[IC] GMK Electric (GB LIVE TO 10/6!)

[PotatoTM]

holy **** your back, I have been waiting for this kit for what seems like forever. Super glad you haven't actually given up on it, and really looking forward to what you have planned.

[Durburz]

Love the theme and the colors, so I'll be most likely in.

But I think you should add a resistor novelty key.

[diqkiq]

Can you add power distribution symbols too please? I'm an electrician and it would be cool to have keycaps with symbols that are on the plans

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[D3LTA]

Well, it's been almost 2 years since I last worked on the set... I feel really bad about my inactivity, and now that I'm graduating college (finally) I want to get back into designing key caps.

I'm going to start with finishing up GMK Electric and getting it to production, as I feel this set deserves to be made.

I'm currently looking into what people have been doing for the past couple of years so I can modify my child deals to fit with what is most popular. It seems where I left off back in February of 2018 was pretty solid, and I imagine only a few modifications will need to be made to get to a final design.

Assuming designs are finalized over the next couple months, I imagine the set will enter production late this year. And the plan is still to go with Drop, with perhaps some other distributors as well for those outside the US.

Please, if you have suggestions for the kit, any key cap you want to see included, please let me know in this thread! (and please include your reasoning  )

Can you please modify the Colevrak kit to align with the newer Colevrak+ offering? I believe that the kit from the GMK WoB IC is considered best practice.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102335.0;topicseen

[KEYGEM]

Really like the Forum Novelties

[depletedvespene]

On the latest update, the base kit has an R3 `~ key (between the horizontal Enter and the barred F) that looks completely out of place. I guess it's meant to be an R3 \| key instead?

[depletedvespene]

Also, (I can't believe I'm mentioning this, but this is what this world has come to...) has an extra B key been considered, for Alice keyboards?

[NoNonsensePC]

As  a Computer Engineer, I can back these keycaps!

[CrazyAssMonkey]

Oh my! I'm an electrical engineering major and this is incredible. I love the symbols. My inner EE is hoping for stuff like an Op Amp or maybe some sort of BJT or MOS. 

Edit: I noticed you also asked for reasons, Op Amps and transistors are integral parts of analog electronics and power electronics as well. I also think it would be really cool if letters such as V, I, R and others that have a large meaning in electrical applications where highlighted. Maybe make the lettering blue in that case, or something along those lines.

[Azurewrath]

Please, if you have suggestions for the kit, any key cap you want to see included, please let me know in this thread! (and please include your reasoning  )

The Nordic Kit is missing the Z for R2. The Y for R4 is included for some reason. That would make the Nordic Kit also fully compatible to ISO-DE, the standard german QWERTZ-Layout.

"Cherry sculpted profile (1-2-3-4-4)" is the "normal" one found on the G80-3000 i guess?
Did you decide on the material yet? ABS? PBT? Something else?

If you add the Z i might be in for Base Kit+Nordic.
(Oh and a EU distributor would be great.. having to pay high shipping plus +19% tax ain't no joke..)

[hineybush]

(Oh and a EU distributor would be great.. having to pay high shipping plus +19% tax ain't no joke..)

you realize the EU proxy will add that 19% on regardless right

[konstantin]

(Oh and a EU distributor would be great.. having to pay high shipping plus +19% tax ain't no joke..)

you realize the EU proxy will add that 19% on regardless right

21% actually (assuming MyKeyboard)

[Oblotzky]

(Oh and a EU distributor would be great.. having to pay high shipping plus +19% tax ain't no joke..)

you realize the EU proxy will add that 19% on regardless right

21% actually

depends on the proxy

[Azurewrath]

you realize the EU proxy will add that 19% on regardless right

Of course, the thing is that (at least in Germany) you pay the "Mehrwertsteuer" of 19% on products. But when you import something it's suddenly called "Einfuhrumsatzsteuer" and the sum of everything in that order gets taxed, including the shipping costs.
(And what's even more annoying, it's very likely you'll have to pick up the package from the customs office.. which in my case means a 1h drive and having to wait in line for ages, followed by explaining what the hell i ordered to a 60 year old bureaucrat that could easily be replaced by a chimp.)

[konstantin]

depends on the proxy

Hence why “assuming MyKeyboard”. Guess you managed to post that in the 20 sec it took me to edit that in. Nice.

[catbus]

Any chance of adding an R2 1u Tab and R3 1u caps(or ctrl)?

Its all that's missing to fill my preonic 

[equalunique]

Wow! There are so many niche kits here. I automatically go for anything with Colemak/Dvorak kit, but DAMN there is a lot more to this set.

[sevenseacat]

It came back from the dead! I'm in for Colemak and a bunch of other kits :thumbsup:

[MdotMaxson]

I think I can totally get by with the novelties and ergo and skip the base kit which is amaze balls. I’ll iust use some white alphas I already have. Like my homophobics from GMK oblivi r2. And call it good. Thanks.

[konstantin]

I’ll iust use some white alphas I already have. Like my homophobics from GMK oblivi r2. And call it good. Thanks.

your what

[CrazyAssMonkey]

I’ll iust use some white alphas I already have. Like my homophobics from GMK oblivi r2. And call it good. Thanks.

your what

I'm happy I was not the only one confused.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

I’ll iust use some white alphas I already have. Like my homophobics from GMK oblivi r2. And call it good. Thanks.

your what

Sounds like one of the sets on keycapsets.com from a few days ago.

I think this would look nice w hagoromo too

[Vala]

Updated the OP with all of the new kits, please give me your feedback through the Google form! I also have some exciting stuff in the pipeline with CandyKeys... so look out for that

[FTR_Beat]

Looks tight.

I think if you add the UN6037 colored standard spacebars to the base kit (like you did for esc and arrows) for consistency, it would be perfect!

Love the novelties!

[Poesjuh]

Any chance for some sexy renders ?

[hkiri]

Updated the OP with all of the new kits, please give me your feedback through the Google form! I also have some exciting stuff in the pipeline with CandyKeys... so look out for that

Thank god NorDe is still planned!

[Vala]

Any chance for some sexy renders ?

For sure! They are coming soon (along with some other cool stuff I have planned with CandyKeys...)

[dvorcol]

More

Well, it's been almost 2 years since I last worked on the set... I feel really bad about my inactivity, and now that I'm graduating college (finally) I want to get back into designing key caps.

I'm going to start with finishing up GMK Electric and getting it to production, as I feel this set deserves to be made.

I'm currently looking into what people have been doing for the past couple of years so I can modify my child deals to fit with what is most popular. It seems where I left off back in February of 2018 was pretty solid, and I imagine only a few modifications will need to be made to get to a final design.

Assuming designs are finalized over the next couple months, I imagine the set will enter production late this year. And the plan is still to go with Drop, with perhaps some other distributors as well for those outside the US.

Please, if you have suggestions for the kit, any key cap you want to see included, please let me know in this thread! (and please include your reasoning  )

Can you please modify the Colevrak kit to align with the newer Colevrak+ offering? I believe that the kit from the GMK WoB IC is considered best practice.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102335.0;topicseen

I second D3LTA's suggestion.  Please add the group of keycaps on the right to make a full Colevrak+ kit.



More details are posted here for anyone interested.

[phedd]

Maybe Alt Gr in the Nordekit?

Is it just me or is Alt Gr becoming more and more neglected? Really happy about it right now actually considering my economics, meaning very few kits are even interesting for me. But worried about the trend in general.

[Vala]

Updated the kits with some of the suggestions from this thread & the form (thank you to everyone who filled it out, it was super helpful!)

Change list:
- Moved 6.25u blue spacebar to base kit
- Added base color 6u spacebars to spacebar kit
- Upgraded Colevrak to Colevrak+
- Added 1.25u and 1.5u "Alt Gr" keys to Norde
- Added R4 1.5u and 1u novelties to novelties kit

[FTR_Beat]

Looks tight.

I think if you add the UN6037 colored standard spacebars to the base kit (like you did for esc and arrows) for consistency, it would be perfect!

Love the novelties!

Great! Thanks for including this one into the update.

When is the GB planned for again? =)

[Tyson]

Updated the kits with some of the suggestions from this thread & the form (thank you to everyone who filled it out, it was super helpful!)

Change list:
- Moved 6.25u blue spacebar to base kit
- Added base color 6u spacebars to spacebar kit
- Upgraded Colevrak to Colevrak+
- Added 1.25u and 1.5u "Alt Gr" keys to Norde
- Added R4 1.5u and 1u novelties to novelties kit

Sounds awesome! Any word on vendors for this set?

[dallman5]

I've been following this IC since it was launched and I'm so glad to see that it is finally going to happen! 

[Vala]

Looks tight.

I think if you add the UN6037 colored standard spacebars to the base kit (like you did for esc and arrows) for consistency, it would be perfect!

Love the novelties!

Great! Thanks for including this one into the update.

When is the GB planned for again? =)

Hopefully in 2020. That's about all we can hope for currently. Seems like GMK is quite back logged.

Sounds awesome! Any word on vendors for this set?

I was going to wait until kits were finalized to approach more vendors, so they should be decided soon. I think that the kits are pretty much complete at this point, so ill give it a few more days to see if anybody has any final suggestions.

[FTR_Beat]

Since you are still taking suggestions... =)

How about adding an Electric blue Modifier kit?

I find the UN6037 pretty unique an popping! That could be cool.

[Vala]

Since you are still taking suggestions... =)

How about adding an Electric blue Modifier kit?

I find the UN6037 pretty unique an popping! That could be cool.

I tested this out, and personally I think the dark gray is necessary to balance out the look of the set. With all blue modifiers it looks too light overall.

[konstantin]

Hey, could you add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65%/75% users and change the R4 \| ISO key to <> so that there isn't a duplicate legend (ISO people really seem to dislike this)?

I also think you should change the Scroll Lock legend to Scroll, Num Lock legend to Num, and stepped Caps Lock legend to Caps, for consistency.

[Vala]

Hey, could you add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65%/75% users and change the R4 \| ISO key to <> so that there isn't a duplicate legend (ISO people really seem to dislike this)?

I also think you should change the Scroll Lock legend to Scroll, Num Lock legend to Num, and stepped Caps Lock legend to Caps, for consistency.

Thanks for the suggestions! I will add the R3 pgup and pgdn, and update the double-lined legends as well. However, I'm not sure what you mean about the ISO key update. All GMK kits I see use the duplicate \| key.

[Vala]

New update in OP! Let me know what you think of the desk mat design

[CrazyAssMonkey]

New update in OP! Let me know what you think of the desk mat design

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My electrical engineering bits are tingling.  :p

[LightningXI]

New update in OP! Let me know what you think of the desk mat design

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For the colors of the set being not so loud, I think the deskmat could be a lot more subtle, and I find it way too busy (even as an EE).

[depletedvespene]

Hey, could you add R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65%/75% users and change the R4 \| ISO key to <> so that there isn't a duplicate legend (ISO people really seem to dislike this)?

I also think you should change the Scroll Lock legend to Scroll, Num Lock legend to Num, and stepped Caps Lock legend to Caps, for consistency.

Thanks for the suggestions! I will add the R3 pgup and pgdn, and update the double-lined legends as well. However, I'm not sure what you mean about the ISO key update. All GMK kits I see use the duplicate \| key.

As the kit stands now, it has both R3 \| and R4 \| (this is called "PC style"). Konstantin is suggesting that you use R3 \| and R4 <>. Either option is fine, but the latter is preferred because it avoids having a "duplicated key" in the keyboard.

See http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Why-Do-Keycap-Sets-have-so-many-Copies-of-the-Backslash-Pipe-Key/#row4yes for more information on this.

[konstantin]

Thanks for the suggestions! I will add the R3 pgup and pgdn, and update the double-lined legends as well. However, I'm not sure what you mean about the ISO key update. All GMK kits I see use the duplicate \| key.

Sweet, glad to hear that.

As for the ISO keys, people have been complaining about the duplicate legends in those sets. It's better not to do it that way. Most sets actually use R3 #~, R4 \|, which is a bit better since there's no duplication, but it's still not great since it's an incomplete set of keys pulled out of ISO-UK (not that there's anything wrong with ISO-UK, it's just not a consistent way of going about things).

R3 \|, R4 <> is the best solution for basic ISO support because it:

• avoids duplicate legends;
• is a complete set, in the sense that it covers at least one layout^† fully;
• covers many layouts partially (more than 13^†, whereas R3 #~, R4 \| covers around 3^‡);
• allows for the best partial coverage achievable with just 4 keys, in terms of approximate number of ISO users: 49%^† for R3 \|, R4 <>, vs 34%^‡ for R3 #~, R4 \|;
• is more “neutral”, since \| stays next to the Enter key, just switches rows from R2 to R3 due to the different shape of the Enter key.

^† R3 \|, R4 <> covers US ISO fully (4 keys), and the following layouts partially (3 keys): DE, DK, IS, FO, NO, SE/FI, EE, FR, BE, IT, PT, ES, AR/BO/CL/CO/EC/PY/PE/UY/VE. This accounts for 244 out of 503 votes from ISO-using countries (not counting US ISO), or 49%, but likely more since some of the layouts in this list fell under the Other category in the survey.
^‡ R3 #~, R4 \| covers the following layouts partially (3 keys): UK/IE, BR, MT. This accounts for 173 out of 503 votes from ISO-using countries, or 34%.
Layout info taken from farah.cl.
Numbers based on 2020 r/mk Megasurvey results.


Edit 2020-05-24: Updated numbers, please read this

[ebastler]

I can't believe somebody made a set with 1.5u shift! Awesome!
And a really pretty one, too.

May I ask why you have 2 1.5u and 2 1.25u alt-gr each? Haven't seen more than one per keeb so far.

[oldcat]

New update in OP! Let me know what you think of the desk mat design

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Design is hot!

[Vala]

My electrical engineering bits are tingling. 

I'm glad 

Design is hot!

Thank you!

For the colors of the set being not so loud, I think the deskmat could be a lot more subtle, and I find it way too busy (even as an EE).

That is totally understandable, as I was designing it I was going back and forth to whether I should leave empty space or fill the entire mat. Would you (and anybody else reading this) be interested in a "toned-down" version of the desk-mat? If so I could probably throw that together.

I can't believe somebody made a set with 1.5u shift! Awesome!
And a really pretty one, too.

May I ask why you have 2 1.5u and 2 1.25u alt-gr each? Haven't seen more than one per keeb so far.

Thanks for pointing that out, it is fixed now. Also, may I ask what you use the 1.5u shift for?


Also, thank you @konstantin and @depletedvespene for the explanation behind the duplicate key, I replaced it with the > < key as you guys requested!


And finally, I created two ISO enter novelties, and am curious what people think.




(oh yeah, I also removed the duplicate Alt Gr keys from Norde)

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Good use of space on the ISO keys.
Dumb question. GMK Ursa had an ISO kit that...handily made MOQ 100! on the back of Paddington on the ISO enter, as Paddington was both unique to that child kit and also was a good icon for the ISO enter crowd. Is there any electrical symbol/theme that’s limited to or more prevalent in the EU?

[Vala]

Good use of space on the ISO keys.
Dumb question. GMK Ursa had an ISO kit that...handily made MOQ 100! on the back of Paddington on the ISO enter, as Paddington was both unique to that child kit and also was a good icon for the ISO enter crowd. Is there any electrical symbol/theme that’s limited to or more prevalent in the EU?

Good point, if somebody has some idea that would make it more unique to Europe in some way that would be great!

[konstantin]

Good use of space on the ISO keys.
Dumb question. GMK Ursa had an ISO kit that...handily made MOQ 100! on the back of Paddington on the ISO enter, as Paddington was both unique to that child kit and also was a good icon for the ISO enter crowd. Is there any electrical symbol/theme that’s limited to or more prevalent in the EU?

Good point, if somebody has some idea that would make it more unique to Europe in some way that would be great!

As you may be aware, there are some differences between the North American (NEMA) and European (IEC) symbol conventions for passive components.



However, in practice the difference isn't that great, the two conventions are often mixed in schematics (especially for resistors), and many European engineers prefer to use the NA symbols (and vice-versa in some cases). A more detailed comparison chart is available here.

However, I don't think any of these symbols are as cool as Ursa's Paddington Bear novelty, so how about using a more memorable symbol, like, say, a three-phase transformer? As a Nikola Tesla fan, this would be very cool to see.



Or how about a full bridge rectifier? I'm sure there are some ElectroBOOM fans out here.



Another personal favorite of mine is the Wheatstone bridge.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Konstantin that’s amazing

I bought the Is0 1 key board for ISO keycaps to use my Rolling Bones Iso enter, but the full bridge rectifier or another space filling design might take precedence.

Euro folks should pick tho.