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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #200 on: Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:05:18 »
Ling, I followed you on instagramz, so you better post stuff.  o:
I still haven't bought one, and I want one now... somebody recommend me a kendama.

I also followed him on instagram.  :))  He does post some good stuff!  I'm always amazed by how good you are, Lingj.  Wayyy better than me, that's for sure!   :p
:-[  I'm still not happy with how slow I'm progressing! I need to get better!!
On 2nd note I can't wait for my Mugens to come in. I actually don't feel worthy enough to play them, I'll just look at them in envy until I get better.
I won't be buying another kendama for a while.


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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #201 on: Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:30:45 »
I still need to get my spike consistent.

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« Reply #202 on: Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:12:13 »
I still need to get my spike consistent.
Keep at it! Just try popping it up as straight as you can. I kinda flick it up instead of a long pull. Dont spike it and just see how straight you pulled it up.

Improved a lot today. Figured out how to do earthturn consistently and cup to spike transfers solid. All about the knees.

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« Reply #203 on: Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:21:15 »
Man that peach kendama is so nice.

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« Reply #204 on: Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:43:33 »
I still need to get my spike consistent.
Keep at it! Just try popping it up as straight as you can. I kinda flick it up instead of a long pull. Dont spike it and just see how straight you pulled it up.

Improved a lot today. Figured out how to do earthturn consistently and cup to spike transfers solid. All about the knees.
I'm sure I can get my spike consistent with a little practise. Even at keycon I was starting to get it.

how do you get it form the cup to the spike? for me it's usually on the cup at a wrong angle or whatever. Not sure what to do next.

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« Reply #205 on: Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:54:32 »
I still need to get my spike consistent.
Keep at it! Just try popping it up as straight as you can. I kinda flick it up instead of a long pull. Dont spike it and just see how straight you pulled it up.

Improved a lot today. Figured out how to do earthturn consistently and cup to spike transfers solid. All about the knees.
I'm sure I can get my spike consistent with a little practise. Even at keycon I was starting to get it.

how do you get it form the cup to the spike? for me it's usually on the cup at a wrong angle or whatever. Not sure what to do next.

At that point it's mostly just practicing how to control the tama. Like if the hole is facing you, you pop the tama away from you and the hole goes down. You need to compensate if the angle is not right. Mainly muscle memory or once you get good at controlling the tama you can just put the hole facing you all the time. I try not to spike the tama at an angle, always trying to control the tama so the hole is facing down so all I need to do is face the spike upright and it creates less room for error.

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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #206 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:39:13 »
It's here and they are beautiful.


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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #207 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 12:41:43 »
Hi lingj thanks for proxying those for me!

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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #208 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 14:11:17 »
The blue one. So pretty. ;w;

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« Reply #209 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 14:23:10 »
Hi lingj thanks for proxying those for me!
I SEE HOW IT IS.

You don't want me to proxy because you "don't want to start a collection".

I've been jilted! I'll have teach you a lesson in proper kendama use next time we meet.

Anyway, my KO kendama order arrived! Only one of these is mine. Make sure to click on them for larger size so they don't look all aliased.



Sadly I can't get the tama off the spike. I may just cut the string and install the replacement. The other two are fine.
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« Reply #210 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 14:24:51 »
Hi lingj thanks for proxying those for me!
I SEE HOW IT IS.

You don't want me to proxy because you "don't want to start a collection".

Anyway, my KO kendama order arrived! Only one of these is mine.
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Sadly I can't get the tama off the spike. I may just cut the string and install the replacement. The other two are fine.
Well thanks for proxying these for me. ;)

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« Reply #211 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 14:25:47 »
Ugh, dorkvader those were supposed to be for me too. I hope you got 6?

But seriously, those kendama are gorgeous and now I regret not listening to you DV :(

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« Reply #212 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 14:32:20 »
But seriously, those kendama are gorgeous and now I regret not listening to you DV :(
It's cool. B'sides now I have an excuse to grudge match you in kendamas next time we meet.

You're missing out man, these things look pretty sick and probably perform really well (assuming you can get them apart). They also fit perfectly on the mantelpiece.

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« Reply #213 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 21:42:55 »


Since we're sharing! And I'm not gonna play on this one until I've mastered everything. It's too pretty : ' ]
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« Reply #214 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 22:43:12 »
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Since we're sharing! And I'm not gonna play on this one until I've mastered everything. It's too pretty : ' ]
Such a pretty kendama, I understand why you don't want to beat it up.
Just learn how to do things lightly and it won't get beat up.


I measured the weights of my two kendamas.

Oozora woodgrain:
Ken weight: 70g
Tama weight: 60g
total: 130g

KO kendama fishbone
Ken weight: 70g
Tama weight: 75g
total: 145g

The fishbone tama, despite being quite heavy, is pretty easy to handle. I spiked it first try with no issue.

Now I have to learn all over again how to use a kendama with paint on it. I considered getting the fishskin version, but that would probably be too much of a jump!

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« Reply #215 on: Fri, 29 August 2014, 23:08:21 »
I check the weight of some of my kendamas:

Peach
Tama: 81.5 grams
Ken: 74 grams

Blue Prism
Tama: 74 grams
Ken: 76 grams

Ozora Natural
Tama: 65 grams
Ken: 74 grams

Sweets Focus
Tama: 79 grams
Ken: 74 grams

KendamaUSA Pro Model
Tama: 84 grams
Ken: 81 grams

I was expecting the Mugens to be near perfect balance but the peach is off by a lot. I switched out the kens from both so now the prism has the same weight for both ken and tama.
Also I am currently experimenting with my Ozora by adding an oil finish to the wood to make it look darker. I'm trying to get something similar to what these guys do.
http://www.rootskendama.bigcartel.com/product/bright-salmon-ozora

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« Reply #216 on: Sat, 30 August 2014, 05:38:59 »
I was gonna joke about putting LEDs and modding your kendamas, then I saw this:


Didn't realize how many of these things are out there and how there are SO many communities dedicated to these things on the internet.
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« Reply #217 on: Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:19:08 »
I was gonna joke about putting LEDs and modding your kendamas, then I saw this:


Didn't realize how many of these things are out there and how there are SO many communities dedicated to these things on the internet.

Indeed, although it has a niche community similar to geekhack there is a lot of brands of kendama each having  a different feel from one another.

New clip is up  ;D

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« Reply #218 on: Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:25:42 »
I just spiked my oozora 10 times in a row!

I've taken to spiking it more than my new one to try and avoid getting little circular divots in the tama.

Still don't know what I"m doing right though.

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« Reply #219 on: Fri, 05 September 2014, 19:10:36 »
I can't do anything. o3o;

It's still fun trying to catch the tama using three different spots in a row though.  xD

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« Reply #220 on: Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:51:42 »
I can't do anything. o3o;

It's still fun trying to catch the tama using three different spots in a row though.  xD

use your knees more.

all about the knees.

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« Reply #221 on: Sat, 06 September 2014, 09:11:14 »
The girlshark and hoff himself have been making me look foolish irl. However, kendama boot camp is definitely a good thing.

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« Reply #222 on: Fri, 12 September 2014, 20:51:43 »
Kendama reminds me of astrojax.  Anyone remember those?   I went to a party, saw a guy doing tricks that looked like he was juggling dna.   I now have an led and non led set collecting dust in my drawer.

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« Reply #223 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:13:36 »
Kendama reminds me of astrojax.  Anyone remember those?   I went to a party, saw a guy doing tricks that looked like he was juggling dna.   I now have an led and non led set collecting dust in my drawer.

Skilltoys are pretty fun. I'm thinking of getting a yoyo again.
How is everyone doing. Still practicing?  :p

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« Reply #224 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:16:52 »
Still playing, just at a slower pace. Too embarassed to make pictures since you're so skilled lingj :(

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« Reply #225 on: Wed, 24 September 2014, 19:23:12 »
Skilltoys are pretty fun. I'm thinking of getting a yoyo again.
How is everyone doing. Still practicing?  :p


I'm going to start back up today. I just had that revelation that I always get when I'm busy doing one thing for an extended period of time. That "oh my god I forgot I had so many interests" feeling.

Super motivated right now. I need to learn how to moderate doing all the cool things I'm into instead of cutting things out completely, I guess. I swear this feels like a life lesson right now I need to tweet it or sign up for a blog and write it out


Still playing, just at a slower pace. Too embarassed to make pictures since you're so skilled lingj :(

get on instagram and we can share achievements. I'll post the next skill I get down pat jus4ubb
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« Reply #226 on: Thu, 25 September 2014, 21:32:08 »
just introduced it to my friend from seattle. She's usually really clumsy but picked up kendama like super quick! She's only been at it a little while and already has all the cup transfers pretty well down. I linked her some where to buy.

She says it's really addicting.

I've got the airplane down and am worknig on flipping the ken 360 and catching it in the tama. How is that even a beginner skill ? oh well I'll get it.

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« Reply #227 on: Mon, 29 September 2014, 23:58:47 »
Tell me what skills you are learning
Don't tell me you all quit already!

I can't get instagram videos to work (in either browser) or I'd just watch lingj. But since I can't, I still have hope! I need in know what I'm up against next keycon to cement my second place.

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« Reply #228 on: Tue, 30 September 2014, 00:12:49 »
Tell me what skills you are learning
Don't tell me you all quit already!

I can't get instagram videos to work (in either browser) or I'd just watch lingj. But since I can't, I still have hope! I need in know what I'm up against next keycon to cement my second place.

Recently I have learned spacewalk, juggling, bird over valley, airplane, jumping stick, lighthouse in, 1turn gunslinger earthturn, inverted pull in, and tradespike.
Currently learning handroll and getting more consistent with tama tricks.
I am having a lot of trouble getting downspike.

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« Reply #229 on: Tue, 30 September 2014, 10:54:40 »
Tell me what skills you are learning
Don't tell me you all quit already!

I can't get instagram videos to work (in either browser) or I'd just watch lingj. But since I can't, I still have hope! I need in know what I'm up against next keycon to cement my second place.
I'm not learning anything in particular right now. I just am practicing my overall consistency. I should try and learn similes tricks though.

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« Reply #230 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 10:51:17 »
Still trying to spike and do so consistently :(

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« Reply #231 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 11:04:03 »

Still trying to spike and do so consistently :(

A wise man once told me to "make moves son". I advise you to do the same.

:-*

Good luck I hope you get it soon!

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« Reply #232 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 11:05:17 »
I'm practicing occasionally! That's also why I'm coming to WI. Kendama team bootcamp.

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« Reply #233 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 12:51:17 »

I'm practicing occasionally! That's also why I'm coming to WI. Kendama team bootcamp.

Oh hell yeah! We're gonna get so good! 

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« Reply #234 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 12:59:00 »
I will try to make the Chicago meetup in the Spring so be ready to duke it out!

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« Reply #235 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 14:12:22 »
Still trying to spike and do so consistently :(

try spinning the tama :p

on my recently acquired fishbone, I found out the hole isn't drilled straight making it a lot harder to spike. I basically only use it for cup transfers and tama-grip tricks. I forget what it's called, but I did the one where you hold the tama, and spike the ken into it and then flip the ken backwards and catch it upright on the tama. I don't know if I can do it again so easily though.

I would also feel bad about selling it, 'cause whoever gets it would have to put up with an inferior kendama. The search for a decent one continues, as my beat up oozora will not last forever.

Maybe I'll just get this one on my next paycheque
http://shop.kendamausa.com/collections/krom-kendamas/products/krom-deluxe-v3-mahogany-emerald

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« Reply #236 on: Wed, 01 October 2014, 14:32:45 »
Still trying to spike and do so consistently :(

try spinning the tama :p

on my recently acquired fishbone, I found out the hole isn't drilled straight making it a lot harder to spike. I basically only use it for cup transfers and tama-grip tricks. I forget what it's called, but I did the one where you hold the tama, and spike the ken into it and then flip the ken backwards and catch it upright on the tama. I don't know if I can do it again so easily though.

I would also feel bad about selling it, 'cause whoever gets it would have to put up with an inferior kendama. The search for a decent one continues, as my beat up oozora will not last forever.

Maybe I'll just get this one on my next paycheque
http://shop.kendamausa.com/collections/krom-kendamas/products/krom-deluxe-v3-mahogany-emerald
I don't own a fishbone but if you take a look, Ozoras have an off center hole. That's because it makes it easier to do spinning tricks. If you're looking for a solid dama, I'd recommend a
Premium Ozora,  KendamaCo Zen Girrs, or Homegrown Sweets.

Also the trick you mentioned is Airplane to Jumping Stick.

Roots also makes really nice custom Ozoras
http://www.rootskendama.bigcartel.com/category/ozora
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Re: GeekHack Kendama Team
« Reply #237 on: Sat, 25 October 2014, 19:31:39 »
I hope you guys seshed it out at the meetup!!

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« Reply #238 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 13:39:11 »
Spreading the love to Florida.


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« Reply #239 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 23:22:29 »
Spreading the love to Florida.

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are you a distributor now?

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« Reply #240 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 23:41:40 »
Spreading the love to Florida.

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are you a distributor now?

I'm trying to see how much interest there will be locally. I'm selling the kendamas at a Japanese Festival at my parents booth that sells Oriental Plants. I'll be starting a meetup every Friday for like two hours to see if there could be a potential scene in Florida. I feel like if the other states can have a kendama scene then why can't it be at Florida too. The only thing I have against me is that I'm still not that good and can't show kendamas full potential. I can still impress people but will people be like "man I want to do that too."

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« Reply #241 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 23:44:16 »
Spreading the love to Florida.

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Holy **** man. Selling kendamas now huh? Oh whoops, didn't see your last post.

And I'm horrible and I somehow managed to get you into Kendama with a Youtube video so I think you're in a good position. You in real life > Youtube.

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« Reply #242 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 00:41:24 »
The only thing I have against me is that I'm still not that good
You're too humble. There's thousands of people on GH and you're one of the best. If they had a Kendama Tournament in Florida you'd be on the top.

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« Reply #243 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:53:38 »
Here's my reflection from the festival:
I had a little section to myself to show people what kendama was next to my family businesses' booth. The festival was local and most families are upper-middle class.

1. Many of the people that passed by showed some interest it, most people tried it out and found it pretty difficult to do. Out of those people, some people asked me how much they were. The kendamas I had were mostly $18-$22 with some at twenty-six and thirty dollars.

2. I think it's very difficult to sell kendamas at this price point because many people don't think a piece of wood is that much money and it's something they may or may not be committed to. But Yomega Kendamas are sold at Target here for about $16. Michaels and Toysrus have it but not sure about the price.

3. As much as I don't like doing this, a better approach to starting interest here would be to sell cheaper quality kendamas that are around ten dollars. When there is more interest, a higher price point with higher quality kendamas is more feasible.

4. Having two people demoing it is better than one person. Less intimidating to try it.

5. I've only been playing for four months but I can do tricks that impress people so that's not really the problem. When people see me playing they probably have a mentality that this is something they will never be able to do.

6. I had fliers for starting a club at my nearby park but there wasn't much interest.

7. I was only able to sell one natty kendama and two kids from a Judo dojo had kendamas. Only a couple people knew about them but never owned one or owned them when they were younger

Not really what I was expecting but I will keep trying. There may be more potential at my university. Here's a picture of my friend and I with those kids.


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« Reply #244 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:57:24 »
cheap chinese kendamas don't look too bad quality from the photos.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60612.msg1400708#msg1400708

You will find more interest at Uni, I can almost guarantee it. Just gotta advertise on all the free spaces, etc.

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« Reply #245 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 23:03:16 »
cheap chinese kendamas don't look too bad quality from the photos.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60612.msg1400708#msg1400708

You will find more interest at Uni, I can almost guarantee it. Just gotta advertise on all the free spaces, etc.
I agree. Will probably scour alibaba or banggood.

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« Reply #246 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:45:49 »
I've been considering doing something similar up here in Boston at NorthEastern university. But I wanna get considerably better first. Right now the most advanced trick I can consistently do is airplane. :-[ But practice makes perfect. ;D

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« Reply #247 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:47:18 »
Major props for at least trying to get people into it lingj :D

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« Reply #248 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:29:05 »
I've been considering doing something similar up here in Boston at NorthEastern university. But I wanna get considerably better first. Right now the most advanced trick I can consistently do is airplane. :-[ But practice makes perfect. ;D
I'll come to your kendama club!

my airplane isn't even that consistent. Maybe 5-7/10

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« Reply #249 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:37:31 »
I've been considering doing something similar up here in Boston at NorthEastern university. But I wanna get considerably better first. Right now the most advanced trick I can consistently do is airplane. :-[ But practice makes perfect. ;D
I'll come to your kendama club!

my airplane isn't even that consistent. Maybe 5-7/10
I'll let you know when I start. ;)
When I first start for the day I get like 7/10 of my airplanes. But once I get into a rhythm (after like 5 or so minutes) I can hit 9-10/10.