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Offline Friendship

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[IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT NumPad - GB from NOV 19-22!
« on: Mon, 27 June 2022, 21:42:09 »

[ The NUM1 ]

A gummy o-ring mounted number pad with a Daughterboard, Bluetooth, alternative top mount, and Alps compatibility.

GB THREAD HERE: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118848.0

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V2 and V2.5 prototype photos:



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[ The Group Buy information ]

Vendor: The fantastic https://thockeys.com !!!
Price: $250 for the kit (batteries not included)
Sale format: Raffle
Unit count: 21 units
Timeline: GROUPBUY RAFFLE OPEN NOVEMBER 19-22

Extras:
$12 - MX PP Plate - Cut by the wonderful Jake at the https://p3dstore.com
$18 - MX Alu plate - "jack" anodization color
$18 - Alps Alu Plate - "jack" anodization color
$30 - PCB
$6 - O-ring 50A
$55 - Case top (one of the 3 colors to choose from)

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[ The Kit ]

- NUM1 case top (color info below)
- NUM1 case bottom Silver Anodization
- Sandblasted brass weight
- Mx 5052 Aluminum Plate ("Jack" anodization color)
- 1.6mm PCB (designed by TrifeLife)
- Daughter board (Unified C3 design)
- 1x JST cable
- 1x 50a O-ring
- Hardware
- 3M bumpons



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[ The Colors ]

"Ron"


more views and Manu color chip:
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"Gump"


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"Jack"


more views and Manu color chip:
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[ The Specs ]

Angle: 6.5 degrees
MX plate material: semi-transparent polypropylene OR anodized almost black 5052 aluminum
Alps Plate material: Anodized almost black 5052 aluminum
Firmware: ZMK
Battery life: ZMK estimates 2-4 weeks
Built weight: ~1.3 Lbs



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[ The Sound tests ]

Proto 2 sound tests:

Cherry on Alu
https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentSaltyKangarooPRChase-hpdV_1uDCvYN2_Fa

Cherry on PP
https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousAbnegateWerewolfDxAbomb-Rr_5XkRev7v9-Uz-

Old sound tests:

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[ The Layout ]



Applicable for both MX and Alps switches. Sorry no southpaw. Blue highlighted inner zones are the O-ring pedestals, outer zones are the top mount points

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[ The Updates ]

7/24/22
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- Prototype V2 and PCB V2 set to ship Monday 7/25
- V2.5 prototype ordered from another Manu to test their capabilities as a potential production runner (eta 1 month for that). The V2.5 has a larger battery bay, up to 150mAh from 70mAh (battery life pending testing)
- Sale set to a Raffle format
- $275 price has been removed, current target is $225 but is not final.

11/4/22
- We have a Vendor!!! huge shoutout to Aiwanei at Thockeys for taking this little passion project on and making it a reality!
- Updated kit (removed battery, removed black hardware torx variant (silver still available)
- Finalized color options (see above)
- Finalized weight material and finish (sandblasted brass)
- 250$ finalized kit price (why the increase? long story short, the V1 and V2 proto manu become untrustworthy, the V2.5 proto manu had more errors than i could count, so i had to choose a Manu that was experienced/well recommended and sadly a little pricier)

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[ The Discord ]

https://discord.gg/NW8txQcnA8

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[ The Special thanks ]

TrifeLife
Maly
Yataomi
Choobies
The MLI homies
This lil guy: https://i.imgur.com/5znfuGO.jpg

Thank you all for being my friends :)

Sincerely yours, your friend,
- Friendship



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[ The Inspiration ]

This was born from being disappointed in the lack of premium numpad options available at the time of initial design as well as age old instigating questions like "what if we slapped an o-ring into it?" and "what if we slapped bluetooth into it".

More ramblings of context:
I was also influenced by one of my favorite kustoms the GHv2 by LZ.

The engraving and name was born from some cheeky wordplay of songs by one of my favorite artists Machinedrum. I binged his music throughout this design process and felt inclined to immortalize it within the design. His use of numbers in his song names also integrated well into the theme of the numpad.

NUM1: a play on 'Come1' off the album “Room(s)”
Only 1 Way 2 Numpad: a play on 'Only 1 Way 2 Know' off the album “Vapor City Archives”

I was made aware only somewhat recently that a fellow member of this community HineyBush designed the TKL ONE and the NUM ONE (I knew the TKL ONE but didnt know it had a numpad!). Given the name is nearly identical, I reached out to Hiney for permission to continue use of the NUM1 name for this project, He approved! :D Thanks Mr. Hiney!

[ The V1 to V2.5 Changes ]

A more comprehensive history of the design and changes can be found in my discord below but here are the main points

- Increased total height of the pad 1.4mm to increase case bottom thickness for acoustic improvements to front row switches
- Xonledge added for same reason as above
- USB C cutout squared to accept lindy connectors
- Oring sidewall relief cut depth increased to isolate impact force to just the oring pedistals
- Removed long bumpons in favor of 3m dome bumpons for better acoustic isolation
- Added battery bay and Bluetooth functionality supporting 150Mah LiPo batteries
- Increased the fillet from 1.25 to 1.5 on edges for softer feel when moving around your desk



Full album Link: https://imgur.com/a/MFKxSja

V1 prototype photos:



[ The Packaging ]

not enough interest for bionicle tube  :'(



« Last Edit: Mon, 14 November 2022, 10:14:56 by Friendship »
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

Offline ankit

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 27 June 2022, 21:45:50 »

[ The Packaging ]

For low unit self run, I will likely stick with a foam lined corrugated box. However, if a vendor picks this up and the unit count can be upped, there is a possibility we could explore this wild Bionicle inspired design

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Holy **** this packaging is lit af. Cool project GLWIC.
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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 27 June 2022, 21:47:12 »
This is pretty cool but for 275 it isn't.
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Offline Rafa_n

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 05:23:49 »
275 haha that's hilarious

Offline KneeDeep

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 07:19:06 »
Super neat and alps support, I'm there!

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 08:44:40 »
100% in.  Looks fantastic.

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 08:53:42 »
Cute

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 08:54:35 »
Looks clean! Very nice

Offline BRSxIgnition

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 09:39:34 »
Had me with everything else but lost me at $275 USD for a numpad.

Offline panka

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 09:44:35 »
cool macropad, but the price is god awful

Offline Friendship

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 28 June 2022, 10:45:29 »
Holy **** this packaging is lit af. Cool project GLWIC.
Super neat and alps support, I'm there!
Cute
100% in.  Looks fantastic.
Looks clean! Very nice

Thanks y'all!!! Your kind words and support means a lot to me!!!

Had me with everything else but lost me at $275 USD for a numpad.
This is pretty cool but for 275 it isn't.
275 haha that's hilarious
cool macropad, but the price is god awful

I understand the sentiment, I am a first time runner and the projected price was with a small MOQ in mind. It is not firm and could come down closer to GB (especially if interest grows), but for obvious reasons I cannot guarantee that. I appreciate y'alls thoughts on this!

Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 29 June 2022, 11:43:10 »
that packaging is so sick wtf. I'm not a big numpad guy but this looks great  :thumb:

Offline Slayer77

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 30 June 2022, 15:46:26 »
I hope you can up the unit count and lower the price, would be interested then.

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 30 June 2022, 17:34:22 »
Really interesting but it's a big pass for me with that price tag. GL

Offline SDKCAMPING

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 30 June 2022, 23:29:51 »
Too expensive for me but good luck, o-ring is good
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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 03 July 2022, 14:46:59 »
Really cool but as others have said the price is way too high, is there another manufacturer who can do it for cheaper? I'm interested to know why they're charging so much.

Would much rather have worse packaging, less SKU's and no engravings if it lowers the price.

Offline Hentoys

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Re: [IC] NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 05 July 2022, 12:07:41 »
I am going to jump on the price. Great idea but the price is killer. It's almost as much as a quality TKL.

Offline Friendship

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 24 July 2022, 19:23:30 »
Hey everyone!

First off, thanks everyone for taking the time to fill out the IC, great data coming from that. If you haven't already, please let me know your thoughts!

Second, I have made an updates section in the main post and you will notice some changes above it  based on that. A more firm price will be provided closer to the group buy date but I am happy to be able to confidently drop the price down from the initial $275. Pictures and evaluation of the V2 and V2.5 builds will show up on my discord first, so feel free to hop on in and say hello!
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 25 July 2022, 13:06:53 »
love the idea, but the price looks pretty steep. usually macro pads are around the 100 range, and most people probably wouldn't be willing to spend more

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 25 July 2022, 13:09:50 »
uh yes please

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 25 July 2022, 13:23:13 »
looking forward for this to be going into GB!

Offline BRSxIgnition

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 25 July 2022, 13:36:48 »
With a lower price and the newly added BT support and battery I'm interested.  :cool:

You may be able to further reduce costs by going the GB route and producing more, considering you're currently only doing 21 units? Upping that to 50 or 100 may bring the price down enough to generate that additional interest.

GLWIC.
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Offline Friendship

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 26 July 2022, 10:45:14 »
looking forward for this to be going into GB!

uh yes please

Thanks for the support y'all!!!

With a lower price and the newly added BT support and battery I'm interested.  :cool:

You may be able to further reduce costs by going the GB route and producing more, considering you're currently only doing 21 units? Upping that to 50 or 100 may bring the price down enough to generate that additional interest.

GLWIC.

This is a GB and not in stock

While it would be lovely to be able to get this design into more folks hands, I am hesitant to increase the quantities without vendor support.
« Last Edit: Tue, 26 July 2022, 12:26:51 by Friendship »
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 26 July 2022, 11:47:54 »
Very nice numpad but  very steep price.  I'd be in otherwise.

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 30 August 2022, 19:19:53 »
This looks great fam, glwgb!

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 01 September 2022, 08:37:13 »
This looks great fam, glwgb!

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also a little update, V2.5 prototype should be in hand in 2 weeks time! Also both Alu and PP o-ring V2 proto sound tests are here!

Cherry on Alu
https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentSaltyKangarooPRChase-hpdV_1uDCvYN2_Fa

Cherry on PP
https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousAbnegateWerewolfDxAbomb-Rr_5XkRev7v9-Uz-
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 01 September 2022, 12:41:06 »
Probably my favorite numpad IC going right now, despite the price. Excited to see this go live, especially after hearing those new sound tests.

Offline Friendship

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT Number Pad - 7/24/22 update
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 04 November 2022, 20:48:04 »
Probably my favorite numpad IC going right now, despite the price. Excited to see this go live, especially after hearing those new sound tests.

thank you so much for the kind words! I am very excited to bring this to life!

also revamped the IC in prep for GB in 2 weeks!!! Raffle format so no need to be speedy!
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT NumPad - GB from NOV 19-22!
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 05 November 2022, 07:22:59 »
21 units 😱 finger crossed for the raffle!

Offline Friendship

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT NumPad - GB from NOV 19-22!
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 07 November 2022, 18:53:14 »
21 units 😱 finger crossed for the raffle!

<3 thank you for your interest! May the RNG be with you :)
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR

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Re: [IC] The NUM1 - Gummy O-ring BT NumPad - GB from NOV 19-22!
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 14 November 2022, 10:17:30 »
Hey everyone! GB thread is up here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118848.0

locking the IC thread in prep for GB :)
Collection: LZ GHv2, Esheu Fallacy, Moesode Bliss, Daji Ocho Cuatro, Ace Saturn60, Bolsa Midway60, MLI NUM1, MLI VISION, PW ROTR