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« Reply #100 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 14:40:36 »
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They will not look like the LED windows on Cherry key caps.
They will not be double shot.
They will not be cheap.

Are there pictures of what they look like? I seem to recall that these were available in Round 3, but I may be mistaken. Any rough idea on the cost?
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« Reply #101 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:00:22 »
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Are there pictures of what they look like? I seem to recall that these were available in Round 3, but I may be mistaken. Any rough idea on the cost?

 
I've got to look up the price quotes. You can have custom shapes (rectangle or circle) but these must be above or below the keymount and are only on top of the key (unlike Cherry).
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« Reply #102 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:17:55 »
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I'm lazy! Post the links in this thread!

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« Reply #103 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:21:52 »
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Belgian azerty layout would work with Filco, right?

 
Yes, labels don't have anything to do with keyboards, it's all software...

So basicly ISO-layouts work on ISO-boards. Japanese, make some specials though...
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« Reply #104 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:24:47 »
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I've got to look up the price quotes. You can have custom shapes (rectangle or circle) but these must be above or below the keymount and are only on top of the key (unlike Cherry).


That'd be fine with me. I'd just hate to lose the status light, at the very least for Caps Lock. Scroll Lock isn't that important to me. I mean does anybody use Scroll Lock anyway? 20 years I've been using computers, 13 years of that in software dev/test and I've never had an occasion to use it...in fact, I vote for having a Scroll Lock replacement key that says "Launch Missiles". Maybe then I will actually press it occasionally. :)
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« Reply #105 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:37:35 »
Can they do doubleshot with clear for the legend? Might be an interesting alternative for caps and scroll lock.

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« Reply #106 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:39:49 »
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Can they do doubleshot with clear for the legend? Might be an interesting alternative for caps and scroll lock.

That would be cool. Like the Deck keyboards.
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« Reply #107 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 15:56:18 »
Quote from: gimpster;392406
That'd be fine with me. I'd just hate to lose the status light, at the very least for Caps Lock. Scroll Lock isn't that important to me. I mean does anybody use Scroll Lock anyway? 20 years I've been using computers, 13 years of that in software dev/test and I've never had an occasion to use it...in fact, I vote for having a Scroll Lock replacement key that says "Launch Missiles". Maybe then I will actually press it occasionally. :)

 
I use it as Caps Lock.
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Yes, labels don't have anything to do with keyboards, it's all software...

So basicly ISO-layouts work on ISO-boards. Japanese, make some specials though...

 
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« Reply #108 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 16:08:42 »
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Scroll Lock isn't that important to me. I mean does anybody use Scroll Lock anyway? 20 years I've been using computers, 13 years of that in software dev/test and I've never had an occasion to use it...in fact, I vote for having a Scroll Lock replacement key that says "Launch Missiles". Maybe then I will actually press it occasionally. :)

I don't mean to derail this thread but I agree w/ you 100%.  The two keys I use the very least (Caps and Scroll Lock) are tied to a visual indicator (light) and I feel it's a misplaced use of resources.  Outside of making the lights blink on and off, I'd never use these keys.  I, too, would like to rename these keys.  Perhaps "Light Switch", "Pew Pew" or perhaps "SHOUT" (for the Caps Lock) would be a better use for the keys.

"Launch Missiles" is good.  I also like "Destroy" or "Room Service".  :)

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« Reply #109 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 16:11:14 »
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perhaps "SHOUT" (for the Caps Lock)

LOL I like it. ;)
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« Reply #110 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 16:17:29 »
How about "IDIOT" for CapsLk(how Lenovo likes it ;D)
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« Reply #111 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 16:59:42 »
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Also, how about a 1.75 "Escape" key?  Anyone besides me have caps lock mapped to escape for vim?


That's not a bad idea. Are you swapping the escape and caps lock keys? If you are then presumably you'd also need a small caps lock key to replace the esc key.

Alternatively, you could have a caps lock key with a Vim symbol on it.

Also, it would be cool if the Linux kit could include hjkl keys with small arrow symbols on them for vi and vim users.

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« Reply #112 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 17:09:19 »
One further thought - there are a couple of Linux layout options offered by Unicomp (link). Could the Ctrl, Caps-Lock and Esc keycaps required for those layouts be incorporated into the Linux kit?

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« Reply #113 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 17:23:24 »
The wiki doesn't have details to order the starcraft doubleshots... how do i procede?

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« Reply #114 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 17:46:04 »
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The wiki doesn't have details to order the starcraft doubleshots... how do i procede?

With caution and patience. :) This round is just getting started, you have plenty of time yet and the details are still being updated.
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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 18:16:38 »
This is fantastic!

Please include Danish layout (as in round 3), and ISO RGB modifier kit (ISO sized left and right SHIFT).

Tanks!

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« Reply #116 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 18:25:48 »
Forget my post - I see that both are already included.

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« Reply #117 on: Wed, 03 August 2011, 20:35:37 »
Quote from: hashbaz;392331
Also, how about a 1.75 "Escape" key?  Anyone besides me have caps lock mapped to escape for vim?

Me. I'll second that.

Also, quick question on the Star Wars keys: These will be of the profile that fits Filco, right? I wanna get quite a few pairs, but they gotta fit the Filco/Poker profile.
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« Reply #118 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 01:47:50 »
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Why do the East Asians always get the best stuff?

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edit: before you ask: It is doable, except that the font will be a bit thinner.

If I could order this in Danish layout, it'd be so freeking awesome!

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« Reply #119 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 01:57:32 »
Hi guys,
I've got G80-3000 LSCDE (iso layout) keyboard. If I want to replace my keys (I do not want the german ones) I should buy Standard kit and J-shape return plus 1.25 units shift, right? And what about the spacebar?
Will it fit?

Thanks for clarification!

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« Reply #120 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 02:10:01 »
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Hi guys,
I've got G80-3000 LSCDE (iso layout) keyboard. If I want to replace my keys (I do not want the german ones) I should buy Standard kit and J-shape return plus 1.25 units shift, right? And what about the spacebar?
Will it fit?

Thanks for clarification!

 
Yes, there is a spacebar that fits (6.25 units).
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« Reply #121 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 03:07:17 »
Forgive my incompetence!

If I would like a red on white set in danish layout (ISO) with RGB modifiers, the order should be:

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1
BIANCO/RGBMOD 1
BIANCO/SHIFT125/WHITE/GREEN 1

Is it correct that shift is green in RGBMOD set? And will the green ISO-SHIFT be the same as in the RGBMOD set?

Thanks for the help :)

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« Reply #122 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 04:42:22 »
Quote from: pederlol;392737
Forgive my incompetence!

If I would like a red on white set in danish layout (ISO) with RGB modifiers, the order should be:

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1
BIANCO/RGBMOD 1
BIANCO/SHIFT125/WHITE/GREEN 1

Is it correct that shift is green in RGBMOD set? And will the green ISO-SHIFT be the same as in the RGBMOD set?

Thanks for the help :)

OK, I see the problem.

Here are the new order IDs for the RGB keys:
*RGB101 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 101 key ANSI layout
*RGB104 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 104 key ANSI layout
*RGB102 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 102 key ISO layout
*RGB105 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 105 key ISO layout
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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 05:48:48 »
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OK, I see the problem.

Here are the new order IDs for the RGB keys:
*RGB101 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 101 key ANSI layout
*RGB104 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 104 key ANSI layout
*RGB102 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 102 key ISO layout
*RGB105 contains all the classic RGB modifiers with Escape key for 105 key ISO layout

That is fantastic, thanks!

Still, could you confirm that

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1

will give me a red on white set in danish layout (ISO) that I can use for my Filco 105?
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« Reply #124 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 08:05:10 »
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That is fantastic, thanks!

Still, could you confirm that

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1

will give me a red on white set in danish layout (ISO) that I can use for my Filco 105?

 
BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1
BIANCO/SPACE 1

Please notice that you don't need to specify the color here because the space bar comes in the kits defalt color by default.
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« Reply #125 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 08:40:00 »
So for my G80-3000 with ISO layout, the full order will be:

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/JRET/RED 1
BIANCO/SPACE 1

And could I order some key puller?

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« Reply #126 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 08:48:19 »
Somewhat I feel that you made it. It's more complicated than last time...

I'm waiting for round 5, one letter codes, each keycap unique base64 8-letter string ;D
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« Reply #127 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 09:02:06 »
Maybe I missed it, but is there an option with Control for the usual Caps Lock location, and Caps Lock relocated to either a single-size key (such as the F-row) or a 1.25 modifier location?  I still use Caps Lock relatively often and yet have seen the light regarding Row 2 CTRL.  Call me awkward...
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« Reply #128 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 10:23:27 »
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LOL I like it. ;)


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« Reply #129 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 13:13:10 »
wow, i can't belive i missed group buy 4. guess i have to wait for 5
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« Reply #130 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 13:20:09 »
Que¿ Round 4 is just getting started...
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« Reply #131 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 13:22:14 »
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wow, i can't belive i missed group buy 4. guess i have to wait for 5

Quote from: gimpster;392986
Que¿ Round 4 is just getting started...

My attempt at humor has apparently failed.  :P

Sorry for the confusion.  I was being facetious about how long it'd take to get a "SHOUT" Caps Lock key made (if ever).
                          
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« Reply #132 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 13:29:52 »
Quote from: artee;392816
So for my G80-3000 with ISO layout, the full order will be:

BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/JRET/RED 1
BIANCO/SPACE 1

And could I order some key puller?

Like in Round 4:
TOOL 1

There will be no TOY (Wanna Switch?) key puller becuase it scratches the keys and I want to concentrate on key caps.

ps: I will start to send out spam^wnotifications over the week-end.

Quote from: Ekaros;392818
Somewhat I feel that you made it. It's more complicated than last time...

I'm waiting for round 5, one letter codes, each keycap unique base64 8-letter string ;D

 
Great idea!

artee's order would look like this:

BISTREWH 1
BIJRREWH 1
BIS6NAWH 1
TOOLNANN 1



Quote from: nathanscribe;392822
Maybe I missed it, but is there an option with Control for the usual Caps Lock location, and Caps Lock relocated to either a single-size key (such as the F-row) or a 1.25 modifier location?  I still use Caps Lock relatively often and yet have seen the light regarding Row 2 CTRL.  Call me awkward...

 
1.75 units Control is available in the MODIFIER kit.
1 units Caps Lock is available in the FUNCTION kit
1.25 units Caps Lock might be available in the MODIFIER kit.
1.5 units Caps Lock is available in the ONEHALFMOD kit.

Quote from: noodles256;392981
wow, i can't belive i missed group buy 4. guess i have to wait for 5

 
It's not too late!

As before, you can add new kits within the last seconds before they start production.
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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 14:14:37 »
Wiki: Because there are some language kits left over, there will be an Round 3 Standard kit available in the GE/GX color scheme, with some additional add-on kits.

Which?

I'd like spacebars, CH1800, ONEHALFMOD, maybe an additional STD87, maybe MOD or MODIFIER.

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« Reply #134 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 14:18:59 »
What about RGB for Spherical?

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« Reply #135 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 14:20:11 »
Quote from: 7bit;392996

 
Great idea!

artee's order would look like this:

BISTREWH 1
BIJRREWH 1
BIS6NAWH 1
TOOLNANN 1



No no no, that's too easy. If I want c in profile 1 and 3 in profile 2? Each letter must have individual code for any combination of profiles or colors ;D
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« Reply #136 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 14:42:33 »
Will gamer kit's from Round 3 be available? Didn't see them in the Wiki yet but then again this just started, but thought I'll ask
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« Reply #137 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 14:45:20 »
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Wiki: Because there are some language kits left over, there will be an Round 3 Standard kit available in the GE/GX color scheme, with some additional add-on kits.

Which?

I'd like spacebars, CH1800, ONEHALFMOD, maybe an additional STD87, maybe MOD or MODIFIER.

 
If there is enough demand, all will be available!

Order-IDs:
ROUND3/STD87
ROUND3/ONEHALFMOD
etc.


Quote from: dux;393031
What about RGB for Spherical?

 
No problem, except we need the molds made for some of the missing keys (esp. 6,25 and 7 units space bar)
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« Reply #138 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 15:09:14 »
Another set of questions :-) I'm very indecisive. When will be the estimated end of orders? And if I wanted the color scheme from round3, i should order

ROUND3/STD/WHITE/GREY 1
ROUND3/SPACE/WHITE/GREY 1
ROUND3/JRET/WHITE/GREY 1

and it will look exactly the same as this picture from round3  http://i.imgur.com/Y9OSW.jpg (surprised ripster?) except for the layout. Will there be any pictures for BIANCO kit available?

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« Reply #139 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 15:13:22 »
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No no no, that's too easy. If I want c in profile 1 and 3 in profile 2? Each letter must have individual code for any combination of profiles or colors ;D

 
Ah, yes!

CDCSR4U100RAxWAxTLxc
(Cherry, DCS-family, row 4, 1 unit, red on white, top-left, label "c")

CSAR4U100BExWAxCCx3
(Cherry, SA-family, row 4, 1 unit, blue on white, centered, label "3")

Now a more complicated key:
ADCSR4U125WAxOASxBLx--tux--
(ALPS, DCS-family, row 4, 1.25 units, white on orange, bottom-left, graphic label "tux.svg")

This one you must guess:
CDCSR3U175sNNxGSCxCCx--handbag--


Is that better?

Quote from: artee;393062
Another set of questions :-) I'm very indecisive. When will be the estimated end of orders? And if I wanted the color scheme from round3, i should order

ROUND3/STD/WHITE/GREY 1
ROUND3/SPACE/WHITE/GREY 1
ROUND3/JRET/WHITE/GREY 1

and it will look exactly the same as this picture from round3  http://i.imgur.com/Y9OSW.jpg (surprised ripster?) except for the layout. Will there be any pictures for BIANCO kit available?

I see here a little problem.

STD and STD87 should consist of GE and GX colored keys, so the color-choice makes no sense.

It does not matter in the BIANCO or DARK kits, because these come in one color.

Might be a problem again with the RETRO kit.

I will try to find a soloution over the week-end...
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« Reply #140 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 15:23:54 »
Quote from: 7bit;393045

No problem, except we need the molds made for some of the missing keys (esp. 6,25 and 7 units space bar)

From Deskthority Sphericals thread:
Important: Keys larger than 1 unit are only available for row 3!


So we are also missing Tab, Backspace and |\?

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« Reply #141 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 15:29:42 »
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From Deskthority Sphericals thread:
Important: Keys larger than 1 unit are only available for row 3!


So we are also missing Tab, Backspace and |\?

 
Not quite, because it is possible to use row 3 keys on them. But again, we are trying to find a solution for that.
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« Reply #142 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 16:37:21 »
i become heavy headache if i look R4 Wiki....

SPH (Spherical kit for Cherry MX)
what is in the kit?
and what the does this mean "...colored add-on kits..."

kits contain add-on kits with several colors - :boom:

i want keycaps but i am to dump to vote :redface:

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« Reply #143 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 16:44:42 »
Quote from: CeeSA;393103
i become heavy headache if i look R4 Wiki....

SPH (Spherical kit for Cherry MX)
what is in the kit?
and what the does this mean "...colored add-on kits..."

kits contain add-on kits with several colors - :boom:

i want keycaps but i am to dump to vote :redface:

On the bottom of the wiki there is a link to the discussion thread about sphericals.

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« Reply #144 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 17:02:18 »
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BIANCO/STD/RED 1
BIANCO/DK/RED 1
BIANCO/SPACE 1

Please notice that you don't need to specify the color here because the space bar comes in the kits defalt color by default.


Thanks again! One last question: If I would order the RETRO kit, only two arguements are nessecary, right? I.e.

RETRO/STD 1

would give me the default color "A-Z and punctuation keys in lightblue on gray, or light gray, maybe some cold white"?

Offline 7bit

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« Reply #145 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 17:05:03 »
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i become heavy headache if i look R4 Wiki....

SPH (Spherical kit for Cherry MX)
what is in the kit?
and what the does this mean "...colored add-on kits..."

kits contain add-on kits with several colors - :boom:

i want keycaps but i am to dump to vote :redface:

When you want to (pre-)order something like the sperical kit:
SPH/STD 1

Add-on kits contain keys which might be useful to some people, but are not necessary to cover a 104 key standard keyboard.

I will clean up the wiki over the week-end.

« Last Edit: Thu, 04 August 2011, 17:12:10 by 7bit »
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Offline dux

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« Reply #146 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 17:53:14 »
Now I have to ask one more thing: what about those narrow fonts on the Enter and Shift keys of the Round 3 kit? Will they be corrected, to the same size as Backspace, Meta, Control, Tab?

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« Reply #147 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 18:23:59 »
No more doubleshots for me. I doubleshat my brains out on the last group buy.

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« Reply #148 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 18:29:13 »
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I doubleshat my brains out on the last group buy.

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Offline Lewserr

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« Reply #149 on: Thu, 04 August 2011, 19:23:54 »
Ok, so first post here goes nothing. Thought I'd attempt to jump on this group buy while it's just starting. Will be buying a Filco MJ2 TKL UK version (ISO?) in the next week or so when they come back in stock at The Keyboard Company. Having seen Ripsters guide on using double shot keycaps on his Filco (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6924) I've decided I'd like to do this on mine as well.

Having a look through the colours and styles it doesn't look like there is a black key with white text option other than the ROUND3 (the black there is listed as GX rather than NN, not sure on the difference there). Just wondering if it would be best trying to find an old Cherry Keyboard (seems like hard work and especially for a UK layout) mentioned in his thread or joining in on this group buy if it was possible to have black keys in white text. Would the UK language kit be in the same colour scheme too if I ordered it?

Them SC2 and star wars keys look awesome too :D.
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