Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:08:46
We did say that past round was the final one, but...
Depending on reactions and so many PMs we got, so we decided to make round 2 happen.
And bluetooth PCB option is added this time to make your CA66 more capable to carry around.
Round1 IC thread: https://goo.gl/v6S3H2 (https://goo.gl/v6S3H2)
Round1 GB thread: https://goo.gl/7BN3Bk (https://goo.gl/7BN3Bk)
Some photos of round1↓↓↓
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Case Features:
- 6063 aluminum
- Top case (including HHKB like and WKL like versions)
- Bottom firm plate
- Switch plate (aluminum or brass)
- badge (brass or titanium, no badge for WKL like top case)
- 365mm x 168mm, 1365g with SA keycaps approximately
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- Black pcb, gold pads
- USB C interface
- RGB led animation on right side (can be set as indicators)
- TMK, QMK supporting
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- Wire/wireless, charging when cable is plugged
- A bluetooth switch between Tab and Q
- Battery electricity indicator
- 3 month duration (with a 3000 mAh battery)
- Battery not included (since its caused problems to ship it. you can find one which meets your usage habit)
- alps switches supporting
Other things to be decided such as price, case colors, plate colors, etc.
Please feel free to ask anything. :thumb:
2018.8.2 RGB leds section now raise a bit with a small daughter board. For avoiding light leaking that happened in past rounds.
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:19:52
Post by: dimo on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:21:16
bluetooth and alps support is huge and excited to see if there will be new color options! good luck
Post by: beekey on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:38:14
Post by: farfar on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:43:55
Any estimate date for when this GB will run?
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:54:40
Post by: kitty on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:58:01
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 01 July 2018, 04:59:38
i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless+1 for the usb port change
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 01 July 2018, 05:04:18
Post by: tikkaman on Sun, 01 July 2018, 05:05:39
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 05:15:29
Right when I thought I reached a good amount of boards.
bluetooth and alps support is huge and excited to see if there will be new color options! good luck
Cheers! :thumb:
Probably gonna have to buy this, just love how it looks.
Any estimate date for when this GB will run?
No, but not going to make you wait too long. ;D
i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless+1 for the usb port change
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
Considered that before, but we decided not to ruin the perfect rounded edge.
I have a ca66 from the China buy. Would want to buy just the Bluetooth PCB if possible? I hope it will fit in the old case :)
Yes. :D
So glad to have another chance at getting this board! Any chance that the non-bluetooth pcb would support alps?
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Will think about that. ;)
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 01 July 2018, 05:23:18
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Post by: Vizir on Sun, 01 July 2018, 08:11:18
edit: How will the bluetooth on/off switch look? is it a slider which will sit between the tab and q key? also, what about the metal case causing issues with bluetooth transmission?
Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:02:06
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Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:14:34
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Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 01 July 2018, 09:58:50
Edit: here’s a link to more dark red pictures https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2617125#msg2617125 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2617125#msg2617125)
Post by: lumpofunworth on Sun, 01 July 2018, 10:03:44
Post by: nulltorious on Sun, 01 July 2018, 10:08:13
Post by: lumpofunworth on Sun, 01 July 2018, 11:01:57
Also just wanted to see if the PCB issues from the first round will be addressed.
Thanks for round 2, I'm very excited for this!
Post by: GarrettSucks on Sun, 01 July 2018, 11:07:53
i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
The reason is so you can put it over your laptop. If the cable is in the back it will hit the screen.
Post by: Vizir on Sun, 01 July 2018, 11:29:01
This. That is why I am in this GB. The side cable access is critical.i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
The reason is so you can put it over your laptop. If the cable is in the back it will hit the screen.
Post by: dc_in_sf on Sun, 01 July 2018, 12:16:49
Post by: dimo on Sun, 01 July 2018, 12:20:35
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 01 July 2018, 12:42:32
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 01 July 2018, 12:47:04
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 01 July 2018, 12:50:34
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Post by: Lormania on Sun, 01 July 2018, 13:13:29
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 01 July 2018, 13:43:45
KMK Labs.
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 01 July 2018, 14:09:13
i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless+1 for usb port change and white
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
Post by: SBN on Sun, 01 July 2018, 15:08:27
Post by: ringzero on Sun, 01 July 2018, 15:13:29
Post by: _ODIN_ on Sun, 01 July 2018, 15:23:01
Post by: garbo on Sun, 01 July 2018, 15:29:15
Would it be possible to get one of those flexible CF plates?
It would be good to get confirmation on this, but presumably it would (considering that the non-metal plate supposedly makes the BT transmission from the alternative PCB work).
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Sun, 01 July 2018, 15:32:39
Post by: Chigorin on Sun, 01 July 2018, 16:07:37
Post by: ctrl on Sun, 01 July 2018, 16:36:56
Count me in for the new PCB and plate! Programmable LEDs here I come! ;D
Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 01 July 2018, 17:07:15
Post by: revenantjay on Sun, 01 July 2018, 17:09:06
Post by: Tree_ on Sun, 01 July 2018, 17:13:56
Post by: Haaaaaandrew on Sun, 01 July 2018, 17:21:23
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Post by: PhreshPrinceOfChinaTown on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:39:44
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:40:43
Post by: fer.real on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:43:08
Post by: Tarienn on Sun, 01 July 2018, 18:59:02
But yes, I'm in.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 01 July 2018, 19:19:00
Post by: Max_P0 on Sun, 01 July 2018, 19:23:51
Post by: SeedyOne on Sun, 01 July 2018, 20:10:01
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:10:21
I don't plan on getting the Bluetooth option. I hope the prices will be similar to round 1 If they are I'm in (if not I'm probably still in lol).
Also just wanted to see if the PCB issues from the first round will be addressed.
Thanks for round 2, I'm very excited for this!
We are working on it right now. Asked a kind mate to send his flaw PCB to us to have a look. ;)
This. That is why I am in this GB. The side cable access is critical.i would love a matte white colour or matte pink :) but i'm in for the GB regardless
also is it possible to change the design and move the usb port to the top of the board? mostly because it's harder to find nice angled usb cables :O
The reason is so you can put it over your laptop. If the cable is in the back it will hit the screen.
Yeah that's another big reason of it. ;D
A white one would be niceeeeee
Good inquire. That's see if we can do that. :o
Would it be possible to get one of those flexible CF plates?
Not sure. Do you guys like it or want to give it a try? ;D
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:14:44
Post by: catamscott on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:23:26
Post by: SeedyOne on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:23:29
Very happy with my R1 board, in for a WKL option for R2!
Oh that's right...this time I can opt for a badge since last time I didn't :thumb:
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:25:08
why do we have to buy both options? F.e. when choosing the brass plate you have to buy the aluminium one as well
The alu plate was included in price since we looked an aluminum top housing, a bottom plate, a switch plate and a badge as a full kit.
Would plates be Alps+MX or can you choose one or the other? Or maybe make it an option to get either MX, Alps, or Alps+MX. Sometimes those dual-fitment plates can be a pain to work with.
Probably one for MX, and one for Alps. That would be much easier to do.
Yes please! I'm sure the PCB will be a a bit more expensive due to BT but if the pricing remains consistent for the case and plates then count me in.
We'll try to hold old options prices' the same. :thumb:
Got a dark red CA66 with titanium badge in the last round. That was R3 and this IC being for R4, right?
Count me in for the new PCB and plate! Programmable LEDs here I come! ;D
Yeah but would be clear if we just count rounds in GH. :p
I’d be in for dark red with brass
Good choice! :thumb:
I'd be down to buy another one! :thumb: Please add switch top opening to the plate this time around. I'll be ordering two pcbs this time lol
I personally don't love switch opening plate since it might cause your switches crooked when soldering. And not that stable.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:44:09
Any chance we can keep the hot swap socket idea for the BT PCB alive?
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Sorry to say no. The socket does not support mutil-layouts PCB. :-X
Love my R1 and would consider an R2 immediately...I only have one question and that's how far is the range of the Bluetooth? I've been fiending for a BT mechanical I can use for my media center PC and others barely seem to go over 4-5'. I know that's not exactly the intended range but I'd be in immediately if it went far :thumb:
I can't imagine that distance gonna be a problem. ;)
My mate try it in his living room while his PC is in his study. That's probably more than 5 meters.
Post by: SeedyOne on Sun, 01 July 2018, 21:54:03
Love my R1 and would consider an R2 immediately...I only have one question and that's how far is the range of the Bluetooth? I've been fiending for a BT mechanical I can use for my media center PC and others barely seem to go over 4-5'. I know that's not exactly the intended range but I'd be in immediately if it went far :thumb:
I can't imagine that distance gonna be a problem. ;)
My mate try it in his living room while his PC is in his study. That's probably more than 5 meters.
Is that inside a closed aluminum case though? If so, that's GREAT range!
Post by: Bael_Zharon on Sun, 01 July 2018, 22:33:19
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Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 02 July 2018, 00:19:25
If there's a another version in the future, one with no logo, and possibly a larger bottom row (1.5 modifiers, or 1.25+1.25 modifies) - I would love to join too
Post by: Artemie on Mon, 02 July 2018, 00:24:05
Artemie
Post by: beekey on Mon, 02 July 2018, 00:48:28
I rest my hand in the bottom row, and the logo would instantly fill with grease
If there's a another version in the future, one with no logo, and possibly a larger bottom row (1.5 modifiers, or 1.25+1.25 modifies) - I would love to join too
There is a WKL version. None of the example pictures in the original post shows it, but do a google image search, you will find some examples.
Or check the last GB thread.
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 02 July 2018, 00:54:18
I rest my hand in the bottom row, and the logo would instantly fill with grease
If there's a another version in the future, one with no logo, and possibly a larger bottom row (1.5 modifiers, or 1.25+1.25 modifies) - I would love to join too
There is a WKL version. None of the example pictures in the original post shows it, but do a google image search, you will find some examples.
Or check the last GB thread.
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93542.0;attach=186548;image)
Damn it looks good, I wonder if the bottom row supports alternative layouts, a 7U spacebar and 2x modifiers would be ideal
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 02 July 2018, 01:29:46
Is that inside a closed aluminum case though? If so, that's GREAT range!
Definitely. :p
Annnddd I'm in for another one.
Woo thanks for the love. :-*
Hoping for a dark green option
I am thinking about that too, like army green.
Any dimensions for the battery insert? Would like to search what battery options are available on market.
Artemie
There's not a specific position to install the battery. But thanks to the big room of top housing, you can use one with great volume.
Some tape to stick it will do.
I rest my hand in the bottom row, and the logo would instantly fill with grease
If there's a another version in the future, one with no logo, and possibly a larger bottom row (1.5 modifiers, or 1.25+1.25 modifies) - I would love to join too
There is a WKL version. None of the example pictures in the original post shows it, but do a google image search, you will find some examples.
Or check the last GB thread.Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93542.0;attach=186548;image)
Damn it looks good, I wonder if the bottom row supports alternative layouts, a 7U spacebar and 2x modifiers would be ideal
Yes there's a WKL version. Please check out main thread for PCB layout supporting.
Post by: Brammm87 on Mon, 02 July 2018, 02:11:07
Post by: tikkaman on Mon, 02 July 2018, 02:13:13
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Post by: gutsack on Mon, 02 July 2018, 02:27:40
badge (brass or titanium, no badge for WKL like top case)
IIRC, in R1 a few people sent you designs for custom badges for their orders, is that going to be an option for R2?
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 02 July 2018, 02:29:01
Post by: AaronR on Mon, 02 July 2018, 04:02:03
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 02 July 2018, 06:29:01
Champagne might be another great color option
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That's a hard one to make. ;)
I'm definitely ordering another PCB and plate.
Cheers! :thumb:
badge (brass or titanium, no badge for WKL like top case)
IIRC, in R1 a few people sent you designs for custom badges for their orders, is that going to be an option for R2?
Forgot about this one. I'll discuss with my mate.
In for a blue one :thumb:
:p I love that color too.
really happy about another round after seeing one at a local meet up
Looked good in those meetup photos!
Post by: Asbrodeus on Mon, 02 July 2018, 07:09:09
Love my R1 and would consider an R2 immediately...I only have one question and that's how far is the range of the Bluetooth? I've been fiending for a BT mechanical I can use for my media center PC and others barely seem to go over 4-5'. I know that's not exactly the intended range but I'd be in immediately if it went far :thumb:
the most expensive media keyboard :))
Post by: iliketimex on Mon, 02 July 2018, 09:24:16
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 02 July 2018, 12:02:03
Post by: Vizir on Mon, 02 July 2018, 13:12:13
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 13:59:05
Post by: omgkittiesyay on Mon, 02 July 2018, 14:14:36
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:02:33
Post by: lumpofunworth on Mon, 02 July 2018, 16:21:46
I’m also wondering if the Bluetooth PCB is optional? If possible I would opt out and just get a normal wired PCB.
Post by: Tree_ on Mon, 02 July 2018, 17:21:08
If possible I would opt out and just get a normal wired PCB.
Ditto for this, especially if it's cheaper.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 02 July 2018, 20:21:55
the most expensive media keyboard :))
And not heavy. :p
Want. An IBM or NCR industrial gray color would be nice.
NCR looks like a lighter gray?
yea, the dark grey with carbon SA looks amazing!
need to get on this last GB. Gray it is.
Gray is always safe and so compatible.
Please! Please! Confirm that dark red is going to come back?
Sure it will be!
Ok I have a question, I understand that you might not be able to answer this but I’ll try anyway. There is a lot of group buys going on right now, do you have any idea what the time frame looks like for r2? If it’s not planned for some time I could get in on a board now and save for this one. But if it’s happening soon I can just get in on this. I’m fine regardless but this is a must have board for me and I don’t want to buy something else and end up missing this because of that. Thanks!
I’m also wondering if the Bluetooth PCB is optional? If possible I would opt out and just get a normal wired PCB.
Yes it's optional. Don't bother if you just want the normal wire version. :thumb:
Post by: BananaMuffinFrenzy on Mon, 02 July 2018, 20:39:43
Post by: ye_cole on Mon, 02 July 2018, 22:30:20
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 02 July 2018, 22:31:36
if anyone happens to get dark red and SA royalty, lmk cause thats something id rlly wanna see
I plan on doing just that. If you can get Input Club to get a move on with your set I’d very much appreciate it!
Post by: jsfklee524 on Mon, 02 July 2018, 23:00:31
Post by: ye_cole on Tue, 03 July 2018, 00:34:22
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I plan on doing just that. If you can get Input Club to get a move on with your set I’d very much appreciate it!
ill check up with them again!
Post by: otanishock on Tue, 03 July 2018, 02:58:49
Ok I have a question, I understand that you might not be able to answer this but I’ll try anyway. There is a lot of group buys going on right now, do you have any idea what the time frame looks like for r2? If it’s not planned for some time I could get in on a board now and save for this one. But if it’s happening soon I can just get in on this. I’m fine regardless but this is a must have board for me and I don’t want to buy something else and end up missing this because of that. Thanks!
I’m also wondering if the Bluetooth PCB is optional? If possible I would opt out and just get a normal wired PCB.
Same question as well. Would you mind sharing about when you'd plan to run the GB?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 July 2018, 04:54:48
Ok I have a question, I understand that you might not be able to answer this but I’ll try anyway. There is a lot of group buys going on right now, do you have any idea what the time frame looks like for r2? If it’s not planned for some time I could get in on a board now and save for this one. But if it’s happening soon I can just get in on this. I’m fine regardless but this is a must have board for me and I don’t want to buy something else and end up missing this because of that. Thanks!
I’m also wondering if the Bluetooth PCB is optional? If possible I would opt out and just get a normal wired PCB.
Same question as well. Would you mind sharing about when you'd plan to run the GB?
Sorry forgot to answer that.
GB will be ran when some details are confirmed.
Hope we can do it in the end of this month. ;)
Post by: fer.real on Tue, 03 July 2018, 08:58:27
I'm heavily leaning towards the WKL-like layout. In previous rounds there was no option to get a badge with that layout. Will you consider adding a badge to the WKL layout this round?
Also, there was a question in the previous GB about breaking out the unused pins on the Atmega32u4 for modding. Is there any chance those pins will be exposed on the board?
Have any pins been broken out on the PCB for modding?
Wondering if all that space inside the case could be put to good use?
Yes, but you need to mod directly from 32U4.
Post by: vonswoopington on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:02:21
Post by: beekey on Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:20:25
Same here. WKL with badge would be my 1st preference. Hopefully it is possible his round.
Please keep one WKL version without the badge.
Post by: parityb1t on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:07:21
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:11:49
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:30:26
Hi,
I'm heavily leaning towards the WKL-like layout. In previous rounds there was no option to get a badge with that layout. Will you consider adding a badge to the WKL layout this round?
Also, there was a question in the previous GB about breaking out the unused pins on the Atmega32u4 for modding. Is there any chance those pins will be exposed on the board?Have any pins been broken out on the PCB for modding?
Wondering if all that space inside the case could be put to good use?
Yes, but you need to mod directly from 32U4.
We will make some changes for the backlight issue, and yes, we can expose unused pinouts for you guys to play with. :thumb:
Same here. WKL with badge would be my 1st preference. Hopefully it is possible his round.
Please keep one WKL version without the badge.
Yeah we perfer no badge for WKL version. It's weird and no suitable place to put it.
Post by: MisterKnife on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:35:45
Post by: ConflatedPerson on Tue, 03 July 2018, 10:37:45
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:04:10
Also, will it have USB C to C support this time?
Post by: Macflag on Tue, 03 July 2018, 13:16:56
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:07:32
Post by: Asbrodeus on Tue, 03 July 2018, 14:14:49
Post by: kraziekd92 on Tue, 03 July 2018, 20:21:02
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 03 July 2018, 20:59:46
Will the PCB be fixed to use a proper PWM pin to drive the inswitch LEDs? :)
Also, will it have USB C to C support this time?
Haha glad to see you here mate. ;D
Yeah we got a way to solve the inswitch LEDs problem, but I forgot about C to C lol.
Appreciate for reminding me that. :thumb:
Yes! Love the badge logo, love the case design, love the layout, love the colors. Some more unusual muted color options would be cool. For instance RAMA's M-60a had some interesting ideas for the muted mauve color ("Dusk").
I barely convinced myself not to get this the first time, there is no way I can skip round two. That red looks gorgeous but I agree I hope there's some innovative color choices this time!
We'll try! Got some new color options in mind. ;)
Post by: portbaron on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:25:25
Post by: Zeroblade on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:41:16
Post by: Vizir on Tue, 03 July 2018, 23:01:20
So glad there's a round 2. Sucked that I missed the first one.I agree!
Post by: ItsAllen on Wed, 04 July 2018, 01:07:32
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Post by: 112227 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 04:34:22
Post by: realxmlforce on Wed, 04 July 2018, 05:30:02
That would be the 'must get' argument for me.
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Post by: Vizir on Wed, 04 July 2018, 07:04:49
Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.Then you should buy the original which this design is based on: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver/ :)
Post by: Retrospects on Wed, 04 July 2018, 09:55:41
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 04 July 2018, 12:05:45
So glad there's a round 2. Sucked that I missed the first one.
Wow not sure how I missed this the first time.
So glad there's a round 2. Sucked that I missed the first one.I agree!
Don't miss it this time! ;D
Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.
Set them as voice volume functions? ;D
Just to be shure: The BT PCB will officially support QMK?
That would be the 'must get' argument for me.
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We are working on it. Hope it won't take too long.
Post by: Vizir on Wed, 04 July 2018, 12:07:14
Post by: bkim14 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 13:13:02
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:29:15
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 04 July 2018, 17:28:51
Post by: 112227 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 17:42:19
Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.
Set them as voice volume functions? ;D
Damn you. I never thought of that before.
Post by: DePulse on Wed, 04 July 2018, 18:23:55
Post by: kf1246 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 20:57:35
Post by: kf1246 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 00:57:04
Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.Then you should buy the original which this design is based on: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver/ :)
The design is based on the IBM PC Jr revised keyboard, not the IBM 4704 Model 200.
The good news is that you can get the original board for about $15. The bad news it kinda sucks. It's a rubber dome that feels like typing on damp sponges, particularly on the spacebar.
Post by: LVNDSCAPE on Thu, 05 July 2018, 02:41:12
Post by: Brammm87 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 02:58:34
How heavy is the board??Not that heavy. There's no additional weight and it's fairly hollow. I've found that adding a layer of sound dampening foam is sorta required to eliminate the pinging.
Post by: LVNDSCAPE on Thu, 05 July 2018, 03:14:03
How heavy is the board??Not that heavy. There's no additional weight and it's fairly hollow. I've found that adding a layer of sound dampening foam is sorta required to eliminate the pinging.
Considering to go for S-7 if the CA66 aint that heavy.
I wish there is an option to attach a brass weight or something.
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 05 July 2018, 03:15:44
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Post by: Funspoyler on Thu, 05 July 2018, 06:46:03
Post by: Vizir on Thu, 05 July 2018, 08:26:28
The PC Jr is based on the F62 board, after cost cutting and adding arrow keys. Look at the distinctive ledge above the keys, it was so that you could place a pen or pencil there, since the keyboard was intended for the financial services.Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.Then you should buy the original which this design is based on: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver/ :)
The design is based on the IBM PC Jr revised keyboard, not the IBM 4704 Model 200.
The good news is that you can get the original board for about $15. The bad news it kinda sucks. It's a rubber dome that feels like typing on damp sponges, particularly on the spacebar.
And if you want the pcjr like kb, without the arrows and actual good switches, you end up at the F62, the grand daddy of this design.
Post by: Max_P0 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 08:48:41
Post by: lumpofunworth on Thu, 05 July 2018, 13:28:01
will there be option for non blue tooth? and Black colored case ?
If you scroll up a bit he confirmed that non Bluetooth would be an option. Colors are not set but considering the last run and the fact that black is a base color I assume it will be an option.
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Post by: brooklynlou on Thu, 05 July 2018, 14:49:38
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Post by: kf1246 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:15:53
The PC Jr is based on the F62 board, after cost cutting and adding arrow keys. Look at the distinctive ledge above the keys, it was so that you could place a pen or pencil there, since the keyboard was intended for the financial services.Such a great looking board. I just have no use for the arrow keys.Then you should buy the original which this design is based on: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/f62-model-f-keyboard-kishsaver/ :)
The design is based on the IBM PC Jr revised keyboard, not the IBM 4704 Model 200.
The good news is that you can get the original board for about $15. The bad news it kinda sucks. It's a rubber dome that feels like typing on damp sponges, particularly on the spacebar.
And if you want the pcjr like kb, without the arrows and actual good switches, you end up at the F62, the grand daddy of this design.
That's a cool theory and everything, but the original IC explicitly stated it was inspired by the PC Jr keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.0
It's pretty apparent in the design, as well, given that the case style is nearly identical other than the layout.
Also, that shelf was present on every single Model F. That is not a feature exclusive to the kishsaver. Furthermore, it was primarily intended as a stand for quick reference cards for software, hence the vertical notch to the left side of the shelf on some of the earlier boards (notably the Datamaster, Bigfoot, and F122).
Post by: roymt76 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:19:13
Post by: otanishock on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:40:21
Can this hot swap between 3 device. Just like anne pro, logitech k380 ?
I think maybe you are confusing between multi-device and hotswapping here. I don't think that's what being hotswappable means.
Post by: roymt76 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 01:45:17
yeah i mean multi-device function :))Can this hot swap between 3 device. Just like anne pro, logitech k380 ?
I think maybe you are confusing between multi-device and hotswapping here. I don't think that's what being hotswappable means.
sorry for my engrisk :P
Post by: dhung97 on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:21:36
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 06 July 2018, 02:24:10
We'll answer all questions when they are confirmed.
Please give us some time to sort out.
Thanks! :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: Vizir on Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:54:05
That's a cool theory and everything, but the original IC explicitly stated it was inspired by the PC Jr keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.0
It's pretty apparent in the design, as well, given that the case style is nearly identical other than the layout.
Also, that shelf was present on every single Model F. That is not a feature exclusive to the kishsaver. Furthermore, it was primarily intended as a stand for quick reference cards for software, hence the vertical notch to the left side of the shelf on some of the earlier boards (notably the Datamaster, Bigfoot, and F122).
i am not debating what this keyboard was apparently inspired by. the pcjr had a lot of common elements from its predecessors which include model f's and m's. now, the other person said he loved the look, but had no need for the arrow keys, so, i pointed him to the closest keyboard to that which had what he wanted: a quality keyboard with one of the best switches ever designed, and almost similar design - sans arrow keys. the kishsaver is as close as it gets. the designer of this keyboard might have used the pcjr, but the designers of the pcjr used the kishsaver almost certainly. pointing out pcjr, as an alternative, to the person who had no need for the arrow keys would be retarded, wouldn't you think so?
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 06 July 2018, 13:04:43
That's a cool theory and everything, but the original IC explicitly stated it was inspired by the PC Jr keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.0
It's pretty apparent in the design, as well, given that the case style is nearly identical other than the layout.
Also, that shelf was present on every single Model F. That is not a feature exclusive to the kishsaver. Furthermore, it was primarily intended as a stand for quick reference cards for software, hence the vertical notch to the left side of the shelf on some of the earlier boards (notably the Datamaster, Bigfoot, and F122).
i am not debating what this keyboard was apparently inspired by. the pcjr had a lot of common elements from its predecessors which include model f's and m's. now, the other person said he loved the look, but had no need for the arrow keys, so, i pointed him to the closest keyboard to that which had what he wanted: a quality keyboard with one of the best switches ever designed, and almost similar design - sans arrow keys. the kishsaver is as close as it gets. the designer of this keyboard might have used the pcjr, but the designers of the pcjr used the kishsaver almost certainly. pointing out pcjr, as an alternative, to the person who had no need for the arrow keys would be retarded, wouldn't you think so?
oof, yikes. The original guy was just asking for something similar with no arrow keys is now stuck watching two guys argue what board most resembles a CA66... Poor Dude. No need to call anyone retarded man. kf was only trying to help.
Post by: Vizir on Fri, 06 July 2018, 13:17:37
That's a cool theory and everything, but the original IC explicitly stated it was inspired by the PC Jr keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91874.0
It's pretty apparent in the design, as well, given that the case style is nearly identical other than the layout.
Also, that shelf was present on every single Model F. That is not a feature exclusive to the kishsaver. Furthermore, it was primarily intended as a stand for quick reference cards for software, hence the vertical notch to the left side of the shelf on some of the earlier boards (notably the Datamaster, Bigfoot, and F122).
i am not debating what this keyboard was apparently inspired by. the pcjr had a lot of common elements from its predecessors which include model f's and m's. now, the other person said he loved the look, but had no need for the arrow keys, so, i pointed him to the closest keyboard to that which had what he wanted: a quality keyboard with one of the best switches ever designed, and almost similar design - sans arrow keys. the kishsaver is as close as it gets. the designer of this keyboard might have used the pcjr, but the designers of the pcjr used the kishsaver almost certainly. pointing out pcjr, as an alternative, to the person who had no need for the arrow keys would be retarded, wouldn't you think so?
oof, yikes. The original guy was just asking for something similar with no arrow keys is now stuck watching two guys argue what board most resembles a CA66... Poor Dude. No need to call anyone retarded man. kf was only trying to help.
i don't have any beef with kf, i'm just pointing out that he took 1 sentence out of the whole conversation and started making it the main issue. also, i didn't call him retarded, i said, hypothetically, if you were looking for a product without feature-X, wouldn't it be stupid if someone kept mentioning products with feature-X.
anyway, lets keep things on topic -- this GB. i can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
Post by: alisonica on Sat, 07 July 2018, 09:27:37
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Post by: gutsack on Sun, 08 July 2018, 11:43:20
I was in the previous GB. Is there an option to just buy the BT PCB?
Yes, OP confirmed earlier in the thread.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 08 July 2018, 13:37:02
A white CA66?
The silver one already looks close to white.
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Post by: XtReeM1337n355 on Mon, 09 July 2018, 00:43:33
Can people from R1 order just the bluetooth PCB?It was answer somewhere on here, but yes
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Post by: Max_P0 on Mon, 09 July 2018, 01:07:19
A white CA66?
The silver one already looks close to white.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/2dbbf5e0925f8fdc6fa9adf6425bf56b.jpg)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/bed2d60de79ebeb63ad061231dda347f.jpg)
That looks fantastic, although I wish there was a way to lower the plate a bit so the bottoms of the keys are not visible.... 1/8th of an inch...
Post by: artophe on Mon, 09 July 2018, 02:50:50
Post by: Shell058 on Mon, 09 July 2018, 04:30:34
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Mon, 09 July 2018, 11:45:05
Stick some nylon washers between plate and case?A white CA66?
The silver one already looks close to white.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/2dbbf5e0925f8fdc6fa9adf6425bf56b.jpg)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/bed2d60de79ebeb63ad061231dda347f.jpg)
That looks fantastic, although I wish there was a way to lower the plate a bit so the bottoms of the keys are not visible.... 1/8th of an inch...
Post by: bcbishop on Mon, 09 July 2018, 11:56:30
Stick some nylon washers between plate and case?A white CA66?
The silver one already looks close to white.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/2dbbf5e0925f8fdc6fa9adf6425bf56b.jpg)Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/bed2d60de79ebeb63ad061231dda347f.jpg)
That looks fantastic, although I wish there was a way to lower the plate a bit so the bottoms of the keys are not visible.... 1/8th of an inch...
I like this idea. Anybody happen to know what size those screws are?
Post by: hayt on Mon, 09 July 2018, 13:24:03
Not sure if I will enter depending on when the GB happens, we'll see if I can round up the funds.
I may have missed this as I did not browse through all the pages, what will the color options include?
Thx,
hayt
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 09 July 2018, 16:49:55
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 09 July 2018, 16:51:31
Hey there are some reporting that the bottom of the case being quite thin, leaving ca66 susceptible to echoing. Wonder if R2 will have an improved design with a thicker bottom. thank you.
It’s just the nature of the material and space inside of the case. Just use foam to fill it up and dampen the sound. I doubt that the case will receive any refinements at this point.
Post by: Macflag on Mon, 09 July 2018, 18:38:52
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 09 July 2018, 18:39:59
Any news if prices will be the same as R1?
They’re trying to keep it close but probably wouldn’t expect prices until the gb opens.
Post by: Macflag on Mon, 09 July 2018, 18:40:57
That’s around the end of the month?Any news if prices will be the same as R1?
They’re trying to keep it close but probably wouldn’t expect prices until the gb opens.
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 09 July 2018, 18:41:47
That’s around the end of the month?Any news if prices will be the same as R1?
They’re trying to keep it close but probably wouldn’t expect prices until the gb opens.
That’s what they’re aiming for
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Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Sun, 15 July 2018, 00:07:34
Post by: Wintersonmute on Sun, 15 July 2018, 21:48:49
A black chassis please :D
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 17 July 2018, 05:12:34
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Do I need to sign a form somewhere, or just comment here?
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 18 July 2018, 11:19:11
We are close to setting options up, but colors options still pending right now.
They will be decided after we discuss with the factory.
Appreciate you guys for being so patient. :thumb:
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 18 July 2018, 12:30:59
Post by: swan_soup on Wed, 18 July 2018, 13:11:29
Looking to cop the black
Post by: ricrackem on Wed, 18 July 2018, 13:24:50
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 18 July 2018, 13:57:37
Definitely in for this, has there been a timeframe announced?
I think they were aiming for end of month early August if I’m not mistaken
Post by: ricrackem on Wed, 18 July 2018, 14:00:00
Definitely in for this, has there been a timeframe announced?
I think they were aiming for end of month early August if I’m not mistaken
Exciting!! Thanks :D
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 18 July 2018, 16:10:03
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Post by: ctrl on Thu, 19 July 2018, 02:51:08
could we get stepped caps lock support?
If I recall correctly, the original pcb already has stepped caps lock support. It's just not in the KLE layout image.
As for the new bt pcb, it looks like it'll have stepped caps lock support. Just look at the pic of the pcb. In the position for the caps lock key there are cutouts for two different keys: one centered and one off-center.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I also like stepped caps lock keys. ;)
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Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 21 July 2018, 17:25:53
Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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Post by: cijanzen on Sat, 21 July 2018, 17:30:18
Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 22 July 2018, 00:56:01
Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
Post by: Lyle88 on Sun, 22 July 2018, 02:59:26
How much does it weigh once it's fully built?Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
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Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 23 July 2018, 00:10:55
How much does it weigh once it's fully built?Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
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Curious about this as well. I was hoping this thing was gonna be hefty haha.
Post by: YisSerL on Mon, 23 July 2018, 00:28:14
But I think that's the designer's intention for this to be more of a travel board.
Post by: beekey on Mon, 23 July 2018, 01:16:31
How much does it weigh once it's fully built?Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
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In one of the older threads somebody wrote 1.2-1.4kg. One message I found: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121)
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 23 July 2018, 01:58:17
The size is 365mm x 168mm, 1365g with SA keycaps on approximately. :D
Post by: wowremy on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:24:30
Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 23 July 2018, 04:47:15
Can we make switch pin holes bigger so hot swap sockets will fit?Second this as well!
Post by: befbef on Mon, 23 July 2018, 05:19:12
Post by: Lyle88 on Mon, 23 July 2018, 05:40:57
I dunno about you guys but I don't think 1.2kg is particularly portable. If I was after a take-anywhere board I would probably go for a hhkb.How much does it weigh once it's fully built?Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
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In one of the older threads somebody wrote 1.2-1.4kg. One message I found: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121)
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Post by: konstantin on Mon, 23 July 2018, 06:45:36
A version with kailh sockets would be so nice. For the limited layouts available it shouldn't be a big problem to realize. Really no chance to get this option?+1 for this, but I don't think it's going to happen. If they wanted to keep the layout choices and have Kailh hotswap sockets, it would likely require some of the switches to be sideways; kind of like this:
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/021/924/234/9016de05d7e1f8d83169d8226502915d_original.png?w=680&fit=max&v=1531814773&auto=format&lossless=true&s=87791d579443f39c1c70358081d1ec97)
I don't think that would be much of a problem, as none of the sideway ones would be on R3 (the row that's problematic for Cherry profile caps), but it's kind of... eh, iffy.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 23 July 2018, 07:02:45
I dunno about you guys but I don't think 1.2kg is particularly portable. If I was after a take-anywhere board I would probably go for a hhkb.How much does it weigh once it's fully built?Very interested. Been looking for a portable on-the-go keyboard for a while and this could be it.I would not consider this portable. It is relatively large, heavy, and I don't think you would want to risk scratching up the anodised finish.
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do not believe it is so heavy, it seems to be but it is not.
KMK Labs.
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In one of the older threads somebody wrote 1.2-1.4kg. One message I found: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549121#msg2549121)
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Everyone has their capability though. I don't carry it myself but I know some guys really do. ;D
Can we make switch pin holes bigger so hot swap sockets will fit?Second this as well!
No sorry, it may cause shorting for the bottom row.
A version with kailh sockets would be so nice. For the limited layouts available it shouldn't be a big problem to realize. Really no chance to get this option?+1 for this, but I don't think it's going to happen. If they wanted to keep the layout choices and have Kailh hotswap sockets, it would likely require some of the switches to be sideways; kind of like this:Show Image(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/021/924/234/9016de05d7e1f8d83169d8226502915d_original.png?w=680&fit=max&v=1531814773&auto=format&lossless=true&s=87791d579443f39c1c70358081d1ec97)
I don't think that would be much of a problem, as none of the sideway ones would be on R3 (the row that's problematic for Cherry profile caps), but it's kind of... eh, iffy.
Uhmmm... no, not going for this.
Post by: Hokabuki on Mon, 23 July 2018, 08:54:12
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Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 23 July 2018, 15:55:09
What is the BT for in a case this heavy? I do not see how this board may benefit of BT. It is an honest question. Do people want to pair this with their phones? :'(I was thinking of using the Bluetooth just to have one less cable on my desk. I also think given the cable placement that Bluetooth would allow the board design to be appreciated more and look better on a desk. I am just wondering if there lag when using a Bluetooth on this board.
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 23 July 2018, 16:40:31
What is the BT for in a case this heavy? I do not see how this board may benefit of BT. It is an honest question. Do people want to pair this with their phones? :'(
I want to use it to play keyboard games in my living room from time to time.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 23 July 2018, 20:46:47
Just confirming, I dont mean Kailh hot swap sockets... The pin holes just need to be like .002 mm or something larger to fit Mill Max socket receptacles...https://www.mill-max.com/products/rec/7305
I didn't reply your quote about Kailh sockets. The PCB maker said that it may cause short circuit if expanding switches holes for bot row.
It's not reasonable to make any change just for a demand from few guys.
When a modification is made means we should test it. And what if there are other people wanting to use other sockets?
Hope you can understand. ;)
What is the BT for in a case this heavy? I do not see how this board may benefit of BT. It is an honest question. Do people want to pair this with their phones? :'(I was thinking of using the Bluetooth just to have one less cable on my desk. I also think given the cable placement that Bluetooth would allow the board design to be appreciated more and look better on a desk. I am just wondering if there lag when using a Bluetooth on this board.
With a BT option doesn't mean that you need to carry CA66 around. There are people always desiring to make their table cleaner when working.
The BT PCB was just an product made by YANG, and we bring it in this round for guys who are interested in it. :D
Post by: cijanzen on Mon, 23 July 2018, 20:48:50
Post by: ideus on Mon, 23 July 2018, 21:39:52
Just confirming, I dont mean Kailh hot swap sockets... The pin holes just need to be like .002 mm or something larger to fit Mill Max socket receptacles...https://www.mill-max.com/products/rec/7305 (https://www.mill-max.com/products/rec/7305)
I didn't reply your quote about Kailh sockets. The PCB maker said that it may cause short circuit if expanding switches holes for bot row.
It's not reasonable to make any change just for a demand from few guys.
When a modification is made means we should test it. And what if there are other people wanting to use other sockets?
Hope you can understand. ;)What is the BT for in a case this heavy? I do not see how this board may benefit of BT. It is an honest question. Do people want to pair this with their phones? :'(I was thinking of using the Bluetooth just to have one less cable on my desk. I also think given the cable placement that Bluetooth would allow the board design to be appreciated more and look better on a desk. I am just wondering if there lag when using a Bluetooth on this board.
With a BT option doesn't mean that you need to carry CA66 around. There are people always desiring to make their table cleaner when working.
The BT PCB was just an product made by YANG, and we bring it in this round for guys who are interested in it. :D
You are right. A wireless CA66 may be attractive for many. Still, not sure if a heavy wireless KB is really that useful. But that is only me. Good luck with the GB.
Post by: godlikekitten on Tue, 24 July 2018, 00:35:25
This is from the last round just wanna say if you aren't hopping on it this time you're missing out ;)
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Post by: jrfhoutx on Tue, 24 July 2018, 09:24:30
I could see a BT version being used as a travel board by some people.
Personally, I just want BT so I can get rid of one more cord snaking across my desk...
Post by: roymt76 on Wed, 25 July 2018, 05:03:44
I love this keyboard but the blocker made me think too much :(
https://imgur.com/a/upFduQA
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Post by: gregoryturtle on Wed, 25 July 2018, 08:35:05
100% in for a BT CA66 and an extra PCB! If custom color request are open to the panel can I suggest a dark navy / blue black color?
Eitherways, I am in for a unit with spare parts and am super hyped for this interest check to transition into a group buy asap!
Thanks for being such a champion Barry!
Post by: Owl- on Wed, 25 July 2018, 16:49:49
If one only wants to get the BT PCB, would a plate be included? It was mentioned the plate would be improved to allow better wireless BT transmission.
Bumping this question since I've joined the previous round.
As a Graphic designer. I prefer one keyboard with Ctrl,shift,alt in the left hand and full arrow in the right hand
I love this keyboard but the blocker made me think too much :(
https://imgur.com/a/upFduQAShow Image(http://<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/upFduQA"><a href="//imgur.com/upFduQA"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>)
That's a 660 layout, it already exists. Leopold, Clueboard and KBDfans are simple sources.
Post by: jrfhoutx on Wed, 25 July 2018, 22:17:10
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 26 July 2018, 04:59:12
Post by: merlin64 on Thu, 26 July 2018, 10:09:42
Idk if this has been asked before, but is there a chance for a 5mm plate?
What's the reasoning behind wanting a 5mm plate? Going the way of the Zephyr?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 26 July 2018, 11:13:10
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This is from the last round just wanna say if you aren't hopping on it this time you're missing out ;)
Haven't got mine yet. :-[
I don't carry mine around with me or anything, but it's really not that heavy. it's no ultra-lightweight like a plank or a HHKB with a plastic case, but it's also not a 4kg monster.
I could see a BT version being used as a travel board by some people.
Personally, I just want BT so I can get rid of one more cord snaking across my desk...
It's a big motivation for getting a BT PCB to make your desk cleaner. :))
As a Graphic designer. I prefer one keyboard with Ctrl,shift,alt in the left hand and full arrow in the right hand
I love this keyboard but the blocker made me think too much :(
https://imgur.com/a/upFduQA (https://imgur.com/a/upFduQA)Show Image(http://<blockquote class=)
That's not a CA66 though xD.
Made this account to reply to the GMK Blue Samurai Interest Check and this!
100% in for a BT CA66 and an extra PCB! If custom color request are open to the panel can I suggest a dark navy / blue black color?
Eitherways, I am in for a unit with spare parts and am super hyped for this interest check to transition into a group buy asap!
Thanks for being such a champion Barry!
Really thankful man. :thumb:
If one only wants to get the BT PCB, would a plate be included? It was mentioned the plate would be improved to allow better wireless BT transmission.
Bumping this question since I've joined the previous round.
Good ask. I'll note that! :o
I know the BT PCB is going to be available separately for people from the previous round, but will the titanium badge also be available for purchase alone? I didn’t get one last round and I’ve regretted not getting one ever since my board arrived.
I think we'll make some parts to be available to purchase individually. ;D
Idk if this has been asked before, but is there a chance for a 5mm plate?
What's the reasoning behind wanting a 5mm plate? Going the way of the Zephyr?
5mm for a PC plate will be meaningful. We haven't made one before, so there won't be.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 26 July 2018, 11:39:34
Post by: befbef on Thu, 26 July 2018, 11:40:04
How are the chances for white?
Post by: Kallus on Thu, 26 July 2018, 19:39:20
Will the colors be different to the last gb?
How are the chances for white?
White anodization is impossible due to the white pigment being larger than the pores of aluminium
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 26 July 2018, 19:46:43
Will the colors be different to the last gb?
How are the chances for white?
White anodization is impossible due to the white pigment being larger than the pores of aluminium
He probably means Microarc Oxidation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_electrolytic_oxidation), which is a different type of converting the top layer of aluminum to an oxide and is silver-white in color. A fair number of recent group buys have used MAO for the "white" color finish.
Post by: befbef on Thu, 26 July 2018, 20:17:38
Or the matte silver version of ca66: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549102#msg2549102
Post by: roymt76 on Thu, 26 July 2018, 22:22:21
If one only wants to get the BT PCB, would a plate be included? It was mentioned the plate would be improved to allow better wireless BT transmission.
Bumping this question since I've joined the previous round.As a Graphic designer. I prefer one keyboard with Ctrl,shift,alt in the left hand and full arrow in the right hand
I love this keyboard but the blocker made me think too much :(
https://imgur.com/a/upFduQAShow Image(http://<blockquote class="imgur-embed-pub" lang="en" data-id="a/upFduQA"><a href="//imgur.com/upFduQA"></a></blockquote><script async src="//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>)
That's a 660 layout, it already exists. Leopold, Clueboard and KBDfans are simple sources.
yeah i know leopold, clueboard and KBDfans
But i like to have CA66 with this kind of layout :(
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 27 July 2018, 01:27:16
Will the colors be different to the last gb?
How are the chances for white?
White anodization is impossible due to the white pigment being larger than the pores of aluminium
He probably means Microarc Oxidation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_electrolytic_oxidation), which is a different type of converting the top layer of aluminum to an oxide and is silver-white in color. A fair number of recent group buys have used MAO for the "white" color finish.
How is ALF doing their white cases (for example the dc60 currently in the gb)? That would be really nice.
Or the matte silver version of ca66: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2549102#msg2549102
White color is always a pin in the ass. We don't know how ALF do it, but it surly needs a factory with high technique to achieve it.
We'll probably stick to the silver color of last round, and try to make it as white as possible.
New colors still pending, we have to make sure they are available.
Post by: gregoryturtle on Fri, 27 July 2018, 02:54:44
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 27 July 2018, 05:37:21
Any date estimates on when this will become a group buy?
Hi guys, it's been a while since last update.
We are close to setting options up, but colors options still pending right now.
They will be decided after we discuss with the factory.
Appreciate you guys for being so patient. :thumb:
Here's the answer.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 27 July 2018, 05:38:48
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Post by: superiorgorg30 on Fri, 27 July 2018, 05:43:05
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
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That white looks stunning. Super super clean
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Post by: befbef on Fri, 27 July 2018, 07:12:19
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What do you guys think? ;)I'm in!
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:15:00
Post by: bcbishop on Fri, 27 July 2018, 08:29:39
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
Very nice! Is that a glossy finish?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Fri, 27 July 2018, 12:16:45
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
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That white looks stunning. Super super clean
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QuoteWhat do you guys think? ;)I'm in!
Probably would prefer something coloured, personally, but that white finish does look very nice!
Glad you guys liked it. :D
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
Very nice! Is that a glossy finish?
Yes. I am thinking about to make it a matte surface, but need to discuss with the factory to see if it's available.
Post by: mute on Fri, 27 July 2018, 13:25:03
Post by: Haaaaaandrew on Fri, 27 July 2018, 21:10:44
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
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Oh boy, I thought I wanted silver this time around, but this white case looks amazing!
Post by: vonswoopington on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:18:45
Post by: Lyle88 on Sat, 28 July 2018, 01:55:29
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)What kind of material is used to coat the case with this technique? Ceramic, metal or polymer?
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Post by: gregoryturtle on Sat, 28 July 2018, 02:01:30
Any date estimates on when this will become a group buy?Hi guys, it's been a while since last update.
We are close to setting options up, but colors options still pending right now.
They will be decided after we discuss with the factory.
Appreciate you guys for being so patient. :thumb:
Here's the answer.
Apologies, obviously I can't read! Thanks for the reply! Looking forward to it! And the white looks amazing as well!
Post by: atk80 on Sat, 28 July 2018, 11:23:01
Post by: opioid on Sat, 28 July 2018, 13:41:53
Post by: Meowsaur on Tue, 31 July 2018, 20:13:42
Just yes.
Been sold on the CA66 ever since I saw a photo of one rocking SA Cyan Dolch.
Post by: ganymede on Tue, 31 July 2018, 20:24:15
Post by: coffeeshopcoder on Tue, 31 July 2018, 20:24:15
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Post by: KoalaKaiser on Tue, 31 July 2018, 21:54:36
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 31 July 2018, 23:39:15
Post by: ThomasTH on Wed, 01 August 2018, 00:58:19
Post by: redjarojam on Wed, 01 August 2018, 08:03:31
Post by: MeloDet on Wed, 01 August 2018, 18:12:43
Post by: Rumblehotep on Wed, 01 August 2018, 18:50:44
Post by: sgtpopwell on Wed, 01 August 2018, 23:46:38
Sent a failed CA66 case to test white color first for Doppio by electrophoresis. What do you guys think? ;)
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looks fantastic, I want one!
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:06:31
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Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 August 2018, 02:09:58
I'm in too!
first time getting in for an IC, can't wait.
Yes.
Just yes.
Been sold on the CA66 ever since I saw a photo of one rocking SA Cyan Dolch.
I am definitely in when this is available. Very handsome.
I am in, love the white, the sooner the better!
I am in for brown. I need it!
Oh thank god this is still in IC, I still have time left to money
Thanks for the love guys. :p
Any ETA on when the GB will start ?
No, until whole things are set up. :eek:
Please let this happen in September when I can buy in for all the things. ;D
There will be quite a period for joining. Don't worry. ;D
Well I hadn't been planning to join this since I was in r1, but now I've gotta join for the alps supported pcb and plate. Can't wait!
We'll try to come up with some renders for modded plate and ALPS plate. ;)
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 August 2018, 15:17:26
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 02 August 2018, 19:39:21
Any word on Bright Dip Anodizing (https://www.saf.com/faq/what-is-bright-dip/) option, like some Korean boards use (such as those by LZ, Duck, etc.)? Even if it costs extra?Any reference pic for me to check what it really is?
Not sure if it's what I think after reading the description. :p
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 03 August 2018, 22:52:00
For examples of bright dip anodizing, you can see LZ boards or Duck boards. You can disregard the texture/grain--that's subject to sandblasting and can be fine or very textured. You can do bright dip on brushed finish too.
Duck Orion v2:
(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/232C593C551F488319)
(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/271AB73C551F488324)
(image source: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/ORION%20v2)
(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/27383B375351D3572D)
(image source: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/SAVER)
LZ Iron
(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/2529D248570C58F833)
(image source: http://lzlife.tistory.com/313)
And look at the 4th picture of the gold here: http://lzlife.tistory.com/316?category=621101
I think TX keyboards are also done with bright dip anodizing as well, based on the pictures of the older TX-84, TX-CP, etc. Basically it so far it seems common with Korean keyboards.
etc.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sat, 04 August 2018, 01:01:57
The bright dip is a pre-treatment before anodizing: a dip into a mixture of nitric + phosphoric acids to smooth out the sandblasted surface on the microscale, right before the actual anodizing bath. The difference is that the finish becomes smoother to touch and glossier, more shimmery vs. original sandblasted finish anodized as is.
For examples of bright dip anodizing, you can see LZ boards or Duck boards. You can disregard the texture/grain--that's subject to sandblasting and can be fine or very textured. You can do bright dip on brushed finish too.
Duck Orion v2:Show Image(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/232C593C551F488319)Show Image(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/271AB73C551F488324)
(image source: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/ORION%20v2)Show Image(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/27383B375351D3572D)
(image source: http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/SAVER)
LZ IronShow Image(https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/2529D248570C58F833)
(image source: http://lzlife.tistory.com/313)
And look at the 4th picture of the gold here: http://lzlife.tistory.com/316?category=621101
I think TX keyboards are also done with bright dip anodizing as well, based on the pictures of the older TX-84, TX-CP, etc. Basically it so far it seems common with Korean keyboards.
etc.
Thanks for explanation. Actually we did consider doing this treatment before.
There's two points why we gave CA66 a matte surface finish:
1. CA66 has a retro look. It's not that suitable with glossy surface in our opinion.
2. We don't want the case to grab spotlight of keysets.
Surly everyone has it's own test. Just explaining why we had these conclusion.
We might can do bright dip finish for some orders, if there's not too many inquires.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sat, 04 August 2018, 01:04:00
Is it easy to find alps keycaps to use for CA66's layout?
We know it's cool to have alps as an opion, but wanting to clarify the availability and how many interests in it. :eek:
Post by: parityb1t on Sat, 04 August 2018, 04:42:31
Just want to ask.
Is it easy to find alps keycaps to use for CA66's layout?
We know it's cool to have alps as an opion, but wanting to clarify the availability and how many interests in it. :eek:
I think its easy enough. Most keys are easy to find. Hardest probably 1.75u right shift.
Pmk sells some 1.75u, think one of the AEK boards have 1.75u. I also know a collaborator from Lunar is casting 1.75u so could buy extra :p maybe they will open up to bigger market.
Biggest selling point for me rn in this buy is Alps compatibility tbh :p
Post by: dondongler on Sat, 04 August 2018, 05:54:09
Just want to ask.
Is it easy to find alps keycaps to use for CA66's layout?
We know it's cool to have alps as an opion, but wanting to clarify the availability and how many interests in it. :eek:
I think its easy enough. Most keys are easy to find. Hardest probably 1.75u right shift.
Pmk sells some 1.75u, think one of the AEK boards have 1.75u. I also know a collaborator from Lunar is casting 1.75u so could buy extra :p maybe they will open up to bigger market.
Biggest selling point for me rn in this buy is Alps compatibility tbh :p
Really stoked for the alps compatibility as well! Will probably buy an extra plate and PCB for an alps build. Sourcing a keyset does worry me a bit though. I have 2 aek sets I could use but I feel like the profile on the caps would have them 'float' out of the case towards the back.
Post by: cijanzen on Sat, 04 August 2018, 07:27:00
Post by: Lormania on Sat, 04 August 2018, 11:02:01
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 04 August 2018, 11:23:43
We might can do bright dip finish for some orders, if there's not too many inquires.
That would be most excellent if it could be an optional selection!
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sat, 04 August 2018, 14:13:57
Post by: kokoon on Sat, 04 August 2018, 17:42:29
Post by: jrfhoutx on Sat, 04 August 2018, 22:09:17
Just want to ask.
Is it easy to find alps keycaps to use for CA66's layout?
We know it's cool to have alps as an opion, but wanting to clarify the availability and how many interests in it. :eek:
yeah, definitely interested in the alps option. there may not be a huge amount of alps caps options, but most alps fans are used to not having many keycap options.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 05 August 2018, 05:07:36
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
[attachimg=1]
Post by: parityb1t on Sun, 05 August 2018, 09:51:08
Thanks for feedbacks guys. :thumb:
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
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Looks good :thumb:
as good as it can get without too much extra effort anyway :p
Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 05 August 2018, 09:56:43
Post by: japanitrat on Sun, 05 August 2018, 12:06:58
Thanks for feedbacks guys. :thumb:
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
(Attachment Link)
Will there be a non-ALPS option? I'd like to solder on Holtites but the ALPS slots will make that rather difficult
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Sun, 05 August 2018, 20:16:00
I saw that the led strip is going to be raised up a bit higher from the pcb to prevent light bleeding. I wonder if a more frosted strip will be necessary on the case to prevent led hotspots and to keep a more gradient look.
The part you were saying was already frosted. ;)
Thanks for feedbacks guys. :thumb:
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
(Attachment Link)
Will there be a non-ALPS option? I'd like to solder on Holtites but the ALPS slots will make that rather difficult
No sorry. But the truth is that you can't mount PCB to top case unless you solder switches in it.
Post by: cijanzen on Sun, 05 August 2018, 20:49:15
I saw that the led strip is going to be raised up a bit higher from the pcb to prevent light bleeding. I wonder if a more frosted strip will be necessary on the case to prevent led hotspots and to keep a more gradient look.
The part you were saying was already frosted. ;)
Oh, I know that but I’m wondering if it’ll be made thicker to account for the fact that the leds will be closer to the surface and might cause led hotspots instead of a nice ambient light. Perhaps it’s negligible in terms of how much it’s raised. Have you tried one of the new pcbs in the case with the leds on? Does it look fine still?
Post by: japanitrat on Mon, 06 August 2018, 10:46:52
I saw that the led strip is going to be raised up a bit higher from the pcb to prevent light bleeding. I wonder if a more frosted strip will be necessary on the case to prevent led hotspots and to keep a more gradient look.
The part you were saying was already frosted. ;)Thanks for feedbacks guys. :thumb:
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
(Attachment Link)
Will there be a non-ALPS option? I'd like to solder on Holtites but the ALPS slots will make that rather difficult
No sorry. But the truth is that you can't mount PCB to top case unless you solder switches in it.
I beg to differ :)
I have several top mounts with Holtites. Even though I can't swap switches without opening the case to support the PCB from below when putting new switches in, the Holtites will hold on to the switches enough to keep the PCB floating.
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Mon, 06 August 2018, 19:42:16
I saw that the led strip is going to be raised up a bit higher from the pcb to prevent light bleeding. I wonder if a more frosted strip will be necessary on the case to prevent led hotspots and to keep a more gradient look.
The part you were saying was already frosted. ;)
Oh, I know that but I’m wondering if it’ll be made thicker to account for the fact that the leds will be closer to the surface and might cause led hotspots instead of a nice ambient light. Perhaps it’s negligible in terms of how much it’s raised. Have you tried one of the new pcbs in the case with the leds on? Does it look fine still?
Yeah it's tested. Still have some distance between leds and top. ;)
I saw that the led strip is going to be raised up a bit higher from the pcb to prevent light bleeding. I wonder if a more frosted strip will be necessary on the case to prevent led hotspots and to keep a more gradient look.
The part you were saying was already frosted. ;)Thanks for feedbacks guys. :thumb:
The alps option will only be in Bluetooth PCB. If you guys are okay with the layout it provided, we'll stick to this pic below.
(Attachment Link)
Will there be a non-ALPS option? I'd like to solder on Holtites but the ALPS slots will make that rather difficult
No sorry. But the truth is that you can't mount PCB to top case unless you solder switches in it.
I beg to differ :)
I have several top mounts with Holtites. Even though I can't swap switches without opening the case to support the PCB from below when putting new switches in, the Holtites will hold on to the switches enough to keep the PCB floating.
That'll cost more according to the expected quantity of PCB selling. Yang will tend to keep what it looks like right now. :-X
Post by: kokoon on Tue, 07 August 2018, 00:43:12
Post by: befbef on Tue, 07 August 2018, 02:12:42
Thanks for checking again!
Post by: krey on Wed, 08 August 2018, 04:28:29
Post by: ye_cole on Wed, 08 August 2018, 12:46:03
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Hot-swap would really be a big :thumb:
Thanks for checking again!
Hot swap would be great. Seconded!
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 13:09:28
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 08 August 2018, 20:44:17
We are planning to start CA66 GB on 15th. :))
My mate will be going to anodizing factory to check all final color options.
And we'll be uploading modded plate and alps plate pics for you guys to have a look.
About PCB, there will be 2 kinds:
1. Normal wire version: with modded RGB led strip and a bit change for fully supporting QMK. USB C to C also supports
2. Bluetooth version: BT4.0, compatible with MX switches and ALPS switches. TMK firmware.
About Hotswappable PCB. Since CA66 wasn't designed for using this way to install and build, the PCB will need some screws to mount to the top case as you guys can see what m60-A did. It should be re-layouted and tested, which is going to cost lots of effort.
We don't think it's a good idea to just produce some PCBs, and you guys are on your own after sending them away.
So sorry to say HS PCB is not available. We'll come up with it in other design to follow the trend. :thumb:
Post by: ipreferpie on Wed, 08 August 2018, 20:46:00
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 20:57:34
Morning from Taiwan guys!
We are planning to start CA66 GB on 15th. :))
My mate will be going to anodizing factory to check all final color options.
And we'll be uploading modded plate and alps plate pics for you guys to have a look.
About PCB, there will be 2 kinds:
1. Normal wire version: with modded RGB led strip and a bit change for fully supporting QMK. USB C to C also supports
2. Bluetooth version: BT4.0, compatible with MX switches and ALPS switches. TMK firmware.
About Hotswappable PCB. Since CA66 wasn't designed for using this way to install and build, the PCB will need some screws to mount to the top case as you guys can see what m60-A did. It should be re-layouted and tested, which is going to cost lots of effort.
We don't think it's a good idea to just produce some PCBs, and you guys are on your own after sending them away.
So sorry to say HS PCB is not available. We'll come up with it in other design to follow the trend. :thumb:
Awesome! Super excited for this!
Few questions,
Will the Bluetooth option not have QMK support and LED strip modifications like on the non-Bluetooth option?
Will we be able to purchase more than one PCB and plate per order?
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:14:07
Awesome! Super excited for this!
Few questions,
Will the Bluetooth option not have QMK support and LED strip modifications like on the non-Bluetooth option?
Will we be able to purchase more than one PCB and plate per order?
No QMK for BT PCB. RGB led strip will remain it's fancy. You still can change it's settings.
Extra parts are surly available to be purchased. :thumb:
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:15:15
Awesome! Super excited for this!
Few questions,
Will the Bluetooth option not have QMK support and LED strip modifications like on the non-Bluetooth option?
Will we be able to purchase more than one PCB and plate per order?
No QMK for BT PCB. RGB led strip will remain it's fancy. You still can change it's settings.
Extra parts are surly available to be purchased. :thumb:
Sounds good! Depending on pricing I might pickup Bluetooth and non-Bluetooth options. Either way thanks for another round!
Post by: York Chan on Wed, 08 August 2018, 21:19:12
Post by: jrfhoutx on Thu, 09 August 2018, 00:03:04
Awesome! Super excited for this!
Few questions,
Will the Bluetooth option not have QMK support and LED strip modifications like on the non-Bluetooth option?
Will we be able to purchase more than one PCB and plate per order?
No QMK for BT PCB. RGB led strip will remain it's fancy. You still can change it's settings.
Extra parts are surly available to be purchased. :thumb:
has the work to port the bluetooth version to qmk just not been done, or is it not possible?
I know qmk supports the bluefruit boards, but considering that qmk is based off of tmk, if it's possible to support this board's bluetooth setup in tmk, then it should be possible to support qmk on the same board.
Post by: silversung on Thu, 09 August 2018, 01:06:32
beautiful design with retro feel, and BT. That's like an endgame for me.
DARK RED, here I come!
Post by: slxdegrees on Thu, 09 August 2018, 05:51:50
Morning from Taiwan guys!
We are planning to start CA66 GB on 15th. :))
My mate will be going to anodizing factory to check all final color options.
And we'll be uploading modded plate and alps plate pics for you guys to have a look.
About PCB, there will be 2 kinds:
1. Normal wire version: with modded RGB led strip and a bit change for fully supporting QMK. USB C to C also supports
2. Bluetooth version: BT4.0, compatible with MX switches and ALPS switches. TMK firmware.
About Hotswappable PCB. Since CA66 wasn't designed for using this way to install and build, the PCB will need some screws to mount to the top case as you guys can see what m60-A did. It should be re-layouted and tested, which is going to cost lots of effort.
We don't think it's a good idea to just produce some PCBs, and you guys are on your own after sending them away.
So sorry to say HS PCB is not available. We'll come up with it in other design to follow the trend. :thumb:
Is it possible to start the GB a little later? GBs for so many great-looking keyboards are starting at around the same time and our wallets could really do with a bit of time to catch up.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 09 August 2018, 12:30:20
Morning from Taiwan guys!
We are planning to start CA66 GB on 15th. :))
My mate will be going to anodizing factory to check all final color options.
And we'll be uploading modded plate and alps plate pics for you guys to have a look.
About PCB, there will be 2 kinds:
1. Normal wire version: with modded RGB led strip and a bit change for fully supporting QMK. USB C to C also supports
2. Bluetooth version: BT4.0, compatible with MX switches and ALPS switches. TMK firmware.
About Hotswappable PCB. Since CA66 wasn't designed for using this way to install and build, the PCB will need some screws to mount to the top case as you guys can see what m60-A did. It should be re-layouted and tested, which is going to cost lots of effort.
We don't think it's a good idea to just produce some PCBs, and you guys are on your own after sending them away.
So sorry to say HS PCB is not available. We'll come up with it in other design to follow the trend. :thumb:
Is it possible to start the GB a little later? GBs for so many great-looking keyboards are starting at around the same time and our wallets could really do with a bit of time to catch up.
That's probably always going to be the case at this point, just as it is with keycap sets. I anticipate the rate to increase even further.
Post by: Cktenders on Fri, 10 August 2018, 16:02:30
Post by: gregoryturtle on Fri, 10 August 2018, 21:49:38
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 12 August 2018, 10:45:40
Post by: typischt on Sun, 12 August 2018, 15:54:13
I have a CA66 from the original run in China. Can i just order a bluetooth PCB and plate from this GB?Yes, that will be possible.
Post by: dantambok on Sun, 12 August 2018, 17:46:49
I have a CA66 from the original run in China. Can i just order a bluetooth PCB and plate from this GB?Yes, that will be possible.
Thanks!
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Tue, 14 August 2018, 11:02:31
We are trying hard to make the GB happen on time. Please forgive us if we can't make it on 15th. :(
We'll make it live asap.
Thanks!
Post by: Lormania on Tue, 14 August 2018, 11:26:35
Post by: dondongler on Tue, 14 August 2018, 11:28:06
Post by: roymt76 on Tue, 14 August 2018, 12:23:56
Hi, guys.Thank for update ;)
We are trying hard to make the GB happen on time. Please forgive us if we can't make it on 15th. :(
We'll make it live asap.
Thanks!
I have more time to save my money
Post by: cijanzen on Tue, 14 August 2018, 12:24:40
Hi, guys.Thank for update
We are trying hard to make the GB happen on time. Please forgive us if we can't make it on 15th.
We'll make it live asap.
Thanks!
I have more time to save my money
Hopefully only a day or two! I’m so ready this round.
Post by: Ephemeral on Tue, 14 August 2018, 12:34:09
Hopefully only a day or two! I’m so ready this round.
Same. I would love for this to happen at some point this month if not the 15th.
I won't be able to get in on it otherwise. :(
Post by: KingzandBean on Tue, 14 August 2018, 16:03:15
Post by: Lormania on Wed, 15 August 2018, 00:49:50
Post by: Lyle88 on Wed, 15 August 2018, 02:19:10
Hoping for the same purple!I'm very much considering going for the purple with SA troubled minds
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Post by: redjarojam on Wed, 15 August 2018, 10:09:15
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 15 August 2018, 14:50:47
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Wed, 15 August 2018, 20:16:26
We are pretty much done for the GB page. Just waiting to do the final check and we are good to post it to GB forum.
Might be show up anytime in these two days. :thumb:
Thanks for all the patience from you guys!
Post by: cijanzen on Wed, 15 August 2018, 21:10:31
Sorry for the delaying. :'(
We are pretty much done for the GB page. Just waiting to do the final check and we are good to post it to GB forum.
Might be show up anytime in these two days. :thumb:
Thanks for all the patience from you guys!
No worries! better to have a slightly delayed but smoother GB :)
Thanks for the update. I'll wait patiently now! :thumb:
Post by: gregoryturtle on Thu, 16 August 2018, 04:18:43
Sorry for the delaying. :'(
We are pretty much done for the GB page. Just waiting to do the final check and we are good to post it to GB forum.
Might be show up anytime in these two days. :thumb:
Thanks for all the patience from you guys!
Interested to see the final color options!
Post by: gregoryturtle on Thu, 16 August 2018, 04:22:15
Whoop
https://play-keyboard.store/collections/group-buys/products/ca66-66-custom-keyboard-kit?variant=18680818499702
Post by: garbo on Thu, 16 August 2018, 05:11:37
Post by: wowremy on Thu, 16 August 2018, 06:11:55
Post by: Vizir on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:29:29
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:30:06
what color is this?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
Grey blue
Post by: typischt on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:38:59
Are you sure? I actually think it‘s just grey.. It‘s always hard to tell with the CA66!what color is this?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
Grey blue
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:43:21
Are you sure? I actually think it‘s just grey.. It‘s always hard to tell with the CA66!what color is this?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
Grey blue
On second glance you’re right. Might be grey. At first I thought it was a mix of GMK Yuri and another set and the navy modifiers matched the case so I thought it must be navy but I realize now this is probably GMK Carbon which has grey mods. So yeah, grey case? 🤷🏼♂️
Post by: bcbishop on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:46:07
Post by: Taques on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:48:52
Can't wait to put in my order!
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:49:28
Post by: Vizir on Thu, 16 August 2018, 08:55:10
Post by: redjarojam on Thu, 16 August 2018, 10:33:59
Any way to get the brown color?
One tear fell out of my eye when I didn't see brown in that drop down list. Dark red it is I guess.
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 16 August 2018, 10:40:24
Are you sure? I actually think it‘s just grey.. It‘s always hard to tell with the CA66!what color is this?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
Grey blue
On second glance you’re right. Might be grey. At first I thought it was a mix of GMK Yuri and another set and the navy modifiers matched the case so I thought it must be navy but I realize now this is probably GMK Carbon which has grey mods. So yeah, grey case? 🤷🏼♂️
Just realized, at least on desktop, that the feature picture changes when selecting the colour from the dropdown menu. When you pick grey, then the picture you were asking about becomes the featured one so I guess that's the final answer!
Post by: PlayKeyboardTW on Thu, 16 August 2018, 10:46:00
Oh, so there's no way to get one of the carbon fibre plates from the original BT PCB run? That's a shame :(
It was not made by us. We did a little modification for both alu and brass plate for signal to pass through. ;)
Any way to get the brown color?
One tear fell out of my eye when I didn't see brown in that drop down list. Dark red it is I guess.
We canceled it according to the quantity of last round. Sorry about that. :-X
what color is this?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/1934/6038/products/1_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1534347943
It's a dark grey. The commercial color. :thumb:
Whew, I'm glad the $340 price is all-in and pretty close to the original GB price. Don't think I could have made an extra $45 on top of that work.
Can't wait to put in my order!
Thanks! ;)
I don’t know if this was answered before, but how many devices can the Bluetooth pcb remember? And can you switch between devices?
The BT module it used is for one device at a time only. That's the only disadvantage of it.
But the module is very efficient and supports far distance. Made in TW. :thumb:
@PlayKeyboardTW can you please mark which color is in each image of the keyboard. not, the samples, since those are hard to visualize, the full keyboard. maybe just write the color at the bottom of each keyboard image on the shop page.
We did it in product page. Now it shows up the color matches your color choice.
Some colors were not showed up. We will try to put them in asap. :thumb:
Post by: roymt76 on Thu, 16 August 2018, 12:16:52
Post by: yesiamthatman on Thu, 16 August 2018, 12:24:18
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 16 August 2018, 12:46:16
Edit: Fixed link
Post by: jrfhoutx on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:33:04
GB link seems to be up: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96401.350your link just loops back here, here's the GB page
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97035.0
Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 16 August 2018, 14:34:33
GB link seems to be up: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96401.350your link just loops back here, here's the GB page
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97035.0
Woops. Thanks!
Post by: jrfhoutx on Thu, 16 August 2018, 16:51:43
GB link seems to be up: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96401.350your link just loops back here, here's the GB page
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97035.0
Woops. Thanks!
No problem, you're welcome!
Post by: nhathoangJS on Thu, 16 August 2018, 22:12:35
I can see the hole near the Cap, so i'll blink when BT is connected?
And the switch between TAB & Q is the on/off BT?
Anything else?
Post by: cijanzen on Thu, 16 August 2018, 22:16:14
What is the difference between plate R1 & R2?
I can see the hole near the Cap, so i'll blink when BT is connected?
And the switch between TAB & Q is the on/off BT?
Anything else?
There’s a larger cutout around the spacebar for better signal.
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 17 August 2018, 00:53:53
Which can be found here (: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97035.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97035.0)