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Offline SwirlCables

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #300 on: Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:03:07 »
this is siiiiiick!  :eek:

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #301 on: Wed, 14 July 2021, 13:19:31 »
Going to KIV this one. Looks good.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #302 on: Thu, 22 July 2021, 13:01:56 »
will this support split backspace?

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #303 on: Thu, 22 July 2021, 13:51:31 »
This is the layout that the PCB is slated to support:


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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #304 on: Thu, 22 July 2021, 13:53:25 »
No 10u?

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Unit Counts Announced (May 21)
« Reply #305 on: Thu, 22 July 2021, 19:02:22 »
I received some modified test plates and I am very happy with the way they turned out. As mentioned last time, I felt that the full aluminum plate design from before was a little too forgiving and there wasn't enough variety, so I aimed to firm up the feel a bit.

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In the end, here is what we have. The original 'leaf-spring' kerf-cut design was too flexible, even in a full-plate configuration. So it's been replaced with a modified top-mount, with some added relief through longer mounting arms. More flexible material plates, such as polycarbonate and polypropylene, will not have these relief arms - they will be removed in exchange for a typical top-mount. I quite like the feel of the board with this new full aluminum plate. It's got a sharp tactility and bottom out, but still has a pretty decent amount of flex due to only having 4 mounting point placed around the alphas. If we want firmer, there are stiffer materials out there...

That being said, very pleased to announce that files have been finalized and have been sent off for pre-production prototyping. When those are received, I believe we'll be able to confirm some exciting details such as group-buy dates, pricing, etc.


Has a GB date or price been mentioned for this yet?

No confirmed date yet, hopefully we have that soon. See the above message!

Presumably this can be built as ISO with an appropriate PCB/plate.  Will that be supported as an option on purchase?  Will plate files be released?

The PCB will support ISO, but I haven't confirmed whether or not ISO compatible plates will be offered in GB yet. If not, I don't think it will be much issue to offer files for people to have their own plates made.

Please please please offer ISO plates!

Seconded. Pleas gimme my ISO.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #306 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 02:53:45 »
very beautiful  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #307 on: Fri, 30 July 2021, 09:52:21 »
keeping a serious eye on this. if it stays under $500 I'll be trying to get it for sure.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #308 on: Fri, 30 July 2021, 19:04:52 »
New engraving design is looking very n o i c e. Cant wait to see the new protos.

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | Aluminum Full Plate DEMO
« Reply #309 on: Fri, 30 July 2021, 20:01:04 »
Major Update: Yet Another Engraving Iteration... (but it's final!)

Scroll to the bottom for a TL;DR...

I've spent many hours putting together an engraving that I felt completely satisfied with for Cloudline. Now that I've finally found something that I think fits the theme and looks the way I want it, I'm happy to present the FINAL engraving for Cloudline. I want to recap the different iterations of engravings that this board has gone through. Of course, I don't want this to come off as me being fickle or undecisive - IMO, it's normal for designs to change, improve (subjective), and go through stages to get to their final form. This is just a log to share the thought process that went into each stage.

Engraving 0

The very first iteration of the engraving was a logo. I decided I didn't want to establish myself as a brand, so that was scrapped quickly. It was obvious that most people would prefer for their keyboards to not be branded with a large, visible-in-use designer logo as well (except for some goated boards...). I ordered my first prototype with this engraving.



Issues:
  • It was a 'brand logo'

Engraving 1

It made more sense for the keyboard to be engraved with something related to the board itself, rather than the designer. I didn't want to leave the top-case plain, as I wanted the board to be easily identifiable from any angle. A blank top-case would look like any other blank-top TKL. The first cloud-related engraving on the top case was a simple cloud with an underline, centered above the arrow keys.



It was at this stage where I looked at my keyboard on my desk, and had a really strong vision of a clean rectangular engraving, looking like a long window with clouds spanning the length of it.

Issues:
  • Instead of the 'elegant and minimal' look I was aiming for, it felt 'wimpy and underwhelming'.
  • I'll be honest - this engraving is still good to me. It probably could have worked if I tweaked with the thickness of the stroke.


Engraving 2

After reflecting on the overall board design, I decided I wanted something a bit more detailed and eye-catching. After all, the internal aesthetic of the board definitely had a lot of thought put into it. So I started working on drafts for a potential 'long engraving'. It was a struggle to gauge the amount of detail that would work on an engraving, especially since the physical scale of designing on a computer screen is a lot different from actually seeing it to-size in person. I ended up feeling satisfied with one of the WORST engraving iterations I've yet had. I'm almost embarrassed to look back on this one...



A major issue I ran into is that in order to reduce the artificial symmetry of the logo, I created empty spaces in the sky that I felt needed to be filled with a moon and stars. I got carried away, and I'm not afraid to admit it. I lost sight of my original idea, and the result strayed further and further from being a clean, elegant rectangle with clouds.

Issues:
  • It was weird.
  • It felt like a 'mess of lines', disorganized and unsure in what it was trying to represent.
  • Way too detailed for an engraving of its size.
  • Shannie suggested I work on reducing the 'symmetry' of the logo - symmetry in clouds is unnatural and artificial.

Engraving 3

After a few weeks, I looked at Engraving 2 and realized it was a bit too weird, a bit too abstract. I tried to move a bit closer towards my original idea of a 'rectangle' and decided to close out the edges. I thickened the stroke width, simplified some details in the clouds, and came up with this. This is the current engraving that we have coming on the pre-production prototypes.



Issues:
  • It's 'cute', mainly due to the style of moon and stars.
  • The moon and stars strayed from the overall theme.
  • It felt a little 'unclean' compared to the rest of the board.

Engraving 4 (The Final Iteration)

Somewhere inside my head, a tiny voice was whispering that it didn't really fit the theme. As the days went on, that voice became louder, urging me to sit down and work on more designs until I had something that I was completely happy with. I decided I'd save the moon and stars for another idea later down the road. Struggling to find out what I was going for, I really tried to focus on my original motive for redesigning the first engraving - I wanted something a bit more detailed, but not 'dirty'. It became obvious what the issues with Engraving 3 were. I wanted to clean up the corners, reduce the cuteness of the engraving, and tie it closer into the overall theme and surrounding design cues of the board.

I made a few iterations that I felt happy with, but thankfully Shannie (my partner and collaborator on this project) made me take a step back and look at my design again... her response: "bc the clouds you have rn feel a bit clearly blocked off, it still looks good but it is like very symmetrical when clouds normally are not" - it was not the response I was hoping for, but the response I needed.

For those wanting a clean, blank top - this update probably won't be what you're looking for. But I'm excited to share this final engraving, as I now can confidently say I've found the one that clicked for me. I'd like to thank Shannie again for helping on this project, her critique and advice were invaluable to putting this engraving together (and the birds! She drew the birds!). Without her, this board would definitely not be the end-product it is today.




The engraving is a rectangle, as I had originally anticipated. But Shannie's suggestions to make the engraving assymmetrical forced me to come up with a different, more dynamic composition for the clouds. As things neared completion, the idea to 'open' up the rectangle where it meets the sky came to mind. I used Shannie's bird silhouette illustrations at the border, showing them flying free and 'escaping' the box that borders the engraving, figuratively breaking free of the engraving (over the sky). I'm happy with this one. It's cleaner than the previous iterations, it captures the original vision I had, and remains true to the original theme of Cloudline (and Shannie likes it - very important!).

Here's a full image of the top of the board. Keep in mind, it's hard to judge an engraving from renders due to scale - in making this, I would constantly render sized to match a keycap I had in hand, in order to gauge the thickness of the strokes.



Upcoming pre-production prototypes will have Engraving 3, but I've requested for some sheets to be engraved with the final engraving to give myself a physical reference.



I will be taking some time to update the images in the IC to reflect the latest changes.

Offline Ustinj

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | FINAL ENGRAVING ITERATION!
« Reply #310 on: Fri, 30 July 2021, 20:05:53 »
Oh, and as a status update.

Status Update, July 30th, 2021

Still awaiting the pre-production round of prototypes from the manufacturer. Also engraving references mentioned above have been ordered (will be on sheet metal). Prices have not yet been confirmed, GB date not yet confirmed, but I believe these details will be coming soon. 

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | FINAL ENGRAVING ITERATION!
« Reply #311 on: Sat, 31 July 2021, 01:41:06 »
sexy

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | FINAL ENGRAVING ITERATION!
« Reply #312 on: Sat, 31 July 2021, 05:28:14 »
Very nice  :thumb:

Hoping to get one +1 for iso plate

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | FINAL ENGRAVING ITERATION!
« Reply #313 on: Sat, 31 July 2021, 08:36:03 »
I love F13 forevery

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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% F13 WKL TKL | FINAL ENGRAVING ITERATION!
« Reply #314 on: Sat, 31 July 2021, 11:11:35 »
this is lit
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Re: [IC] Cloudline - 88% / F13 WKL TKL
« Reply #315 on: Sat, 31 July 2021, 12:42:06 »
Wait oops I was on the wrong page of comments lol