Ill definitely check out the possibility and contact them! =)
Sending it in won't be an issue I guess, except for the shipping cost pain from Germany (which you kinda get used to xD )
and also knowing its in good hands and the reduced risk probably makes up for that....
Ill definitely check out the possibility and contact them! =)
One thing you could do, if you have a US proxy, is to get your proxy to send just the case to Rainbow for you, and hold the rest of the kit. Then, when they received the case back from Rainbow, they could mail it on to you in Germany.
Sending it in won't be an issue I guess, except for the shipping cost pain from Germany (which you kinda get used to xD )
and also knowing its in good hands and the reduced risk probably makes up for that....
Ill definitely check out the possibility and contact them! =)
One thing you could do, if you have a US proxy, is to get your proxy to send just the case to Rainbow for you, and hold the rest of the kit. Then, when they received the case back from Rainbow, they could mail it on to you in Germany.
Good point JD!
I don't really have a US proxy to use atm, but there is services that offer just that to allow you to for example order things that would usually be conus only.
I've never really looked into this before tbh since the additional expense, risk and effort always felt kinda off putting, but I should probably read up on it.
On the other hand I'm wondering if I (incase I end up going the powder coating route) couldn't just have it delivered to Rainbow straight away, so they can powder coat the case before
mailing it to me...
Sending it in won't be an issue I guess, except for the shipping cost pain from Germany (which you kinda get used to xD )
and also knowing its in good hands and the reduced risk probably makes up for that....
Ill definitely check out the possibility and contact them! =)
One thing you could do, if you have a US proxy, is to get your proxy to send just the case to Rainbow for you, and hold the rest of the kit. Then, when they received the case back from Rainbow, they could mail it on to you in Germany.
Good point JD!
I don't really have a US proxy to use atm, but there is services that offer just that to allow you to for example order things that would usually be conus only.
I've never really looked into this before tbh since the additional expense, risk and effort always felt kinda off putting, but I should probably read up on it.
On the other hand I'm wondering if I (incase I end up going the powder coating route) couldn't just have it delivered to Rainbow straight away, so they can powder coat the case before
mailing it to me...
If they do that for you I'm sure it will be with the stipulation that you not tell anyone about it. They most likely don't want to be in the proxy shipping business.
Hopefully those of you with # preferences can find a way to land your preference. Maybe you can arrange for a swap with whomever gets the number you want. Of course, the only catch would be if you want one of the gold stab numbers, you may need to pay the other party a premium.Please no bidding wars while the buy is still going on :p If you want to try and trade afterwards for a premium that would be more acceptable. :))
Personally, I hope to get a number between 1-100.
At any point did you consider allowing reservations? I know it might make things a pain in a lot of ways but just curious.Hopefully those of you with # preferences can find a way to land your preference. Maybe you can arrange for a swap with whomever gets the number you want. Of course, the only catch would be if you want one of the gold stab numbers, you may need to pay the other party a premium.Please no bidding wars while the buy is still going on If you want to try and trade afterwards for a premium that would be more acceptable. :))
Personally, I hope to get a number between 1-100.
Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.
No, I don't want to discourage people from participating in the GB just because a number they like was taken :)) it also becomes a pain when people reserve one then do not pay. Trust me, this will be fun :thumb:At any point did you consider allowing reservations? I know it might make things a pain in a lot of ways but just curious.Hopefully those of you with # preferences can find a way to land your preference. Maybe you can arrange for a swap with whomever gets the number you want. Of course, the only catch would be if you want one of the gold stab numbers, you may need to pay the other party a premium.Please no bidding wars while the buy is still going on If you want to try and trade afterwards for a premium that would be more acceptable. :))
Personally, I hope to get a number between 1-100.
Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Fair enough. I suppose if someone really wants it in a different color they can make the trade for the right number then pay to have it stripped and re-anodized.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.
I think the anodization makes he aluminum corrosion resistant. LZ has been using SS weights for a while now as well without problems.No, I don't want to discourage people from participating in the GB just because a number they like was taken :)) it also becomes a pain when people reserve one then do not pay. Trust me, this will be fun :thumb:At any point did you consider allowing reservations? I know it might make things a pain in a lot of ways but just curious.Hopefully those of you with # preferences can find a way to land your preference. Maybe you can arrange for a swap with whomever gets the number you want. Of course, the only catch would be if you want one of the gold stab numbers, you may need to pay the other party a premium.Please no bidding wars while the buy is still going on If you want to try and trade afterwards for a premium that would be more acceptable. :))
Personally, I hope to get a number between 1-100.
The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Doc also said he would look into hard anodized finish, which is even thicker. Although maintaining tolerances will be more difficult that way...
I'd assumed this kind of thing would be accounted for. It's just the first time in a couple years I've used the fab + finishing part of my brain... All these considerations are rushing back to me. I'm confident this board will be top-notch.The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Doc also said he would look into hard anodized finish, which is even thicker. Although maintaining tolerances will be more difficult that way...
I have purposely built in margins around the slotted portions of the weight so that the weight can inserted and screwed in without damaging the case. I figure that margin would also allow for hard ano to be a viable option.
I'd assumed this kind of thing would be accounted for. It's just the first time in a couple years I've used the fab + finishing part of my brain... All these considerations are rushing back to me. I'm confident this board will be top-notch.The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Doc also said he would look into hard anodized finish, which is even thicker. Although maintaining tolerances will be more difficult that way...
I have purposely built in margins around the slotted portions of the weight so that the weight can inserted and screwed in without damaging the case. I figure that margin would also allow for hard ano to be a viable option.
How is the acrylic logo going to fit in the cutout? Is it going to be molded in-place?
For a tight fit here you might want to mask off the walls of the logo so the Anodize won't affect the finish size.I'd assumed this kind of thing would be accounted for. It's just the first time in a couple years I've used the fab + finishing part of my brain... All these considerations are rushing back to me. I'm confident this board will be top-notch.The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Doc also said he would look into hard anodized finish, which is even thicker. Although maintaining tolerances will be more difficult that way...
I have purposely built in margins around the slotted portions of the weight so that the weight can inserted and screwed in without damaging the case. I figure that margin would also allow for hard ano to be a viable option.
How is the acrylic logo going to fit in the cutout? Is it going to be molded in-place?
Not finalized yet, it depends on how snug it will fit in. If the milling is precise enough and it fits in tight then it may not require any fixing, otherwise screw holes will likely be added.
For a tight fit here you might want to mask off the walls of the logo so the Anodize won't affect the finish size.I'd assumed this kind of thing would be accounted for. It's just the first time in a couple years I've used the fab + finishing part of my brain... All these considerations are rushing back to me. I'm confident this board will be top-notch.The oxide layer is basically the same hardness as ruby, so it wins the scratch war versus most metals. Also, the parts won't be moving around once assembled.Couldn't the contact between the two pieces cause scratches which could allow it to happen? I guess the chances are really low, nothing to worry about probably.Perhaps someone can explain this, as I have been thinking. Isn't there a risk you are running using stainless steel inserts on an aluminum board? Galvanic corrosion.Anodizing should prevent this since the thick oxide layer is nonconductive. Plus you need significant moisture for galvanic corrosion to occur anyways.
Doc also said he would look into hard anodized finish, which is even thicker. Although maintaining tolerances will be more difficult that way...
I have purposely built in margins around the slotted portions of the weight so that the weight can inserted and screwed in without damaging the case. I figure that margin would also allow for hard ano to be a viable option.
How is the acrylic logo going to fit in the cutout? Is it going to be molded in-place?
Not finalized yet, it depends on how snug it will fit in. If the milling is precise enough and it fits in tight then it may not require any fixing, otherwise screw holes will likely be added.
I would be interested in picking up a blue or gunmetal one for sure.
Potentially interested in a grey board, contingent on price and timing.
Would want ANSI 87. Would also count myself beyond lucky to somehow end up with #18 :P
Potentially interested in a grey board, contingent on price and timing.
Would want ANSI 87. Would also count myself beyond lucky to somehow end up with #18 :P
I'll go on record now, if i stumble upon 18 i would switch it with you if switches are possible. From the renders shouldn't be to hard to switch the weights people get which looks to be the intended engraved spot!
I understand DRHubblePHD hesitance to offer any sort of reservations of numbers, but i cannot see a problem with a friendly switch.
Potentially interested in a grey board, contingent on price and timing.
Would want ANSI 87. Would also count myself beyond lucky to somehow end up with #18 :P
I'll go on record now, if i stumble upon 18 i would switch it with you if switches are possible. From the renders shouldn't be to hard to switch the weights people get which looks to be the intended engraved spot!
I understand DRHubblePHD hesitance to offer any sort of reservations of numbers, but i cannot see a problem with a friendly switch.
As long as it doesn't result in 100 friendly switches worth of administrative burden. At that point, just wait until you get the board and make the swaps via private messages. But if you're correct and the engraving is on the SS insert and not the aluminum chassis, then getting the number you want in the color you want will be cake.
It will, of course, mean that the first 57 may lose some of their special significance, if for instance user 18 ends up with #58 and you trade it with him, unless you also swap out the gold stabs just to keep everything together.
Alternatively, He could just make it so that no one knows what number they go and it's a surprise :D That would be pretty cool also!
So... is it gonna come in some sort of blue is my only question.
Well I was rooting to get "sifo blue" added to the list :p
Thanks to thechemist, even more people will be able to get their Mira soldered with SMD parts before shipping!
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Custom anodizing colors would be crazy cool but expensive. Maybe do batches of 10? 10 people agree to all get a specific color that way we can have more colors but still maintain a reasonable price for anodizing?
Looks really nice might have to get this as my first ever custom keyboard, really like the idea you have behind it too :) Although just my point of view I wouldn't allow people to choose a number as it would make things harder for you and some might not get taken just due to the number :XThe OP says numbers will be issued in a first come, first serve basis. I just think he's given up on trying to dispel the idea of reserved numbers. It's just an interest check, anyway.
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Custom anodizing colors would be crazy cool but expensive. Maybe do batches of 10? 10 people agree to all get a specific color that way we can have more colors but still maintain a reasonable price for anodizing?
Numbers will be assigned in the order the deposits are received. You will not know what number you have gotten till it arrives at your doorstep. That's the current plan.Ahh right thats fine then thanks :) I best start saving as I really want this :X
Numbers will be assigned in the order the deposits are received. You will not know what number you have gotten till it arrives at your doorstep. That's the current plan.
Numbers will be assigned in the order the deposits are received. You will not know what number you have gotten till it arrives at your doorstep. That's the current plan.
Numbers will be assigned in the order the deposits are received. You will not know what number you have gotten till it arrives at your doorstep. That's the current plan.
I think this is the best way to do it!
Before the group buy kicks off are you able to give us an indication of how much a deposit will be, Want to make sure my funds will be ready for the first payment when the GB is live!
How close are you to finding someone for the milling?
How close are you to finding someone for the milling?
Just be patient :p
will there be any sort of assembly services available?
I have a quick question about the design of the case. Forgive my scrub-ness as I am quite new at this :p
But will there me balance issues with the case where if you were to tap semi-heavily on the F-row the case might "tip".... Am I just seing things or being a newb? Please enlighten me with your knowledge Senpais
I have a quick question about the design of the case. Forgive my scrub-ness as I am quite new at this :p
But will there me balance issues with the case where if you were to tap semi-heavily on the F-row the case might "tip".... Am I just seing things or being a newb? Please enlighten me with your knowledge Senpais
Looking at the renders and assuming that the center of mass for the bottom half of the case that is directly over the base will probably be somewhere around the middle of the base closer to the top due to the insert. Then just taking a wild shot in the dark, that the distance of the F-keys to the point it will rotate on looks like it could be about 2x the distance from that point to the center of mass for the bottom of the case, you would have to push with probably 2x the weight of that bottom half to lift it, so probably a handful of pounds. So unless you have a keyboard full of super blacks and are pressing multiple function keys at once, you should be fine.
While the design is overhung I dont expect there to be any issues since the weight will be concentrated in the front. That said, once I get the prototype I will see for sure :thumb:
Wow, this is an amazing looking board... I might need to rethink what buys I'm going to be joining in the near future... Or I'm going to have to rob a bank or two.
I have updated the plate and have added blockers. I will render some new photos this evening!
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
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*note to self: don't render with a black background, the sides become grainy.
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:'( love the last one, please make it
Wow, this is an amazing looking board... I might need to rethink what buys I'm going to be joining in the near future... Or I'm going to have to rob a bank or two.
Get a 2nd job like pizza delivery or something. Put all your tips towards this board. You can make it happen.
The second job has the added benefit that you'll have no spare time to spend the extra money.Wow, this is an amazing looking board... I might need to rethink what buys I'm going to be joining in the near future... Or I'm going to have to rob a bank or two.
Get a 2nd job like pizza delivery or something. Put all your tips towards this board. You can make it happen.
Ahaha, I already work a full-time job as IT Support. So I think I might just have to sell some stuff.
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:'( love the last one, please make it
Says you with the 456 :(
:p I will never get enough pink keyboard
Hey Doc, how will this GB run? Do you have your own website to handle orders & checkouts or will you be using a 3rd party?
Since it's a limited run with an early bird incentive, do you anticipate any capacity issues (DDoS)?Hey Doc, how will this GB run? Do you have your own website to handle orders & checkouts or will you be using a 3rd party?
Checkout will most likely go through my site (in order to secure # positions). I'll be setting up the options once we get quotes in. The number you get will not be disclosed until it arrives at your doorstep.
Since it's a limited run with an early bird incentive, do you anticipate any capacity issues (DDoS)?Hey Doc, how will this GB run? Do you have your own website to handle orders & checkouts or will you be using a 3rd party?
Checkout will most likely go through my site (in order to secure # positions). I'll be setting up the options once we get quotes in. The number you get will not be disclosed until it arrives at your doorstep.
:p I will never get enough pink keyboard
Seconded.
:p I will never get enough pink keyboard
Seconded.
Another 4k Render @ 100 passesShow Image(http://puu.sh/gTJH2/eb6a88d763.jpg)
Since it's a limited run with an early bird incentive, do you anticipate any capacity issues (DDoS)?Hey Doc, how will this GB run? Do you have your own website to handle orders & checkouts or will you be using a 3rd party?
Checkout will most likely go through my site (in order to secure # positions). I'll be setting up the options once we get quotes in. The number you get will not be disclosed until it arrives at your doorstep.
Unless you guys intentionally ddos my service provider, I don't see any issues arising. I've already set up my site to handle high loads (which handled the Gateron spike of orders with no problems).
:p I will never get enough pink keyboard
Seconded.
Another 4k Render @ 100 passesShow Image(http://puu.sh/gTJH2/eb6a88d763.jpg)
I'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
What about a mix of Red, White, and Blue, like the NASA Logo? Maybe red mods, blue alphas, white text, or blue mods, red alphas, white text, or maybe white mods and alphas, with a combination or blue and red for the alphas and mods textI'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
Design it! :D
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Just for fun:Show Image(http://puu.sh/gTyXh/347acdbc93.jpg)
*note to self: don't render with a black background, the sides become grainy.
What about a mix of Red, White, and Blue, like the NASA Logo? Maybe red mods, blue alphas, white text, or blue mods, red alphas, white text, or maybe white mods and alphas, with a combination or blue and red for the alphas and mods textI'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
Design it! :D
Gotta make at least one #gold render too. :P
4k, 100+ passes as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZZGmq.jpg)
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... this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
Gotta make at least one #gold render too. :P
4k, 100+ passes as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZZGmq.jpg)
Gotta make at least one #gold render too. :PI need this
4k, 100+ passes as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZZGmq.jpg)
Gotta make at least one #gold render too. :P
4k, 100+ passes as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZZGmq.jpg)
Another 4k Render @ 100 passesShow Image(http://puu.sh/gTJH2/eb6a88d763.jpg)
I'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.Already decided that I will be putting a GMK Hyperfuse set on this. :cool:
I'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
Design it! :D
Metallic blue anyone? This time in WKL!
As always, 4k render. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NYDKVJ7.jpg)
Metallic blue anyone? This time in WKL!
As always, 4k render. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NYDKVJ7.jpg)
Metallic blue anyone? This time in WKL!
As always, 4k render. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NYDKVJ7.jpg)
Can I have one yet?
Metallic blue anyone? This time in WKL!
As always, 4k render. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NYDKVJ7.jpg)
Can I have one yet?
I know right XD
Just gives me something to look forward to
Metallic blue anyone? This time in WKL!
As always, 4k render. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NYDKVJ7.jpg)
Winkeyless blockers, updated case height, and a new plate to boot :thumb:
plate now has cutouts for easy switch removal, stepped caps lock, short right shift, and compatibility for 87 and 84 key layouts!
I like some of these colored renders, but dies anyone else feel apprehensive about choosing a color that might potentially limit your cap options on such a pricey custom board?
I like some of these colored renders, but dies anyone else feel apprehensive about choosing a color that might potentially limit your cap options on such a pricey custom board?
I am in that boat, but it's really personal preference. I am sure that there will be MOQ attached to the color options, or only a few offered. I wouldn't worry if you want a more neutral color there will be at least one sort of grey/silver offered (assumption on my part). I know i will be jumping on a darker gey/gunmetal if that option is offered. Otherwise, i will asses what is there and get the next best one i like, be it silver, black, etc etc..
Need to round off those sharp edges inside the arrow cluster with the same radius as the rest of the corners.
Need to round off those sharp edges inside the arrow cluster with the same radius as the rest of the corners.
I had this conversation earlier with Zeal. Many customs such as the Corsa or the 356cl have those two corners un-filleted. Honestly when I use the same radius it looks weird. I may add a more subtle curve, but overall it will probably stay that way.
Need to round off those sharp edges inside the arrow cluster with the same radius as the rest of the corners.
I had this conversation earlier with Zeal. Many customs such as the Corsa or the 356cl have those two corners un-filleted. Honestly when I use the same radius it looks weird. I may add a more subtle curve, but overall it will probably stay that way.
I'm currently transitioning to 60% boards but I really want to see this board made. I think the Mira will put the KMAC and the 356 to shame. The right key set on this board is going to take it to the next level. Something with a full SA profile would look good, but really, this board needs a key set designed specifically for it.
Design it! :D
I used the custom key set designer on WASD to create this and added a mockup of one of Booper's astronaut key caps.
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With the site's limited color options, I tried to make a colorway inspired by the lunar surface. I think it would look good on the gray keyboard in the OP and on the pink render created by Zeal. But I think the Mira needs a more polished design for its key set.
I tried making something to reflect the theme of the binary star but it looks awful.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/37dd711f75e80c0e0255a4195b1c5c1c (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/37dd711f75e80c0e0255a4195b1c5c1c)
Image of Mira
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It's not practical, but I think a set of backlit black keys without alphanumeric legends but with legends resembling the night sky would look awesome. The assembled alpha and mod keys would look something like this.
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I like some of these colored renders, but dies anyone else feel apprehensive about choosing a color that might potentially limit your cap options on such a pricey custom board?
I am in that boat, but it's really personal preference. I am sure that there will be MOQ attached to the color options, or only a few offered. I wouldn't worry if you want a more neutral color there will be at least one sort of grey/silver offered (assumption on my part). I know i will be jumping on a darker gey/gunmetal if that option is offered. Otherwise, i will asses what is there and get the next best one i like, be it silver, black, etc etc..
Yes, these colors are mostly just for fun. It is likely that the final buy will contain only one or two of these "exotic" colors.
just curious: is the logo milled into/ through the surface or is it a sticker? If milled, any chance of ordering without? It's a cool design, don't get me wrong, jus not a fan of logos.
just curious: is the logo milled into/ through the surface or is it a sticker? If milled, any chance of ordering without? It's a cool design, don't get me wrong, jus not a fan of logos.
Would also like to know about no top logo? I wouldn't be using any LEDs other then the lock keys anyways.
I am not the biggest fan of the acrylic insert, i would prefer to be able to use a alu insert and possibly in a different color, although i don't see this being feasible in the as i am probably a minority.
just curious: is the logo milled into/ through the surface or is it a sticker? If milled, any chance of ordering without? It's a cool design, don't get me wrong, jus not a fan of logos.
Would also like to know about no top logo? I wouldn't be using any LEDs other then the lock keys anyways.
Well I havent heard back from CNC shops yet, depending on the cost there may be an engraved logo option. Either way there is nothing stopping you from not installing the logo LEDs
just curious: is the logo milled into/ through the surface or is it a sticker? If milled, any chance of ordering without? It's a cool design, don't get me wrong, jus not a fan of logos.
Would also like to know about no top logo? I wouldn't be using any LEDs other then the lock keys anyways.
Well I havent heard back from CNC shops yet, depending on the cost there may be an engraved logo option. Either way there is nothing stopping you from not installing the logo LEDs
I am not the biggest fan of the acrylic insert, i would prefer to be able to use a alu insert and possibly in a different color, although i don't see this being feasible in the as i am probably a minority.
I was actually thinking the same thing about the aluminum insert. The main reason why I wouldn't want the acrylic is because I wouldn't be putting LEDs under it anyway.
Not that the acrylic would keep me from getting one. It just wouldn't be lit up.
I am not the biggest fan of the acrylic insert, i would prefer to be able to use a alu insert and possibly in a different color, although i don't see this being feasible in the as i am probably a minority.
I was actually thinking the same thing about the aluminum insert. The main reason why I wouldn't want the acrylic is because I wouldn't be putting LEDs under it anyway.
Not that the acrylic would keep me from getting one. It just wouldn't be lit up.
For me, i am really not sure if i would use it with LED's or not under the logo, i would like to see it in action or test it myself to see how i felt.
Then if i didn't like it and there was an option for the alu insert i would jump on it, if not to change the feel every now and then. But yeah, i have accepted that if there is only the acrylic insert that is fine by me.
Down for number 69 in lime green ;) (btw, I'll gladly pay for a custom anno color if it comes down to it)
Just for fun:Show Image(http://puu.sh/gTyXh/347acdbc93.jpg)
*note to self: don't render with a black background, the sides become grainy.
Premium CNC milled logo insert would be baller as hell.
Premium CNC milled logo insert would be baller as hell.
Premium CNC milled logo insert would be baller as hell.
I would actually prefer this compared to the acrylic and the engraving. It seems like a good middle ground for having something really unique and for the folks that don't want the clear acrylic.
The only question I have would be would it wiggle? Like would it be a good snug fit? :confused:
Played around with some colour options last night.
Graphite/Dark Gray:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bnt09bD.jpg)
Mint or Cyan?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gJHKfWa.jpg)
Attempt at replicating TA Mod colour (This one ran overnight for 500+ passes, some colour bleed on the plate as the original render turned out too dark, so I tried to fix it up in PS :( )Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qOUjAMe.jpg)
Played around with some colour options last night.
Graphite/Dark Gray:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bnt09bD.jpg)
Mint or Cyan?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gJHKfWa.jpg)
Attempt at replicating TA Mod colour (This one ran overnight for 500+ passes, some colour bleed on the plate as the original render turned out too dark, so I tried to fix it up in PS :( )Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qOUjAMe.jpg)
Is there a white case/white plate render? :-*
full disclosure: too lazy to read entire thread
few questions
price?
gold colorway?
when?
if it's soon i might be able to pass it off to my parents as a birthday present
Is there a white case/white plate render? :-*
It's not possible to anodize white, so that's why there's never been a white anodized case.
well, that would mean selling half my collection...
might be worth it...
Would love to get in on this especially if there is a NASA blue type color. Huge space fan here and am trying to throw my money at you right now. As I'm fairly new to the site aside from lurking a bit is there some sort of mailing list that I can be added to about this?
full disclosure: too lazy to read entire thread
few questions
price?
gold colorway?
when?
if it's soon i might be able to pass it off to my parents as a birthday present
Premium CNC milled logo insert would be baller as hell.CNC milled out of what? A different kind of metal?
CNC machines are so precise and so repeatable that "wiggle" would be a non-issue. In fact, the acrylic insert is likely going to be CNC-machined to fit the cutout.
Premium CNC milled logo insert would be baller as hell.CNC milled out of what? A different kind of metal?
CNC machines are so precise and so repeatable that "wiggle" would be a non-issue. In fact, the acrylic insert is likely going to be CNC-machined to fit the cutout.
No, just out of ALU 6061 or whatever. I mean steel would be cool to go along with the rear weight, but it would probably look sweet to have a grey/silver case with NASA blue anodized aluminum insert. I think it would look much nicer than having an acrylic logo in the middle of a full aluminum+steel board, but I've also never really been a fan of lighted acrylic.
Unfortunately I don't think one of these is in the cards for me right now as I blew my keyboard budget a bit prematurely :)) Still fun to think of possibilities.
Played around with some colour options last night.
Graphite/Dark Gray:MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/bnt09bD.jpg)
Mint or Cyan?MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gJHKfWa.jpg)
Attempt at replicating TA Mod colour (This one ran overnight for 500+ passes, some colour bleed on the plate as the original render turned out too dark, so I tried to fix it up in PS :( )MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qOUjAMe.jpg)
Looking really nice all these renders, I would be sad now if you went live and by the time I woke up they where gone :X 1+ For NASA Blue though looks like it would be a real nice colour o:
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Its the amount of work between soldering, sourcing parts, and managing all of the components.Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Is that the reason? Is 100 orders massive? I'm not disputing that it's a lot if work and financial investment from everyone involved. I just think that with the interest shown, people would gladly pony up the cash to support a larger buy if that was the limiting factor, rather than missing out entirely.
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Is that the reason? Is 100 orders massive? I'm not disputing that it's a lot if work and financial investment from everyone involved. I just think that with the interest shown, people would gladly pony up the cash to support a larger buy if that was the limiting factor, rather than missing out entirely.
If all goes well, I have another design, something smaller, more affordable that will be open to everyone.A 60% would be cool to have, especially if it follows the same general design
If all goes well, I have another design, something smaller, more affordable that will be open to everyone.A 60% would be cool to have, especially if it follows the same general design
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Is that the reason? Is 100 orders massive? I'm not disputing that it's a lot if work and financial investment from everyone involved. I just think that with the interest shown, people would gladly pony up the cash to support a larger buy if that was the limiting factor, rather than missing out entirely.
At the potential cost of each keyboard, the buy will already be potentially worth a great deal of money. I have liability for all the parts and I don't feel comfortable running a buy that could potentially overwhelm me. Moreover the exclusivity of the buy will add to the resale value of each board, something that is important when you consider the investment participants in this buy will be making.
I promise that if you want a board, and are willing to camp out the group buy thread, you will get one. I cannot promise that someone who stumbles in a week after the thread launches will have the same luxury.
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Is that the reason? Is 100 orders massive? I'm not disputing that it's a lot if work and financial investment from everyone involved. I just think that with the interest shown, people would gladly pony up the cash to support a larger buy if that was the limiting factor, rather than missing out entirely.
At the potential cost of each keyboard, the buy will already be potentially worth a great deal of money. I have liability for all the parts and I don't feel comfortable running a buy that could potentially overwhelm me. Moreover the exclusivity of the buy will add to the resale value of each board, something that is important when you consider the investment participants in this buy will be making.
I promise that if you want a board, and are willing to camp out the group buy thread, you will get one. I cannot promise that someone who stumbles in a week after the thread launches will have the same luxury.
Unless the price is prohibitive, it sure looks like interest exceeds 100 units. I don't think there's any benefit to the community in arbitrarily limiting the run. Is it just to drive up the hype and exclusivity? I hope that if it comes to it, that they will just make a larger order.You realize how difficult it would be to run such a massive groupbuy, right? Even 100 keyboards seems pretty difficult to handle. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Is that the reason? Is 100 orders massive? I'm not disputing that it's a lot if work and financial investment from everyone involved. I just think that with the interest shown, people would gladly pony up the cash to support a larger buy if that was the limiting factor, rather than missing out entirely.
At the potential cost of each keyboard, the buy will already be potentially worth a great deal of money. I have liability for all the parts and I don't feel comfortable running a buy that could potentially overwhelm me. Moreover the exclusivity of the buy will add to the resale value of each board, something that is important when you consider the investment participants in this buy will be making.
I promise that if you want a board, and are willing to camp out the group buy thread, you will get one. I cannot promise that someone who stumbles in a week after the thread launches will have the same luxury.
Well count me in as camping out.
Interest does not always directly relate to actual participation in a GB, I know there is alot of interest. But, i know there has been things i have seen that at the time i was 100% sure i was getting in on, and for whatever reason financial, the next gb looked better. I did not participate. There may not even be 100 units ordered.
Having said that OMG I AM 100% IN TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
Interest does not always directly relate to actual participation in a GB, I know there is alot of interest. But, i know there has been things i have seen that at the time i was 100% sure i was getting in on, and for whatever reason financial, the next gb looked better. I did not participate. There may not even be 100 units ordered.
Having said that OMG I AM 100% IN TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
There are still many unknowns. Costs, options, dates; if any or all of these factors don't line up for certain people they could drop out. Interest doesn't count for much at this stage.
there should be a cost goal though, what the person running is hoping/expecting... its how most things are made (to a price or budget)..
Plenty of great choices for sure! I will try and align the GB so that it gives people some time to recover from the Orion if they would like to participate in it. I also plan for the cost of the Mira to be under the price of the Orion, not to mention the boards will likely be shipping from the US removing a great deal of cost from the buyer. :thumb:
there should be a cost goal though, what the person running is hoping/expecting... its how most things are made (to a price or budget)..Plenty of great choices for sure! I will try and align the GB so that it gives people some time to recover from the Orion if they would like to participate in it. I also plan for the cost of the Mira to be under the price of the Orion, not to mention the boards will likely be shipping from the US removing a great deal of cost from the buyer. :thumb:
[...]Just wanted to add something here, not just for you but also for other people. :)
Great, thanks for the direct explanation. I will be camping. :-)
|Keyboard GB | |Year | |Price | |# Buyers |
|Aluminum poker case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28730.0) | |2012 | |$74 | |26 |
|LZ-GH Edition (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0) | |2013 | |$340 | |44 |
|Geekhack 6th Anniv MX Keychain (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47148.0) | |2013 | |$3 | |130 |
|Orion TKL (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55523.0) | |2014 | |$400 | |13 |
|Lightsaver V2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0) | |2014 | |$295 | |29 |
|Viper and Eagle (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61227.0) | |2014 | |$220 | |76 |
|Octagon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.0) | |2014 | |$295 | |28 |
|TX1800 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.0) | |2015 | |$335 | |60 (?) |
[...]Just wanted to add something here, not just for you but also for other people. :)
Great, thanks for the direct explanation. I will be camping. :-)
Most GroupBuys for custom boards on this forum are quite low volume. It hasn't been until the recent rise of Mechanical Keyboards and the influx of members to the community that we were able to even gather enough people to make projects like this affordable.
For example:
|Keyboard GB |Year |Price |# Buyers |Aluminum poker case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28730.0) |2012 |$74 |26 |LZ-GH Edition (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0) |2013 |$340 |44 |Geekhack 6th Anniv MX Keychain (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47148.0) |2013 |$3 |130 |Orion TKL (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55523.0) |2014 |$400 |13 |Lightsaver V2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0) |2014 |$295 |29 |Viper and Eagle (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61227.0) |2014 |$220 |76 |Octagon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.0) |2014 |$295 |28 |TX1800 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.0) |2015 |$335 |60 (?)
Go ahead and take a look at the GB section from 2012. What you will find is the rise of Signature Plastics thin ABS novelty keys and the very first aluminum Poker cases. ;)
Everything else was either buying hard to find keyboards like the Poker [Sic] or SP keysets in the classic colors.
Oh, and awesome Titanium spacebars (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34407.0). *WANT* :'(
Before... let's say this year it was next to impossible to buy any Korean Custom Keyboards unless you had the right connections. With the recent influx of Korean members heading over our way this has changed quite a bit.
This last 6 months alone we had almost 4 real Korean GBs and at least that many Western ones.
As for the list above; notice the dramatic decrease in buyers as the price rises above the $350 point? ;)
There is a limit to how much people are willing to pay for a board.
The Hubble looks like a $400-500 board (or much more) with all the options for customization.
100 interested people might only translate to 20 actual buyers depending on other factors. When it goes on sale, competing GBs, Tax refunds, Vacation bonuses or how fresh/new a certain layout is all factor in to lead to the success of a GB.
It is awesome to see cool pics like Kin25's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.540).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/d2AuVrs.jpg)
But the reality is that not a single one of the above mentioned GBs even hit 100 buyers and a board that might be as expensive as the priciest one, or even more, is certainly not going to hit that. No matter how cool it might be. :cool:
And that's alright. But always make sure you keep it manageable for yourself.Yeah the buy was originally going to be limited to 57 but because winkeyless offered a price drop on pcbs at the 100 mark, I figured I would open it up for the possibility.[...]Just wanted to add something here, not just for you but also for other people. :)
Great, thanks for the direct explanation. I will be camping. :-)
Most GroupBuys for custom boards on this forum are quite low volume. It hasn't been until the recent rise of Mechanical Keyboards and the influx of members to the community that we were able to even gather enough people to make projects like this affordable.
For example:
|Keyboard GB |Year |Price |# Buyers |Aluminum poker case (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28730.0) |2012 |$74 |26 |LZ-GH Edition (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39571.0) |2013 |$340 |44 |Geekhack 6th Anniv MX Keychain (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47148.0) |2013 |$3 |130 |Orion TKL (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55523.0) |2014 |$400 |13 |Lightsaver V2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0) |2014 |$295 |29 |Viper and Eagle (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61227.0) |2014 |$220 |76 |Octagon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65036.0) |2014 |$295 |28 |TX1800 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.0) |2015 |$335 |60 (?)
Go ahead and take a look at the GB section from 2012. What you will find is the rise of Signature Plastics thin ABS novelty keys and the very first aluminum Poker cases. ;)
Everything else was either buying hard to find keyboards like the Poker [Sic] or SP keysets in the classic colors.
Oh, and awesome Titanium spacebars (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34407.0). *WANT* :'(
Before... let's say this year it was next to impossible to buy any Korean Custom Keyboards unless you had the right connections. With the recent influx of Korean members heading over our way this has changed quite a bit.
This last 6 months alone we had almost 4 real Korean GBs and at least that many Western ones.
As for the list above; notice the dramatic decrease in buyers as the price rises above the $350 point? ;)
There is a limit to how much people are willing to pay for a board.
The Hubble looks like a $400-500 board (or much more) with all the options for customization.
100 interested people might only translate to 20 actual buyers depending on other factors. When it goes on sale, competing GBs, Tax refunds, Vacation bonuses or how fresh/new a certain layout is all factor in to lead to the success of a GB.
It is awesome to see cool pics like Kin25's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68443.540).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/d2AuVrs.jpg)
But the reality is that not a single one of the above mentioned GBs even hit 100 buyers and a board that might be as expensive as the priciest one, or even more, is certainly not going to hit that. No matter how cool it might be. :cool:
Thanks for that background information and further explanation, it really helped me get a better perspective.No problem. :)
Played around with some colour options last night.
Graphite/Dark Gray:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bnt09bD.jpg)
I would probably end up choosing either a dark grey or bluish grey
At the potential cost of each keyboard, the buy will already be potentially worth a great deal of money. I have liability for all the parts and I don't feel comfortable running a buy that could potentially overwhelm me. Moreover the exclusivity of the buy will add to the resale value of each board, something that is important when you consider the investment participants in this buy will be making.
I promise that if you want a board, and are willing to camp out the group buy thread, you will get one. I cannot promise that someone who stumbles in a week after the thread launches will have the same luxury.
If all goes well, I have another design, something smaller, more affordable that will be open to everyone.
Update: I spoke with a potential milling recourse, it may be far more cost efficient to simply engrave the "Mira" logo onto the top of the case. Moreover, the logo may not look right cut through hole seeing that rounded drill bits will not be able to get defined corners on the font.
I would be interested to hear if this would deter anyone from buying seeing that it will likely lower the cost considerably. I should have a quote in the next day or two, but the estimate he gave me on the spot seemed very reasonable after the alterations are made to the logo. :thumb:
Update: I spoke with a potential milling recourse, it may be far more cost efficient to simply engrave the "Mira" logo onto the top of the case. Moreover, the logo may not look right cut through hole seeing that rounded drill bits will not be able to get defined corners on the font.
I would be interested to hear if this would deter anyone from buying seeing that it will likely lower the cost considerably. I should have a quote in the next day or two, but the estimate he gave me on the spot seemed very reasonable after the alterations are made to the logo. :thumb:
Do you mind disclosing the cost estimate pre and post changing the logo?
I for one would still buy with an engraved logo instead of the cutout. That said, would there be anything on the board that lights up then?The b.Mira PCB supports full backlighting on all switches, but in terms of case elements, probably not if we choose to go with engraving.
It seems a shame to lose the lighting altogether. What if the front just had the two circles cut through and the rest of the logo engraved? That would be a much simpler cutting operation than the whole logo.
I think I would actually rather have the engraving over the cutout
Update: I spoke with a potential milling recourse, it may be far more cost efficient to simply engrave the "Mira" logo onto the top of the case. Moreover, the logo may not look right cut through hole seeing that rounded drill bits will not be able to get defined corners on the font.
I would be interested to hear if this would deter anyone from buying seeing that it will likely lower the cost considerably. I should have a quote in the next day or two, but the estimate he gave me on the spot seemed very reasonable after the alterations are made to the logo. :thumb:
I guess I'm in the minority, but I would prefer the cutout -- it's something that feels unique to this board. Without that, it's almost like this is just another aluminum board with an engraved logo.
Won't stop me from buying either way, but just throwing it out there.
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
Please this.
Design by comity is bad and has always been bad for a reason.
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
Please this.
Design by comity is bad and has always been bad for a reason.
Understood, just want to be sure that those who showed interest would not be deterred. I consider this a project for the benefit of geekhack, not a project for me that could also help the community.
I think the dropping the cutout will definitely lose it's charm/uniqueness, but I still would prefer the engraving seeing as I wouldn't really use the lighting on the logo. Making the price have a better sweet spot is a plus too. :cool:
I'm all for seeing YOUR vision come to life. I'm rooting for you DrHubblePhD! :thumb:
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
Please this.
Design by comity is bad and has always been bad for a reason.
Understood, just want to be sure that those who showed interest would not be deterred. I consider this a project for the benefit of geekhack, not a project for me that could also help the community.
[/more]I think the dropping the cutout will definitely lose it's charm/uniqueness, but I still would prefer the engraving seeing as I wouldn't really use the lighting on the logo. Making the price have a better sweet spot is a plus too. :cool:
I'm all for seeing YOUR vision come to life. I'm rooting for you DrHubblePhD! :thumb:It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
Please this.
Design by comity is bad and has always been bad for a reason.
Understood, just want to be sure that those who showed interest would not be deterred. I consider this a project for the benefit of geekhack, not a project for me that could also help the community.
Okay here is the scoop. I appreciate your ideas, however the issue is that through cutting would probably ruin the font. I just recieved my quote for the engraved version. While I don't have a price for you yet, I will say that you will likely not like the price if we were to keep the insert and top through hole cut.
We will still include the rgb LED's on the PCB, and in the future, if there is enough interest, we could separately produce a second version of the top with the original cutout and insert.
the logo may not look right cut through hole seeing that rounded drill bits will not be able to get defined corners on the font.
Okay here is the scoop. I appreciate your ideas, however the issue is that through cutting would probably ruin the font. I just recieved my quote for the engraved version. While I don't have a price for you yet, I will say that you will likely not like the price if we were to keep the insert and top through hole cut.
We will still include the rgb LED's on the PCB, and in the future, if there is enough interest, we could separately produce a second version of the top with the original cutout and insert.
I can definitely understand the acrylic logo would mean additional difficulties.
However I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean by 'through cutting would probably ruin the font'.
I understand your original concern that,the logo may not look right cut through hole seeing that rounded drill bits will not be able to get defined corners on the font.
But I don't really see the issue with engraving into acrylic vs aluminum (since the result should be similar I guess) or even laser cutting the logo into a thin plate (since laser cutting should also be able to create defined corners unlike the drill bits and therefore fix the issue of the font being ruined afaik)...
It should also be significantly cheaper since you would only have to machine the font into the acrylic or metal rather then both, as well as the fact that laser cutting should be a cheaper machining option then doing it with cnc.
I very much understand the original design would be expensive and difficult to realize, but I think something along this lines would minimize the add-on cost for the logo quite a lot, and I personally wouldn't mind paying a bit more for the beauty of the OG design... =)
Using paint or epoxy you could easily create a two tone look like I have on my Corsa.
What about engraving and then infill with a glow in the dark epoxy? Then it will light up in the dark, sort of mimicking the original lighting but would still be cheaper since it is just engraving. It will not be able to have the lighting change color though and will be very dependent on ambient light, but so are the stars, so I would feel it fits the theme.
The acrylic insert seemed like a major feature. I'd be sad to see it go but it wouldn't dissuade me from buying. I'm interested to see your alternative ideas.
Also I find it funny that you keep typing "recourse". ;)
So another update, to save a signifigant cost we will not be doing cutouts that allow for opening switch tops while plate mounted. The same options in terms of short right shift, off centered caps lock etc. will still be availible. We are refining our price estimate now, just trying to get the cost down since manufacturing in 'Murica is more expensive than over seas manufacturing.
We will likely also be offering different plate materials.
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
It's YOUR design, as long as YOU are okay with it then I will be. Don't release it until it's perfection.
Damn ****ing right.
DrHubblePHD, have you considered doing an engraving then laser cutting an acrylic insert to fit into that engraving groove? Kind of like how the Kingsaver (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58776.0) has? That way you could have options and colors again without driving up the costs too much.
Also I don't think there's anything wrong with engraving.
Well the point of the acrylic insert was to have it lit up via an rgb strip. With your idea, if I am not mistaken, the acrylic insert couldn't be lit up therefore rendering it pointless.
This is also a matter of saving on costs and a design like that might get not get us the price we want to hit.
Well the point of the acrylic insert was to have it lit up via an rgb strip. With your idea, if I am not mistaken, the acrylic insert couldn't be lit up therefore rendering it pointless.
This is also a matter of saving on costs and a design like that might get not get us the price we want to hit.
Engrave it, punch two or three holes in the case top for a little LED strip to shine through, put the acrylic insert over it, boom lit. Drill press should be a less setup and cost than actually milling that all out.
It's certainly not going to get fixed with a pessimistic attitude ;)
Honestly, I really wanted the idea to work, but the problem with the design like many others is that it will end up looking noticeably underwhelming if not done really well.
It could either look amazing or really ugly.
Also, I won't reveal the quote that was given, but it is a bit on the high end already and now we really need to put good thought into what we put into this board.
Honestly, I really wanted the idea to work, but the problem with the design like many others is that it will end up looking noticeably underwhelming if not done really well.
It could either look amazing or really ugly.
Also, I won't reveal the quote that was given, but it is a bit on the high end already and now we really need to put good thought into what we put into this board.
You're pretty eager to nitpick at ideas but I don't see you coming up with any to solve the issue. Like I said, problems won't get solved with a pessimistic attitude. It won't be done really well if you shoot it down at first glance. It was simply a suggestion and I'm sure it could work with a little tweaking. But it is also a suggestion and I would be happy to see an engraving.
Honestly, I really wanted the idea to work, but the problem with the design like many others is that it will end up looking noticeably underwhelming if not done really well.
It could either look amazing or really ugly.
Also, I won't reveal the quote that was given, but it is a bit on the high end already and now we really need to put good thought into what we put into this board.
You're pretty eager to nitpick at ideas but I don't see you coming up with any to solve the issue. Like I said, problems won't get solved with a pessimistic attitude. It won't be done really well if you shoot it down at first glance. It was simply a suggestion and I'm sure it could work with a little tweaking. But it is also a suggestion and I would be happy to see an engraving.
What would the engraving look like? Would it be similar to an OTD 360c (http://i.imgur.com/ammbFPL.jpg)? Or could it be infilled somehow like fog's Cartesian Longboard (http://i.imgur.com/jHxahjL.jpg)?
I don't necessarily care if the logo is an acrylic insert, but I think it would be nice if it was two-tone somehow so it stands out.
Perhaps a silly question but would it be possible to have a test piece of just the cutout in something like black acrylic (to mimic the aluminum) + frosted acrylic (to serve as our insert)?
You would get a much better idea of the limitations of the machinery and give people something to discuss.
Perhaps it doesn't even look half bad. :)
And that should not be that expensive. Perhaps $50 or so? Hell, I'd even be willing to throw DrHubblePhD a couple of dollars to get it made and have him shoot some pictures of it.
Edit:
I just pulled out my book on materials and cutting and I can see how it might be very difficult to cut these areas to the desired exactness with round bits.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CGBeXON.jpg)
You could probably do it by lasercutting (provided it's less than 20mm thick) but the anodizing could make it difficult to design the inserts to make them fit...
Would the materials of our resident capmakers provide an option? As in fill it up with liquid?
EDIT2:
Can you show us what the underside of the insert currently looks like? It doesn't have to be as thick as the rest of the top plate does it? Would that make it easier for your machine guy?
:(Perhaps a silly question but would it be possible to have a test piece of just the cutout in something like black acrylic (to mimic the aluminum) + frosted acrylic (to serve as our insert)?
You would get a much better idea of the limitations of the machinery and give people something to discuss.
Perhaps it doesn't even look half bad. :)
And that should not be that expensive. Perhaps $50 or so? Hell, I'd even be willing to throw DrHubblePhD a couple of dollars to get it made and have him shoot some pictures of it.
Edit:
I just pulled out my book on materials and cutting and I can see how it might be very difficult to cut these areas to the desired exactness with round bits.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CGBeXON.jpg)
You could probably do it by lasercutting (provided it's less than 20mm thick) but the anodizing could make it difficult to design the inserts to make them fit...
Would the materials of our resident capmakers provide an option? As in fill it up with liquid?
EDIT2:
Can you show us what the underside of the insert currently looks like? It doesn't have to be as thick as the rest of the top plate does it? Would that make it easier for your machine guy?
I thought about all this too. Thinning that area so it doesn't have to be as deep, and you could even use EDM instead of milling or laser cutting. But it's still a whole separate setup/operation which adds a ton of cost. I thought about casting in-place with resin instead of an acrylic cutout. But resins are all polyester-based, not acrylic, which means they don't transmit light as well.
Unfortunately, I just don't think there's a good way to make this happen and still have this be an affordable board.
Here's whats up boys...
The cost of the Mira will likely be above a bit above $400 for the full package. This includes: the full alu case, a custom engraved SS weight, a SS plate, gold stabs, and the b.mira pcb with controller pre soldered. That said we are working on options that allow for a lower price and make it more accessible to more people.
Here is the important part. Why the cost is what it is. And most importantly why you should buy a Mira:
- The design is an obviously difficult one to mill since it utilizes curves on many surfaces, something that makes this board unique but costly.
- It will be completely produced in America, from design to manufacturing. You will be supporting a project that brings design and innovation back to our community instead of relying on other communities to do the dirty work. This of course is not cheep, and manufacturing costs will always be higher here than what can be found overseas.
- This board still has a great range of features, even without the insert that will make it a truly unique piece of hardware for your desk. It has a truly unique side profile, a custom engraved weight, a custom pcb with full back lighting support, and don't forget about those gold stabs that will ship as part of the package!
- We are still working hard to provide you as many options for anodization as possible, even a potential for a custom option where you can choose anything you would like!
Remember also that shipping from me to the rest of the US will be considerably cheaper than shipping for other kustoms. So factor that into what you plan on spending.
I hope with some of this information you will support this project when the GB starts. Since the Orion GB has started, I will allow adequate time for your wallets to recover as I acquire a prototype. I am looking into options for alternate plate materials such as polycarbonate that as an option for the buy could bring the mark below $400. In the meantime, continue to voice your support and with your help we can make this the first all out GeekHack custom!
Here's whats up boys...
The cost of the Mira will likely be above a bit above $400 for the full package. This includes: the full alu case, a custom engraved SS weight, a SS plate, gold stabs, and the b.mira pcb with controller pre soldered. That said we are working on options that allow for a lower price and make it more accessible to more people.
Here is the important part. Why the cost is what it is. And most importantly why you should buy a Mira:
- The design is an obviously difficult one to mill since it utilizes curves on many surfaces, something that makes this board unique but costly.
- It will be completely produced in America, from design to manufacturing. You will be supporting a project that brings design and innovation back to our community instead of relying on other communities to do the dirty work. This of course is not cheep, and manufacturing costs will always be higher here than what can be found overseas.
- This board still has a great range of features, even without the insert that will make it a truly unique piece of hardware for your desk. It has a truly unique side profile, a custom engraved weight, a custom pcb with full back lighting support, and don't forget about those gold stabs that will ship as part of the package!
- We are still working hard to provide you as many options for anodization as possible, even a potential for a custom option where you can choose anything you would like!
Remember also that shipping from me to the rest of the US will be considerably cheaper than shipping for other kustoms. So factor that into what you plan on spending.
I hope with some of this information you will support this project when the GB starts. Since the Orion GB has started, I will allow adequate time for your wallets to recover as I acquire a prototype. I am looking into options for alternate plate materials such as polycarbonate that as an option for the buy could bring the mark below $400. In the meantime, continue to voice your support and with your help we can make this the first all out GeekHack custom!
Will it be split right shift compatible?
Will it be split right shift compatible?
yup
North of $400? Really?
I thought we were shooting for a keyboard considerably cheaper than the Orion V2. That's not cheaper at all. This makes the decision much harder for me. Disappointing...
North of $400? Really?(http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2012/5/20/Herc_is_Disappointed.gif)
I thought we were shooting for a keyboard considerably cheaper than the Orion V2. That's not cheaper at all. This makes the decision much harder for me. Disappointing...
North of $400? Really?
I thought we were shooting for a keyboard considerably cheaper than the Orion V2. That's not cheaper at all. This makes the decision much harder for me. Disappointing...
North of $400? Really?
I thought we were shooting for a keyboard considerably cheaper than the Orion V2. That's not cheaper at all. This makes the decision much harder for me. Disappointing...
u must not love 'murica then...
Any possibility of a cheaper option with a simpler case? After this one is done I suppose :)
Any possibility of a cheaper option with a simpler case? After this one is done I suppose :)
Well as I said, if you opt for a polycarb plate the cost will likely be under $400. I dont plan to do another tkl for a while after this, however I have some other projects in the pipe that you might enjoy!
Any possibility of a cheaper option with a simpler case? After this one is done I suppose :)
Well as I said, if you opt for a polycarb plate the cost will likely be under $400. I dont plan to do another tkl for a while after this, however I have some other projects in the pipe that you might enjoy!
I look forward to seeing what else you have coming up, but I really just want a simple TKL keyboard that is solid and not $5000000000000000.. everyone makes 60% boards >_<
how about this, since it's impossible to cater to the majority and keep the prices low, we go all out! Cater to the few! Original design, brass weights at the bottom with some sort of NASA engraving on it, then a small cutout for a circular insert on the side (also brass) with the # engraving on it. The price will be expensive and only a few will have access to them, put limit at 57 orders. In a few years, this will be like the GeekHack version of the 356cl with market value of $3000.00 :p
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Cool. Do you have a prototype done? If so, let's see!
Cool. Do you have a prototype done? If so, let's see!
+1 Thought that had to be done before the orders started.
Perhaps what I should say is that you will get a chance to see the prototype before purchasing. :thumb:
Hope everyone is ready... we will be announcing a special offer on a very special day...
Hope everyone is ready... we will be announcing a special offer on a very special day...
Hope everyone is ready... we will be announcing a special offer on a very special day...
June 6, the 29th anniversary of the release of Disney's Space Camp; one of Disney's worst movies and an affront to space exploration. Will DrHubblePhD settle the score by producing one of the best custom TKLs with a space theme? *fingers crossed*
What program did you use to design the case?
Did someone say....MADE IN AMERICA?Thanks! I know how to use AutoCAD, and I also have a student license, so that is what I plan on sticking with for 2d drawings, but I know SolidWorks has 3d modeling, hopefully neither don't take too long to get good at.What program did you use to design the case?
If you're thinking about getting into CAD, I *highly* suggest going with Pro Engineer or SolidWorks.
What program did you use to design the case?
Ok, thanks. I have student licenses for a couple different CAD programs, so I should be able to find one that I like.What program did you use to design the case?
Designed in Inventor but it's a silly program. I would recommend following CPT's advice and getting started in solidworks.
If you don't mind me asking, what thickness did you make your plate and top case? I know for plate its around 1.5mm, but no clue where to go for top case thickness.What program did you use to design the case?
Designed in Inventor but it's a silly program. I would recommend following CPT's advice and getting started in solidworks.
If you don't mind me asking, what thickness did you make your plate and top case? I know for plate its around 1.5mm, but no clue where to go for top case thickness.What program did you use to design the case?
Designed in Inventor but it's a silly program. I would recommend following CPT's advice and getting started in solidworks.
Thanks!If you don't mind me asking, what thickness did you make your plate and top case? I know for plate its around 1.5mm, but no clue where to go for top case thickness.What program did you use to design the case?
Designed in Inventor but it's a silly program. I would recommend following CPT's advice and getting started in solidworks.
The plate is 1.5mm. The top of the case has two different thicknesses so I can't give you a number. I am away from my computer right now, but I can give you more details later.
Looks like I won't have funds in time for this but I hope people pick up some blue and #GOLD
BTW guys, new quotes from an alternate CNC source look promising for sub $400. Stay tuned, we may have to move the date for the big announcement ;)
BTW guys, new quotes from an alternate CNC source look promising for sub $400. Stay tuned, we may have to move the date for the big announcement ;)
that acrylic cutout is a really cool idea(depending on how much the extra machining drives up cost ) is that currently on the chopping block depending on price? Not to mention the brass insert . I really hope these make the cut because it was a pretty cool and unique design :thumb:BTW guys, new quotes from an alternate CNC source look promising for sub $400. Stay tuned, we may have to move the date for the big announcement ;)
Good news!!! Is with the original design? or changed up without the cutout for the acrylic logo
What was the date of the information release again?
What was the date of the information release again?
Tomorrow! Hooray!!
Sorry guys, no announcement today :'( I have gotten alternate CNC quotes that may lower the price but it will take some time. Hang in there! Info soon I promise!
Sorry guys, no announcement today :'( I have gotten alternate CNC quotes that may lower the price but it will take some time. Hang in there! Info soon I promise!
Sorry guys, no announcement today :'( I have gotten alternate CNC quotes that may lower the price but it will take some time. Hang in there! Info soon I promise!
Sorry guys, no announcement today :'( I have gotten alternate CNC quotes that may lower the price but it will take some time. Hang in there! Info soon I promise!
It's great that you have been able to get different price quotes that will hopefully minimize the cost of this project. I'm a little worried that as we get cheaper quotes, though, the quality of the the finished project will decrease. I'm sure you will make the best decision for this project, but I hope that the cost of the keyboard isn't favored over its quality. Thanks for keeping us updated! :thumb:
Sorry everyone for being so inactive as of late. Rest assured that Mira will be coming to you in time! I should have some more quotes by next week, so stay tuned!
This is really exciting really hope I have the budget to join.
everyday i hope for this to turn from ic to gbSoon enough
everyday i hope for this to turn from ic to gbSoon enough
You must learn the way of the geekhacker and wait. Talking about finish dates is useless around here. ;Deveryday i hope for this to turn from ic to gbSoon enough
sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm pretty new to custom keyboards.
After the group buy starts and everyone is paid up, will it take weeks or months for the case to be milled and pcb's made? Basically what I'm asking is how long you predict it will take to ship out people's orders after invoicing ends.
everyday i hope for this to turn from ic to gbSoon enough
everyday i hope for this to turn from ic to gb
everyday i hope for this to turn from ic to gbSoon enough
Before the actual GB starts do you think you can have a definitive list of all the the finalized colors? Either way I'm looking forward to this.Yeah I am trying to nail down what colors we can offer or if we could possibly offer custom options. Everything will be explicitly clear before the buy starts, don't worry :thumb:
Just realised the other day picking winkeyless pcb that they are doing ISO too.To simplify the plate design, yes. Sorry to disappoint :rolleyes:
This GB is still ANSI only ?
Out of curiosity, if you release the design of the plate, couldn't someone modify and cut out an ansi plate (while keeping the same outline and mounting holes), AND it still should fit within the top cover?Just realised the other day picking winkeyless pcb that they are doing ISO too.To simplify the plate design, yes. Sorry to disappoint :rolleyes:
This GB is still ANSI only ?
Out of curiosity, if you release the design of the plate, couldn't someone modify and cut out an ansi plate (while keeping the same outline and mounting holes), AND it still should fit within the top cover?Just realised the other day picking winkeyless pcb that they are doing ISO too.To simplify the plate design, yes. Sorry to disappoint :rolleyes:
This GB is still ANSI only ?
Gotta make at least one #gold render too. :PMy Father in Heaven, that gold case looks absolutely amazing.
4k, 100+ passes as well.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h8ZZGmq.jpg)
Another 4k Render @ 100 passesDem renders...Show Image(http://puu.sh/gTJH2/eb6a88d763.jpg)
That would be zealpc.net correct?Hey Doc, how will this GB run? Do you have your own website to handle orders & checkouts or will you be using a 3rd party?
Checkout will most likely go through my site (in order to secure # positions). I'll be setting up the options once we get quotes in. The number you get will not be disclosed until it arrives at your doorstep.
Facts about the potential group buy:
The Mira will be a limited run of 100 boards (hopefully with the unique number engraved). The first 57 boards that are reserved (after the number of years NASA has been operating) will come with gold stabs from ZealPC! The remaining orders will receive the same items but standard stabilizers. More from ZealPC as he unveils his secret item (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69590.0) expect this awesome item to be a part of the buy as well. The number of the board will be assigned in the order they are reserved, as a result, some sort of down payment will likely be required upon ordering. Ordering will start as soon as the Group Buy is posted at a preset date and time.
Wow, that NASA blue looks really nice. So classy. I have to say, an all-American custom is kind of a nice thing to see, what with the prestigious Korean customs seeming to dominate all over! Not to say that they aren't worthy, but it's nice to see more breadth in the spectrum. :3
Also, are spots for certain numbers actually able to be reserved? I'd imagine them being strictly sequential for serializing, but I'm curious.
EDIT: I just realized. If I buy this, it's pretty much essential that I'll have to find a symbiosis set from someone! Which set would fit better both thematically and visually? Ahh fffff!
Maybe July 14th will be the day...
I want to make sure that the choosen shop can be responsible with the orders and deliver a product that is to my expectations as well as the expectations of you guys!
Maybe July 14th will be the day...
I appreciate the reference :))
UPDATE TIME!
I am working closely with a couple other users to find a reliable CNC company to handle machining for Mira.
Trust me when I say that I am just as anxious as you to get this buy off the ground! That said, I want to make sure that the choosen shop can be responsible with the orders and deliver a product that is to my expectations as well as the expectations of you guys! I also want to make sure that the Mira has an accessible price so that everyone with interest can buy one!
Sorry for the delays
P.S. THE HYPE TRAIN WILL NEVER STOP :p
Maybe July 14th will be the day...
I appreciate the reference :))
UPDATE TIME!
I am working closely with a couple other users to find a reliable CNC company to handle machining for Mira.
Trust me when I say that I am just as anxious as you to get this buy off the ground! That said, I want to make sure that the choosen shop can be responsible with the orders and deliver a product that is to my expectations as well as the expectations of you guys! I also want to make sure that the Mira has an accessible price so that everyone with interest can buy one!
Sorry for the delays
P.S. THE HYPE TRAIN WILL NEVER STOP :p
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I happen to know the owner of this full service machine shop. If you don't mind working with a shop in Florida I can get you some quotes and inquire about their ability to do finish work. I can't promise any discounts but I know he would give me a fair price for the work. Let me know.
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Right :)) It's $40 towards your purchase, meaning your just putting money down. We expect the total cost of the board to be in the $350-$400 which is to be expected of a custom made in America. The pre order is non refundable, but you have no obligation to purchase the board if the full price is prohibitively expensive.
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Right :)) It's $40 towards your purchase, meaning your just putting money down. We expect the total cost of the board to be in the $350-$400 which is to be expected of a custom made in America. The pre order is non refundable, but you have no obligation to purchase the board if the full price is prohibitively expensive.
Hubble - Are there any precautions against people who wish to order more than 1? Ideally I'd like to pick up one for my brother and sister. Since you posted an estimated end price(which I think is a good price) do you have an idea on assembly pricing?
Is that $400 with the switches and assembly?
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Right :)) It's $40 towards your purchase, meaning your just putting money down. We expect the total cost of the board to be in the $350-$400 which is to be expected of a custom made in America. The pre order is non refundable, but you have no obligation to purchase the board if the full price is prohibitively expensive.
Hubble - Are there any precautions against people who wish to order more than 1? Ideally I'd like to pick up one for my brother and sister. Since you posted an estimated end price(which I think is a good price) do you have an idea on assembly pricing?
To keep it fair, I think I should prohibit it to 1 pre order within the first 57 units. I will include a spot for you to declare how many units you intend on buying however you can only give number preference within the first 57 for one of them. Ill think this over and get back with an update in the future.
The assembly costs arent finalized since I will likely be splitting the work with theChemist. That said, expect it to be no more than $50 for full assembly (excluding the cost of parts).
Only $40?$40 to put your name on the list, not to buy the board (if I understood it right).
Can't wait hubble!
The race is on boys
Right :)) It's $40 towards your purchase, meaning your just putting money down. We expect the total cost of the board to be in the $350-$400 which is to be expected of a custom made in America. The pre order is non refundable, but you have no obligation to purchase the board if the full price is prohibitively expensive.
Hubble - Are there any precautions against people who wish to order more than 1? Ideally I'd like to pick up one for my brother and sister. Since you posted an estimated end price(which I think is a good price) do you have an idea on assembly pricing?
Do we know what colors will be available for the Mira for sure yet? I'm very interested in pre-ordering, but I'm wondering if the blue color variation will be available or not.
Do we know what colors will be available for the Mira for sure yet? I'm very interested in pre-ordering, but I'm wondering if the blue color variation will be available or not.
Do we know what colors will be available for the Mira for sure yet? I'm very interested in pre-ordering, but I'm wondering if the blue color variation will be available or not.
Colors are actually a very important question. If the right colors aren't offered it might not be worth it to join.
Question about the PCB -- are diodes and resistors through hole or surface mount?I believe the diodes can be either however the resistors are surface mounted for sure.
Are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before we commit?
Are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before we commit?
Before you commit to the full purchase, absolutely! The pre order is to help pay for the prototype so that everyone is confident they know what they're paying for!
Are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before we commit?
Before you commit to the full purchase, absolutely! The pre order is to help pay for the prototype so that everyone is confident they know what they're paying for!
I hope it is a nice prototype then because that's a lot of money just for a prototype. I'm sure it would be easy enough to transfer the $40 non refundable deposit to someone else though just in case.
Are we going to be able to see an actual prototype before we commit?
Before you commit to the full purchase, absolutely! The pre order is to help pay for the prototype so that everyone is confident they know what they're paying for!
I hope it is a nice prototype then because that's a lot of money just for a prototype. I'm sure it would be easy enough to transfer the $40 non refundable deposit to someone else though just in case.
Yeah you would be surprised how much a prototype costs with American manufacturers. I also need to pay for a PCB prototype. The pre order deposit can be transferable though as you said!
After the $40 pre order, how long should it be before I have to pay the rest? I'm broke and I need some time to scrape up the money. :))
Do you have any details on the PCB? Will it support key leds? Will it use ps2avr, Or is it going to be an arm core teensy controller? Is the USB virtual or dedicated controller (I find the virtual to be far less reliable)?
Going to murder my budget for the foreseeable future, but I'm in 100%. Fingers crossed that I'll be able to reserve #18!this made me smile! User 18 for #18 summer of '15 :p
wish I could afford...Ask demik, I heard he's in the market for a sifo.
The shop quoted 6-8 weeks for he prototype. In the meantime I will work out the rest of he details so we can start the group buy soon after that barring any unexpected problems
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.Didn't exactly mean top, more so live up. And make me not feel sad that I spent $400 on a board I might not use.
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.depends on how you do them IMO. The ergoclears I have done a good job at lubing I have liked more than my topre
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.depends on how you do them IMO. The ergoclears I have done a good job at lubing I have liked more than my topre
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.depends on how you do them IMO. The ergoclears I have done a good job at lubing I have liked more than my topre
Yeah I prefer ergo clear over topre any day :p
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.depends on how you do them IMO. The ergoclears I have done a good job at lubing I have liked more than my topre
Yeah I prefer ergo clear over topre any day :p
what springs are usually used for ergo clears? 62g?
Ergo clears don't top topres, not even close.depends on how you do them IMO. The ergoclears I have done a good job at lubing I have liked more than my topre
Yeah I prefer ergo clear over topre any day :p
what springs are usually used for ergo clears? 62g?
Ergo clear actually refers to springs from mx Browns specifically however 62g is the most popular substitute.
ooh i see. Also a question on the assembly service that will be provided for limited boards. Would we need to provide the materials (switches, leds, etc) or will they be included given that you pay for the cost of them?If hubble / thechemist don't want to do switch tuning, I would be more than happy to help out, but I don't have many supplies anymore, but I could always get more.
ooh i see. Also a question on the assembly service that will be provided for limited boards. Would we need to provide the materials (switches, leds, etc) or will they be included given that you pay for the cost of them?If hubble / thechemist don't want to do switch tuning, I would be more than happy to help out, but I don't have many supplies anymore, but I could always get more.
ooh i see. Also a question on the assembly service that will be provided for limited boards. Would we need to provide the materials (switches, leds, etc) or will they be included given that you pay for the cost of them?If hubble / thechemist don't want to do switch tuning, I would be more than happy to help out, but I don't have many supplies anymore, but I could always get more.
This hasn't really been decided yet, however most likely we will be able to provide diodes, resistors, and stock switches. Anything else would most likely need to be sent to us. As I said though, this hasn't been decided yet.
Super excited to put a down payment on this, gonna be my first custom board "and hopefully my last!"I got a HHKB as a first keyboard, and now I'm getting a Mira as my first MX keyboard. I've gone backwards in the journey of keyboards. :))
That's a slippery slope my friend :)) the Mira does look pretty freaking nice though !
Super excited to put a down payment on this, gonna be my first custom board "and hopefully my last!"I got a HHKB as a first keyboard, and now I'm getting a Mira as my first MX keyboard. I've gone backwards in the journey of keyboards. :))
That's a slippery slope my friend :)) the Mira does look pretty freaking nice though !
Super excited to put a down payment on this, gonna be my first custom board "and hopefully my last!"I got a HHKB as a first keyboard, and now I'm getting a Mira as my first MX keyboard. I've gone backwards in the journey of keyboards. :))
That's a slippery slope my friend :)) the Mira does look pretty freaking nice though !
No bro, you are going forward :)
So excited with this ic progress
Since you're taking pre-orders next week does this mean you'll also have a physical prototype to show us? :-X
Since you're taking pre-orders next week does this mean you'll also have a physical prototype to show us? :-X
The preorder money is to fund the prototype since it's expensive as ****.
Think of it like Kickstarter except he isn't greasy and won't take the full 400 up front.
But from previous posts he will have a prototype before the full thing starts.
To winkey or not to winkey, that's the question..
Will the plate allow for switch modding?
One of the renders appears to have the switch moddable plate while another does not.
Could you clarify?
( I apologize if this has already been answered in one of the previous posts)
Thanks,
-Blacke
To winkey or not to winkey, that's the question..
WKL is the answer.
Will the plate allow for switch modding?
One of the renders appears to have the switch moddable plate while another does not.
Could you clarify?
( I apologize if this has already been answered in one of the previous posts)
Thanks,
-Blacke
Yes there will be cutouts that allow for switch modding.To winkey or not to winkey, that's the question..
WKL is the answer.
The prototype will be winkeyless. It seems that the overwhelming majority want winkeyless, so the only option may be winkeyless in he end to reduce the cost.
Will the plate allow for switch modding?
One of the renders appears to have the switch moddable plate while another does not.
Could you clarify?
( I apologize if this has already been answered in one of the previous posts)
Thanks,
-Blacke
Yes there will be cutouts that allow for switch modding.To winkey or not to winkey, that's the question..
WKL is the answer.
The prototype will be winkeyless. It seems that the overwhelming majority want winkeyless, so the only option may be winkeyless in he end to reduce the cost.
could winkey be an option at extra cost? i know there are some (including me) who would prefer the winkey
I am also planning on joining the pre-order and I would much prefer winkey.Mostly aesthetics, I would guess. I don't believe there is a functional advantage to it, to be honest.
On a side note, can someone explain to me why many people prefer winkeyless? What are the advantages?
Good job on the project :) good luck having everything done.
Winkey 4 lyfe
Would prefer a winkey and 1.25u bottom row, but a winkey 1.5u bottom row would be acceptable. No winkey (and no fn key on the right) would be a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.No need to worry, I talked to the CNC shop, we can offer both, however their may be a slight premium for one or the other depending on how many of each are ordered :thumb: The PCB and plate should support both bottom row configurations as well
Do we have to put in a pre-order if we don't want a numbered one? I do understand there is only going to be up to 100, but if the pre-order doesn't reach 100 can we still get one when production occurs?
Was wondering, do you guys accept Canadian Tender? Like how would this work out for someone living in Canada?
Would prefer a winkey and 1.25u bottom row, but a winkey 1.5u bottom row would be acceptable. No winkey (and no fn key on the right) would be a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.No need to worry, I talked to the CNC shop, we can offer both, however their may be a slight premium for one or the other depending on how many of each are ordered :thumb: The PCB and plate should support both bottom row configurations as well
Was wondering, do you guys accept Canadian Tender? Like how would this work out for someone living in Canada?
Paypal or whatever payment service ends up getting used will convert for you.Would prefer a winkey and 1.25u bottom row, but a winkey 1.5u bottom row would be acceptable. No winkey (and no fn key on the right) would be a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.No need to worry, I talked to the CNC shop, we can offer both, however their may be a slight premium for one or the other depending on how many of each are ordered :thumb: The PCB and plate should support both bottom row configurations as well
When you say both configurations are supported, are you talking about 125 vs 150, or winkey vs winkeyless?
A question,
Does this mean any of the rendered color will be available?
Or it will be limited to a few option? cos I really love the hot pink only
Will it be possible to get just only the case? I already own a wkl b.87 board and it's pretty bnew. Or if not, would the buyers be able to add additional case on their order? It would be nice if somebody can help me out to get the case and I'll just pay them.
Guys, this would be my first custom keyboard. Convince me to buy it.
While I prefer more minimal keyboards, the logo isn't as flashy. The price tag is steep for someone who's never bought an MX board, let alone custom, but the hype for this is huge.
Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Where? I don't mean to put anyone down, especially Hubble, but OTD boards are the highest quality, and highest sought after keyboards. This definitely won't be more than 1k resale, but they will probably be around Duck board resale prices.
And the same way I feel about clothes, wear it / use it. I know I am going to try and get the Supreme x Nike tomorrow, and if I do, sure as hell I will be wearing themEveryone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Buying this as an investment is stupid. Get it cause you want it. Don't get it to sell it. This isn't a Supreme lineup.
Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Buying this as an investment is stupid. Get it cause you want it. Don't get it to sell it. This isn't a Supreme lineup.
Well said CPT. People are treating this hobby like it's an investment. We collect and use keyboards because we like them not because we are some greasy scalper trying to make a buck.Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Buying this as an investment is stupid. Get it cause you want it. Don't get it to sell it. This isn't a Supreme lineup.
Well said CPT. People are treating this hobby like it's an investment. We collect and use keyboards because we like them not because we are some greasy scalper trying to make a buck.Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Buying this as an investment is stupid. Get it cause you want it. Don't get it to sell it. This isn't a Supreme lineup.
I certainly hope I didn't come off that way. :-X I've been torn on buying this board for a while, but not for the sake of investment alone (it'd just ease my mind a bit if I had to sell it in the future), simply because it'd be bad for my wallet, and I'm not the biggest fan of TKL layouts despite being a big fan of the Mira's design. It's easy to become enamored in this hobby without having the funds to support every desire.
Because I like this keyboard is precisely why I'm so on the fence about it. It'd lack much pragmatism for me because I'd likely not use it often. For some, it's more about collecting than use though. I was also admittedly curious about the speculation on resale value since it's been mentioned a few times in this thread, even by Dr.Hubble himself.
In the end, anyone can justify what they buy for whatever reasons they want. Investment, collection, practicality. It's all fair game, even if some look down on one aspect or another. If someone has the money and the will, then it's there prerogative, I suppose. :PWell said CPT. People are treating this hobby like it's an investment. We collect and use keyboards because we like them not because we are some greasy scalper trying to make a buck.Everyone is speculating that this keyboard will have mega resale value, so I guess it's time to ask the question: What do you all predict this keyboard's value will be after production ends? Do you think it's going to be a 1k+ gem like OTD boards? Might be a touchy subject to talk about, but its resale value has been hyped quite a bit!Pretty sure I'm going to empty my 401k and invest it in sneakers and keyboards :cool:
Buying this as an investment is stupid. Get it cause you want it. Don't get it to sell it. This isn't a Supreme lineup.
I think you're thinking a little too hard into this. There's nothing that's pragmatic about buying a $400 dollar keyboard, but if it makes you happy, then do it. If it doesn't, then don't do it. Weighing pros and cons won't get you very far in non-sensical hobbies like keyboards :p
What does OTD even stand for? I'm too much of a pleb to know I guess.
I understand it's used when talking about boards such as the corsa...
Anyways, I'm off to go panhandleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/85LzCCR.jpg?1)
What does OTD even stand for? I'm too much of a pleb to know I guess.
I understand it's used when talking about boards such as the corsa...
Anyways, I'm off to go panhandleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/85LzCCR.jpg?1)
What does OTD even stand for? I'm too much of a pleb to know I guess.
I understand it's used when talking about boards such as the corsa...
Anyways, I'm off to go panhandleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/85LzCCR.jpg?1)
It doesn't sound like you should get it. Will you be more satisfied with having it than staring at pictures of it? A lot of collectors think this way.
I'm more into the hobby of video games and used to be into toys. I can't understand those who collect games just to keep them on the shelf. Sure, I like to keep my games on display and in nice condition, but I also play them. I buy the games I like and am going to play.
As for toys, I ditched that hobby because I finally realized, after years and thousands of dollars, that I found more pleasure in staring at pictures on the Internet and clicking the order button than actually owning the figures.
As for this keyboard, I'm going to jump on the pre-order simply to try and lock in my preferred number. If it turns out I don't like the board, then that's fine for me. I won't commit the rest of the money.
But as of right now I plan on buying it to use the heck out of, and the custom number only adds to my individuality.
Any word on a numpad? There is a render of it but nothing about it ?
Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Are they going to use the same micro controller as their other board have? It would be nice to have an upgraded controller and new version of application that could handle more modes of RGB leds for both on-board and switches' led. The current one can only do few modes for on-board led and also for the switches' led. I have suggested this before to Winkeyless and he said that they'll try to make those possible later on. I think it'd be great to have it first on this since these boards are special and very limited.
Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Are they going to use the same micro controller as their other board have? It would be nice to have an upgraded controller and new version of application that could handle more modes of RGB leds for both on-board and switches' led. The current one can only do few modes for on-board led and also for the switches' led. I have suggested this before to Winkeyless and he said that they'll try to make those possible later on. I think it'd be great to have it first on this since these boards are special and very limited.
The b.mira PCB will have his standard controller, that said, there is no reason why we couldnt do another run of PCBs when he chooses to update his hardware and firmware.Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Yeah the insert had to be dropped, not only was it almost impossible to properly machine, but it would have costed a lot more than you guys would be willing to spend. Trust me.
HOPE EVERYONE IS EXCITED AS I AM :p
Are they going to use the same micro controller as their other board have? It would be nice to have an upgraded controller and new version of application that could handle more modes of RGB leds for both on-board and switches' led. The current one can only do few modes for on-board led and also for the switches' led. I have suggested this before to Winkeyless and he said that they'll try to make those possible later on. I think it'd be great to have it first on this since these boards are special and very limited.
The b.mira PCB will have his standard controller, that said, there is no reason why we couldnt do another run of PCBs when he chooses to update his hardware and firmware.Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Yeah the insert had to be dropped, not only was it almost impossible to properly machine, but it would have costed a lot more than you guys would be willing to spend. Trust me.
HOPE EVERYONE IS EXCITED AS I AM :p
I don't think the 57 orders will be placed that fast, will they? I would guess you should have some time..Are they going to use the same micro controller as their other board have? It would be nice to have an upgraded controller and new version of application that could handle more modes of RGB leds for both on-board and switches' led. The current one can only do few modes for on-board led and also for the switches' led. I have suggested this before to Winkeyless and he said that they'll try to make those possible later on. I think it'd be great to have it first on this since these boards are special and very limited.
The b.mira PCB will have his standard controller, that said, there is no reason why we couldnt do another run of PCBs when he chooses to update his hardware and firmware.Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Yeah the insert had to be dropped, not only was it almost impossible to properly machine, but it would have costed a lot more than you guys would be willing to spend. Trust me.
HOPE EVERYONE IS EXCITED AS I AM :p
so freaking excited. Tuesday 6PM PST can't come fast enough. I'm pretty scared I will send my form in too early and not get counted!
I don't think the 57 orders will be placed that fast, will they? I would guess you should have some time..Are they going to use the same micro controller as their other board have? It would be nice to have an upgraded controller and new version of application that could handle more modes of RGB leds for both on-board and switches' led. The current one can only do few modes for on-board led and also for the switches' led. I have suggested this before to Winkeyless and he said that they'll try to make those possible later on. I think it'd be great to have it first on this since these boards are special and very limited.
The b.mira PCB will have his standard controller, that said, there is no reason why we couldnt do another run of PCBs when he chooses to update his hardware and firmware.Someone asked this before, and I'm not sure if the question was answered, but has the acrylic insert been officially dropped in favor of an engraved logo? I'm fine with either design choice, but I would like to get a better idea of what the finished product will look like before spending $40 on a pre-order. Also, do you think that it would be possible for you to state which CNC company has been chosen to produce this? It's not hugely important, but it might allow people to see samples of their previous work on their website before committing to this.
Yeah the insert had to be dropped, not only was it almost impossible to properly machine, but it would have costed a lot more than you guys would be willing to spend. Trust me.
HOPE EVERYONE IS EXCITED AS I AM :p
so freaking excited. Tuesday 6PM PST can't come fast enough. I'm pretty scared I will send my form in too early and not get counted!
gotta get my number!
gotta get my number!
I really want 69 :'(
gotta get my number!
I really want 69 :'(
Don't we all
9pm est......
****ty choice of time imo it will be 3am here. This system to get a special mira makes me a little icky. Makes me feel like i dont want to get a mira unless i get a number on it :p
9pm est......
****ty choice of time imo it will be 3am here. This system to get a special mira makes me a little icky. Makes me feel like i dont want to get a mira unless i get a number on it :p
gotta get my number!
I really want 69 :'(
All right, this may have been answered, but just in case it hasn't (or I missed it), I'm going to ask:
I plan on putting a non-refundable $40 deposit. However, seeing as I want to secure a certain number, will I have to submit the payment with the order form? Or will we be sent an invoice after our submission?
Reason I ask is that at around 8pm CST tomorrow I won't be around a computer, but will have my phone. It's kind of important I beat everyone to my number (though it's not a 100% deal-breaker), and fidgeting with a Google order form and then submitting payment via PayPal can taken a little longer than if I were at a computer.
Oh, and just to beat a dead horse and be clear: We can choose any number 1-100, but only the first 57 submissions (not numbers) will get the bonuses, yes?
Thanks!
All right, this may have been answered, but just in case it hasn't (or I missed it), I'm going to ask:
I plan on putting a non-refundable $40 deposit. However, seeing as I want to secure a certain number, will I have to submit the payment with the order form? Or will we be sent an invoice after our submission?
Reason I ask is that at around 8pm CST tomorrow I won't be around a computer, but will have my phone. It's kind of important I beat everyone to my number (though it's not a 100% deal-breaker), and fidgeting with a Google order form and then submitting payment via PayPal can taken a little longer than if I were at a computer.
Oh, and just to beat a dead horse and be clear: We can choose any number 1-100, but only the first 57 submissions (not numbers) will get the bonuses, yes?
Thanks!
i think you can only choose 1-57 for preorders
All right, this may have been answered, but just in case it hasn't (or I missed it), I'm going to ask:
I plan on putting a non-refundable $40 deposit. However, seeing as I want to secure a certain number, will I have to submit the payment with the order form? Or will we be sent an invoice after our submission?
Reason I ask is that at around 8pm CST tomorrow I won't be around a computer, but will have my phone. It's kind of important I beat everyone to my number (though it's not a 100% deal-breaker), and fidgeting with a Google order form and then submitting payment via PayPal can taken a little longer than if I were at a computer.
Oh, and just to beat a dead horse and be clear: We can choose any number 1-100, but only the first 57 submissions (not numbers) will get the bonuses, yes?
Thanks!
i think you can only choose 1-57 for preorders
That makes sense. Either way, my number falls within that range. Just wanted to make sure.
Are you allowing for multiple (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) choices of number on the form? If I don't get my first choice for whatever reason it would be nice if I could maybe get my 2nd or 3rd choice.Yup the form already has spots for first second and third choices.
Just a thought.
Before I invest I want to know the final price, sorry. besides i want #62 =)Whatever suits you! The point was just to have a low cost way for people to support the project and gain some cool benifits along the way! You should know though that you will not get to choose your preference for number for units 58 through 100 since they will just be assigned in order of purchase. That was one of the major benifits of the pre order.
Are you allowing for multiple (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) choices of number on the form? If I don't get my first choice for whatever reason it would be nice if I could maybe get my 2nd or 3rd choice.Yup the form already has spots for first second and third choices.
Just a thought.Before I invest I want to know the final price, sorry. besides i want #62 =)Whatever suits you! The point was just to have a low cost way for people to support the project and gain some cool benifits along the way! You should know though that you will not get to choose your preference for number for units 58 through 100 since they will just be assigned in order of purchase. That was one of the major benifits of the pre order.
Are you allowing for multiple (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) choices of number on the form? If I don't get my first choice for whatever reason it would be nice if I could maybe get my 2nd or 3rd choice.Yup the form already has spots for first second and third choices.
Just a thought.Before I invest I want to know the final price, sorry. besides i want #62 =)Whatever suits you! The point was just to have a low cost way for people to support the project and gain some cool benifits along the way! You should know though that you will not get to choose your preference for number for units 58 through 100 since they will just be assigned in order of purchase. That was one of the major benifits of the pre order.
did you have any more information on spirits secret switch? I don't know whether I should have sethk tune some clears for me or just wait for spirit's switch and tune those.
Zeal has switches in development that should be a great addition to the Mira. That said I can't give any more info than is publicly available. There is plenty of time though till you recieve your Mira so no need to rush!Are you allowing for multiple (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) choices of number on the form? If I don't get my first choice for whatever reason it would be nice if I could maybe get my 2nd or 3rd choice.Yup the form already has spots for first second and third choices.
Just a thought.Before I invest I want to know the final price, sorry. besides i want #62 =)Whatever suits you! The point was just to have a low cost way for people to support the project and gain some cool benifits along the way! You should know though that you will not get to choose your preference for number for units 58 through 100 since they will just be assigned in order of purchase. That was one of the major benifits of the pre order.
did you have any more information on spirits secret switch? I don't know whether I should have sethk tune some clears for me or just wait for spirit's switch and tune those.
Excuse my ignorance here, but will the firmware for this allow for winkey disabling?
I'm trying to decide between winkey vs winkeyless :confused:
Perfect, thank you very much! winkeyless it is! :)Excuse my ignorance here, but will the firmware for this allow for winkey disabling?
I'm trying to decide between winkey vs winkeyless :confused:
Winkeyless means it's not possible to install a switch in that position so no need for software. Of course you could get the winkey version and in software and disable it. The real reason for winkeyless is asthetic.
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :D
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :D
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
Hoff said it all.
Not gonna lie: after viewing a few other TKL prototypes these past few days I've been leaning on the fence since there are only renders for this one. That, and the non-refundable $40 would put me over-budget (hey, $40 still counts for me!).
Still haven't decided, so I may shoot over the order form tonight anyway!
Im here and lingering. That's right, I will be refreshing my PC from now until 9PM
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :DI got to agree with Hoff. I can't justify any level of support considering there are almost no details besides renders and intent. It is asking quite a bit for 57 people to just blindly give $40 without any details on to how much they may be committing to in the end.
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :DI got to agree with Hoff. I can't justify any level of support considering there are almost no details besides renders and intent. It is asking quite a bit for 57 people to just blindly give $40 without any details on to how much they may be committing to in the end.
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :DI got to agree with Hoff. I can't justify any level of support considering there are almost no details besides renders and intent. It is asking quite a bit for 57 people to just blindly give $40 without any details on to how much they may be committing to in the end.
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
I finally caught up on the last 3 months of this IC from when I went MIA. :-[ Whew! :DI got to agree with Hoff. I can't justify any level of support considering there are almost no details besides renders and intent. It is asking quite a bit for 57 people to just blindly give $40 without any details on to how much they may be committing to in the end.
Anyway, I'm still very interested, but unfortunately cannot justify pre-ordering before knowing the final price, color options, or what the prototype looks like. :-/ Best of luck with the pre-orders, Hubble. :thumb: This should shape up to be a really nice board.
I am not sure people have read the interest check properly if you believe there has been no details and estimates on price.
There is no commitment in a pre order from what i understand to buy later. It reserves you a specific number and spot int he GB, and as Hubble has already said these pre orders can be transferred if you feel the end result from prototyping and colors provided are not going to be what you want,
I for one have no hesitations putting down a pre order to help this IC get off the ground and into GB stage.
For my curiosity, how much approximately will the prototype cost in full to produce?
For my curiosity, how much approximately will the prototype cost in full to produce?
If what hubble told me is true I can understand why he's doing it the way he is. I'll leave it to him to answer the exact question for you. He didn't seem to be too secretive so I'll say it's between 1k and 5k.
The time has come.And so have I.
The form indicates that I can't sell my preorder for profit. I never intend to, but I was wondering if it's okay to sell it for the base $40 if I choose not to go with the final product. Thanks.
The form indicates that I can't sell my preorder for profit. I never intend to, but I was wondering if it's okay to sell it for the base $40 if I choose not to go with the final product. Thanks.
Stop moving the colors around!The form indicates that I can't sell my preorder for profit. I never intend to, but I was wondering if it's okay to sell it for the base $40 if I choose not to go with the final product. Thanks.
Yes you can sell it for the $40 base price :thumb:
"you may only choose three..." DAMMIT!!
"you may only choose three..." DAMMIT!!Hahaha that totally got me too... hopefully other people tripped up on that as well :p
Just got my confirmation email :D
order placed! I missed 9 by 1 second :(How do you know what number you got?
waiting by PP for launch :thumb:
For my curiosity, how much approximately will the prototype cost in full to produce?
If what hubble told me is true I can understand why he's doing it the way he is. I'll leave it to him to answer the exact question for you. He didn't seem to be too secretive so I'll say it's between 1k and 5k.
For my curiosity, how much approximately will the prototype cost in full to produce?
If what hubble told me is true I can understand why he's doing it the way he is. I'll leave it to him to answer the exact question for you. He didn't seem to be too secretive so I'll say it's between 1k and 5k.
A bit late but I'll float this out there. DrHubblePHD has a quote in hand for the prototype. However, that quote shouldn't be looked at as JUST the cost of the keyboard. The shop is going to take the time to setup the tooling, get someone dialed in to make this run, and get materials for him. Tooling, manpower, and materials are all factors in this as well. In fact, I'd probably say that the shop is probably billing most of that cost to the tooling for the prototype.
Best of luck in your fundraising efforts and I look forward to more Made in America/Geekhack custom keyboards.
Sorry about the confusion with the colors, I had testers but I guess it wasn't made clear enough. Everyone was hopefully on a level playing ground. Thanks to everyone who already ordered, there are still spots left!Half an hour in and there are still spots?!
I will be sending out the first round of invoices in an hour or so
Form will auto close when the pre order is full so keep them coming!
Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
About to pay, but before I do is it possible to change my response? Not going to change my number; just the address (since you're going to mail a confirmation letter) and I wish to get assembly services after all.
Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
About to pay, but before I do is it possible to change my response? Not going to change my number; just the address (since you're going to mail a confirmation letter) and I wish to get assembly services after all.
If you go back to your response you should be able to change it manually. Let me know if you cant figure it out. No worries though, we can get it worked out.
Paid, but my shipping address on my paypal is different than the shipping address I put on the form. I want the address on the form, is there any way to indicate this?
About to pay, but before I do is it possible to change my response? Not going to change my number; just the address (since you're going to mail a confirmation letter) and I wish to get assembly services after all.
If you go back to your response you should be able to change it manually. Let me know if you cant figure it out. No worries though, we can get it worked out.
Okay guys im going to bed, ill send out more invoices as they come. Thanks so much for your support, can't wait till you see the prototype!Paid! :thumb:
Okay guys im going to bed, ill send out more invoices as they come. Thanks so much for your support, can't wait till you see the prototype!
Fingers crossed for my number.... paid!Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
Fingers crossed for my number.... paid!Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
Dr. Hubble - shipping address in the paypal invoice is not the same as what I submitted in the pre-order form; either address should be fine but the one submitted via paypal would be preferred if it's not a hassle for you to change it.
So what colors did y'all end up voting on? I really want a gun metal / dark gray option, but teal, purple, red, black, or some shade of blue all appeal to me. I can't spare the suspense, anyone else ask for #42?
I will do anything to get my hands on gold. Even if it costs an extra arm after I've already paid a leg.
Fingers crossed for my number.... paid!Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
Dr. Hubble - shipping address in the paypal invoice is not the same as what I submitted in the pre-order form; either address should be fine but the one submitted via paypal would be preferred if it's not a hassle for you to change it.
So what colors did y'all end up voting on? I really want a gun metal / dark gray option, but teal, purple, red, black, or some shade of blue all appeal to me. I can't spare the suspense, anyone else ask for #42?
Dark Grey is up on my list, also added a Lime Green vote.
I know of one person who may or may not have asked for 42! Was not in my list of numbers tho.
Fingers crossed for my number.... paid!Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
Dr. Hubble - shipping address in the paypal invoice is not the same as what I submitted in the pre-order form; either address should be fine but the one submitted via paypal would be preferred if it's not a hassle for you to change it.
So what colors did y'all end up voting on? I really want a gun metal / dark gray option, but teal, purple, red, black, or some shade of blue all appeal to me. I can't spare the suspense, anyone else ask for #42?
All right. So far none of my numbers have been shown!
I was after 23
Fingers crossed for my number.... paid!Sorry for the delay, the invoices should have just gone out! Ignore your confirmation email you have 18 hours to submit payment (24 for international orders)
Is the invoice number related at all to the keyboard number?
No, your number will come with your thank you note in the mail!
Dr. Hubble - shipping address in the paypal invoice is not the same as what I submitted in the pre-order form; either address should be fine but the one submitted via paypal would be preferred if it's not a hassle for you to change it.
So what colors did y'all end up voting on? I really want a gun metal / dark gray option, but teal, purple, red, black, or some shade of blue all appeal to me. I can't spare the suspense, anyone else ask for #42?
42
And we only don't know why this is the answer because no one know the question.42
The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything.
14, 10, 17. fingers crossed.
No. Maybe something like a certificate of authenticity though. :P
No. Maybe something like a certificate of authenticity though. :P
Yeah, that's what I figured. Can't hurt to dream...
4 8 15 16 23 42
Interesting that Hubbs is going to mail a pre-order confirmation. Could it include a custom keycap with our number on it?! :-X
Nah... :blank:
Hey Dr. Hubble, is it too late to pay for my invoice? I went to bed after putting in my order and it has been well past 8 hrs since then :(Ignore the confirmation email, its 18 hours after the invoice is sent, so if you pay now, your all good :thumb:
I am so far pleasantly surprised how many people have gotten their first choice!
P.S.: I hope for an aluminum plate option. And would be cool if it could be color-anodized. I thought the light gold plate for the Skeldon design looked awesome in person when I briefly saw it. Would be interesting in other colors too, but if it begins to pile up the costs (extra labor), I understand why it might be better to stick with the basic silver.
God I completely forgot about this yesterday! Hope I still got in on it. I don't actually care what number I get :)
I have paid for the invoice. Does that mean I have gotten the no. I want? :-*
I don't think so in this case, as nothing relevantly conductive should be touching the plate. I just prefer the feel of aluminum plates to steel, for nicer springiness. Steel feels very rigid as a plate for my liking.
God I completely forgot about this yesterday! Hope I still got in on it. I don't actually care what number I get :)
I believe Hubble said the form would go down automatically once enough people had ordered, so if you've filled out the form, you should be good!I have paid for the invoice. Does that mean I have gotten the no. I want? :-*
Unfortunately not necessarily. I think our numbers are being mailed to us.
I don't think so in this case, as nothing relevantly conductive should be touching the plate. I just prefer the feel of aluminum plates to steel, for nicer springiness. Steel feels very rigid as a plate for my liking.
For me, this depends on the switch.
Aluminum for tactile. Steel for linear.
Intelli's on twitter talking about how he got number 13. Have the letters been sent out yet? How does he know? Is he just talking smack?
https://twitter.com/keychatter/status/624290916971507712 (https://twitter.com/keychatter/status/624290916971507712)
Intelli's on twitter talking about how he got number 13. Have the letters been sent out yet? How does he know? Is he just talking smack?livingspeedbump has taken over Keychatter.
https://twitter.com/keychatter/status/624290916971507712 (https://twitter.com/keychatter/status/624290916971507712)
Got lucky #13 in the Mira pre-sale. So stoked!
@hjc1710 actual kb #. I was invoice 9 even though I entered right at 9pm. That was a good sign of how much interest there was :)
Someone's got an inside source O_oQuoteGot lucky #13 in the Mira pre-sale. So stoked!
@hjc1710 actual kb #. I was invoice 9 even though I entered right at 9pm. That was a good sign of how much interest there was :)
Now I'm really curious which number I got; stupid order form kept tripping me up cause it didn't specify how many colors to list as interested in until you tried to submit.
Okay everyone calm down it's going to be alright :))(http://i.imgur.com/vNJAYxY.jpg)
If you submitted a form within the first few minutes, it's very likely you got the number you wanted and almost guaranteed you got one of your top three.
The only reason livingspeedbump knows his number because I personally endorsed a trade to allow another member to have the number they wanted that meant a lot to them. I don't intend on making any other exceptions so please don't PM me asking for trades. While I told the two that all of this was to remain hush till everyone else got their number, clearly they did not follow instructions. I apologize for any anxiety, don't worry, you will all get your numbers soon. :thumb:
Okay everyone calm down it's going to be alright :))
If you submitted a form within the first few minutes, it's very likely you got the number you wanted and almost guaranteed you got one of your top three.
The only reason livingspeedbump knows his number because I personally endorsed a trade to allow another member to have the number they wanted that meant a lot to them. I don't intend on making any other exceptions so please don't PM me asking for trades. While I told the two that all of this was to remain hush till everyone else got their number, clearly they did not follow instructions. I apologize for any anxiety, don't worry, you will all get your numbers soon. :thumb:
This board looks really cool! Good job! Do you consider doing such an IC for a 60% board?Slow down there turbo. One project to fund at a time! . But seriously, I would like to see another Mira type board in 60%.
Is the pre-order still open?
I was just asking if that's something they'll want to do. I know that it couldn't be before months. ;)This board looks really cool! Good job! Do you consider doing such an IC for a 60% board?Slow down there turbo. One project to fund at a time! . But seriously, I would like to see another Mira type board in 60%.
Am I allowed to request a number higher than 57? I really want 84 or 63
Am I allowed to request a number higher than 57? I really want 84 or 63
No.
Am I allowed to request a number higher than 57? I really want 84 or 63
No.
:(
I didn't get an invoice after submitting the form. Did we hit 57 already?
I didn't get an invoice after submitting the form. Did we hit 57 already?
I sent out your invoice this morning, please check your inbox :thumb:
@DrHubblePhd - I hope you got my stack of emails - I had trouble with PayPal, and sent you payment from a different account. My email is jasonm23 ... at gmail. I updated with jasonm23+sg at gmail, and sent payment with that.
Please let me know you got all that ok, as I'm still waiting for a reply. (I know you're busy, I just want to make sure the pre-order is safe!!!)
I really hope that these won't be sold out by the time we get a prototype.
I was kinda hoping we could see it before the rest of the ordering went on. :(
Any update on mailed certificates?
First 15 go out tommorow!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rhB0Sqk.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/QwNaFEs.jpg)
#gethype
Nice.
I guess I won't be getting mine until one or two batches from now, seeing how I'm number 36
I am pretty sure that #7 is addressed to me! ;)
I am pretty sure that #7 is addressed to me! ;)
No, it's addressed to ME. :mad:
At least, if my second number was chosen. Which of course it wasn't, right Hubbs? So that means I'll get mine later if I got my first choice?! :-*
I am pretty sure that #7 is addressed to me! ;)
No, it's addressed to ME. :mad:
At least, if my second number was chosen. Which of course it wasn't, right Hubbs? So that means I'll get mine later if I got my first choice?! :-*
No! But if ever you got it first, I'm def okay with my 2nd choice :)
Nice.
I guess I won't be getting mine until one or two batches from now, seeing how I'm number 36
They will go out quicker now that I have my template set, I just need to get some more envelopes :))
or not,Nice.
I guess I won't be getting mine until one or two batches from now, seeing how I'm number 36
They will go out quicker now that I have my template set, I just need to get some more envelopes :))
Since you didn't say I wasn't, I'm now sure I'm 36 :)
Thanks!
hubbs plsI am pretty sure that #7 is addressed to me! ;)
No, it's addressed to ME. :mad:
At least, if my second number was chosen. Which of course it wasn't, right Hubbs? So that means I'll get mine later if I got my first choice?! :-*
No! But if ever you got it first, I'm def okay with my 2nd choice :)
What if I told you only one of you was wrongShow Image(http://www.cinemit.com/images/drevil.jpg)
Is that a cookie cutter PCB? Why are there smd rgb leds underneath if the case is aluminum?
Looks cool!If we get to vote, I'd vote for this too; white or black would be sleek :thumb:
May I vote for a neutral color PCB? Like white, black, gray? Or are those mucho expensive?
Looks cool!
May I vote for a neutral color PCB? Like white, black, gray? Or are those mucho expensive?
PCB looks amazeballs. Hubble, can you explain how the RGB LEDs will work with the current case design?
hojin puts RGB backlight on all of his PCBs, probably just for general use. Even if the board doesn't use it, he will still include it because it is something all of his boards b series and newer use.PCB looks amazeballs. Hubble, can you explain how the RGB LEDs will work with the current case design?
I'm pretty curious about that as well to be honest. :)
hojin puts RGB backlight on all of his PCBs, probably just for general use. Even if the board doesn't use it, he will still include it because it is something all of his boards b series and newer use.PCB looks amazeballs. Hubble, can you explain how the RGB LEDs will work with the current case design?
I'm pretty curious about that as well to be honest. :)
Looks cool!
May I vote for a neutral color PCB? Like white, black, gray? Or are those mucho expensive?
When I bought my b.87, I remember the other colors costs a bit more than green pcb. Maybe he just sent the green one for the prototype. I am hoping we get to choose other color as I would love to get the pcb in white again.
Will the silver type Mira look like the Orion V1 or the V2 in terms of materials?The V2 case in the picture looks like it's the unfinished prototype (http://duck0113.tistory.com/m/post/117).Show Image(http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/263D7B3F54DF5E9835FD76)
Imo the v2 is much better looking. I've seen some customs which have this rough kind of aluminum and others which have a smooth surface and I think the smooth surface is much prettier.
FYi I'm going to be backpacking for the next five days, so I will be unable to answer questions or send out invoices. I will catch up on everything when I get back :thumb:
FYi I'm going to be backpacking for the next five days, so I will be unable to answer questions or send out invoices. I will catch up on everything when I get back :thumb:
FYi I'm going to be backpacking for the next five days, so I will be unable to answer questions or send out invoices. I will catch up on everything when I get back :thumb:
Sending out invoices? Invoices already are going out for this?
Or did you mean the rest of the certificates?
I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
Oh, those invoices. I believe I was one of the first 57, and if so that's already been paid for.
Thought I missed a post or something!
I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
Oh, those invoices. I believe I was one of the first 57, and if so that's already been paid for.
Thought I missed a post or something!
I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
Oh, those invoices. I believe I was one of the first 57, and if so that's already been paid for.
Thought I missed a post or something!
yeah, not sure if any of the first 57 still need to pay their $40 pre-order. I was talking about the remaining balance
There have been some design tweaks and other decisions made since that number was tossed around so it's anybody's guess at this point.I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
Oh, those invoices. I believe I was one of the first 57, and if so that's already been paid for.
Thought I missed a post or something!
yeah, not sure if any of the first 57 still need to pay their $40 pre-order. I was talking about the remaining balance
Okay, yeah; that's what I thought. I don't think there's even a price yet, but it'll be $400+, I believe.
There have been some design tweaks and other decisions made since that number was tossed around so it's anybody's guess at this point.I believe invoices won't be sent until there it's an approved prototype
He has been accepting pre-orders for a while now. The initial "Fab 57" have been spoken for, but you can still put down a $40 deposit as your pre-order if you're interested in helping to fund the prototype.
Oh, those invoices. I believe I was one of the first 57, and if so that's already been paid for.
Thought I missed a post or something!
yeah, not sure if any of the first 57 still need to pay their $40 pre-order. I was talking about the remaining balance
Okay, yeah; that's what I thought. I don't think there's even a price yet, but it'll be $400+, I believe.
LOL are you laying your claim there, abjr?
Hot diggity-dog! You're the first so far as we know! That's great to hear! Here's hoping I don't get mine yet as my first choice definitely wasn't in the top 15.LOL are you laying your claim there, abjr?
Only reporting what the postman delivered ;) I guess I'm the first? Wasn't one of the 3 numbers I picked, and for ordering so late, I'm surprised I got such a low number.
Looks like I am officially #14 of the Fab 57. That wasn't any of my choices, so if someone desperately wants 14 for some reason I'm willing to consider trades. :cool:
Just curious: For those who didn't get any of their top three, did you submit your forms as soon as it was allowed?
Just curious: For those who didn't get any of their top three, did you submit your forms as soon as it was allowed?
I just got home and back on the Internet. I sent out the invoices that I missed while gone. Please give me time to catch up on messages as well as a number of other things since getting home. Please be patient!
ooh i see. Also a question on the assembly service that will be provided for limited boards. Would we need to provide the materials (switches, leds, etc) or will they be included given that you pay for the cost of them?If hubble / thechemist don't want to do switch tuning, I would be more than happy to help out, but I don't have many supplies anymore, but I could always get more.
15 here. Can't remember if I picked primes or perfect squares, but I didn't get 'em :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g3c5125.jpg)
15 here. Can't remember if I picked primes or perfect squares, but I didn't get 'em :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g3c5125.jpg)
What no Sexy Primes?
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag?
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
I thought there was something already, lol.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PaLEuIQ.jpg)
I thought there was something already, lol.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PaLEuIQ.jpg)
There are agnowledgements and a unique number currently. I was just wondering if people would interested in adding a little extra custom touch to their board :thumb:
I thought there was something already, lol.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PaLEuIQ.jpg)
There are agnowledgements and a unique number currently. I was just wondering if people would interested in adding a little extra custom touch to their board :thumb:
On a serious note... can I get your autograph then? :)
I thought there was something already, lol.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PaLEuIQ.jpg)
There are agnowledgements and a unique number currently. I was just wondering if people would interested in adding a little extra custom touch to their board :thumb:
On a serious note... can I get your autograph then? :)
we'll see :p
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
My suggestion for engraving options:Show Image(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy207/ALXis0/all_symbols.jpg)
It could also be an optional charge. Since they are custom, it would be handled case by case and you should be able to opt out and keep your price a bit lower
Quick update time!
I spoke with the CNC company, they said they had finished the plate and the rest of the parts were still on schedule!
Had some other ideas I would love some opinions on:
- What about a custom message, username,etc. engraving option for your Mira Weight?
- If not a message, a custom emblem?
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
My suggestion for engraving options:Show Image(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy207/ALXis0/all_symbols.jpg)
Well we can already see that the one side of the weight is pretty full already from this entirely official final render.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dbx3Nix.jpg)
Okay, so maybe this isn't the final design of the weight... however you can see that it is pretty full.
It would be nice however if the custom engravings were done on the other side of the weight which would actually be visible on the back of the board.
I love the idea of offering custom engravings for people.
Something to keep in mind is that there are probably others like me who might not be able to come up with a design in time or would rather source their own engravings locally.
If we are going down the custom engraving route, please include the option to leave it COMPLETELY blank for those of us who would rather get it done at a later date.
This is an excellent idea though, and I certainly hope it can happen.
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
You know there's a new Cospar? [/list]
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
You should get with MiTo and revive Cospar... https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62327.0
Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))You know there's a new Cospar? [/list]
- would anyone like to design a keyset in conjunction with me to compliment the Mira? I don't have experience with it and would love an accomplice who has designed some keysets/run buys in the past. PM me if you are interested, perhaps we can make it a contest for some cool Mira swag? Even if you dont have experience feel free to reach out to me :thumb:
Anyways, those are some ideas that came to mind recently. Nothing final or too serious as of now, just looking for some thoughts.
You should get with MiTo and revive Cospar... https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62327.0
Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
I'm still not sure about having the word "****" engraved specifically and deliberately on my custom keyboard :p
Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
Since it is space-themed, you could engrave the Pioneer plaque image!
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Hmmm, thinking more about it, maybe it isn't a good idea... :))
Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
ahh okay, I still think the Mira deserves a classy space themed keyset. Maybe its just me though :))
The current carbon set in the IC matches this set of colour and he's really nice looking.Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
ahh okay, I still think the Mira deserves a classy space themed keyset. Maybe its just me though :))
I agree. I was just trying to link the "revised Cospar" version, but I'd prefer a different set for this. Maybe something with black, white, and silver/gray? I know that's bland, but that's all I can brainstorm with the space theme.
yeah maybe not haha. Just to be clear im thinking about a small symbol next to the number not something to cover the entire thing :))I'd like to see engraved at least the pulsar map to Earth. :)
yeah maybe not haha. Just to be clear im thinking about a small symbol next to the number not something to cover the entire thing :))I'd like to see engraved at least the pulsar map to Earth. :)
I am in on this! But a couple of noob questions.
- Are only the first 57 numbered?
- are there a total of 100 boards being made, or is that just the Pre-order limit?
Thanks
I am in on this! But a couple of noob questions.
- Are only the first 57 numbered?
- are there a total of 100 boards being made, or is that just the Pre-order limit?
Thanks
All of them are numbered but the first 57 got to choose and get gold stabilizers.
I think up to 100 boards can be made, but if only 87 people order then 87 will be made.
DrHubble can correct me if I'm wrong :)
The current carbon set in the IC matches this set of colour and he's really nice looking.Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
ahh okay, I still think the Mira deserves a classy space themed keyset. Maybe its just me though :))
I agree. I was just trying to link the "revised Cospar" version, but I'd prefer a different set for this. Maybe something with black, white, and silver/gray? I know that's bland, but that's all I can brainstorm with the space theme.
Also I was just going to make some swag for myself but I would be open to running a teespring campaign for these if anyone is interested :DShow Image(http://puu.sh/jAf7z/24c9b8ee17.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf88/feb01df3e1.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf9b/1c646c2dda.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAfa4/41aca2bae7.jpg)
Also I was just going to make some swag for myself but I would be open to running a teespring campaign for these if anyone is interested :DShow Image(http://puu.sh/jAf7z/24c9b8ee17.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf88/feb01df3e1.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf9b/1c646c2dda.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAfa4/41aca2bae7.jpg)
Wow, you're really getting into this...
I am in on this! But a couple of noob questions.
- Are only the first 57 numbered?
- are there a total of 100 boards being made, or is that just the Pre-order limit?
Thanks
All of them are numbered but the first 57 got to choose and get gold stabilizers.
I think up to 100 boards can be made, but if only 87 people order then 87 will be made.
DrHubble can correct me if I'm wrong :)
You got it :thumb:
Wonder if that's the invoice number?
I am in on this! But a couple of noob questions.
- Are only the first 57 numbered?
- are there a total of 100 boards being made, or is that just the Pre-order limit?
Thanks
All of them are numbered but the first 57 got to choose and get gold stabilizers.
I think up to 100 boards can be made, but if only 87 people order then 87 will be made.
DrHubble can correct me if I'm wrong :)
You got it :thumb:
Wood hooo!
So once you've paid your Pre-order $40, I assume you get a number. Wonder if that's the invoice number?
Accessories-wise, I'd be interested in an acrylic dust protection cover with the Mira logo on it or some such, pending on price.Yes! Keyboards need to have fitted covers. There needs to be a GB for all the keyboards with no covers/skins.
Accessories-wise, I'd be interested in an acrylic dust protection cover with the Mira logo on it or some such, pending on price.Yes! Keyboards need to have fitted covers. There needs to be a GB for all the keyboards with no covers/skins.
Oh OK thanks.The current carbon set in the IC matches this set of colour and he's really nice looking.Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
ahh okay, I still think the Mira deserves a classy space themed keyset. Maybe its just me though :))
I agree. I was just trying to link the "revised Cospar" version, but I'd prefer a different set for this. Maybe something with black, white, and silver/gray? I know that's bland, but that's all I can brainstorm with the space theme.
Carbon is in GB on Massdrop right now, FYI.
Personally, I think I will be using hyperfuse GMK on mine. I will be interested in seeing what colour scheme you come up with for this board though.
Also I was just going to make some swag for myself but I would be open to running a teespring campaign for these if anyone is interested :DShow Image(http://puu.sh/jAf7z/24c9b8ee17.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf88/feb01df3e1.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAf9b/1c646c2dda.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jAfa4/41aca2bae7.jpg)
Interested, but depends mostly on price!
Shirts and hoodies?
And is that the discounted price?
I'm sure I'm in the minority but - any chance of swag on the other side of the "extra-" spectrum?
I'm sure I'm in the minority but - any chance of swag on the other side of the "extra-" spectrum?
If this about sizes then Teespring goes all the way up to 5XL. :thumb:
Ha ha! Skinny! You're a small, skinny McSkinnerson!I'm sure I'm in the minority but - any chance of swag on the other side of the "extra-" spectrum?
If this about sizes then Teespring goes all the way up to 5XL. :thumb:
Sorry, I meant the opposite side as in, XS? Maybe? For me, a Men's Small is the rough equivalent of buying a Mira Mumu.
I'm sure I'm in the minority but - any chance of swag on the other side of the "extra-" spectrum?
If this about sizes then Teespring goes all the way up to 5XL. :thumb:
Sorry, I meant the opposite side as in, XS? Maybe? For me, a Men's Small is the rough equivalent of buying a Mira Mumu.
I haven't received my discount code yet, it's been an hour. Thanks, Obama :( :( :( :(
Also remember that you cannot, for any reason sell your spot or number for any profit. If you do you will lose your spot and your $40 :eek:
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dQilHRh.png)
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Hahahahaha. I should've been more clear but that was a solid interpretation...
But no, I'm just short, tiny, and occasionally inarticulate - also female, mostly Asian, and well beyond the age at which I might possibly keep growing. As a reference point, the HHKB Fn-Up combo is a legit stretch. No ****.
I guess there's no Mira swag in my future. :-(
Edit: I would totally bite on some non-wearables!
...a nice coffee mug would look great next to my keyboard. :p
Im not sure im prepared for the ****storm involved with using the term MiTo or Cospar :))
Sorry, I meant this one: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74350.msg1829489#msg1829489.
(Was on my phone earlier and too lazy to have linked it.)
someone send me the coupon for the shirt and sweater please.
someone send me the coupon for the shirt and sweater please.
Don't know if I'm allowed to give my coupon away, but you can have mine if there are no issues doing that
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
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IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKSI think this is it, best get saving my pennies now will have to put a order in tomorrow :I
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VnQU34z.gif)
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
I don't mean to be weird but would it be at all possible to get a case bottom milled out of foggy trans polycarb?
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
Really no need for a half plate with switch cutouts :p but if thats really your style then you could always produce one yourself!
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okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
Really no need for a half plate with switch cutouts :p but if thats really your style then you could always produce one yourself!
Might have to! I just love the feel of PCB mounted switches for my alphas.
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
Really no need for a half plate with switch cutouts :p but if thats really your style then you could always produce one yourself!
Might have to! I just love the feel of PCB mounted switches for my alphas.
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
This is so beautiful...
Is there any chance half-plates might be available? ;D
Really no need for a half plate with switch cutouts :p but if thats really your style then you could always produce one yourself!
I feel sorry for my wallet. :pShow Image(http://puu.sh/jC2vd/937d93a4d9.jpg)
Grr tapatalk double post, sorry :(
Dank memes have been done. Took a bit of work since I am on mobileGrr tapatalk double post, sorry :(
replace it with a dank meme to make it up to me
#HYPE dat moment when you find that what you saw is what you'll getShow Image(http://puu.sh/jC2vd/937d93a4d9.jpg)
2dank4me
I'm actually in the market for a new jumper and it's surprisingly hard to find nice, plain ones locally here.
Might pick up both the shirt and jumper to be honest.
Can anyone confirm the level of quality of these tee spring shirts/jumpers and provide a comparison or even RL pics of similar products purchased from them.
I'd just like to make sure they aren't selling crap.
And what are the sizes like? Accurate? Are they fat sizes eg. L is more like XL?
I don't mean to take this off topic but I'm sure I'm not the only curious party.
Doc are the estimate still more or less accurate to what the final cost will be $400ish as I have check and can get this but just wanted to check it's still looking around that price :) if so am I okay just to plop a preorder still for one of the non 57 onesI am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.
I'm actually in the market for a new jumper and it's surprisingly hard to find nice, plain ones locally here.
Might pick up both the shirt and jumper to be honest.
Can anyone confirm the level of quality of these tee spring shirts/jumpers and provide a comparison or even RL pics of similar products purchased from them.
I'd just like to make sure they aren't selling crap.
And what are the sizes like? Accurate? Are they fat sizes eg. L is more like XL?
I don't mean to take this off topic but I'm sure I'm not the only curious party.
I am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.Okay awesome I shall wait till monday :)
I am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.
I am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.
Note: now that this amazing prototype is making the rounds, your order quantity may exceed 100... assuming you're still willing to expand the group buy to meed demand. That may affect order prices. Just a thought...
Personally, I don't care about secondary market value, as my board will not be sold. Reducing the purchase price is very attractive to me.
Personally, I don't care about secondary market value, as my board will not be sold. Reducing the purchase price is very attractive to me.
Exclusivity shouldn't be a reason to not drop the purchase price. It's kind of a **** move, especially if all the 100 places are taken already.
I know that hojin has options of presoldering, but that might not apply to your PCBs. If for some reason you don't have enough time for any soldering I would be willing to help in order to take the load off of your hands :)Personally, I don't care about secondary market value, as my board will not be sold. Reducing the purchase price is very attractive to me.
Exclusivity shouldn't be a reason to not drop the purchase price. It's kind of a **** move, especially if all the 100 places are taken already.
Well its not just my decision is what Im saying. Some people care very much about exclusivity and their opinion matters just as much. I will also say that all 100 spots have not been taken. Im just trying to be considerate and fare.
Also realize that I have to package, ship, and potentially solder all these boards! Thats a huge time commitment and im not sure I can handle 150 units :confused:
I know that hojin has options of presoldering, but that might not apply to your PCBs. If for some reason you don't have enough time for any soldering I would be willing to help in order to take the load off of your hands :)Personally, I don't care about secondary market value, as my board will not be sold. Reducing the purchase price is very attractive to me.
Exclusivity shouldn't be a reason to not drop the purchase price. It's kind of a **** move, especially if all the 100 places are taken already.
Well its not just my decision is what Im saying. Some people care very much about exclusivity and their opinion matters just as much. I will also say that all 100 spots have not been taken. Im just trying to be considerate and fare.
Also realize that I have to package, ship, and potentially solder all these boards! Thats a huge time commitment and im not sure I can handle 150 units :confused:
If you hadn't had enough hype...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iogjzyg.jpg)
If you hadn't had enough hype...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iogjzyg.jpg)
36....
Where is 36????
If you hadn't had enough hype...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iogjzyg.jpg)
If you hadn't had enough hype...Frostytoast is buying a lot of Mira keyboards xDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iogjzyg.jpg)
IM OFFICIALLY STUCK ON CAPS LOCK CAUSE IM SO EXCITED. LOOK AT DIS FOLKS
#THEHYPEISREAAAAAAALShow Image(http://puu.sh/jBGkA/43e51431cc.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jBGlV/8260c618cc.jpg)
okay i have calmed down a bit... obviously its unfinished e.g. no blasting or anodizing but boy is it pretty :eek:
If you hadn't had enough hype...Frostytoast is buying a lot of Mira keyboards xDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Iogjzyg.jpg)
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
Alright why don't you leave that up to ninjadoc, who did the searching for you, to decide.
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
Alright why don't you leave that up to ninjadoc, who did the searching for you, to decide.
I'll ignore your rather aggressive tone, since I'm not sure what about that statement made you so angry.
I think it's rather fair for me to ask that people for now lay off this shop that for all intensive purposes doesn't do productions runs his small regularly. If you have a problem with that you can talk to me directly, cause I don't need Ninjadoc to know what constitutes a sound decision for the sanity of everyone involved.
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
Alright why don't you leave that up to ninjadoc, who did the searching for you, to decide.
I'll ignore your rather aggressive tone, since I'm not sure what about that statement made you so angry.
I think it's rather fair for me to ask that people for now lay off this shop that for all intensive purposes doesn't do productions runs his small regularly. If you have a problem with that you can talk to me directly, cause I don't need Ninjadoc to know what constitutes a sound decision for the sanity of everyone involved.
As a friend of ninjadoc who talked to him quite often, I feel you don't respect what exactly he has done for you. Rather then "partner" up to make more money off of people, why don't you stick to your word like assembling hwoods board instead of delaying it for two weeks without even messaging him, rather then pretending to be a saint, why don't you just pay respects to who they are due, rather then pretend nothing can happen without you. Aggressive tone? Why don't you be more thankful that he found the place for you rather then monetizing it?
So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
Alright why don't you leave that up to ninjadoc, who did the searching for you, to decide.
I'll ignore your rather aggressive tone, since I'm not sure what about that statement made you so angry.
I think it's rather fair for me to ask that people for now lay off this shop that for all intensive purposes doesn't do productions runs his small regularly. If you have a problem with that you can talk to me directly, cause I don't need Ninjadoc to know what constitutes a sound decision for the sanity of everyone involved.
As a friend of ninjadoc who talked to him quite often, I feel you don't respect what exactly he has done for you. Rather then "partner" up to make more money off of people, why don't you stick to your word like assembling hwoods board instead of delaying it for two weeks without even messaging him, rather then pretending to be a saint, why don't you just pay respects to who they are due, rather then pretend nothing can happen without you. Aggressive tone? Why don't you be more thankful that he found the place for you rather then monetizing it?
Alright, I don't know what prompted any of this, but it does not belong in this thread. If there's a beef with the GB organizer failing to deliver previous promises that you want to bring to light due to relevance with running a GB, that's one thing, and should be handled by the customer in question. All other topics brought up thus far do not seem to be relevant and are threadcrapping. Any further posts of this nature will be removed if the OP requests it, and offenders may be warned.
1000th comment!So, what manufacturer ended up producing the case? It could be a great resource for US based projects having a manufacturer with experience in custom keyboard cases. I'm sure many would appreciate the info!
Unfortunately I can't reveal who the manufacturer is. They have been already gracious enough to accept such a strange order and I would hate for them to get flooded with half serious requests from the keyboard community. If anyone would really like to use the same shop they can contact me and maybe we can partner up to get it made!
Alright why don't you leave that up to ninjadoc, who did the searching for you, to decide.
I'll ignore your rather aggressive tone, since I'm not sure what about that statement made you so angry.
I think it's rather fair for me to ask that people for now lay off this shop that for all intensive purposes doesn't do productions runs his small regularly. If you have a problem with that you can talk to me directly, cause I don't need Ninjadoc to know what constitutes a sound decision for the sanity of everyone involved.
As a friend of ninjadoc who talked to him quite often, I feel you don't respect what exactly he has done for you. Rather then "partner" up to make more money off of people, why don't you stick to your word like assembling hwoods board instead of delaying it for two weeks without even messaging him, rather then pretending to be a saint, why don't you just pay respects to who they are due, rather then pretend nothing can happen without you. Aggressive tone? Why don't you be more thankful that he found the place for you rather then monetizing it?
What the **** is happening in here?
First off, what the hell does Hwood's keyboard have to do with the organization of this group buy? That is an entirely separate matter.
Hubble did indeed credit Ninjadoc by having his name engraved on the Mira weights as well as printed on the letters. I don't know how else he was repaid, however I know that other contributors such as Zeal and I have been treated more than fairly by DrHubblePhD.
I find it amusing how you chastise Hubble for his "unfair" gratitude of Ninjadoc while not showing recognition for Hubble's work.
In what way is he pretending that nothing can happen without Hubble? It's blatantly obvious that this would not have existed in the first place without his work.
It is without question in poor taste to scorn someone for monetizing their own work; this is what seems to be happening here.
You have no idea how much time and effort this man has put into this project. Do you really expect him to do this for free?
For god's sake you can at least show some gratitude for one's efforts by giving them your patronage.
Well on a more positive note, I bit the bullet and bought into the hype swag. I could really use a nice new jumper and tee.
Hopefully teespring delivers good products, looks like they will.
By the way, minimum HAS been reached for anyone who was waiting to order until then.
Forget everything that happened cause Im about to blow your mind with (mostly) finished proto photos...I'm ready to be blown :thumb:
Forget everything that happened cause Im about to blow your mind with (mostly) finished proto photos...I'm ready to be blown :thumb:
More shots of it in piecesDr you owe me a new pair of pants with all these picture .¬.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGdh.jpg)
You can see the weight still needs some touch ups and smoothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/QKAq12mh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qJZ8ybnh.jpg)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kfxyKH0h.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KlQVwqEh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SQ4px0hh.jpg)
Still not in my possession, but it looks like our contact likes the look of the Mira on his desk :))
Hasn't been anodized or anything but it already looks great. Let me know what you think about just getting a clear coat on the proto since it was going to be anodized silver anyways :p
More shots of it in piecesDr you owe me a new pair of pants with all these picture .¬.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGdh.jpg)
You can see the weight still needs some touch ups and smoothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/QKAq12mh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qJZ8ybnh.jpg)
Also anyword on final pricing yet? And a question I keep meaning to ask if you have winkey blockers does that change the entire bottom row to a odd layout or require a different kit when getting keysets?
More shots of it in piecesDr you owe me a new pair of pants with all these picture .¬.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGdh.jpg)
You can see the weight still needs some touch ups and smoothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/QKAq12mh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qJZ8ybnh.jpg)
Also anyword on final pricing yet? And a question I keep meaning to ask if you have winkey blockers does that change the entire bottom row to a odd layout or require a different kit when getting keysets?
Makes the bottom row
1.5u - blocker - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - blocker - 1.5u
If I'm not mistaken
So you'd have to get, what.. A Tsangan kit, so you can get those keys
More shots of it in piecesDr you owe me a new pair of pants with all these picture .¬.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGdh.jpg)
You can see the weight still needs some touch ups and smoothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/QKAq12mh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qJZ8ybnh.jpg)
Also anyword on final pricing yet? And a question I keep meaning to ask if you have winkey blockers does that change the entire bottom row to a odd layout or require a different kit when getting keysets?
Makes the bottom row
1.5u - blocker - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - blocker - 1.5u
If I'm not mistaken
So you'd have to get, what.. A Tsangan kit, so you can get those keys
I'm still hoping there'll be an option for ANSI125 full bottom row.
ahh right thankyou, I just always worry about it well at least thats usually offered more than iso :xMore shots of it in piecesDr you owe me a new pair of pants with all these picture .¬.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGdh.jpg)
You can see the weight still needs some touch ups and smoothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/QKAq12mh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qJZ8ybnh.jpg)
Also anyword on final pricing yet? And a question I keep meaning to ask if you have winkey blockers does that change the entire bottom row to a odd layout or require a different kit when getting keysets?
Makes the bottom row
1.5u - blocker - 1.5u - 7u - 1.5u - blocker - 1.5u
If I'm not mistaken
So you'd have to get, what.. A Tsangan kit, so you can get those keys
And right when you thought you were safe from hype... BOOMShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/k3CoVOlh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UcNt52zh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7EaGs8Hh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MET1DtRh.jpg)
And right when you thought you were safe from hype... BOOMShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/k3CoVOlh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UcNt52zh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7EaGs8Hh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MET1DtRh.jpg)
Shots are looking good. Excited to see a fit check of the PCB and plate. And getting bummed that I won't be able to pick one up.
I've complied all the posts with pictures so far. Would be great to see these in the 2nd post instead of scattered in the ends of the thread.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1834284#msg1834284
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837607#msg1837607
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837522#msg1837522
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837497#msg1837497
There is such a thing as clear anodizing. :cool:
Shots are looking good. Excited to see a fit check of the PCB and plate. And getting bummed that I won't be able to pick one up.Thanks for compiling those for me, I will add all the photos in the 1st reply in the thread when I get to my computer at home. :thumb:
I've complied all the posts with pictures so far. Would be great to see these in the 2nd post instead of scattered in the ends of the thread.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1834284#msg1834284
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837607#msg1837607
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837522#msg1837522
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1837497#msg1837497
I checked the first post and didn't see anything, but the final cost of this hasn't been finalized, correct?
Doc are the estimate still more or less accurate to what the final cost will be $400ish as I have check and can get this but just wanted to check it's still looking around that price :) if so am I okay just to plop a preorder still for one of the non 57 onesI am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.
I checked the first post and didn't see anything, but the final cost of this hasn't been finalized, correct?
Not yet, this is the latest update I saw:Doc are the estimate still more or less accurate to what the final cost will be $400ish as I have check and can get this but just wanted to check it's still looking around that price :) if so am I okay just to plop a preorder still for one of the non 57 onesI am going to call them on Monday to talk to them about that. Last time I mentioned my target price they told me it was likely that I would hit it.
I'm in it to win it!
I'm in it to win it!
If you ain't first, you're last.
Hubble, do you have a better idea of the assortment of colors you'll likely offer or is that all still up in the air?
What's the total mass of cast + weight + plate?
What's the total mass of cast + weight + plate?
What's the total mass of cast + weight + plate?
I obviously don't have your answer, but just pointing out that the case wasn't cast but milled. This actually matters for strength and precision.
Cyan! Cyan! Cyan!
Silver is always good though
Save it for the official poll boys :))Cyan! Cyan! Cyan!
Silver is always good though
Dark grey!!
kk but so much this grey to stayCyan! Cyan! Cyan!
Silver is always good though
Dark grey!!
In terms of theme I think a nasa blue color would look great
I'm in it to win it!
If you ain't first, you're last.
Hubble, do you have a better idea of the assortment of colors you'll likely offer or is that all still up in the air?
I think given the order count there should be no problem getting at least 3 colors produced. That said, I think silver is the perfect color already :))
Ill likely take another poll after I receive the board anodized to see what colors people want having seeing the proto.
Cyan! Cyan! Cyan!I like teal/cyan, but I don't think I'm bold enough to get a kb in cyan. :)) I like it more when used for accent coloring.
Silver is always good though
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Intl people who have pre ordered might be in the first group, would potentially still be waiting for it to turn up.
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Intl people who have pre ordered might be in the first group, would potentially still be waiting for it to turn up.
True true.
But there has been at least one person who has received theirs.
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Intl people who have pre ordered might be in the first group, would potentially still be waiting for it to turn up.
True true.
But there has been at least one person who has received theirs.
I know that quite a few people have gotten theirs. I just sent out 30 more envelopes today so your bound to get yours soon! :thumb:
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Intl people who have pre ordered might be in the first group, would potentially still be waiting for it to turn up.
True true.
But there has been at least one person who has received theirs.
I know that quite a few people have gotten theirs. I just sent out 30 more envelopes today so your bound to get yours soon! :thumb:
Where does these letters comes from again? I submitted my form at the exact time and missed both first and 2nd choices. Not a deal breaker, tbh. Hopefully, I'm in the 2nd batch. :)
pink+1000
Someone has. Number 7 I think. Or 5. Either way, someone has, since the first 15(?) were shipped out a while back
Quick question... since the winkeyless just features blockers over the winkeys, that would make the bottom row like this right?It would be 1.5u blocker 1.5u 7u space 1.5u blocker 1.5u
1.25u blocker 1.25u 6.25u 1.25u blocker 1.25u 1.25u ?
Can't wait for my letter.You're far from the only one hoping to get #42. ;D I doubt I'll get it, but I'll be happy knowing whoever winds up with it will appreciate its significance. Realistically, I'd be happy to get any of my top 3 numbers.
I submitted at 9:00:02, so really hoping I get my top choice (42). I
Just got back from Japan to this in the mail! :D
Also I was thinking... I'm assuming most people here are going to be using Cherry profile keys for this board and Hubble mentioned possibly getting a keycap set to go with it... I was thinking, JT Keycaps - the manufacturer working with CTRL[ALT] does custom legends on doubleshot thick cherry profile keys - maybe we could design a mod set or a series of novelty caps that go with the MIRA theme - maybe they could be a NASA or SpaceX logo or something? What do you guys think?
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Just got back from Japan to this in the mail! :D
Also I was thinking... I'm assuming most people here are going to be using Cherry profile keys for this board and Hubble mentioned possibly getting a keycap set to go with it... I was thinking, JT Keycaps - the manufacturer working with CTRL[ALT] does custom legends on doubleshot thick cherry profile keys - maybe we could design a mod set or a series of novelty caps that go with the MIRA theme - maybe they could be a NASA or SpaceX logo or something? What do you guys think?
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Make it so.
Also congrats on the number.
Got my Letter Today!!
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For those who are hype and want something else to read to hold them over, here's some reading I found about the old NASA logo which I believe served as the inspiration of the Mira font.Wow, that's cool. I never knew NASA had a logo change. They went back the meatball logo when I was but a wee child, so that's the design I've always known. And I had a childhood friend whose parents works for NASA...but it never came up.
Wired's article (http://www.wired.com/2015/08/nasas-logo-70s-ridiculously-cool/)
Display's Article (http://www.thisisdisplay.org/features/the_nasa_design_program/)
NASA Graphics Standards Manual (https://www.flickr.com/photos/thisisdisplay/sets/72157627467855309)
Forgive me if this has already been covered.
There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
Should people like me not in the first 57 also expect letters in the mail soon?
There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
Should people like me not in the first 57 also expect letters in the mail soon?
Unfortunately things just got a lot more difficult for me in terms of printing and such so it may be a bit. They will come eventually though!
I'm not sure if this has been answered before but, how steep is the angle?
Mira currently features:
- The custom b.Mira PCB from Winkeyless featuring his standard reprogramability functions and LED support, only controller parts will be pre-soldered (see below for more info)
- An engraved stainless Steel weight, slotted in the back of the case
- A full aluminum case
- 9 degree incline
- A SS or alu plate which will support both 87 and 84 (Winkeyless with built in blockers, not shown above)
- Gold plated stabilizer wire and cherry stabs for the first 57 buyers and standard wire for remaining purchases
I'm not sure if this has been answered before but, how steep is the angle?
Mira currently features:
- The custom b.Mira PCB from Winkeyless featuring his standard reprogramability functions and LED support, only controller parts will be pre-soldered (see below for more info)
- An engraved stainless Steel weight, slotted in the back of the case
- A full aluminum case
- 9 degree incline
- A SS or alu plate which will support both 87 and 84 (Winkeyless with built in blockers, not shown above)
- Gold plated stabilizer wire and cherry stabs for the first 57 buyers and standard wire for remaining purchases
There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
Does this means that the number we received in mail is 1 less than what we actually got?
Ok. Thanks.There were apparently a few errors in my letters. If you got #11 please contact me. Once everyone gets a letter I'll pose my spreadsheet with the numbering so that everyone can conform.
Does this means that the number we received in mail is 1 less than what we actually got?
No, it just means a couple, which I think i have already isolated may be wrong. Unless I contact you you're good! :thumb:
lolShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jRv3KWB.jpg)
Pretty surprised I didn't get any of my choices. Then again, I don't even remember what they were so hopefully someone got them that actually wanted them.
Woot Woot! I received my letter today!
Got mine! Yay! I'm part of the 57!
Only bummer is I didn't get any of my choices and I thought I submitted quickly enough. (In fact, my number is one away from my top choice.)
Who took my 27?!
Am I too late to the party?
Didn't get any of my three picks for number but I'm mostly here for the gold stabs anyway :). Pretty happy to see the results of the color poll, looks like we'll get some good choices for anodizing!
Didn't get any of my three picks for number but I'm mostly here for the gold stabs anyway :). Pretty happy to see the results of the color poll, looks like we'll get some good choices for anodizing!
Results?
Hey Doc, at some point before manufacturing starts, will we get to see pics of anodized samples? Is another business/entity doing that work?
Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
It is part of this GB as its says in the OP. I am now thinking of cancelling my Zealios order just to save up the $15 shipping fee.
Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
It is part of this GB as its says in the OP. I am now thinking of cancelling my Zealios order just to save up the $15 shipping fee.
You know what, I initially thought that and before I posted I reread it for clarity and completely overlooked it. :confused:
Super stoked on that as it saves me a little loot :p
I must be blind and dumb and dumb and blind, but where is there an option to add Zealios to the Mira?Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
It is part of this GB as its says in the OP. I am now thinking of cancelling my Zealios order just to save up the $15 shipping fee.
You know what, I initially thought that and before I posted I reread it for clarity and completely overlooked it. :confused:
Super stoked on that as it saves me a little loot
I must be blind and dumb and dumb and blind, but where is there an option to add Zealios to the Mira?Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
It is part of this GB as its says in the OP. I am now thinking of cancelling my Zealios order just to save up the $15 shipping fee.
You know what, I initially thought that and before I posted I reread it for clarity and completely overlooked it. :confused:
Super stoked on that as it saves me a little loot
Facts about the potential group buy:
The Mira will be a limited run of 100 boards (hopefully with the unique number engraved). The first 57 boards that are reserved (after the number of years NASA has been operating) will come with gold stabs from ZealPC! The remaining orders will receive the same items but standard stabilizers. More from ZealPC as he unveils his secret item (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69590.0) expect this awesome item to be a part of the buy as well. The number of the board will be assigned in the order they are reserved, as a result, some sort of down payment will likely be required upon ordering. Ordering will start as soon as the Group Buy is posted at a preset date and time.
Ah, yes. I see it now.I must be blind and dumb and dumb and blind, but where is there an option to add Zealios to the Mira?Just realized this doesn't actually come with "Zealios" and that I have to purchase those separately. :eek:Show Image(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=21680670)
It is part of this GB as its says in the OP. I am now thinking of cancelling my Zealios order just to save up the $15 shipping fee.
You know what, I initially thought that and before I posted I reread it for clarity and completely overlooked it. :confused:
Super stoked on that as it saves me a little lootQuoteFacts about the potential group buy:
The Mira will be a limited run of 100 boards (hopefully with the unique number engraved). The first 57 boards that are reserved (after the number of years NASA has been operating) will come with gold stabs from ZealPC! The remaining orders will receive the same items but standard stabilizers. More from ZealPC as he unveils his secret item (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69590.0) expect this awesome item to be a part of the buy as well. The number of the board will be assigned in the order they are reserved, as a result, some sort of down payment will likely be required upon ordering. Ordering will start as soon as the Group Buy is posted at a preset date and time.
Saw it too, but too excited so I just went ahead and ordered some Zealios anyway. There will probably be an option to add them to the Mira at the time of the GB. /shrug
Will the pricing of the Zealios switches being sold in the GB be the same as on Zeal's site?
Will the pricing of the Zealios switches being sold in the GB be the same as on Zeal's site?
Yea I think you can only order for the group buy on the site.
For some of you wondering if we can order extra Zealios thru this GB, here's what ZealPC's reply to my question.
"You can order extra Zealios with the Mira. From what DrHubble and I have been discussing, Mira orders will also be processed on my site. Though I still need to figure out a way to properly set it up (certain site limitations with adding an undesignated amount of switches to a combined drop down menu option)."
HEY. that also reminds me. I've yet to receive mine :(
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates recently I have been super busy with a wide variety of things.
Just spoke to the shop and they said the board should be done with anodizing by this Friday so I should have it to me sometime by the end of next week.
ON THE TOPIC OF COLOR CHOICE:
We spoke about the options that we could have for a run of this size. What he said was that for anodizing choices he is pretty limited ( E.G. Grey, Silver, Red, Blue). What he also told me was that if I wanted to offer powder coating we could do AS MANY COLORS AS WE WANTED, even one offs. So what might happen (I am of course interested to hear your opinions) is that I will offer a few basic anodizing colors with the option of having ANY COLOR YOU WANT in powder coat. What he told me was that the shop could do a very high quality powder coat that is actually MORE ware resistant than anodizing (essentially would be much less likely to show small dents or scratches). So up to you, but I think the ability to have essentially any color would be cool. :thumb:
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates recently I have been super busy with a wide variety of things.
Just spoke to the shop and they said the board should be done with anodizing by this Friday so I should have it to me sometime by the end of next week.
ON THE TOPIC OF COLOR CHOICE:
We spoke about the options that we could have for a run of this size. What he said was that for anodizing choices he is pretty limited ( E.G. Grey, Silver, Red, Blue). What he also told me was that if I wanted to offer powder coating we could do AS MANY COLORS AS WE WANTED, even one offs. So what might happen (I am of course interested to hear your opinions) is that I will offer a few basic anodizing colors with the option of having ANY COLOR YOU WANT in powder coat. What he told me was that the shop could do a very high quality powder coat that is actually MORE ware resistant than anodizing (essentially would be much less likely to show small dents or scratches). So up to you, but I think the ability to have essentially any color would be cool. :thumb:
#25. Sorry, too lazy to photograph an envelope.Didn't get any of my three picks for number but I'm mostly here for the gold stabs anyway :). Pretty happy to see the results of the color poll, looks like we'll get some good choices for anodizing!
Results?
Would it be possible to see a sample of the powder coat? Anything they have done (doesn't have to be a keyboard) would be nice to get an idea of what it would look like. Cool option if it works!
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
1000 times this. I figured my first choice (42) would be popular. My second choice (13) got sweetheart dealed out, and I didn't get my third choice. Apparently, 42 was on double secret reserve too? A lot of buildup with times and dates of form acceptance to have the chance to play the serial number lottery, and in the end, none of it mattered.
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
1000 times this. I figured my first choice (42) would be popular. My second choice (13) got sweetheart dealed out, and I didn't get my third choice. Apparently, 42 was on double secret reserve too? A lot of buildup with times and dates of form acceptance to have the chance to play the serial number lottery, and in the end, none of it mattered.
13 was my first choice but I was definitely late to order not that that would have mattered for me I guess. Really should have thought out my 2nd and 3rd choices a bit better tho I guess. iuno
There can't not be drama, drama is life.
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
1000 times this. I figured my first choice (42) would be popular. My second choice (13) got sweetheart dealed out, and I didn't get my third choice. Apparently, 42 was on double secret reserve too? A lot of buildup with times and dates of form acceptance to have the chance to play the serial number lottery, and in the end, none of it mattered.
13 was my first choice but I was definitely late to order not that that would have mattered for me I guess. Really should have thought out my 2nd and 3rd choices a bit better tho I guess. iuno
There can't not be drama, drama is life.
I don't think it's about drama at all. There was just a lot of excitement for the GB, and since the time "mattered", a lot of people took that seriously and to heart. Not only did I set an alarm, but I also changed dinner plans that night with friends, just so I could be absolutely sure I was next to my computer.
However now it turns out that it really was "pick any number up to 57... *Except for 13 and 14... **And also 42", which again, is fine if we were told up front. Of course people are going to feel a little bit down now because it turns out the process wasn't as straightforward or transparent as any of us believed.
So looking at the thread again, FrostyToast submitted 1 hour late and got 42.
I submit at 9:00:02 w/ 42 as my top request, but don't receive it.
Why even have this request system if the rules aren't going to be followed? You could as well just wrote, FrostyToast gets number 42, without making us jump through hoops to request a number. I literally set an alarm at 8:55PM just to be able to submit as close as possible to 9:00PM.
I get that FrostyToast helped you a lot and if you'd like to give him preference, that's totally fine, and I would actually support it. But don't create a number request system, then basically ignore the rules for it. Especially since you told another set of people their numbers, allowed them to swap, a week before you even sent the envelopes out. Actually, I don't care at all about what number I get. It doesn't make a huge deal to me. What I do care about, is the level of preferential treatment given to certain members makes this entire request system feel disingenous.
Regardless, I'm still in this GB b/c it's a beautiful keyboard, and I hope the buy is very successful, but this just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
1000 times this. I figured my first choice (42) would be popular. My second choice (13) got sweetheart dealed out, and I didn't get my third choice. Apparently, 42 was on double secret reserve too? A lot of buildup with times and dates of form acceptance to have the chance to play the serial number lottery, and in the end, none of it mattered.
13 was my first choice but I was definitely late to order not that that would have mattered for me I guess. Really should have thought out my 2nd and 3rd choices a bit better tho I guess. iuno
There can't not be drama, drama is life.
I don't think it's about drama at all. There was just a lot of excitement for the GB, and since the time "mattered", a lot of people took that seriously and to heart. Not only did I set an alarm, but I also changed dinner plans that night with friends, just so I could be absolutely sure I was next to my computer.
However now it turns out that it really was "pick any number up to 57... *Except for 13 and 14... **And also 42", which again, is fine if we were told up front. Of course people are going to feel a little bit down now because it turns out the process wasn't as straightforward or transparent as any of us believed.
It may just be me, but it seems that a lot of people who submitted quickly enough didn't get any of their numbers. I haven't gone through and checked all the posts, but enough people posted they didn't get any of their top three to stick to my memory. As I mentioned, I read Hubbs' post that he was surprised at the amount of people who were getting their top number, and I took that a little too close for comfort.
That said, I hope Hubbs took all 57 into consideration first before assigning numbers, especially since he opted people three slots. I.e. and slightly e.g., I hope I wasn't the 28th person who submitted and, after going in order, Hubbs just assigned me that number since all three of my choices were assigned already by the time he got to me instead of checking to see if my choices were more of a priority than everyone's as a whole.
Not sure whether that makes sense; I need more coffee. brb...
It may just be me, but it seems that a lot of people who submitted quickly enough didn't get any of their numbers. I haven't gone through and checked all the posts, but enough people posted they didn't get any of their top three to stick to my memory. As I mentioned, I read Hubbs' post that he was surprised at the amount of people who were getting their top number, and I took that a little too close for comfort.
That said, I hope Hubbs took all 57 into consideration first before assigning numbers, especially since he opted people three slots. I.e. and slightly e.g., I hope I wasn't the 28th person who submitted and, after going in order, Hubbs just assigned me that number since all three of my choices were assigned already by the time he got to me instead of checking to see if my choices were more of a priority than everyone's as a whole.
Not sure whether that makes sense; I need more coffee. brb...
Obviously the biggest concern here is that you guys did not know that #42 was available and weakened your chances at a third number. That I cannot address or justify.
Obviously the biggest concern here is that you guys did not know that #42 was available and weakened your chances at a third number. That I cannot address or justify.
This is the biggest issue here, in my opinion. Returning favors and granting number requests is totally reasonable (I think he reserved #1 or #2 for Zeal as well, right?), but the people submitting *only* 3 picks need to know that. To waste one of those preference picks on a number that you have zero chance of getting is just a shame. I think that most people can agree that the number is one of the least important parts of this group buy, but to even offer numbered units in the first place implies that you want it to be taken seriously. This is not the right way to do that. :-/
Was participation in the pre-order implied to be anonymous or something? Our names typically get posted all over in other GBs (paid invoices, shipping batches, etc) . The public number trading requests and general ambiguity would go away if a list of usernames and assigned numbers with a note that I indicates which choice it was. The problem seems to be the lack of transparency, maybe be more transparent?The way I have the numbers organized is with your real names and addresses, I would have to reformat my sheet (which I will do eventually) in order to share all the numbers. I don't want to run the Group buy in a way that makes other peoples spending habits obvious or creates tension between people just because of a number.
I originally got my top number. Someone else apparently really wanted it. Traded my number to them. The number shouldn't be a huge deal, at least in my big-bearded-opinion.
At the end of the day this is just about getting a Mira, not a number, and as cool as it could be to have a special number on the bottom of my keyboard, it changes nothing about how excited I am about this project.
Really, I'm just not quite understanding how to get upset over a number.
I originally got my top number. Someone else apparently really wanted it. Traded my number to them. The number shouldn't be a huge deal, at least in my big-bearded-opinion.
At the end of the day this is just about getting a Mira, not a number, and as cool as it could be to have a special number on the bottom of my keyboard, it changes nothing about how excited I am about this project.
Really, I'm just not quite understanding how to get upset over a number.
I originally got my top number. Someone else apparently really wanted it. Traded my number to them. The number shouldn't be a huge deal, at least in my big-bearded-opinion.
At the end of the day this is just about getting a Mira, not a number, and as cool as it could be to have a special number on the bottom of my keyboard, it changes nothing about how excited I am about this project.
Really, I'm just not quite understanding how to get upset over a number.
You got a number, traded it, and tweeted about it before letters even went out.
I don't remember seeing a mention of what the cost for building the keyboard would be, is that something we have a rough idea on? Just trying to have a rough estimate on total cost.
Even though I am late to this and didn't get to choose a number I think it will be fun just seeing what random one I get between 58-100.
I don't remember seeing a mention of what the cost for building the keyboard would be, is that something we have a rough idea on? Just trying to have a rough estimate on total cost.
Even though I am late to this and didn't get to choose a number I think it will be fun just seeing what random one I get between 58-100.
I don't remember seeing a mention of what the cost for building the keyboard would be, is that something we have a rough idea on? Just trying to have a rough estimate on total cost.
Even though I am late to this and didn't get to choose a number I think it will be fun just seeing what random one I get between 58-100.
Yeah this is something all these thread crapping number ****s don't seem to appreciate. There are many of us who have pre-ordered but missed the window to get into the first 57. We will be missing out on the gold stabs as well as the ability to select some number preferences despite having contributed just as much as them to the costs of the prototyping and pre-GB costs. I'm not complaining about missing out mind you, this was clearly stated in the OP and is absolutely fair enough. Though it definitely bothers me to see this thread getting crapped by people that are genuinely upset that they couldn't have their meme number and frankly it's pathetic.
On a positive note I got my swag shipping notice too, pretty excited about that.
Hey as long as my number is less than 58 I'm happy.
On a side note... For the "Do you intend on requesting assembly services?" question I answered "Yes, only SMD components" but I'd rather just do it myself. Anywhere to change that answer?
So, getting back to the subject... What is the additional cost for more anodizing options, Doc? And what colors are available?
Another day and still no letter.
I'll just stop looking for one at this point. If I get one, cool, if not, oh well. Not a big deal.
My swag will probably get here next week though
So, getting back to the subject... What is the additional cost for more anodizing options, Doc? And what colors are available?
Im not sure, we had some problems with the anodizing shop that we used for the prototype. We will most certainly be using a different one. At the moment though I am trying to get powder coat samples for you guys to see :p
Another day and still no letter.
I'll just stop looking for one at this point. If I get one, cool, if not, oh well. Not a big deal.
My swag will probably get here next week though
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
So, getting back to the subject... What is the additional cost for more anodizing options, Doc? And what colors are available?
Im not sure, we had some problems with the anodizing shop that we used for the prototype. We will most certainly be using a different one. At the moment though I am trying to get powder coat samples for you guys to see :p
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
yayy got my number! thanks dr, I sent you a PM earlier but forget about it now :)
Yeah, I saw his post before his number and I was hoping it would be 23 lolI am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
yayy got my number! thanks dr, I sent you a PM earlier but forget about it now :)
Oh, I get why you wanted that number.
Hey DrHubb -- The envelope that I received had #29 on it.. your spreadsheet has me as #28.
Which is correct? ;D
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Thanks for posting this Dr. Hubble - happy to have a single digit number if I can't have 42 :D! Do we need to do anything on our end?Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
Hey DrHubb -- The envelope that I received had #29 on it.. your spreadsheet has me as #28.
Which is correct? ;D
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
Am I blind or am I not even on that list? :))
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
Am I blind or am I not even on that list? :))
That's a little odd. We're you in the first 57 or the latter portion?
so ummm...why is there a sad face next to mine? QQ
What does the sad face mean?
I must know!
#19 bee tee dubs
so ummm...why is there a sad face next to mine? QQ
What does the sad face mean?
I must know!
#19 bee tee dubs
Probably that no one picked that number and since you were part of the original 57, but couldn't get any of your three choices, you were assigned that sad face number.
so ummm...why is there a sad face next to mine? QQ
What does the sad face mean?
I must know!
#19 bee tee dubs
That makes more sense.so ummm...why is there a sad face next to mine? QQ
What does the sad face mean?
I must know!
#19 bee tee dubs
It could be that the person who got that spot didn't pay on time.
I have no clue though to be honest.
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
That makes more sense.so ummm...why is there a sad face next to mine? QQ
What does the sad face mean?
I must know!
#19 bee tee dubs
It could be that the person who got that spot didn't pay on time.
I have no clue though to be honest.
Hubble, I don't see you on the list! I hope you're ending up with a board after all the work you're doing.
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
huh......(http://imgur.com/UPrT2vC.jpg)I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
Am I blind or am I not even on that list? :))
That's a little odd. We're you in the first 57 or the latter portion?
First 57.. I was mailed #15.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g3c5125.jpg)
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:So I'm listed here as #10, which was one of my numbers. That makes me happy.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:So I'm listed here as #10, which was one of my numbers. That makes me happy.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)Do we just ignore the number we were mailed if it doesn't match this spreadsheet?Nevermind, I see that you confirmed that in an earlier post.
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
My numbers not on there, it's the lucky guy number who gets a free Mira =D
Joking aside, i'm quite disappointed to see all this complaining about numbers. I thought these guys were better than that.
I don't think it's fair to judge others for what they assign value to. There's probably some meaningful item/idea/tradition/etc. in your life that is utterly trivial to me. It would be rude of me to be so dismissive about it just because I don't derive meaning and value from those same things.My numbers not on there, it's the lucky guy number who gets a free Mira =D
Joking aside, i'm quite disappointed to see all this complaining about numbers. I thought these guys were better than that.
I agree, it's just a number (I can say that because I don't have one). It would have been so much easier for the Doc if he just assigned the number in the order the orders came in (and went up to 100 :) )
I don't think it's fair to judge others for what they assign value to. There's probably some meaningful item/idea/tradition/etc. in your life that is utterly trivial to me. It would be rude of me to be so dismissive about it just because I don't derive meaning and value from those same things.My numbers not on there, it's the lucky guy number who gets a free Mira =D
Joking aside, i'm quite disappointed to see all this complaining about numbers. I thought these guys were better than that.
I agree, it's just a number (I can say that because I don't have one). It would have been so much easier for the Doc if he just assigned the number in the order the orders came in (and went up to 100 :) )
EDIT: It also strikes me as odd that this kind of attitude would show up here. This is a keyboard enthusiast community. The vast majority of people couldn't care less about a keyboard, because after all, it's just a keyboard. Who in their right mind spends hundreds of dollars on one, let alone multiple keyboards? Sounds a bit ignorant, doesn't it?
At the end of the day though nobody was guaranteed the number, you are buying a keyboard not a number.Correction: a *numbered* keyboard.
I am very sorry for the confusion, it seems printing letters got things all jumbled up, hopefully this makes some of you happy :thumb:Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUox/9ed89b0be3.png)Show Image(http://puu.sh/jRUpj/517ccc8f5f.png)
So are there any numbers past 57?
Hey DrHubb -- The envelope that I received had #29 on it.. your spreadsheet has me as #28.
Which is correct? ;D
The spreadsheet. He said just above that that the numbers were bumped by mistake when printing them out.
WotSo are there any numbers past 57?
I initially heard that there was going to be numbers > 57, but you wouldn't be able to choose, then I heard that there's not. I would be totally happy to get 64 ;)
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates recently I have been super busy with a wide variety of things.
Just spoke to the shop and they said the board should be done with anodizing by this Friday so I should have it to me sometime by the end of next week.
ON THE TOPIC OF COLOR CHOICE:
We spoke about the options that we could have for a run of this size. What he said was that for anodizing choices he is pretty limited ( E.G. Grey, Silver, Red, Blue). What he also told me was that if I wanted to offer powder coating we could do AS MANY COLORS AS WE WANTED, even one offs. So what might happen (I am of course interested to hear your opinions) is that I will offer a few basic anodizing colors with the option of having ANY COLOR YOU WANT in powder coat. What he told me was that the shop could do a very high quality powder coat that is actually MORE ware resistant than anodizing (essentially would be much less likely to show small dents or scratches). So up to you, but I think the ability to have essentially any color would be cool. :thumb:
So are there any numbers past 57?
I initially heard that there was going to be numbers > 57, but you wouldn't be able to choose, then I heard that there's not. I would be totally happy to get 64 ;)
Yea. Would have been nice to know if any where actually reserved so people would understand.
Also, I go back to what I said previously. I'd want to know how the numbers were assigned. Were they given out as orders came in? Or was everyone taken into account and then distributed accordingly.
I'm sure this will be revealed eventually
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates recently I have been super busy with a wide variety of things.
Just spoke to the shop and they said the board should be done with anodizing by this Friday so I should have it to me sometime by the end of next week.
ON THE TOPIC OF COLOR CHOICE:
We spoke about the options that we could have for a run of this size. What he said was that for anodizing choices he is pretty limited ( E.G. Grey, Silver, Red, Blue). What he also told me was that if I wanted to offer powder coating we could do AS MANY COLORS AS WE WANTED, even one offs. So what might happen (I am of course interested to hear your opinions) is that I will offer a few basic anodizing colors with the option of having ANY COLOR YOU WANT in powder coat. What he told me was that the shop could do a very high quality powder coat that is actually MORE ware resistant than anodizing (essentially would be much less likely to show small dents or scratches). So up to you, but I think the ability to have essentially any color would be cool. :thumb:
I'm addressing this and hopefully will not tick DrHubble off with it. First the board failed to give me notifications about new posts and I missed this discussion.
The anodizing issue is as much if not more my fault on relaying information about it and the issues involving it. I was trying to limit information flow through one person but DrHubble is busy beginning school so I will step in.
The anodizing companies are big bussinesses and usually do industrial items. Most don't seem to be interested in doing relatively small jobs and don't particularly seem concerned about providing a good finish for appearances. Color choice is limited by what they offer and by the set up cost to do the anodizing and for color changes. Oddly enough , to me anyway, grey is the hardest color to get a good product and has a variability from piece to piece - so top and bottom would not be the same color - like happened with the KMAC. Consistently of color, risk of burn marks, poorly anodized areas, and the method of placing the items in the tank is an issue. For instance - the company that did the prototype used clamps to dip it in the anodizing tank, resulting in clamp marks.
Did he describe his powder coating? Is it like a Duracoat or Cerakote process?
This goes back to notifications from the board. I thought this was off the table and ignored it when brought up by the shop. I had a piece of metal that was powdercoated and left it in the shop because of this. I also didn't ask any questions about the process - "they stated any color could be done" BUT I can guarantee it will not be that simple. As for metal flake powder coating, someone post a link or PM me a link because I suspect that is not an option. I didn't ask about the process because I didn't feel it was relavant. Obviously it is.I also will have to learn more about powder coating so I can ask intelligent questions.
I will address numbering in a separate post.
I can't call tomorrow and I'm unaware of DrHubble's schedule so it will be Tuesday before I can relay any information but he may be able to.
Yea. Would have been nice to know if any where actually reserved so people would understand.
Also, I go back to what I said previously. I'd want to know how the numbers were assigned. Were they given out as orders came in? Or was everyone taken into account and then distributed accordingly.
I'm sure this will be revealed eventually
Myself and Frosty have both donated time and money to the project. I've been amazed at the effort required to organize and get things done but it is understandable because it is business and they want to make money. Frosty supplied money and and time and contacts to make the PCB happen. I've spent time calling and submitting plans to shops, going over plans, discussing with DrHubble, visiting shops, and meeting with them to get the product. I paid for the prototype, and them was reimbursed after the preorder so we could get it done.
I never thought there would be that big of a deal about numbering. I can't speak for Frosty but when numbering came up, I asked if i could chose mine, thought about it a while, and gave him my number. I apologize about the uproar it caused but give Dr.Hubble credit, he allowed you to have input in your number; any other group buys that were numbered you simply received one and you had no idea what it was until you received the product.
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates recently I have been super busy with a wide variety of things.
Just spoke to the shop and they said the board should be done with anodizing by this Friday so I should have it to me sometime by the end of next week.
ON THE TOPIC OF COLOR CHOICE:
We spoke about the options that we could have for a run of this size. What he said was that for anodizing choices he is pretty limited ( E.G. Grey, Silver, Red, Blue). What he also told me was that if I wanted to offer powder coating we could do AS MANY COLORS AS WE WANTED, even one offs. So what might happen (I am of course interested to hear your opinions) is that I will offer a few basic anodizing colors with the option of having ANY COLOR YOU WANT in powder coat. What he told me was that the shop could do a very high quality powder coat that is actually MORE ware resistant than anodizing (essentially would be much less likely to show small dents or scratches). So up to you, but I think the ability to have essentially any color would be cool. :thumb:
Boards after 57 will still be numbered. I spoke with our contact and discussed powder coating, so Ninjadoc and I will look more into that to provide you with more information. Otherwise, thanks for that update Ninjadoc! :thumb:
Boards after 57 will still be numbered. I spoke with our contact and discussed powder coating, so Ninjadoc and I will look more into that to provide you with more information. Otherwise, thanks for that update Ninjadoc! :thumb:
Got my swag todayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gvtzEVm.jpg)
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I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
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I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
Plate is mounted on the underside of the top casing.
I just (cleverly!) noticed that the demo case is winkeyless.... is this the only option, because I love me my Super key.
I've made arrangements to meet with both the powdercoating company and an anodizing company the next two days. If possible I will see another company that does a Cerakote process. All are different, all offer advantages and disadvantages. All have told me that they have samples on site that I will at least be able to take pictures of. DrHubble has not shown pictures of the anodized Mira prototype because I still have it in hand for the companies to look at. As soon as I see them it will be shipped to him and he will show more pictures. Be excited, it's a great looking board!Cerakote would be so incredibly awesome, but I'm fairly sure it would come with a substantial price tag, if gun coatings are any indication - a full handgun goes for ~$150 and something AR-15 sized (probably closer to an entire keyboard in surface area) is in the $250 range. That said, you can get some seriously sweet colors and the finish is extremely durable, so it would certainly be an intriguing option for the Hubble Mira. Looking forward to seeing more - thanks for all your hard work ninjadoc!
So I've made my tour and received an education on aluminum coatings. I'll briefly mention them and when I'm back in town (next Tudesday) I'll pontificate about the advantages and disadvantages of them. Until then - a reading assignment - https://www.saf.com/how-to-specify/how-to-decide-between-anodizing-painting-and-powder-coating/
First anodizing - I didn't make it there because I spent to much time at the cerakote place. I've talked to theanodizer on the phone, sent them pictures, asked questions, and found out their base colors - clear, black, red, blue, pewter, violet, green, gold - there is no color change charge associated with these but until I have or see samples I can't tell you how they look. There is a good chance they will be reasonable and they have a reputation of putting out a good product. We will see what they tell me and I'll try to see them next Friday.
Second - the cerakote place. I was impressed. So much so they have one of my keyboards to cerakote and in a week or so we will know what cerakote looks like on a keyboard. http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/ These are the colors that are available and you can read about cerakote on that site. Apparently there is a two week course in Oregon that you take in order to be "certified" in the application of cerakote. This is a small shop and he is willing to work with us on this. He can use a base color and fill in the engraving of the "Mira" with a different color. In reference to MythicalWagu's post the cost is less than coating a gun (remember they have to disassemble the gun, coat all the pieces, and reassemble it). It is durable, only 1 - 3 millionths of an inch thick,normally doesn't chip and is scratch resistant.
Third - powder coating. I saw them last Thursday and was not impressed by that shop. It will work, you can get a good product, but I won't give that place our business. There are a few others I will check out and get back to everyone on. In closing I found this site - http://www.prismaticpowders.com - which is an interesting variation on powder coating that is close by. I'm going to see one of their "certified applicators" when I return from my trip.
In closing there are some good options, and if we stick with basic colors they will be reasonable. Cerakote seems like it will give a great product and we'll know more after I get my board back. The basic anodizing colors would give us some unique boards but we need to see samples before we make that leap and see a price. Powder coating has been done in the past and looks good.Powder coating using the prismatic colors would truly produce some unique results. As soon as I know more you will.
(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg)
I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
I suppose the plate is going to be secured by pressure exerted from the top and bottom part of the case?Show ImageShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg)
I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
To answer your question and whet everyone's appetite
(http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg)
I suppose the plate is going to be secured by pressure exerted from the top and bottom part of the case?Show ImageShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg)
I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
To answer your question and whet everyone's appetite
(http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg)
If the inner gap between the top and bottom case is slightly thicker than the plate, the plate won't be held firmly and there will be vibration?
If the plate is slightly thicker than gap between the top and bottom case, there will be large gap between the top bottom part when the board is assembled?
Even if the machining is perfect, but sandblasting and anodizing will still have an effect on the dimension.
Hmmmm. I am worried :rolleyes:
I am sorry boss. I have never seen any OTD and LZ board.I suppose the plate is going to be secured by pressure exerted from the top and bottom part of the case?Show ImageShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg)
I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
To answer your question and whet everyone's appetite
(http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg)
If the inner gap between the top and bottom case is slightly thicker than the plate, the plate won't be held firmly and there will be vibration?
If the plate is slightly thicker than gap between the top and bottom case, there will be large gap between the top bottom part when the board is assembled?
Even if the machining is perfect, but sandblasting and anodizing will still have an effect on the dimension.
Hmmmm. I am worried :rolleyes:
Do you not see the screw holes? It is mounted to the top the same way the LZ boards and the OTD boards are.
I am sorry boss. I have never seen any OTD and LZ board.I suppose the plate is going to be secured by pressure exerted from the top and bottom part of the case?Show ImageShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/URfeSGd.jpg)
I went over the pictures and have a question hubbs. How are we mounting the plate to the case? It doesn't look like the bottom has accommodations for it unless you have the screws to attach both case halves go through the plate as well. I don't remember seeing the top half of the case so maybe you had it attach there?
To answer your question and whet everyone's appetite
(http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/TXlEjxr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/6NzjZKA.jpg)
If the inner gap between the top and bottom case is slightly thicker than the plate, the plate won't be held firmly and there will be vibration?
If the plate is slightly thicker than gap between the top and bottom case, there will be large gap between the top bottom part when the board is assembled?
Even if the machining is perfect, but sandblasting and anodizing will still have an effect on the dimension.
Hmmmm. I am worried :rolleyes:
Do you not see the screw holes? It is mounted to the top the same way the LZ boards and the OTD boards are.
Edit:
If you have screwed the plate to the top part of the case, how are you going to screw the bottom half?
This is what I meant.
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It looks like a screw will go from the bottom of the case through the plate and thread in to the top casing.Then that could be a problem. Hmmmm.
I'm only going by the looks of it. It's possible that the prototype isn't 100% finished. In sure hubble and the gang have this under control. Ninja had multiple duck boards and hubble owned a 360c at one point.I am not sure about the older OTD and LZ, but none of my boards are mounted like that.
Ninja is saying the mounting is like otd boards and I know you've had a few of those yourself. Were those issues present with your ownership of the otd keyboards?
It looks like a screw will go from the bottom of the case through the plate and thread in to the top casing.Then that could be a problem. Hmmmm.
Especially when the plate is not held firmly by the top bottom of the case.
I really want this Mira and hope it will be good.More
It looks like a screw will go from the bottom of the case through the plate and thread in to the top casing.Then that could be a problem. Hmmmm.
Especially when the plate is not held firmly by the top bottom of the case.
I really want this Mira and hope it will be good.More
After reviewing the Mira you are correct in the attachment. I will address this with DrHubble and get back with everyone.
Hubble is assembling the prototype now and we'll know how it fits. The prototype has clear anodizing, cerakote i believe will be equivalent, powder coating will add a little more thickness to it.It looks like a screw will go from the bottom of the case through the plate and thread in to the top casing.Then that could be a problem. Hmmmm.
Especially when the plate is not held firmly by the top bottom of the case.
I really want this Mira and hope it will be good.More
After reviewing the Mira you are correct in the attachment. I will address this with DrHubble and get back with everyone.
So spoiler, the Mira is awesome, and there is 0 rattle in the plate. Im not completely done assembling, but yall are going to love it.
Do you have a guesstimate on when the GB will open? Need to make sure I have enough room. I'm a little tight this month, but if it happens soon I can clear up some space...
Do you have a guesstimate on when the GB will open? Need to make sure I have enough room. I'm a little tight this month, but if it happens soon I can clear up some space...
I'm kinda hoping October.... I have 3 paychecks in October ;D
Just curious if all the pre-order envelopes went out already.
Just curious if all the pre-order envelopes went out already.
Doesn't sound like they mean anything based on the fact that they went out to the wrong people
Okay sorry for disapearing for a bit. I have been busy with a lot of stuff lately.
But without further ado, I present to you the Hubble Mira!
sorry i lost my card reader, so potatoes only for now :-[Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciah/0e89259e88.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kcibK/adccaa5027.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciaP/883039fbc7.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciUg/54a821fe64.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciV0/b164871948.jpg)
...those shifts...seriously? :confused: Wellp that's one less set of RA2.0 out there, guys.
...those shifts...seriously? :confused: Wellp that's one less set of RA2.0 out there, guys.
Well i didnt pay an outragous amount of money for a prototype that nobody could even use! It is the only keyset I had on hand so the sacrifice had to be made. Its nothing personal :p
I dont have money to spend on that right now :))...those shifts...seriously? :confused: Wellp that's one less set of RA2.0 out there, guys.
Well i didnt pay an outragous amount of money for a prototype that nobody could even use! It is the only keyset I had on hand so the sacrifice had to be made. Its nothing personal :p
Shoulda bought a Tai Hao set or something, man! :O
Or just put 1u keys there :P
Very excited about this board, the prototype looks amazing! Great Job!!!
Which company did you end up going for the agonizing?
Very excited about this board, the prototype looks amazing! Great Job!!!
Which company did you end up going for the agonizing?
I laughed more than I should have
Very excited about this board, the prototype looks amazing! Great Job!!!
Which company did you end up going for the agonizing?
I laughed more than I should have
DrHubblePhd,
How much does the keyboard weigh, now that's all together?
I suspect that violet will be a big hit. ;D
I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though. :P
Second - the cerakote place. I was impressed. So much so they have one of my keyboards to cerakote and in a week or so we will know what cerakote looks like on a keyboard. http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/ These are the colors that are available and you can read about cerakote on that site. Apparently there is a two week course in Oregon that you take in order to be "certified" in the application of cerakote. This is a small shop and he is willing to work with us on this. He can use a base color and fill in the engraving of the "Mira" with a different color. In reference to MythicalWagu's post the cost is less than coating a gun (remember they have to disassemble the gun, coat all the pieces, and reassemble it). It is durable, only 1 - 3 millionths of an inch thick,normally doesn't chip and is scratch resistant.
Okay sorry for disapearing for a bit. I have been busy with a lot of stuff lately.
But without further ado, I present to you the Hubble Mira!
sorry i lost my card reader, so potatoes only for now :-[Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciah/0e89259e88.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kcibK/adccaa5027.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciaP/883039fbc7.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciUg/54a821fe64.jpg)Show Image(http://puu.sh/kciV0/b164871948.jpg)
okay so here is my unbiased review of the Mira prototype:
things that are great:
- Its undeniably beautiful, i had friends stop by and without knowing what it was thought it was awesome
- The weight is perfect. Not too heavy, not too light.
- The pcb and plate fit great and mount securly to the case
- There is no rattle or shaking in the plate when installed
things that will be fixed:
- The blockers are too tall, so i had to mutilate a couple shift keycaps. Easy fix.
- Minor spacing issues with the escape and left control keys
- USB hole is not large enough and is slightly too far right (about a mm)
- the screw threads are not deep enough on the weight, another easy fix
- The anodizing on the board was done poorly, we have already chosen a different shop, so no worries here
I hope you are excited as I am! Once we confirm the fixes with the shop and nail down our coating options I will announce a start date for the GB!
As far as anodizing we have located a company that has given us very fair prices with the ability to create custom options. Essentialy how it will probably work is that there will be no charge for base colors (Gold, black, blue, green, red, violet, bronze, blue pewter, and titanium), and if there are 10 or more people who want a custom color, they can pay a small amount and we will get it made. Ninjadoc has samples from this shop, so you can see when he posts them what it should look like.
Depending on the extra, i would be more interested in a dark grey / gun metal color.same thoughts here cotton depending on extra gunmetal/dark grey would be my first color choice !
Also still wanting to here about the cerakote and how much it might be to get that done!
Depending on the extra, i would be more interested in a dark grey / gun metal color.same thoughts here cotton depending on extra gunmetal/dark grey would be my first color choice !
Also still wanting to here about the cerakote and how much it might be to get that done!
Depending on the extra, i would be more interested in a dark grey / gun metal color.same thoughts here cotton depending on extra gunmetal/dark grey would be my first color choice !
Also still wanting to here about the cerakote and how much it might be to get that done!
Me as well!
Depending on the extra, i would be more interested in a dark grey / gun metal color.same thoughts here cotton depending on extra gunmetal/dark grey would be my first color choice !
Also still wanting to here about the cerakote and how much it might be to get that done!
Depending on the extra, i would be more interested in a dark grey / gun metal color.same thoughts here cotton depending on extra gunmetal/dark grey would be my first color choice !
Also still wanting to here about the cerakote and how much it might be to get that done!
Me as well!
I'm throwing down bank. Cerakote dank gray or gunmetal.
Isn't clear what most resembles the color of the prototype? And clear = light gray and pewter = dark gray?
Thanks!DrHubblePhd,
How much does the keyboard weigh, now that's all together?
If DrHubble had to sacrifice the shift keys from a RA 2.0 set what do you think the odds of him having a scale in his dorm room is? I weighed it before I shipped the prototype to him.
To give you an idea the board weighed 4 lbs , 14 ounces without plate, PCB, switches. I just weighed a built, stainless steel plated lightsaver PCB with switches, LED's, and keycaps which weighed 22 ounces.So it will weigh less than 6 lbs 4 ounces.
DrHubblePhd,
How much does the keyboard weigh, now that's all together?
If DrHubble had to sacrifice the shift keys from a RA 2.0 set what do you think the odds of him having a scale in his dorm room is? I weighed it before I shipped the prototype to him.
To give you an idea the board weighed 4 lbs , 14 ounces without plate, PCB, switches. I just weighed a built, stainless steel plated lightsaver PCB with switches, LED's, and keycaps which weighed 22 ounces.So it will weigh less than 6 lbs 4 ounces.
I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though. :p
I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though. :p
It is not north of $200 unless you go crazy. Cost is about $100 if a single color, cerakote would be about $35 a bottle additionial if it is a color he doesn't stock. If there is 5 or more you wouldn't have to pay for the cerakote. It might be less but that is the price I would plan on to start. I would have to talk to Hubble to see what the board cost would be if it wasn't anodized.
My board had messed up aluminum from the reanosizing and didn't cerakote well. The poor guy tried 5 times and still is unhappy with the result. I'm going to pick it up today and try to leave another one with him that hasn't been touched. I'm not sure if he will do it since my board was such a screwed up piece of junk.
Until we know how many and what changes would have to be done to correct the issues of the prototype I can't give a cost on what the board is to make. I can tell you be happy I'm not working by the hour on this thing or it would be bad. It truly takes a lot of time to design (Hubble), arrange production, correct issues (Hubble),get PCB made (Frosty, Zeal, Hubble) and arrange coatings for this. I can only imagine what sorting, packing, shipping, and soldering of the PCB's will be like. We are trying but real life gets in the way and jobs that are scheduled by the companies we are getting things done by prolongs the wait.
Isn't clear what most resembles the color of the prototype? And clear = light gray and pewter = dark gray?
This times a million Jokirk....! As long as the GB organizer does the best they can to update and keep things transparent (within reason) I feel people need to reevaluate there expectations and really think about the process before plunking down there money. It's a 2 way street between organizer and GB participant and I think communication and reasonable expectations are what separates failed and successful GBs. Ninjadoc you have been really on point on updating this thread and thank you for all your hardwork. Even though this GB has experienced some hiccups the feedback from the organizers has been great (IMO) and reassuring that its in good hands.I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though. :p
It is not north of $200 unless you go crazy. Cost is about $100 if a single color, cerakote would be about $35 a bottle additionial if it is a color he doesn't stock. If there is 5 or more you wouldn't have to pay for the cerakote. It might be less but that is the price I would plan on to start. I would have to talk to Hubble to see what the board cost would be if it wasn't anodized.
My board had messed up aluminum from the reanosizing and didn't cerakote well. The poor guy tried 5 times and still is unhappy with the result. I'm going to pick it up today and try to leave another one with him that hasn't been touched. I'm not sure if he will do it since my board was such a screwed up piece of junk.
Until we know how many and what changes would have to be done to correct the issues of the prototype I can't give a cost on what the board is to make. I can tell you be happy I'm not working by the hour on this thing or it would be bad. It truly takes a lot of time to design (Hubble), arrange production, correct issues (Hubble),get PCB made (Frosty, Zeal, Hubble) and arrange coatings for this. I can only imagine what sorting, packing, shipping, and soldering of the PCB's will be like. We are trying but real life gets in the way and jobs that are scheduled by the companies we are getting things done by prolongs the wait.
This is why people who join this GB need to straighten their expectation
This is a community driven project, don't try to demand things which puts pressure on the organizer. Want something instant, get an OEM keyboard
I've seen so many GB lately which went out of hand due to the organizer being overload, keep the drama out and the technicality more
Getting a 100% well made product is better than getting something half done due to time demand
tips how to join GB:
Throw your money and forget about it. Keep faith :D
I've the switches, springs and keyset ordered for this ;D
Im confused. I thought switches will be part of this GB? Should I be purchasing my own?I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though.
It is not north of $200 unless you go crazy. Cost is about $100 if a single color, cerakote would be about $35 a bottle additionial if it is a color he doesn't stock. If there is 5 or more you wouldn't have to pay for the cerakote. It might be less but that is the price I would plan on to start. I would have to talk to Hubble to see what the board cost would be if it wasn't anodized.
My board had messed up aluminum from the reanosizing and didn't cerakote well. The poor guy tried 5 times and still is unhappy with the result. I'm going to pick it up today and try to leave another one with him that hasn't been touched. I'm not sure if he will do it since my board was such a screwed up piece of junk.
Until we know how many and what changes would have to be done to correct the issues of the prototype I can't give a cost on what the board is to make. I can tell you be happy I'm not working by the hour on this thing or it would be bad. It truly takes a lot of time to design (Hubble), arrange production, correct issues (Hubble),get PCB made (Frosty, Zeal, Hubble) and arrange coatings for this. I can only imagine what sorting, packing, shipping, and soldering of the PCB's will be like. We are trying but real life gets in the way and jobs that are scheduled by the companies we are getting things done by prolongs the wait.
This is why people who join this GB need to straighten their expectation
This is a community driven project, don't try to demand things which puts pressure on the organizer. Want something instant, get an OEM keyboard
I've seen so many GB lately which went out of hand due to the organizer being overload, keep the drama out and the technicality more
Getting a 100% well made product is better than getting something half done due to time demand
tips how to join GB:
Throw your money and forget about it. Keep faith :D
I've the switches, springs and keyset ordered for this ;D
Im confused. I thought switches will be part of this GB? Should I be purchasing my own?I think the pewter is what I will go for. Has the cerakote idea been ditched?
The cost is significantly more than anodizing. I haven't discussed it with Hubble on offering it. I want to see what my keyboard looks like before I encourage or discourage cerakote. I will say I got my keyboard in a pearlescent/ color changing cerakote which probably wasn't the best choice for evaluating it as an option for this group buy.
Like north of $200? I know it's already expensive for rifles. I can only imagine what a place would charge for keyboards, assuming they would even entertain the job.
It's pretty much the ultimate end-game coating though.
It is not north of $200 unless you go crazy. Cost is about $100 if a single color, cerakote would be about $35 a bottle additionial if it is a color he doesn't stock. If there is 5 or more you wouldn't have to pay for the cerakote. It might be less but that is the price I would plan on to start. I would have to talk to Hubble to see what the board cost would be if it wasn't anodized.
My board had messed up aluminum from the reanosizing and didn't cerakote well. The poor guy tried 5 times and still is unhappy with the result. I'm going to pick it up today and try to leave another one with him that hasn't been touched. I'm not sure if he will do it since my board was such a screwed up piece of junk.
Until we know how many and what changes would have to be done to correct the issues of the prototype I can't give a cost on what the board is to make. I can tell you be happy I'm not working by the hour on this thing or it would be bad. It truly takes a lot of time to design (Hubble), arrange production, correct issues (Hubble),get PCB made (Frosty, Zeal, Hubble) and arrange coatings for this. I can only imagine what sorting, packing, shipping, and soldering of the PCB's will be like. We are trying but real life gets in the way and jobs that are scheduled by the companies we are getting things done by prolongs the wait.
This is why people who join this GB need to straighten their expectation
This is a community driven project, don't try to demand things which puts pressure on the organizer. Want something instant, get an OEM keyboard
I've seen so many GB lately which went out of hand due to the organizer being overload, keep the drama out and the technicality more
Getting a 100% well made product is better than getting something half done due to time demand
tips how to join GB:
Throw your money and forget about it. Keep faith :D
I've the switches, springs and keyset ordered for this ;D
Im confused. I thought switches will be part of this GB? Should I be purchasing my own?
Pretty sure Zealios are an option, but that's it.
But who isn't going to put Zealios in the Mira?
Im confused. I thought switches will be part of this GB? Should I be purchasing my own?
Pretty sure Zealios are an option, but that's it.
But who isn't going to put Zealios in the Mira?
Oh no, I can't stand tactile
Only can go clicky or vintage blacks so I've to buy them separately
I'll be orderingIm confused. I thought switches will be part of this GB? Should I be purchasing my own?
Pretty sure Zealios are an option, but that's it.
But who isn't going to put Zealios in the Mira?
Oh no, I can't stand tactile
Only can go clicky or vintage blacks so I've to buy them separately
*guilt trips Jokrik to get linear clear Zealios (psst, they're smoother)
Cerakote is OUT! Guy tried on my board five times and was unable to get a finish he was happy with. I had another board I brought in and he doesn't want to try another one. He spent to much time and money and was unable to get a finish that any of us would want on our desk. Sorry guys, he tried and I was really excited about the possibility but it was unsuccessful.Bummer. Well the effort is appreciated. Good to know what works and what doesn't. At least you guys found an anodizing shop.
That is a shame. Sort of odd how cerakote can be done on something so large and intricate as many guns are but cerakote didn't quite work out on a keyboard.
Cerakote is OUT! Guy tried on my board five times and was unable to get a finish he was happy with. I had another board I brought in and he doesn't want to try another one. He spent to much time and money and was unable to get a finish that any of us would want on our desk. Sorry guys, he tried and I was really excited about the possibility but it was unsuccessful.
That is a shame. Sort of odd how cerakote can be done on something so large and intricate as many guns are but cerakote didn't quite work out on a keyboard.
I wonder why? steel vs aluminum? type or steel/aluminum?
That is a shame. Sort of odd how cerakote can be done on something so large and intricate as many guns are but cerakote didn't quite work out on a keyboard.
I wonder why? steel vs aluminum? type or steel/aluminum?
AR15 receivers are typically 7000-series forged or milled aluminum. They take cerakote without any problems. The coating doesn't really care as much about surface material. Many guys cerakote their polymer stocks and grips.
Won't this board have some kind of rubber stands at the bottom? To keep it in place?
I think it was the board and what had been done to it in the past but we don't need to get this thread derailed discussing that because it doesn't change the fact that cerakote is off the table.
Hi there!You can. Under the the OP, you will see a link for late comers.
Can i still get in on this?
Okay sorry for disapearing for a bit. I have been busy with a lot of stuff lately.
But without further ado, I present to you the Hubble Mira!
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okay so here is my unbiased review of the Mira prototype:
things that are great:
- Its undeniably beautiful, i had friends stop by and without knowing what it was thought it was awesome
- The weight is perfect. Not too heavy, not too light.
- The pcb and plate fit great and mount securly to the case
- There is no rattle or shaking in the plate when installed
things that will be fixed:
- The blockers are too tall, so i had to mutilate a couple shift keycaps. Easy fix.
- Minor spacing issues with the escape and left control keys
- USB hole is not large enough and is slightly too far right (about a mm)
- the screw threads are not deep enough on the weight, another easy fix
- The anodizing on the board was done poorly, we have already chosen a different shop, so no worries here
I hope you are excited as I am! Once we confirm the fixes with the shop and nail down our coating options I will announce a start date for the GB!
As far as anodizing we have located a company that has given us very fair prices with the ability to create custom options. Essentialy how it will probably work is that there will be no charge for base colors (Gold, black, blue, green, red, violet, bronze, blue pewter, and titanium), and if there are 10 or more people who want a custom color, they can pay a small amount and we will get it made. Ninjadoc has samples from this shop, so you can see when he posts them what it should look like.
DrHubble is dealing with the sudden death of two friends at school so updates are delayed until he is back to working on the Mira. Sorry. If I find out anything about the current status I will let everyone know.As someone who's had a college friend pass away suddenly, I can imagine the pain he's going through, except double.
DrHubble is dealing with the sudden death of two friends at school so updates are delayed until he is back to working on the Mira. Sorry. If I find out anything about the current status I will let everyone know.
DrHubble is dealing with the sudden death of two friends at school so updates are delayed until he is back to working on the Mira. Sorry. If I find out anything about the current status I will let everyone know.
DrHubble is dealing with the sudden death of two friends at school so updates are delayed until he is back to working on the Mira. Sorry. If I find out anything about the current status I will let everyone know.
Update to come... please stand by, we are close to launch
Update to come... please stand by, we are close to launchCool
Update to come... please stand by, we are close to launch
Update to come... please stand by, we are close to launch
Gave spot #13 to Binge.
There will be more on the actual gb if I'm not wrong, unless you want that no 13Gave spot #13 to Binge.
:'(
There will be more on the actual gb if I'm not wrong, unless you want that no 13Gave spot #13 to Binge.
:'(
I keep forgetting but
I'll be giving away a Mira shirt (Medium) and a Mira Hoodie (also Medium) sometime soon.
So for those of you interested (and have placed a pre-order) just reply here and I'll select someone.
Not sure if I should do a giveaway for each or do a giveaway for both. Let me know what you guys think.
I keep forgetting but
I'll be giving away a Mira shirt (Medium) and a Mira Hoodie (also Medium) sometime soon.
So for those of you interested (and have placed a pre-order) just reply here and I'll select someone.
Not sure if I should do a giveaway for each or do a giveaway for both. Let me know what you guys think.
I keep forgetting but
I'll be giving away a Mira shirt (Medium) and a Mira Hoodie (also Medium) sometime soon.
So for those of you interested (and have placed a pre-order) just reply here and I'll select someone.
Not sure if I should do a giveaway for each or do a giveaway for both. Let me know what you guys think.
I keep forgetting but
I'll be giving away a Mira shirt (Medium) and a Mira Hoodie (also Medium) sometime soon.
So for those of you interested (and have placed a pre-order) just reply here and I'll select someone.
Not sure if I should do a giveaway for each or do a giveaway for both. Let me know what you guys think.
this IC is like one, long teaser. Doc, if this project does not meet MOQ, can we please talk about at least having the first 57 made, even if that means a higher price point?
this IC is like one, long teaser. Doc, if this project does not meet MOQ, can we please talk about at least having the first 57 made, even if that means a higher price point?
I never said we would just give up if the MOQ wasnt made. We have developed a trust with our current CNC shop, if we can go through them we would like to. If not, we find a different shop and try again. :thumb:
We are going to get it made.
Yea. I dont mind paying the cost of shipping. Not a problem.
So i guess here's the form (Made it quickly since i'm starting a midterm right now)
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1w6JaHyacXH2uRB4gIrzVnjscR3OzUNZ5w7sSBDLfqNA/viewform?usp=send_form
Hopefully everything's okay with the form.
Hmm, I'm not sure if I should go for this GB, or go for the 77 key Model F GB...
This is very nice.
I'm sorry if I didn't go through 30 pages of comments... but I would like to ask:
- iso compatible?
- why no standard bottom row?
- is it possible to have a non engraved top plate?
- is it compatible with gon or winkeyless pcb?
- does it need a plate?
- will the aluminium be anodized? Otherwise it will become opaque very soon
- what inclination does it have? It seems much more than a pok3r...
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
may I ask what it is?
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Should I be anticipating a clearance sale since you found your endgame? ;D
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Should I be anticipating a clearance sale since you found your endgame? ;D
he already sold Red Alert and an 456GT (!) in what I assume was a clearance after he got that Realforce... and now this.
I have been eyeing Mira the past couple of months. Is there a projected timeframe for completion yet? It sounds like the prototype is is pretty much hammered down and ready to go to full production after the GB phase ends. About how long will that take? Also will I be able to modify order details (i.e. switch to 87-key, change anodizing color details, etc) if I pick this up?
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Should I be anticipating a clearance sale since you found your endgame? ;D
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Should I be anticipating a clearance sale since you found your endgame? ;D
I still got more to sell, you just gotta wait and see ;)
Hey DrHubble, I sent ya a message about transferring my order to KaminKevCrew. :)And thanks again for the opportunity!
Thank you in advance <3
Hey guys, I'm letting go of my preorder spot (47) because I found my endgame. If anyone is interested please let me know :)
Should I be anticipating a clearance sale since you found your endgame? ;D
I still got more to sell, you just gotta wait and see ;)
I legit just set your classifieds thread to "notify" just because I saw you may or may not have a LZ CP...
Also, I legit just used the word legit. I need to stop.
Hey guys, letting go of my preorder spot in this GB, message if interested
Winners for the giveaway are:
Sweater - adamski07
Shirt - nathanrosspowell
Secret 2nd shirt - swimmingbird
Congrats guys!
I'll be PMing the winners shortly.
Winners for the giveaway are:
Sweater - adamski07
Shirt - nathanrosspowell
Secret 2nd shirt - swimmingbird
Congrats guys!
I'll be PMing the winners shortly.
Ends tomorrow.
Ends tomorrow.
Either it didn't truly end or I was able to fill out the form tonight because DrHubblePhD has neglected to neuter it.
And so here I am again.I'd be interested! Large would fit perfectly too! :)
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
Oh, my gosh. Are you me?And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
Are you Asian?Oh, my gosh. Are you me?And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
Are you Asian?Oh, my gosh. Are you me?And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
Are you Asian?Oh, my gosh. Are you me?And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
Close.
Latino.
And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
And so here I am again.
I had the MIRA sweater I had re-printed because of some issues, and received the new one.
I've decided to stick to my original so now I have a Large MIRA sweater to give away.
The Large I'm giving away has a bit of a grey color for the text instead of a nice white. I'll post a picture later.
So just post your interest here for the Large sweater and I'll pick someone by Friday night so I can ship it this weekend with the other winners.
K thanks bye
would a large fit a 5'8 160lb guy? If so, please throw my name in :) thanks for another giveaway!
same question, except 5'10" 170lb :D
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe too
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe too
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough money
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe too
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe too
Me three. :confused:
How much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyHow much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe tooHow much will it cost for a kit? i want to preorder but i'm scared i don't have enough moneyMe too
Me three. :confused:
In the OP the price is put at between $350 and $400
Okay guys update time!
So after talking to the manufacturer, it looks like we are going to need some big numbers to make the Mira happen. It will be a challenge to hit the necessary units, but damn it were going to try :p
Im hoping ninjadoc can fill you in on the finalized list of anodizing options. After we get a pricing scheme worked out I will set a day for the launch of the group buy.
More info to come.
-Hubble
Got my Mira Swag w/ bunch of goodies :D
Thanks again asdfjkl36! :thumb: I'll send you some of my caps once I get them done. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nLYNP4G.jpg)
Does anyone know if there are any pre-order (1-57) spots remaining? Is there a list somewhere? Is the pre-order even still going on? Mira could be my endgame TKL.
Thanks.
Two people have put their spots up for sale, and both have been purchased... (I got the second one that was put up)Does anyone know if there are any pre-order (1-57) spots remaining? Is there a list somewhere? Is the pre-order even still going on? Mira could be my endgame TKL.
Thanks.
The first 57 have been taken:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1849813#msg1849813
But i'm pretty sure you can still make a pre-order.
And i also feel like someone was trying to sell their spot...
Found it: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1899888#msg1899888
Two people have put their spots up for sale, and both have been purchased... (I got the second one that was put up)Does anyone know if there are any pre-order (1-57) spots remaining? Is there a list somewhere? Is the pre-order even still going on? Mira could be my endgame TKL.
Thanks.
The first 57 have been taken:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1849813#msg1849813
But i'm pretty sure you can still make a pre-order.
And i also feel like someone was trying to sell their spot...
Found it: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1899888#msg1899888
Huh, I guess I haven't been paying as close attention as I thought I was.Two people have put their spots up for sale, and both have been purchased... (I got the second one that was put up)Does anyone know if there are any pre-order (1-57) spots remaining? Is there a list somewhere? Is the pre-order even still going on? Mira could be my endgame TKL.
Thanks.
The first 57 have been taken:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1849813#msg1849813
But i'm pretty sure you can still make a pre-order.
And i also feel like someone was trying to sell their spot...
Found it: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1899888#msg1899888
Just from a quick look, a few have been up:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1868996#msg1868996
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1889762#msg1889762
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1899724#msg1899724 (the one you got)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1899888#msg1899888 (which i didnt see anyone claim / any public conversation of a transaction taking place)
It's worth a try if you really want one of the 57
I was hoping this would be a notification that I could buy the boardShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vbKClUM.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1gf7VoV.jpg)
I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
:'( I'll take your spot dude
I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
:'( I'll take your spot dude
Too slow on the go. So you're 46 and 7, swimming? :-[
Glad you got a spot you like more!I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
:'( I'll take your spot dude
Too slow on the go. So you're 46 and 7, swimming? :-[Yep - 46 is now available in case anyone wants it :)
Pending
Is this board still happening?
Just putting it back out there... I still have a family contact with a very nice machine shop here in Orlando who would be willing to give us a quote on 100 units if I asked. No pressure.
Doing this on my iPad is driving me insane!!! I can't edit the other post due to either the iPad or a physical issue I have! 😡
Finish- I always though bead blast or sandblast the case and be done. Not always true. They are both done with a wand and even though it will look like it is evenly done you can get streaking and uneven colors - especially with anodizing but apparently even with cerakote. I was referred to a shop by the anodizer that is used to do finer parts that appearance is important.
Plate - the plate cost was included in our estimate but if you check various group buys they usually cost around $35 to $50 dollars.
PCB - the Korean boards are the cheapest but you have to develop a relationship with the maker and there is the issue of making sure the plate matches, and find a cost point along with getting permission to use their PCB.
Shipping - the cases would have to be shipped to the finisher, the anodizer, and then either back to me or Dr.Hubble for sorting, shipping, and quality check.i didn't even check this cost but I guess I should along with making sure they were packed well going to each location.
Profit - I've heard the murmurs about DrHubble doing this to make money and that's it.i can assure you he would make little if anything on this. None of this can truly subsidize this to lower the price and I can assure you I'm loosing money on it no matter what happens.
OTD - newbies may not know what I mean but ask LZ and the Jane group buy organizer( sorry I would butcher your handle right now). They can ban you from Korean products and make it hard or impossible to get a PCB.
Time - DrHubble has design time, PCB time,talking to the shop and machine operators to get the CAD files in a usable state and try to make compromises and changes to reduce costs. I have no idea my time or Frostys but one day I spent 4 hours on the interstate going to one shop - that was one way. I can't tell you about Frosty or Zeal's time.
I've probably left something out but this gives you of what's required to get a custom keyboard done in the states. When I get back to town I will talk to the shop again and start calling others to see if another shop is interested. Jigs are a cost to make and I might even try to buy their jig if it will reduce the cost at another shop.
If you have any questions please post them in this thread. We are trying to get this board produced despite all the roadblocks.
Glad you got a spot you like more!I have a preorder spot to let go of #7. Other expenses have made it improbable i can do this anymore.
:'( I'll take your spot dude
Too slow on the go. So you're 46 and 7, swimming? :-[Yep - 46 is now available in case anyone wants it :)
Pending
Letting go of my preorder spot (#29), PM me if interested.
Letting go of my preorder spot (#29), PM me if interested.
Please double check your number ... #29 isn't yours.
Oh that's right, envelopes were sent out wrong, my bad.. mine is #28 and is nowLetting go of my preorder spot (#29), PM me if interested.
Please double check your number ... #29 isn't yours.
Still haven't got my envelope.. lol
Still haven't got my envelope.. lol
Is there any chance of that sheet being updated as different spots end up being sold, etc?Still haven't got my envelope.. lol
The envelopes were sent out incorrectly and as a result they have stopped going out.
If you want some sort of document there is a possibility we can produce certificates of authenticity. However, I do not make any promises that this is currently happening.
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
Hey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
I believe 37 should be me, not ATXTider, if I'm not mistaken.Quote from: DrHubblePhDHey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
I believe 37 should be me, not ATXTider, if I'm not mistaken.Quote from: DrHubblePhDHey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
I believe 37 should be me, not ATXTider, if I'm not mistaken.Quote from: DrHubblePhDHey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
I believe 37 should be me, not ATXTider, if I'm not mistaken.Quote from: DrHubblePhDHey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
Actually, you're wrong. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1849813#msg1849813
I believe I have yet to see messages from a few people who have given up their spots.
Please contact me, even if you have already contacted Dr. Hubble.
You must understand that this confusion of numbers will only make things more difficult.
We do not want to send the wrong numbered boards to people.
Mistakes with letters are easily fixable; keyboards are an entirely different story.
I also need whoever has spot #57 to contact me. I do not have your GeekHack username.
@Monotagary: I have you down for two spots. Please contact me with details about this matter.
I cannot edit the OP, but the spreadsheet that I will keep updated is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit?usp=sharing)
I believe 37 should be me, not ATXTider, if I'm not mistaken.Quote from: DrHubblePhDHey, sorry, your number 37 ATXTiger snuck in there :))
Actually, you're wrong. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70149.msg1849813#msg1849813
And why aren't I in the "current" spreadsheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
What a CF. I actually have an envelope and sticker...
Even more reason to doubt that this will ever happen.
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I didn't receive anything from the mail. I saw many people actually received some stickers.
Hmmmm.
Hi everyone, im super sorry that I havent been responsive. It really kills me to know you guys are trying to talk to me and cant. If you need to reach me, contact me over skype. Send me a friend request with something along the lines of "GH user: _____" and ill gladely shoot you a response when I can.
If you have tried to contact me to transfer numbers I have forwarded all the requests to FrostyToast. He will be handeling these requests for now since its not fair for you that this service isnt availible.
I dont really have time for a full update, but what you should know is that it IS happening, and that I havent given up AT ALL. I have temporarily stopped taking pre-orders, but you can feel free to continue to fill out the form if you want.
Ill see you guys soon. Miss ya :-*
Hi everyone, im super sorry that I havent been responsive. It really kills me to know you guys are trying to talk to me and cant. If you need to reach me, contact me over skype. Send me a friend request with something along the lines of "GH user: _____" and ill gladely shoot you a response when I can.
If you have tried to contact me to transfer numbers I have forwarded all the requests to FrostyToast. He will be handeling these requests for now since its not fair for you that this service isnt availible.
I dont really have time for a full update, but what you should know is that it IS happening, and that I havent given up AT ALL. I have temporarily stopped taking pre-orders, but you can feel free to continue to fill out the form if you want.
Ill see you guys soon. Miss ya :-*
If anyone would like spot #4, PM me. Bought the jane and got no money left :(
😏If anyone would like spot #4, PM me. Bought the jane and got no money left :(
PM'd
If anyone would like spot #4, PM me. Bought the jane and got no money left :(
PM'd
If anyone would like spot #4, PM me. Bought the jane and got no money left :(
PM'd
@o3okevin I am sorry that you cannot afford to be in this buy
I made the order change in the spreadsheet for you.
@ATXtider I have sent you a PM in case you missed it.
I'll take it over.If anyone would like spot #4, PM me. Bought the jane and got no money left :(
PM'd
@o3okevin I am sorry that you cannot afford to be in this buy
I made the order change in the spreadsheet for you.
@ATXtider I have sent you a PM in case you missed it.
Sorry about the confusion, I did not in fact sell my spot to elton5354. Still up for grabs!
So, how would I get in on this at this point? Submit the pre-order form? Take over someone else's order?
So, how would I get in on this at this point? Submit the pre-order form? Take over someone else's order?
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question...what is the estimate on final cost?
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question...what is the estimate on final cost?OP says estimated $350-400.
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question...what is the estimate on final cost?
We do not have a finite number yet since we are looking at two different shops.
However, the <$400 estimate that we gave out earlier seems quite realistic with one of the shops we have contacted.
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question...what is the estimate on final cost?OP says estimated $350-400.
I'll take it over.Mira and TGR Jane? jdcarpe is back to spending money on keyboards :D
I guess it's safe to assume this isn't going to be ready this year. Hopefully we can expect early next year! Waiting for the next update!Indeed! Hopefully it will happen! I'm looking into another custom, since this is taking so long, but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in this one when it happens! (it might be nice to take down the "group buy starting soon" bit in the title though, since it seems that it won't be happening for some time.)
I guess it's safe to assume this isn't going to be ready this year. Hopefully we can expect early next year! Waiting for the next update!
Well, I think those who endure the wait will have something really special in the end, kind of like those who've waited two years for their Round 5 caps and what not. The Mira is a super special board and this is an ambitious project, so delays are almost a given.
Well, I think those who endure the wait will have something really special in the end, kind of like those who've waited two years for their Round 5 caps and what not. The Mira is a super special board and this is an ambitious project, so delays are almost a given.
Yeah well I'd rather not wait 2 years :))
Bumpity Bump ;D
I've got a a quote pending on the board which seems reasonable. I'm unclear of details yet but I will let everyone know as soon as i can. I would like to thank Frosty for all his hard work on straightening out the financials and orders, Hubble for the design, and Yuksti for all his work and advice on this. Others have given input on shops, coatings,and other things we appreciate. With all of us working togethet I'm hoping we can get this produced at a reasonable price.
I've got a a quote pending on the board which seems reasonable. I'm unclear of details yet but I will let everyone know as soon as i can. I would like to thank Frosty for all his hard work on straightening out the financials and orders, Hubble for the design, and Yuksti for all his work and advice on this. Others have given input on shops, coatings,and other things we appreciate. With all of us working togethet I'm hoping we can get this produced at a reasonable price.
Obviously we are all disappointed in the progress of the Mira especially over the last 4 months. I have done a lot of legwork on it and I believe I can get it done but there is a reason for the recent delays and given the trend of GB leaders dropping off the face of the earth I'm relaying information about myself that I would normally keep private.The reason I haven't been on the board lately is that my condition has progressed more over the last 6 months to the point that I have difficulty with normal activities and I have no choice but surgery to possibly reverse its progression. I had one surgery last Tuesday and another is scheduled for tomorrow. This will obviously limit my activities but when I get more information I will try to relay it or have a family member do it for me. Thank you for your understanding.Thank you for the update! I for one really appreciate it.
Obviously we are all disappointed in the progress of the Mira especially over the last 4 months. I have done a lot of legwork on it and I believe I can get it done but there is a reason for the recent delays and given the trend of GB leaders dropping off the face of the earth I'm relaying information about myself that I would normally keep private.The reason I haven't been on the board lately is that my medical condition has progressed over the last 6 months to the point that I have difficulty with normal activities and I have no choice but surgery to possibly reverse or at least halt its progression. I had one surgery last Tuesday and another is scheduled for tomorrow. This will obviously limit my activities but when I get more information I will try to relay it or have a family member do it for me. Thank you for your understanding.
If I preordered about a month or so ago (after the initial get a special number if you preoder deal) my name should not be on that list correct?
*snip*
Either way if someone wants to pay me my pre-order they can have mine, sadly I don't have a fancy number to offer though.
Obviously we are all disappointed in the progress of the Mira especially over the last 4 months. I have done a lot of legwork on it and I believe I can get it done but there is a reason for the recent delays and given the trend of GB leaders dropping off the face of the earth I'm relaying information about myself that I would normally keep private.The reason I haven't been on the board lately is that my medical condition has progressed over the last 6 months to the point that I have difficulty with normal activities and I have no choice but surgery to possibly reverse or at least halt its progression. I had one surgery last Tuesday and another is scheduled for tomorrow. This will obviously limit my activities but when I get more information I will try to relay it or have a family member do it for me. Thank you for your understanding.
If I preordered about a month or so ago (after the initial get a special number if you preoder deal) my name should not be on that list correct?
*snip*
Either way if someone wants to pay me my pre-order they can have mine, sadly I don't have a fancy number to offer though.
You will want to remove a lot of information from this picture. There's information that you may not think is sensitive, but you do not want in a screenshot.
Alright I got everything sorted so if anyone is interested in buying my spot it's $40 PM me and I'll give you my paypal if no one else has snatched it yet. I confirmed that my pre-order was accounted for as you can see here
http://i.imgur.com/m6B1Spz.png
"starting soon"
"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
"on hold"
"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
"on hold"
"on"
"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
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"starting soon"
There's been no real update since October. This will be on hold for a while.
I guess if we want things to go slightly smoother like CFLX we could make the Mira a sandwich style skeleton case.
I guess if we want things to go slightly smoother like CFLX we could make the Mira a sandwich style skeleton case.
savage.
you could also try international shops, but I'm sure that's been suggested and turned down before since "muh top-tier murican manufacturing"
Just on a more serious note, due to the nature of this board's design and it's relatively low order count it's extremely hard to find a good shop in the states to work with.
We initially wanted this to be entirely in the States to serve as a hallmark for this community but we are now considering international options for a more achievable approach.
I guess if we want things to go slightly smoother like CFLX we could make the Mira a sandwich style skeleton case.
savage.
you could also try international shops, but I'm sure that's been suggested and turned down before since "muh top-tier murican manufacturing"
Such savage. Much wow.
Just on a more serious note, due to the nature of this board's design and it's relatively low order count it's extremely hard to find a good shop in the states to work with.
We initially wanted this to be entirely in the States to serve as a hallmark for this community but we are now considering international options for a more achievable approach.
Where is drhubble ???
I guess if we want things to go slightly smoother like CFLX we could make the Mira a sandwich style skeleton case.
savage.
you could also try international shops, but I'm sure that's been suggested and turned down before since "muh top-tier murican manufacturing"
Such savage. Much wow.
Just on a more serious note, due to the nature of this board's design and it's relatively low order count it's extremely hard to find a good shop in the states to work with.
We initially wanted this to be entirely in the States to serve as a hallmark for this community but we are now considering international options for a more achievable approach.
As much as I totally agree and stand behind the sentiment, you are correct. Sometimes it just isn't viable, and this is looking to be one of those cases. At this point I think people are just wanting to see it happen.
Disclaimer: Of course, shop local, when possible :thumb:
I guess if we want things to go slightly smoother like CFLX we could make the Mira a sandwich style skeleton case.
savage.
you could also try international shops, but I'm sure that's been suggested and turned down before since "muh top-tier murican manufacturing"
Such savage. Much wow.
Just on a more serious note, due to the nature of this board's design and it's relatively low order count it's extremely hard to find a good shop in the states to work with.
We initially wanted this to be entirely in the States to serve as a hallmark for this community but we are now considering international options for a more achievable approach.
As much as I totally agree and stand behind the sentiment, you are correct. Sometimes it just isn't viable, and this is looking to be one of those cases. At this point I think people are just wanting to see it happen.
Disclaimer: Of course, shop local, when possible :thumb:
We paid for a prototype and it was produced. I think we all agree it turned out well despite a few minor flaws (which I believe have been corrected). So, yeah, it would be nice if we could move this to the next logical stage. It feels like we've been right on the cusp of a group buy for too long.
I thought there was an issue with pricing, though, and they were looking at other, more economical options. They were aiming for $400 and I think the board would be far more expensive than that if made here.
Plus, the funds are non-refundable; I'm assuming that includes if this project fails, too.
100% American-made keyboard.
Zeal is Canadian. Sorry. :|
100% American-made keyboard.But he is American in the sense that he lives on the continent of North America
Zeal is Canadian. Sorry. :|
100% American-made keyboard.But he is American in the sense that he lives on the continent of North America
Zeal is Canadian. Sorry. :|
100% American-made keyboard.But he is American in the sense that he lives on the continent of North America
Zeal is Canadian. Sorry. :|
I frankly don't give a damn where it's produced. Just find a way to make this beautiful board a reality in the 400$ range preferably. Pretty please with a cherry on top.
I frankly don't give a damn where it's produced. Just find a way to make this beautiful board a reality in the 400$ range preferably. Pretty please with a cherry on top.
With Hubble being a student in high school and getting ready for college communication was difficult and he has been slow to respond at times. Without boring you with the details
With Hubble being a student in high school and getting ready for college communication was difficult and he has been slow to respond at times. Without boring you with the details
wait what didn't hubble say he was like a phd or something....
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
With Hubble being a student in high school and getting ready for college communication was difficult and he has been slow to respond at times. Without boring you with the details
wait what didn't hubble say he was like a phd or something....
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.
Giving himself the title PhD before he's earned it seems a tad bit pretentious.
But I'm going off the topic.
With Hubble being a student in high school and getting ready for college communication was difficult and he has been slow to respond at times. Without boring you with the details
wait what didn't hubble say he was like a phd or something....
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.
Giving himself the title PhD before he's earned it seems a tad bit pretentious.
But I'm going off the topic.
Yeah I thought I read that somewhere as well for the reason why he was so busy?
With Hubble being a student in high school and getting ready for college communication was difficult and he has been slow to respond at times. Without boring you with the details
wait what didn't hubble say he was like a phd or something....
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.
Giving himself the title PhD before he's earned it seems a tad bit pretentious.
But I'm going off the topic.
Yeah I thought I read that somewhere as well for the reason why he was so busy?
nope. he's in college now though
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.He's in his first year of college. It's a no PhD zone.
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.He's in his first year of college. It's a no PhD zone.
Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.He's in his first year of college. It's a no PhD zone.
He really must have some big plans then. Wait until he discovers alcohol, then we'll see about that PhD. :p
yet alone this gbHe doesn't need alcohol to kill his group buy. His stupidity has already resulted in stillbirth, wouldn't you agree?
#rekt
Designed in the United States. Made in China.Just like apple :eek:
Eh?
Well if we want it outsourced we'll be better off getting something else that is easily available in the market
from what I know, the original thought of this GB is to get something which is fully made in the US
and I don't know about anyone else, but it's the top reason why I support this GB
Well if we want it outsourced we'll be better off getting something else that is easily available in the market
from what I know, the original thought of this GB is to get something which is fully made in the US
and I don't know about anyone else, but it's the top reason why I support this GB
I thought this GB was supported because the custom board looked nice?
wait what didn't hubble say he was like a phd or something....Right? I thought he mentioned he was getting his PhD. As in he was already in school for it.
Giving himself the title PhD before he's earned it seems a tad bit pretentious.
But I'm going off the topic.
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
The pre order is to help pay for the prototype so that everyone is confident they know what they're paying for!
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
Don't be made a high schooler got you guys to pay for him to have a custom keyboard. :P #sorrynotsorryalso even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
Don't be made a high schooler got you guys to pay for him to have a custom keyboard. :P #sorrynotsorryalso even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
Don't be made a high schooler got you guys to pay for him to have a custom keyboard. :P #sorrynotsorryalso even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
Oh no, that's how I interpreted it as well. That $40 should be deducted from your final bill. What I was saying was that the funds have already been spent on the prototype, so no longer exist anymore (presumably - who knows if there was extra money) if you were looking for a refund or something of that sort. At this point, pre-orders have purchased the prototype and regular buyers will back-subsidize the pre-order purchases, if that makes sense. It's a bit semantic, but that wasn't my intent. I misunderstood the root of your question. :P
also even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
Oh no, that's how I interpreted it as well. That $40 should be deducted from your final bill. What I was saying was that the funds have already been spent on the prototype, so no longer exist anymore (presumably - who knows if there was extra money) if you were looking for a refund or something of that sort. At this point, pre-orders have purchased the prototype and regular buyers will back-subsidize the pre-order purchases, if that makes sense. It's a bit semantic, but that wasn't my intent. I misunderstood the root of your question. :P
Ah okay no worries
Yeah I misread it somewhere that I had just personally bankrolled hubble's unicorn keyboard and that was it
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
You should buy the GEEK HACK keycaps I'm selling, then. demik used to do them for a while, back a few years ago. But I just recently decided to pick up that torch he dropped.Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
You should start a GB, id totally buy whatever the fudge you might sell.
You should buy the GEEK HACK keycaps I'm selling, then. demik used to do them for a while, back a few years ago. But I just recently decided to pick up that torch he dropped.Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
You should start a GB, id totally buy whatever the fudge you might sell.
You should buy the GEEK HACK keycaps I'm selling, then. demik used to do them for a while, back a few years ago. But I just recently decided to pick up that torch he dropped.Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
You should start a GB, id totally buy whatever the fudge you might sell.
great advertise, will join! :D
You should buy the GEEK HACK keycaps I'm selling, then. demik used to do them for a while, back a few years ago. But I just recently decided to pick up that torch he dropped.Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
You should start a GB, id totally buy whatever the fudge you might sell.
great advertise, will join! :D
I will throw in a $50 up-front fee to help you fund a prototype for yourself.
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
proof that they won't **** it up
I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
What if you don't want to do that. I certainly would not want to waste my time selling plates rather than working on a project that I love and want to see come to fruition. If you don't think they're trustworthy then don't give them your damn money, it's as simple as that.
Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
What if you don't want to do that. I certainly would not want to waste my time selling plates rather than working on a project that I love and want to see come to fruition. If you don't think they're trustworthy then don't give them your damn money, it's as simple as that.
Since I have insider information here, I will just say this: it really is good to start your group buy life off with something small, just to get a feel for how it is. Then you will know if you want to scale up from there. You can see how long it has taken me to get the JD45 off the ground. That's because I don't want a repeat of the GH60 fiasco or others. I've been doing other group buys because I like doing them, and experience has taught me what to expect.
Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
What if you don't want to do that. I certainly would not want to waste my time selling plates rather than working on a project that I love and want to see come to fruition. If you don't think they're trustworthy then don't give them your damn money, it's as simple as that.
Since I have insider information here, I will just say this: it really is good to start your group buy life off with something small, just to get a feel for how it is. Then you will know if you want to scale up from there. You can see how long it has taken me to get the JD45 off the ground. That's because I don't want a repeat of the GH60 fiasco or others. I've been doing other group buys because I like doing them, and experience has taught me what to expect.
If you want to know more, I suggest you look at the gh60 thread in the group buys section. It's pretty darn bad...Exactly.I think the point is that you should really start small with stuff like this and work up to the more ambitious peojects/gbs.I think age should be irrelevant but proof that they won't **** it up/past experience would be great.How can you prove something that hasn't happened yet?
It's something that I don't entirely disagree with, but being a younger person myself (I'm 20 now, or so they tell me) I totally see why someone would want to start with a project like this.
Start selling plates before a $400+ full kb kit
What if you don't want to do that. I certainly would not want to waste my time selling plates rather than working on a project that I love and want to see come to fruition. If you don't think they're trustworthy then don't give them your damn money, it's as simple as that.
Since I have insider information here, I will just say this: it really is good to start your group buy life off with something small, just to get a feel for how it is. Then you will know if you want to scale up from there. You can see how long it has taken me to get the JD45 off the ground. That's because I don't want a repeat of the GH60 fiasco or others. I've been doing other group buys because I like doing them, and experience has taught me what to expect.
GH60 fiasco?
As of now it's more of Ninjadoc's guilt that keeps Mira alive.. Hubble took payments after the prototype was paid off that is not accounted for - seemingly everyone after the original 40 numbers - so that money is mia. As is, the board that will come out of here will be a result of ninjadoc's hard work.
Don't be made a high schooler got you guys to pay for him to have a custom keyboard. :P #sorrynotsorryalso even though it sounds like production is a far cry at the moment I really hope that our respective $40s go towards the full cost of the board
Your $40 went to funding the prototype.In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
Am I reading it wrong or did I always assume that paying the $40 up front went towards the purchase price?
I hate to say it but that wording seems pretty deliberate in meaning that $40 will be taken off the purchase price of the board
As of now it's more of Ninjadoc's guilt that keeps Mira alive.. Hubble took payments after the prototype was paid off that is not accounted for - seemingly everyone after the original 40 numbers - so that money is mia. As is, the board that will come out of here will be a result of ninjadoc's hard work.
Well it's sad that this went to ****.
So hubble just dropped of the face of the planet or what? :-\
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Nah, the most important thing he had would be the CAD files which Hubble has sent us.
The money is also important, but we will keep the costs down since we are looking to make zero profit from this.
Just keep our fingers crossed that whatever mistakes we make won't cost us an arm and a leg.
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Nah, the most important thing he had would be the CAD files which Hubble has sent us.
The money is also important, but we will keep the costs down since we are looking to make zero profit from this.
Just keep our fingers crossed that whatever mistakes we make won't cost us an arm and a leg.
Just to clarify, he designed, prototyped and then gave the files for you to look at different shops?
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Nah, the most important thing he had would be the CAD files which Hubble has sent us.
The money is also important, but we will keep the costs down since we are looking to make zero profit from this.
Just keep our fingers crossed that whatever mistakes we make won't cost us an arm and a leg.
Just to clarify, he designed, prototyped and then gave the files for you to look at different shops?
Yup pretty much. We got the prototypes, got excited, got the notsoexciting quotes, and then had to back off from that shop.
Since Hubble got occupied with other things during that time span we pretty much got carte blanche to continue this project.
Really, the only thing hindering us aside from slow communication with shops is the fact that we can't modify the OP.
Thank you for your hard work, frostytoast and ninjadoc. I have no expertise in getting keyboard parts made, but hopefully you can get more GH support as the project moves along. Maybe JD can offer some advice, *wink* :)
I think one of the problems with getting the case parts made abroad would be lack of quality control checks between manufacturing steps on the part of group buy organizers. Unless one of the organizers happens to live in the country of manufacture and is able to visit the shops and monitor progress. Otherwise I personally don't see a problem with doing at least part of the manufacturing abroad. I just remember that the US-made Skeldon case was Very expensive, and it was a simple wedge design, not as intricate as Mira. Lower number of orders though, if I remember correctly, so that might have been why.
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Nah, the most important thing he had would be the CAD files which Hubble has sent us.
The money is also important, but we will keep the costs down since we are looking to make zero profit from this.
Just keep our fingers crossed that whatever mistakes we make won't cost us an arm and a leg.
Just to clarify, he designed, prototyped and then gave the files for you to look at different shops?
Yup pretty much. We got the prototypes, got excited, got the notsoexciting quotes, and then had to back off from that shop.
Since Hubble got occupied with other things during that time span we pretty much got carte blanche to continue this project.
Really, the only thing hindering us aside from slow communication with shops is the fact that we can't modify the OP.
Can't edit it due to not having a CAD designer or that the file is unmoddable?
Sounds good though, my bad for taking him disappearing the wrong way. Thanks for your work.
P.S.: regarding the inability to modify the OP, please feel free to request any changes added to the OP, I'll be happy to help. Pretty sure the thread title needs the "group buy starting soon" part removed, for example.
Thank you for your hard work, frostytoast and ninjadoc. I have no expertise in getting keyboard parts made, but hopefully you can get more GH support as the project moves along. Maybe JD can offer some advice, *wink* :)
I think one of the problems with getting the case parts made abroad would be lack of quality control checks between manufacturing steps on the part of group buy organizers. Unless one of the organizers happens to live in the country of manufacture and is able to visit the shops and monitor progress. Otherwise I personally don't see a problem with doing at least part of the manufacturing abroad. I just remember that the US-made Skeldon case was Very expensive, and it was a simple wedge design, not as intricate as Mira. Lower number of orders though, if I remember correctly, so that might have been why.
Yeah it would be great if we could visit shops ourselves, but it would be difficult since ninjadoc lives in an expensive country; and, well, my country (Canada) doesn't have anything (plus shipping from here would be insane)
Hubble being gone doesn't change the fact that this will happen.
Ah, I thought this made a big difference.
Nah, the most important thing he had would be the CAD files which Hubble has sent us.
The money is also important, but we will keep the costs down since we are looking to make zero profit from this.
Just keep our fingers crossed that whatever mistakes we make won't cost us an arm and a leg.
Just to clarify, he designed, prototyped and then gave the files for you to look at different shops?
Yup pretty much. We got the prototypes, got excited, got the notsoexciting quotes, and then had to back off from that shop.
Since Hubble got occupied with other things during that time span we pretty much got carte blanche to continue this project.
Really, the only thing hindering us aside from slow communication with shops is the fact that we can't modify the OP.
Can't edit it due to not having a CAD designer or that the file is unmoddable?
Sounds good though, my bad for taking him disappearing the wrong way. Thanks for your work.
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
hell, or at least keep people updated. it's not that hard at all
at least frosty and ninja are doing a good job of that now
Is this Group Buy still open? What is the $40 for?
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
hell, or at least keep people updated. it's not that hard at all
at least frosty and ninja are doing a good job of that now
Even if he tells us he can't do it, it's fine. We already knew the $40 was non-refundable; won't be hard for Hubbs to tell us that he just has too much on his plate and will pass the project on. No need to disappear.
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
hell, or at least keep people updated. it's not that hard at all
at least frosty and ninja are doing a good job of that now
Even if he tells us he can't do it, it's fine. We already knew the $40 was non-refundable; won't be hard for Hubbs to tell us that he just has too much on his plate and will pass the project on. No need to disappear.
Yeah, at this point he needs to just man up and tell it as it is.
If he cant finish it, fine. If he is passing it off to Ninja or Frosty (should they want to attempt to finish this) even better.
But just leaving it in a state of limbo is not cool. Doesn't take much time at all to give an update, and people that already invested their money in this deserve something in return.
Need to start asking for ages and 5 year plans before starting group buys. The number of "something came up" bull**** excuses is getting ridiculous.
hell, or at least keep people updated. it's not that hard at all
at least frosty and ninja are doing a good job of that now
Even if he tells us he can't do it, it's fine. We already knew the $40 was non-refundable; won't be hard for Hubbs to tell us that he just has too much on his plate and will pass the project on. No need to disappear.
Yeah, at this point he needs to just man up and tell it as it is.
If he cant finish it, fine. If he is passing it off to Ninja or Frosty (should they want to attempt to finish this) even better.
But just leaving it in a state of limbo is not cool. Doesn't take much time at all to give an update, and people that already invested their money in this deserve something in return.
Isn't notice from ninja and Frosty that they are taking it over sufficient in this regard? Sure, for the principle of "owning up to it" I agree with you, but we all know what's going on here.
Thankfully this is progressing and we all know what's happening, but that's thanks to other people who were involved. If not, and Hubbs continued to stay quiet, we all would've been in the dark still.
That, and I feel like people who go MIA eventually leave the community. Hubbs seemed like he really liked keyboards, so I'm afraid this situation will deter him from being active. If he communicated the complications and stated he decided to pass on the project, he could still be quite the active member.
I was more just saying it for his benefit. He just says what's up be it school needs to be first, too expensive to make, etc, and move on. Nobody can blame a person for that! Owning up to what is going on would be very accepted in think, much more so than just disappearing entirely. And yeah, what frosty and ninja are doing is fantastic, but an official blessing to finish/continue the project would be nice, just to acknowledge all of the work they have put into it.Thankfully this is progressing and we all know what's happening, but that's thanks to other people who were involved. If not, and Hubbs continued to stay quiet, we all would've been in the dark still.
That, and I feel like people who go MIA eventually leave the community. Hubbs seemed like he really liked keyboards, so I'm afraid this situation will deter him from being active. If he communicated the complications and stated he decided to pass on the project, he could still be quite the active member.
There's no doubt that he should have done that, but I interpreted LSB's comment to imply that he thinks Hubble should still do so, even given the recent updates - that just seems silly to me.
And yeah, what frosty and ninja are doing is fantastic, but an official blessing to finish/continue the project would be nice, just to acknowledge all of the work they have put into it.
It's my current understanding that we are on the search for a better shop, or if it's necessary a connection to Korea (trust me we don't want that to happen any more than you do) but it may be the only way to get it to work.
It's my current understanding that we are on the search for a better shop, or if it's necessary a connection to Korea (trust me we don't want that to happen any more than you do) but it may be the only way to get it to work.
Trust me, I don't think many people care whether it's made here or abroad.
It's my current understanding that we are on the search for a better shop, or if it's necessary a connection to Korea (trust me we don't want that to happen any more than you do) but it may be the only way to get it to work.
Trust me, I don't think many people care whether it's made here or abroad.
Agreed. I care way more about price. I'd rather save $100+ and have it made overseas. What was that quote for US manufacturer a few pages back? It was like $700.
Personally, I prefer the board to be <$400.
I've recommended my machinist both in PM and several posts above. They're based in Vancouver, do excellent work, and I think they charge a reasonable price.Please do :)
If a machinist is really the limiting factor here, contact them, and at least get a quote.
Our economy is so **** we do need the business.
As a bonus maybe our **** dollar will lower the prices further xD
Our economy is so **** we do need the business.
As a bonus maybe our **** dollar will lower the prices further xD
If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Thank you for your hard work, frostytoast and ninjadoc. I have no expertise in getting keyboard parts made, but hopefully you can get more GH support as the project moves along. Maybe JD can offer some advice, *wink* :)
I think one of the problems with getting the case parts made abroad would be lack of quality control checks between manufacturing steps on the part of group buy organizers. Unless one of the organizers happens to live in the country of manufacture and is able to visit the shops and monitor progress. Otherwise I personally don't see a problem with doing at least part of the manufacturing abroad. I just remember that the US-made Skeldon case was Very expensive, and it was a simple wedge design, not as intricate as Mira. Lower number of orders though, if I remember correctly, so that might have been why.
Yeah it would be great if we could visit shops ourselves, but it would be difficult since ninjadoc lives in an expensive country; and, well, my country (Canada) doesn't have anything (plus shipping from here would be insane)
The machinist I utilize is Vancouver based, and they do excellent work. See examples:
http://www.liquid-ion.com/img/ourgoal.jpg
http://www.liquid-ion.com/img/pd_productshot_1.jpg
I'm glad this project won't be slowed down by Hubble leaving. That's awesome to hear.
If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
I thought that this spreadsheet had been posted at some point previously within this thread.If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
I appreciate you making this spreadsheet available but I must admit to finding it interesting that I've never seen it. Obviously I downloaded a copy.
I thought that this spreadsheet had been posted at some point previously within this thread.If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
I appreciate you making this spreadsheet available but I must admit to finding it interesting that I've never seen it. Obviously I downloaded a copy.
Ah :) anyway, I'm just glad I'm on it :)I thought that this spreadsheet had been posted at some point previously within this thread.If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
I appreciate you making this spreadsheet available but I must admit to finding it interesting that I've never seen it. Obviously I downloaded a copy.
I know Frosty straightened out this list but I've not seen the list he has worked on.
If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
I'll admit that the OP does need to change a lot.
The fact that people haven't seen the spreadsheet (even ninjadoc :-[ ) is a clear example of that.
Once we really kick it off with the next major update we'll do an overhaul of the OP.
If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
wanna trade numbers?
If you guys plan to update the OP, can you please link to the most recent list with users/numbers? Current link dates to 08/15 and quite some things have happened since :)
Cheers,
Here's the spreadsheet to follow.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
That looks nice, thanks for your hard work! I think the logo above the arrow keys needs a bit of reworking. Specifically, at a glance it looks like "O'MIRA", which is a bit weird. Maybe some separation between the two circles and the MIRA word would make it look less like an O and apostrophe?
$600 is out of my budget range, sadly.
Rip cad.
I will probably have to dip into education funds for this. ****.
Rip cad.
I will probably have to dip into education funds for this. ****.
care to elaborate?
Rip cad.
I will probably have to dip into education funds for this. ****.
care to elaborate?
With the Canadian dollar being so low I will have to spend upwards of $900CAD to get a hold of this board.
I personally won't have that much to spend on a board with all of my other expenses trying to fit in.
Due to the high cost that comes with producing the board we also cannot make any profit whatsoever.
Not even ninjadoc can get anything from this, let alone myself.
I'm fine with the current logo design, personally. I know what it stands for, and that's the most important part anyway.
Are those cost-cutting options already included into the $600 estimate or are you saying that the changes you've made and will still make will cut costs still more toward the $400 mark?
I've been silently following this thread for a while and hoping the GB comes to fruition. Judging from the latest batch of pictures it seems this will become a reality sooner rather than later :thumb: Thanks ninjadoc (and whoever else helping out behind the scenes).I'm fine with the current logo design, personally. I know what it stands for, and that's the most important part anyway.
Likewise. It doesn't look like O'Mira to me at all.Are those cost-cutting options already included into the $600 estimate or are you saying that the changes you've made and will still make will cut costs still more toward the $400 mark?
I'd like to know too. I think what he means is the latest version already has all the cost-cutting options (which we can see in the photos) and yet it still costs $600.
I have no personal investment in the Mira, but reading these updates is really interesting. Awesome work ninjadoc.Thank you.
So I pre-ordered, and paid a $40 deposit, not in the top 57, Sooooooo.... Am I in?
Enjoy reading this book. My goal is to get this as close to $400 as possible. I'm going to check with a moderator to get two polls - one on cost, the other on anodizing colors. Hopefully I can get this done in the next two days.
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
The poll is asking what you would pay for a kit.
That would include the housing as well as pcb with presoldered controllers and SMD components.
Stabilisers, switches, etc are not included.
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
The poll is asking what you would pay for a kit.
That would include the housing as well as pcb with presoldered controllers and SMD components.
Stabilisers, switches, etc are not included.
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
Normally when you buy a "keyboard kit" in a groupbuy it includes case, PCB. and plate. This includes screws, the 3 M feet if used and nothing else. I've asked the person who agreed to sell us PCB's about getting SMD components presoldered at the factory and they agreed to do so. All you will have to do is install stabilizers, switches, and LED's. As for gold plated stabilizers I will have to check with Zeal.
At this point this is going to be a one man show checking, sorting, and packing all this so I have no interest in dealing with switches too. Now if you want to come to Cincinnati, stay here until everything is checked, packaged, and shipped I will be happy to give you switches for the Mira. That is not a blanket offer by the way! :)
Thanks
If it's gonna be a one man show please let me know if I can help out at all
Don't know if this sounds silly, but would it perhaps be for the best to remove the Mira engraving from the front? If there are brass weights in the bottom that have the logo, the fact that it is a Mira is still evident, but it would eliminate the issue of it looking like "O' Mira", and I don't really know if a lot of people even like having logos on the front of their keyboards (I personally don't). It would also help lower the price (less machine time).I'd be fine with this! I don't really have an opinion either way, buy it does seem like a good way to bring costs down.
So, I'm not sure how attached everybody is to the front logo, but this could be an option.
Don't know if this sounds silly, but would it perhaps be for the best to remove the Mira engraving from the front?I'm fine with this if only because I'll never be able to unsee O'MIRA.
i want to give you an accurate response, but i still have questions, man.
are the prices in the poll "kit" prices - like, including pcb, any miscellaneous electrical parts, stabilizers, zealios, etc? or is this just price for the case and mid-plate?
if this is not going to be a "kit," it's still not clear to me what pcbs are supported, or where we can source them from
The poll is asking what you would pay for a kit.
That would include the housing as well as pcb with presoldered controllers and SMD components.
Stabilisers, switches, etc are not included.
Looks like a lot more at $400 than I expected to see, especially since you worded it as the maximum you'd be willing to pay.
Perhaps send a PM to the people that pre-ordered but haven't voted yet?
Don't know if this sounds silly, but would it perhaps be for the best to remove the Mira engraving from the front?I'm fine with this if only because I'll never be able to unsee O'MIRA.
No logo on the front would be an improvement. I hope we can poll this, I think it would be far classier to be logo free on the front.
Has to reduce machining costs too, right?
Could do two disks at the present location and the word "Mira" on the rear, like for LZ-GH.
Could do two disks at the present location and the word "Mira" on the rear, like for LZ-GH.
I am not currently committed to this buy, but am very interested, money permitting. What Photo said here is my suggestion as well, for whatever it's worth as a current bystander.
Could do two disks at the present location and the word "Mira" on the rear, like for LZ-GH.
I am not currently committed to this buy, but am very interested, money permitting. What Photo said here is my suggestion as well, for whatever it's worth as a current bystander.
A rear engraving would add too much to the cost for the exact reason why we changed the USB hole; we would have to flip the case on its side during the milling process.
Could do two disks at the present location and the word "Mira" on the rear, like for LZ-GH.
I am not currently committed to this buy, but am very interested, money permitting. What Photo said here is my suggestion as well, for whatever it's worth as a current bystander.
A rear engraving would add too much to the cost for the exact reason why we changed the USB hole; we would have to flip the case on its side during the milling process.
But it would look cool. ;D
Forget I said anything about the engraving then! Definitely nice to have one.
What does this mean?Zealios on the other hand was not specified in the initial op, only teased that Zeal was contributing to the project with his then new project of his own (Zealios). Whether that was gonna be provided for the project or if it was another purchase/package-with-extra-price was not completely clarified; I assumed it was a separate purchase on top of the Mira in the same package (another price concern for me).
In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
MoreFrom what I understood. The first 57 Pre Order will get the Gold Stabs as that was part of the "perks" of being in the first 57.QuoteWhat does this mean?Zealios on the other hand was not specified in the initial op, only teased that Zeal was contributing to the project with his then new project of his own (Zealios). Whether that was gonna be provided for the project or if it was another purchase/package-with-extra-price was not completely clarified; I assumed it was a separate purchase on top of the Mira in the same package (another price concern for me).
In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:
You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers :p :))
I think the Mira with all the cost-cutting changes still looks amazing. Personally if the weight for the board will not be visible to the eye the engraving on it is optional to me. I do not know how much that will cut the costs though, I doubt much at all.
Perhaps a list could be made of all the aesthetic parts that will increase or cut costs and let the users (and more importantly the first 57 Pre-buyers) decide whether it is worth cutting that cost or retaining the aesthetic appeal or the aesthetic define of the Mira.
I live in Vancouver and I lament the state of the Canadian dollar. I dread the state of my wallet and bank account the day Mira comes to fruition. T_T
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Hubble despite all the mishaps, Thank you for bringing us this project! You have done something impactful in your life, for us with great intentions, which is something I have yet to do. XD
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Huge thanks to FrostyToast, Ninjadoc, ZealPC, and all other uncredited people behind the scenes. This project would not get to where it's at without all of you!
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Amazing how this board and eventual GB is turning out!However, as for me, the older I get in this hobby the more I realize I don't need more than one MX TKL. So, even though I fought for my number, I'm now offering my spot.
PM me if you're interested. I know I'll kick myself once these are assembled in people's homes.
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Amazing how this board and eventual GB is turning out!However, as for me, the older I get in this hobby the more I realize I don't need more than one MX TKL. So, even though I fought for my number, I'm now offering my spot.
PM me if you're interested. I know I'll kick myself once these are assembled in people's homes.
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My spot #27 has been claimed by patchworks. Not sure what all needs to be done to modify the spreadsheet, or who's in charge of it now.
Amazing how this board and eventual GB is turning out!However, as for me, the older I get in this hobby the more I realize I don't need more than one MX TKL. So, even though I fought for my number, I'm now offering my spot.
PM me if you're interested. I know I'll kick myself once these are assembled in people's homes.
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My spot #27 has been claimed by patchworks. Not sure what all needs to be done to modify the spreadsheet, or who's in charge of it now.
Awesome I can make that change!
Sorry to see you leave us but I'm glad that some other lucky soul can be a part of this buy!
I voted for 450. I think that's a good price for a kit like this, but much over 500 and I'd probably pass. I've paid 450 plus shipping for kits like this before, and feel that's a fair price. Even if every part had to be made in China to get it at 450, I'm fine with that.
I went for $500. I paid $470 for the LZ-RV, so I'm willing to pay something similar for this board.I voted for 450. I think that's a good price for a kit like this, but much over 500 and I'd probably pass. I've paid 450 plus shipping for kits like this before, and feel that's a fair price. Even if every part had to be made in China to get it at 450, I'm fine with that.
I voted for $450 as well, I think that is more than fair. I still don't really see myself letting an extra $25-$50 stop me from getting this board either but anything past $450 for me is where it starts to hurt the wallet. :))
i think we should try for $400, but it seems like a split majority is willing to pay $450. i voted $400, but if we don't hit that price point, it doesnt mean i'm pulling out. we've come to far to stop now
Originally the estimate was around $400. That doesn't include switches and whatever other small things like LEDs, stickers, whatever. At least a number of people, including myself, joined and planned for approximately that budget. That seems to be the budget we should be going for, at least for those dozens of us who've made the initial investment. If it's more, then you could make a poll about how many can afford the higher price. That'd be better rather than making this poll open to anyone who's not even seriously considered joining yet. Can make a google docs type form poll with a submission, so those who've joined already can enter with their user name and e-mail address and all that.I have number 47 reserved, and I have no issues with a $500 price point for this board.
I voted for 450. I think that's a good price for a kit like this, but much over 500 and I'd probably pass. I've paid 450 plus shipping for kits like this before, and feel that's a fair price. Even if every part had to be made in China to get it at 450, I'm fine with that.
Originally the estimate was around $400. That doesn't include switches and whatever other small things like LEDs, stickers, whatever. At least a number of people, including myself, joined and planned for approximately that budget. That seems to be the budget we should be going for, at least for those dozens of us who've made the initial investment. If it's more, then you could make a poll about how many can afford the higher price. That'd be better rather than making this poll open to anyone who's not even seriously considered joining yet. Can make a google docs type form poll with a submission, so those who've joined already can enter with their user name and e-mail address and all that.
Did the $40 deposit everyone pitched in go toward getting the samples?
Ideally you would want to have the cases and plates milled by the same shop. Then, at the same or another shop, have it all media blasted and anodized in the same batches, so the colors will be sure to match. That also cuts down on the number of moves, and shipping costs, opportunities for damage, etc. But I'm sure you know this already.
But yes, any time you organize a group buy things will always be more expensive than initially planned, due to things like shipping things between locations, PayPal fees on every transaction, and such.
MostDid the $40 deposit everyone pitched in go toward getting the samples?
Yes
Is the limitation with finding an appropriate shop due to keeping production within CA? Would it be possible to find someone state side to act as a shipping proxy and perhaps reduce cost if there would be more options in terms of production locations?
How much interest would theoretically be necessary to make this GB a reality?
How much interest would theoretically be necessary to make this GB a reality?
How much interest would theoretically be necessary to make this GB a reality?
I think that this is beyond IC at this point, unless the folks that already had a slot in the original first go, are not the only ones capable of purchasing one. Which at this point it seems like it may be....
If I am wrong, I will take one :)
I think people are being a bit stingy with their money when it comes to the voting. I don't see why people are choosing $400 as their max limit when there have been plenty of other kits that have gone for more. To the people that voted, you wouldn't even fork over an extra $50 to get the keyboard? So anything over $400 and you're just calling it quits.
I'm still in! I'd like to confirm that I am still spot number 47. Is that still the case?
Thanks for linking that again! I've been in so many group buys recently that I can't keep track of who has posted spreadsheets and who hasn't...I'm still in! I'd like to confirm that I am still spot number 47. Is that still the case?
You are, just check the spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzd7Zo5xQsonnvf7k5IL3_7KPkBGX6CVzUBtos9Jw6M/edit#gid=0
Any word on when official GB and total # of units will be made? I really want to get in on this.
Any word on when official GB and total # of units will be made? I really want to get in on this.
Those last two prototypes are in the mail.
A prototype of the new design is being made now.
If it is good with everyone and the quoteis good I will see what the final price comes out to.
I will post it and see how many it is acceptable to.
Cost is the major factor and this can't keep dragging on.
That is not fair to anyone.
With so many interesting boards hitting the market I'm tempted to start an organ brokering service. Once you've come around to selling that unwanted kidney, give me a shout... I'm sure I can find a buyer.
I want everyone to know this is made in jest, do not send me spare body parts!
I'd definitely be in if someone isn't up for whatever the finalized price is. Unless there's a possibility of extras just without numbered plates.
The original goal was for there to be 100 boards made, no more, no less. The only difference between the first 57 and all of the others was that they would have gold stabilizers.I'd definitely be in if someone isn't up for whatever the finalized price is. Unless there's a possibility of extras just without numbered plates.
There almost certainly will be. The more boards they can get made the lower the price per unit can be. I think the original goal was to sell 100 or more with the first 57 having numbers.
The original goal was for there to be 100 boards made, no more, no less. The only difference between the first 57 and all of the others was that they would have gold stabilizers.I'd definitely be in if someone isn't up for whatever the finalized price is. Unless there's a possibility of extras just without numbered plates.
There almost certainly will be. The more boards they can get made the lower the price per unit can be. I think the original goal was to sell 100 or more with the first 57 having numbers.
Making more than 100 may not be the best move, since that just adds a lot more work to sorting and inspecting the boards.
Very excited to see pics, just to clarify it will have winkey and winkeyless right? Or was winkeyless cut with other cost saving changes?
I have a question about that.Very excited to see pics, just to clarify it will have winkey and winkeyless right? Or was winkeyless cut with other cost saving changes?
both
that's what david meant by his question, how did you interpret it?. anyway that's one thing you don't have to worry about, winkey blockers are grotesque and no serious gb will forgo the wkl option just because you can put blockers in the winkey slots.Lol, I meant top housing. That's the one thing about the LZ-RV (of which I am also a part) that I wish I could change.
(also it's top housing* not plate)
davidIt's Davis zzz
I thought I did this earlier - didn't.
Here are links to the two prototypes
Winkey - http://imgur.com/a/FJMka
Winkeyless - http://imgur.com/a/VxiCW
Enjoy. No blockers. Same plate will be used for both.
I thought I did this earlier - didn't.
Here are links to the two prototypes
Winkey - http://imgur.com/a/FJMka
Winkeyless - http://imgur.com/a/VxiCW
Enjoy. No blockers. Same plate will be used for both.
that pcb looks really well done. who designed it?I believe the original plan was for a winkeyless pcb. Not sure if that's still the case though.
that pcb looks really well done. who designed it?
that pcb looks really well done. who designed it?Leeku has agreed to supply the board. Currently the board will have all SMD soldering done except the RGB lights on the bottom. Initially the board was too tall for a diffuser, the latest rendition should be better. We will have to see.
It is the L3alphas TKL pcb made by Leeku
If bright blue is a color available like there was in the early renders then I will certainly want one of these assuming spots are even open.
I thought I did this earlier - didn't.
Here are links to the two prototypes
Winkey - http://imgur.com/a/FJMka
Winkeyless - http://imgur.com/a/VxiCW
Enjoy. No blockers. Same plate will be used for both.
This is exciting.Colors haven't been announced yet, that I'm aware of.
Will the production plate be red or has that not been decided? I hope for a neutral color.
I generally dislike people putting their logo in the outter shell, unless its a cool one...Good thing it's a cool one then.
If anyone wants to let go of their pre-order now I am more than willing to pick up the deposit and spot :)
Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionYes PLEASE!!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
Would love to see this color in at least a plate option :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
Ever since I saw this color on the Matrix 8XV1 plate, i've been dying for it.Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionYes PLEASE!!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
Minty!Ever since I saw this color on the Matrix 8XV1 plate, i've been dying for it.Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionYes PLEASE!!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
Hmm, goes well with Chocolatier SA tooShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/z8lkaft.png)
Would love to see this color in at least a plate option :pThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
I like the look of that thing!Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/5ec4e7e464f7defa79d7a61f052ddc55.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/bb240842ba3d3cc57565e2c3c299de32.jpg)
Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
*Matrix 8XV1.0
Keyboard available here:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=526185434032&scm=1007.10115.20357.100200300000000&pvid=36b2b9c6-c732-4b56-a5c8-6c89df502eee
Also, creator's blog:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/26/2015-12-21-matrix-8xv1-0%E6%A0%B7%E5%93%81%E5%9B%BE-87%E9%85%8D%E5%88%97/2
And the fullsize version:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/27/2015-12-21-matrix-10xv1-0%E5%90%88%E4%BD%93
Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
*Matrix 8XV1.0
Keyboard available here:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=526185434032&scm=1007.10115.20357.100200300000000&pvid=36b2b9c6-c732-4b56-a5c8-6c89df502eee
Also, creator's blog:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/26/2015-12-21-matrix-8xv1-0%E6%A0%B7%E5%93%81%E5%9B%BE-87%E9%85%8D%E5%88%97/2
And the fullsize version:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/27/2015-12-21-matrix-10xv1-0%E5%90%88%E4%BD%93
Man, I really want that full-size version. Do they even make more? I've seen only one person have it.
Sorry, the keyboard in the pic is real and it called Martix 8x.If you're gonna do a render, could you maybe do that plate and the blue color of the colored case renders? I think that would look epic, but I'd have to see it :)Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionThis could turn out beautiful!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4f3ca63a6a27b85fd6b08e03261bb7b.jpg)
*Matrix 8XV1.0
Keyboard available here:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=526185434032&scm=1007.10115.20357.100200300000000&pvid=36b2b9c6-c732-4b56-a5c8-6c89df502eee
Also, creator's blog:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/26/2015-12-21-matrix-8xv1-0%E6%A0%B7%E5%93%81%E5%9B%BE-87%E9%85%8D%E5%88%97/2
And the fullsize version:
http://www.matrix-lab.cn/topic/27/2015-12-21-matrix-10xv1-0%E5%90%88%E4%BD%93
Man, I really want that full-size version. Do they even make more? I've seen only one person have it.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=525143116944&ns=1&abbucket=7#detail
2800 RMB, so $433
"Winkeyless will not utilize blockers."
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Okay good. Thought that was already decided so it was a bit confusing as to what exactly it meant."Winkeyless will not utilize blockers."
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Meaning the top half of the case will actually have built in blockers for the WKL layout as opposed to all the tops being Winkey and using blockers for the WKL layout.
Ever since I saw this color on the Matrix 8XV1 plate, i've been dying for it.Would love to see this color in at least a plate optionYes PLEASE!!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wwWxABd.jpg)
Hmm, goes well with Chocolatier SA tooShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/z8lkaft.png)
so, "pewter" is like the dark grey, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/osbOzYkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/osbOzYkl.jpg)
And currently the most boring of colors, clear, black, and pewter are winning. I really hope to see one bright color available at the very least. It will be sad if only standard color options are available.
Perhaps this is a consequence of how the vote is done. The more standard color options are the most popular, and there are so many bright color options that the votes from people wanting a bright color are split too heavily.
Thanks for all the hard work ninjadoc!
EDIT: Perhaps have another vote following this one with the most unpopular colors removed to better calibrate what people want.
And currently the most boring of colors, clear, black, and pewter are winning. I really hope to see one bright color available at the very least. It will be sad if only standard color options are available.
Perhaps this is a consequence of how the vote is done. The more standard color options are the most popular, and there are so many bright color options that the votes from people wanting a bright color are split too heavily.
Thanks for all the hard work ninjadoc!
EDIT: Perhaps have another vote following this one with the most unpopular colors removed to better calibrate what people want.
Well clear, black, and pewter are the only decent looking choices from the base colors. We'll need to see some custom colors to vote on for more interesting choices.
Please note Laughatpain is taking over my spot on the preorders list.
Voted for the boring colours
Voted for the boring colours
Samesies. Kinda hard to spend $400+ on a color that you might like for a bit, and then want to change later. Black/Silver/Grey will always look good too me, so those colors seem like the obvious choice
It would be weird if the only options were crazy and unusual colours like gold, sky blue, and green.
Silver and black are absolutely necessary for any keyboard buy.
Get whatever crazy colours you want, but take out those essentials and you'll annoy a lot more people than you will please.
That's exactly why the more I think about it, the more I realize that I'm going to want the clear color. (Looks SO good in the OP)It would be weird if the only options were crazy and unusual colours like gold, sky blue, and green.
Silver and black are absolutely necessary for any keyboard buy.
Get whatever crazy colours you want, but take out those essentials and you'll annoy a lot more people than you will please.
I think the "boring colors" are also more in line with the space theme.
"Winkeyless will not utilize blockers."
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I only joined the first 57 in hopes there would be interesting colors...I'm definitely out if there's no unique colors. Atm, none of the standard colors would compel me to vote for them.
As much as I see why someone would not be comfortable spending so much on a potentially non-neutral color, I think there are and always will be other opportunities to get these neutral colored boards possibly even for cheaper.
That's exactly why the more I think about it, the more I realize that I'm going to want the clear color. (Looks SO good in the OP)It would be weird if the only options were crazy and unusual colours like gold, sky blue, and green.
Silver and black are absolutely necessary for any keyboard buy.
Get whatever crazy colours you want, but take out those essentials and you'll annoy a lot more people than you will please.
I think the "boring colors" are also more in line with the space theme.
I only joined the first 57 in hopes there would be interesting colors...I'm definitely out if there's no unique colors. Atm, none of the standard colors would compel me to vote for them.
As much as I see why someone would not be comfortable spending so much on a potentially non-neutral color, I think there are and always will be other opportunities to get these neutral colored boards possibly even for cheaper.
Okay, I thought it was already known (as like you said the proto had built in blockers) that it was going to have built in blockers so it confused me. Thanks :thumb:"Winkeyless will not utilize blockers."
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Someone asked in the past if the winkeyless version was the same case and required blockers like one of the KMAC's did. I thought it was a silly question given the prototypes didn't utilize irremovable blockers but I thought I would address it.
I only joined the first 57 in hopes there would be interesting colors...I'm definitely out if there's no unique colors. Atm, none of the standard colors would compel me to vote for them.
As much as I see why someone would not be comfortable spending so much on a potentially non-neutral color, I think there are and always will be other opportunities to get these neutral colored boards possibly even for cheaper.
The same process is utilized for the anodizing whether it is a neutral color or a custom color. It requires the same amount of labor and the same time. The neutral colors can not be had cheaper than I can get then. The custom colors cost because you have to mix the dye, test it, get it approved, and only anodize a small quantity. That is more money in dye, labor, and time and you have a vat of dye that you have to throw away, clean the vat, and use again. Once again time equals money.
so, "pewter" is like the dark grey, right?
I only joined the first 57 in hopes there would be interesting colors...I'm definitely out if there's no unique colors. Atm, none of the standard colors would compel me to vote for them.
As much as I see why someone would not be comfortable spending so much on a potentially non-neutral color, I think there are and always will be other opportunities to get these neutral colored boards possibly even for cheaper.
The same process is utilized for the anodizing whether it is a neutral color or a custom color. It requires the same amount of labor and the same time. The neutral colors can not be had cheaper than I can get then. The custom colors cost because you have to mix the dye, test it, get it approved, and only anodize a small quantity. That is more money in dye, labor, and time and you have a vat of dye that you have to throw away, clean the vat, and use again. Once again time equals money.
I think he was saying that it might be cheaper for someone to find a different keyboard in a neutral color, not anodizing costs more one way or the other. Like why vote for a black Mira when there are many other black TKL's out there already. The only problem is that I have been looking for a black custom well made TKL for awhile now and haven't found one for sale, I'd like to know where all of these people are finding this "over abundance of custom TKL's" out there.
I assumed that people interested in this board had bought into the theme as well with the NASA font, wavy sides from the chevron, first 57 numbers, Mira binary star, etc. It seems I was wrong. I mean, there are also plenty of opportunities to get custom boards that don't have a specific theme. You can go crazy with all the colors you want there.
My spot is up for grabs. Message here if you want it and do not pm me. I'll pm people in the order of posting.
My spot is up for grabs. Message here if you want it and do not pm me. I'll pm people in the order of posting.
I'll pick up the spot. This project seems to be in very good hands now.
My spot is up for grabs, just asking for the $40 down payment. I have spot #31.
SixtyLife was the first to respond, he now has my spot #31. :thumb:thanks Steezus :)
Mira updateI wonder if there is anyway that norbauer would be able to help with machining or finding a machine shop. He's got an IC thread for a CNC Anodized Aluminum case for CM Novatouch and Rapid-i (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=80317.0) that looks really promising.
The machine shop that did the first two prototypes and that is doing a third still hasn't given me an estimate. The owner was out of the country but I'm not sure how interested he is in producing the Mira.
Another shop has expressed interest in producing the Mira and if everything works out their price will bring us close to the $400 mark. They will do finishing and anodizing so pur color choice may be limited. These shops are in another country so this is being done through an intermediary which limits my control of the process and the time frame.
Wow, hard to believe it's this difficult to find a machine shop and anodizer willing to work with us and stand by their work.
Wow, hard to believe it's this difficult to find a machine shop and anodizer willing to work with us and stand by their work.
I think it has a lot to do with the relatively small quantities. They probably are accustomed to dealing with larger manufacturers and customers that request MUCH LARGER quantities and amounts than keyboard hobbyists. When I contact machine shops for keyboard projects, I usually do not get a response. What we request are small potatoes compared to their bread and butter clientele.
SixtyLife was the first to respond, he now has my spot #31. :thumb:thanks Steezus :)
big fan of this proposed change where the back angle extends all the way out to the back edge:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vpupHvAl.png)
is this change still planned Ninjadoc? makes the design significantly cleaner imo. didn't see it in the 2 prototypes photos that you linked though, but I think you last mentioned another prototype was being built.
I'd like to sell my spot. I have too many other boards that are already on the way to keep holding out hope for this one...
I have spot #47. Please pm me if you want my spot!
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Awh, are all the spots gone?
I think only 50 spots were offered for the numbered spots during the IC and the other 50 would be offered in the GB but it's still stuck in IC.Awh, are all the spots gone?
I dont think so. There were a certain number of keyboards that a $40 prepay got you the initial offered numbered edition. But there were quite a few spots left for the other
Spot #47 is now ika's!
Pming Ninja and Frosty about the change!
might be looking to give up my spot, i think my number is #37PM'd about that spot
I have taken over his spot already. The last PM I received is that we are waiting on the acknowledgment of the swap.might be looking to give up my spot, i think my number is #37PM'd about that spot
Too late for anyone here but someone was selling a Mira over on /r/mechmarket and I thought some of you might want to check out the pictures at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4goud7/uscah_custom_tkl_w_paypal/
Too late for anyone here but someone was selling a Mira over on /r/mechmarket and I thought some of you might want to check out the pictures at least.That keyset really complimented the color of the board.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4goud7/uscah_custom_tkl_w_paypal/
prob gonna regret this, but passing on my spot #31.
$40 pp gift. PM if interested.
Mira update
Another shop has expressed interest in producing the Mira and if everything works out their price will bring us close to the $400 mark. They will do finishing and anodizing so pur color choice may be limited. These shops are in another country so this is being done through an intermediary which limits my control of the process and the time frame.
Too late for anyone here but someone was selling a Mira over on /r/mechmarket and I thought some of you might want to check out the pictures at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4goud7/uscah_custom_tkl_w_paypal/
Whoa, I didn't realize the protos were out in the wild. Cool stuff, thanks for linking.
Update - I hope to get a final render this week. After approval I will get it made. If it is a go I will get this going.
If all of the first 57 will let both I and Frosty whether they want winkey or winkeyless it would be appreciated. That way Zeal can make sure he has the gold plated stabs in stock.
I will get information on colors available this week so everyone can think about them.
At this point I do plan on opening up the orders and hopefully I can do it all the boards at once but it might have to be done in batches. If in batches I WILL NOT collect money for a second batch until I'm sure it can be done.
I will check on plates- stainless or aluminum and verify if aluminum plates will be anodized.
I will see what can be arranged for assembly..
Once I'm sure this is a go I will find out what the lead time for PCB's from Leeku will need to be. These should be presoldered except for the RGB LED's. Previously the Mira was too tall for a diffuser plate. We've lower it but I'm not sure if it is enough or not.
As for time frame - I wish it was yesterday.
I think that covers it. Keep your fingers crossed.
Update - I hope to get a final render this week. After approval I will get it made. If it is a go I will get this going.
If all of the first 57 will let both I and Frosty whether they want winkey or winkeyless it would be appreciated. That way Zeal can make sure he has the gold plated stabs in stock.
I will get information on colors available this week so everyone can think about them.
At this point I do plan on opening up the orders and hopefully I can do it all the boards at once but it might have to be done in batches. If in batches I WILL NOT collect money for a second batch until I'm sure it can be done.
I will check on plates- stainless or aluminum and verify if aluminum plates will be anodized.
I will see what can be arranged for assembly..
Once I'm sure this is a go I will find out what the lead time for PCB's from Leeku will need to be. These should be presoldered except for the RGB LED's. Previously the Mira was too tall for a diffuser plate. We've lower it but I'm not sure if it is enough or not.
As for time frame - I wish it was yesterday.
I think that covers it. Keep your fingers crossed.
Update - I hope to get a final render this week. After approval I will get it made. If it is a go I will get this going.
If all of the first 57 will let both I and Frosty whether they want winkey or winkeyless it would be appreciated. That way Zeal can make sure he has the gold plated stabs in stock.
I will get information on colors available this week so everyone can think about them.
At this point I do plan on opening up the orders and hopefully I can do it all the boards at once but it might have to be done in batches. If in batches I WILL NOT collect money for a second batch until I'm sure it can be done.
I will check on plates- stainless or aluminum and verify if aluminum plates will be anodized.
I will see what can be arranged for assembly..
Once I'm sure this is a go I will find out what the lead time for PCB's from Leeku will need to be. These should be presoldered except for the RGB LED's. Previously the Mira was too tall for a diffuser plate. We've lower it but I'm not sure if it is enough or not.
As for time frame - I wish it was yesterday.
I think that covers it. Keep your fingers crossed.
Update - I hope to get a final render this week. After approval I will get it made. If it is a go I will get this going.
If all of the first 57 will let both I and Frosty whether they want winkey or winkeyless it would be appreciated. That way Zeal can make sure he has the gold plated stabs in stock.
I will get information on colors available this week so everyone can think about them.
At this point I do plan on opening up the orders and hopefully I can do it all the boards at once but it might have to be done in batches. If in batches I WILL NOT collect money for a second batch until I'm sure it can be done.
I will check on plates- stainless or aluminum and verify if aluminum plates will be anodized.
I will see what can be arranged for assembly..
Once I'm sure this is a go I will find out what the lead time for PCB's from Leeku will need to be. These should be presoldered except for the RGB LED's. Previously the Mira was too tall for a diffuser plate. We've lower it but I'm not sure if it is enough or not.
As for time frame - I wish it was yesterday.
I think that covers it. Keep your fingers crossed.
Update - I hope to get a final render this week. After approval I will get it made. If it is a go I will get this going.
If all of the first 57 will let both I and Frosty whether they want winkey or winkeyless it would be appreciated. That way Zeal can make sure he has the gold plated stabs in stock.
I will get information on colors available this week so everyone can think about them.
At this point I do plan on opening up the orders and hopefully I can do it all the boards at once but it might have to be done in batches. If in batches I WILL NOT collect money for a second batch until I'm sure it can be done.
I will check on plates- stainless or aluminum and verify if aluminum plates will be anodized.
I will see what can be arranged for assembly..
Once I'm sure this is a go I will find out what the lead time for PCB's from Leeku will need to be. These should be presoldered except for the RGB LED's. Previously the Mira was too tall for a diffuser plate. We've lower it but I'm not sure if it is enough or not.
As for time frame - I wish it was yesterday.
I think that covers it. Keep your fingers crossed.
thanks for the update! waiting on a more official response to how to notify you and frosty about wk/wkl. Is PMing both of you enough?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
Just spitballing here... If we assume there are function layers then we can also assume it's fully programmable. So you've got plenty of options.
1. Fn on Right Ctrl
2. Fn on Scroll Lock
3. Fn on Space Bar with "SpaceFN" firmware?
4. ? ? ?
5. Profit
What did you have in mind for your Fn layers? I'd probably put LED controls on mine, but that's about it. /shrug
I would love to get a 1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5 winkeyless bottom row, but i first a couple questions;
1. Are we still using blockers for winkeyless?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
3. stabs will be provided with the kit? Or available to purchase with the kit?
I would love to get a 1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5 winkeyless bottom row, but i first a couple questions;
1. Are we still using blockers for winkeyless?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
3. stabs will be provided with the kit? Or available to purchase with the kit?
1. It has been said several times over that the case will be using built in blockers for winkeyless. I don't know where the rumour that it was otherwise started.
2. Leeku PCBs use JigOn which allow for a function layer accessible by any assigned key and multiple alternative layers that you can switch between while still having the function layer underneath.
3. Unless you were in the initial 57 orders you will be sourcing your own stabs.
I would love to get a 1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5 winkeyless bottom row, but i first a couple questions;
1. Are we still using blockers for winkeyless?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
3. stabs will be provided with the kit? Or available to purchase with the kit?
1. It has been said several times over that the case will be using built in blockers for winkeyless. I don't know where the rumour that it was otherwise started.
2. Leeku PCBs use JigOn which allow for a function layer accessible by any assigned key and multiple alternative layers that you can switch between while still having the function layer underneath.
3. Unless you were in the initial 57 orders you will be sourcing your own stabs.
I would love to get a 1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5 winkeyless bottom row, but i first a couple questions;
1. Are we still using blockers for winkeyless?
2. How can I access function layers without a typical "function" key?
3. stabs will be provided with the kit? Or available to purchase with the kit?
1. It has been said several times over that the case will be using built in blockers for winkeyless. I don't know where the rumour that it was otherwise started.
2. Leeku PCBs use JigOn which allow for a function layer accessible by any assigned key and multiple alternative layers that you can switch between while still having the function layer underneath.
3. Unless you were in the initial 57 orders you will be sourcing your own stabs.
Thanks for the replies! I am in the initial 57, so what does that mean for stabilizers?
It is fine if things are different, but the OP said that everyone would be receiving stabs (first 57 gold, rest would be normal stabs)
Still waiting for the final render and quote from the shop. CAD guy has been busy - should be this week.
I have sent out messages to the initial 57 people with a form.
If you have not received a message but believe you are in the first 57 please message me.
Those with spot #9, 41, 52, and 56 do not have their GH username entered in the form and I need those people to contact me ASAP.
Let me know if any slot owner wants to pass theirs by
Will there still be a second round of orders or has that already passed?
Will there still be a second round of orders or has that already passed?
I'm not sure if it will be a second round or if it will be opened up and capped at a specific number. My plan now is to open it up for orders depending on the factory's willingness to produce the board.
I recall reading about plans for an acrylic diffuser layer - is this still in the works/an option?
is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
yes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Have you thought about putting the logo on the back, near the USB cutout, for a cleaner top design?
Have you thought about putting the logo on the back, near the USB cutout, for a cleaner top design? Either configuration will be okay though, as the logo is good enough to stand out, and be a part of the design itself.Yes this has been mentioned in the thread before.
I recall reading about plans for an acrylic diffuser layer - is this still in the works/an option?
I thought that was for the 27 keyboard
Any reason the binary symbol couldn't go here?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0Cu3Mr.png)
yes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Have you thought about putting the logo on the back, near the USB cutout, for a cleaner top design? Either configuration will be okay though, as the logo is good enough to stand out, and be a part of the design itself.Yes this has been mentioned in the thread before.
Adding any cuts on the back of the board would mean an additional flipping of the piece during the milling process. This would increase the cost by a stupid amount and not be worth it.I recall reading about plans for an acrylic diffuser layer - is this still in the works/an option?
I thought that was for the 27 keyboard
No. There were talks about it since the reduced height of the keyboard might make it possible to accommodate such a feature.
Still nothing concrete however.Any reason the binary symbol couldn't go here?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0Cu3Mr.png)
Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.
Have you thought about putting the logo on the back, near the USB cutout, for a cleaner top design? Either configuration will be okay though, as the logo is good enough to stand out, and be a part of the design itself.Yes this has been mentioned in the thread before.
Adding any cuts on the back of the board would mean an additional flipping of the piece during the milling process. This would increase the cost by a stupid amount and not be worth it.I recall reading about plans for an acrylic diffuser layer - is this still in the works/an option?
I thought that was for the 27 keyboard
No. There were talks about it since the reduced height of the keyboard might make it possible to accommodate such a feature.
Still nothing concrete however.Any reason the binary symbol couldn't go here?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o0Cu3Mr.png)
Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.
I would definitely prefer no acrylic cutout. I've seen a couple boards with this and I'd much rather have this one be different
Moreyes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.
If someone want to get rid of his spot, PM me :)
Get in line bros. Check the stamps. Likely it will just opened with a limit.If someone want to get rid of his spot, PM me :)
me first
Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.
Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.
Uh, OK... Care to explain?
This board has lost nearly all of its identity in the pursuit of making it cheap enough that folks will want to buy it. I'm surprised people are still lining up to get one -- aside from the MIRA logo it's just another Korean TKL. No engraved weight. No cutout. A neutered logo. No custom motherboard. Limited color options. It's a shadow of the original idea, and you're ****ting on an attempt to bring some of the uniqueness back?
Whatever bro.
:cool:Because it would look ugly. So ugly. Please.
Uh, OK... Care to explain?
This board has lost nearly all of its identity in the pursuit of making it cheap enough that folks will want to buy it. I'm surprised people are still lining up to get one -- aside from the MIRA logo it's just another Korean TKL. No engraved weight. No cutout. A neutered logo. No custom motherboard. Limited color options. It's a shadow of the original idea, and you're ****ting on an attempt to bring some of the uniqueness back?
Whatever bro.
It's a terrible design decision that would be aesthetically displeasing and add clutter that we tried to remove with the new Mira logo.
Moreyes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.
+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique
Moreyes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.
+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique
Honestly I liked the weight too. If you would like to pay for the weight for everyone to have it I will be happy to put it back in the design. A simple plate can be purchased in the correct thickness, cut out, and placed in the case bottom. The original design required a a piece of metal, machined out, and then placed in the case. Seems simple but not really. A machinist can describe the process better but it requires time and time is money.
(http://i.imgur.com/NcJhT8u.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/NcJhT8u.jpg)
Think about how many people would not purchase this keyboard at each price point in the survey earlier.
32% said the maximum they would pay is $400
25% said $450
39% said they would pay $475 or more
So, who do I keep happy? Do I try to get this made so everyone who wants one can afford it or do I make it more exclusive and charge $475 or more?
The other option is make a Mira base and a Mira deluxe. If I do that another group will be upset because their Mira is not as nice.
Currently my response is I will wait on the estimate and then take in consideration everyone's concerns and see how much leeway I have in making changes. As for the binary symbol on the top - that will not happen. Also my CAD person is going to get irritated about changes and me pestering them so I have to know what I want before I start requesting changes.
Moreyes.is the case still designed to accommodate a weight insert? If so, I could definitely see a small spin-off group buy for just weights after this run is complete. I would be willing to head up this effort.
personally, i see no need for the binary stars on the back of the case - especially if they're just going to be etched. as limitz suggested, i think we should show them somewhere more visible on the case, and near the USB plug is a good choice for location.
thanks again for all your efforts, ninja
There is a stainless steel weight in the bottom of the case.
so there is a weight included, it will just not poke through the back of the case through the binary cutout? ie, there will not be a binary cutout?
Shucks, I really liked the cutout of the prototype / being able to see the weight.
+1 for this. imo, this is what used to make this keyboard unique
Honestly I liked the weight too. If you would like to pay for the weight for everyone to have it I will be happy to put it back in the design. A simple plate can be purchased in the correct thickness, cut out, and placed in the case bottom. The original design required a a piece of metal, machined out, and then placed in the case. Seems simple but not really. A machinist can describe the process better but it requires time and time is money.
(http://i.imgur.com/NcJhT8u.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/NcJhT8u.jpg)
Think about how many people would not purchase this keyboard at each price point in the survey earlier.
32% said the maximum they would pay is $400
25% said $450
39% said they would pay $475 or more
So, who do I keep happy? Do I try to get this made so everyone who wants one can afford it or do I make it more exclusive and charge $475 or more?
The other option is make a Mira base and a Mira deluxe. If I do that another group will be upset because their Mira is not as nice.
Currently my response is I will wait on the estimate and then take in consideration everyone's concerns and see how much leeway I have in making changes. As for the binary symbol on the top - that will not happen. Also my CAD person is going to get irritated about changes and me pestering them so I have to know what I want before I start requesting changes.
Just to give eveyone something to look at.
(http://i.imgur.com/Eya7spNl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Eya7spNl.jpg)
I haven't forgotten you, I'm at the mercy of machine shops. If it was up to everyone in this thread would be typing on a Mira but....it isn't up to me.
I noticed that the usb cut out has shifted from the left side to the middle right. Was there a change in PCB?
Can we get a better pic of the side profile? It's kind of hard to tell what the "curve" looks like, I had to do a double-take. Otherwise it looks great!
I'm interested in picking up one of these
Also, where can I find more info on the PCB? I saw a reply saying that it was the L3alphas TKL pcb being used, but a google search doesn't really bring anything up
I assume if we already paid a deposit you don't need our in, but just in case I'm still in.
Just confirming that I am in :) I took Bucky's spot a couple months back.
I should still have spot 18.
I'm in and I'm #38
I'm still in - esp. if theanyday would trade me his #32 for my #25 ;)
In since the beginning... still here :thumb:
I'm still in.
What about an option with the double-circle engraving at the front instead of the word "MIRA"? And it doesn't need to be full disk indents--could just be rounded circle line indents. Would be a more identifying feature of the design as opposed to just the name, which is a lot like Tgr. Wouldn't be centered over the ^ arrow key, but rather centered on the arrow cluster. Kind of like this quick Paint sketch (of course, better scaled and properly centered to look good):
(Attachment Link)
That would be more in line with a symbolic Astronomy theme as opposed to a name (my niece's name is Mirrah).
still here. #27
FrostyToast, NinjaDoc -
thanks so much for seeing this through! #5 here, excited to still be on board.
15 here. Still interested.
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Still here at #26
still in
still here. #27
#29 check
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Number 31 here :p
#21 and still interested :thumb:
Wish I had gotten in on the 57, would have been 100% in. But don't worry, still at 88% lol
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Forgive me for being out of the loop, but is the case compatible with other PCBs? With the location of the USB port, I'm thinking A87 and NerD TKL, but would like some confirmation
Wish I had gotten in on the 57, would have been 100% in. But don't worry, still at 88% lol
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As we are moving towards the beginning of the end, we would like to see how many people are interested in snagging a spot for the Mira buy.
It would be nice to compile a list of all those interested so that we can try to get in as many people as possible.
I will also go back in the thread to collect the names of those who have previously expressed their interest.
Replying here does not necessarily guarantee you a spot, but we will do everything that we can to accommodate as much as possible.
Pm'd ^
Pm'd ^
damnit :-X
I have one of the original 57 pre-order spots (I believe my number is 28, which should be verifiable in a spreadsheet that was posted some pages back). I would like to sell it to whoever wants it. I see multiple posts of people requesting to buy a spot but I have no idea who was first so I guess first come first serve? PM me.
Cheers.
Guys, when it is anything going to happen?The red one is so expansive ..
I only see the prototypes sold one by one on reddit:
today https://redd.it/50gbjv
and a little earlier https://redd.it/4goud7
What's happening? :(
I haven't been updating due to the issues of lack of communication from the person helping me with the last prototype that is now being sold as described in my previous post.I am truly impressed and appreciative of you rescuing this project.
There is a second issue - I've had several medical problems over the last year or so and next week I have two surgeries followed by up to three weeks of in patient rehab. I suspect you will hear little or nothing from me during that time. Needless to say the work up preceding this has also led to me not commenting on the status of the Mira.
I haven't been updating due to the issues of lack of communication from the person helping me with the last prototype that is now being sold as described in my previous post.
There is a second issue - I've had several medical problems over the last year or so and next week I have two surgeries followed by up to three weeks of in patient rehab. I suspect you will hear little or nothing from me during that time. Needless to say the work up preceding this has also led to me not commenting on the status of the Mira.
I would love to pair this with my newly acquired Godspeed SA set, but 400 USD... that's a lot of money... will monitor this to look for a final price, but at this price point, a little too much.
I too would like to buy a spot. Contact me via pm, I check often.
Stopped back here today. Can't thank Ninjadoc enough for all the great work he has done on this project both on my behalf and for the most part on his own. Rock on! :thumb:
Stopped back here today. Can't thank Ninjadoc enough for all the great work he has done on this project both on my behalf and for the most part on his own. Rock on! :thumb:
Might want to edit the OP. The current "approved" design looks nothing like the original photos. It's a little misleading, especially for newcomers.
Hate airing my own issues but I feel the group needs an explanation of the delay - after 16 hours of surgery followed my multiple complications I'm back briefly. A tumor was found in my chest and I have another surgery scheduled for next week. Unsure about the recovery on that.Great, as i see you totally back to original design ideas?
Personal stuff aside - the Mira is progressing. There are a few errors on the design which will be corrected. Once cost, packing, and colors are decided I hope to pull this off in the next two months - FINALLY. Leelu's board is planned to be used but the NERD will work and Yuk Tsi has designed a board that should fit. Leeku's board is the one that will be offered but the others may be bought on your own.
all that said - here some prototypes that address all of your complaints ( I think)
http://imgur.com/a/Mj1Yr
As I said, a few modifications need to be made.
Cheers
ninjadoc
Get well soon. :thumb:
If I liked the TKL layout I'd be all over this board, looks amazing.
I don't know about 65% yet, but I'll give it a try with the JC65, so I'm not opposed to it. I really love my Duck Black Bird and Sentraq TK78 layouts though (yeah, really strange layouts). I'd love to see another CP layout board (like the LZ-CP, CPSQ, TX-CP) sometimes as I missed/had to skip all of them until now. An easy way to get me interested in a board is offering a split Spacebar layout, I love uncommon stuff.Get well soon. :thumb:
If I liked the TKL layout I'd be all over this board, looks amazing.
Out of curiosity what layouts are you interested in? Mini, 65%, keypad?
Never know what might appear if I get this one to finally launch.
Hate airing my own issues but I feel the group needs an explanation of the delay - after 16 hours of surgery followed my multiple complications I'm back briefly. A tumor was found in my chest and I have another surgery scheduled for next week. Unsure about the recovery on that.
Personal stuff aside - the Mira is progressing. There are a few errors on the design which will be corrected. Once cost, packing, and colors are decided I hope to pull this off in the next two months - FINALLY. Leelu's board is planned to be used but the NERD will work and Yuk Tsi has designed a board that should fit. Leeku's board is the one that will be offered but the others may be bought on your own.
all that said - here some prototypes that address all of your complaints ( I think)
http://imgur.com/a/Mj1Yr
As I said, a few modifications need to be made.
Cheers
ninjadoc
Looking good
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That latest prototype is looking **** hot
LMAO, this thread is 1.75 years old, and y'all STILL think this will ever happen.
LMAO, this thread is 1.75 years old, and y'all STILL think this will ever happen.
LMAO, this thread is 1.75 years old, and y'all STILL think this will ever happen.
LMAO, this thread is 1.75 years old, and y'all STILL think this will ever happen.
LMAO, this thread is 1.75 years old, and y'all STILL think this will ever happen.
Please tell me know how this comment was constructive in any way, then let me know what happens if you research the history of this thread at all.
I'm new for mira I need some quick answers cause this thread have too much page I can't read them all.
1.why this IC take a long time(almost 2 year).
2.if I didn't get a spot from this IC, is it possible to get any spot later when in became a groupbuy?
3.if all spots're only for depositors that's mean this thread is half IC half GB right?
4.if there're some normal spots in the future, when this the estimated time for entering a normal spots, not depositor spots.
Thanks you.
Well ****. I get the initial deposit numbers were more of a supportive thing than an engraving but to say that now not only is the guaranteed spot moot but that there is still a risk (even if small) you will lose that deposit money because you did not sell your spot...that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
What do you mean by this? Your deposit means if this is made you will get a MIRA if you pay for it. You will only lose your deposit if the Mira isn't produced by me. The guaranteed spot isn't moot and I don't understand what I said to make you think it is.
The numbers are a problem. I don't know if I can get then cut into the weight via CAD, stamped, or engraved. I will figure something out.
Hell, the whole problem has always been the price because it needs to be affordable for the x amount of unlimited possible people who may or may not buy it yet still appeal in design for these same mystery people. Why pander to this group at the cost of production time, design changes, risk of complete shut down, overall money lost, increased shipping logistics, and ultimately stress if it is not guaranteed funding towards a successful group buy? No wonder spots traded so much.
I will address the last part of this first. Spots are traded because of lack of interest, fear of the product not being produced, or cost constraints.
Price has always been an issue. I have to ask if you have read the whole thread? The American shop wanted $350 a piece for a MOQ 0f 200 units, unanodized, unfinished, without PCB. Do the math on that one.
Pandering toward a particular group of people - a survey of price was done. roughly there were two cutoffs - $400 -$425 about 40 people, $500 + about 30 - 40 people. Look at the custom boards sold as kits now. Do you see any $500 kits in a group buy? Those exist but I suspect you haven't been invited into them.
"the cost of production time, design changes, risk of complete shut down, overall money lost, increased shipping logistics, and ultimately stress if it is not guaranteed funding towards a successful group buy?"
I have called and visited multiple shops. I have been delayed over 6 months by someone who implied production in June. American facilities in general don't want a small batch like this. In Korea makers have friends in shops who can slide in 20 - 50 units. I have a Lin that only 20 were made. I have an LZ mini that I've only seen one of that someone claimed was common overseas but couldn't produce a picture. Production time is usually 90 days, design changes are needed to cut down costs - the back lip on the original Mira added 2 hours of machine time - per board.Money lost - hmm- I haven't counted the money I've spent so don't worry about money lost.
I'm not blaming anyone - I truly appreciate the efforts from the very beginning until now for this and I love the latest prototype. But all the sometimes questionable waiting and roller coaster rides I've had to experience in this "hobby" have yet to show it's worth the wait.
So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So he left the project after using everyones deposit to build a proto. Then he sold it. What the ****
There was no promise of delivery for the original $40 in the OP; the text below said that basically anything could happen and the costs could be high, and we'd be under no obligation to continue with the group buy. Looking at the text of the OP, I personally read it as "help me make a prototype, and you'll get a numbered case if it does happen". I basically considered it as a donation the whole time.The constant trading of places mean that a lot of current holders of the places are unaware of this. I imagine this was overlooked a lot though.
As far as numbering or whatever custom text goes, dos that really require custom plans for every case at the time of machining? Why not just do plain engraving on the weights in roughly the same spot after everything else is done?Just to weigh (ha) in here, weight engravings that are different in any way must be a different file. I have 40 numbered weights - 10 CEs, and 30 FEs, and the other design, so my manufacturer is expecting 41 different weight files (effectively 41 different weights).
yep. built the proto, sold it and went unheard from for a while. ninja picked it back up and smoothed things out. i still have a bitter taste in my mouth over the whole thing. really have to hold my tongue when i see him drop in here. the gall.
edit - a word
So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So he left the project after using everyones deposit to build a proto. Then he sold it. What the ****
yup. this also happened around the time of ivan's treachery. double bummer.
despite all the ****ery, i am still interested to see this board made, and i am very grateful that ninja is leading the way.
So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So he left the project after using everyones deposit to build a proto. Then he sold it. What the ****
yup. this also happened around the time of ivan's treachery. double bummer.
despite all the ****ery, i am still interested to see this board made, and i am very grateful that ninja is leading the way.
I haven't been playing close attention to the boards for a while, what happened with Ivan?
So wait, he used the 40 usd deposit from everyone to build the proto and he sold it?! And then left?Reverse 'leaving' and 'selling', but yes.
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So he left the project after using everyones deposit to build a proto. Then he sold it. What the ****
yup. this also happened around the time of ivan's treachery. double bummer.
despite all the ****ery, i am still interested to see this board made, and i am very grateful that ninja is leading the way.
I haven't been playing close attention to the boards for a while, what happened with Ivan?
Dipped out while running a couple of groupbuys. If I remember correctly he made off with 60k
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
Well, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
Have it made in Mexico before the wall is up :))
Well, in this case I just want to get a great keyboard, I dream about for a long time. I'm Russian, space in our culture and history occupies a special place. Here I am really looking forward to GMK Yuri, which will be made in Germany ;), dedicated to the great Russian astronaut. And the combination of this keyboard and a set of keys would have given the International Space Station edition))))))ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
Well, in this case I just want to get a great keyboard, I dream about for a long time. I'm Russian, space in our culture and history occupies a special place. Here I am really looking forward to GMK Yuri, which will be made in Germany ;), dedicated to the great Russian astronaut. And the combination of this keyboard and a set of keys would have given the International Space Station edition))))))ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I believe in ninjadoc, the man clearly outstanding perseverance and courage that despite all the problems, carries this burden of responsibility. Get well ninjadoc, and make NASA great again :thumb:Well, in this case I just want to get a great keyboard, I dream about for a long time. I'm Russian, space in our culture and history occupies a special place. Here I am really looking forward to GMK Yuri, which will be made in Germany ;), dedicated to the great Russian astronaut. And the combination of this keyboard and a set of keys would have given the International Space Station edition))))))ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
understandable, but 'Merica
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
Moreyeah that's everyone's argument, but this is the Mira, this is NASA, this is not blasphemyninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
Moreyeah that's everyone's argument, but this is the Mira, this is NASA, this is not blasphemyninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
And as an American, I still don't care if it's not made in the States.
Well, in this case I just want to get a great keyboard, I dream about for a long time. I'm Russian, space in our culture and history occupies a special place. Here I am really looking forward to GMK Yuri, which will be made in Germany ;), dedicated to the great Russian astronaut. And the combination of this keyboard and a set of keys would have given the International Space Station edition))))))
Moreyeah that's everyone's argument, but this is the Mira, this is NASA, this is not blasphemyninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
And as an American, I still don't care if it's not made in the States.
pretty sad. I won't buy it if it's made elsewhere
still sad the way you see outside as better. hopefully it'll change
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you're american for sure going at me 1v1. not even up to either of us
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you're american for sure going at me 1v1. not even up to either of us
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you're american for sure going at me 1v1. not even up to either of us
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His argument is sound, it's not a 1v1 attack as you choose to see it.
I think i could help numbering the weights. Lmk.
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Moreyeah that's everyone's argument, but this is the Mira, this is NASA, this is not blasphemyninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
And as an American, I still don't care if it's not made in the States.
pretty sad. I won't buy it if it's made elsewhere
Just let me know where you want the deposit sent. Glad to see all your hard work come to fruition
I'm confused as to the details of the first 57. Did you mean to copy-paste some of the beginning post regarding the $40 deposit for the first 57 spots?
Just let me know where you want the deposit sent. Glad to see all your hard work come to fruition
I don't expect a deposit for anything and don't send one somewhere else. When the group buy goes active, I will bill you for the full cost of the board. When I receive the board, pack it, and get the information to ship it to your home I will bill you for the shipping. Once shipping is paid I would like to have it out in 48 hours if I can physically do so.
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
Also, is the diffuser mandatory like on the 27 or optional?
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
Hyperbole much, and a bit ironic considering NASA are using Russian rockets to get in and out of the International Space Station.
The fact that it's designed in the US and "Made in China" is probably the most American thing about the board.
Ninja, i am always happy to read your updates and I am so thankful for the time and energy you have put into this project. thank you for keeping this going. the new prototypes look awesome! again, i am happy to see the O'Mira logo and binary plate are still incorporated. you have definitely rekindled the flame for this keyboard. I hope for a quick recovery for your health issues.
couple questions from your recent update -
- we can pick the numbers we want engraved on our plate? or the first 57 will have their numbers engraved? (ie. no picking numbers, but engraving is an option)
- if black, silver, and dark gray (titanium) are the only anodizing options, could we order a blank case to have anodized ourselves?
- i am hoping we will be able to buy multiple plates, can you confirm? i would probably do at least 2 builds for this; one with the Leeku board, and another with either Winkeyless or GON
I think many, if not all of us, would appreciate a word from Zeal to confirm that he is still willing to donate the gold stabilizers (maybe his new clear ones? ;)) and I personally would like an explanation from Dr Hubbel on the funds from the previous prototypes that he had made and sold. IMO, the proceeds from the sale of those boards should still go toward the production of this project.
I am willing to put down another $40 to secure manufacturing, but I feel that we are owed an explanation from Hubbel.
Ninja, i am always happy to read your updates and I am so thankful for the time and energy you have put into this project. thank you for keeping this going. the new prototypes look awesome! again, i am happy to see the O'Mira logo and binary plate are still incorporated. you have definitely rekindled the flame for this keyboard. I hope for a quick recovery for your health issues.
couple questions from your recent update -
- we can pick the numbers we want engraved on our plate? or the first 57 will have their numbers engraved? (ie. no picking numbers, but engraving is an option)
- if black, silver, and dark gray (titanium) are the only anodizing options, could we order a blank case to have anodized ourselves?
- i am hoping we will be able to buy multiple plates, can you confirm? i would probably do at least 2 builds for this; one with the Leeku board, and another with either Winkeyless or GON
I think many, if not all of us, would appreciate a word from Zeal to confirm that he is still willing to donate the gold stabilizers (maybe his new clear ones? ;)) and I personally would like an explanation from Dr Hubbel on the funds from the previous prototypes that he had made and sold. IMO, the proceeds from the sale of those boards should still go toward the production of this project.
I am willing to put down another $40 to secure manufacturing, but I feel that we are owed an explanation from Hubbel.
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To add some hype back into this project, I will personally be upgrading all 57 pre-orders to my new transparent screw-in gold plated stabs. I'm a man of my words and I don't back out. :thumb:
Ninja will just have to collect what spacebar wire the first 57 people wanted, and I can arrange accordingly.
$50 is for kit of 2 sets for 6.25u and 7u space barsQuote...
To add some hype back into this project, I will personally be upgrading all 57 pre-orders to my new transparent screw-in gold plated stabs. I'm a man of my words and I don't back out. :thumb:
Ninja will just have to collect what spacebar wire the first 57 people wanted, and I can arrange accordingly.
Well, if you were simply angry for losing $40, you can feel okay knowing you'll be getting these stabs which are worth $50. A $10 gain :)
If you're mad because Hubble got your money, then that's another story however.
Is the SE just going to be on a higher pricing tier, or are those reserved for those who pre-ordered their Miras or what?
In a call at the moment, so I apologize for sloppy writing, but I HAVE TO KNOW. :P
Also, is the diffuser mandatory like on the 27 or optional?
I'm confused as to the details of the first 57. Did you mean to copy-paste some of the beginning post regarding the $40 deposit for the first 57 spots?
There was no promise of delivery for the original $40 in the OP; the text below said that basically anything could happen and the costs could be high, and we'd be under no obligation to continue with the group buy. Looking at the text of the OP, I personally read it as "help me make a prototype, and you'll get a numbered case if it does happen". I basically considered it as a donation the whole time.The constant trading of places mean that a lot of current holders of the places are unaware of this. I imagine this was overlooked a lot though.As far as numbering or whatever custom text goes, dos that really require custom plans for every case at the time of machining? Why not just do plain engraving on the weights in roughly the same spot after everything else is done?Just to weigh (ha) in here, weight engravings that are different in any way must be a different file. I have 40 numbered weights - 10 CEs, and 30 FEs, and the other design, so my manufacturer is expecting 41 different weight files (effectively 41 different weights).
It does, and will take time, but I think it's time worth taking. However, this is entirely up to ninjadoc in what he does with that.
Ninjadoc has my full support in recovering this, it's just another case (I'm full of ****ty puns today) of waiting until its all set up and ready to go. There is an incredible amount of time, dedication, and commitment needed to do something like this, and with all of his health issues, it's even harder. Everyone should be making this as easy as we can for him, as I'm sure even if you aren't involved that you want to see this happen.
Also, is the diffuser mandatory like on the 27 or optional?
I would like to know this as well.
Pls make it be an optional, I'm not a fan of diffuser :'(
so, no more deposit right :(
Moreyeah that's everyone's argument, but this is the Mira, this is NASA, this is not blasphemyninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terribleWell, the guys from Revo, offer some magic quality of anodizing, maybe try to ask them to help to implement the project.ninjadoc should just get it manufactured in China, fast turnaround, much lower cost/margin, and everyone will be happy to finally get a Mira board.
i'm not sure anyone would care where it is made anymore, just as long as it gets made
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
But, i can only judge by the photos but looks very promising
in any other case maybe, but having a NASA inspired board made in China is just a slap in the face to America.
I'd want it made wherever they can offer the best quality to price ratio. As someone who works for a manufacturing company with sites worldwide, my opinion is that "Made in USA" is way over-****ing-rated.
And as an American, I still don't care if it's not made in the States.
pretty sad. I won't buy it if it's made elsewhere
@swimmingbird, it was more of a joke that others have been keeping alive...
and nice vocabulary.
Id rather wait for it then have it made in China. Chinese keyboard products are all terrible
pretty sad. I won't buy it if it's made elsewhere
still sad the way you see outside as better. hopefully it'll change
It seems with Hubble missing, the Chinese has decided they should make the keyboard themselves using the design.
And they are doing fast.
https://bbs.wstx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=700766&page=1&extra=#pid8857629Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231530zddx33khjnxjok5b.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231315ugppv6829hf5ah2v.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231332h00r8p0u8r60kd5d.jpg)
Maybe you can get your Mira with your pre-ordered-with-$$ No. there?
Price will be around 2800RMB(400$).
The Chinese prototype is under NinjaDoc's permision. Maybe dig in a bit and then comment?It seems with Hubble missing, the Chinese has decided they should make the keyboard themselves using the design.
And they are doing fast.
https://bbs.wstx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=700766&page=1&extra=#pid8857629Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231530zddx33khjnxjok5b.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231315ugppv6829hf5ah2v.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231332h00r8p0u8r60kd5d.jpg)
Maybe you can get your Mira with your pre-ordered-with-$$ No. there?
Price will be around 2800RMB(400$).
Do you mean prototype or groupbuy lol?
Anyway I'm not very interested in a IC that lasts this long nor digging anything. Goodluck boys. :thumb:The Chinese prototype is under NinjaDoc's permision. Maybe dig in a bit and then comment?It seems with Hubble missing, the Chinese has decided they should make the keyboard themselves using the design.
And they are doing fast.
https://bbs.wstx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=700766&page=1&extra=#pid8857629Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231530zddx33khjnxjok5b.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231315ugppv6829hf5ah2v.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231332h00r8p0u8r60kd5d.jpg)
Maybe you can get your Mira with your pre-ordered-with-$$ No. there?
Price will be around 2800RMB(400$).
Maybe it's a GB that's running in tandem with the Geekhack GB? Ninjadoc mentioned that there will be no order cap, so this might end up being a gigantic group buy.
It seems with Hubble missing, the Chinese has decided they should make the keyboard themselves using the design.
And they are doing fast.
https://bbs.wstx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=700766&page=1&extra=#pid8857629Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231530zddx33khjnxjok5b.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231315ugppv6829hf5ah2v.jpg)Show Image(https://f2cdn.wstx.com/data/attachment/forum/201612/12/231332h00r8p0u8r60kd5d.jpg)
Maybe you can get your Mira with your pre-ordered-with-$$ No. there?
Price will be around 2800RMB(400$).
Is the blueish color the grey/titanium? Looks amazing but I'm not too sure I have any key sets that would go with it.
Is the blueish color the grey/titanium? Looks amazing but I'm not too sure I have any key sets that would go with it.
Very nice color, I agree, especially if it's actually that light. Still hoping for some interesting light color other than silver. That blue goes with the space theme nicely.
Is there still a buy-in period for this thing? It's beautiful, and I totally want one.
Is there still a buy-in period for this thing? It's beautiful, and I totally want one.
There will be a GB for this, the stuff with the slots is for early/supporter/whaterveryouwanttocallit editions
The acrylic spacer/diffuser is a nice and unexpected touch.
The acrylic spacer/diffuser is a nice and unexpected touch.
Yes, this one is my design.
Unlike most designs with acrylic spacers that have the spacer sandwiched; the Mira top/bottom mating is grooved like the 356mini (keyingtogether). The acrylic diffuser is made to support the mating, and is therefore integral to the keyboard.
I hope to start the GB either next week or the first week in January. Production is predicted to be 12 - 16 weeks. boards will be shipped to me or to a proxy if there are several orders in another country. Shipping from the factory will be included in the base price, shipping from me or from the proxies to your home will be billed separately. It is MUCH cheaper to be shipped on bulk.
Boards will be made of Aluminum K701 which I've been assured by US machine shops will handle the rigors of being a computer keyboard.
Colors offer will be black, grey/titanium, silver, and either a blue/cyan or pink.
The top and bottom may be ordered in different colors.
Both brass and stainless steel weights will be offered. Stainless steel will cost more because of cost of both material and cost of machining. The brass weight will not be nickle coated due to cost.
Stainless steel and aluminum plates will be offered and due to cost stainless plates will cost more.
Aluminum plates can be anodized or left uncolored. Colors for the plates will include silver, grey, black, and maybe red. I would love gold to be an option but I'm not sure that is possible.
Shipping should be completed by the end of April IF all goes well.
Warning - I can't be held responsible for minor defects but I can get the factory to replace anything with major damage. I don't want an LZ-FE fiasco in shipping to occur.
If this goes well I have plans for a keypad and several other boards in mind and I'm discussing those with my CAD person at this time.
Pictures and colors will be posted shortly, comments that are useful and productive are appreciated and listened to.
Thank you for your patience.
ninjadoc
I asked a question earlier that got buried about how the edges of the case are shaped, in the prototype pictures it's not quite clear if they're rounded fillets or a sort of flat bezelled edge but they look quite rounded. Are they truly smoothly rounded edges? Ex:They're filleted like the corners. See a HHKB, just like that.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/v2frtQz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1GMvmuS.jpg)
Cheers, and thanks for all the work you've done keeping this project afloat.
It's happening!! will there be a limited list or will it be full fulfillment?
Show ImageI hope to start the GB either next week or the first week in January. Production is predicted to be 12 - 16 weeks. boards will be shipped to me or to a proxy if there are several orders in another country. Shipping from the factory will be included in the base price, shipping from me or from the proxies to your home will be billed separately. It is MUCH cheaper to be shipped on bulk.
Boards will be made of Aluminum K701 which I've been assured by US machine shops will handle the rigors of being a computer keyboard.
Colors offer will be black, grey/titanium, silver, and either a blue/cyan or pink.
The top and bottom may be ordered in different colors.
Both brass and stainless steel weights will be offered. Stainless steel will cost more because of cost of both material and cost of machining. The brass weight will not be nickle coated due to cost.
Stainless steel and aluminum plates will be offered and due to cost stainless plates will cost more.
Aluminum plates can be anodized or left uncolored. Colors for the plates will include silver, grey, black, and maybe red. I would love gold to be an option but I'm not sure that is possible.
Shipping should be completed by the end of April IF all goes well.
Warning - I can't be held responsible for minor defects but I can get the factory to replace anything with major damage. I don't want an LZ-FE fiasco in shipping to occur.
If this goes well I have plans for a keypad and several other boards in mind and I'm discussing those with my CAD person at this time.
Pictures and colors will be posted shortly, comments that are useful and productive are appreciated and listened to.
Thank you for your patience.
ninjadoc
I asked a question earlier that got buried about how the edges of the case are shaped, in the prototype pictures it's not quite clear if they're rounded fillets or a sort of flat bezelled edge but they look quite rounded. Are they truly smoothly rounded edges? Ex:More(http://i.imgur.com/v2frtQz.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/v2frtQz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1GMvmuS.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/1GMvmuS.jpg)
Cheers, and thanks for all the work you've done keeping this project afloat.
I like that lavender/blue color!! But maybe it's a possibly to have a rose/gold or champagne/pink, but I'll gladly accept whatever the final color choices happen to be :thumb: :thumb:
I like that lavender/blue color!! But maybe it's a possibly to have a rose/gold or champagne/pink, but I'll gladly accept whatever the final color choices happen to be :thumb: :thumb:
I tried on the rose gold/champagne pink - I really wanted that. I guess it is hard to anodize correctly - it was strongly discouraged.
Thanks for the support, skcheng :)
Ninja, what about something more simple, like basic pink, not champagne or rose gold kind? Not hot pink variety but a light pink of some sort.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg905696#msg905696
I don't mean to create any difficulties, just checking what's possible before the GB starts. Thanks again for your hard work and everyone else's who's been involved to make this design happen!
I hope to start the GB either next week or the first week in January. Production is predicted to be 12 - 16 weeks. boards will be shipped to me or to a proxy if there are several orders in another country. Shipping from the factory will be included in the base price, shipping from me or from the proxies to your home will be billed separately. It is MUCH cheaper to be shipped on bulk.
Boards will be made of Aluminum K701 which I've been assured by US machine shops will handle the rigors of being a computer keyboard.
Colors offer will be black, grey/titanium, silver, and either a blue/cyan or pink.
The top and bottom may be ordered in different colors.
Both brass and stainless steel weights will be offered. Stainless steel will cost more because of cost of both material and cost of machining. The brass weight will not be nickle coated due to cost.
Stainless steel and aluminum plates will be offered and due to cost stainless plates will cost more.
Aluminum plates can be anodized or left uncolored. Colors for the plates will include silver, grey, black, and maybe red. I would love gold to be an option but I'm not sure that is possible.
Shipping should be completed by the end of April IF all goes well.
Warning - I can't be held responsible for minor defects but I can get the factory to replace anything with major damage. I don't want an LZ-FE fiasco in shipping to occur.
If this goes well I have plans for a keypad and several other boards in mind and I'm discussing those with my CAD person at this time.
Pictures and colors will be posted shortly, comments that are useful and productive are appreciated and listened to.
Thank you for your patience.
ninjadoc
any updated word on pricing for this? Saw in the beginning it said from $350-400, just wondering if that was still the zone or if its raised/lowered?
Current status of the Mira
First – the current prototypes are here http://imgur.com/a/PWJdb (http://imgur.com/a/PWJdb)
It will have the famous O’Mira above the keypad and probably SE on the back by the USB hole.
The SE may or may not have a brass inlay.
The plan for now is to offer it with stainless steel weights but brass may be considered but will not be nickel coated and will be subject to corrosion.
I plan to offer the colors of black, silver, and grey/titanium but one or two other colors may be offered depending on the anodizing available.
II expect to be able to offer stainless steel and aluminum plates and the aluminum plates can be anodized. The plates do not allow switch top removal, that may change depending on time available to make that change.
I will only offer Leeku boards which will be soldered except for the bottom RGB LED’s. Leeku might be able to offer those soldered for $5 a board. The plates are designed to use both Leeku’s board and the NERD. YukTsi has been working on a TKL board that should fit and Winkeyless has a TKL board that I think will fit.
I can possibly offer stabilizers and even LED’s if there is enough interest.
Assuming everything works out and I can stay out of the hospital I want to start the group buy in January. I haven’t thought of the ordering period yet but as long as the manufacturer can handle the numbers I do not plan on capping out the amount sold. It is possible that it would have to go in two or more stages depending on the capability of myself and the manufacturer to move the product. The plan is for the Mira to be boxed similar to the TX-87 and the TX-CP which should prevent damage. The quality control will be done at the factory and I can’t be help responsible for minor defects but anything like the damages occurred by the LZ-FE will be taken care of.
Timeline:
1) Ordering or verifying ordering around 2 weeks
2) Payment two weeks for price of the board, shipping will be billed separately.
3) From time of payment to the manufacturer to my door should be about 12 weeks. I may try to have the boards sent directly to other countries that have several orders to a proxy to cut down cost. Canada would definitely be a country I would like to do this with.
4) Cost – has not been finalized due to all details haven’t been worked out but I would expect the cost to be between $400 - $425 + the shipping to your home. The shipping from the manufacturer will be included in the original cost and is less when shipped in bulk.
Now being honest, I'm going to mention the fly in the ointment:
(Quoting from the original post by DrHubblePhD in the beginning of this thread - I am not asking for donations, money, or a deposit. I'm simply quoting what was initially said about the deposit. I will give a more coherent edit tomorrow.): "In order to produce a prototype for the Mira and secure a production run in the future we need to put money down with the CNC company we have chosen. Instead of asking for donations from a few people I think it would be better that we offer some benefits to everyone on GeekHack who chooses to help produce the Mira!
What it costs: $40 down towards the full purchase of the Mira
What you get in return:"
- You reserve your spot in the first 57 units that will include gold stabs
- The opportunity to specify which number you would like engraved on your custom center weight (more on this below). Non-pre orders will receive their number in order of purchase, i.e. no say in the matter.
- Priority for the limited number of boards that will be offered with full assembly
- Pre-orders will ship first regardless of location and the total volume of the full production run
- A thank you note from me in the mail with some custom stickers
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That was quoted from the beginning of the thread. I'm not requesting anything.
I don't know how much money I've put into this, I refuse to count up the money or the hours. The numbering on the first 57 will be done and as far as I know Zeal is donating the gold stabilizers. I cannot donate however much has been put down for the Mira as a deposit. I can try to give you a good board at the best price I can give. I don't expect to make money out of this I just want to see the board completed.
My plan now is to charge everyone the same for the board. If there is an issue or complaint - which I can think of many - go ahead and PM me unless you think it is useful to the community then post it in the thread.
If the group buy is successful I have several other keyboards in the planning/CAD phase and I promise I won't post them until I know they can be produced.
I hope to start the GB either next week or the first week in January. Production is predicted to be 12 - 16 weeks. boards will be shipped to me or to a proxy if there are several orders in another country. Shipping from the factory will be included in the base price, shipping from me or from the proxies to your home will be billed separately. It is MUCH cheaper to be shipped on bulk.
Boards will be made of Aluminum K701 which I've been assured by US machine shops will handle the rigors of being a computer keyboard.
Colors offer will be black, grey/titanium, silver, and either a blue/cyan or pink.
The top and bottom may be ordered in different colors.
Both brass and stainless steel weights will be offered. Stainless steel will cost more because of cost of both material and cost of machining. The brass weight will not be nickle coated due to cost.
Stainless steel and aluminum plates will be offered and due to cost stainless plates will cost more.
Aluminum plates can be anodized or left uncolored. Colors for the plates will include silver, grey, black, and maybe red. I would love gold to be an option but I'm not sure that is possible.
Shipping should be completed by the end of April IF all goes well.
Warning - I can't be held responsible for minor defects but I can get the factory to replace anything with major damage. I don't want an LZ-FE fiasco in shipping to occur.
If this goes well I have plans for a keypad and several other boards in mind and I'm discussing those with my CAD person at this time.
Pictures and colors will be posted shortly, comments that are useful and productive are appreciated and listened to.
Thank you for your patience.
ninjadoc
Been waiting on this to fire for a long long time, but sadly I dont think I will have the funds if it starts this month :(
Been waiting on this to fire for a long long time, but sadly I dont think I will have the funds if it starts this month :(
See if they will accept dabs as payment.
Been waiting on this to fire for a long long time, but sadly I dont think I will have the funds if it starts this month :(
See if they will accept dabs as payment.
I'd pay double.
Been waiting on this to fire for a long long time, but sadly I dont think I will have the funds if it starts this month :(
See if they will accept dabs as payment.
I'd pay double.
I double-dab dare you.
Just joined GB for zealios switch and gold transparent stabilizer from Zeal. Only need a Mira case to make my very first custom kb. :cool:
Once I get agreement from the manufacturer I will begin the GB.
Colors offered: silver, black, grey, blue/cyan, pink
Plates – aluminum, stainless steel
Aluminum plates will be offered in silver, black, grey, blue, pink
Weights will be offered in stainless steel or brass
PCB’s will be Leeku’s but Gon has a NERD that will fit. Yuk Tsi has also designed a board that will fit and I believe winkeyless also has one. At this time I will only offer Leeku’s and it will be included in the kit price
The first 57 will be numbered as promised
The boards will be in a custom box and are shown in the link provided for colors. The colors shown demonstrate how hard it is to get accurate colors from a picture. Most of you know what the cyan looks like on the LZ-S and the picture is terrible. The grey show is by the manufacturer and all three appear different and the blue does too. I will ask for the darker grey and the blue is close to the LZ cyan but is not an exact match. I will try to obtain better pictures from the manufacturer. The other colors are self-explanatory.
I will attempt to provide stabilizer sets if I can source them cheaply – if anyone has a good source please PM me
There will be a custom keycap included made by the manufacturer; I can’t afford an artesian to be included
Pricing should be between $400 - $425 but will vary depending on the options chosen by each of you.
The shipping from China to me or proxies will be divided evenly among all in order to be most equitable and will be included in the shipping price directly to your home.
Due to circumstances beyond my control the price of the boards will not have the $40 deposit deducted from your bill. I think most GH members in the GB know why. If you want to complain or need an explanation, please confine it to PM’s to me.
I will probably run the GB for two weeks, it will be open to all. This will occur during the Chinese New Year celebration which will cause a delay. I anticipate 12 – 16 weeks after order for shipping to begin.
I think that covers everything and as always questions are appreciated.
Before I forget let me include thanks to zzyjayfree for helping me find a manufacturer, working as a middleman, and dealing with my endless questions and requests.
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Once I get agreement from the manufacturer I will begin the GB.
Colors offered: silver, black, grey, blue/cyan, pink
Plates – aluminum, stainless steel
Aluminum plates will be offered in silver, black, grey, blue, pink
Weights will be offered in stainless steel or brass
PCB’s will be Leeku’s but Gon has a NERD that will fit. Yuk Tsi has also designed a board that will fit and I believe winkeyless also has one. At this time I will only offer Leeku’s and it will be included in the kit price
The first 57 will be numbered as promised
The boards will be in a custom box and are shown in the link provided for colors. The colors shown demonstrate how hard it is to get accurate colors from a picture. Most of you know what the cyan looks like on the LZ-S and the picture is terrible. The grey show is by the manufacturer and all three appear different and the blue does too. I will ask for the darker grey and the blue is close to the LZ cyan but is not an exact match. I will try to obtain better pictures from the manufacturer. The other colors are self-explanatory.
I will attempt to provide stabilizer sets if I can source them cheaply – if anyone has a good source please PM me
There will be a custom keycap included made by the manufacturer; I can’t afford an artesian to be included
Pricing should be between $400 - $425 but will vary depending on the options chosen by each of you.
The shipping from China to me or proxies will be divided evenly among all in order to be most equitable and will be included in the shipping price directly to your home.
Due to circumstances beyond my control the price of the boards will not have the $40 deposit deducted from your bill. I think most GH members in the GB know why. If you want to complain or need an explanation, please confine it to PM’s to me.
I will probably run the GB for two weeks, it will be open to all. This will occur during the Chinese New Year celebration which will cause a delay. I anticipate 12 – 16 weeks after order for shipping to begin.
I think that covers everything and as always questions are appreciated.
Before I forget let me include thanks to zzyjayfree for helping me find a manufacturer, working as a middleman, and dealing with my endless questions and requests.
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Just joined GB for zealios switch and gold transparent stabilizer from Zeal. Only need a Mira case to make my very first custom kb. :cool:
Would be a hell of a first man!
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but this is going to be MX only, correct? (Sorry if this has been answered multiple times, really don't want to go through 46 pages to find out)
Just joined GB for zealios switch and gold transparent stabilizer from Zeal. Only need a Mira case to make my very first custom kb. :cool:
Would be a hell of a first man!
hehe... :thumb:
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Does the Mira only has WKL version?
Just joined GB for zealios switch and gold transparent stabilizer from Zeal. Only need a Mira case to make my very first custom kb. :cool:
Would be a hell of a first man!
hehe... :thumb:
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Does the Mira only has WKL version?
NinjaDoc sent me both WK and WKL files. So I assume he's going to offer both options.
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Silly question: Is the GB open yet? On one hand I'm reading 1st week of Jan, on the other "pending supplier ..."
Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but this is going to be MX only, correct? (Sorry if this has been answered multiple times, really don't want to go through 46 pages to find out)
Is zeal still offering gold stabs for people in the original 57?
Killin' me! Just put in for two of those RAMA M65-As, and here this opens back up soon... and it's gorgeous. Such a perfect board to drop SA NASA on to if we get that set off the ground.Not only that, but then surprise SA Penumbra & SA Hyperfuse.... I can't even see the charred remains of my wallet at this point.
Not only that, but then surprise SA Penumbra & SA Hyperfuse.... I can't even see the charred remains of my wallet at this point.
Just to confirm, this cannot be assembled without the diffuser right?Correct, limitz stated so earlier in the thread:
The acrylic spacer/diffuser is a nice and unexpected touch.
Yes, this one is my design.
Unlike most designs with acrylic spacers that have the spacer sandwiched; the Mira top/bottom mating is grooved like the 356mini (keyingtogether). The acrylic diffuser is made to support the mating, and is therefore integral to the keyboard.
Some time ago ninjadoc wrote me in a pm that an Alps plate can be made.
I also wonder about the pink. Is it a hot pink like kin's boards or a more muted pink like the Jane (and by the looks of it the Mech27)?
i have seen very few shops that can get a decent pink, and even fewer who can do so consistently. imo, it is better to get powder-coat / cerakote in your favorite pink hue than to try to anodize
I've asked, and looks like the plan is to do a light pink sort of like 456 GT. From the Matrix-lab forum: https://static.matrix-lab.cn/attachment/forum/201611/23/000845u792z349zpdy8yoy.jpg
any updated word on pricing for this? Saw in the beginning it said from $350-400, just wondering if that was still the zone or if its raised/lowered?
I've asked, and looks like the plan is to do a light pink sort of like 456 GT. From the Matrix-lab forum, photo of 456 GT: https://static.matrix-lab.cn/attachment/forum/201611/23/000845u792z349zpdy8yoy.jpg
Colors offered: silver, black, grey, blue/cyan, pink
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
Colors offered: silver, black, grey, blue/cyan, pink
http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F (http://imgur.com/a/pOa6F)
On the imgur link, after the cyan colors, there's a pic of a darker blue on top of black. Will that darker blue be offered? I am trying to make this an R2 Penumbra board for myself but the colors offered on the post is a bit ambiguous (blue/cyan).
I am way too hyped for this board!
I didn't win a Fjell :( , so its full steam ahead for this one!
I am way too hyped for this board!
I didn't win a Fjell :( , so its full steam ahead for this one!
I am way too hyped for this board!
I didn't win a Fjell :( , so its full steam ahead for this one!
haha...same here! Actually I want both Fjell and Mira. Will join Fjell again.
I've offered assistance with adding up-to-date information to the OP. Hopefully soon, when Ninjadoc is ready.Excellent! Thank you
Future - keypad, design has been discuses but not started. 75% - design also has been discussed. 65% will be a shrinkage of the 75% and probably a few modifications and the HHKB option will be available. A Full size is possible but a poll would be done prior to that beginning. IC would be done on all of the above.
i have seen very few shops that can get a decent pink, and even fewer who can do so consistently. imo, it is better to get powder-coat / cerakote in your favorite pink hue than to try to anodize
Future - keypad, design has been discuses but not started. 75% - design also has been discussed. 65% will be a shrinkage of the 75% and probably a few modifications and the HHKB option will be available. A Full size is possible but a poll would be done prior to that beginning. IC would be done on all of the above.
A whole line of Mira keyboards, exciting! :)
And this makes picking a color for this one easier, as one could still get different colors later for the other boards. If those are to come alive, of course.
Sorry about the delay - I had a family function and was delayed.
These are the approximate prices, they might be lower but they certainly shouldn't be higher.
Mira SE
Stainless weight and aluminum plate $ 400
Brass weight and aluminum plate $ 385
Steel weight and steel plate $ 420
Brass weight and steel plate $ 400
That is as close to the stated goal of $400 as I can get.
Thanks again for your patience with me.
i have seen very few shops that can get a decent pink, and even fewer who can do so consistently. imo, it is better to get powder-coat / cerakote in your favorite pink hue than to try to anodize
That sounds great. Have you ever had cerakote applied to a keyboard?
The shop doing cerakote uses a sandblasting gun and goes back and forth over the aluminum. It looks great until you apply cerakote. Then you have lines, uneven color, and any area that they stopped briefly with the gun ( second or two) appears as a glaring patch. How do I know? I tool one of my keyboards to the best shop in this area that does custom cerakoting. He did it five times, and refused to have me bring a different board in to try.
Powder coating is another issue. For mass quantity of boards you have to use a big shop. They throw things around like a the recycle guys. They hang them up on wires and if you don't have a screw hole on it you have a blank, unpainted area. Yes, I explored that option too. You can use a private small custom shop - my keyboard was there for three months and was never done. It is difficult to get those options done but powder coating can be done in small quantity. Talk to Meiosis or JD Carpe if you one a one off powder coated.
i have seen very few shops that can get a decent pink, and even fewer who can do so consistently. imo, it is better to get powder-coat / cerakote in your favorite pink hue than to try to anodize
That sounds great. Have you ever had cerakote applied to a keyboard?
The shop doing cerakote uses a sandblasting gun and goes back and forth over the aluminum. It looks great until you apply cerakote. Then you have lines, uneven color, and any area that they stopped briefly with the gun ( second or two) appears as a glaring patch. How do I know? I tool one of my keyboards to the best shop in this area that does custom cerakoting. He did it five times, and refused to have me bring a different board in to try.
Powder coating is another issue. For mass quantity of boards you have to use a big shop. They throw things around like a the recycle guys. They hang them up on wires and if you don't have a screw hole on it you have a blank, unpainted area. Yes, I explored that option too. You can use a private small custom shop - my keyboard was there for three months and was never done. It is difficult to get those options done but powder coating can be done in small quantity. Talk to Meiosis or JD Carpe if you one a one off powder coated.
very valid points, ninja. the intent of my comments were to steer those looking for a particular color to get it done themselves at a shop they trust. eg. that should not be on your shoulders along with all you are doing.
thanks again for the tremendous effort!
i have seen very few shops that can get a decent pink, and even fewer who can do so consistently. imo, it is better to get powder-coat / cerakote in your favorite pink hue than to try to anodize
That sounds great. Have you ever had cerakote applied to a keyboard?
The shop doing cerakote uses a sandblasting gun and goes back and forth over the aluminum. It looks great until you apply cerakote. Then you have lines, uneven color, and any area that they stopped briefly with the gun ( second or two) appears as a glaring patch. How do I know? I tool one of my keyboards to the best shop in this area that does custom cerakoting. He did it five times, and refused to have me bring a different board in to try.
Powder coating is another issue. For mass quantity of boards you have to use a big shop. They throw things around like a the recycle guys. They hang them up on wires and if you don't have a screw hole on it you have a blank, unpainted area. Yes, I explored that option too. You can use a private small custom shop - my keyboard was there for three months and was never done. It is difficult to get those options done but powder coating can be done in small quantity. Talk to Meiosis or JD Carpe if you one a one off powder coated.
very valid points, ninja. the intent of my comments were to steer those looking for a particular color to get it done themselves at a shop they trust. eg. that should not be on your shoulders along with all you are doing.
thanks again for the tremendous effort!
My point was to choose carefully and for some reason cerakote did not like my keyboard and he wouldn't try another so I have to say try cerakote at your own risk - it can look really cool on other items but I don't know if it will work on a keyboard.
oh damn, do you mean the particular shop wouldn't do more? There are hundreds of cerakoting shops around, probably multiple in Cincinnati
Winkey and winkeyless will be offered
Extra PCB's, plates, and weights will be offered.
The top and bottom can be ordered in different colors - for example silver top, black base.
In the future I hope to offer a GB for plates of different materials and maybe with a different PCB - not now though.
sorry if it's been stated but i don't see the answer in the new OP, but is this winkeyless only?
i see the prototype is winkeyless, but i also see some renders with the winkey as well (although they may not be relevant anymore)
I will only offer Leeku boards which will be soldered except for the bottom RGB LED’s. Leeku might be able to offer those soldered for $5 a board. The plates are designed to use both Leeku’s board and the NERD. YukTsi has been working on a TKL board that should fit and Winkeyless has a TKL board that I think will fit.
I will only offer Leeku boards which will be soldered except for the bottom RGB LED’s. Leeku might be able to offer those soldered for $5 a board. The plates are designed to use both Leeku’s board and the NERD. YukTsi has been working on a TKL board that should fit and Winkeyless has a TKL board that I think will fit.
So, a few pages back the Leeku PCB was identified as the one being offered but it was said the bottom RGB LED's will not be pre-soldered. I'm just curious if the option to pay $5 more and get the SMD LED's soldered is a reality at this point.
You mean "no soldered LEDs" = -5$, of course :)
I will only offer Leeku boards which will be soldered except for the bottom RGB LED’s. Leeku might be able to offer those soldered for $5 a board. The plates are designed to use both Leeku’s board and the NERD. YukTsi has been working on a TKL board that should fit and Winkeyless has a TKL board that I think will fit.
So, a few pages back the Leeku PCB was identified as the one being offered but it was said the bottom RGB LED's will not be pre-soldered. I'm just curious if the option to pay $5 more and get the SMD LED's soldered is a reality at this point.
Yeah, I think if this board has an acrylic layer, LED's should be included by default. Maybe have people who opt out get a $5 discount? Basically on the form, 'No LED?' -$5
I will only offer Leeku boards which will be soldered except for the bottom RGB LED’s. Leeku might be able to offer those soldered for $5 a board. The plates are designed to use both Leeku’s board and the NERD. YukTsi has been working on a TKL board that should fit and Winkeyless has a TKL board that I think will fit.
So, a few pages back the Leeku PCB was identified as the one being offered but it was said the bottom RGB LED's will not be pre-soldered. I'm just curious if the option to pay $5 more and get the SMD LED's soldered is a reality at this point.
When the GB thread is opened I hope ninjadoc can be the creator :). Sucks to have to wait for someone who has abandoned this project (and taken the funds)
colors have been submitted to Photoelectric for posting of a poll.
Since English seems to be hard for me at the end of the day for whatever reason - the Mira will be offered in black, silver,grey,blue,pink.
Poll is to decide which version of pink and which version of blue.
Thank you
just to confirm, those of the first 57 that have stuck around so far still have our numbers reserved?
The color poll will be added tomorrow, as per ninjadoc's request.
just to confirm, those of the first 57 that have stuck around so far still have our numbers reserved?
Correct - unless you've sold or traded it. Those sales have been kept up with. The numbers will be asked for on your order and if there is a discrepancy I or Frosty will PM you and ask about it.
just to confirm, those of the first 57 that have stuck around so far still have our numbers reserved?
Correct - unless you've sold or traded it. Those sales have been kept up with. The numbers will be asked for on your order and if there is a discrepancy I or Frosty will PM you and ask about it.
That's great to hear! I had bought a slot from en7ropy back in August and was worried it wouldn't count for this.
Leeku TX-87 PCB's with presoldered RGB LED's will be available. I assume given there is a diffuser plate that most if not all will want these so that is all that will be ordered to make Leeku and my life simpler. Please add $5 to my previous costs of the Mira just so you have it in mind.
Plan: poll from this Friday to next Friday, GB buy to start on January 28th and run through till February 11. Billing will only begin when I know the factory is ready to begin production.
Leeku TX-87 PCB's with presoldered RGB LED's will be available. I assume given there is a diffuser plate that most if not all will want these so that is all that will be ordered to make Leeku and my life simpler. Please add $5 to my previous costs of the Mira just so you have it in mind.
Plan: poll from this Friday to next Friday, GB buy to start on January 28th and run through till February 11. Billing will only begin when I know the factory is ready to begin production.
:thumb:
Remember to vote blue everyone!
Leeku TX-87 PCB's with presoldered RGB LED's will be available. I assume given there is a diffuser plate that most if not all will want these so that is all that will be ordered to make Leeku and my life simpler. Please add $5 to my previous costs of the Mira just so you have it in mind.
Plan: poll from this Friday to next Friday, GB buy to start on January 28th and run through till February 11. Billing will only begin when I know the factory is ready to begin production.
:thumb:
Remember to vote blue everyone!
:thinking:
we're voting for which blue we want from a variety of blues. Of course we're all going to vote blue.
Leeku TX-87 PCB's with presoldered RGB LED's will be available. I assume given there is a diffuser plate that most if not all will want these so that is all that will be ordered to make Leeku and my life simpler. Please add $5 to my previous costs of the Mira just so you have it in mind.
Plan: poll from this Friday to next Friday, GB buy to start on January 28th and run through till February 11. Billing will only begin when I know the factory is ready to begin production.
:thumb:
Remember to vote blue everyone!
:thinking:
we're voting for which blue we want from a variety of blues. Of course we're all going to vote blue.
Remember to vote some type of dark blue (not cyan)! :thumb:
I'm on-board with not-cyan as well. But remember that something like blue-black will just look black in most lighting that's not bright. Unless you live under a bright halogen lamp or have your desk right next to a bright window. Might as well get black if you want something that dark.
I'm on-board with not-cyan as well. But remember that something like blue-black will just look black in most lighting that's not bright. Unless you live under a bright halogen lamp or have your desk right next to a bright window. Might as well get black if you want something that dark.
I'm not familiar with the blue-black color unless it is the photo ninjadoc posted two different angles of. I'm unafraid of black but would be hoping for more of a navy or traditional dark blue color.
I'm on-board with not-cyan as well. But remember that something like blue-black will just look black in most lighting that's not bright. Unless you live under a bright halogen lamp or have your desk right next to a bright window. Might as well get black if you want something that dark.
I'm not familiar with the blue-black color unless it is the photo ninjadoc posted two different angles of. I'm unafraid of black but would be hoping for more of a navy or traditional dark blue color.
Side question, has there been evidence of issues with non-nickel-coated brass producing some type of corrosion issues/does it look different from what a majority of the brass options offered on GH look like?
Which SA set?
Can someone refresh my memory?
Is there an option to have switches added and soldered?
Basically a just add caps thing?
Is this grey or silver? Thank you!
I think that's actually silver.
Is this grey or silver? Thank you!I think that's actually silver.
I think it's grey. Can anyone confirm?
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If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
Check the big bold text at the top of the OP :P
http://imgur.com/a/JYOuh
Honestly I had all intentions of going grey, but now that blue-grey is calling me.
Do you know if it was hard-anodized? Seems on the dark side for silver (clear). I think those photos were made outdoors.
If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
Is this grey or silver? Thank you!
If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
The issue with the blue-grey is the pictures I've seen it looks anywhere from purple to battle ship grey. One is on its way to me now but it has been stuck in Hong Kong all week and just left today. I will try to get some good pictures then.
Personally I like the dark blue better but blue-grey is winning! :(
Ninja, with all the work you are doing, I think at the very least you deserve to put a color of your choice.If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
The issue with the blue-grey is the pictures I've seen it looks anywhere from purple to battle ship grey. One is on its way to me now but it has been stuck in Hong Kong all week and just left today. I will try to get some good pictures then.
Personally I like the dark blue better but blue-grey is winning! :(
Ninja, with all the work you are doing, I think at the very least you deserve to put a color of your choice.If blue-gray wins, I'll probably want to see a mockup or sample. Blue gray can mean a wide variety of things.
The issue with the blue-grey is the pictures I've seen it looks anywhere from purple to battle ship grey. One is on its way to me now but it has been stuck in Hong Kong all week and just left today. I will try to get some good pictures then.
Personally I like the dark blue better but blue-grey is winning! :(
I only say this because I voted for dark blue also :) :thumb:
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Aren't all those other buys basically fairly light gray with a blue tint? This blue gray looks quite different, like slightly faded medium blue.
I'm in the market for a TKL so this buy couldn't have gone active at a better time. I'm in for a board.
I was torn between dark blue and blue grey but finally picked dark blue. The pale blue-grey looks like it could easily tilt toward magenta. When I order I'll probably go with straight grey or silver, possibly black.
Could we possibly get an updated gdoc of the first 57 to make sure everything is correct?
Maybe block out half of their email with ****'s?Could we possibly get an updated gdoc of the first 57 to make sure everything is correct?
At this point in time I'm not sure how to display the numbers.
Certain people failed to put down their usernames on the initial form and the only way I have of tracking said people is via email. Of course, I cannot post that kind of information publicly.
Maybe block out half of their email with ****'s?Could we possibly get an updated gdoc of the first 57 to make sure everything is correct?
At this point in time I'm not sure how to display the numbers.
Certain people failed to put down their usernames on the initial form and the only way I have of tracking said people is via email. Of course, I cannot post that kind of information publicly.
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Thanks frosty!Maybe block out half of their email with ****'s?Could we possibly get an updated gdoc of the first 57 to make sure everything is correct?
At this point in time I'm not sure how to display the numbers.
Certain people failed to put down their usernames on the initial form and the only way I have of tracking said people is via email. Of course, I cannot post that kind of information publicly.
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Fortunately, the first 57 actually do know how to use forms. I won't name names, mostly because I don't actually have names to name, but some people thought their username was "geekhack".
Alas, here is the list:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/io1ZgpL.png)
So... how about Grey? it's still Light Grey or would become Dark Grey ?
Where is the order form? Please, provide a link?
So... how about Grey? it's still Light Grey or would become Dark Grey ?
I have the same question. Grey vs Silver confuses me.
I notice in the newest prototype there is some kind og plastic or something in the middle of the board, is it possible to omit this if one doesnt care about leds?
So... how about Grey? it's still Light Grey or would become Dark Grey ?
I have the same question. Grey vs Silver confuses me.
Grey is a color like this :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tBpDOWNm.jpg)
Silver is essentially clear anodizing over a machined and finished bare aluminum keyboard
(http://i.imgur.com/XPDQOcrm.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XPDQOcrm.jpg)
That was taken outside.
Gray looks pretty nice. What material is the insert in that photo?So... how about Grey? it's still Light Grey or would become Dark Grey ?
I have the same question. Grey vs Silver confuses me.
Grey is a color like this :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tBpDOWNm.jpg)
Silver is essentially clear anodizing over a machined and finished bare aluminum keyboard
(http://i.imgur.com/XPDQOcrm.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XPDQOcrm.jpg)
That was taken outside.
So 45 people voted for a shade of pink... Something tells me there won't be 45 people ordering pink Mira parts ;) (unless somehow some were voting for both shades, which would make no sense!)
I voted blue-grey but I'd be happy with dark blue too... the more I look at them, the more I can't decide :confused:
Any chance of releasing the file for the acrylic spacer? I'm thinking about getting a stainless steel one made
This one will be my first custom board. Can't wait, dark blue looks fantastic. What's wrong with me??? I can't sleep, I'm counting the days till this GB round. Were there any other people like me here when they started getting in into this keyboard/keycaps madness???
This one will be my first custom board. Can't wait, dark blue looks fantastic. What's wrong with me??? I can't sleep, I'm counting the days till this GB round. Were there any other people like me here when they started getting in into this keyboard/keycaps madness???
I was revisiting the original pics and I came across the weight with "Dr. Hubble" prominently displayed at the top. While I would definitely want to give credit to the designer, he is not the one bringing us this board. If it is possible to change the plate at this point, with being so close to the GB, perhaps it should first read "Brought to Life By: Ninjadoc" and then give credit to the designer.
Just my opinion but I feel this way because I know from experience that creating something takes a lot more effort than just coming up with a cool idea.
Not sure if this has been asked but will the final product support switch top removal in the plate?I believe the OP has been kept up to date thanks to Photoelectric, but I'd be happy to be wrong about this!
I expect to be able to offer stainless steel and aluminum plates and the aluminum plates can be anodized. The plates do not allow switch top removal, that may change depending on time available to make that change.
I don't believe there's any assembly service offered at this time (please correct me if I'm wrong). You'd need to arrange it with someone if you don't want to solder in switches yourself.
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
I want that "Night Sky Blue" color please.... :eek:
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
The USB area seems very different for both the grey and blue board. Are these just samples or are they the final prototype? :(
I love the boxes!
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
The USB area seems very different for both the grey and blue board. Are these just samples or are they the final prototype? :(
I love the boxes!
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
That box alone is seriously impressive? Where does one go to have such nice packaging made anyway? Is this the first custom board to have branded packaging like that?
I think these are prototypes from different stages of the design. The blue one is what seems to be the relatively final configuration, though there might be some minor tweaks before production. I like the sharper curves of the blue one more--the gray one is super rounded along the outer corners. And the final prototype rear side is nicer.
That box alone is seriously impressive? Where does one go to have such nice packaging made anyway? Is this the first custom board to have branded packaging like that?
All of RAMA's stuff has custom packaging and he really goes overboard with it (the guy loves packaging). But that's the only other example I can think of.
Prototype MIRA photos from ninjadoc:
http://imgur.com/a/AAydJ
(keep in mind that these were taken indoors in artificial light, so they are not perfectly accurate).
The USB area seems very different for both the grey and blue board. Are these just samples or are they the final prototype? :(
I love the boxes!
The grey one is from the Chinese group buy. I had to have one so I would have one of most of the prototypes. I have no idea what happpened to the first prototype or to the one YukTsi sold. The one YukTsi sold is the only one I know of with that weight in the bottom.
That box alone is seriously impressive? Where does one go to have such nice packaging made anyway? Is this the first custom board to have branded packaging like that?
All of RAMA's stuff has custom packaging and he really goes overboard with it (the guy loves packaging). But that's the only other example I can think of.
The diffuser looks to be not continuous around the front and back, that is pretty sick...
Does anyone remember what the angle is gonna be? I forgot and am too lazy to search for it
The diffuser looks to be not continuous around the front and back, that is pretty sick...
This way the screws are hidden :)
I feel like it looks a bit cleaner
Does anyone remember what the angle is gonna be? I forgot and am too lazy to search for it
I think I remember it being 9 or 10 degrees?
Mira currently features:
The custom b.Mira PCB from Winkeyless featuring his standard reprogramability functions and LED support, only controller parts will be pre-soldered (see below for more info)
An engraved stainless Steel weight, slotted in the back of the case
A full aluminum case
9 degree incline
The grey one is from the Chinese group buy. I had to have one so I would have one of most of the prototypes. I have no idea what happpened to the first prototype or to the one YukTsi sold. The one YukTsi sold is the only one I know of with that weight in the bottom.
Which one was the one Yuktsi sold? Was it the one with the long brass weight inside of it and the revised Mira logo without the sun system (O' Mira)?
Group buy will go off later today if I can get the order form completed - the delay is me, not manufacturing.
I have been ill this week and have been unable to spend prolonged time at the computer.
Colors will be interstellar black,silver, lunar grey, cosmic pink, night sky blue
Final price will run from $395 - $425. Apparently LZ can get stainless steel machined for less than I can.
The list by Frosty will be numbered and will get free gold stabilizers from Zeal.
I can source stabilizers from Zeal or individuals can purchase their own. I may offer the gold stabilizers kits but I don't believe it is worth the double shipping and fees from Zeal to me and then from me to you for the regular stabilizer kits. I will provide links to his website with the mods permission for purchase of both.
Group buy will go off later today if I can get the order form completed - the delay is me, not manufacturing.
I have been ill this week and have been unable to spend prolonged time at the computer.
Colors will be interstellar black,silver, lunar grey, cosmic pink, night sky blue
Final price will run from $395 - $425. Apparently LZ can get stainless steel machined for less than I can.
The list by Frosty will be numbered and will get free gold stabilizers from Zeal.
I can source stabilizers from Zeal or individuals can purchase their own. I may offer the gold stabilizers kits but I don't believe it is worth the double shipping and fees from Zeal to me and then from me to you for the regular stabilizer kits. I will provide links to his website with the mods permission for purchase of both.
Does anyone remember what the angle is gonna be? I forgot and am too lazy to search for it
Group buy will go off later today if I can get the order form completed - the delay is me, not manufacturing.
I have been ill this week and have been unable to spend prolonged time at the computer.
Colors will be interstellar black,silver, lunar grey, cosmic pink, night sky blue
Final price will run from $395 - $425. Apparently LZ can get stainless steel machined for less than I can.
The list by Frosty will be numbered and will get free gold stabilizers from Zeal.
I can source stabilizers from Zeal or individuals can purchase their own. I may offer the gold stabilizers kits but I don't believe it is worth the double shipping and fees from Zeal to me and then from me to you for the regular stabilizer kits. I will provide links to his website with the mods permission for purchase of both.
GB thread is awaiting mod approval
GB thread is awaiting mod approval
GB thread is awaiting mod approval
GB thread is awaiting mod approval
Wow we have reached the GB phase!! Huge thanks Ninjadoc!! Seriously thanks so much for all the work/time you put in to make this a reality for us. I was/am really excited for this board :thumb:
Choosing a color is probably gonna take me a week of deliberation....
IT'S ALIVE!!! :thumb:
IT'S ALIVE!!! :thumb:
Link? Where is the order form?
Is this group buy still open and if so, how can you purchase the Hubble Mira?
GB OPEN https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87310.msg2350738#new
Is this group buy still open and if so, how can you purchase the Hubble Mira?
The group buy is closed and the link to the group buy was right above your post. :blank:GB OPEN https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87310.msg2350738#new