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Hey guys,

The highly anticipated R4 Zealio GB & newly released products are now live on my site!

Click the images for links to the site!

R4 Zealio Switches: 78g weight updated, force curve now more uniform.


Zeal60 RGB LED PCB [Limited to 100x units first runSold Out]:


Zeal Transparent Stabilizers:


Zealencio Silencing Clips:



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Zeal60 Firmware download: https://zealpc.net/blogs/news/programming-your-zeal60-rgb-pcb

Reserved for updates.

October 4, 2016:
Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.


Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

Oct 8, 2016
Prototypes getting sent to me very soon.


Oct 20, 2016
Zealios are expected to ship out from Gateron to me on November 15. Zealencios and Transparent Stabilizers will ship out November 21, both via DHL Express.

Oct 24, 2016
Zeal60 Prototype received


Oct 31, 2016
Zeal60 built up
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84248.msg2293566#msg2293566

Nov 16, 2016
First half of shipment is picked up,


Dec 24, 2016
All non-PCB orders shipped

Jan 3, 2017
All PCB orders shipped. GB complete (minus a few orders combining with Lustro/Weaven)
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so the topside of the pcb has smd leds? Sorry if I'm out of the loop on it.

Grabbing some of all of this no matter what  :thumb:

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Just ordered 70 62g switches and some of those sexy stabilizers.

Think I'll make a GH 60 board with them :D have a new plate I can use too
   
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Are the stab plastics compatible with SPRiT's wires (this would solve the 7u vs 6,25u problem for me since I still have wires)?

Either way, I'll definitely need stabs, so I'll order those early and push in a few switches next month, that way I'll have the early shipping even though I have to wait for money :)

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Picked up some 67g for a ps2avr build that's coming up, great timing. Although I'd also love to grab the Zeal60 board, I just picked up the sentraq s60 and theres a KB V60 on eBay going cheap with MX Clears, then of course the Minivan...  :-[

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Zeal, how would one remove the silencing clips if it needed to be removed (change leds, fix switch, etc.)?

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have 78g's...have 67g's...now ordered 65's and enough silencing clips to cover many boards to come. Its been a very zealio christmas all year :thumb:
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Any chance we can get a 2u only option for the stabilizers?  Like maybe a 4-pack?  I'd like to buy a set for VE.A or maybe Ergodox and have no need for a 6.25u or 7u wire.  It would be nice for number pads too...

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?

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can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?

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Need to get this stuff.

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Those stabs are so sexy.

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Already ordered, just posting for easy updates.

This gonna be some good ****, though =)

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

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so the topside of the pcb has smd leds? Sorry if I'm out of the loop on it.

Grabbing some of all of this no matter what  :thumb:

No, the LEDs are installed on the back. PCB has holes to accommodate the LEDs shooting upwards into the switch. This prevents interference issues and doesn't require SMD compatible switch bottoms.

Are the stab plastics compatible with SPRiT's wires (this would solve the 7u vs 6,25u problem for me since I still have wires)?

Either way, I'll definitely need stabs, so I'll order those early and push in a few switches next month, that way I'll have the early shipping even though I have to wait for money :)
Standard 1.6mm diameter wires will work, so yes.

Zeal, how would one remove the silencing clips if it needed to be removed (change leds, fix switch, etc.)?

There will be small notch on the left and right side of the clips for you to push open, similar to opening switch tops. Just a small flat head or wedge tool will work.

Any chance we can get a 2u only option for the stabilizers?  Like maybe a 4-pack?  I'd like to buy a set for VE.A or maybe Ergodox and have no need for a 6.25u or 7u wire.  It would be nice for number pads too...


During the GB stage, only the shown 3 stabilizer packs will be offered to help with spacebar stabilizer MOQs. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?

They are thinner than orings, but help reduce bottom out and upstroke sound (orings don't reduce the upstroke). Check the product page for a typing video demonstration on how much the switches are silenced by.

can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?

They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.
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can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?
They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.

Do the text in gold or something to sginify the first run  :p :cool:

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can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?

They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.

Cool. I was thinking maybe a 24k gold plaque with a REV.0 Engraving.. maybe the 0 could be a 1 carat diamond. just kidding ;)

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can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?
They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.

Do the text in gold or something to sginify the first run  :p :cool:

The golden/yellow parts you see on the PCB will reflect the actual look. :) Zeal60 and the golden Zealio switch will be on both sides of the PCB.

can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?

They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.

Cool. I was thinking maybe a 24k gold plaque with a REV.0 Engraving.. maybe the 0 could be a 1 carat diamond. just kidding ;)

Uh.....sure. Just pay for the diamond. :D
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No, the LEDs are installed on the back. PCB has holes to accommodate the LEDs shooting upwards into the switch. This prevents interference issues and doesn't require SMD compatible switch bottoms.

What? I thought LEDs are installed like usual, on the top of the switch. Any pictures you can show us?
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No, the LEDs are installed on the back. PCB has holes to accommodate the LEDs shooting upwards into the switch. This prevents interference issues and doesn't require SMD compatible switch bottoms.

What? I thought LEDs are installed like usual, on the top of the switch. Any pictures you can show us?

Will have to keep the back side of the PCB private for now. Just know that it uses a special type of SMD LED and lights the switch from below. There is no through hole LEDs required/support for the Zeal60.
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Will have to keep the back side of the PCB private for now. Just know that it uses a special type of SMD LED and lights the switch from below. There is no through hole LEDs required/support for the Zeal60.

So, if I understand correctly, the LEDs will be presoldered, and we don't need the "4 pin RGB LED" from your other group buy, right?
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can all of these items be ordered and shipped together and does the pcb have some sort of first-run marking?
They'll all be shipped together. "Rev 0" will be the first run marking, unless there's something else people wanted to see...Trying not to clutter the PCB with text.

Do the text in gold or something to sginify the first run  :p :cool:

The golden/yellow parts you see on the PCB will reflect the actual look. :) Zeal60 and the golden Zealio switch will be on both sides of the PCB.

Infinity symbol instead of 0?  :cool: :p

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Glad to see rounds and rounds of these Zealios still going :D

I have a question about the stabs, are they compatible with pretty much every plate/PCB combination, i.e. a Lightsaver?
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Any chance we can get a 2u only option for the stabilizers?  Like maybe a 4-pack?  I'd like to buy a set for VE.A or maybe Ergodox and have no need for a 6.25u or 7u wire.  It would be nice for number pads too...


During the GB stage, only the shown 3 stabilizer packs will be offered to help with spacebar stabilizer MOQs. Sorry for the inconvenience.


I guess I'll wait then?   :-[

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Will have to keep the back side of the PCB private for now. Just know that it uses a special type of SMD LED and lights the switch from below. There is no through hole LEDs required/support for the Zeal60.

So, if I understand correctly, the LEDs will be presoldered, and we don't need the "4 pin RGB LED" from your other group buy, right?

That's correct. The 4-pin RGB LEDs are mostly for those that want to tinker and make their own 4 pin RGB supported PCBs, or attempt at hand wiring, etc.

Glad to see rounds and rounds of these Zealios still going :D

I have a question about the stabs, are they compatible with pretty much every plate/PCB combination, i.e. a Lightsaver?

Yes, my stabilizers are compatible with pretty much every plate/PCB that uses regular Cherry PCB mount stabs.
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No, the LEDs are installed on the back. PCB has holes to accommodate the LEDs shooting upwards into the switch. This prevents interference issues and doesn't require SMD compatible switch bottoms.

What? I thought LEDs are installed like usual, on the top of the switch. Any pictures you can show us?

If I understand correctly, it's going to be something like this:

The Ducky One RGB, Pok3r RGB and Masterkeys RGB have SMD's soldered like this too. It's a cool way to solve two problems, one of which being compatible switches (which isn't a problem for those makers, obviously) but also in the event of an LED failure you don't have to remove the switch to solder in a replacement. And from a production standpoint, having all the wave soldering happen in one pass is surely a large benefit as well.

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Which layouta support the pcb? Hoping for apot space..
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Which layouta support the pcb? Hoping for apot space..

Zeal60 supports: ANSI, ISO, HHKB, Winkey & Winkeyless layouts. No split space for this round.
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Has anything been done to improve key wobble present in past rounds?
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Has anything been done to improve key wobble present in past rounds?

Stem mould is being tweaked to reduce wobble, and will be ready for the R4 production.
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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

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How do your stabilisers compare to the SPRiT 24k ones?

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Will there be an R2 on the pcb? I was about to order one but it's already sold out  :(

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Will there be an R2 on the pcb? I was about to order one but it's already sold out  :(
I saw on the /r/mk thread that there's going to be one next year some time hopefully!

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Pretty stoked to have snagged a Zeal60.

Now to figure out what to do with it.

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

Stickers don't reduce noise they reduce switch top wobble??

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Oh no, the Zeal60 is gone already! Shucks.

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

Stickers don't reduce noise they reduce switch top wobble??
Sorry not stickers, I meant the foam ones that sit on top of the switch, can't remember what they're called. I always just called them stickers

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

Stickers don't reduce noise they reduce switch top wobble??
Sorry not stickers, I meant the foam ones that sit on top of the switch, can't remember what they're called. I always just called them stickers

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Never seen ones for the top of the switch besides these and the GMK versions. Might have to look around to find those.

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Cool, just ordered 30 62g switches and some LEDs.  hopefully I get them around the same time as my smart pad.

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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

Stickers don't reduce noise they reduce switch top wobble??
Sorry not stickers, I meant the foam ones that sit on top of the switch, can't remember what they're called. I always just called them stickers

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Never seen ones for the top of the switch besides these and the GMK versions. Might have to look around to find those.

I don't think he means clips, just the foam landing pads that EK used to sell: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads&pid=sl120_cs
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Regarding the silencing clips; I think I must have an incorrect mental picture of what is going on here. Are these in place of using o-rings?
More in place of stickers. But they achieve the same thing just feel slightly different

Thanks for setting me straight. That makes a lot more sense than the frankenswitch I was mentally constructing to accommodate this.

Stickers don't reduce noise they reduce switch top wobble??
Sorry not stickers, I meant the foam ones that sit on top of the switch, can't remember what they're called. I always just called them stickers

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Never seen ones for the top of the switch besides these and the GMK versions. Might have to look around to find those.

I don't think he means clips, just the foam landing pads that EK used to sell: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads&pid=sl120_cs
Yup that's them.

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damn! pcb sold out!!

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Any idea when the firmware for the Zeal60 will become available?  Was thinking if it's TMK it shouldn't be too hard to get a QMK port going.

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damn! pcb sold out!!

Yeah..those went quick. 36hrs iic.

Any idea when the firmware for the Zeal60 will become available?  Was thinking if it's TMK it shouldn't be too hard to get a QMK port going.

We'll release it when it's ready, definitely before the board ships.
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