Author Topic: Satan GH60 (Read 130942 times)

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #100 on:** Thu, 21 January 2016, 16:55:05 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Thu, 21 January 2016, 15:38:24

I still need to solder mine Now i'm scared

Check twice, solder once! I always seem to put one switch in the wrong place. It's easy to slip up when you are looking at the layout upside down

If you are going with in switch LEDs and the SMD LEDs remember this - not all of them go on the board the same way! Most of them follow a pattern, but some at the other way around.

hasu · « **Reply #101 on:** Thu, 21 January 2016, 18:50:14 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:10:44

Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:43:05
I got confused and actually worked on my work-stuff instead...

nathan: That is true now, but wasn't then. I'll fix it, though. You know, in that fantastical period of time where things actually get done.

Edit: I saved the gist in a somewhat unstable state. DO NOT USE AS IS.
Use this old version instead: https://gist.github.com/to***erl/7182f2c6dd803a68b952/50600b177c32f22add6d1341b11babcf3bf19de8

There are two 404'd links in your tutorial here https://gist.github.com/to***erl/7182f2c6dd803a68b952.

I really dont know what i'm doing

I guess this is because poor dirty word filter. ****ing censorship!

http://bit.ly/1Wz8biT

BTW, "f a g" are charactors censored.

Moistgun · « **Reply #102 on:** Thu, 21 January 2016, 20:12:07 »

Quote from: hasu on Thu, 21 January 2016, 18:50:14

Quote from: Moistgun on Tue, 19 January 2016, 09:10:44
Quote from: tofgerl on Tue, 19 January 2016, 07:43:05
I got confused and actually worked on my work-stuff instead...

nathan: That is true now, but wasn't then. I'll fix it, though. You know, in that fantastical period of time where things actually get done.

Edit: I saved the gist in a somewhat unstable state. DO NOT USE AS IS.
Use this old version instead: https://gist.github.com/to***erl/7182f2c6dd803a68b952/50600b177c32f22add6d1341b11babcf3bf19de8

There are two 404'd links in your tutorial here https://gist.github.com/to***erl/7182f2c6dd803a68b952.

I really dont know what i'm doing

I guess this is because poor dirty word filter. ****ing censorship!

http://bit.ly/1Wz8biT

BTW, "f a g" are charactors censored.

Lol that is rough !

Moistgun · « **Reply #103 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 06:30:58 »

Quote from: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 19 January 2016, 06:09:49

Yep, both shifts and pause (which is in the function layer) did it for me... Funnily enough, I flashed a layout which didn't have the pause key on it, but the PCB button started to work after that :/

Tofgerl: the steps for deleting 'tmk_core*' folders, I think you just need to do 'git submodule update'.

How do I locate the pause key?
I need to try to reflash not using the button, and dont know what to press.

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #104 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 06:34:43 »

Hmmm, I don't remember the stock layout.

http://www.keyboardtester.com

Go this site, hold your function key and test until you find it.

Moistgun · « **Reply #105 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 06:44:26 »

Ah well I found pause, but it didnt get past waiting for bootloader with that or the button

Can anyone help me reflash my PCB, if the magic shift pause combo, nor the hardware button work.

they both seem to just turn off the board, and the tkg toolkit just says waiting for bootloader

berserkfan · « **Reply #106 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 09:02:39 »

Sounds like Satan is at work on your kb... you asked for it

Moistgun · « **Reply #107 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 09:11:03 »

I guess im an idiot, because I dont understand to***erls write up.

I dont know what Im supposed to be downloading or how im supposed to use git.

tofgerl · « **Reply #108 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:53:50 »

There are tons of guides for how to use git. There's no reason for me to make another one.

Moistgun · « **Reply #109 on:** Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:06:52 »

Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:53:50

There are tons of guides for how to use git. There's no reason for me to make another one.

I never suggested that you should. only that I don't understand it.

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #110 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:09:13 »

Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:53:50

There are tons of guides for how to use git. There's no reason for me to make another one.

Quote from: Moistgun on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:06:52

Quote from: tofgerl on Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:53:50
There are tons of guides for how to use git. There's no reason for me to make another one.

I never suggested that you should. only that I don't understand it.

Unfortunately I don't think there is a way for the guide to be much simpler.

If you give more precise information on which step you are stuck on then maybe we help more.

What platform are you in? Which software have you installed? If you are following the guide you shouldn't be at the step of flashing until you've programmed your new firmware.

Moistgun · « **Reply #111 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:55:39 »

My interpretation of another users earlier post was that I only needed to

create a keyboard layout in github
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/

paste that raw data into the tmk keymap generator
http://keyboard.fans/tkg/

and run the reflash toolkit.

I attempted to follow to***erls guide, but I dont have the time to learn how to manually program my own firmware. honestly I dont even know how to download the dependencies I need, or what dependencies even mean. I couldnt even figure out what I was supposed to download since there were a dozen download links on that page.
I usually am open to following these rabbit holes to figure stuff out myself. But if I cant just create a layout, use a generator, and run some quick flash, Im just going to have to stick to the default layer that comes on the PCB for now.

tofgerl · « **Reply #112 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 12:56:24 »

Well then you're screwed. If you don't have time to find out how to do it, you're not going to be able to do it.

Moistgun · « **Reply #113 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 13:08:57 »

It seems that way.

Glod · « **Reply #114 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:20:32 »

i used TKG with the GH60 revCHN option, downloaded the eep, it was easy.

i used the instructions mentioned earlier by sakai4eva
https://imgur.com/a/rfezG

made my own adjustments for normal ansi125 with 2 layers, leds auto on and led keys mapped.

TMK is already ez, but this made it even easier, and i couldnt get the leds to work properly with normal tmk method, didn't feel like troubleshooting at the time.

Moistgun · « **Reply #115 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 20:13:27 »

I figured out how to program all my layers and get everything working.

I made all my layers and layouts on keyboard layout editor
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/

I pasted the raw data into the TMK keymap generator, and downloaded the eep file.
http://www.enjoyclick.org/tkg/

I downloaded kairyu's toolkit.
ran setup with options 2,N,1,1

My problem was that I was simply clicking the reflash program.
The solution was to drag the keymap.eep to the reflash and run.

It turned the board off completely, and I needed to press any key on another keyboard.

Fin

tofgerl · « **Reply #116 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 20:59:11 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Mon, 08 February 2016, 20:13:27

I figured out how to program all my layers and get everything working.

I made all my layers and layouts on keyboard layout editor
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/

I pasted the raw data into the TMK keymap generator, and downloaded the eep file.
http://www.enjoyclick.org/tkg/

I downloaded kairyu's toolkit.
ran setup with options 2,N,1,1

My problem was that I was simply clicking the reflash program.
The solution was to drag the keymap.eep to the reflash and run.

It turned the board off completely, and I needed to press any key on another keyboard.

Fin

There you go!
Effort pays

Moistgun · « **Reply #117 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 21:18:38 »

thanks for listening and putting up with me everyone

)

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #118 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 21:25:15 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Mon, 08 February 2016, 21:18:38

thanks for listening and putting up with me everyone )

Enjoy your hard work

redbanshee · « **Reply #119 on:** Tue, 23 February 2016, 18:06:25 »

Protip (after hours of work, even got out the multimeter!):

The split backspace's right most button is actually on the grid BEFORE the right alt on the bottom row! There is no 15th column! Its a part of the bottom row's row (k49).

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #120 on:** Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:52:41 »

Quote from: redbanshee on Tue, 23 February 2016, 18:06:25

Protip (after hours of work, even got out the multimeter!):

The split backspace's right most button is actually on the grid BEFORE the right alt on the bottom row! There is no 15th column! Its a part of the bottom row's row (k49).

Well played debugging that issue!... but, it is documented here in the HHKB layout

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/keyboard/gh60/keymap_common.h

redbanshee · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:55:07 »

Quote from: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:52:41

Quote from: redbanshee on Tue, 23 February 2016, 18:06:25
Protip (after hours of work, even got out the multimeter!):

The split backspace's right most button is actually on the grid BEFORE the right alt on the bottom row! There is no 15th column! Its a part of the bottom row's row (k49).

Well played debugging that issue!... but, it is documented here in the HHKB layout https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/keyboard/gh60/keymap_common.h

tofgerl · « **Reply #122 on:** Wed, 24 February 2016, 15:21:24 »

"Documenting" in .h-files is not documenting. It is commenting.

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #123 on:** Wed, 24 February 2016, 15:25:16 »

Quote from: tofgerl on Wed, 24 February 2016, 15:21:24

"Documenting" in .h-files is not documenting. It is commenting.

The .h-file is in 'My Documents'... so it's documented in the document.

KaLam1ty · « **Reply #124 on:** Thu, 25 February 2016, 10:07:34 »

Just an FYI, Easy AVR now has support for Satan GH60 if anyone wants to test it:
https://github.com/dhowland/EasyAVR/commit/73d1fd0b1f538e159293bed316af95a6ba9416f4
I will be giving it a run later tomorrow, too.

bonestamp · « **Reply #125 on:** Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:09:12 »

I have a poker compatible case (from massdrop). What screws/where do I get screws that are typically used for mounting the board to the case?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #126 on:** Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:15:22 »

Quote from: bonestamp on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:09:12

I have a poker compatible case (from massdrop). What screws/where do I get screws that are typically used for mounting the board to the case?

M2x4mm

tofgerl · « **Reply #127 on:** Tue, 01 March 2016, 04:50:41 »

I have M3 on the plastic cases and for some reason M2 on an aluminium case. Confusing.

Devost8r · « **Reply #128 on:** Tue, 01 March 2016, 08:02:48 »

At least it's up front with it. Most companies just hide his mark elsewhere in a corporate logo or something. It's all around you, every day, everywhere you go, and in everything you use.

bonestamp · « **Reply #129 on:** Tue, 01 March 2016, 23:55:46 »

Thanks guys, I'll get some M2s and M3s (just in case).

climbalima · « **Reply #130 on:** Sat, 05 March 2016, 14:50:55 »

ok so I skrewed up and dropped my pcb. The usb connector fell off. I saved it by soldering the pads directly to the usb hub. The keyboard works with the normal firmware, but when I try to reflash it the button disconnects the board from the computer, but the bootloader does not run. Any suggestions?

redbanshee · « **Reply #131 on:** Sat, 05 March 2016, 15:08:16 »

Quote from: climbalima on Sat, 05 March 2016, 14:50:55

ok so I skrewed up and dropped my pcb. The usb connector fell off. I saved it by soldering the pads directly to the usb hub. The keyboard works with the normal firmware, but when I try to reflash it the button disconnects the board from the computer, but the bootloader does not run. Any suggestions?

were you able to flash before or are you trying it for the first time?

climbalima · « **Reply #132 on:** Sat, 05 March 2016, 15:16:13 »

flashing for the first time.

redbanshee · « **Reply #133 on:** Sat, 05 March 2016, 15:21:31 »

First unplug and re-plug it in, then press the button, then once it disconnects you have to install the atmega32u4 drivers in the flip (if thats what your using) folder for windows to give you access to the chip

climbalima · « **Reply #134 on:** Sat, 05 March 2016, 19:05:34 »

I am having trouble with your steps because the board does not appear to be hotswappable

VentureG · « **Reply #135 on:** Thu, 31 March 2016, 20:05:35 »

Leaving my experience with firmware/flashing here: I tried to follow all of everyone's advice here but none of it seemed to work until the last page where redbanshee mentioned atmel flip. When in boot loader mode windows wasn't recognizing atmega32u4 correctly, installing the drivers worked!

I went back and tried tkg again with no luck. I was still stuck on Waiting for bootloader... So I used flip to flash my firmware. It worked! But the firmware built from tmk_keyboard/keyboard/gh60 bricked half the keys and the debounce time was very very weird.

Then I did another hour of looking around and found that EasyAVR had added support for the GH60 Satan! From there I was able to customize and build a new firmware build and flash it successfully using flip!

I now have a working keyboard(minus a full board of LEDs) and I'm pretty happy. Sorry for reviving an old thread but I was lost and I'm hoping this can help someone else.

Flip: http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx

EasyAVR: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Easy_AVR_USB_Keyboard_Firmware

HPE1000 · « **Reply #136 on:** Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:22:08 »

Quote from: VentureG on Thu, 31 March 2016, 20:05:35

Leaving my experience with firmware/flashing here: I tried to follow all of everyone's advice here but none of it seemed to work until the last page where redbanshee mentioned atmel flip. When in boot loader mode windows wasn't recognizing atmega32u4 correctly, installing the drivers worked!

I went back and tried tkg again with no luck. I was still stuck on Waiting for bootloader... So I used flip to flash my firmware. It worked! But the firmware built from tmk_keyboard/keyboard/gh60 bricked half the keys and the debounce time was very very weird.

Then I did another hour of looking around and found that EasyAVR had added support for the GH60 Satan! From there I was able to customize and build a new firmware build and flash it successfully using flip!

I now have a working keyboard(minus a full board of LEDs) and I'm pretty happy. Sorry for reviving an old thread but I was lost and I'm hoping this can help someone else.

Flip: http://www.atmel.com/tools/FLIP.aspx

EasyAVR: https://deskthority.net/wiki/Easy_AVR_USB_Keyboard_Firmware

So moistgun helped me with that same issue when using TGK. You have to put the board in bootloader, then launch the exe in the tool folder called zadig. Go to options, show all devices. Then choose this option

Then you do the setup.bat file

choose

2
N
1
1

then drag your keymap.eep file onto the reflash.bat file and follow directions

VentureG · « **Reply #137 on:** Thu, 31 March 2016, 23:06:47 »

Quote from: HPE1000 on Thu, 31 March 2016, 21:22:08

So moistgun helped me with that same issue when using TGK. You have to put the board in bootloader, then launch the exe in the tool folder called zadig. Go to options, show all devices. Then choose this option

Show Image

Then you do the setup.bat file

choose

2
N
1
1

then drag your keymap.eep file onto the reflash.bat file and follow directions

That got the tkg tool to work but flashing the .eep file generated by the tmk keymap generator bricked a few keys. I may be using a wrong build or something.

Things that I have tried after tkg starting working:
1. Flashing keymap.eep - debounce time got weird and couldn't type v, u or space and some other letters
2. Flashing the original .hex from the tkg repository, then flashing keymap.eep - the original .hex works but the keymap.eep does not!
3. Built the gh60 firmware on linux from tmk and tried flashing that using tkg same issue as number 1

Maybe I got a weird version of the pcb. I'm perfectly happy using easyAVR's keymap as my firmware but the only thing I'd like are for my LED modes to work.

Moistgun · « **Reply #138 on:** Fri, 01 April 2016, 08:55:21 »

VentureG, Would you mind sharing your keyboard layout editor data, or the pre-compiled http://www.enjoyclick.org/tkg/ page filled in with that raw data? y not both?

Just want to check to make sure something isn't missed.

VentureG · « **Reply #139 on:** Fri, 01 April 2016, 09:32:53 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Fri, 01 April 2016, 08:55:21

VentureG, Would you mind sharing your keyboard layout editor data, or the pre-compiled http://www.enjoyclick.org/tkg/ page filled in with that raw data? y not both?

Just want to check to make sure something isn't missed.

Layer 0: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=Esc&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=Backspace%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&=Q&=W&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&=A&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&=%22%0A'&_w:2.25%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:2.25%3B&=LShift&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_w:1.75%3B&=RShift&=Fn0%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=LCtrl&_w:1.25%3B&=LWin&_w:1.25%3B&=LAlt&_w:6.25%3B&=Space&_w:1.25%3B&=RAlt&_w:1.25%3B&=RWin&_w:1.25%3B&=App&_w:1.25%3B&=RCtrl4

Layer 1: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@=~%0A%60&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_w:2%3B&=Delete%3B&@_w:1.5%3B&=Tab&=Q&=%E2%86%91&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&_a:7%3B&=&_a:4%3B&=Ins&=Home&=PgUp&_w:1.5%3B&=Fn1%3B&@_w:1.75%3B&=Caps%20Lock&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92&_a:7%3B&=&=&=&=&_a:4%3B&=K&=Del&=End&=PgDn&_w:2.25%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:2.25%3B&=Shift&=Fn5&=Fn6&=Fn7&=Fn8&_a:7%3B&=&=&_a:4%3B&=Mute&=VolDn&=VolUp&=Fn2&_w:1.75%3B&=Shift&=Fn0%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=LCtrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:6.25%3B&=Fn4&_w:1.25%3B&=RAlt&_w:1.25%3B&=RWin&_w:1.25%3B&=App&_w:1.25%3B&=RCtrl

Not sure if there's an option on the tmk tool to permalink to my options.

Moistgun · « **Reply #140 on:** Fri, 01 April 2016, 09:46:53 »

If you are sure you have updated the zadig.exe file, try to run the setup.bat file,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u3z0hort88nkysm/keymap%20%282%29.eep?dl=0
(should start with backlighting on, and you can toggle off)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/omcguvvaaq3xtwk/keymap%20%283%29.eep?dl=0
(should start with backlighting off, and you can toggle on)

Drag and drop one of these keymap.eep to the reflash, and see if that fixed it?

worse case is you have to stick to easyAVR

VentureG · « **Reply #141 on:** Fri, 01 April 2016, 16:28:39 »

Yeah neither of those seem to do it.

I tried reflashing on the original gh60-revchn.hex which works, then flashing the keymap. Same result. I'm a bit confused honestly haha.

Thanks for tryin for me tho. I'll probably try flashing qmk on and seeing if that does anything for me

hargon · « **Reply #142 on:** Mon, 04 April 2016, 11:42:08 »

Hi Guys, I have a Satan GH60 I am not able to reflash. My tact switch is not working. Any hints, where Fn and Pause are in the "stock" layout. I have an ISO (bottom row 1.5 1 1.5 7 1.5 1 1.5) soldered onto it.
Maybe you can speed up the process by giving me the hint.

Moistgun · « **Reply #143 on:** Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:15:53 »

Quote from: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 07 February 2016, 06:34:43

Hmmm, I don't remember the stock layout.

http://www.keyboardtester.com

Go this site, hold your function key and test until you find it.

hargon · « **Reply #144 on:** Mon, 04 April 2016, 14:34:33 »

First, I need to have\find the function key 🙈 or maybe even de- and resolder to actually get one!?

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #145 on:** Mon, 04 April 2016, 15:39:27 »

Quote from: hargon on Mon, 04 April 2016, 14:34:33

First, I need to have\find the function key 🙈 or maybe even de- amd resolder to actualy get one!?

It's the key to the right of the short right shift. Like the Fn key on a HHKB. You can short it with wire/tweezers, no need to desolder.

hargon · « **Reply #146 on:** Mon, 04 April 2016, 16:34:01 »

Thank you. Still, I did not get a Fn response so far. I will try again tomorrow.

Edit: I gave it another shot. The rightmost key ind row 2 (leftmost if the board is fliped around) does not change anything, triggers nothing. But briding works, since i can bridge the unused Shift or Control keys and get the expected results. I am kind of stuck now, honestly.

odd · « **Reply #147 on:** Wed, 06 April 2016, 19:35:01 »

Quote from: bonestamp on Tue, 01 March 2016, 01:09:12

I have a poker compatible case (from massdrop). What screws/where do I get screws that are typically used for mounting the board to the case?

I'm building one tonight so I would be happy to test it.

odd · « **Reply #148 on:** Wed, 06 April 2016, 19:38:38 »

Quote from: HPE1000 on Tue, 19 January 2016, 10:22:05

Are these pcbs pretty reliable? I just need a pcb to replace my broken poker 2 pcb and I don't care for programmability.

http://tinyurl.com/gofwn78

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #149 on:** Thu, 07 April 2016, 06:30:24 »

Quote from: hargon on Mon, 04 April 2016, 16:34:01

Thank you. Still, I did not get a Fn response so far. I will try again tomorrow.

Edit: I gave it another shot. The rightmost key ind row 2 (leftmost if the board is fliped around) does not change anything, triggers nothing. But briding works, since i can bridge the unused Shift or Control keys and get the expected results. I am kind of stuck now, honestly.

Can you tell us exactly what you are doing, step by step, so we can help?

Which buttons are you holding down, what order are you pressing them in?

From memory it should be something like this: hold lshift + rshift (magic key combo), hold function + 'i' key (for insert). So 4 keys held in total. Repeat that process changing the 'i' key until you find the only which is mapped to 'insert' on the function layer.

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