Looks pretty neat! What's the price like?
Looks cool, definitely interested.
I've always wanted a keyboard with a connector like that!!
Looks really nice and EVE is a great manufacturer.
I was curious if its QMK compatible at all?
I stumbled upon this while browsing pics on the zFrontier website yesterday. Nice USB connector :cool:
Will a complete cable be provided or only the connector so we can (make our own or) have someone else make it?
No brass or stainless steel plates? Mira and Moon GBs offered them.
I've always wanted a keyboard with a connector like that!!
Looks really nice and EVE is a great manufacturer.
I was curious if its QMK compatible at all?
Like the previous Evil 90 board, it's a Windows-only firmware. Afaik not QMK compat unless you want to write it yourself. :)
I stumbled upon this while browsing pics on the zFrontier website yesterday. Nice USB connector :cool:
Will a complete cable be provided or only the connector so we can (make our own or) have someone else make it?
No brass or stainless steel plates? Mira and Moon GBs offered them.
I've always wanted a keyboard with a connector like that!!
Looks really nice and EVE is a great manufacturer.
I was curious if its QMK compatible at all?
Like the previous Evil 90 board, it's a Windows-only firmware. Afaik not QMK compat unless you want to write it yourself. :)
I was asking for QMK compat not if there was QMK firmware lol. Looks like he answered my question and from a quick google search it seems that it's doable using ChibiOS/QMK.
I've always wanted a keyboard with a connector like that!!
Looks really nice and EVE is a great manufacturer.
I was curious if its QMK compatible at all?
Like the previous Evil 90 board, it's a Windows-only firmware. Afaik not QMK compat unless you want to write it yourself. :)
I was asking for QMK compat not if there was QMK firmware lol. Looks like he answered my question and from a quick google search it seems that it's doable using ChibiOS/QMK.
QMK is an open sourced framework. That means you can modify it to support any boards as long as you invest your time on it.
I understand that many people are familiar with QMK and bootmapper and are lazy to learn new softwares, but our software is very easy to use and support almost every function you wish on it.
Looks nice!
Is the firmware open source?
We developed our own firmware such that we can add features freely. The led modes in the current version of firmware are not supported by either QMK or bootmapper client.Don‘t get me wrong, but you could easily add new features with QMK. QMK doesn‘t prevent you from adding new features, in fact you‘d not only be the only one working on it, but also have other people on board.
I've always wanted a keyboard with a connector like that!!
Looks really nice and EVE is a great manufacturer.
I was curious if its QMK compatible at all?
Like the previous Evil 90 board, it's a Windows-only firmware. Afaik not QMK compat unless you want to write it yourself. :)
I was asking for QMK compat not if there was QMK firmware lol. Looks like he answered my question and from a quick google search it seems that it's doable using ChibiOS/QMK.
I understand that many people are familiar with QMK and bootmapper and are lazy to learn new softwares, but our software is very easy to use and support almost every function you wish on it.
That's true, you can make QMK support anything because it's open sourced. However, there is currently built in support for some ARM chips by leveraging chibiOS. Both require work but if the chips are supported, then there is less work.
I like it, wish there were more TKL customs.
is the nameplate customizable? not keeen on the design of that aspect, but the rest looks very nice.
2. The software will only be used for re-programming the board. You can use the board on every OS without the software.
3. We ‘reinvent the wheel’ not for saving money or avoiding troubles. I can design a QMK PCB within one hour. We chose to make hard efforts for providing something that can't be provided by QMK. We value our efforts.
4. This is a TKL board. The firmware is not that important imo.
2. Well I sure hope it works on other operating systems...
2+3. By reinventing the wheel, you've made using your product more inconvenient for a large population of the forum.
4. Annnnnndddd that reflects the quality of your firmware.
Board is cool as all hell, I just feel like these concerns should be respectfully raised. That being said, I totally understand the desire to make something entirely your own. It's worlds better than something I could come up with.
How about NO name plate? is that an option?
That's true, you can make QMK support anything because it's open sourced. However, there is currently built in support for some ARM chips by leveraging chibiOS. Both require work but if the chips are supported, then there is less work.
Yes, I've looked at that part of codes last year in the TMK project but have never used it. Actually there're two smt32 chips on our PCB, one scans the matrix, another one controls the LEDs. I think it might be not too difficult to just run QMK on this PCB, but it will take a lot of efforts on enabling the LED modes we implemented in our firmware.
We can share the schematic diagram if anyone really want to port QMK.
3. I can design a QMK PCB within one hour.
So far we have 48 responses in the IC form.
The most requested colors are white and blue.
Some other suggestions proposed by more than 2 people include 1) nameplate 2) brass plate 3) QMK or bootmapper 4) ISO layout
1) The factory has confirmed they can make customized nameplates. I haven't got the quote tho.
2) Brass plate will be an option with a MOQ.
3) I don't agree with you but I'll try to port QMK. I haven't tried this before so it's not guaranteed to success. Bootmapper won't be possible.
4) TBD
If you're interested in this board and haven't filled int the form, please do fill in the form and tell us what's your suggestions.
This is our project but the board will be yours. We won't make everyone satisfied but we're try to do our best.
taobaoSo far we have 48 responses in the IC form.
The most requested colors are white and blue.
Some other suggestions proposed by more than 2 people include 1) nameplate 2) brass plate 3) QMK or bootmapper 4) ISO layout
1) The factory has confirmed they can make customized nameplates. I haven't got the quote tho.
2) Brass plate will be an option with a MOQ.
3) I don't agree with you but I'll try to port QMK. I haven't tried this before so it's not guaranteed to success. Bootmapper won't be possible.
4) TBD
If you're interested in this board and haven't filled int the form, please do fill in the form and tell us what's your suggestions.
This is our project but the board will be yours. We won't make everyone satisfied but we're try to do our best.
What website was the 1st group buy conducted from? I like to be early for your next project.
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.They are using a STM32F103RCT6 and a STMF103C8T6
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.They are using a STM32F103RCT6 and a STMF103C8T6
I used the board for a while and I found a few things that have to be improved upon with the Firmware and the GUI. I don't have all the time right now but here are a few points;
-The software needs a cluster of all Keys you can rebind the Keys to. Right now you only have a numpad, but if you want to shuffe around stuff for hardware Dvorak for example you need a second keyboard to press the key.
-The software needs to show which key a key was bound to, not just show the standard binding in a different color
-The software needs some English documentation
-The software needs to crash less
-The firmware gets buggy when used with a program that supports HID Lighting commands.
-I have no ****ing idea how layers work (see the documentation bit)
-The PCB in it's current state is way too sensitive. When I checked if it worked it put out different rows of keys depending on what I used to bridge the pads and if I had my feet on the ground or not.
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.
-The software needs a cluster of all Keys you can rebind the Keys to. Right now you only have a numpad, but if you want to shuffe around stuff for hardware Dvorak for example you need a second keyboard to press the key.
-The software needs to show which key a key was bound to, not just show the standard binding in a different color
-The software needs some English documentation
-The software needs to crash less
-The firmware gets buggy when used with a program that supports HID Lighting commands.
-I have no ****ing idea how layers work (see the documentation bit)
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.-The software needs a cluster of all Keys you can rebind the Keys to. Right now you only have a numpad, but if you want to shuffe around stuff for hardware Dvorak for example you need a second keyboard to press the key.
-The software needs to show which key a key was bound to, not just show the standard binding in a different color
-The software needs some English documentation
-The software needs to crash less
-The firmware gets buggy when used with a program that supports HID Lighting commands.
-I have no ****ing idea how layers work (see the documentation bit)
zl_ramiel, this is what I was attempting to reference earlier. Albeit, I was a little rude in my forward comments. I truly admire the attempt to write your own firmware from scratch; it's certainly an impressive project. But various other open source firmwares are tested and proven.
As a personal project, I love it. As a commercial (rather enthusiast) offering, you're limiting your market. At this point, you don't have to sell us on the board itself, you have to sell us on the firmware. If that makes sense?
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.-The software needs a cluster of all Keys you can rebind the Keys to. Right now you only have a numpad, but if you want to shuffe around stuff for hardware Dvorak for example you need a second keyboard to press the key.
-The software needs to show which key a key was bound to, not just show the standard binding in a different color
-The software needs some English documentation
-The software needs to crash less
-The firmware gets buggy when used with a program that supports HID Lighting commands.
-I have no ****ing idea how layers work (see the documentation bit)
zl_ramiel, this is what I was attempting to reference earlier. Albeit, I was a little rude in my forward comments. I truly admire the attempt to write your own firmware from scratch; it's certainly an impressive project. But various other open source firmwares are tested and proven.
As a personal project, I love it. As a commercial (rather enthusiast) offering, you're limiting your market. At this point, you don't have to sell us on the board itself, you have to sell us on the firmware. If that makes sense?
people will buy a board if it's good, regardless of firmware
have you ever tried to program an OTD?
don't get so caught up in what firmware the board is using, i'm sure it's usable enough as it is
if it's too much work to convert to QMK, it might not be worth it at all
QMK is the preferred firmware of the west, but I know a lot of boards in China use non-programmable PCBs. QMK shouldn't be too hard to do if you're using a 32u4.-The software needs a cluster of all Keys you can rebind the Keys to. Right now you only have a numpad, but if you want to shuffe around stuff for hardware Dvorak for example you need a second keyboard to press the key.
-The software needs to show which key a key was bound to, not just show the standard binding in a different color
-The software needs some English documentation
-The software needs to crash less
-The firmware gets buggy when used with a program that supports HID Lighting commands.
-I have no ****ing idea how layers work (see the documentation bit)
zl_ramiel, this is what I was attempting to reference earlier. Albeit, I was a little rude in my forward comments. I truly admire the attempt to write your own firmware from scratch; it's certainly an impressive project. But various other open source firmwares are tested and proven.
As a personal project, I love it. As a commercial (rather enthusiast) offering, you're limiting your market. At this point, you don't have to sell us on the board itself, you have to sell us on the firmware. If that makes sense?
people will buy a board if it's good, regardless of firmware
have you ever tried to program an OTD?
don't get so caught up in what firmware the board is using, i'm sure it's usable enough as it is
if it's too much work to convert to QMK, it might not be worth it at all
I'm not saying to convert to QMK. All the work has been done to this point, why not see it through? But hearing stuff like... 'the software needs to crash less', is never a good sign.
zl_ramiel, this is what I was attempting to reference earlier. Albeit, I was a little rude in my forward comments. I truly admire the attempt to write your own firmware from scratch; it's certainly an impressive project. But various other open source firmwares are tested and proven.
As a personal project, I love it. As a commercial (rather enthusiast) offering, you're limiting your market. At this point, you don't have to sell us on the board itself, you have to sell us on the firmware. If that makes sense?
Not everyone wants to use qmk. All of my boards are Leeku pcbs that are programmable though jiGon which is windows only. These things are not deal breakers.
Let the record stand, I'm not trying to push anyone towards or away from QMK. I just want it recognized that writing your own firmware, let alone using QMK alternatives, is risky. If all the kinks are ironed out, it's as good as gold by my books.
Edit: I feel like this was blown WAY out of proportion. It's a super clean board with a well designed pcb and a creator who cares enough to write his own damn firmware. If that isn't dedication I don't know what is.
Not everyone wants to use qmk. All of my boards are Leeku pcbs that are programmable though jiGon which is windows only. These things are not deal breakers.
some people are picky
i personally don't give a ****, i'll use anything as long as it's not aikon
Hi guys. Thanks for all your words and support.
I'm not mad on most of you who asked for QMK. The only thing made me sad was someone said he doesn’t trust my software because I might be shady. That's really ridiculous to me. I don't even want to comment on this. Let's just ignore it.
I changed the plan to 32u4 PCB mainly because I want to stop the meaningless (imo) discussion for the firmware. I mean, this is a nice board, an 80% board. But now this thread is full of discussions about the firmware. This is stupid.
Now the decision is made, and won't be changed again. I figured it out QMK is not the good to everyone but should be acceptable for most of you. I know some of you don’t have programming background and can’t handle QMK. We’ll provide solutions later and help you with that.
I'm not a topre fan, but I've always wanted an 86u.
I think this with some dark gray or beige caps would be be pretty damn close in terms of looks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vvuIxcj.jpg)
2. Well I sure hope it works on other operating systems...
2+3. By reinventing the wheel, you've made using your product more inconvenient for a large population of the forum.
4. Annnnnndddd that reflects the quality of your firmware.
Board is cool as all hell, I just feel like these concerns should be respectfully raised. That being said, I totally understand the desire to make something entirely your own. It's worlds better than something I could come up with.
Thank you for the input and comments. I didn't expect our PCB annoys so many people. We had a successful R1 GB and no one complained about the PCB or the firmware. You reminded me to clarify something people may be not clear with.
The PCB works on everything operating system because it works under USB HID protocol. The firmware only works for translating the keystrokes to keycodes. And the key codes are all the same for any operating systems. It has nothing to do with the firmware. Hope it makes sense to you.
Doesn't look too good for my purple vote, might have to go with the classics. Regardlesss of Color though, this is going to look really good.I want a purple one too... worst case gotta roll with grey/silver lul
Is it possible to make the brass weight pink too?
Any chance you are allowing different colored top and bottom pieces of the case when the GB happens?
I can't decide which blue to provide but I got an unique one to show you.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FVu0Ldh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/z69v4gJ.jpg)
This color looks like grey in the dim light but turns to blue in bright light.
I can't decide which blue to provide but I got an unique one to show you.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FVu0Ldh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/z69v4gJ.jpg)
This color looks like grey in the dim light but turns to blue in bright light.
hmm nice, which keyboard is this?
hmm nice, which keyboard is this?
That's another keyboard called Evil90.
hmm nice, which keyboard is this?
That's another keyboard called Evil90.
Is Evil90 coming up next? or has it already run?
I can't decide which blue to provide but I got an unique one to show you.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FVu0Ldh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/z69v4gJ.jpg)
This color looks like grey in the dim light but turns to blue in bright light.
I can't decide which blue to provide but I got an unique one to show you.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FVu0Ldh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/z69v4gJ.jpg)
This color looks like grey in the dim light but turns to blue in bright light.
Will ISO be supported in the end?
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hmm nice, which keyboard is this?
That's another keyboard called Evil90.