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When it comes to soldering what type of solder is recommended? Also what wattage iron?!

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Shipping confirmation received! Can't wait. ;D
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Update for Int'l orders (excluding USA). Please read.

Welp, I really tried my best. :( But I didn't get through shipping all the Canada Post Int'l orders before the Canada Post strike that's happening July 2nd. ~25 Int'l orders were dropped off at Canada Post today, those should still go out and leave Canada before July 1st (national holiday). Quick review shows ~20 or so currently affected orders that will be delayed due to the strike. If you had chosen the $10-12 shipping option via "Canada Post Int'l 6-10 business days" and would like to arrange for DHL shipping instead, please contact me via email or PM with your order #.

Items being shipped via DHL will still continue, should be able to wrap up all the orders by the end of the week. Currently bagging/boxing orders in the 40xx range.


For those curious, Zealio preorders were in the 35xx-42xx range.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #203 on: Wed, 29 June 2016, 19:46:02 »
Just received my order. Thanks Henry!

FYI I was in the 39xx range

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #204 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 05:08:31 »
I'm 4091 so looks like should be soon then. Still showing unfulfilled.

Better get my soldering iron out and desolder this board.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #205 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 08:38:22 »
Do all orders get a shipping notification or only DHL orders. I don't think I will upgrade to the more expensive shipping anyways tough because my board won't get here for at least another month (zz96) so no hurry for my zealios to show up :)

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #206 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:34:31 »
Do all orders get a shipping notification or only DHL orders. I don't think I will upgrade to the more expensive shipping anyways tough because my board won't get here for at least another month (zz96) so no hurry for my zealios to show up :)

Every order that's done packing will get a shipping notification once the label is printed. Of course, due to the strike, I won't be printing a label for these select orders until Canada Post has confirmed that the strike has ended. 
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #207 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 13:57:47 »
They have arrived! Thanks Zeal for making this such a smooth gb experience!! They even feel amazing out of PCB. Can't wait for my Sentraq S60 to come from Massdrop.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #208 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 18:00:37 »
I got mine as well, thanks Zeal!   Waiting for one more group buy, then I can make my 60% board!  ;D
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #209 on: Thu, 30 June 2016, 18:03:53 »
Finished shipping everything today. Everything shipped in under a week. Feelsgood.jpg.

Will be keeping an eye on Canada post strike situation. Once it's over, I'll print the labels for the remaining 22x orders and have those dropped off at my post office ASAP. Thanks for tuning in guys.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #210 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 02:51:54 »
That is fast... Did you kidnap a kindergarten class or something? Borrow santa's elfs?

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #211 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 03:46:17 »
Got my keys today. Again, super fast and hassle-free! Thanks Zeal!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #212 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 04:41:16 »
Got my order yesterday. Thank you once again for a perfectly executed GB.

Also ordered V3 lube for tactile switches. Can be used for both springs and stems, correct?

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #213 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 05:51:06 »
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #214 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:36:11 »
Got my shipping info (3x AND a text message  :)) ) late last night and it's scheduled for delivery today.  Color me impressed.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #215 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:37:37 »
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).
Got mine in Sweden yesterday. Got it less than a week after it got sent out.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #216 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 09:07:43 »
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).
Got mine in Sweden yesterday. Got it less than a week after it got sent out.

Great, might get it after the weekend then. Thanks.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #217 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 18:24:26 »
That is fast... Did you kidnap a kindergarten class or something? Borrow santa's elfs?

I was pumping out pretty much 100-150x boxes a day... Everyday looked like this for DHL when my driver came to pickup.


Got my keys today. Again, super fast and hassle-free! Thanks Zeal!  :thumb:

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Got my order yesterday. Thank you once again for a perfectly executed GB.

Also ordered V3 lube for tactile switches. Can be used for both springs and stems, correct?

Thanks for participating in all 3 rounds (I believe?) :) Good to hear there weren't any delays with the new Canada Post Int'l labels...They just recently redesigned it mid-June and the font chosen for addresses were smaller than previous, and weren't as thermal printer friendly (thickness issues with legends).

Yes, use the thick lube for the switch bottom, spring, and stem. Lube in that order.

Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).

Depends on country. I've had a customer in Germany report 4 day delivery from Canada, but it probably just boarded the plane at the right time. :P Int'l items generally take 6-10 business days, but can take a bit longer depending on your postal service. Longest would probably take a month.

Got my shipping info (3x AND a text message  :)) ) late last night and it's scheduled for delivery today.  Color me impressed.


Shopify, Paypal, DHL notification + DHL delivery text :)) DHL Express is great, love the overnight shipments from Can->USA and vice versa.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #218 on: Sat, 02 July 2016, 00:12:36 »
Thank you zeal for trying to make sure all the switches arrives before the strike! I got mine on Wednesday, but I wasn't there to receive it, so it's just sitting at the post office waiting to be picked up. Grrr why did I decide to travel at this time.... Can't wait till I am back to pick up it on Monday!!
                                           
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #219 on: Sat, 02 July 2016, 03:26:49 »
got my 78g zealios today, snipped all the little PCB mount pegs off, and popped 'em on my teamwolf board.  they're sweet!  feels really nice.  the refined MX switch experience. thanks zeal!!

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #220 on: Sat, 02 July 2016, 10:29:18 »
I spent at least four seconds picturing a teenwolf board. I'm a little sad it doesn't exist now...

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #221 on: Sat, 02 July 2016, 11:29:02 »
Feelios arrived yesterday. Canada -> Germany 4 days. Thanks a lot.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #222 on: Sat, 02 July 2016, 12:15:22 »
Interested in getting a pair of zealios 78g, or cherry mx clears to put on the red scarf from mass drop. Did R3 fix the SA keycap issues (wobble)? I am very interested in purchasing them, however, if I am about to spend $300 on a keyboard, I'd prefer not limiting myself on which keycaps I can put on. This will likely be my first (and hopefully) last keyboard.

Thanks for the input.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #223 on: Sun, 03 July 2016, 05:02:24 »
All of the items from order #4094 have now been shipped

Sun,  3 Jul 2016 06:22:27 +0000 (UTC)
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A small trip over the atlantic ocean, and it should be here.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #224 on: Mon, 04 July 2016, 03:48:18 »
Interested in getting a pair of zealios 78g, or cherry mx clears to put on the red scarf from mass drop. Did R3 fix the SA keycap issues (wobble)? I am very interested in purchasing them, however, if I am about to spend $300 on a keyboard, I'd prefer not limiting myself on which keycaps I can put on. This will likely be my first (and hopefully) last keyboard.

Thanks for the input.

Don't think that specific issue has been addressed yet, but I am also not sure how severe it is. I did read some people having that problem with on /r/MK with R2 zealios and R3 are the same and I swear that I saw zeal saying that it is something he is working on for R4.


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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
« Reply #225 on: Mon, 04 July 2016, 03:53:40 »
Got my switches today. They look great. Now I can finally start my second build which has been almost exactly one year in the making. I can't wait to see how they feel, and I hope it all comes together well.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #226 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 08:43:13 »
Got my Zealios on a SUNDAY?!  First time I've had good service out of DHL!  Ordered 62g and 67g because I wasn't sure which ones I'd like.  Definitely like the 62g better!  Time to build a board!  Thanks, Henry!
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #227 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 10:40:39 »
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.

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« Reply #228 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 10:53:27 »
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.
It's almost the opposite here in the US.  Domestic DHL is garbage.  US Postal Service is maybe one step up.  UPS is 50/50 depending on your region and your proximity to one of their major hubs.  FedEx is premium and their prices reflect it.

It seems international DHL is a different level of service than we usually get from them.  I have never have a package arrive less than 18 hours from when it shipped unless it was coming from the next town over.  :P  I know DHL is considered much better in other parts of the world.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #229 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:35:27 »
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.

Like data said, DHL is terrible for me in the South (Mississippi).  USPS is hit or miss but lately I've had really good service from them.  USPS used to always be 1-3 days later than their estimated ship date, now it's almost always on time or just a day late.  UPS almost always delivers my amazon Prime packages, which are always on time (2 days).  I think amazon really cracks the whip on their prime shippers, though, because they guarantee ship dates.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #230 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:44:18 »
I know the local FedEx isn't really FedEx, but just do jobs for them, while DHL is actually a separate company with their own drivers and vans. That makes a difference.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #231 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:50:33 »
Got my Zealios on a SUNDAY?!  First time I've had good service out of DHL!  Ordered 62g and 67g because I wasn't sure which ones I'd like.  Definitely like the 62g better!  Time to build a board!  Thanks, Henry!

Not too sure which order yours is, but from what I know, DHL USA doesn't delivery on Sat/Sun :P But then again, it was Canada day on Friday, so my last batch of shipments was Thursday, which meant most USA shipments should've been delivered on Friday, unless your address was a remote area which required a forwarded delivery.

Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.
It's almost the opposite here in the US.  Domestic DHL is garbage.  US Postal Service is maybe one step up.  UPS is 50/50 depending on your region and your proximity to one of their major hubs.  FedEx is premium and their prices reflect it.

It seems international DHL is a different level of service than we usually get from them.  I have never have a package arrive less than 18 hours from when it shipped unless it was coming from the next town over.  :P  I know DHL is considered much better in other parts of the world.


DHL Express =/= DHL eCommerce which is what Massdrop uses...Whole different division and warehouse/drivers/planes etc.

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« Reply #232 on: Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:57:39 »
Yeah, I get all my Massdrop stuff in the normal post. I'm talking about Express.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #233 on: Wed, 06 July 2016, 08:31:59 »
Thanks for your hard work getting the switches sent so quickly Zeal. Got my 62g switches yesterday so it only took 5 working days, pretty much what I'd expect for a domestic shipment lol. They're definitely better than any Cherry switches I've tried, but I do wish I did more research before ordering. 62g is pretty light, especially for the spacebar, so I should've really gotten the 78g versions instead.

Just to chime in on the DHL discussion... I'm also from Norway, but I have a completely different impression of them. The Web is chock-full of horror stories about people getting ridiculous, unexplainable fees from them, which usually end up being 'errors' if you call them (but no knowing how many people just pay them). It's also a pain in the ass that they won't deliver to the post office, and instead call you for directions so they can deliver at your home/work, which is really a weird arrangement considering Norway is one of the countries with the lowest population density in the world.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #234 on: Wed, 06 July 2016, 08:38:11 »
Ordered leftovers yesterday! Zealios hands down best switch so far!

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #235 on: Sun, 10 July 2016, 03:39:14 »
So just to add perspective to any newbies who aren't smoldering masters and worries about deforming the clear switches and chattering etc.

I did my whole board yesterday and had no problem soldering any switches and have zero chattering.

Used a hot iron at about 375 and each point took about a second. Simple stuff.

They are nice quality, definitely feel different from any other gat or cherry, the drop-off Is so pronounced it's closer to topre (67s). 78s on the big keys.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #236 on: Wed, 13 July 2016, 08:12:50 »
Everything arrived long ago, but just got done unpacking it. Got any tip on which lube (Thin or Thick) to use for Topre Sliders?

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #237 on: Wed, 13 July 2016, 13:28:12 »
Everything arrived long ago, but just got done unpacking it. Got any tip on which lube (Thin or Thick) to use for Topre Sliders?

Always thick for Topre.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #238 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 08:54:15 »
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #239 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 13:19:46 »
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)

August, with 3 other new products to be released concurrently.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #240 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 17:26:06 »
Wow I didn't realize it was so close! Really excited for this round!

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« Reply #241 on: Sat, 16 July 2016, 20:00:51 »
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)

August, with 3 other new products to be released concurrently.

If the clear stabs are part of this I will be super impressed, and I'm already somewhat of a Zealios evangelist. :P

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« Reply #242 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 09:03:29 »
Or just invisible switches. Why go half way, right?

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« Reply #243 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 11:07:06 »
Or just invisible switches. Why go half way, right?
Why stop there? Physical inputs are obsolete. Let's go full-on mind control. Zeal is the hero Gotham deserves.

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #244 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 11:47:15 »
I'm sooo ready to jack in!

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #245 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 13:23:24 »
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #246 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 18:55:38 »
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB. Trust me, there won't be any clearance issues. :)

Clicky Zealios are still on my mind, and am still pushing and hoping it'll be made one day.
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #247 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 20:00:11 »
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB.

Is there an information post about that anywhere? Is that one of the new products on the august time table?

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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #248 on: Sun, 17 July 2016, 20:57:34 »
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB.

Is there an information post about that anywhere? Is that one of the new products on the august time table?

No information is publicly revealed as of yet. Will release prototype pictures before the end of the month. :)
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Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
« Reply #249 on: Mon, 18 July 2016, 12:30:36 »
So, has the chatter issue that affected some of R1 been completely fixed? Reason I'm asking is I've got a sneaking feeling some of my switches are chattering, but it's been bloody hard to test as I can literally write for hours before it happens, but sometimes I get two 'a's or a double space when  it feels like I shouldn't have. I'm not 100% sure though, since it happens so rarely and I'm not all that precise of a typist anyhow.

I've been testing using the Elitekeyboard Switch Hitter tool, but it's pretty weird. Having the chatter threshold between 8 and 30 ms, it takes literally thousands of key presses before I get a possible chatter detection (my fingers hurt atm from spamming single keys lol). However, if I press my palms over big parts of the keyboard and press repeatedly, I get way more detections (spread over many keys, which I can't reproduce later most of the time, and I also get these sorts of detections on my trusty Topre board, which I understand don't suffer from chattering issues at all, albeit to a lesser degree). I've been trying two Phantom firmware versions, which are all 6KRO.

This was my first time soldering, and I used a cheapo, non-adjustable Ersa 230V/30W iron with a temp of 380C. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job, but I thought I was pretty quick on the switches near the end, and the ones I'm most suspicious of (A and space) are among the cleanest jobs I did, probably only spending 3-5 sec on them. In comparison I spent a ton of time on the Caps switch (easily 50-100 times more time in contact with iron than the other switches) with some sloppy desoldering, and that one has no chatter at all. I can provide some pictures if necessary.

I assume if the Zealio chatter issue is a thing of the past, then Strict's fix doesn't apply to my situation. Any idea what my next step should be?