Looks like Troubled Minds, I'm sure there will be a good amount of crossover there.
Instead of doing AE accent keys, maybe go with an orange to mimic the 01's actual accents? Though I guess that may invoke a Spyro look instead.
Full purple not for me, something more in line with Troubled Minds with a more Eva theme color palet then I'm sold.
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.
Need pics because that sounds super dope.
This set is going to be dope as ****. Please make it happen cappin! Also, don't forget to add Green Spacebar Kit!
I love the colors! Will there be a hiragana legend without the Latin option? And if so would it be possible to make an icon mod set to go with it?
I love the colors! Will there be a hiragana legend without the Latin option? And if so would it be possible to make an icon mod set to go with it?
Keep in mind that the UK alphas with weeb sublegends don't exist yet, so those will need some molding cost paid for.
Otherwise, +1 for unicolored sets, there needs to be more of them.
This is what I've got for working kits currently
(https://i.imgur.com/RPHreLC.png) (https://i.imgur.com/RPHreLC.png)
Show ImageShow ImageThis is what I've got for working kits currently
(https://i.imgur.com/RPHreLC.png) (https://i.imgur.com/RPHreLC.png)
Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/A1sfDaF.png) (https://i.imgur.com/A1sfDaF.png)
Spacebars Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/vlO5jtL.png) (https://i.imgur.com/vlO5jtL.png)
40% Kit
Mostly looking for feedback on the 40% kit since i don't know much about the layout requirements for smaller boards.
Oh also, while it would be much more of a pipe dream, I think doing transparent purple with the green legends could be really cool, but custom color thus 250 moq.
I would prefer green mods, and potentially a green spacebar in the original kit if you're only doing green accents
Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%
Wait, do you honestly think that? How big is the split space community? I rarely EVER see boards with split space EXCEPT for 40%s.Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%
That’s true, but if you put them in the 40s kit, then all split spacebar users are forced to buy the more expensive 40s kit just for spacebars.
I’d argue that 40s are more niche than split space.
Wait, do you honestly think that? How big is the split space community? I rarely EVER see boards with split space EXCEPT for 40%s.Looking at this, you'd need both the spacebars kit and the 40% kit to actually cover a 40%
That’s true, but if you put them in the 40s kit, then all split spacebar users are forced to buy the more expensive 40s kit just for spacebars.
I’d argue that 40s are more niche than split space.
Created a new IC form to focus on kit design since we had pretty outstanding colorway support
Form link - https://donutcables.com/gmk-neon-gelatin-evangelism-ic/
Backup link(mostly for mobile) - https://goo.gl/forms/G48DEmhNUjKm4uOT2
Imgur album of current kits - https://imgur.com/a/AvjfB
chuck the R4C stuff into the spacebar kit
aside from that, looks good to me
chuck the R4C stuff into the spacebar kit
aside from that, looks good to me
I've had specific complaints about not having planck spacebars in the 40% kit, so I'll let popularity decide who wins that one.
chuck the R4C stuff into the spacebar kit
aside from that, looks good to me
I've had specific complaints about not having planck spacebars in the 40% kit, so I'll let popularity decide who wins that one.
fair
i'd do it that way so that people are more likely to buy both kits, but i'm kinda weird with kit design
This is one of my favourite sets this year. Is there any ETA when you plan to run this? After GMK forge/happy?
I don't think GMK can do triple shot legends for black japanese, green legends, and purple base.
In any case, I much prefer green legends and green japanese to what was proposed.
With those green and orange mods this went from neato to guess I'm getting another keyset
Comprehensive renders are on the way. Amnesia is doing all the renders himself, and as it turns out there's a bit of a learning curve for both the caps and the unique legends.
I was thinking you could just throw it through kle-render, colour the background, and immediately it'll give you a good idea of the range. You can do a bunch of layouts if you want, but so far no image actually shows all the mods and sparkle in one place, even as a proof of concept.
A the risk of tooting my own trumpet, my layout pic was quite quick to do with a little kle-render and photoshopping but I think it gives you a good idea of what to expect.
Yeah, it's a little limited. Still, showing the colour combos together in the meantime would help show off the design a little.
Good luck with your renders, the samples so far are looking great!
These are the mockups for the various kits at this point in time:
(https://i.imgur.com/QCA1jCe.png) (https://i.imgur.com/QCA1jCe.png)
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
You didn't seem against it when you offered to do renders in return for a set. And it's not like I can tell what he posts on IG since he has me blocked. Besides, a GMK Troubled Minds will no doubt use color matching and appeal to everyone who wants Troubled Minds instead of this set.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
How does this small different set jeopardize a massive MD group buy? Did you happen to read my posts, or did you just jump in at the end?
I love thesiscamper's work, and I will totally buy GMK Troubled Minds if it ever comes to pass (though I'm not a huge fan of the SP colors) and my kira60 is one of my favorite boards, but unless I'm missing something, the only time he ever really posted anything serious was almost 2 years ago. And then like yesterday AFTER we started this IC. And his only mention was that he MIGHT do it and then only after SA TM runs again which itself is likely a few months out. Its totally possible I missed something, but I did try and find any mention of it being a real and/or confirmed thing, but I was never able to find it.
It's also not like anyone of us invented the 4 major tertiary color schemes (the biggest two that most people know are RGB and CMY, the other 2 are Violet, Orange and Spring Green and then Azure, Chartreuse and Rose. Unfortunately because of the particular versions of orange green and purple that are available in GMKs standard color palette, I feel like this is the only green purple orange combination that can really work. I'd love to have the popularity and pull to run a more balanced set with custom color in one of the inversions, but I'm realistic to know the best chance to get a set like this made is standard colors.
This entire set started cause I was talking to donut about some of the green sets I wanted, and the first one wouldnt work now, then I said, what about green and purple, and he wasn't keen, so I sent him a render of the first row of keys and he was into it.I was actually literally considering waiting until my bonus the end of this year and running the entire set out of pocket just so I could have it, so when donut said he would try it, that seemed preferable.
I've been making a LOT of effort to not step on anyones toes. I don't even really want a novelty kit, but people asked, so I have been trying, but anything I come up with is too close to thesis' work and so I scrap it. TBH if he wanted to do novelties and get all the credit and whatnot, I'm fine with that, I of course can't speak for donut, but I don't give 2 ****s about credit. My only goal is to get purple keys with green japanese legends without waiting years to get it. I also want standard colors so it's compatible with my other sets.
Either way though, lets be real here, there is no way this is gonna do even close to the sales a GMK TM would do on MD if it ever ran. And because of that, there is very little chance that it would EVER "jeapardize" TM.
Anyway, I'm really not trying to be inflammatory, so I hope that's not how it seems. I just really like bright keycaps and this is probably my favorite of the 4 major tertiary color schemes (though cmy is also up there).
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.This!
dont sweat it. the worst anyone who's upset about it can do is just not participate in the GB. everything else is just talk talk talk.
dont sweat it. the worst anyone who's upset about it can do is just not participate in the GB. everything else is just talk talk talk.
I'm with sth on this one. I'm all in on this set and I love the breakdown of the new kits!
I don't think the world can have enough NGE keycap sets...
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
You didn't seem against it when you offered to do renders in return for a set. And it's not like I can tell what he posts on IG since he has me blocked. Besides, a GMK Troubled Minds will no doubt use color matching and appeal to everyone who wants Troubled Minds instead of this set.
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
How does this small different set jeopardize a massive MD group buy? Did you happen to read my posts, or did you just jump in at the end?
I love thesiscamper's work, and I will totally buy GMK Troubled Minds if it ever comes to pass (though I'm not a huge fan of the SP colors) and my kira60 is one of my favorite boards, but unless I'm missing something, the only time he ever really posted anything serious was almost 2 years ago. And then like yesterday AFTER we started this IC. And his only mention was that he MIGHT do it and then only after SA TM runs again which itself is likely a few months out. Its totally possible I missed something, but I did try and find any mention of it being a real and/or confirmed thing, but I was never able to find it.
It's also not like anyone of us invented the 4 major tertiary color schemes (the biggest two that most people know are RGB and CMY, the other 2 are Violet, Orange and Spring Green and then Azure, Chartreuse and Rose. Unfortunately because of the particular versions of orange green and purple that are available in GMKs standard color palette, I feel like this is the only green purple orange combination that can really work. I'd love to have the popularity and pull to run a more balanced set with custom color in one of the inversions, but I'm realistic to know the best chance to get a set like this made is standard colors.
This entire set started cause I was talking to donut about some of the green sets I wanted, and the first one wouldnt work now, then I said, what about green and purple, and he wasn't keen, so I sent him a render of the first row of keys and he was into it.I was actually literally considering waiting until my bonus the end of this year and running the entire set out of pocket just so I could have it, so when donut said he would try it, that seemed preferable.
I've been making a LOT of effort to not step on anyones toes. I don't even really want a novelty kit, but people asked, so I have been trying, but anything I come up with is too close to thesis' work and so I scrap it. TBH if he wanted to do novelties and get all the credit and whatnot, I'm fine with that, I of course can't speak for donut, but I don't give 2 ****s about credit. My only goal is to get purple keys with green japanese legends without waiting years to get it. I also want standard colors so it's compatible with my other sets.
Either way though, lets be real here, there is no way this is gonna do even close to the sales a GMK TM would do on MD if it ever ran. And because of that, there is very little chance that it would EVER "jeapardize" TM.
Anyway, I'm really not trying to be inflammatory, so I hope that's not how it seems. I just really like bright keycaps and this is probably my favorite of the 4 major tertiary color schemes (though cmy is also up there).
I'm against this set since it jeopardizes a future GMK Troubled Minds run that is already in the works as thesiscamper's past instagram posts have indicated.
How does this small different set jeopardize a massive MD group buy? Did you happen to read my posts, or did you just jump in at the end?
I love thesiscamper's work, and I will totally buy GMK Troubled Minds if it ever comes to pass (though I'm not a huge fan of the SP colors) and my kira60 is one of my favorite boards, but unless I'm missing something, the only time he ever really posted anything serious was almost 2 years ago. And then like yesterday AFTER we started this IC. And his only mention was that he MIGHT do it and then only after SA TM runs again which itself is likely a few months out. Its totally possible I missed something, but I did try and find any mention of it being a real and/or confirmed thing, but I was never able to find it.
It's also not like anyone of us invented the 4 major tertiary color schemes (the biggest two that most people know are RGB and CMY, the other 2 are Violet, Orange and Spring Green and then Azure, Chartreuse and Rose. Unfortunately because of the particular versions of orange green and purple that are available in GMKs standard color palette, I feel like this is the only green purple orange combination that can really work. I'd love to have the popularity and pull to run a more balanced set with custom color in one of the inversions, but I'm realistic to know the best chance to get a set like this made is standard colors.
This entire set started cause I was talking to donut about some of the green sets I wanted, and the first one wouldnt work now, then I said, what about green and purple, and he wasn't keen, so I sent him a render of the first row of keys and he was into it.I was actually literally considering waiting until my bonus the end of this year and running the entire set out of pocket just so I could have it, so when donut said he would try it, that seemed preferable.
I've been making a LOT of effort to not step on anyones toes. I don't even really want a novelty kit, but people asked, so I have been trying, but anything I come up with is too close to thesis' work and so I scrap it. TBH if he wanted to do novelties and get all the credit and whatnot, I'm fine with that, I of course can't speak for donut, but I don't give 2 ****s about credit. My only goal is to get purple keys with green japanese legends without waiting years to get it. I also want standard colors so it's compatible with my other sets.
Either way though, lets be real here, there is no way this is gonna do even close to the sales a GMK TM would do on MD if it ever ran. And because of that, there is very little chance that it would EVER "jeapardize" TM.
Anyway, I'm really not trying to be inflammatory, so I hope that's not how it seems. I just really like bright keycaps and this is probably my favorite of the 4 major tertiary color schemes (though cmy is also up there).
I understand where you are coming from, but wouldn't you say that adding green mods and novelty colors that also happen to be the same as TM is deviating from your original vision a bit much? You say you wanted to make an all green on purple set with weeb legends, yet now we are looking at what looks to be more and more just TM.
Also it is not yet clear if GMK TM will even end up on MD. Sure if it was, it would probably succeed regardless, but if it goes through other vendors that thesis has previously worked with, getting to 250 units again while this ran before will be a challenge.
Instead of doing AE accent keys, maybe go with an orange to mimic the 01's actual accents? Though I guess that may invoke a Spyro look instead.
We are definitely considering orange, have already started testing it too, the problem is when you add 3 colors costs go up. Trying to figure out what the best option is. The green accents keep it cheap.
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That said, Evangelion isn't really the inspiration for me anyway, it's just the first thing people think of. Basically I was talking to donutcat about other sets I want cause I <3 weeb legends, and the one idea wouldnt work cause of current timing, so i suggested purple and green cause I like anything purple and donutcat likes green and the colors go well together imo.
I have also had the colors stuck in my head for a while though, and it's not from Eva, but I haven't quite pinned down what it reminds me of. My old constructicon toys were also the same colors (purple green orange) but I don't think that's it either. I think maybe it's just the horrible 90's colors in general (and it IS a standard Triadic color scheme)
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Now, I don't mind leaning into the eva theme, because it is what people will recognize, but It's not a must have/ deal breaker for me. I'm pretty simple as all i use are 60/65%, so I'm not super hung up on anything, so if people have preference for certain things, certain keys, specific legends or modifiers, etc, just say so.Full purple not for me, something more in line with Troubled Minds with a more Eva theme color palet then I'm sold.
Donutcat prefers the simpler look of mostly purple, it also helps keep costs down, my actual preference is something like this:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401920504027545603/417085465867321345/1234567890-3D_2018-Feb-24_10-26-34PM-000_CustomizedView19684608021.png)
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The question is can it be done cost effectively, is there enough interest for something so loud, etc. If there are tons of people interested in doing it, I'm all for the super loud eye melting sets. I love bright sets and there are already plenty of options for more muted things (i like those too). I mean ****, if there are enough people we could actually do custom colors and get a more saturated green :P. But I think that's wishful thinking really.
The other problem is that gets closer to troubled minds and I don't really wanna step on anyones toes. All I really care about is green weeb legends on purple alphas, ill take whatever other changes people want :P.
I never hid that I wanted orange and green. We ran an IC. People asked for green mods. To stick with the original goals and what donut wanted we stuck with an all purple base and only did green mods as an addon kit. We don't even know if they will hit moq. People ask for novelties so I've tried to make some, I don't really care if they happen as the colors are my goal anyway, not the novelties. If we can't come up with something good and unique, I'm fine with there being no novelties.
But isn't this the whole point of an IC? To adjust your GB to fit what the community wants and where the interest lies?
I never hid that I wanted orange and green. We ran an IC. People asked for green mods. To stick with the original goals and what donut wanted we stuck with an all purple base and only did green mods as an addon kit. We don't even know if they will hit moq. People ask for novelties so I've tried to make some, I don't really care if they happen as the colors are my goal anyway, not the novelties. If we can't come up with something good and unique, I'm fine with there being no novelties.
But isn't this the whole point of an IC? To adjust your GB to fit what the community wants and where the interest lies?
So if I open an IC for a set with beige alphas and dark gray mods, and people ask for orange accents, do I then have a free pass to copy Carbon? Yes IC is about asking for feedback, but you aren't obligated to make every change requested.
listen just give me some unit 01 key set that isn't in a god awful profile please otherwise my board will forever just be on display, SA physically hurts for me to use
Unless thesiscamper has concrete plans to run a non-massdrop GMK TM soon, I don't think there's really a case here.
Unless thesiscamper has concrete plans to run a non-massdrop GMK TM soon, I don't think there's really a case here.
BRB, making GMK Godspeed.
Wow that totally doesn't look like a familiar novelty key from another set
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Wow that totally doesn't look like a familiar novelty key from another set
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Aside from a design of unit 01's face, this is the design that is straight from the anime and about the easiest thing to recognize as being associated with unit 01.
(https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png) (https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png)
We even made the effort to make sure it wasn't the same as anything that currently exists, but there's only so much you can make it different from another design that has the same source material. If you know of other designs that would be as instantly associable with EVA, specifically unit 01, as that design is, maybe let us know so we'll have more to work with.
Then so has your friend thesiscamper :thumb:Wow that totally doesn't look like a familiar novelty key from another set
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Aside from a design of unit 01's face, this is the design that is straight from the anime and about the easiest thing to recognize as being associated with unit 01.
(https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png) (https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png)
We even made the effort to make sure it wasn't the same as anything that currently exists, but there's only so much you can make it different from another design that has the same source material. If you know of other designs that would be as instantly associable with EVA, specifically unit 01, as that design is, maybe let us know so we'll have more to work with.
Congratiolations, you moved from community drama to copyright infringement.
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
Does it? I didn’t see that it was running through MD.
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
Does it? I didn’t see that it was running through MD.
Yeah, it did twice https://www.massdrop.com/buy/troubled-minds-sa-keycap-set
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
Does it? I didn’t see that it was running through MD.
Yeah, it did twice https://www.massdrop.com/buy/troubled-minds-sa-keycap-set
Wow that totally doesn't look like a familiar novelty key from another set
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Aside from a design of unit 01's face, this is the design that is straight from the anime and about the easiest thing to recognize as being associated with unit 01.
(https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png) (https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png)
We even made the effort to make sure it wasn't the same as anything that currently exists, but there's only so much you can make it different from another design that has the same source material. If you know of other designs that would be as instantly associable with EVA, specifically unit 01, as that design is, maybe let us know so we'll have more to work with.
Congratiolations, you moved from community drama to copyright infringement.
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
Does it? I didn’t see that it was running through MD.
Yeah, it did twice https://www.massdrop.com/buy/troubled-minds-sa-keycap-set
If you don’t support the IC don’t thread crap in it. It’s been beaten to death that nobody owns a colorway. There is no need to rehash it right now. If thesis is going to run TM in the future, support his project and not this one. This set, although similar, is different and with a different manufacturer. Please be respectful to the OP and keep discussion constructive.
By the way doesn't this IC belong into Vendor forum like it was done before with other IC threads?
Does it? I didn’t see that it was running through MD.
It's pretty clear from that that this isn't about anything other than automatically defending the clique of popular designers.
I get what donut is doing, since he hasn't really sold anything original on his store and this is to be expected. I expect he will run other colorways other people have done before.Lets see:
I understand the designers attacking him, because donut is a VENDOR who copies colorways. It's not like I didn't want to run GMK Troubled Minds, it's because vendors will say they're interested and then put you on a never-ending queue. donut as a vendor doesn't have that problem, clearly he just chooses whatever colorway he feels like whenever he feels like it as shown from his current ICs and past buys.
I understand the buyers, because they don't care about anything but being able to buy colored plastics that they want and not need.
Really, I try to keep to myself doing my small projects. Just go do whatever you want.
Who said anything about moving it into the MD subforum? Donut Cat seems to be a very active vendor, I feel he has earned his own subforum where all his IC's and GB's could be moved to. Or are you saying this new rule applies to Massdrop related projects alone?
Wow that totally doesn't look like a familiar novelty key from another set
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Aside from a design of unit 01's face, this is the design that is straight from the anime and about the easiest thing to recognize as being associated with unit 01.
(https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png) (https://i.imgur.com/2VId3Hp.png)
We even made the effort to make sure it wasn't the same as anything that currently exists, but there's only so much you can make it different from another design that has the same source material. If you know of other designs that would be as instantly associable with EVA, specifically unit 01, as that design is, maybe let us know so we'll have more to work with.
Congratiolations, you moved from community drama to copyright infringement.
The whole vendor sub-forum thing is stupid for IC. When people visit GH they go into GB's and IC. Hiding IC threads in sub-forums no one visits serve no purpose.
Still want this set. I like the 01 novelties. Maybe add some angel novelties? and ( even tho used in TM) the pulse knife would look really nice on the backspace.
can we get a "i'm so ****ed up" novelty?
can we get a "i'm so ****ed up" novelty?
just a black cap with a little white blob on it
Regarding the ever-emerging 'who owns the rights to a colorway' debate: My opinion is that by no law is any colorway protected, and by law anyone would be able to produce any color combination set ever. However, as a community we should respect our designers and encourage them to keep being creative. If it was agreed upon that any colorway could just be run again by anyone at any time, why would designers want to keep creating original content? What would be the point? It'll just be copied anyways. So the whole color way thing needs to be a gentlemen's agreement, protected by those that participate in the community.
I think an important distinction needs to be made in the community going forward between the different aspects of a keycap set. Troubled minds had significant design effort go into the theme combining the colorway with really good novelties and design. That is what made it earn the reputation it has.
This set does not infringe on that work because the only similarity between it and TM is the combination of Purple/green/orange. Purple/green/orange is not what made TM TM. For another example, what makes nautilus special is not using blue/yellow but the deep ocean theme, the fish, way that light blue on dark blue makes you imagine the different depths of the ocean, etc.
I see there being 2 options moving forward.
1. The set goes back to its original idea which is just green on purple with weeb sublegends with no novelties and nothing extra. It doesn't infringe on TM because it's just purple/green.
2. It branches out of TM territory by cementing itself into the theme of neon genesis evangelion (the show that the name comes from) through added novelties
At least that's my opinion on it.
Regardless of what everyone thinks, the set ultimately can be ran. Out of integrity, running a set that is pretty much GMK Troubled Minds is probably not the best thing to do since Thesiscamper has teased it. The original design with the sub legends and no mods could still do well.
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i was gonna talk some **** but then i thought better of it
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i was gonna talk some **** but then i thought better of it
You mean you DID talk some **** and realized you sounded like a jerk?
One side of this debate is being petty and insulting people and just making general personal attacks.
Let's just remember we are talking about an EXTREMELY common color palette based on color theory. Not some unique color palette that no one else has done before or will do again.
If you wanna have a debate on the MERITS of your arguments, who should own color ways, does saying you might do something later entitle you to said ownership, how different does something have to be before it's NOT just a copy? Etc, then we can have that conversation, but I would really love it if EVERYONE stopped with the personal attacks.
People CAN disagree without hating each other and trying to make the other side look and FEEL bad. You guys are acting like this thread is somehow malicious, as if it was started specifically to attack TM, but no one is actually addressing the arguments being made in the other direction. Generally speaking if you cannot argue your stance on the merits, there are none.
neither Rei or Asuka are best girls.DELET THIS
Some more neat renders from amnesia for all the mad lads here
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGyyiJx.png) (https://i.imgur.com/ZGyyiJx.png)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DSNgq2U.png)
Not only am I losing a lot of respect for many prominent community members, but this thread is quite literally making me dumber. Seriously, this is some petty BS. I'm really starting to hate that I even got involved in this community at all if this is the kinda **** they're gonna squabble over. I thought this hobby was generally participated in by adults, not toddlers.+1
Are the sub legends going to be double shot?
Are the sub legends going to be double shot?
Yep, doubleshot using the molds that Laser and Red Samurai used.
Also will candykeys be a proxy for this set as well? as an european that would be really nice!
ahhhh please icon mods pleeeeaaaase
Oh, is this gonna replace the gmk troubled minds? Or is this separate? Cause those novelties (backspace,...) are bliss.
Also, I didn't care to search, but I'm sure puddsy already said something about this even though he's got nought to do with it ;p
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Idc, just do it, I'm in =)
Although, what about Japanese text mods?
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Idc, just do it, I'm in =)
Although, what about Japanese text mods?
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Don't think those molds exist yet.
At this time I'm not willing to add 150€ to the cost of the set for each mod that would need creating, even if it would be cool. And this set is not in any way, shape, or form associated at all with Troubled Minds, it just so happens that someone thinks that they should be credited as the inventor of green and purple, hence the drama. It's even funnier when you see that their basic colorscheme is the same as a previously run set, making it super hypocritical.Exactly, lol. Someone needs to start policing the police 🤣
Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
It's been stated. Hirigana only sets basically ha e a 0% chance of hitting MOQ, unfortunately.Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
Ah my mistake then, I must have missed that in the previous 4 pages of lengthy comments.
edit: Actually I don't think that has been stated. At least I couldn't find it just now when searching.
It's been stated. Hirigana only sets basically ha e a 0% chance of hitting MOQ, unfortunately.Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
Ah my mistake then, I must have missed that in the previous 4 pages of lengthy comments.
edit: Actually I don't think that has been stated. At least I couldn't find it just now when searching.
It's been stated. Hirigana only sets basically ha e a 0% chance of hitting MOQ, unfortunately.Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
Ah my mistake then, I must have missed that in the previous 4 pages of lengthy comments.
edit: Actually I don't think that has been stated. At least I couldn't find it just now when searching.
Wait... didn't the GMK Laser set have a Hiragana only kit? So, doesn't that mean the molds exist and it hit at least MOQ?
You VASTLY overestimate how many sets this will sell.It's been stated. Hirigana only sets basically ha e a 0% chance of hitting MOQ, unfortunately.Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
Ah my mistake then, I must have missed that in the previous 4 pages of lengthy comments.
edit: Actually I don't think that has been stated. At least I couldn't find it just now when searching.
Wait... didn't the GMK Laser set have a Hiragana only kit? So, doesn't that mean the molds exist and it hit at least MOQ?
dont sweat it. the worst anyone who's upset about it can do is just not participate in the GB. everything else is just talk talk talk.
I'm with sth on this one. I'm all in on this set and I love the breakdown of the new kits!
I don't think the world can have enough NGE keycap sets...
I'd still love to find a set of EVA Noctilucous.
It's been stated. Hirigana only sets basically ha e a 0% chance of hitting MOQ, unfortunately.Pretty sure they've already stated that they won't consider separating latin and japanese characters.
Ah my mistake then, I must have missed that in the previous 4 pages of lengthy comments.
edit: Actually I don't think that has been stated. At least I couldn't find it just now when searching.
Wait... didn't the GMK Laser set have a Hiragana only kit? So, doesn't that mean the molds exist and it hit at least MOQ?
Any images what the novelties will look like?
I believe they're still being designed
Guess what a little bird dropped in my inbox this morning
(https://i.imgur.com/eU0GDj2.png) (https://i.imgur.com/eU0GDj2.png)
And before anyone even says anything about the blanks in the novelties kit, those are placeholders for the WIP designs that amnesia is putting a ****ton of effort into so that they're great.
Guess what a little bird dropped in my inbox this morning
(https://i.imgur.com/eU0GDj2.png) (https://i.imgur.com/eU0GDj2.png)
And before anyone even says anything about the blanks in the novelties kit, those are placeholders for the WIP designs that amnesia is putting a ****ton of effort into so that they're great.
Is the label wrong on the spacebars? Because right now its showing double off-center green and double center purple.
Would it be possible to get the tertiary sublegends that Serika will be offering on its Hiragana kit?
We'd have to wait for Serika production to be completely finished to do that, and I don't care to do that. Additionally, I don't care about those new legends at all. The majority of them are just putting the same legend on the cap twice(15 new molds, out of that only 6 of them are actually doing anything other than copying the sublegend that's already there) and the consistency of these new legends is laughable. You've got 5 keys in the numrow that don't have the new legends added while the other do, only 2 of the alpha/letter keys have new legends added, and then ;:, '", `~, -_, =+ and \| don't have new sublegends while the other alpha/symbols do. I see it as just an attempt to make that particular set of weeb sublegends more unique now that weeb sublegends are taking off.
These colors scream Devastator and the decepticons to me. I'd love a "windows" key with the decepticon logo.
These colors scream Devastator and the decepticons to me. I'd love a "windows" key with the decepticon logo.
I don't fee like getting a C&D from Hasbro :P
And that set was created by someone with a LOT influence, so i don't think donut and amnesia would have nearly as easy of a time.These colors scream Devastator and the decepticons to me. I'd love a "windows" key with the decepticon logo.
I don't fee like getting a C&D from Hasbro
if you ran this on massdrop, they could probably license it (see: the scrabble keyboard that... somebody wanted?)
You know, at first I wasn't really interested but after seeing your mockups on Deskthority I actually like it more than I expected. Depending on final price I would likely be interested in the set.
Figured I'd post these cause they look aweome
(https://i.imgur.com/f7LBrN7.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/f7LBrN7.jpg)
You know, at first I wasn't really interested but after seeing your mockups on Deskthority I actually like it more than I expected. Depending on final price I would likely be interested in the set.
Will it be
Back
Space
or Backspace
?
Will it be
Back
Space
or Backspace
?
Hoping for Backspace since it should fit, but I haven't looked to see if it actually worked for other sets.
I don't fee like getting a C&D from Hasbro :P
For now we're trying to make novelties for the set that feel right for the inspiration and avoid any issues from anyone that actually has any sort of claim into what we're doing, legal or otherwise.
I don't fee like getting a C&D from Hasbro :PFor now we're trying to make novelties for the set that feel right for the inspiration and avoid any issues from anyone that actually has any sort of claim into what we're doing, legal or otherwise.
Fair enough. Still digging it, I'll just have carve a Decepticon logo into a key :)
I don't fee like getting a C&D from Hasbro :PFor now we're trying to make novelties for the set that feel right for the inspiration and avoid any issues from anyone that actually has any sort of claim into what we're doing, legal or otherwise.
Fair enough. Still digging it, I'll just have carve a Decepticon logo into a key :)
Lol. Me too... me too... I wish it was more doable. But hasbro has stacks of lawyers.
It’s much more what I think of when I see the colors too.
I've noticed this with the GMK Laser renders, and I'm noticing it again here with the GMK renders that you have.... The G is spurred. Is that really going to be the case? I like it a lot more than the normal G that GMK uses. Can you confirm this Donut?
Have you tried to contact them and ask for permission, simular to the lambda symbol from valve for carbon.
wow, these novelties are some half-ass ****... seriously hope this is a wip or an early april fools joke
wow, these novelties are some half-ass ****... seriously hope this is a wip or an early april fools joke
wow, these novelties are some half-ass ****... seriously hope this is a wip or an early april fools joke
They're placeholder text indicating what novelty is going to go there, if you scroll through the last 2(3?) pages of the thread you'll see some actual designs
wow, these novelties are some half-ass ****... seriously hope this is a wip or an early april fools joke
They're placeholder text indicating what novelty is going to go there, if you scroll through the last 2(3?) pages of the thread you'll see some actual designs
yeah, I was also talking about those designs...
again, the gaijin alphas available separate too would be cool... then I could just get those and mix and match with upcoming gmk troubled minds...
That is not the final novelty... EVA1 is merely a placeholder for a future design.
Maybe should keep those blank for future mockups just to avoid confusion
i prefer the troubled mind cw to this...feels like a bland knock off...i am not interested...and usually i don't reply to ic's i am not interested in...but i have recently learned the folly of my ways...so i am on a quest to make known my eval of interest for all ic's whether for or against since op's can't tell whether or not they are reaching the appropriate amount of interest with out knowing the actual amount of non interest
i prefer the troubled mind cw to this...feels like a bland knock off...i am not interested...and usually i don't reply to ic's i am not interested in...but i have recently learned the folly of my ways...so i am on a quest to make known my eval of interest for all ic's whether for or against since op's can't tell whether or not they are reaching the appropriate amount of interest with out knowing the actual amount of non interest
I agree with this statement if you take into account the green modifier kit.
The standalone purple kit is what I think looks awesome and what I am in for.
The community will decide if this is flying too close to the sun in terms of any existing CW or if indeed the demand for a purple base kit is enough for MOQ.
Either way, great job on this kit, I think it looks awesome and am happy that it will benefit from the Laser molds.
Not trying to discount your opinion or you weighing in on the IC.
I have no plans for troubled minds or mitolet or whatever similar purple and green colored sets, but this render alone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MhsWrHK.jpg)
makes me want this one.
OP, have you considered JTK instead of GMK? Seems like this set is more for the purposes of the colorway over theme anyways.
I have no plans for troubled minds or mitolet or whatever similar purple and green colored sets, but this render alone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MhsWrHK.jpg)
makes me want this one.
40% kit: it's a little weird to offer both R2 Tab and Esc but only have an R3 Tab. Should there be both R3 tab and esc? The default planck layout has R2 Tab and R3 Esc, but looking at staggered 40% boards like the Minivan, R2 tab or esc seem to be equally common.I'm pretty sure the only human alive that uses R2 tab on 40% is Jack Humbert, who created the layout.
40% kit: it's a little weird to offer both R2 Tab and Esc but only have an R3 Tab. Should there be both R3 tab and esc? The default planck layout has R2 Tab and R3 Esc, but looking at staggered 40% boards like the Minivan, R2 tab or esc seem to be equally common.I'm pretty sure the only human alive that uses R2 tab on 40% is Jack Humbert, who created the layout.
I dropped $300+ on the holy grail of Eva sets and will have to back out. Wishing you all the luck and will advertise the **** out of this set to weeb friends when it launches.
I dropped $300+ on the holy grail of Eva sets and will have to back out. Wishing you all the luck and will advertise the **** out of this set to weeb friends when it launches.
enjoy your good feeling of oemness.
Update 5/20/18
Setting a halfway firm launch date of late July for launching this. Should be a nice break from purple between now and then and be the nice break the set needs to get all the support it can.
I will break sh*t if this set does not go through, either that or I'll take out a loan just to fulfill the MOQ.Well, username checks out :shrug:
I know this is sort of late in the game, but I'd really love to see some black keys in the set. While EVA 01 is heavily purple and green, the other biggest portion of the mech's body is black.
I do not have specific kit modifications to suggest at this very moment but I wanted to get my thoughts down before it slips my mind and I'm kicking myself in a few months. I'll play around with some stuff and come back with an idea.
Edit: Actually, I think inverting some (if not all) of the orange keys would take care of this quite nicely.
I know this is sort of late in the game, but I'd really love to see some black keys in the set. While EVA 01 is heavily purple and green, the other biggest portion of the mech's body is black.
I do not have specific kit modifications to suggest at this very moment but I wanted to get my thoughts down before it slips my mind and I'm kicking myself in a few months. I'll play around with some stuff and come back with an idea.
Edit: Actually, I think inverting some (if not all) of the orange keys would take care of this quite nicely.
Well son of a gun. That's what's been missing all this time from these unit 01 keysets. The alternative option would be to get some black cherry blanks and strategically place them where necessary, but I love the idea of including it in the original set.
I know this is sort of late in the game, but I'd really love to see some black keys in the set. While EVA 01 is heavily purple and green, the other biggest portion of the mech's body is black.
I do not have specific kit modifications to suggest at this very moment but I wanted to get my thoughts down before it slips my mind and I'm kicking myself in a few months. I'll play around with some stuff and come back with an idea.
Edit: Actually, I think inverting some (if not all) of the orange keys would take care of this quite nicely.
Well son of a gun. That's what's been missing all this time from these unit 01 keysets. The alternative option would be to get some black cherry blanks and strategically place them where necessary, but I love the idea of including it in the original set.
I actually did a render kinda like that a while ago:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dzY7r2i.jpg)
Couldn't decide if i liked it, but i do liek the idea of black. Main issue is just avoiding increasing costs much/if any. But swapping a few keys might be doable.
Yeah, adding some black into the accents kit could be done. It's already there on the orange keys, so price shouldn't go up much for just a couple of them.
Yeah, adding some black into the accents kit could be done. It's already there on the orange keys, so price shouldn't go up much for just a couple of them.
That sounds awesome. My goal is not to rock the boat, but to have a great Evangelion themed set (looking at you SA Berserk >:D) and the black keys will bring everything together for me.
Great! I really like this set, instant buy (I just hope to have enough cash to buy the green modifiers too).
I would like to see some green on black or purple on black for some novelties :D.Yeah, adding some black into the accents kit could be done. It's already there on the orange keys, so price shouldn't go up much for just a couple of them.
That sounds awesome. My goal is not to rock the boat, but to have a great Evangelion themed set (looking at you SA Berserk >:D) and the black keys will bring everything together for me.
What happened with SAmcdonaldsBerserk? Didn't you like it?
I'm lovin' it mine :)
I know this is sort of late in the game, but I'd really love to see some black keys in the set. While EVA 01 is heavily purple and green, the other biggest portion of the mech's body is black.
I do not have specific kit modifications to suggest at this very moment but I wanted to get my thoughts down before it slips my mind and I'm kicking myself in a few months. I'll play around with some stuff and come back with an idea.
Edit: Actually, I think inverting some (if not all) of the orange keys would take care of this quite nicely.
Well son of a gun. That's what's been missing all this time from these unit 01 keysets. The alternative option would be to get some black cherry blanks and strategically place them where necessary, but I love the idea of including it in the original set.
I actually did a render kinda like that a while ago:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dzY7r2i.jpg)
Couldn't decide if i liked it, but i do liek the idea of black. Main issue is just avoiding increasing costs much/if any. But swapping a few keys might be doable.
New mockup for the novelty kit
(https://i.imgur.com/G4x3l65.png) (https://i.imgur.com/G4x3l65.png)
And we finally have pricing back from GMK, unfortunately it's not what we were really wanting or expecting it to be, so we're seeing what that's about and if we need to adjust kits a little. Spacebar and 40% kits are actually pretty well priced, novelties as well looking at the number of designs and total keys. If we could get the base and ae mods down by $10 or more we'd be happier though.
Love the render, but wouldn't it be better if the spacebar was orange? Since it would make sense based off of where the orange part actually is. The green modifiers are perfect though.Seeing this figure makes me want to agree with you, but I’m instead drawn to the issue with the presence of black on the mech. Juggling colors that are this vibrant is difficult, and overcommitment to anything besides the green or purple could result in a unbalanced palate.
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Hello!
Is this keyset compatible w K70 using just the purple mods? (Excluding the 6.5u spacebar)
Hello!
Is this keyset compatible w K70 using just the purple mods? (Excluding the 6.5u spacebar)
Hi, just hoping to see if there are any updates on this set :) I've pre-order the Kira and really hoping to put this set on it.
Still waiting on this. Hopefully this happens sooner than later.aw man, I would've loved a NERV logo!
Will Alphas without Japanese legends be available? Thank you so much.
Really hope the set takes off soon, getting a purple ca66 for this!
(https://i.imgur.com/ltLLBs1.png) (https://i.imgur.com/ltLLBs1.png)
Awesome renders from amnesia, we can only hope the actual set looks as good as these do
(https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png) (https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png)
Just something to consider. Nothing at all being said or promised, just a thought that someone was willing to put into picture for me.
It's almost like you didn't read what he said, Anaconda.(https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png) (https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png)
Just something to consider. Nothing at all being said or promised, just a thought that someone was willing to put into picture for me.
Changing to SA profile? why. I don't really see the point since troubled minds r2 ran just this year and the colors are almost the same. I would way prefer a eva themed set that i can actually use daily. Also i don't know if anyone has mentioned but i would personally love to see pure hiragana kit like kobe in gmk laser. I understand that it would be a stretch but i would personally love to have both style of alphas.
(https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png) (https://i.imgur.com/kfrbiX5.png)
Just something to consider. Nothing at all being said or promised, just a thought that someone was willing to put into picture for me.
Changing to SA profile? why. I don't really see the point since troubled minds r2 ran just this year and the colors are almost the same. I would way prefer a eva themed set that i can actually use daily. Also i don't know if anyone has mentioned but i would personally love to see pure hiragana kit like kobe in gmk laser. I understand that it would be a stretch but i would personally love to have both style of alphas.
Like I said, that picture doesn't mean that I'm changing the current set, it's just someone offered to make a render of an idea I was spitballing. One thing I've noticed is that I like the color that GMK's renders use more than the actual color DY itself. The render colors are much closer to a lavender or more faded purple that I think looks really good with the strong lime green AE color. As it sits, I may split this idea off into an entirely unrelated set to work on while NGE is on hold due to the absolute GMK market saturation going on, maybe a "Maxkeys Lavender Fields" could be coming sometime soon.
In regards to the alternate alphas idea, like was said it's just not that viable. Already "Gaijin" style alphas are much more popular than the "Kobe" style, and running alternate alphas in sets that aren't established or super popular just leads to a difficult time with hitting MOQ. As it is with this set I'm already considering dropping some of the kits due to the difficulties present in them hitting MOQ and the potential issues down the line from trying to run them anyhow.
Those are a bit light for what I'm looking for, I'd have to look through some color cards to really pinpoint what exactly I'm looking for. For NGE I'm happy with the GMK purple since I think it matches the theme, but for a separate set where I just want to go completely custom I'd want to pin down exactly what I'm looking for.
Concerning DCS, it's a little bit the wait time on SP's end, a little bit the price, and a little bit that people just aren't crazy about the profile.
Those are a bit light for what I'm looking for, I'd have to look through some color cards to really pinpoint what exactly I'm looking for. For NGE I'm happy with the GMK purple since I think it matches the theme, but for a separate set where I just want to go completely custom I'd want to pin down exactly what I'm looking for.
Concerning DCS, it's a little bit the wait time on SP's end, a little bit the price, and a little bit that people just aren't crazy about the profile.
That's something I am confused about. I'm relatively new to this hobby: I thought Cherry profile is DCS.Show Image(http://virtualverbal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Macam-Macam-Profile-Keycaps-Mechanical-Keyboard-02.jpg)
But I can't really find anything (20s of fascinated googling while at work) that gives me concrete measurements on height. GMK is (afaik) using the same equipment to make their keys that Cherry did. SP claims to have modeled its DCS family off of the Cherry caps of the 70s (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/key-cap-family-specs/ (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/key-cap-family-specs/)).
Is there a difference in height (specific rows or overall) between SP DCS and GMK?
Has the gmk saturation shown any signs of clearing up? I just wonder the what the most opportune time to release this looks like. Maybe when sets like Calm Depths are finished? Nothing else besides that and GMK Wavez have caught my eye.Chocolatier, DMG, Carbon, Skidata and there are a few others on hold too. Also nautilus nightmare and the Japanese soccerteam thingy from zambu...
The best time would have been back the beginning of summer when we had hype built up for it, but GMK communication delays ended up getting in the way of that. Right now it's just a waiting game while I sit back and poke kits a little, which is why I thought that perhaps running a similar colorway through Maxkeys would help tide people over who were most excited for the colorway itself and not necessarily the theme/legends/profile. Plus I think a cheaper Maxkeys set in the middle of all these pricey SP sets could be a good thing as well.Please stick with GMK
The best time would have been back the beginning of summer when we had hype built up for it, but GMK communication delays ended up getting in the way of that. Right now it's just a waiting game while I sit back and poke kits a little, which is why I thought that perhaps running a similar colorway through Maxkeys would help tide people over who were most excited for the colorway itself and not necessarily the theme/legends/profile. Plus I think a cheaper Maxkeys set in the middle of all these pricey SP sets could be a good thing as well.Please stick with GMK
I still would absolutely love this set.
Would glady pick up 2 to help MOQ.
Keep those two 1.75 spacebars and I am in 100%
Can we get an English dubbed version of this?Subbed or bust
Can we get an English dubbed version of this?Subbed or bust
Can we get an English dubbed version of this?Subbed or bust
Good man
i just really need that spacebar kit..+1 spacebar kit