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Re: 黑金
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 20:38:50 »
that pcb looks sick  ^-^ ^-^

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 20:56:30 »
 ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 20:57:37 »
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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 20:57:52 »


splo :eek: osh

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 21:37:32 »
If that fits the m65-a.... :eek: :eek: :eek: *looks into piggy bank*

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 21:56:36 »
If that fits the m65-a.... :eek: :eek: :eek: *looks into piggy bank*

I'm guessing with the usb placement it might not work with the m65 without modificationp

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 21:58:18 »
If that fits the m65-a.... :eek: :eek: :eek: *looks into piggy bank*

I'm guessing with the usb placement it might not work with the m65 without modificationp

Ah welp it's at the center - just realized that :(

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 22:10:42 »
I think that's the best looking PCB ever.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 01 April 2017, 22:11:31 »
Nice.

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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 00:44:21 »
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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 00:45:46 »
bone cone
I generally hate all keycaps. Keycaps are for poofs. Real men touchtype on stems. Non-functional artisans are awesome, I use them for the ESC key ... escape is for cowards anyways, real men go frontal assault.

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 01:10:51 »
really nice pcb, any chance making pcb for tlk board?

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 02:18:09 »
Pretty!

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 02:37:01 »
really nice pcb, any chance making pcb for tkl board?

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 03:23:55 »
really nice pcb, any chance making pcb for tkl board?

There will be a TKL RGB board in the future, but it's unlikely it'll be compatible with pre-existing TKLs.
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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 03:29:19 »
Fixed 1.5+1.5+7+1.5+1.5 bottom row? =(

Looks awesome other than than that =P

I'm quite curious what cases it will fit into/how the accompanying case will look like.
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Re: 黑金
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 04:02:16 »
So black soldermask and exclude traces from it completely?  :confused: Looks sick, though I guess it's easier for beginners to mess it up unless there is a secondary clear soldermask layer present.

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 06:11:52 »
Is the one where the case doesn't support ISO? The PCB does but the case doesn't? That being the situation, would a custom case need to be designed for an ISO board using this PCB?

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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 10:11:54 »
Fixed 1.5+1.5+7+1.5+1.5 bottom row? =(

Thanks for pointing that out I was to busy getting things in order to be ready to make the purchase.


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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 12:56:11 »
So black soldermask and exclude traces from it completely?  :confused: Looks sick, though I guess it's easier for beginners to mess it up unless there is a secondary clear soldermask layer present.
That would be irresponsible of us to do so. No, the traces are covered but your second guess isn't quite right.

Is the one where the case doesn't support ISO? The PCB does but the case doesn't? That being the situation, would a custom case need to be designed for an ISO board using this PCB?
The upcoming case will be WKL ANSI only, with support for hhkb layout. PCB supports ISO and we may sell a "regular" purple version with multi layout support with left or centered USB option.

Fixed 1.5+1.5+7+1.5+1.5 bottom row? =(

Aesthetics choice due to case design.
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 17:03:32 »
This could actually be compatible with the EXENT  :eek:
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 17:06:04 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 17:17:48 »
I hate the win key, but really don't like winkeyless boards. Also I play a lot of games and a pinky control key crucial.


Basically I'm not as hyped.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 18:13:11 »
Is it hard gold plated?

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 22:58:32 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

Ctrl + Esc = winkey

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:47:52 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

Ctrl + Esc = winkey

I guess that wouldn't be too bad on a 65% since you have arrow keys, but it's still awkward.  I want to move my window to the left half of my screen.  Ctrl + Escape + arrow left.  I want to open a file on my computer... Ctrl + Esc + E... ew... two hands now.  The win key has so many handy shortcuts.  Open any app on your taskbar... win + position, so first app is win + 1, second is win + 2.  Super handy stuff.
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Re: 黑金
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 01:39:25 »
Hell ****ing yes please!
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Re: 黑金
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 05:34:25 »
So black soldermask and exclude traces from it completely?  :confused: Looks sick, though I guess it's easier for beginners to mess it up unless there is a secondary clear soldermask layer present.
That would be irresponsible of us to do so. No, the traces area covered but your second guess isn't quite right.
I had a better look at the drills and I think I know what is going on here. Didn't know there were manufacturers doing this sort of things.  :-X

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 11:48:21 »
So black soldermask and exclude traces from it completely?  :confused: Looks sick, though I guess it's easier for beginners to mess it up unless there is a secondary clear soldermask layer present.
That would be irresponsible of us to do so. No, the traces area covered but your second guess isn't quite right.
I had a better look at the drills and I think I know what is going on here. Didn't know there were manufacturers doing this sort of things.  :-X

There aren't...this was fully custom down to the material.
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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 14:46:22 »
Hey zeal which case does this pcb fits if the usb port is in the middle
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 16:12:02 »
I have no desire for a 65% board, but just have to say that this thing is GORGEOUS.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 16:13:22 »
Hey zeal which case does this board fits if the usb port is in the middle

His upcoming case, and other 65% cases with centered USB ports (currently none).

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:09:21 »
Hey zeal which case does this board fits if the usb port is in the middle

His upcoming case, and other 65% cases with centered USB ports (currently none).
oh oh oh, Zeal 65% case?

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Re: 黑金
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:24:23 »
Hey zeal which case does this board fits if the usb port is in the middle

His upcoming case, and other 65% cases with centered USB ports (currently none).
oh oh oh, Zeal 65% case?

This?

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:49:26 »
Zeal should make a rgb pcb like this with usb ports in the middle for 60% case like duck eagle/viper

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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:58:07 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?
Put capslock under the fn layer, move ctrl or windows key to where capslock is. Remap bottom row appropriately.
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Re: 黑金
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 04 April 2017, 07:22:41 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?
Put capslock under the fn layer, move ctrl or windows key to where capslock is. Remap bottom row appropriately.

I heavily rely on caps lock as my function key :(

Maybe I could make tab into a tap for tab and hold for Windows though
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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 16 June 2017, 08:33:14 »
Noooooo:c why it don't support m65a;_>;
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 00:21:29 »
So will there definitively not be a win key? Or is that specific to this black gold version? Because I'm super looking forward to a nice rgb 65, but that would totally ruin this one for me.

I'm sure it would look great, but I also wanna be productive on my keyboard and there are way too many winkey keyboard shortcuts that I use all the time like win+r / win+e / win+s / win+m.

Unrelated: wonder if this would fit in exent.

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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:30:06 »
So will there definitively not be a win key? Or is that specific to this black gold version? Because I'm super looking forward to a nice rgb 65, but that would totally ruin this one for me.

I'm sure it would look great, but I also wanna be productive on my keyboard and there are way too many winkey keyboard shortcuts that I use all the time like win+r / win+e / win+s / win+m.

Unrelated: wonder if this would fit in exent.

Black gold version Zeal65 PCB won't have a winkey for aesthetic reasons.
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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 14:07:32 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

The only time I've ever used that key on any OS is to get into process monitor and force a frozen or sluggish app to exit. I would happily not have winkeys, winkeyless cases with blockers usually look prettier.
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 14:14:36 »
The upcoming case...

Was there a tease for this somewhere? and more importantly: can you reveal if this will be fixed profile? I'm looking for a wkl design that can be used at 0, maybe even negative angle for more wrist comfort.

Also, re the PCB - could it be supplied with factory fitted Gold Holtites?

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:05:22 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

The only time I've ever used that key on any OS is to get into process monitor and force a frozen or sluggish app to exit. I would happily not have winkeys, winkeyless cases with blockers usually look prettier.

It's required for OSX.  You can't work without a command key.  Maybe you could live without alt, but you'd be losing most secondary menus and text traversal.

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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:10:42 »
The upcoming case...

Was there a tease for this somewhere? and more importantly: can you reveal if this will be fixed profile? I'm looking for a wkl design that can be used at 0, maybe even negative angle for more wrist comfort.

Also, re the PCB - could it be supplied with factory fitted Gold Holtites?

Case is undergoing revision after evaluating the prototype. Pictures weren't shown since there'll be quite a few changes. Angle will most likely be fixed around 8 or so. Holtites will still have to be inserted by the user as they're not meant for mass production fitting.
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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 07 July 2017, 18:55:48 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

The only time I've ever used that key on any OS is to get into process monitor and force a frozen or sluggish app to exit. I would happily not have winkeys, winkeyless cases with blockers usually look prettier.

Do you use a computer as a primary productivity device in your job?

I am a C# software engineer. I am in windows all day. Win + E is explorer, Win + R is run, Win + S is search, Win+M minimizes all the windows, Win+L locks the machine, Win + D quickly toggles all between windows and the desktop. Not to mention in Windows 10, the search functionality is actually useful. For example to launch vs I usually do Win then "vis" and enter and I'm done.

I can absolutely get by without winkeys, but it would make me 2-3x slower and that seems counter to my reasons for upgrading to a compact keyboard.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree for some keyboards it can LOOK better, but I could never justify a keyboard that would hurt my productivity so much, no matter how good I think it may look.

That's why I'm holding out hope that there will be a non-wkl version, ideally in zeal purple  :thumb:. Then I'll buy like 5 (really probably more since I'd build some for my friends/family too), but a 65 with rgb would be endgame for me. I just miss arrows.

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« Reply #48 on: Mon, 10 July 2017, 14:48:02 »
So you people just don't use Windows or what?  I don't see how i could get through the day without using the win key.   Do you just remap it?

The only time I've ever used that key on any OS is to get into process monitor and force a frozen or sluggish app to exit. I would happily not have winkeys, winkeyless cases with blockers usually look prettier.

Do you use a computer as a primary productivity device in your job?

I am a C# software engineer. I am in windows all day. Win + E is explorer, Win + R is run, Win + S is search, Win+M minimizes all the windows, Win+L locks the machine, Win + D quickly toggles all between windows and the desktop. Not to mention in Windows 10, the search functionality is actually useful. For example to launch vs I usually do Win then "vis" and enter and I'm done.

I can absolutely get by without winkeys, but it would make me 2-3x slower and that seems counter to my reasons for upgrading to a compact keyboard.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree for some keyboards it can LOOK better, but I could never justify a keyboard that would hurt my productivity so much, no matter how good I think it may look.

That's why I'm holding out hope that there will be a non-wkl version, ideally in zeal purple  :thumb:. Then I'll buy like 5 (really probably more since I'd build some for my friends/family too), but a 65 with rgb would be endgame for me. I just miss arrows.

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Re: 黑金
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 10 August 2017, 18:03:11 »
What's the latest news on the Zeal65?