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Title: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:06:44
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(https://i.imgur.com/tTQHyJU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/W4mXYvU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2y9Tjik.png)

BASE KIT
at 120 = 103,30 EUR not including tax. / 123,00 EUR including tax
at 250 = 95,00 EUR / 113,00 EUR
at 500 = 88,00 EUR / 105,00 EUR

NORDE KIT
at 100 = 33,60 EUR not including tax. / 40,00 EUR including tax
at 150 = 29,50 EUR / 35,00 EUR
at 250 = 25,20 EUR / 30,00 EUR

RED PACK
at 100 = 26,89 EUR not including tax. / 32,00 EUR including tax
at 150 = 23,52 EUR / 28,00 EUR
at 250 = 21,84 EUR / 26,00 EUR

SPACEBAR KIT
at 100 = 13,44 EUR not including tax. / 16,00 EUR including tax

GMK Fishbed - This keycap set is based on the cockpit of the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 fighter jet. The MIG-21 has been in service since 1956 and has served in over 60 countries. The jet currently holds the record of being the most produced super-sonic jet-fighter in aviation history. “Fishbed” is the NATO reporting name of the jet, it is also known as “pencil” or “balalaika” thanks to the unique shape of its fuselage.
The cockpit is unique due to its layout and its green turquoise color, the color has been used throughout all the generations and was selected by USSR as it is supposed to relax your eyes and keep them from getting tired. It was also believed that the color reduced stress in combat situations and is excellent at highlighting locations of dials.

GMK Fishbed was purely inspired by the interior of the MIG-21. The black modifier keys reflect the dials in the cockpit with their old beige radium labels. We will make any further changes to make the set even more accurate to the cockpit if needed, we do need to work around what colors we can get.
The red ESC key is just an idea for now, we like it to give the set some spark.
Legends probably need working on, either we take something related to the cockpit, very old, or we take something very new.

We just wanted to see how many people would be interested, we are working on novelty keys taken from the jet. We are open to suggestions, we are still working on all the add-on keys and packs. We chose SA because they have this great old-style look that would fit this set well. The market is unbelievably flooded with GMK sets at the moment so we will be waiting for the release. If there is enough interest to make it a GMK set, we would be willing to do that too. Looks like there is enough interest for GMK instead of SA. Changed!

Picture of Cockpit:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/MiG-21_cockpit.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/1sPCvSj.png)

NEWEST UPDATE - Cleared this part so there is a nicer overview of what is happening.

Pricing - They are coming tomorrow, waiting on response from GMK, we are hoping to sell this at around 100 EUR for US Customers and 120 for EU (due to tax), I will be talking with GMK to optimise costs and figure out molds that they might already have (such as novelty arrows or Soviet Novelty)

Time - I hope to have this GB started by the end of January, why? I would like to now spread the word about it with your help, discuss the final touches (since there are some keys to be still completed) and then also finish off renders.

Packs - Would love to have this kit with a NORDIC pack, the Red Pack and possibly a space-bar/blank pack that will fill in the rest.

Where will it be available? - www.candykeys.com

Shipping Price - Ship to US for 11 EUR (not tracked and cheapest method) or 25 EUR (tracked and insured)
                       Ship to Germany for around 4.50 EUR
                       Ship to EU for 11 EUR (Anywhere with insurance and tracking)

Cables - There will be CandyCables provided for this set, you will be able to get a cable at a ridicolously cheap price if you purchase it with the set.

UPDATE - 1st of March
RENDERS by Oblotzky - Awesome stuff, thanks man!

(https://i.imgur.com/tTQHyJU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/W4mXYvU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2y9Tjik.png)

The final 2d renders, this is updated, removed and added a few things after many suggestions:

(https://imgur.com/9Qi9aLq.png)

The set is really great, happy with the way it turned out after all these months of waiting, the dark Soviet theme is felt and I can not complain, we might have a small vote on the Ins key which has a white legend due to contrast but that will probably change to black.
The pricing is INCLUDING PAYPAL FEES and CREDIT CARD FEES. The GB will be available tomorrow on our website www.candykeys.com, no proxies but you do not pay EU taxes and it is still a very very very good deal in our minds. This should come off as one of a cheaper GMK sets out there. Thanks a lot all!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:40:53
Ohh this looks nice!  I'd be in for a GMK set.


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Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: clickityClackity on Mon, 21 August 2017, 21:04:28
Beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 22 August 2017, 03:37:27
Ohh this looks nice!  I'd be in for a GMK set.


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If it would be GMK, the release date would be in around 3 months because of the upcoming sets we have coming and simply an overload of sets in that time-period. But lets see :)
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 22 August 2017, 05:03:49
Ohh this looks nice!  I'd be in for a GMK set.


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If it would be GMK, the release date would be in around 3 months because of the upcoming sets we have coming and simply an overload of sets in that time-period. But lets see :)

3 months is not bad at all. I will wait patiently with my fingers crossed.



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Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: SpareWalrus on Tue, 22 August 2017, 09:08:36
Ohh this looks nice!  I'd be in for a GMK set.


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If it would be GMK, the release date would be in around 3 months because of the upcoming sets we have coming and simply an overload of sets in that time-period. But lets see :)

3 months is not bad at all. I will wait patiently with my fingers crossed.



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I would also be in for GMK. Don't mind waiting a few months either. This set looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: Rumblehotep on Tue, 22 August 2017, 13:19:00
This would be tight with one of numberfive's pilot artisans
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: hoq on Tue, 22 August 2017, 21:47:36
this looks nice!
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 22 August 2017, 22:05:05
I was really digging this set until I read SA.. I can't stand the profile caps to tall and the way they are shaped feels terrible. I guess each there own thought can't understand why its so popular. There any chance these might be done in another profile other then SA?
Title: Re: [IC] SA Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 23 August 2017, 06:19:29
I was really digging this set until I read SA.. I can't stand the profile caps to tall and the way they are shaped feels terrible. I guess each there own thought can't understand why its so popular. There any chance these might be done in another profile other then SA?

By the looks of it it will be GMK
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: lovetree on Wed, 23 August 2017, 06:36:55
Oh, no. It was surely SA Fishbed yesterday. But it has been changed into GMK suddenly!  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 23 August 2017, 06:43:46
Oh, no. It was surely SA Fishbed yesterday. But it has been changed into GMK suddenly!  :-[

People seem to want GMK, we will probably make a vote after knowing what the other keys will be looking like :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: monkeysontoast on Wed, 23 August 2017, 19:06:01
Really liking this. Can't wait to see more renders, and what you choose to do for the legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 23 August 2017, 23:29:55
Yay GMK. And a few months is good. My wallet needs to prepare for the coming GMK Flood.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: My_Thoughts on Thu, 24 August 2017, 06:11:47
I'm interested in where this goes :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 24 August 2017, 07:52:10
I'm interested in where this goes :)

Hopefully it will "sky rocket"  :p :D

Update: We are talking with GMK regarding legends/font, our person at GMK is not available until the 03.09 so we will work on the novelties and the compatibility of set. We are open for any input or ideas :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 24 August 2017, 21:36:05
Oh, no. It was surely SA Fishbed yesterday. But it has been changed into GMK suddenly!  :-[

if it stays GMK I am totally down for this set! It look perfect on my first build since the case would be teal. Those keys just look amazing! I am stoked! Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Sat, 26 August 2017, 16:02:07
Semi-related question, but saw you guys sold GMK sets. Do you plan to get more sets in stock?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 26 August 2017, 16:20:31
Does Candykeys ship to US?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 26 August 2017, 20:24:05
Semi-related question, but saw you guys sold GMK sets. Do you plan to get more sets in stock?

Yes :) Already on their way.

Does Candykeys ship to US?

Yes, only on certain products, we do ship worldwide. For things like this, we will give very attractive international prices.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Koobaczech on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:47:05
Down for an SA set :) Great colors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:27:14
Small Novelty Keys Update -

Thinking about the Novelties, who would want the Mikoyan and Gurevich Design Bureau logo as one? Maybe modified it a bit, here is the idea:

(http://i.imgur.com/w8max8E.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/e73L2OE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/USwrEAi.png)



Down for an SA set :) Great colors

Aaarghh, GMK is <3, maybe SA set later. If GMK will not work, we might get MAXKEYS onboard since it could make it a more affordable set :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 10 September 2017, 16:44:28
Update: Base Kit Completed, open for suggestions and changes. Large Red Spacebar changing, ESC key as well.

(https://imgur.com/ezB8kVX.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Draic on Mon, 11 September 2017, 02:13:34
will there be addon sets? Split spacebar, 40% support, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 11 September 2017, 03:40:47
will there be addon sets? Split spacebar, 40% support, etc.

Depends on the interest so we can hit MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 September 2017, 16:13:23
(https://imgur.com/lcJGAjV.jpg)

Testing out what colors look like, rendering a few things.
Looks like it will stay, working on novelties: a few ideas - Soviet Union Star, US Air Force logo, Aircraft Crosshairs and FIRE keycap.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 13 September 2017, 16:58:05
Candy is there any ETA on this set I doubt it happen before October but I can hope right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 September 2017, 18:57:42
Candy is there any ETA on this set I doubt it happen before October but I can hope right?

Probably in time for Christmas. Still needs a lot of development, thought and then we need to make way for the other GMK sets.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 13 September 2017, 19:24:29
sweet the board I want them for building in October! so I buy some cheap'o's to use on it till these hit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 21 September 2017, 06:39:36
Render Picture 1 - Render by CandyKeys

(https://i.imgur.com/X0adgUw.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Fri, 22 September 2017, 03:30:29
This looks pretty sweet. Just registered to ask whether there are plans for a NorDe set or any such international flavor?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 24 September 2017, 06:39:22
This looks pretty sweet. Just registered to ask whether there are plans for a NorDe set or any such international flavor?

Yes there are :) Releasing this coming week.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Startracker on Tue, 26 September 2017, 15:18:11
I have looked 20 years for the perfect nuance of turquoise, my favorite color. Now thanks to you, I know it's the one inside the MIG 21 Fishbed cockpit.Thanks !

By the way, as for the novelty cap, I really like your first proposition, turquoise and yellow are pairing quite well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 26 September 2017, 15:50:15
Candy do we have a price on this release I am totally in? I can't wait I am a bit sad I most likely have to skip laser since lot of people think thats dropping next month but Sacrifices must be made!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:38:39
(https://i.imgur.com/K0HBH69.png)

This is the top view, fonts are a bit off from GMK but it works.

Novelties and NORDE pack hopefully released by Sunday, then we will release a form on our website to check the interest.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Thu, 28 September 2017, 09:16:57
Looks good. Would you consider using a ISO enter key as the same colors as modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: klove4252 on Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:29:50
This looks incredible. I would jump all over this if released.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Sporty on Tue, 03 October 2017, 13:06:16
I'd love an ISO version of this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: threedawg on Thu, 05 October 2017, 01:23:24
really like the color scheme, btw any chance of alpha with cyrillic legend? Like the one used for Originative set (Classic Retro Cyrillic)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 05 October 2017, 09:31:37
UPDATE -

Got color samples from GMK, we are looking at around a price of 115 EUR for the whole thing since there are no crazy custom colors or anything involved.

Looking at using:
 - TU2 for the Alphas, with CR Legends
 - BV with BJ for Modifiers
 - P3 Escape Key
         
NORDE kit is complete, Our team is just finishing off the renders

(https://i.imgur.com/5g57QnB.png)

I'd love an ISO version of this set.

Its coming, we are a EU store :)

Looks good. Would you consider using a ISO enter key as the same colors as modifiers?

Yes, and maybe a red one too.

This looks incredible. I would jump all over this if released.

Hopefully will be :)

really like the color scheme, btw any chance of alpha with cyrillic legend? Like the one used for Originative set (Classic Retro Cyrillic)

Not sure if there is the demand for that.



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 05 October 2017, 12:30:06
we are looking at around a price of 115 EUR for the whole thing
How could anyone pass then?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 05 October 2017, 13:45:08
Maybe It's just me, but in the renders the legends on the modifiers seems to be almost golden and not medium beige like BJ.

I still think it would look great (actually, BJ on BV looks fantanstic!), but I'm not sure the renders are accurate.

Here's a quick reference (click for larger image):

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Man, I hate to say it, but I'm about to buy another GMK set with TU2 in it.  I really like the looks of this.  Well done.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: FilthyMike720 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 14:20:37
You had me at GMK...

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 05 October 2017, 14:35:34
Maybe It's just me, but in the renders the legends on the modifiers seems to be almost golden and not medium beige like BJ.

I still think it would look great (actually, BJ on BV looks fantanstic!), but I'm not sure the renders are accurate.

Here's a quick reference (click for larger image):

(Attachment Link)

Man, I hate to say it, but I'm about to buy another GMK set with TU2 in it.  I really like the looks of this.  Well done.

I agree the renders look golden/bronze to me also.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Thu, 05 October 2017, 14:54:09
Are there going to be any MiG/Soviet themed modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 05 October 2017, 16:39:48
Maybe It's just me, but in the renders the legends on the modifiers seems to be almost golden and not medium beige like BJ.

I still think it would look great (actually, BJ on BV looks fantanstic!), but I'm not sure the renders are accurate.

Here's a quick reference (click for larger image):

(Attachment Link)

Man, I hate to say it, but I'm about to buy another GMK set with TU2 in it.  I really like the looks of this.  Well done.

I agree the renders look golden/bronze to me also.

Will be honest, we did not have the exact color codes from GMK. We could ask GMK for a custom color, do we want that? It will up the price.
I will re-do renders soon with better colors. You are right :) Thanks for pointing it out!

Are there going to be any MiG/Soviet themed modifiers?

working on it. We just need to make sure there are no copyright issues. We really want to throw in a MIG logo :)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 05 October 2017, 16:50:48
I think BJ will look good.  I don't particularly want to pay extra to change that aspect.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Thu, 05 October 2017, 17:01:55
Problem with custom colors is that MOQ is now 250. As i understand it, this set will be ran solely by you guys? Hitting the 250 MOQ is not easy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 05 October 2017, 17:06:49
Problem with custom colors is that MOQ is now 250. As i understand it, this set will be ran solely by you guys? Hitting the 250 MOQ is not easy.

Yeah, I think that is only for custom colors. They are our "Freunde" so we can always talk to them about it. 150 is what we want though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 05 October 2017, 19:48:02
Maybe It's just me, but in the renders the legends on the modifiers seems to be almost golden and not medium beige like BJ.

I still think it would look great (actually, BJ on BV looks fantanstic!), but I'm not sure the renders are accurate.

Here's a quick reference (click for larger image):

(Attachment Link)

Man, I hate to say it, but I'm about to buy another GMK set with TU2 in it.  I really like the looks of this.  Well done.

I agree the renders look golden/bronze to me also.

Will be honest, we did not have the exact color codes from GMK. We could ask GMK for a custom color, do we want that? It will up the price.
I will re-do renders soon with better colors. You are right :) Thanks for pointing it out!

Are there going to be any MiG/Soviet themed modifiers?

working on it. We just need to make sure there are no copyright issues. We really want to throw in a MIG logo :)

Once we see re renders it will be easier to tell. Also how much would it up the price of the set? I do kinda want it to be affordable I know there lot of sets that are insanely expensive seems like 185 USD seems to be upward's amount of what a GMK set cost.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 05 October 2017, 23:11:58
Will you able to ship these to Canada? Any idea on what the shipping fees will be?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 08 October 2017, 09:12:20
Will you able to ship these to Canada? Any idea on what the shipping fees will be?

Same as what we have for Eclipse now, I think it was around 12 EUR per Set if you take the economy option.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 11 October 2017, 12:48:48
(https://i.imgur.com/zINKDiX.png)

Updated with U9 Color, what do you guys think?

I still need to design the original legends from GMK for the numpad, otherwise it is pretty accurate. Also thinking of maybe changing the arrows, would add the price but it gives the nice MIG/Jet styled arrows.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 11 October 2017, 13:46:08
I hate to say it Candy but was really digging the deeper copper/gold tones of the original. How much cost wise would it add to go with the original colors? I know the current GB I mentioned the price but... I don't have a board I want to use that one on yet.. vs this one I got plans for already. The arrows go I kinda like the ones you have there not just simple arrows.. they look some what unique I think.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Wed, 11 October 2017, 15:13:14
That does look great, but I hope the red accent keys don't disappear altogether. There's a lot of little red touches in the cockpit. The usual red esc and enter would be great.

But I also appreciate that the Windows logo is gone. It looked very out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: DasGnome on Wed, 11 October 2017, 16:01:03
Looks great with the U9 mods. I dig the history behind the set. I think a red enter would really bring the whole idea together.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 13 October 2017, 05:01:01
UPDATE - The Red Novelty Pack

(https://i.imgur.com/0dafaCX.png)

That does look great, but I hope the red accent keys don't disappear altogether. There's a lot of little red touches in the cockpit. The usual red esc and enter would be great.

But I also appreciate that the Windows logo is gone. It looked very out of place.

here ya go.
Looks great with the U9 mods. I dig the history behind the set. I think a red enter would really bring the whole idea together.


here ya go.

I hate to say it Candy but was really digging the deeper copper/gold tones of the original. How much cost wise would it add to go with the original colors? I know the current GB I mentioned the price but... I don't have a board I want to use that one on yet.. vs this one I got plans for already. The arrows go I kinda like the ones you have there not just simple arrows.. they look some what unique I think.


I will have a look at the colors again and provide another option.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Fri, 13 October 2017, 05:34:57
Absolutely fabulous. I'll be ordering a set as soon as they come available.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 13 October 2017, 09:47:41
That Eject is hot, sir.  Did you try the U9 color on red?  I would like to use the red eject and red fire but their legends are different colors.  U9 probably wouldn’t look as good on the eject though.  But maybe if the esc and fire legends were U9?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 13 October 2017, 10:20:04
That Eject is hot
It is and I'd happily buy a set of different colours.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 14 October 2017, 01:21:31
Definitely digging the history and red accents as others have said already. Just out of interest, how close are these colours to pulse?


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 14 October 2017, 01:37:44
UPDATE - The Red Novelty Pack

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0dafaCX.png)


That does look great, but I hope the red accent keys don't disappear altogether. There's a lot of little red touches in the cockpit. The usual red esc and enter would be great.

But I also appreciate that the Windows logo is gone. It looked very out of place.


here ya go.
Looks great with the U9 mods. I dig the history behind the set. I think a red enter would really bring the whole idea together.


here ya go.

I hate to say it Candy but was really digging the deeper copper/gold tones of the original. How much cost wise would it add to go with the original colors? I know the current GB I mentioned the price but... I don't have a board I want to use that one on yet.. vs this one I got plans for already. The arrows go I kinda like the ones you have there not just simple arrows.. they look some what unique I think.


I will have a look at the colors again and provide another option.
Never mind Candy your novelties made up for it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 14 October 2017, 01:44:19
Very interested, the novelties are hot as chili, when GB open?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 15 October 2017, 07:54:14
UPDATE - The Red Novelty Pack

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0dafaCX.png)


I’m not gonna lie. I learned pilot speak from ID4. When I saw the pictures I was all like “why does the Fox-two button say ‘Fire’?!?!”  :p

Do want tho lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Sun, 15 October 2017, 11:14:12
(https://prvqcq.bn1303.livefilestore.com/y4mMMZhh-b3iVNNj08K6zw7ea9paWIkGUE_36VkMJqw4KcD4oebfd2YhvOVNPnpkHx9Y3tgxx-w6zTtyrATXXBwNIfyMH1_bi4R9_TrGdNVpZhMByS73ED3rURn_owFEHT-mFMUw-7RpL3UzsyQop4aKXDqGzZYfGVvIUQMh8GSv0LYj67044F0saDHMliCc5QmSn3SwZMcqNKfPcVm9J7ZyQ?width=1057&height=397&cropmode=none)

ideas for accent keys
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 15 October 2017, 11:40:34
  Is there any chance that we can get a standard enter key in the black colour way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 15 October 2017, 11:41:30
  Is there any chance that we can get a standard enter key in the black colour way.

Just to clarify. A black enter key in addition to the red “fire” key.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 15 October 2017, 11:42:50
  Is there any chance that we can get a standard enter key in the black colour way.

Oh that's a good point.  I agree the base set should have the regular "Enter" instead of the "Fire" legend.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:15:48
Also, I don't know how realistic this would be, but in the novelty pack, would it be possible to also include arrows in the alpha colour way?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 15 October 2017, 13:30:13
Sorry me again.

Will you be going with just text modifiers for sure or will the final set have text/icon like the original renders?

I personally loved the text/icon modifiers on the original render.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 18 October 2017, 04:47:31
UPDATE - Listened to the comments, still have to decide on arrows and then get the real GMK Symbols on some keycaps. Added the Warning lights as suggested, added ISO Key, added compatibility pack. Removed the plane Enter keycap, looking at potential replacements, something better.

TO BE DONE
- NORDE/EU PACK Any Ideas? I think we can cut down a normal NORDE kit to have the basic EU keys, would like to keep the price down

How do people like the compatibility pack compared to the old one?

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Sorry me again.

Will you be going with just text modifiers for sure or will the final set have text/icon like the original renders?

I personally loved the text/icon modifiers on the original render.

Im digging the text for now.

Also, I don't know how realistic this would be, but in the novelty pack, would it be possible to also include arrows in the alpha colour way?

done

  Is there any chance that we can get a standard enter key in the black colour way.

Just to clarify. A black enter key in addition to the red “fire” key.



Took away "FIRE" on the normal keys, I like Enter, keeps the price low.

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ideas for accent keys

Check the render, do we want the other keys that the cockpit would have as warning lights? I personally like having real aviation terms on the keycaps, as they are warning lights afterall.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Wed, 18 October 2017, 04:54:40
NORDE/EU PACK:
i think the question here, is how MOQ should be solved and if you guys are prepared to buy up the rest of the 50-75 needed.
Yuri had like 1000 base, 40 norde/int, nautilus 2400 base, 100 norde/int. This trend is approx the same.

Set looks good otherwise! What teal/cyan color is used? One suggestion; numpad enter, change it to "enter" instead and include a red enter with the "fire" text instead in color pack. (I assume this is it's own kit?)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Wed, 18 October 2017, 07:38:42
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Wed, 18 October 2017, 09:42:23
That does look great. And I agree with the previous guy, the traffic light prntsc/pause/scrlock are a bit superfluous. Also, if there's a red Eject, there's no need to have a red Esc. That is, if cutting those brings down the cost.

And the red buttons might look better with legends in the same white/cream color as with the modifiers.

For Norde, the kind of kit Nautilus has would be fine.

Also one note about losing the MiG enter: after that, there isn't anything to tie this set to that specific plane model. Just a generic Russian fighter aesthetics. Which isn't necessarily bad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:18:06
I mean, I'm not really into fighter jets, but this set really looks nice to me  :thumb: :thumb:

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Venediction on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:27:35
I waaaaant!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:55:03
That does look great. And I agree with the previous guy, the traffic light prntsc/pause/scrlock are a bit superfluous. Also, if there's a red Eject, there's no need to have a red Esc. That is, if cutting those brings down the cost.

And the red buttons might look better with legends in the same white/cream color as with the modifiers.

For Norde, the kind of kit Nautilus has would be fine.

Also one note about losing the MiG enter: after that, there isn't anything to tie this set to that specific plane model. Just a generic Russian fighter aesthetics. Which isn't necessarily bad.

Thanks for the feedback guys, so I will cut the "traffic" light cockpit warning keys, I should then get rid of the standard legend ones and keep the "Gear", "Fuel", etc. Keys?
I maybe thought of getting the Antonov logo somewhere but would that be copyright? I think so.

I will cut the Red ESC.

I am looking at maybe a better (?) plane model to use, I think there is something we could maybe do to make it even more MIG-21 like.

NORDE/EU PACK:
i think the question here, is how MOQ should be solved and if you guys are prepared to buy up the rest of the 50-75 needed.
Yuri had like 1000 base, 40 norde/int, nautilus 2400 base, 100 norde/int. This trend is approx the same.

Set looks good otherwise! What teal/cyan color is used? One suggestion; numpad enter, change it to "enter" instead and include a red enter with the "fire" text instead in color pack. (I assume this is it's own kit?)

Sorry missed that one with the numpad enter, updating the render tonight. One render nearly 2 hours, sheesh :P Let me check the Nautilus NORDE kit as it was suggested then decide. I would personally reallyl ike to have ISO-DE as it would be good for me and also for the fact CandyKeys is a german store. I do not neccesarily agree to needed all the keys like with the EURO symbol E or the number keys, I think ISO users can live without that to cut the price.

I mean, I'm not really into fighter jets, but this set really looks nice to me  :thumb: :thumb:

Keep up the good work.

I love aviation. I hope this set will go for non-aviation enthusiasts too :)








Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 18 October 2017, 10:58:59
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I like the white line, it gives a nice touch and makes it more of a novelty key. Should we provide  ESC keys with and without a line?

We want to make this set one of a kind providing novelties that make you feel as much as possible in a cockpit, hence the warning light lights, I am thinking of making those a novelty too with lines, who says no and yes?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: packman86 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 11:04:06
The theme alone makes me want to back this project!

Can't wait to see some nice renders.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Wed, 18 October 2017, 11:06:04
That does look great. And I agree with the previous guy, the traffic light prntsc/pause/scrlock are a bit superfluous. Also, if there's a red Eject, there's no need to have a red Esc. That is, if cutting those brings down the cost.

And the red buttons might look better with legends in the same white/cream color as with the modifiers.

For Norde, the kind of kit Nautilus has would be fine.

Also one note about losing the MiG enter: after that, there isn't anything to tie this set to that specific plane model. Just a generic Russian fighter aesthetics. Which isn't necessarily bad.

I propose to change the title from "Fishbed" to "Mig" or "Sukhoi".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Wed, 18 October 2017, 11:10:46
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I like the white line, it gives a nice touch and makes it more of a novelty key. Should we provide  ESC keys with and without a line?

We want to make this set one of a kind providing novelties that make you feel as much as possible in a cockpit, hence the warning light lights, I am thinking of making those a novelty too with lines, who says no and yes?

I think you're right about the white line. It would be better to keep it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 18 October 2017, 14:36:47

Thanks for the feedback guys, so I will cut the "traffic" light cockpit warning keys, I should then get rid of the standard legend ones and keep the "Gear", "Fuel", etc. Keys?
I maybe thought of getting the Antonov logo somewhere but would that be copyright? I think so.

I will cut the Red ESC.


I agree with this guy for the most part but I do like the Red Esc key.  However I agree that the standard cockpit warning lights are a bit too much but the plane theme "Gear, Fuel" etc should stay.

The extra red esc key can be used on stand-alone numpads as well so I don't think it's too much.  Gives a nice variety.

Also the base numpad enter key still reads "fire"  Can you change that as well to enter?  And if possible have an alternate colour numpad enter key as an optional variant?  Not sure if red or the aplha colour way will work best.

Once again having an alternate colour numpad enter key will help tie in standalone numpads well.

A stepped Caps lock key would look sweet as well!

Thanks for listening to everyones feedback. I am more hyped for this set then laser!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 18 October 2017, 14:58:02

I like the white line, it gives a nice touch and makes it more of a novelty key. Should we provide  ESC keys with and without a line?

We want to make this set one of a kind providing novelties that make you feel as much as possible in a cockpit, hence the warning light lights, I am thinking of making those a novelty too with lines, who says no and yes?

I like the white line as well.  also changing the other red esc key to white font would look great.

I like the idea of having the other warning light keys in white with underline too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:19:43
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I like the white line, it gives a nice touch and makes it more of a novelty key. Should we provide  ESC keys with and without a line?

We want to make this set one of a kind providing novelties that make you feel as much as possible in a cockpit, hence the warning light lights, I am thinking of making those a novelty too with lines, who says no and yes?

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:27:40

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.

I mean if it doesn't add to significantly to the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add it in. 

For international buyers, to buy a separate red esc key alone would cost too much in shipping so it wouldn't be worth it.  But in the kit, it would make it worthwhile.

This is all assuming that extra key doesn't jack up the total kit cost by too much.
Title: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 15:38:55

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.

I mean if it doesn't add to significantly to the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add it in. 

For international buyers, to buy a separate red esc key alone would cost too much in shipping so it wouldn't be worth it.  But in the kit, it would make it worthwhile.

This is all assuming that extra key doesn't jack up the total kit cost by too much.

I more meant that only a small number of people need it. I’m sure each key is at least a couple bucks. Why add redundant keys that mostly won’t be used AND can be purchased for those that really want them?

It’s not like you are gonna use more than 1 esc key at once.

Wouldn’t it be better to either reduce price OR improve compatibility?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:10:28

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.

I mean if it doesn't add to significantly to the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add it in. 

For international buyers, to buy a separate red esc key alone would cost too much in shipping so it wouldn't be worth it.  But in the kit, it would make it worthwhile.

This is all assuming that extra key doesn't jack up the total kit cost by too much.

I more meant that only a small number of people need it. I’m sure each key is at least a couple bucks. Why add redundant keys that mostly won’t be used AND can be purchased for those that really want them?

It’s not like you are gonna use more than 1 esc key at once.

Wouldn’t it be better to either reduce price OR improve compatibility?

I get what you're saying but a lot of times I switch things up given the mood.  Like you mentioned only a small number of people might want it but it makes things easier to include in the kit if they can keep the price low. I totally understand if it jacks the price up significantly to exclude it but having that compatibility at a reasonable cost is worth it in my opinion.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:28:52

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.

I mean if it doesn't add to significantly to the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add it in. 

For international buyers, to buy a separate red esc key alone would cost too much in shipping so it wouldn't be worth it.  But in the kit, it would make it worthwhile.

This is all assuming that extra key doesn't jack up the total kit cost by too much.

I more meant that only a small number of people need it. I’m sure each key is at least a couple bucks. Why add redundant keys that mostly won’t be used AND can be purchased for those that really want them?

It’s not like you are gonna use more than 1 esc key at once.

Wouldn’t it be better to either reduce price OR improve compatibility?

I get what you're saying but a lot of times I switch things up given the mood.  Like you mentioned only a small number of people might want it but it makes things easier to include in the kit if they can keep the price low. I totally understand if it jacks the price up significantly to exclude it but having that compatibility at a reasonable cost is worth it in my opinion.

With the current GMK pricing it just doesn’t make sense to add redundant keys. I do agree it would look better if the enter matched. But that’s why the red enters should also have bars :P

I just don’t need more red esc lol. It really depends where the price is at. It’s easy to say “if it doesn’t jack the price up”. But no individual key will do that. It’s just that they add up as you go. If you just check the price of any given key, of course it makes sense to add it.

It’s not like it would stop me from buying it. I’m just saying to me lowering price is more advantageous to reaching moq than redundant esc keys.

As long as it can hit moq, the little details don’t really matter to me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:40:50

I’d just include the version with the line. It’s easy enough to buy a normal red GMK esc.

I mean if it doesn't add to significantly to the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add it in. 

For international buyers, to buy a separate red esc key alone would cost too much in shipping so it wouldn't be worth it.  But in the kit, it would make it worthwhile.

This is all assuming that extra key doesn't jack up the total kit cost by too much.

I more meant that only a small number of people need it. I’m sure each key is at least a couple bucks. Why add redundant keys that mostly won’t be used AND can be purchased for those that really want them?

It’s not like you are gonna use more than 1 esc key at once.

Wouldn’t it be better to either reduce price OR improve compatibility?

I get what you're saying but a lot of times I switch things up given the mood.  Like you mentioned only a small number of people might want it but it makes things easier to include in the kit if they can keep the price low. I totally understand if it jacks the price up significantly to exclude it but having that compatibility at a reasonable cost is worth it in my opinion.

With the current GMK pricing it just doesn’t make sense to add redundant keys. I do agree it would look better if the enter matched. But that’s why the red enters should also have bars :P

I just don’t need more red esc lol. It really depends where the price is at. It’s easy to say “if it doesn’t jack the price up”. But no individual key will do that. It’s just that they add up as you go. If you just check the price of any given key, of course it makes sense to add it.

It’s not like it would stop me from buying it. I’m just saying to me lowering price is more advantageous to reaching moq than redundant esc keys.

As long as it can hit moq, the little details don’t really matter to me.

I understand what your saying.  If leaving the key out will allow this to hit MOQ more easily, then so be it.

I can live without that key but I really want this set more. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:08:07
I am little worried about MOQ my self and hoping this gets pushed back a bit! I watching another set thats pretty nice struggle to meet MOQ.. I think its just bad timing right now. I want this set SO BAD but I also want it to happen once it goes live.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BlackInk on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:22:46
Why are we missing one enter key in the novel pack? Where is the other one go
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 30 October 2017, 22:42:41
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:00:20
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:56:18
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Thanks for the heads up. Hope everything is ok with Candykeys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:09:35
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Havent vanished, there simply were no purchases. We are a team here, so its not a single person, sorry about the non posting but there were a lot of things to do around the clock including sealing a deal with Topre to provide ISO keyboards for you and etc. GMK Fishbed is frozen for the time being, we will re-render and do the finals in 2 weeks and we think it will launch mid December.
We need to let the people who have bought sets relax their minds instead of squishing further info and cramming more sets in to where we can, it is a reason why many sets fail.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:39:23
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Havent vanished, there simply were no purchases. We are a team here, so its not a single person, sorry about the non posting but there were a lot of things to do around the clock including sealing a deal with Topre to provide ISO keyboards for you and etc. GMK Fishbed is frozen for the time being, we will re-render and do the finals in 2 weeks and we think it will launch mid December.
We need to let the people who have bought sets relax their minds instead of squishing further info and cramming more sets in to where we can, it is a reason why many sets fail.

Thats cool I was kinda worried something might have happened. Cause didn't know the website had been updated to automatically update. Typically your very vocal are the account is very vocal on the website. Then I read you had to take some person time on Reddit. I wasn't sure if something had happened are what. I am really excited for fishbed. I got my fingers crossed that when it runs it hits MOQ. I also like your doing it mid december. The hype with Laser has most likely drained most wallets. Good to see your back thought and it was nothing really wrong just busy at work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:45:33
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Havent vanished, there simply were no purchases. We are a team here, so its not a single person, sorry about the non posting but there were a lot of things to do around the clock including sealing a deal with Topre to provide ISO keyboards for you and etc. GMK Fishbed is frozen for the time being, we will re-render and do the finals in 2 weeks and we think it will launch mid December.
We need to let the people who have bought sets relax their minds instead of squishing further info and cramming more sets in to where we can, it is a reason why many sets fail.

Thats cool I was kinda worried something might have happened. Cause didn't know the website had been updated to automatically update. Typically your very vocal are the account is very vocal on the website. Then I read you had to take some person time on Reddit. I wasn't sure if something had happened are what. I am really excited for fishbed. I got my fingers crossed that when it runs it hits MOQ. I also like your doing it mid december. The hype with Laser has most likely drained most wallets. Good to see your back thought and it was nothing really wrong just busy at work.

Where did you hear we were taking time off for personal reasons :O There were 4 days of holidays (national) but there has been no time off for us since summer. Very strange...
Fishbed will be a success, we have made sure it will be :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:55:27
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Havent vanished, there simply were no purchases. We are a team here, so its not a single person, sorry about the non posting but there were a lot of things to do around the clock including sealing a deal with Topre to provide ISO keyboards for you and etc. GMK Fishbed is frozen for the time being, we will re-render and do the finals in 2 weeks and we think it will launch mid December.
We need to let the people who have bought sets relax their minds instead of squishing further info and cramming more sets in to where we can, it is a reason why many sets fail.

Thats cool I was kinda worried something might have happened. Cause didn't know the website had been updated to automatically update. Typically your very vocal are the account is very vocal on the website. Then I read you had to take some person time on Reddit. I wasn't sure if something had happened are what. I am really excited for fishbed. I got my fingers crossed that when it runs it hits MOQ. I also like your doing it mid december. The hype with Laser has most likely drained most wallets. Good to see your back thought and it was nothing really wrong just busy at work.

Where did you hear we were taking time off for personal reasons :O There were 4 days of holidays (national) but there has been no time off for us since summer. Very strange...
Fishbed will be a success, we have made sure it will be :)

Reddit post where someone mentioned you had to take time off for personal to go to Germany perhaps they just misunderstood. Are Perhaps that as business thing. Thats really good to hear.. cause fishbed is like laser to me. I don't care the cost I am getting it! Its the final touch to my first keyboard build! and its going to look so so sweet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:16:38
Any further updates on progress so far? Just curious.

Candykey's was doing another group buy and it doesn't/didn't look like it was going to hit MOQ... and also Candykey's seems to have kinda vanished. Stopped posting on the forums and he doesn't look to have been updating the website. Unless the group buys been stuck at like 28% for the past week. Yea I thinking he must be busy with RL but hopefully this runs soonish and hits MOQ.

Havent vanished, there simply were no purchases. We are a team here, so its not a single person, sorry about the non posting but there were a lot of things to do around the clock including sealing a deal with Topre to provide ISO keyboards for you and etc. GMK Fishbed is frozen for the time being, we will re-render and do the finals in 2 weeks and we think it will launch mid December.
We need to let the people who have bought sets relax their minds instead of squishing further info and cramming more sets in to where we can, it is a reason why many sets fail.

Thats cool I was kinda worried something might have happened. Cause didn't know the website had been updated to automatically update. Typically your very vocal are the account is very vocal on the website. Then I read you had to take some person time on Reddit. I wasn't sure if something had happened are what. I am really excited for fishbed. I got my fingers crossed that when it runs it hits MOQ. I also like your doing it mid december. The hype with Laser has most likely drained most wallets. Good to see your back thought and it was nothing really wrong just busy at work.

Where did you hear we were taking time off for personal reasons :O There were 4 days of holidays (national) but there has been no time off for us since summer. Very strange...
Fishbed will be a success, we have made sure it will be :)

Hope that’s a guarantee that this set will definitely be produced...;)

Great to see this set is still under way. I skipped laser entirely for this set as I have the perfect board for it!

Looking forward to further updates!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:17:29
Since the set is controlled by us and designed by us, if it reaches even a smaller MOQ than 150 we will buy up the rest of the set to make it happen :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:18:11
Since the set is controlled by us and designed by us, if it reaches even a smaller MOQ than 150 we will buy up the rest of the set to make it happen :)

That just made my Christmas!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:31:40
The set is missing the ISO key that is used next to ISO L-shift. The crocodile gap.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Mon, 06 November 2017, 16:38:33
Quote
commie novelties

How ironic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 24 November 2017, 07:19:24
This GB will be a go for December-end. Renders are being worked on now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 24 November 2017, 09:28:14
Great news, sir.  Will buy.   
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Fri, 24 November 2017, 09:56:34
Any estimations on the price for the norde kit? Would really like to know what the whole set is going to cost me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 24 November 2017, 10:08:43
This GB will be a go for December-end. Renders are being worked on now.

Hype! Can’t wait!

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Gajible on Fri, 24 November 2017, 11:47:07
Well at least it's *not* the MIG-15 NATO reporting name.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:38:15
Well at least it's the MIG-15 NATO reporting name.

MIG-21 too!

Any estimations on the price for the norde kit? Would really like to know what the whole set is going to cost me.

We are asking Christopher soon for pricing once we decide here in the thread what should stay and go keycap-wise.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 25 November 2017, 04:40:15
Man, these colors look good.

I'm excited to see BV being used. It's a new color, right? I have it on my GMK color ring but I know others don't have it/didn't receive it with theirs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TanHin on Sat, 25 November 2017, 04:42:34
Waitting for Su-27 with SP or GMK. Mig-21 good too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Sat, 25 November 2017, 10:52:58
Man, these colors look good.

I'm excited to see BV being used. It's a new color, right? I have it on my GMK color ring but I know others don't have it/didn't receive it with theirs.

Is the BV a dark brown? Hard to tell.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Sat, 25 November 2017, 15:50:52
Have you ever thought getting rid of the function keys standard legends and replace them with specific legends that fit the jet-theme, like Godspeed did it? That is to say to have something different than "ctrl" "alt", whatever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 25 November 2017, 15:54:32
I believe it's just a overlook in the original post's render, but the hammer and sickle novelty is actually rotated by ninety degrees. The sickle handle should be facing bottom left.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 26 November 2017, 04:36:02
Man, these colors look good.

I'm excited to see BV being used. It's a new color, right? I have it on my GMK color ring but I know others don't have it/didn't receive it with theirs.

Is the BV a dark brown? Hard to tell.

The best way I can think to put it is that BV is a slightly "warmer" N9. Maybe a dark grey-brown.

 This pic should help:
(https://i.imgur.com/duzVMu8.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Sun, 26 November 2017, 08:08:30
night cockpit of mig-21
How about adding a night cockpit kit as a sub-kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Sun, 26 November 2017, 09:37:11
Man, these colors look good.

I'm excited to see BV being used. It's a new color, right? I have it on my GMK color ring but I know others don't have it/didn't receive it with theirs.

Is the BV a dark brown? Hard to tell.

The best way I can think to put it is that BV is a slightly "warmer" N9. Maybe a dark grey-brown. This pic should help:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/duzVMu8.jpg)


Thanks for pic. The color look really, really good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: mbljs5555 on Tue, 28 November 2017, 14:51:42
Very aesthetically pleasing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: luismonterieart on Tue, 28 November 2017, 17:18:31
OMG, that's a yes from me right there. :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Thu, 30 November 2017, 10:13:56
Wondering what this would look like w/ Cyrillic sublegends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 30 November 2017, 16:49:16
@Candykeys

Would it be possible to create a signature banner for the set to help people get the word out?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 30 November 2017, 21:55:01
I'm sure it's been said before, but this set screams for Cryillic alphas being MiG-21 inspired. Also, please consider actually having the numpad keys without secondary legends - they look suuuper clean and nice.

If you're looking for more novelty key ideas maybe translate some of these:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/MiG-21MF_Cockpit.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 01 December 2017, 04:04:45
How about cyrillic novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 01 December 2017, 06:08:43
How about cyrillic novelties?

I thought about that too actually
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 01 December 2017, 07:49:17
I'm sure it's been said before, but this set screams for Cryillic alphas being MiG-21 inspired. Also, please consider actually having the numpad keys without secondary legends - they look suuuper clean and nice.

If you're looking for more novelty key ideas maybe translate some of these:

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/MiG-21MF_Cockpit.jpg)



I agree about the secondary legends on the numpad keys. GMK Burgundy did it and it looks amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 02 December 2017, 03:51:03
Did a super quick render just to try the colors out, they look great IMO:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371436941054574612/386453924619485194/g80-1800-icon-gmk.143.png)

yess I know the legends are off, maybe I'll fix em
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Sat, 02 December 2017, 05:22:46
tbh, the colours look a bit pale compared to the other pictures.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sat, 02 December 2017, 11:40:43
Did a super quick render just to try the colors out, they look great IMO:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371436941054574612/386453924619485194/g80-1800-icon-gmk.143.png)


yess I know the legends are off, maybe I'll fix em

Just curious. What program do you use to do the renders?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 02 December 2017, 17:28:26
Did a super quick render just to try the colors out, they look great IMO:


yess I know the legends are off, maybe I'll fix em

Just curious. What program do you use to do the renders?

modeled in Solidworks and rendered in Keyshot. Still working on getting the environment set up right, my colors always look barely off :/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sat, 02 December 2017, 20:00:28

modeled in Solidworks and rendered in Keyshot. Still working on getting the environment set up right, my colors always look barely off :/


That’s pretty cool.  Looks like you’re getting close.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 03 December 2017, 17:22:23
@Candykeys

Would it be possible to create a signature banner for the set to help people get the word out?

We will go crazy on all advertising when we get renders and stuff out, still working on keys, posting some stuff over the week, will need your guyses confirmation :)
Did a super quick render just to try the colors out, they look great IMO:

Show Image
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371436941054574612/386453924619485194/g80-1800-icon-gmk.143.png)


yess I know the legends are off, maybe I'll fix em

Not bad! Looks pretty good, maybe a bight too light the TU2.

I'm sure it's been said before, but this set screams for Cryillic alphas being MiG-21 inspired. Also, please consider actually having the numpad keys without secondary legends - they look suuuper clean and nice.

If you're looking for more novelty key ideas maybe translate some of these:

Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/MiG-21MF_Cockpit.jpg)


Anybody speak Russian? Would be great help.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 03 December 2017, 17:25:23
night cockpit of mig-21
How about adding a night cockpit kit as a sub-kit?

I really like the idea, im pretty sure it would catch but not sure if all the MOQ of 100. I will post a IC google questions form with this included.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Mon, 04 December 2017, 05:16:27
What do you think of this idea?
I was inspired by GODSPEED and the green light of Mig-21.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 04 December 2017, 11:11:01
What do you think of this idea?
I was inspired by GODSPEED and the green light of Mig-21.

I think the "LAND" would have be much more different, White on Red or something.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: ChimairaSpawn on Mon, 04 December 2017, 23:02:06
This looks pretty tight
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Fri, 08 December 2017, 20:40:51
Requesting a 2U Shift key and R4 "Delete" key for gk64 (arrow pad 60% PCB). If this isn't possible then a 2u spacebar or blank 2U R4 key in gray could also work. If this goes live I will definitely buy a set. I bet this keyset would look great w/ a red plate.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 09 December 2017, 05:08:04
Another bit of inspiration maybe, I found this on an ebay listing: (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XlAAAOSwmwtaKoWv/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 10 December 2017, 19:50:50
Requesting a 2U Shift key and R4 "Delete" key for gk64 (arrow pad 60% PCB). If this isn't possible then a 2u spacebar or blank 2U R4 key in gray could also work. If this goes live I will definitely buy a set. I bet this keyset would look great w/ a red plate.

Got you. Seems like it could be used a lot, it will be going live :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Sun, 10 December 2017, 19:53:48
any eta when this is going live? I need this in my life already  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sun, 10 December 2017, 21:50:04
any eta when this is going live? I need this in my life already  :p

What he said!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Waven on Mon, 11 December 2017, 08:02:48
Any chance the set gets 2.25u and 2.75u space bars?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 11 December 2017, 12:54:15
I think the render as is, is missing the 1u key next to small ISO left shift. You need this to fully support putting this on an ISO keyboard (normally most non- EU centric GBs will put a duplicate backslash here)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 11 December 2017, 18:52:10
any eta when this is going live? I need this in my life already  :p

What he said!

Probably New Years :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 11 December 2017, 19:30:59
Do you guys have GMK renders yet?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 12 December 2017, 11:07:03
Do you guys have GMK renders yet?

No, we are finalising the set caps, then releasing it here. Then Christoph from GMK is already aware of the set so it will be easy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 December 2017, 16:28:50
UPDATE - NORDE KIT

So hello people! This is the month where everything will happen, hopefully, to launch in the first week of January. So, here is the NORDE kit, this kit is very important to CandyKeys since it is a EU store and we simply want ISO support in more than just UK.

The inspiration for it was taken from GMK Nautilus NORDE kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/f5Huttf.png)

Is every OK with this?

Next update - Would people prefer an American Vendor as well for the people from the other-side of the pond?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:43:27
UPDATE - NORDE KIT

So hello people! This is the month where everything will happen, hopefully, to launch in the first week of January. So, here is the NORDE kit, this kit is very important to CandyKeys since it is a EU store and we simply want ISO support in more than just UK.

The inspiration for it was taken from GMK Nautilus NORDE kit.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f5Huttf.png)


Is every OK with this?

Next update - Would people prefer an American Vendor as well for the people from the other-side of the pond?

Personally I prefer to just order directly from you Candy. There no import tax for America.. and shipping should be a bit faster directly from you. That also cuts out any issues with a middle man. I think the last group buy only had issues cause of the price. I know others said otherwise... but still think the lower price would have helped push it even with all the other amazing sets out at the time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:48:10
Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:28:31
UPDATE - NORDE KIT

So hello people! This is the month where everything will happen, hopefully, to launch in the first week of January. So, here is the NORDE kit, this kit is very important to CandyKeys since it is a EU store and we simply want ISO support in more than just UK.

The inspiration for it was taken from GMK Nautilus NORDE kit.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f5Huttf.png)


Is every OK with this?

Next update - Would people prefer an American Vendor as well for the people from the other-side of the pond?

I’m in Canada so an American vendor doesn’t make to much of a difference for me.

Also due to CETA the future would probably not apply either if shipped form candykeys.

So I prefer shipment directly from you.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:32:07
UPDATE - NORDE KIT

So hello people! This is the month where everything will happen, hopefully, to launch in the first week of January. So, here is the NORDE kit, this kit is very important to CandyKeys since it is a EU store and we simply want ISO support in more than just UK.

The inspiration for it was taken from GMK Nautilus NORDE kit.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f5Huttf.png)


Is every OK with this?

Next update - Would people prefer an American Vendor as well for the people from the other-side of the pond?

Well this STILL doesn't address my concern that the base kit does not support ISO (missing a R4 1u key to go next to the ISO Left Shift. Please consider adding the 1u key to remedy this. Although this still does not have the correct legended keys for my layout (ISO-UK), at least adding this would allow me to use the base kit on an ISO keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:36:50
UPDATE - NORDE KIT

So hello people! This is the month where everything will happen, hopefully, to launch in the first week of January. So, here is the NORDE kit, this kit is very important to CandyKeys since it is a EU store and we simply want ISO support in more than just UK.

The inspiration for it was taken from GMK Nautilus NORDE kit.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f5Huttf.png)


We have yet to correct that, the new render is coming soon, be aware you are still looking at old renders. BASE ISO will be in the set as requested.

Is every OK with this?

Next update - Would people prefer an American Vendor as well for the people from the other-side of the pond?

Well this STILL doesn't address my concern that the base kit does not support ISO (missing a R4 1u key to go next to the ISO Left Shift. Please consider adding the 1u key to remedy this. Although this still does not have the correct legended keys for my layout (ISO-UK), at least adding this would allow me to use the base kit on an ISO keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Thu, 14 December 2017, 02:51:43
The NORDE kit looks fine, but as mentioned, like Nautilus, it is missing the first key of R1:

(https://i.imgur.com/zjrMyZm.jpg)

Not that it is a key I ever use, but it would be nice to have it or something there to replace it, be it a blank or a novelty cap.

I'm getting the set either way and any Nordic support is better than the usual none.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:21:26
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)

UPDATE 19. December 2017

Changes - Added a blank R1 keycap, that can be used as the 1/2 keycap on ISO keyboards, in the NORDE KIT
             - Added a shift 2u R4 keycap as requested and added a R4 Delete Key 1U

Coming - Probably add 1 Red ESC as default
            - RED PACK Final, working on the actual novelty graphics, any ideas are welcome

Questionable - the need for all the spacebars? Can drop the cost a bit.
                    - checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
                    - Possible Night Pack?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 18 December 2017, 23:51:27
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)


UPDATE 19. December 2017

Changes - Added a blank R1 keycap, that can be used as the 1/2 keycap on ISO keyboards, in the NORDE KIT
             - Added a shift 2u R4 keycap as requested and added a R4 Delete Key 1U

Coming - Probably add 1 Red ESC as default
            - RED PACK Final, working on the actual novelty graphics, any ideas are welcome

Questionable - the need for all the spacebars? Can drop the cost a bit.
                    - checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
                    - Possible Night Pack?

Has it been finalized that "Delete" will be used in place of "Backspace"?

Also have the teal alternate arrows been moved out of the base it?  Will they be in the novelty kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 19 December 2017, 03:48:02
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)


UPDATE 19. December 2017

Changes - Added a blank R1 keycap, that can be used as the 1/2 keycap on ISO keyboards, in the NORDE KIT
             - Added a shift 2u R4 keycap as requested and added a R4 Delete Key 1U

Coming - Probably add 1 Red ESC as default
            - RED PACK Final, working on the actual novelty graphics, any ideas are welcome

Questionable - the need for all the spacebars? Can drop the cost a bit.
                    - checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
                    - Possible Night Pack?

Has it been finalized that "Delete" will be used in place of "Backspace"?

Also have the teal alternate arrows been moved out of the base it?  Will they be in the novelty kit?

I will pitch both types to Christoph, I will get pricing for both and check what the difference is, would like to have the novelty arrows ofc. Delete will be used instead of backspace. Will update it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 19 December 2017, 04:47:45
checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
This is really a  personal preference but I know I'm not alone: how about a dark base angled brackets cap for ISO Shift symmetry?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 19 December 2017, 04:48:24
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)


UPDATE 19. December 2017

Changes - Added a blank R1 keycap, that can be used as the 1/2 keycap on ISO keyboards, in the NORDE KIT
             - Added a shift 2u R4 keycap as requested and added a R4 Delete Key 1U

Coming - Probably add 1 Red ESC as default
            - RED PACK Final, working on the actual novelty graphics, any ideas are welcome

Questionable - the need for all the spacebars? Can drop the cost a bit.
                    - checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
                    - Possible Night Pack?

Ah, much better. Thanks for addressing my concerns regarding the ISO keys!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Tue, 19 December 2017, 08:21:05
It all looks great. Although, the Norde kit probably doesn't need an ISO enter, if it's already included in the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 19 December 2017, 08:32:55
checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
This is really a  personal preference but I know I'm not alone: how about a dark base angled brackets cap for ISO Shift symmetry?

Can be done, anyone else?
It all looks great. Although, the Norde kit probably doesn't need an ISO enter, if it's already included in the base set.

It will probably be taken away or switched to Red.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 19 December 2017, 10:40:35
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)


UPDATE 19. December 2017

Changes - Added a blank R1 keycap, that can be used as the 1/2 keycap on ISO keyboards, in the NORDE KIT
             - Added a shift 2u R4 keycap as requested and added a R4 Delete Key 1U

Coming - Probably add 1 Red ESC as default
            - RED PACK Final, working on the actual novelty graphics, any ideas are welcome

Questionable - the need for all the spacebars? Can drop the cost a bit.
                    - checking NORDE kit one more time to make sure if it really fits everything
                    - Possible Night Pack?

Has it been finalized that "Delete" will be used in place of "Backspace"?

Also have the teal alternate arrows been moved out of the base it?  Will they be in the novelty kit?

I will pitch both types to Christoph, I will get pricing for both and check what the difference is, would like to have the novelty arrows ofc. Delete will be used instead of backspace. Will update it.

Sorry I was just asking about the delete key because I actually prefer it to say backspace...:)

Not sure what the majority thinks.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Tue, 19 December 2017, 10:48:56
Thank you for adding a 2u Shift key!

Slightly off topic but it seems like every single keyset has a lot of angst surrounding ISO. Is there an example of a GMK keyset that has a "perfect" ISO set with only the needed keys added? (not an ISO user so somewhat ignorant on the topic).

If you are looking for a novelty idea, many Mig-21's were silver with single red star on the tail. A red star keycap might be a good idea for a ESC or other key. Also a novelty idea is a keycap with simply "MiG" or "MiG-21" in the standard font that GMK uses. Another idea for "Enter" is "Mikoyan Gurevich" on two lines. Just ideas, not necessarily requests, and they might not look that great.

A picture of the tail star can be found here:
http://www.comtourist.com/history/aviodrome/photos-aviodrome/page/2/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Tue, 19 December 2017, 11:10:46
Sorry I was just asking about the delete key because I actually prefer it to say backspace...:)

Not sure what the majority thinks.

I am not sure people will like "delete" in place of "backspace".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 19 December 2017, 12:38:18
Sorry I was just asking about the delete key because I actually prefer it to say backspace...:)

Not sure what the majority thinks.

I am not sure people will like "delete" in place of "backspace".

TBF pretty much every set and keyboard has a "backspace" and "delete" key seperately. A 1.50 Delete key makes more sense, for HHKB/etc layouts.

@OP: The most recent render has two 1.5 DELETE keys. Also def split up the spacebar kit into its own small kit like you're thinking. It'll shave like $10 off the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 19 December 2017, 12:44:15
Sorry I was just asking about the delete key because I actually prefer it to say backspace...:)

Not sure what the majority thinks.

I am not sure people will like "delete" in place of "backspace".

Sorry I might not have been clear.

I’m saying I actually prefer the “backspace” key over the delete key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Tue, 19 December 2017, 14:10:07
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 25 December 2017, 11:24:36
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.

(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)

Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 25 December 2017, 12:38:49
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)


Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

Perhaps like to see a Eject version of the Return key also and Fire key? I don't know what that will add to cost. I don't care for the jet key my self and would like alternative to simply having red return. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BrambleTheBoar on Mon, 25 December 2017, 22:45:53
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)


Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

Perhaps like to see a Eject version of the Return key also and Fire key? I don't know what that will add to cost. I don't care for the jet key my self and would like alternative to simply having red return. 

I agree, I would like to see a Fire version of the Return key.  Really looking forward to this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 25 December 2017, 23:56:38
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)


Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

Perhaps like to see a Eject version of the Return key also and Fire key? I don't know what that will add to cost. I don't care for the jet key my self and would like alternative to simply having red return.

I agree, I would like to see Fire version of the return key in red with the white underline.  I also don't really care for the jet return key.  So if we need to make a cut I vote for that.

Are we also no longer getting these keys?:

(https://i.imgur.com/GEbbeMA.png)

I personally really liked those.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Tue, 26 December 2017, 07:44:50
What happened to the coloured keys, are they considered novelties? they are essential for this set.

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)


Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

Perhaps like to see a Eject version of the Return key also and Fire key? I don't know what that will add to cost. I don't care for the jet key my self and would like alternative to simply having red return.

I agree, I would like to see Fire version of the return key in red with the white underline.  I also don't really care for the jet return key.  So if we need to make a cut I vote for that.

Are we also no longer getting these keys?:

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(https://i.imgur.com/GEbbeMA.png)


I personally really liked those.

Thats what i was thinking. The green and orange keys really create a great looking contrast
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 26 December 2017, 19:14:47
The red enters in the novelties should be available in ISO as well


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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 29 December 2017, 18:27:46
(https://imgur.com/ubsLv1s)

Update on red-pack, ISO, and alternative enter key, I would like a vote to see what would be most favorable enter variants. The plan is to keep this set extremely cheap, it would be around 95 EUR non-EU and 120 EUR EU base kit. You can understand we are trying to keep this cheap, already being neighbors to GMK is a big help as there is no shipping fees, import export fees and all that stuff.

Regarding the hazard lights, green orange and red, we will work on a design for that and see what looks best!

Thanks for the feedback! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 29 December 2017, 22:00:43
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(https://imgur.com/ubsLv1s)


Update on red-pack, ISO, and alternative enter key, I would like a vote to see what would be most favorable enter variants. The plan is to keep this set extremely cheap, it would be around 95 EUR non-EU and 120 EUR EU base kit. You can understand we are trying to keep this cheap, already being neighbors to GMK is a big help as there is no shipping fees, import export fees and all that stuff.

Regarding the hazard lights, green orange and red, we will work on a design for that and see what looks best!

Thanks for the feedback! :)

Hmm if you want to keep it cheap, I would prefer a regular red enter key and also a red enter key for the numpad as well.  If you do the hazard light's, there will  be a fire key there anyway's so no need to have it on enter as well.  Still OK with scraping the "Jet" enter key.

That's my opinion anyways.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: x86ect on Sat, 30 December 2017, 01:35:33
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)

Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

The red pack says there are R4 novelties, but they include the Esc key; should it say R1?
as per (https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 30 December 2017, 07:21:40
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/HNzYJVB.png)

Here is the red-pack, any suggestions?

The red pack says there are R4 novelties, but they include the Esc key; should it say R1?
as per
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xadhqYR.png)


Was inverted, woops. Will be fixed. Will work on it ASAP.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 02 January 2018, 22:07:50
Any thought to using the division and multiplication symbols on the numpad keys instead of "/" and "*" ?

GMK Taro is using them, for example:
 (https://i.imgur.com/tPO1xRS.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 03 January 2018, 16:21:31
New Update -

(https://imgur.com/1sPCvSj.png)

So here is the newer update, I have removed some keys and fitted the set to have the same keys as GMK Nautilus, this should slightly drop the price. Also fixed the legends on the 2D render, obviously it will be GMK fonts and the arrows will probably be custom.

Probably missed a thing or two. They will be then fixed if anything is wrong.

Updated Red-Pack to have the alarm lights as well, only problem is not really sure how to figure out the font/symbols so R1s from the top rows can be used as a red light for the hazard lights.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 January 2018, 16:37:17
get rid of the NorDE

the number of people that actually use those keys is far smaller than some users would have you believe

just look at the numbers for all the massdrop sets if you need proof

rest of it looks fine to me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 03 January 2018, 16:41:12
Is that one single kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 03 January 2018, 16:51:37
Could do the arrows featured in Burgundy R2:
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91485.0;attach=183555;image)

might save a few bucks on custom molds
Title: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 03 January 2018, 17:47:49
I think this looks great. Though I do agree with puddsy’s comment above.


Also, not a deal breaker, but are the additional teal arrows keys going to be added?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 03 January 2018, 18:44:30
get rid of the NorDE

the number of people that actually use those keys is far smaller than some users would have you believe

just look at the numbers for all the massdrop sets if you need proof

rest of it looks fine to me

So not even as a pack? That can be done, ehm, will double check the compatibility so it fits most EU Users then from Base kit.

Could do the arrows featured in Burgundy R2:
Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=91485.0;attach=183555;image)


might save a few bucks on custom molds

Those arrows are actually nice yeah! I will ask for sure.

Is that one single kit?


Sorry, BASE, NORDE and Red Pack is all seperate.



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 January 2018, 18:59:07
oh well if NORDE is separate than it's fine
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: mike873 on Wed, 03 January 2018, 20:32:47
Maybe have an option for some short spacebars, 2u, 3u? as a separate kit for sure, or even 2.25 and 2.75 but convex. It would be nice not to have to use a shift for the split setups.

Mac keys, not just windows?

Maybe a handful of blanks? I'm working on a build where `~ is actually between the shift and the Z and that space has an Esc instead. I wouldn't expect you to make an R4 ~, but a blank would be nice. Same thing for \|, I'm using an ISO enter, kind of a bastardized ANSI layout. I just find it weird that symbol keys spill over.

I love the proper * and / symbols.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 03 January 2018, 20:40:34
Maybe have an option for some short spacebars, 2u, 3u? as a separate kit for sure, or even 2.25 and 2.75 but convex. It would be nice not to have to use a shift for the split setups.

Mac keys, not just windows?

Maybe a handful of blanks? I'm working on a build where `~ is actually between the shift and the Z and that space has an Esc instead. I wouldn't expect you to make an R4 ~, but a blank would be nice. Same thing for \|, I'm using an ISO enter, kind of a bastardized ANSI layout. I just find it weird that symbol keys spill over.

I love the proper * and / symbols.

A TU2 spacebar kit would be worthwhile.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BOK on Wed, 03 January 2018, 21:42:42
New Update -

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/1sPCvSj.png)


So here is the newer update, I have removed some keys and fitted the set to have the same keys as GMK Nautilus, this should slightly drop the price. Also fixed the legends on the 2D render, obviously it will be GMK fonts and the arrows will probably be custom.

Probably missed a thing or two. They will be then fixed if anything is wrong.

Updated Red-Pack to have the alarm lights as well, only problem is not really sure how to figure out the font/symbols so R1s from the top rows can be used as a red light for the hazard lights.

What do you guys think?
How much reduced price? Do you have any expectated price?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 04 January 2018, 04:11:42
Is there ETA on launch? Cause I mean this sets been in the making for a while. While pleasing everyone would be nice.. some people with more exotic sets just have to get over not being supported. I know I recently feel in love with topre.. and I had to quickly get over that keyset's for a stock topre board. I don't think there been many if any custom sets designed for the board. Thats the risk of running with something you know isn't mainstream popular.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:19:01
Is there ETA on launch? Cause I mean this sets been in the making for a while. While pleasing everyone would be nice.. some people with more exotic sets just have to get over not being supported. I know I recently feel in love with topre.. and I had to quickly get over that keyset's for a stock topre board. I don't think there been many if any custom sets designed for the board. Thats the risk of running with something you know isn't mainstream popular.

Sending GMK today what I have so far so I can give a ballpark price to everyone and if its too high than what I would like then we will cut it down a bit.
You are right about the compatibility, in the end its not going to please everyone and now adding even more kits that wont make the MOQ would be silly. It is why its taking so long as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:26:24
Maybe have an option for some short spacebars, 2u, 3u? as a separate kit for sure, or even 2.25 and 2.75 but convex. It would be nice not to have to use a shift for the split setups.

Mac keys, not just windows?

Maybe a handful of blanks? I'm working on a build where `~ is actually between the shift and the Z and that space has an Esc instead. I wouldn't expect you to make an R4 ~, but a blank would be nice. Same thing for \|, I'm using an ISO enter, kind of a bastardized ANSI layout. I just find it weird that symbol keys spill over.

I love the proper * and / symbols.

I will consider the spacebar kit, since it would help KATANA as well and other unusual format keebs.
I think the main decision on * / symbols is to go with the "modern" symbols, sorry.

Regarding your handful of blanks, that could possible to get into a blank kit maybe? So spacebars and all that to fit other keyboards where people need?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 04 January 2018, 14:37:11


I love the proper * and / symbols.

I think the main decision on * / symbols is to go with the "modern" symbols, sorry.


I'm pretty sure he was saying it's good that they're the "right" ones  :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: mike873 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 16:00:11


I love the proper * and / symbols.

I think the main decision on * / symbols is to go with the "modern" symbols, sorry.


I'm pretty sure he was saying it's good that they're the "right" ones  :))

I was complimenting the use of the saltire for multiplication and the obelus for division.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 10 January 2018, 16:32:35
First Render and a Forum Image you can put in the footers or wherever to help us promote the set! Info was added to the Original Post on this page and pricing is coming tomorrow.
There will be a google questionnaire coming tomorrow so people can then decide what should be included, what not or what should be added. Renders are coming soon, with one render taking 3 hours it is not easy :) Do be aware that symbol sizing/symbols might not be perfect at the moment in the renders or 2d images. Working on that.

(https://imgur.com/qCn8DJZ.png)
(https://imgur.com/L3Enh3j.png)

EDIT - Forgot to add, I am not posting any final layouts just yet, reason being that I want to know the price of the current set that we have now even though it is not perfect and accordingly we will be able to create the perfect set without going overboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Woovie on Wed, 10 January 2018, 20:06:36
Looking fantastic so far :thumb: This could be my first GMK set if it gets made.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BrambleTheBoar on Wed, 10 January 2018, 20:31:14
I'm so excited for this set!!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: spkmic on Wed, 10 January 2018, 21:00:14
The orange and green keys have black legends.
It is strange that only the red key next to the two keys has a white legend.
I think there should be one red R1 key with black legend to match these.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 11 January 2018, 03:29:01
The orange and green keys have black legends.
It is strange that only the red key next to the two keys has a white legend.
I think there should be one red R1 key with black legend to match these.

Working on that, will be figuring out in the questionnaire whether white or black legends are the way to go.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 January 2018, 12:12:14
Great updates.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 11 January 2018, 19:48:20
INTEREST CHECK FORM IS HERE - https://goo.gl/forms/fXMcHF53gLrLm0f13 (https://goo.gl/forms/fXMcHF53gLrLm0f13)

So, got the pricing for GMK, as stated

BASE-KIT
124,00 EUR (EU) 104,00 EUR (Not EU) - MOQ of 120 Sets (Yes, 120)
114,00 EUR (EU) 95,00 EUR (Not EU) - 220 Sets
104,00 EUR (EU) 87,00 EUR (Not EU) - 450 Sets

NORDE-KIT
35,00 EUR (EU) 29,50 EUR (Not EU) - MOQ of 80

As the current way it is the RED PACK is just not affordable so we will have to change it up a lot.

Please fill out the questionnaire below and we will then change it all up accordingly. If you have any suggestions then add them here or e-mail us (support@candykeys.com) or PM me :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Thu, 11 January 2018, 20:07:33
Filled out form, pasting suggestions here as well for discussion


Btw, I'm not sure what you mean by "Would you like a default Red ESC button for a smaller extra base price?"

Are we getting the cap for a small price, or making the price smaller by only having 1 escape?

And the spacebar selection isn't multi-choice. I'd want 6.25u and 7u personally

I'm assuming the f & j keys in base set are scooped? Can't tell from the image
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: soupymeatballs on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:52:11
Filled out. Adding onto what Petch said  the end question (what kits would you buy) is not multi-choice. I personally would buy base and red kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 January 2018, 23:16:13
120 MOQ... damn, nice. Wonder if GMK has changed their numbers across the board?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: FSund on Fri, 12 January 2018, 03:39:21
New Update -

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/1sPCvSj.png)


So here is the newer update, I have removed some keys and fitted the set to have the same keys as GMK Nautilus, this should slightly drop the price. Also fixed the legends on the 2D render, obviously it will be GMK fonts and the arrows will probably be custom.

Probably missed a thing or two. They will be then fixed if anything is wrong.

Updated Red-Pack to have the alarm lights as well, only problem is not really sure how to figure out the font/symbols so R1s from the top rows can be used as a red light for the hazard lights.

What do you guys think?

That's a very nice looking keyset, I'm most likely in for all 3 packs!

A minor notice though: I think the sizes of some of the keys are wrong in the image. The two R4 shifts, and the R4 Ctrl and Alt keys seem to be 0.25u too large.
The shift keys should be 2.25u, and 1.75u, now they look like they are 2.5u and 2u. The Ctrl and Alt are 1.75u, but should be 1.5u.

I have highlighted the errors in the attached image.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 12 January 2018, 03:51:34
Filled out. Adding onto what Petch said  the end question (what kits would you buy) is not multi-choice. I personally would buy base and red kit.

Fixed!

120 MOQ... damn, nice. Wonder if GMK has changed their numbers across the board?

No, that is just CandyKeys working its magic :) We promised that we WILL make this happen.

New Update -

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/1sPCvSj.png)


So here is the newer update, I have removed some keys and fitted the set to have the same keys as GMK Nautilus, this should slightly drop the price. Also fixed the legends on the 2D render, obviously it will be GMK fonts and the arrows will probably be custom.

Probably missed a thing or two. They will be then fixed if anything is wrong.

Updated Red-Pack to have the alarm lights as well, only problem is not really sure how to figure out the font/symbols so R1s from the top rows can be used as a red light for the hazard lights.

What do you guys think?

That's a very nice looking keyset, I'm most likely in for all 3 packs!

A minor notice though: I think the sizes of some of the keys are wrong in the image. The two R4 shifts, and the R4 Ctrl and Alt keys seem to be 0.25u too large.
The shift keys should be 2.25u, and 1.75u, now they look like they are 2.5u and 2u. The Ctrl and Alt are 1.75u, but should be 1.5u.

I have highlighted the errors in the attached image.



Thanks a lot, working on it! Great suggestions guys.

Filled out form, pasting suggestions here as well for discussion

  • No red pack please / separate kit
  • R4 1.25u Caps Lock (so Caps Lock and Control can be swapped, GMK have this mold)
  • Change R2 1.5u backspace/delete key to just the larger backspace icon (not the boxed one, just "<---")
  • Support 1800 layout with R3 1u "+" and R2 "-"
  • Support 75% layout with R2 PgUp, R3 PgDn and R4 End keys. Currently there are 2 R3 PgUp keys and 2 R2 PgDn keys

Btw, I'm not sure what you mean by "Would you like a default Red ESC button for a smaller extra base price?"

Are we getting the cap for a small price, or making the price smaller by only having 1 escape?

And the spacebar selection isn't multi-choice. I'd want 6.25u and 7u personally

I'm assuming the f & j keys in base set are scooped? Can't tell from the image

Working on it, do you prefer scooped? As originally they were not, The Red-Pack is separate, sadly a crucial part to the set so can not delete it.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Fri, 12 January 2018, 04:24:33
Working on it, do you prefer scooped? As originally they were not, The Red-Pack is separate, sadly a crucial part to the set so can not delete it.

There should be scooped and barred homing keys, not any flat/normal ones (IMO)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 12 January 2018, 12:59:35
Personally I want to see the ISO/Euro key's made into there own set. My understanding from other group buy runners is that majority of people prefer Ansi layout. Having those key's included in the base set is like asking 99% of people to pay for the 1-6% to get there special key's. I mean understand its not the most popular opinion. Neither would asking European customers to split the cost of shipping and having a base shipping rate world wide. It also cut down on the overall cost of the set as it drop 3-4 key's if I am not mistaken perhaps more.

Before anyone gets upset get over it. When we get board's that does not have the majority of the community backing then we can assume keycaps will be harder to find. Its happen to me with both Topre boards. Its also happened with my stepped cap lock key.... Thats not to mention that if you want a special layout for something like a race 3 you most likely pay out the nose if its supported cause you have to buy 3-4 extra sets to get key compatibility. Its the price of being unique.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Sat, 13 January 2018, 13:33:05
Personally I want to see the ISO/Euro key's made into there own set. My understanding from other group buy runners is that majority of people prefer Ansi layout. Having those key's included in the base set is like asking 99% of people to pay for the 1-6% to get there special key's. I mean understand its not the most popular opinion. Neither would asking European customers to split the cost of shipping and having a base shipping rate world wide. It also cut down on the overall cost of the set as it drop 3-4 key's if I am not mistaken perhaps more.

I think you should go one step further and demand that the ISO keys be scrapped altogether. I mean, why produce them if you don't personally need them?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 15 January 2018, 03:32:23
Personally I want to see the ISO/Euro key's made into there own set. My understanding from other group buy runners is that majority of people prefer Ansi layout. Having those key's included in the base set is like asking 99% of people to pay for the 1-6% to get there special key's. I mean understand its not the most popular opinion. Neither would asking European customers to split the cost of shipping and having a base shipping rate world wide. It also cut down on the overall cost of the set as it drop 3-4 key's if I am not mistaken perhaps more.

Before anyone gets upset get over it. When we get board's that does not have the majority of the community backing then we can assume keycaps will be harder to find. Its happen to me with both Topre boards. Its also happened with my stepped cap lock key.... Thats not to mention that if you want a special layout for something like a race 3 you most likely pay out the nose if its supported cause you have to buy 3-4 extra sets to get key compatibility. Its the price of being unique.

They are in their own set, as in pack.


We do have the demand personally too, we are based in the EU :)
Personally I want to see the ISO/Euro key's made into there own set. My understanding from other group buy runners is that majority of people prefer Ansi layout. Having those key's included in the base set is like asking 99% of people to pay for the 1-6% to get there special key's. I mean understand its not the most popular opinion. Neither would asking European customers to split the cost of shipping and having a base shipping rate world wide. It also cut down on the overall cost of the set as it drop 3-4 key's if I am not mistaken perhaps more.

I think you should go one step further and demand that the ISO keys be scrapped altogether. I mean, why produce them if you don't personally need them?

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 15 January 2018, 12:48:55
Personally I want to see the ISO/Euro key's made into there own set. My understanding from other group buy runners is that majority of people prefer Ansi layout. Having those key's included in the base set is like asking 99% of people to pay for the 1-6% to get there special key's. I mean understand its not the most popular opinion. Neither would asking European customers to split the cost of shipping and having a base shipping rate world wide. It also cut down on the overall cost of the set as it drop 3-4 key's if I am not mistaken perhaps more.

I think you should go one step further and demand that the ISO keys be scrapped altogether. I mean, why produce them if you don't personally need them?

Its not about me personally but about the majority! What I have gathered. The Majority doesn't use ISO/Eu keys.. in fact it seems to be a hot button subject that regardless of what designers do. They get flack for it. By removing them completely. Designers could get rid of one of the headaches they deal with.. while upsetting what 1-2% of the community.. who will become less then .5% of the community once they figure out.. there no longer going to be supported. It was just me that didn't want ISO key's then by no means would I have voiced my opinion. Its like me wanting Topre key's to be made.. I don't say anything cause honestly the demand would be to low for the overall cost of them.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schoolbus on Mon, 15 January 2018, 13:04:49
All the data has shown that when push comes to shove and people have to actually buy sets regardless of website offering that ISO users are without a doubt a super small loud minority.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:50:16
All the data has shown that when push comes to shove and people have to actually buy sets regardless of website offering that ISO users are without a doubt a super small loud minority.

I think we will push a small ISO kit IC on the website post coming soon to gauge interest not just from geekhack but our website reach.

The changes that will be made is:

Cut down on Novelties
Extra SpaceBar Kit will be added (with split spaces)

The launch will be 26/1/2018 unless there are any communication delays between GMK and us. Full renders by the end of the week for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 24 January 2018, 13:46:26
Are we still looking at a 1/26 launch?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Gamatatsu on Fri, 26 January 2018, 15:36:00
Is the group buy still happening today?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: sacklunch on Sun, 28 January 2018, 13:10:43
Apparently it's not happening this weekend?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 28 January 2018, 14:03:31
Hopefully this does go on sale soon, I really like this kit. Also i think it would make some killer combos with GMK Sky/Ocean Dolch! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Sun, 28 January 2018, 14:14:45
How do i get this cool looking fishbed banner?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 29 January 2018, 11:53:53
How long would the GB run? I'm going to be low on funds for the next two weeks because my bank account needs to recover a bit but would love to join.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 29 January 2018, 13:44:52
How do i get this cool looking fishbed banner?
Go to your forum profile (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;area=forumprofile) and paste this code in the signature section.

Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91190.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/qCn8DJZ.png[/img][/url]
How long would the GB run?
Usually, GBs are open for either two or four weeks, but it's really CandyKeys' decision.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Mon, 29 January 2018, 14:25:34
Oh cool, thanks. Where do i get these codes usually from?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 29 January 2018, 14:41:14
Oh cool, thanks. Where do i get these codes usually from?
It's called BBCode, you can find plenty of info on Google.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:00:01
Is the group buy still happening today?

UPDATE - Due to GMK Blue on Black Success and Kester Solder that we had to clear up, we had delays.
Coming this week.

How long would the GB run? I'm going to be low on funds for the next two weeks because my bank account needs to recover a bit but would love to join.

3 - 4 weeks!

Are we still looking at a 1/26 launch?


Delayed for reasons above.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:04:49
UPDATE - 30/01/18
We are aware of the late launch, reason being that the Successful KESTER Solder and GMK Blue on Black GBS had to be organised, ordered and shipped. Now we are in the clear and it is a go ahead, a few things changing on the set because of the questionnaire, which was really helpful are:

- Spacebar Kit will be a new kit, a seperate one
- Many people agreed to having the RED ESC being standard so there are no extra mold fees for it, but will probably still be included regardless
- Chinese Airforce Novelty will disappear
- Cross-hair key will be replced
- Suggestions to take out black and white Eject keys

If anyone has any comments, this is the last opportunity to do so! We have gotten feeedback through Insta, FB and everything and it is being followed. Sorry for being so busy!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 29 January 2018, 20:41:47
UPDATE - 30/01/18
We are aware of the late launch, reason being that the Successful KESTER Solder and GMK Blue on Black GBS had to be organised, ordered and shipped. Now we are in the clear and it is a go ahead, a few things changing on the set because of the questionnaire, which was really helpful are:

- Spacebar Kit will be a new kit, a seperate one
- Many people agreed to having the RED ESC being standard so there are no extra mold fees for it, but will probably still be included regardless
- Chinese Airforce Novelty will disappear
- Cross-hair key will be replced
- Suggestions to take out black and white Eject keys

If anyone has any comments, this is the last opportunity to do so! We have gotten feeedback through Insta, FB and everything and it is being followed. Sorry for being so busy!

What sizes would the space bar kit contain if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Mon, 29 January 2018, 21:43:45
UPDATE - 30/01/18
We are aware of the late launch, reason being that the Successful KESTER Solder and GMK Blue on Black GBS had to be organised, ordered and shipped. Now we are in the clear and it is a go ahead, a few things changing on the set because of the questionnaire, which was really helpful are:

- Spacebar Kit will be a new kit, a seperate one
- Many people agreed to having the RED ESC being standard so there are no extra mold fees for it, but will probably still be included regardless
- Chinese Airforce Novelty will disappear
- Cross-hair key will be replced
- Suggestions to take out black and white Eject keys

If anyone has any comments, this is the last opportunity to do so! We have gotten feeedback through Insta, FB and everything and it is being followed. Sorry for being so busy!

Please see if you can include the optional arrow keys in the same colour as the alpha keys.

Either in the base set or add on kits.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: kiettv12 on Tue, 30 January 2018, 11:09:43
will buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: schmoktopus on Tue, 30 January 2018, 12:46:45
Will you still be offering the orange, yellow and green keys? And by "Red esc key", do you mean that the "Fire" Novelty key got discarded?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 30 January 2018, 17:40:09
Will you still be offering the orange, yellow and green keys? And by "Red esc key", do you mean that the "Fire" Novelty key got discarded?

Yes for the extra keys, we just really want them no matter what the price because we believe it adds a lot to the idea of being inside of a cockpit and lets be honest, not many sets have such cool keys :)
With the RED ESC KEY, sorry for not keeping that clear, the normal red key will be included but one mold will be dropped, FIRE will most likely stay.

will buy

Awesome!

UPDATE - 30/01/18
We are aware of the late launch, reason being that the Successful KESTER Solder and GMK Blue on Black GBS had to be organised, ordered and shipped. Now we are in the clear and it is a go ahead, a few things changing on the set because of the questionnaire, which was really helpful are:

- Spacebar Kit will be a new kit, a seperate one
- Many people agreed to having the RED ESC being standard so there are no extra mold fees for it, but will probably still be included regardless
- Chinese Airforce Novelty will disappear
- Cross-hair key will be replced
- Suggestions to take out black and white Eject keys

If anyone has any comments, this is the last opportunity to do so! We have gotten feeedback through Insta, FB and everything and it is being followed. Sorry for being so busy!

Please see if you can include the optional arrow keys in the same colour as the alpha keys.

Either in the base set or add on kits.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Very slim chance of this happening, will explore.

UPDATE - 30/01/18
We are aware of the late launch, reason being that the Successful KESTER Solder and GMK Blue on Black GBS had to be organised, ordered and shipped. Now we are in the clear and it is a go ahead, a few things changing on the set because of the questionnaire, which was really helpful are:

- Spacebar Kit will be a new kit, a seperate one
- Many people agreed to having the RED ESC being standard so there are no extra mold fees for it, but will probably still be included regardless
- Chinese Airforce Novelty will disappear
- Cross-hair key will be replced
- Suggestions to take out black and white Eject keys

If anyone has any comments, this is the last opportunity to do so! We have gotten feeedback through Insta, FB and everything and it is being followed. Sorry for being so busy!

What sizes would the space bar kit contain if you don't mind me asking?


Determining that, will release all at once.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Wed, 31 January 2018, 02:38:05
I guess it's too late in the process, but I wouldn't mind some cyrillic in the novelties. A Russian 'eject' or something.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 31 January 2018, 08:53:01
I guess it's too late in the process, but I wouldn't mind some cyrillic in the novelties. A Russian 'eject' or something.

Would love to but sadly drive the prices up a lot the more we add, I do like idea maybe in V2 where we also have a night cockpit version.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Wed, 31 January 2018, 20:26:16
I guess it's too late in the process, but I wouldn't mind some cyrillic in the novelties. A Russian 'eject' or something.

Would love to but sadly drive the prices up a lot the more we add, I do like idea maybe in V2 where we also have a night cockpit version.
You could always run a separate drop for the alphas sometime down the line I think. I've never ran a groupbuy so I don't really know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 02 February 2018, 19:35:10
I guess it's too late in the process, but I wouldn't mind some cyrillic in the novelties. A Russian 'eject' or something.

Would love to but sadly drive the prices up a lot the more we add, I do like idea maybe in V2 where we also have a night cockpit version.
You could always run a separate drop for the alphas sometime down the line I think. I've never ran a groupbuy so I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Let us see what this set will bring us!
Renders done soon, only if one render did not take 1 day that would be nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: sheepish.alpaca on Fri, 02 February 2018, 23:07:32
Just joined to ask a couple questions:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 04 February 2018, 17:14:55
Just joined to ask a couple questions:

  • Are the red keys universally P3? I was looking to maybe pair it with Yuri, which uses RO2.
  • What's the status of the red kit? I saw your post last month saying it probably wasn't going to happen, but has that changed?

Red kit is happening, just has to be cut down due to the close to insane cost of nearly 70 EUR or something like that. Update coming this week with final pricing and all that :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Mon, 05 February 2018, 07:52:14
Appreciate trying to keep the cost low.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 February 2018, 17:47:29
Appreciate trying to keep the cost low.

Will be the biggest strength of this set for sure!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 12 February 2018, 21:45:00
whats going on with this set?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BrambleTheBoar on Thu, 15 February 2018, 22:37:10
Are there any new updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 16 February 2018, 05:04:37
whats going on with this set?

Are there any new updates?

Pricing is in, just finished and finalised it after talking with Oblotzky today. Since there were some errors: Info out tonight.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Wetherbee on Sat, 17 February 2018, 05:34:53
Hope the new spacebar kit includes 6u center-stem.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BobCarltheThird on Mon, 19 February 2018, 11:12:57
whats going on with this set?

Are there any new updates?

Pricing is in, just finished and finalised it after talking with Oblotzky today. Since there were some errors: Info out tonight.

Any news on the news? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 21 February 2018, 17:46:32
whats going on with this set?

Are there any new updates?

Pricing is in, just finished and finalised it after talking with Oblotzky today. Since there were some errors: Info out tonight.

Any news on the news? ;D


Launching this week, waiting on renders from Oblotzky!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 21 February 2018, 20:04:01
whats the pricing look like?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 28 February 2018, 14:39:53
Set is launching on Friday! Pricing is going to be updated on the website, GMK Sent us the wrong renders but we have the final renders from Oblotzky and we have all material ready and completed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:53:08
Yasss can't wait to see the renders.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:17:06
RENDERS by Oblotzky - Awesome stuff, thanks man!

(https://i.imgur.com/tTQHyJU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/W4mXYvU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2y9Tjik.png)

The final 2d renders, this is updated, removed and added a few things after many suggestions:

(https://imgur.com/9Qi9aLq.png)

The GMK Renders are coming, they sent wrong ones so we are waiting on the repaired ones. The pricing is as follows (can still be changed a slight bit) :

BASE KIT
at 120 = 103,30 EUR not including tax. / 123,00 EUR including tax
at 250 = 95,00 EUR / 113,00 EUR
at 500 = 88,00 EUR / 105,00 EUR

NORDE KIT
at 100 = 33,60 EUR not including tax. / 40,00 EUR including tax
at 150 = 29,50 EUR / 35,00 EUR
at 250 = 25,20 EUR / 30,00 EUR

RED PACK
at 100 = 39,49 EUR not including tax. / 47,00 EUR including tax
at 150 = 35,30 EUR / 42,00 EUR
at 250 = 31,93 EUR / 38,00 EUR

The set is really great, happy with the way it turned out after all these months of waiting, the dark Soviet theme is felt and I can not complain, we might have a small vote on the Ins key which has a white legend due to contrast but that will probably change to black.
The pricing is INCLUDING PAYPAL FEES and CREDIT CARD FEES. The GB will be available tomorrow on our website www.candykeys.com, no proxies but you do not pay EU taxes and it is still a very very very good deal in our minds. This should come off as one of a cheaper GMK sets out there. Thanks a lot all!



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:33:26
Which arrows did you end up going with?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: noSatellite on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:35:43
I am so looking forward to this - looks amazing.   :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:12:36
Which arrows did you end up going with?

Arrows are going to be the modern styled delta arrows :) Fits the cockpit more.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:13:33
I am so looking forward to this - looks amazing.   :D

Much love. The response was great with 100 yes's, we kept the price down, (sadly had to add 3 EUR due to PayPal fees and all) but we are excited as much as you are!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:15:17
Great prices, even at the lowest MOQ. GLWB :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:20:52
Great prices, even at the lowest MOQ. GLWB :p

yeah, no kidding
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:48:15
Great prices, even at the lowest MOQ. GLWB :p

To people who decide to pay using bank wire get 3% off.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:49:48
I must say, I'll probably get one, but I'm disappointed in the novelties. Nothing to tie it to MiG-21 or Soviet fighters in general, just a generic hammer and sickle esc. Meh.

But he basic colors are nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:59:41
I must say, I'll probably get one, but I'm disappointed in the novelties. Nothing to tie it to MiG-21 or Soviet fighters in general, just a generic hammer and sickle esc. Meh.

But he basic colors are nice.

Sadly, we tried but the amount of molds would have made the red set around 80 EUR, it was already over-board in the beginning, and people did not vote for keeping MIG related novelties in. The Red Pack uses a mix of new molds and old ones and hits the perfect spot. Most people find the warning lights and the eject button perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 01 March 2018, 20:12:15
I be honest I am a bit dis-pointed to see the ISO key's being included in the main pack but not a eject key at all. I mean honestly I never use the ISO kit's and I would even bank that 90% of people will never use the iso kits.. just added cost on to the set to please 5-10% of the buyers with a kit that never meet MOQ by its self.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 March 2018, 20:13:55
I be honest I am a bit dis-pointed to see the ISO key's being included in the main pack but not a eject key at all. I mean honestly I never use the ISO kit's and I would even bank that 90% of people will never use the iso kits.. just added cost on to the set to please 5-10% of the buyers with a kit that never meet MOQ by its self.

agree

i think ISO keys should all go into the NORDE kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Gamatatsu on Thu, 01 March 2018, 21:57:46
I be honest I am a bit dis-pointed to see the ISO key's being included in the main pack but not a eject key at all. I mean honestly I never use the ISO kit's and I would even bank that 90% of people will never use the iso kits.. just added cost on to the set to please 5-10% of the buyers with a kit that never meet MOQ by its self.

agree

i think ISO keys should all go into the NORDE kit
yes to this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: consolation on Fri, 02 March 2018, 02:10:46
Isn't ISO standard for practically the whole of Europe? It would be an odd Mig kit without an ISO. (PS. I played in Photoshop and swapped the fonts of Alphas and legends to red - it looked amazing imho. )
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 02 March 2018, 02:25:50
Isn't ISO standard for practically the whole of Europe? It would be an odd Mig kit without an ISO. (PS. I played in Photoshop and swapped the fonts of Alphas and legends to red - it looked amazing imho. )

Not 100% sure but its been proven time and time again thought multiple buys that norde/iso make up the least amount of sales typically..


Perhaps if this is left in shipping could be reduced for international buyers? Perhaps 8 dollar flat rate for everyone?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Trousers on Fri, 02 March 2018, 03:33:17
I be honest I am a bit dis-pointed to see the ISO key's being included in the main pack but not a eject key at all. I mean honestly I never use the ISO kit's and I would even bank that 90% of people will never use the iso kits.. just added cost on to the set to please 5-10% of the buyers with a kit that never meet MOQ by its self.

agree

i think ISO keys should all go into the NORDE kit

Yeah, and there should be a separate ANSI pack so ISO users don't have to pay for the strange enter keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Fri, 02 March 2018, 08:01:57
Why does the 1u numpad 0 have the sub-legend when the rest of the numpad don't? Personally, I prefer the numpad having the nav sub-legends

I would also suggest the 1.75u R3 control key having "Control" as the legend like most GMK sets, not just Ctrl. It's far too big of a key for Ctrl. On a similar note, the R2 1.5u backspace might benefit from being "Delete" as it fits a lot better
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: noSatellite on Fri, 02 March 2018, 08:33:10
Is there any way to have the OS keycap legends be something generic, like "Super" or "Meta", rather than "Win". I know it might come across as petty, but I run macOS and Linux, and it never really sits well with me to have keysets with "Win" as the OS key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: elfick on Fri, 02 March 2018, 10:50:00
Is there any way to have the OS keycap legends be something generic, like "Super" or "Meta", rather than "Win". I know it might come across as petty, but I run macOS and Linux, and it never really sits well with me to have keysets with "Win" as the OS key.
I second this request. Perhaps even "Code", which may even fit the aeronautics theme better than "Win". 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: noSatellite on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:29:23
I second this request. Perhaps even "Code", which may even fit the aeronautics theme better than "Win".

That is an excellent point - I vote for "Code".
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 02 March 2018, 17:08:56
Thanks all for the great feedback on the set that we have:

We see that many people have issues with two things - ISO in the Base Kit and the Code/Ctrl Mods

- Regarding the ISO Kit, we are an EU store and we honestly think that the amount of ISO buyers will be higher, meaning the probability of reaching a higher MOQ is much larger for everyone. Most sets come with ISO keys already and taking them away is nearly no cost saving. Regarding the Red ESC Key as standard, this could still be implemented but it will also cause many people not to bother with the red-kit and we think the red kit is essential on this set
 
- Code and Ctrl will now be fixed, we wanted to go with Ctrl as it is the old way and Code is something newer. I feel like that Code is more modern and changes the taste of the set.

The launch will happen today (3rd of March) as these changes have to be reflected in our 2D layout.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 02 March 2018, 18:31:28
Thanks all for the great feedback on the set that we have:

We see that many people have issues with two things - ISO in the Base Kit and the Code/Ctrl Mods

- Regarding the ISO Kit, we are an EU store and we honestly think that the amount of ISO buyers will be higher, meaning the probability of reaching a higher MOQ is much larger for everyone. Most sets come with ISO keys already and taking them away is nearly no cost saving. Regarding the Red ESC Key as standard, this could still be implemented but it will also cause many people not to bother with the red-kit and we think the red kit is essential on this set
 
- Code and Ctrl will now be fixed, we wanted to go with Ctrl as it is the old way and Code is something newer. I feel like that Code is more modern and changes the taste of the set.

The launch will happen today (3rd of March) as these changes have to be reflected in our 2D layout.

Thats really sad to hear about the ISO kit.. I be passing.. I followed this set since the start have been extremely excited about it but I not going to pay for something that the majority of users won't use regardless of were the sets being sold. I think the EU store is kinda flimsy excuses for.. we don't want to remove it because we know it won't hit MOQ on its own.

The current state of the Euro vs the Dollar + the fact shipping is going to cost good chunk ((Assuming 15 dollar DHL Shipping)).. I would estimate around 141 dollars to US buyers just for the base kit. Buyer wanted the entire kit your looking at closer to 190.90 (15 dollar DHL Shipping estimate)).  That doesn't even speak for buyers in Canada who will most likely be paying far more. The cost of the base kit is of great concern special when other key's that where desirable where not included. I hope this helps you understand least my point of view. I don't see the European's helping with America's shipping cost nor would I ask them to.

I sadly think this will suffer the same fate as the group buy in October GMK Eclipse which sadly was far to pricey in my opinion was running at a time where there where a lot of other outstanding group buy's running at the same time. I hope wrong wish you the best. I am extremely dis pointed in the outcome of this as been waiting since September. I figured being upfront and blunt about my feelings special as a prospective customer is better then beating around the bush. I guess time will tell thought what the ultimate outcome of this project will be.

 Removing the ISO parts from the kit dropped the price by even 10-15 dollars this would be enough to least offset the cost of our shipping.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 03 March 2018, 10:37:24
Thanks all for the great feedback on the set that we have:

We see that many people have issues with two things - ISO in the Base Kit and the Code/Ctrl Mods

- Regarding the ISO Kit, we are an EU store and we honestly think that the amount of ISO buyers will be higher, meaning the probability of reaching a higher MOQ is much larger for everyone. Most sets come with ISO keys already and taking them away is nearly no cost saving. Regarding the Red ESC Key as standard, this could still be implemented but it will also cause many people not to bother with the red-kit and we think the red kit is essential on this set
 
- Code and Ctrl will now be fixed, we wanted to go with Ctrl as it is the old way and Code is something newer. I feel like that Code is more modern and changes the taste of the set.

The launch will happen today (3rd of March) as these changes have to be reflected in our 2D layout.

Thats really sad to hear about the ISO kit.. I be passing.. I followed this set since the start have been extremely excited about it but I not going to pay for something that the majority of users won't use regardless of were the sets being sold. I think the EU store is kinda flimsy excuses for.. we don't want to remove it because we know it won't hit MOQ on its own.

The current state of the Euro vs the Dollar + the fact shipping is going to cost good chunk ((Assuming 15 dollar DHL Shipping)).. I would estimate around 141 dollars to US buyers just for the base kit. Buyer wanted the entire kit your looking at closer to 190.90 (15 dollar DHL Shipping estimate)).  That doesn't even speak for buyers in Canada who will most likely be paying far more. The cost of the base kit is of great concern special when other key's that where desirable where not included. I hope this helps you understand least my point of view. I don't see the European's helping with America's shipping cost nor would I ask them to.

I sadly think this will suffer the same fate as the group buy in October GMK Eclipse which sadly was far to pricey in my opinion was running at a time where there where a lot of other outstanding group buy's running at the same time. I hope wrong wish you the best. I am extremely dis pointed in the outcome of this as been waiting since September. I figured being upfront and blunt about my feelings special as a prospective customer is better then beating around the bush. I guess time will tell thought what the ultimate outcome of this project will be.

 Removing the ISO parts from the kit dropped the price by even 10-15 dollars this would be enough to least offset the cost of our shipping.

Assuming that is an opinion many users will share, we will ask GMK what the price is without the ISO keys, if the price changes by a small amount then we will keep the set so as it then makes no sense. We also have the opportunity to Proxy in the US which is not a problem as we have the contact to do it there. There are two ways to do this. We are worried that proxying to the US will cause a disagreement in pricing as we have gone to the minimum.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: avid on Sat, 03 March 2018, 10:42:38
Dont drop ISO keys needed (r4, r3, iso enter, small shift).

I find it to be absurd to drop the ISO part but include fringe keys needed for 40% boards. I'm also not sure why we need doubles of 2,3,4 and the key next to "1". If you want to continue dropping keys drop the 6u spacebar.

Who is all the people complaining about dropping ISO? I see hotroderx making 10 posts about it, so it might seem like many while in fact there is only a lone user screaming at the moon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Sat, 03 March 2018, 11:18:05
I second this point. You can't please everybody and one user doesn't make up for the population.

Just launch this, Ive been waiting for it!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 03 March 2018, 11:31:19
I second this point. You can't please everybody and one user doesn't make up for the population.

Just launch this, Ive been waiting for it!!!

Will prep. the pages tonight, and decide after a few more responses!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: WHeisenberg on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:23:35
Dont drop ISO keys needed (r4, r3, iso enter, small shift).

I find it to be absurd to drop the ISO part but include fringe keys needed for 40% boards. I'm also not sure why we need doubles of 2,3,4 and the key next to "1". If you want to continue dropping keys drop the 6u spacebar.

Who is all the people complaining about dropping ISO? I see hotroderx making 10 posts about it, so it might seem like many while in fact there is only a lone user screaming at the moon.

For what it's worth - I wholeheartedly agree!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: RealLaugh on Sat, 03 March 2018, 12:46:47
Looking forward to the release of this since the end of last year, and I don't think I can get it without the Red Kit too!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Fooblitzky on Sat, 03 March 2018, 16:58:43
Is the red "RETURN" going to be centered as shown and the grey "RETURN" left justified?

If you are making a custom legend, the jet logo looks snazzier than the "FIRE" button and gives the set more character. I don't know the cost differences though.

I know it's about cost savings, but "Ins, Home, PgUp" Red/Yellow/Green keys look awkward to me and you could only use them logically on a few types of boards. I like the use of the colors. Maybe more standard "ESC" colors?

Dark grey and red "EJECT" looks better integrated to the set than white and red "EJECT" to me.

1.25u "Code" keys maybe for non-"Win" folks?

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 03 March 2018, 17:58:41
Thanks for the support guys! We will launch it tomorrow morning or mid-day then because in the end it makes sense to satisfy the majority and in our region.

Is the red "RETURN" going to be centered as shown and the grey "RETURN" left justified?

If you are making a custom legend, the jet logo looks snazzier than the "FIRE" button and gives the set more character. I don't know the cost differences though.

I know it's about cost savings, but "Ins, Home, PgUp" Red/Yellow/Green keys look awkward to me and you could only use them logically on a few types of boards. I like the use of the colors. Maybe more standard "ESC" colors?

Dark grey and red "EJECT" looks better integrated to the set than white and red "EJECT" to me.

1.25u "Code" keys maybe for non-"Win" folks?

Just my 2 cents.

Will ask GMK, regarding the Red Yellow Green, there was the argument to keep them in. People wanted that they would be custom but it would drive the costs even higher. We need to patch up Ctrl, Code, Control differences.

(https://imgur.com/choZMjy.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: BrambleTheBoar on Sat, 03 March 2018, 18:24:42
I can't wait for this set.  So excited!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:30:51
'Control' on one 1.5u key but not on the other or the R3 1.75u?

Still has a sub-legend on the numpad 1u 0 and not on the rest of the numpad.

(https://i.imgur.com/zicTmf7.jpg)

Also no R4 End key to finish off the 75% support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Sat, 03 March 2018, 21:22:18
'Control' on one 1.5u key but not on the other or the R3 1.75u?

Still has a sub-legend on the numpad 1u 0 and not on the rest of the numpad.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zicTmf7.jpg)


Also no R4 End key to finish off the 75% support

All has been noted by GMK and will be changed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 March 2018, 21:32:56
How come there are 1.25u Win Logo keys but 1u Code keys? :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 05 March 2018, 17:36:52
How come there are 1.25u Win Logo keys but 1u Code keys? :confused:

Where do you see win logos? :O Maybe old files, 1u code keys are there to replace not just ctrl keys but code keys are universal. We are still figuring this out over-time, but the GB is now live on our website! Will post info tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: RealLaugh on Tue, 06 March 2018, 01:16:09
are the split space bars really included in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: iliketimex on Tue, 06 March 2018, 01:38:50
We also have the opportunity to Proxy in the US which is not a problem as we have the contact to do it there. There are two ways to do this. We are worried that proxying to the US will cause a disagreement in pricing as we have gone to the minimum.

Is there going to be a US proxy? I recently got in on the GMK 60's Happy Life GB when I noticed the US proxy was donut cables.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: FSund on Tue, 06 March 2018, 02:20:12
Is the space bar kit not available, or is it included in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: stxfreak on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:04:52
Hey there, apparently there is no option to get the spacebar kit, will this be included in the base kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:33:43
Our bad,

Fixing it now.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: RealLaugh on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:35:00
edit: I'll email you about adding the space bar kit to my order...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 03:45:47
Everything is now fixed, for people that purchased already (the red pack) you will get a small refund because the actual price has dropped by a lot, there was an error on our behalf of calculations. Otherwise, happy purchasing! Any questions, send it to support@candykeys.com and one of the team members will answer.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: FSund on Tue, 06 March 2018, 04:52:08
I think there's a slight error with the Nordic kit, you have two Ä's, but no Å. I think the R2 Ä should be a Å, for Norwegians and Danes.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 06 March 2018, 05:01:36
Are you gentlemen sure about the hammer and sickle being white on red? It should really be yellow on red.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:02:50
I think there's a slight error with the Nordic kit, you have two Ä's, but no Å. I think the R2 Ä should be a Å, for Norwegians and Danes.

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Correct, we are posting a revised edition of the NORDE kit soon.


Are you gentlemen sure about the hammer and sickle being white on red? It should really be yellow on red.
We are sure, the reason being that adding yellow will add more contrast to the set and to keep the low-level cockpit feeling we do not want to add a yellow symbol because then we are adding one more color in another portion of the keyboard.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 06 March 2018, 06:54:59

Are you gentlemen sure about the hammer and sickle being white on red? It should really be yellow on red.
We are sure, the reason being that adding yellow will add more contrast to the set and to keep the low-level cockpit feeling we do not want to add a yellow symbol because then we are adding one more color in another portion of the keyboard.
Very well, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Petch on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:25:56
Just remove the commie key tbh
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:27:26
Just remove the commie key tbh

The majority of the people wanted it in and since the Mold is already there from GMK Yuri then the price difference is nearly close to nothing.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Tue, 06 March 2018, 14:46:47
I'm in! Lets hit MOQ and get this moving :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:37:29
I'm in! Lets hit MOQ and get this moving :)

Good stuff! Time to somehow get this moved to the GB forum
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 March 2018, 15:43:45
I'm in! Lets hit MOQ and get this moving :)

Good stuff! Time to somehow get this moved to the GB forum

just post a new topic and/or PM a mod
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: emenelopee on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:32:46
What are the spacebar sizes? Are any 3u?

Digging the set, v tempted.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:45:15
What are the spacebar sizes? Are any 3u?

Digging the set, v tempted.

GMK cant't do 3u
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Fishbed
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:55:29
As the group buy is now open, the interest check phase is over, and this thread is being locked.  Please create a dedicated discussion thread for the group buy if you wish to discuss the GB progress.