[GB] J80 (JER-A06) Round 2 Group Buy [Production]

[frostylove]

CHECK YOUR GB ORDER STATUS HERE

Welcome to Discord group of DT.Heart: https://discord.gg/RteVhRY

UPDATE:

07/27/2019 - J80 Round 2 orders submitted to the factory. Estimated lead time 3 months.
07/15/2019 - All invoiced, collecting payments.
07/12/2019 - Due to the high shipping cost of SF Express, all EU orders will be shipped by FedEx now.
07/12/2019 - Start invoicing, please check your paypal account.
07/09/2019 - Group Buy is closed now. Thanks everyone for joining! Invoicing soon
07/09/2019 - Add order details spreadsheet
07/01/2019 - Group Buy launched!


Group Buy Details:

- Color options: Vintage white (electrophoresis process), black (anodized), gray (anodized)
- Layout options: Winkey and Winkeyless
- Group Buy opens for one week.
- Estimate lead time: 3 months
- Carrier: SF Express International
- List of items: packing box, top housing, bottom housing, PCB, LED sticker installation module, LED sticker, screws, data cable.
- Price: Vintage White: $440, Black/Gray $420 extra PCB $55/each. All orders comes with 5% handling fee
- Shipping cost: South Korea $31, United States/Canada $61, Singapore/Malaysia/Vietnam $32, Japan $40, United Kingdom/Germany/France/Netherlands/Italy $82.
- Sorry guys NO ORDER SWAP or COLOR CHANGE this time.

J80's debut on GH https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90589
J80 (JER-A06) Round 1 GB https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96264
J80 (JER-A06) Round 2 IC https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101282




JER PLANT - J80 (JER-A06) Round 2 "Electrophoresis White"
The J80 is a OG Cherry style(no plate) custom 80% kit.
It is characterized by the fact that the hoisting PCB has no steel plate and can fully reflect the elasticity of the linear shaft. Tested by the buyer, its feel and typing sound are different from other custom keyboards and are satisfactory. It has a simple and elegant original cherry-like shape, the author's original intention is to start from the touching feel, let everyone have a comfortable tapping experience. The light stick module in the upper right corner is detachable, it could be switches (3 keys) or the light stick module. When using light stick module, PrtScr Scrolllock and Pause are achieved by pressing FN+ Insert / Home / Page Up.

However, due to the tight schedule and the number of orders in China at that time, in order to ensure the quality, 40 sets were limited. On the same day, the group was cut off. Later, due to the author's personal PAYPAL problem, a small part of the order was cut, and I would like to say sorry to all the people who has any trouble with J80 R1 group buy.

At the end of this month, we will bring you a new surface treatment process of J80 - electrophoresis white and anodized J80.
Electrophoresis is characterized by a delicate surface and durability, and this time the electrophoresis white is the same as the white craft used in the previous JER MINI, but there is still a little difference. In order to make it look more retro, the factory opened a brand new processing pool - it will be a slightly yellowish milky white color, compared to the micro-arc gray of j80 R1, both the texture and the color itself have a great upgrade,  check the following pictures for a compariation of the micro-arc gray in R1 and the new electro white in R2.

For Round 2 there're 3 colors to choose from: electrophoresis white, black (anodized), dark gray (anodized). Due to cost, electrophoresis white will be slightly more expensive. This group will no longer provide J PAD or provide J80 NCR color matching, because the author is trying to do some new process J80 NCR color matching which takes some time.

REMINDER:
If you have any questions, please leave a message on this post, or contact the author directly via email: 303669158@qq.com. PM is not recommended cause I may not be able to check all the messages due to some personal issues.

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Approved, best of luck with GB

[gminso]

I cannot buy 2 sets or add extra pcb?

damn.. I refreshed on the submitted GB page.... Did it go through twice? 

[hayt]

This is hot. I just might have to go in for a white one.

[TheArcticFox_27]

Shipping will be invoiced later?

[lsu1245]

I can't choose the winkeyless layout. Please check this.


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[obtuse]

I already joined, but like Isu1245 mentioned, there's no option to choose between Winkey and Winkeyless. 

edit: also, How much of a difference is there between the black and dark gray? I cannot really tell from the photos. Looks like white and dark gray in them.

[glubazoid]

Like the others said, no option for WK or WKL yet, but filled the form regardless.

WKL is my preference tho

[Fnzzy]

I'll be in once we know how to select WKL. Looking good!

[oew]

Looks great, I’m in! Does it use USB Type-C?

[Smoff]

Looks great, I’m in! Does it use USB Type-C?

Pretty sure you are gonna have to solder the cable to the pcb, just like in r1

[poodude]

Looks really good, however this should really be $100 cheaper considering its simple construction/materials. The Rama u80a is the exact same price.

[driftingbunnies]

Looks really good, however this should really be $100 cheaper considering its simple construction/materials. The Rama u80a is the exact same price.

I think it's easy to assume that it should be $100 cheaper when you compare "features" from other boards but I'm not sure where you came up with $100. The slope to match the vintage style costs more than just a straight line when compared to the Rama U80A. Also, it's hard to compare costs if quantities are vastly different. I think it could be cheaper but I think $420 is a solid price when you consider everything else in addition to construction/materials.

[steezkeez]

I have submitted the GB form, but as others have stated, the options are not clear to select WK or WKL. I would like to specify WKL for my order, thank you.

[oew]

Looks great, I’m in! Does it use USB Type-C?

Pretty sure you are gonna have to solder the cable to the pcb, just like in r1

Ah, thanks! A good excuse to get a Lemo cable then

[lsu1245]

There is only one option of layout winkeylesswinkey. Please check again.


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[oew]

Will ISO or ANSI be options to? Like in R1. Or is it a universal pcb this round?

[sl70309]

Will ISO or ANSI be options to? Like in R1. Or is it a universal pcb this round?

it is again universal, support both ANSI and ISO.

[sl70309]

I cannot buy 2 sets or add extra pcb?

damn.. I refreshed on the submitted GB page.... Did it go through twice? 

you can email to the author (email address above) if you want to buy more than one kit and extra PCBs

[sl70309]

Like the others said, no option for WK or WKL yet, but filled the form regardless.

WKL is my preference tho

fixed

[sl70309]

There is only one option of layout winkeylesswinkey. Please check again.


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fixed

[eyedrop]

Should we fill out the form again with the new fix?

[driftingbunnies]

How much would an extra PCB cost? Also, i would like to know if i should fill out the form again as well.

[frostylove]

Sorry guys now the form is fixed with correct layout/extra PCB options to choose

For anyone who submit before, I will contact you guys personally by PM to confirm your preferences on the Layout(Winkey or Winkeyless) and extra PCBs.

Thanks again for joining the GB!

[jaang]

will shipping address be whatever is currently the paypal address? or is it possible to provide a separate shipping address

[catamscott]

in for a vintage white  hope that hiney pcb does actually come to fruition. either way, super excited to eventually get my hands on this!

[frostylove]

will shipping address be whatever is currently the paypal address? or is it possible to provide a separate shipping address

Yes you can specify a shipping address different from your paypal address

[jaang]

will shipping address be whatever is currently the paypal address? or is it possible to provide a separate shipping address

Yes you can specify a shipping address different from your paypal address

I'm assuming that will be done when we're invoiced? As I don't see an option to provide a different shipping address in the form.

[jiniya204]

Can you show the difference between 1R white and 2R white?
Is there a lot of color difference?

[oew]

Would be nice with more info on the PCB, supported layouts and QMK support especially.

[obtuse]

Is this gray or the black? Can be hard to tell because of different lighting sometimes. Not sure how dark the gray is supposed to be, now that there is a new white and one of the photos is really white and one is grayish.

[sl70309]

Can you show the difference between 1R white and 2R white?
Is there a lot of color difference?

R1 white is MAO, it can be easily scratched. R2 white is more resistant to scratch, and it is whiter, and a lot better than R1 white.

[driftingbunnies]

Would you consider adding doing something different for the USB cable? It seems like a lot of people in R1 had a difficult time with soldering the cable to the board.

[steezkeez]

Would you consider adding doing something different for the USB cable? It seems like a lot of people in R1 had a difficult time with soldering the cable to the board.

+1

[Poesjuh]

$82 shipping for me, god damn.... GB for a week, closing July 6th?


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[Fnzzy]

In for a gray WKL.

[HungerMechanic]

Is this GB really open only for a week - until July 6th?

[TheFreakOfSpeed]

Was looking forward to round two. miss out last time because I couldn't activate my regristaration on geekhack 
Do you have a shipping price to Australia?

No NCR Color option and No Number pad option may be a deal breaker.

[EMC Labs]

Shipping to Australia?

[sl70309]

Would you consider adding doing something different for the USB cable? It seems like a lot of people in R1 had a difficult time with soldering the cable to the board.

R2 will comes with plastic pin header for easy soldering, module number is eh2.54, also, no more cable peeling.

[sl70309]

Shipping to Australia?

$71

[sl70309]

Is this GB really open only for a week - until July 6th?

July 7

[glubazoid]

Are you sending invoices once the GB ends?

[eyedrop]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

[Poesjuh]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Nope. With a blocker that isn't possible.
Even -without a blocker- you can only do;
1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1

[flying1911]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Yes you can.

[eyedrop]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Nope. With a blocker that isn't possible.
Even -without a blocker- you can only do;
1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1

Yes winkey configuration means without blocker.

Hmm, flying1911 above said it is possible.  Now I am

[Poesjuh]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Nope. With a blocker that isn't possible.
Even -without a blocker- you can only do;
1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1

Yes winkey configuration means without blocker.

Hmm, flying1911 above said it is possible.  Now I am

See picture here;
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/8d4962e53782873f10aff49c5cecae6a/5DA73588/t51.2885-15/e35/60309371_647362059059982_7103365900098958320_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com

Winkey on both sides can't be done on a 65%, left arrow is in the way. UNLESS you swap to 6u spacebar and change it entirely.

[eyedrop]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Nope. With a blocker that isn't possible.
Even -without a blocker- you can only do;
1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1

Yes winkey configuration means without blocker.

Hmm, flying1911 above said it is possible.  Now I am

See picture here;
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/8d4962e53782873f10aff49c5cecae6a/5DA73588/t51.2885-15/e35/60309371_647362059059982_7103365900098958320_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com

Winkey on both sides can't be done on a 65%, left arrow is in the way. UNLESS you swap to 6u spacebar and change it entirely.

I think you mistaken this with the JER Mini.  This is the J80, a TKL keyboard.

[Poesjuh]

If we pick winkey layout, is it possible to have 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5 bottom row?

Nope. With a blocker that isn't possible.
Even -without a blocker- you can only do;
1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1.5-1-1-1

Yes winkey configuration means without blocker.

Hmm, flying1911 above said it is possible.  Now I am

See picture here;
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/8d4962e53782873f10aff49c5cecae6a/5DA73588/t51.2885-15/e35/60309371_647362059059982_7103365900098958320_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com

Winkey on both sides can't be done on a 65%, left arrow is in the way. UNLESS you swap to 6u spacebar and change it entirely.

I think you mistaken this with the JER Mini.  This is the J80, a TKL keyboard.

You are correct sir. I have absolutely no idea why I failed here, must have looked at another keyboard and then saw the question :S Brainfart.

[Rayndalf]

Looks really good, however this should really be $100 cheaper considering its simple construction/materials. The Rama u80a is the exact same price.

The G60 (similar sloped sides also inspired by the G80-3000, only in a 60% form factor) was $300 base, but some colors raised it $36. This uses significantly more material and has an F-row and nav cluster, but no plate or Bluetooth connectivity so $420 really isn't absurd for the volume, but I would like a better PCB.

[pr0ximity]

In,  very excited to finally try one of these. The new white color sounds perfect 

Is EVE still the OEM?

[idlemao]

Is today or tomorrow the last day?

[MU Studio-木妈妈]

it is really a beautiful keyboard.Retro keyboard classic

[driftingbunnies]

when can we expect invoices?

[frostylove]

when can we expect invoices?

We will start invoicing very soon

Thanks!

[andino]

Dang I own an r1 a06 and would have loved a second! Bummed I missed out on this!

[iEatPuppers]

Will orders with extra pcb's also be receiving an extra cable?

[eyedrop]

Will orders with extra pcb's also be receiving an extra cable?

That is a great question.  Hopefully it does.   

[frostylove]

Will orders with extra pcb's also be receiving an extra cable?

sorry one cable per board

[pr0ximity]

Is EVE still the OEM?

Bump ^

Invoice paid 

[Fnzzy]

Not sure if anyone here is not in the discord but it has been confirmed that CNC is done.

[eyedrop]

How are we doing?  Any update?

[catamscott]

How are we doing?  Any update?

Currently anodizing, and about two weeks ago they were doing electrophoresis

[steezkeez]

Any update on anodization status or expected ship date? I believe we're right at the 3 month lead time estimate.

[Fnzzy]

Started shipping a couple of days ago.

[ricesteam]

Started shipping a couple of days ago.

If this is true, I may even get this before my KBD8x Mk2 lol

[Fnzzy]

from the discord.

[idlemao]

Who do I contact to update my shipping info?

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[Fnzzy]

From the OP

REMINDER:
If you have any questions, please leave a message on this post, or contact the author directly via email: 303669158@qq.com. PM is not recommended cause I may not be able to check all the messages due to some personal issues.

Can also check the google sheet in the OP, I believe the tracking number is supposed to get added at some point.

[ricesteam]

How do I join the discord group?

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from the discord.

[Fnzzy]

Discord invite link is the second line in the OP.

https://discord.gg/RteVhRY

[Fnzzy]

Does anyone in this group buy know how to port this PCB to QMK? If not, would anyone in this GB be willing to send their PCB to someone who knows how? We're currently discussing this in the Discord and there might be some cost splitting happening if we can set something up.

[catamscott]

so, the cable was supposed to be included, right? my nice little cable cutout is very much empty  could i theoretically use any old usb cable?

[Fnzzy]

Damn that sucks big time.

But theoretically yes you could solder on any USB cable. I am still toying with the idea of soldering a USB header on an OG cable and using that.

[obtuse]

Any USB cable is fine. On my R1 I used a custom cable that is detachable, and I will probably do it this time as well.

[oew]

Does anyone in this group buy know how to port this PCB to QMK? If not, would anyone in this GB be willing to send their PCB to someone who knows how? We're currently discussing this in the Discord and there might be some cost splitting happening if we can set something up.

We have someone willing to do the porting to QMK. If anyone in the US want to help out by shipping out their (extra) PCB I'll pay for the shipping.

[ricesteam]

Mine just arrived. Does anyone know if the feet are supposed to be included with the kit because I can't find any in mine.

Edit: Nevermind, I didn't realize the feet were the 3m stick-on feet.

[oew]

Does anyone in this group buy know how to port this PCB to QMK? If not, would anyone in this GB be willing to send their PCB to someone who knows how? We're currently discussing this in the Discord and there might be some cost splitting happening if we can set something up.

We have someone willing to do the porting to QMK. If anyone in the US want to help out by shipping out their (extra) PCB I'll pay for the shipping.

I watched some vods and talked to the amazing people in the QMK Discord and now I'm running QMK on my PCB. Need to do some clean up of the code, but will do a PR to the main repo when the code is ready.

[jb1830]

Are there any slots still available from cancelled/unpaid orders?

[Fnzzy]

I'd wait for that to be honest. Some of us are not getting what we ordered. Missing extra PCBs, some are getting three cables instead of only 1 etc.

EDIT: or like the guy above just straight up not getting a cable at all lmao. How could I forget.

[udller]

i got mine yesterday. every thing was in the box that should have been, so im happy.

[Fnzzy]

I got my keyboard without damage and the box included everything I ordered! If anyone else is still curious about that plastic header that was supposed to come with the board but didn't, this right here should be the correct part. A right angle XH2.54 header. You need the 4 pin variant.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32982059104.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.315e261fVYp9Xm&algo_pvid=951b63d2-0bf1-401a-a35e-0113701fd619&algo_expid=951b63d2-0bf1-401a-a35e-0113701fd619-6&btsid=b3beaf8e-dd89-4d16-bbf9-9ec0f41332eb&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_53

[Fnzzy]

Double post for some photos.

[eyedrop]

What are you mapping the numlock indicator to do on a TKL?

[Fnzzy]

I don't know how to do any of that fancy stuff, so for now it's numlock. Might try connecting it with the mute button. LED off meaning sound is off. I don't actually have LEDs installed as of yet, will do that plus some other minor changes when I install the new cable in a month or so.

[HungerMechanic]

Should have bought one when round 2 was offered. Didn't have any tactiles for it, though.

With Zealio V1 [and Zilent V1] being out-of-production, I don't know what I'd put in it. Maybe something simple like Aliaz.

[iEatPuppers]

Should have bought one when round 2 was offered. Didn't have any tactiles for it, though.

With Zealio V1 [and Zilent V1] being out-of-production, I don't know what I'd put in it. Maybe something simple like Aliaz.

Ergo clears.

[HungerMechanic]

Yeah, Ergo Clears would be perfect. I'm gonna have to learn how to make some.

[Fnzzy]

It's just MX Clear with a lighter spring of your choice.

[click clack jack]

Lovely board! How do i get the LED's on the top right to work?

[Poesjuh]

[mention]frostylove [/mention] since this is the last topic you were active in, any chance we can get in touch? Hoping you could help me with a matrix Abel question.

Sorry for weird place to ask but can’t send you a pm


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[nastrovje]

Looking for one if anyone wants to give his up.

[Fnzzy]

Looking for one if anyone wants to give his up.

Round 3 going up soon. Check ICs.

[Pheyn]

Hey all, sorry to necro this thread but, does anyone know what size screws are used to attach the pcb to the case? I bought a j80 off mechmarket but those screws are missing and the original owner is unable to find them. Thanks!

Edit: Nvm, found some replacements

[HungerMechanic]

Okay, so I have a couple of questions regarding the JER-A06.

First, when is it coming back?

Second, how does in compare, in practice, to the new NCR80 board that also mimics the old Cherry G80-3000? Obviously, the NCR80 is built way cheaper, but how might the typing experience be different?