[IC] "Hello" M0110 60% reboot - GB Date 10th June

[well_cooper]

"Hello, again" M0110 reboot

Inspired by the OG 0110, M0110 bring some modern touch to the classic design.

GB POST Link here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113279.0

Hi Geekhack, may I present you with this collaboration between me and FanC studio. My previous collab with them can be found in the album here
This board ran on Drop before and we will get to that at the end

Board specs: (Price ~ $350 - $370 USD)

• Case material: 6061 Aluminum
• Colour options: Electrophoresis finish (white or black), Anodized (silver, grey) or Specially treated PC (fog, smoke)
• Plate material: Brass, Carbon Fibre, PC
• Plate file: available to the public
• Plate style: Top-mounted (experimenting with gasket conversion kit)
• PVD brass weight with engraved "hello" design
• 60% Universal Layout PCB (Non-Hotswap) or Fixed layout (Hotswap)
• QMK programmable & VIA support
• Supports through-hole LEDs
• Connection: USB-C (JST connector to daughterboard)
• Typing angle: 6 degrees
• Weight: 1.8 kg or 4 lbs

Soler PCB supported layout

Colour:2 E-colour, 2 Anodizing colour, 2 PC colour

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Previous run
Popcorn anyone?

This board was previously running on Drop, yes that one. Y0ghurt, who is the original designer (now part of FanC Studio) gave his design to Ryloo to manufacture a small batch for his local group buy ONLY in early 2020. He only became aware at pickup that extra 100+ plus units have been sold through Drop and Ryloo was going to take care of QC, packing, and after-sale service and we all know what happened afterward.
He has been kept out of the loop in their communications and only became aware of all the issues when I presented screen grabs in Drop’s discussion thread. He has since discontinued all relationships with Ryloo.

Moving forward

All “Hello, again” M0110 will be manufactured in-house and provide timely updates through my Discord channel. QC and packing will be done in-house prior to shipping.
If you have purchased a kit or know someone who has previously purchased through Drop please share the word, FanC Studio and I are looking to provide after-sale service to those units. Aftersale form Click Here

[well_cooper]

RESERVED

UPDATE:
03 June
GB is pushed back by 5 days (sorry, finalizing purchasing page and testing site links)
Powder-coated Beige prototype has arrived, the colour has a slight greenish.




FanC studio has informed me Beige option in the GB production will be closer to PANTONE 11-0105 TPG Antique White


30 May
GB date set 5th 10 June 2021 @ 7 PM GMT+8 time zone (about 4 weeks GB window however might close early), GB post will be submitted for approval tomorrow

22 April
After many attempts here is the E-Coate Beige sample with GMK Corsa Auto



PCB prototype has passed QC, it will utilize aio3's unified daughterboard design. Main PCB and Daughte board will have antistatic measure built-in.

GB Date is tentatively set to go live at the end of April through my storefront: Thocc Supply (link will be published at the GB post here
03 Mar

More

1. Beige colour is undergoing testing, more likely to be Electric static coated Beige (smooth matt finish)

2. Properly shaped gasket kit is on order

3. Removed Left, Right, and Spacebar mounting point on the plate due to popular demand

4. New plate will also add in split Spacebar support (Drop's run didn't support split Spacebar)

3. PCB is getting revised completely, mainly to support JST connector cable and outright supporting the latest Unified-Daughterboard design published by ai03. Will also add-in anti-static measure to the main PCB as well.
NOTE
This means the new Daughterboard will not be compatible with cases purchased from Drop in their previous run

17 Feb
Prototype unit has arrived, will build it and upload a sound test video
Badge can be removed in the HHKB version, more on that when GB is ready to start
Gasket conversion kit is currently on hold until after CNY
Beige or warm white variant is a possibility and will have to confirm with surface treatment factory after CNY

[hottrout]

ok.

[ddnomad]

Hmmm

1. Would love to see an option to opt out from the badge thing in HHKB version

2. Can you please show an exploded view of the keeb and attach any sound tests? Would be definitely helpful to assess the sound, given that I’m not very familiar with the previous run.

3. Can we agree on timely updates here on Geekhack, and not on Discord server number 10004169000 I’d need to join for no apparent reason at all? Mailing lists would work too.

All in all, kinda interesting. Will follow the thread. Also now I want to read on the Drop drama lol

[well_cooper]

ok.

ok nope, ok yes ?

[hottrout]

ok.

ok nope, ok yes ?

OK yes I like the design, but a lot of people had issues the 1st time around.  I appreciate you have explained that in your post.  Also I am still very sore from the VN66 that never materialized and was another great take on the Apple board.  I will follow the thread to see how this develops.

[well_cooper]

Hmmm

1. Would love to see an option to opt out from the badge thing in HHKB version

2. Can you please show an exploded view of the keeb and attach any sound tests? Would be definitely helpful to assess the sound, given that I’m not very familiar with the previous run.

3. Can we agree on timely updates here on Geekhack, and not on Discord server number 10004169000 I’d need to join for no apparent reason at all? Mailing lists would work too.

All in all, kinda interesting. Will follow the thread. Also now I want to read on the Drop drama lol

1. A plain badge could be a possibility too
2. Pre-production sample has been shipped and is a couple of days away from me, I will record and upload a sound test video here. Exploded view are not up yet since we are still working on the gasket kit, shall put one up when its been finalized.
3. Updates ofc will be posted here, Discord and also mailing list (spam filter has been a issue with missing emails)

[well_cooper]

ok.

ok nope, ok yes ?

OK yes I like the design, but a lot of people had issues the 1st time around.  I appreciate you have explained that in your post.  Also I am still very sore from the VN66 that never materialized and was another great take on the Apple board.  I will follow the thread to see how this develops.

Fully understand your position and thank you, after-sale form link for those who purchased on Drop is also available in the Post (at the end)

[ddnomad]

Hmmm

1. Would love to see an option to opt out from the badge thing in HHKB version

2. Can you please show an exploded view of the keeb and attach any sound tests? Would be definitely helpful to assess the sound, given that I’m not very familiar with the previous run.

3. Can we agree on timely updates here on Geekhack, and not on Discord server number 10004169000 I’d need to join for no apparent reason at all? Mailing lists would work too.

All in all, kinda interesting. Will follow the thread. Also now I want to read on the Drop drama lol

1. A plain badge could be a possibility too
2. Pre-production sample has been shipped and is a couple of days away from me, I will record and upload a sound test video here. Exploded view are not up yet since we are still working on the gasket kit, shall put one up when its been finalized.
3. Updates ofc will be posted here, Discord and also mailing list (spam filter has been a issue with missing emails)

Thanks for a prompt answer!

Regarding the badge, would still love to have an option to not have it completely. It ruins the symmetry for me and also it’s exactly in a place where I often rest a side of my palm with HHKB-like boards so even the slightest protrusion would end up in an unpleasant feeling for me.

[well_cooper]

Hmmm

1. Would love to see an option to opt out from the badge thing in HHKB version

2. Can you please show an exploded view of the keeb and attach any sound tests? Would be definitely helpful to assess the sound, given that I’m not very familiar with the previous run.

3. Can we agree on timely updates here on Geekhack, and not on Discord server number 10004169000 I’d need to join for no apparent reason at all? Mailing lists would work too.

All in all, kinda interesting. Will follow the thread. Also now I want to read on the Drop drama lol

1. A plain badge could be a possibility too
2. Pre-production sample has been shipped and is a couple of days away from me, I will record and upload a sound test video here. Exploded view are not up yet since we are still working on the gasket kit, shall put one up when its been finalized.
3. Updates ofc will be posted here, Discord and also mailing list (spam filter has been a issue with missing emails)

Thanks for a prompt answer!

Regarding the badge, would still love to have an option to not have it completely. It ruins the symmetry for me and also it’s exactly in a place where I often rest a side of my palm with HHKB-like boards so even the slightest protrusion would end up in an unpleasant feeling for me.

Thank you for sharing your experience, I'll pass it on to FanC Studio

[Tree_]

No concerns that KBDFans have had a IC running for over half a year for a board called Hello? https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-hello-v1-keyboard-case

[well_cooper]

No concerns that KBDFans have had a IC running for over half a year for a board called Hello? https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-hello-v1-keyboard-case

By the timeline of it, Y0ghurt had it first 

[MIGHTY CHICKEN]

Ima nut, GLWIC

[Havattack]

YES, YES, YES, YES Sign me up for 3!

[plag]

alps support?

[AshF]

Super cool design and really digging this.

[kaworu]

Looks good, would love to have more info on the PCB. Specifically about ESD protection and a picture because I fear for the bottom row with so many options.

[Tom Sparrow]

I love it!

[ddrfraser1]

Yes.

1. Would like to opt out of the badge

2. Beige please.

[ddnomad]

Yes.

1. Would like to opt out of the badge

2. Beige please.

No badge squad advance! ⚡️

[IO Sam]

"60% Universal Layout PCB"

I know this is top mount, but do you think is there any chance one could adapt it to use other 60% universal layout PCBs instead? I ask from the point of view of someone who would love to be able to use Alps switches in this case if at all possible (and I don't assume this kit's included PCB would support that).

[Kacperoni]

First picture is definitely the Ewhite, what is the second picture? Seems like the Ewhite, but the color is extremely off. I am certainly interested in the HHKB version, just like the first pic, but if the color is closer to the second pic, then not that sure about it anymore :/

[TheBlackHammer]

The smoke polycarb is amazing! I need it!


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[Vibex]

Oh wow, this is gorgeous! Already envisioning a carzy build in the PC fog case!

[Reebes]

Looks v cool. Watched

[SMOKEY]

Yes.

1. Would like to opt out of the badge

2. Beige please.

Exactly this.
Showing a beige cw in the header, hyping me up and then not offering beige

[TjarleN]

+1 for Alps support and option for no badge.

... of all the issues...

What issues did round 1 have?

I saw the board on drop at the time but did not follow anything related to the buy. So I am out of the loop and would like to hear a bit more about the problems and what will be done to prevent them (besides better QC, support and communication).

[hottrout]

I quite like the placement of a badge but just not the one shown.  Maybe make some new suggestions around the name 'Hello Again'

[kidpid]

Since the PCB is connecting with a daughterboard do you think the USB port could be moved to the center?

Also, the bottom row of the plate is a mess with all of the layouts you're trying to support. I would much prefer a dedicated 7u spacebar bottom row plate, especially for the HHKB version. I would also like to see a half plate option if possible.

+1 to beige

I like the badge, but it maybe it's a little too close to the caps? It feels a little cramped to me.

[Oggi]

I love the inspiration but the mounting point underneath the spacebar is going to make it stiffer than all of the vtuber keyset designers

[rpiguy9907]

Can we please get Alps support and Apple key cap support?

[well_cooper]

I quite like the placement of a badge but just not the one shown.  Maybe make some new suggestions around the name 'Hello Again'

"one more thing..."

[well_cooper]

I love it!

Ima nut, GLWIC

YES, YES, YES, YES Sign me up for 3!

Looks v cool. Watched

Super cool design and really digging this.

Thank you!!

[well_cooper]

Can we please get Alps support and Apple key cap support?

"60% Universal Layout PCB"

I know this is top mount, but do you think is there any chance one could adapt it to use other 60% universal layout PCBs instead? I ask from the point of view of someone who would love to be able to use Alps switches in this case if at all possible (and I don't assume this kit's included PCB would support that).

+1 for Alps support and option for no badge.

alps support?

I have personally thought about ALPS support, tho 3rd party PCB could be a good alternative option and since plate file is open source that can be altered to support Alps switches.

The reason not to officially support Alps is that since FanC and I never designed PCB for this type of switches means there is a good chance more thing will go wrong and pushing GB date wayyyy back

[well_cooper]

First picture is definitely the Ewhite, what is the second picture? Seems like the Ewhite, but the color is extremely off. I am certainly interested in the HHKB version, just like the first pic, but if the color is closer to the second pic, then not that sure about it anymore :/

Both pic are E-white, second pic colour look different is due to lighting set-up in renders

[well_cooper]

Since the PCB is connecting with a daughterboard do you think the USB port could be moved to the center?

Also, the bottom row of the plate is a mess with all of the layouts you're trying to support. I would much prefer a dedicated 7u spacebar bottom row plate, especially for the HHKB version. I would also like to see a half plate option if possible.

+1 to beige

I like the badge, but it maybe it's a little too close to the caps? It feels a little cramped to me.

Yes.

1. Would like to opt out of the badge

2. Beige please.

Yes.

1. Would like to opt out of the badge

2. Beige please.

Exactly this.
Showing a beige cw in the header, hyping me up and then not offering beige

Haven't forgotten about beige colour     however we will have to confirm with manu after CNY hence it is not shown in any of the renders, fill out IC form and stay tuned

[IO Sam]

I have personally thought about ALPS support, tho 3rd party PCB could be a good alternative option and since plate file is open source that can be altered to support Alps switches.

The reason not to officially support Alps is that since FanC and I never designed PCB for this type of switches means there is a good chance more thing will go wrong and pushing GB date wayyyy back

The fact your PCB will be open source is highly appreciated in this case!
How will the kit's PCB be attached to the plate in this design? Are the screw holes the same as a regular standard 60% PCB (Vortex style)?

[CustomerSupport]

What is the specific hotswap layout? Bonus points if Backspace and RShift are split by default; that'd be an instant buy.

Otherwise, really like the form factor, and everything about this board checks my boxes. It would be cool to pair this with XDA Oblique.

[well_cooper]

I have personally thought about ALPS support, tho 3rd party PCB could be a good alternative option and since plate file is open source that can be altered to support Alps switches.

The reason not to officially support Alps is that since FanC and I never designed PCB for this type of switches means there is a good chance more thing will go wrong and pushing GB date wayyyy back

The fact your PCB will be open source is highly appreciated in this case!
How will the kit's PCB be attached to the plate in this design? Are the screw holes the same as a regular standard 60% PCB (Vortex style)?

Just the plate file will be open source atm
PCB will be held on either with solder joints or hot-swap sockets pressure when switches are installed, avoiding standoff and screws that create still typing experience at certain places

[well_cooper]

What is the specific hotswap layout? Bonus points if Backspace and RShift are split by default; that'd be an instant buy.

Otherwise, really like the form factor, and everything about this board checks my boxes. It would be cool to pair this with XDA Oblique.

Most likely it will be a standard 60% to be compatible with both HHKB top case and standard top case but you do have a legit point. I'll pitch the idea to FanC

[lush_bunny]

My girlfriend likes this.  I guess I'm watching this thread.

[well_cooper]

First IC update is up

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111216.msg3014001#msg3014001

[Capone1423]

Hi,

I'm one of the original buyers, and I reached out via the aftersales formular couple of days ago, when can I expect a reply?

btw. great board, love it....

Thanks in advance

[merlin64]

You had me at "hello".

[TimeDoctor]

Love this with the badge, hoping for maximum color compatibility with the MT3 extended 2048 set by Biip

[LarryMX]

I want this badly. Gotta be beige and have a minimal or recessed logo HHKB layout. I am eagerly watching this one!

[logo4poop]

Hi! quite like this. Could you remove the mounting points on the side and under the space bar? That generally improves typing feel.

[well_cooper]

Hi! quite like this. Could you remove the mounting points on the side and under the space bar? That generally improves typing feel.

We are already talking about removing those mounting points, it's all depending on if the gasket conversion kit provides stable typing feedback with just 4 contact surfaces

[well_cooper]

Hi,

I'm one of the original buyers, and I reached out via the aftersales formular couple of days ago, when can I expect a reply?

btw. great board, love it....

Thanks in advance

Thank you for taking time to fill it out, time line is that I'll reach out to everyone one who need after-sale service together so no lone been left out by accident.

[well_cooper]

You had me at "hello".

Hey merlin, love your pog news updates on all the mech GBs