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Offline platon

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Stabilizers: I hate them.
« on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 14:10:25 »
There is not much to say about it. I hate stabilizers!
Every time they come into play i lose my temper. Every time!

I feel like i have parkinson's disease and i am requested to perform surgery.

I might be struggling and sweating for an hour to put a spacebar or enter key back in place. I can't do it. Then another day i try it again and i get it right within 5 minutes.

This ain't right.
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Offline platon

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 14:23:51 »
Yes sorry, i should be more specific. I just had a fit with the spacebar of the SGI Granite.

In the past i had serious trouble with the enter key of the Chicony 5181.

Model Ms are the best. Piece of cake indeed.

I haven't tried the Cherry G80-3000 yet.

I wanted to remove the stabilized keys from my Filco but i changed my mind after reading a warning post from Majestouch. It will come to that eventually i need to clean that plate at somepoint. Maybe after drinking some rum.
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Offline Rajagra

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 15:05:28 »
(General hint.) Always try to work out if it's easier to attach the stabiliser to the board first or the keycap first. Sometimes you don't think you have a choice - but look carefully to see if the guides can be pulled from the keycap (for example.)

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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 15:44:02 »
The stabilizer's intimidate me.  I worry about breaking something, but I will definitely refer to the videos, when it comes time to.  
Thank goodness, it is simple on the Realforce 87U space bar.  I definitely removed both ALTs, before popping the key.
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Offline Findecanor

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 16:42:50 »
That is why I so like the Cherry corp stabilizers over all others. The stabilizers have cross-shaped sliders just like the switches: they are as if there are two extra switches that the key attaches to: just pull to remove or press to insert.
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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 20 September 2010, 21:21:48 »
Quote from: Findecanor;224969
That is why I so like the Cherry corp stabilizers over all others. The stabilizers have cross-shaped sliders just like the switches: they are as if there are two extra switches that the key attaches to: just pull to remove or press to insert.


The worst I've seen so far is the DSI/Solidtek ASK-6600.  It's got an ALPS switch, but Cherry-like stabilizers which have to be plugged in (since it won't bottom out enough to match them.  One horizontal, one vertical.  It took like an hour to get back and is probably still wrong.
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Offline Pylon

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 21 September 2010, 16:16:12 »
I find them really simple on my rubber domes. But then, I'm on rubber domes.

I personally stick them to the keys first, hook the ends onto the board, and clip.

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 21 September 2010, 16:21:10 »
Quote from: Findecanor;224969
That is why I so like the Cherry corp stabilizers over all others. The stabilizers have cross-shaped sliders just like the switches: they are as if there are two extra switches that the key attaches to: just pull to remove or press to insert.


I like the IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp stabilizers...

They have none.

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 22 September 2010, 13:22:27 »
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I like the IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp stabilizers...

They have none.

Not the usual ones at least - just these inserts. Which in turn is why RShift can be problematic at some angles.
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Offline joker

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 24 September 2010, 02:30:56 »
while changing the keys on my new filco with the blank caps I broke one of the black stabilizer holders from the right shift key by pulling the cap off... damn, that was frustrating. If I press the key it feels normal, but knowing that something is broken makes me going crazy.

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 24 September 2010, 03:44:48 »
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Not the usual ones at least - just these inserts. Which in turn is why RShift can be problematic at some angles.


I think this is one of those things that depends on the vintage. The older ones were pretty bad, but later ones you can hit it anywhere.

Offline NewbieOneKenobi

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 24 September 2010, 09:42:56 »
I've put paper tape on the ugly spacebar brace in my M.

Offline joker

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 24 September 2010, 14:36:29 »
uhm, btw... is it possible to get replacement stabilizers for filco boards?

Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 24 September 2010, 15:02:40 »
You can PM Majestouch or email him at support@elitekeyboards.com (IIRC), and he'll usually be able to help you out with something like that.