[IC] GREEN SCREEN SA Keycaps == Your Computer in the 1980s

[phinix]

So we have green UK ISO, but no amber UK ISO - why is that again?

What if someone wants to buy amber in UK ISO?

[FuriousGeorge]

So we have green UK ISO, but no amber UK ISO - why is that again?

What if someone wants to buy amber in UK ISO?

I'd guess it will probably have difficulty meeting MOQ if they are separated. ISO isn't usually a huge seller. I'd suspect it's better to have both colors in one set if both are going to be offered.

[feediko]

there's an error in the nordic kit:

The german 3 key should have a § instead of the pound character.

[Jumie]

I want this to happen...

[My_Thoughts]

My wallet is not happy but Im going to have to get this

[phinix]

So we have green UK ISO, but no amber UK ISO - why is that again?

What if someone wants to buy amber in UK ISO?

I'd guess it will probably have difficulty meeting MOQ if they are separated. ISO isn't usually a huge seller. I'd suspect it's better to have both colors in one set if both are going to be offered.

Well, I agree - both colors in one is fine - as long as we will get both colors in ISO.

[Special K]

This one looks interesting.  Is it too similar to the [IC] GMK Terminal though?  Would two green/black sets trying to drop at the same time be too many, or is the GMK vs. SA enough of a differentiator that each set could reach MOQ?

[diqkiq]

Any more news on this set? I think this would look good with my grey Mira

[TheNamesTy45]

Weird. I was actually just thinking about this concept today at work (I interact with a mainframe routinely there...). I'd be down.

[Data]

OP hasn't logged on in 5 months.  I'm guessing this one is dead.  I wonder if he would mind someone else picking it up...

[Niomosy]

OP hasn't logged on in 5 months.  I'm guessing this one is dead.  I wonder if he would mind someone else picking it up...

It's always possible for someone else to step in and carry the buy forward.  That said, the SA doubleshot backlog is currently at a year and MassDrop doesn't seem to be accepting new SA sets right now.  This one's on hiatus for quite a while regardless.

[P1kas]

A shame it's dead, too. An SA set with yellow as the legend colors is very appealing

[diqkiq]

Anyone want to see this as a GMK set?

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[MikeTheTiger]

OP hasn't logged on in 5 months.  I'm guessing this one is dead.  I wonder if he would mind someone else picking it up...

+1

[phinix]

Any news? Is this going to be made?

[harlw]

Any news? Is this going to be made?

Doubt it - he hasn't replied to my emails. If I got his blessing I'd see about running it.

[ojrask]

Wow this looks awesome. Shame it seems dead. Anyone up for taking this to Maxkeys if it is OK with the original IC author?

[harlw]

Wow this looks awesome. Shame it seems dead. Anyone up for taking this to Maxkeys if it is OK with the original IC author?

I emailed him again - we'll see what he says.

[Oblotzky]

Wow this looks awesome. Shame it seems dead. Anyone up for taking this to Maxkeys if it is OK with the original IC author?

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

[ojrask]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

[Wolf123rt]

It would look nice if there were black and green mods too

[Oblotzky]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

[ojrask]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

I knew the finish was a bit different, but didn't know the profile is not 1-to-1. Or do you mean legend shapes?

[Oblotzky]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

I knew the finish was a bit different, but didn't know the profile is not 1-to-1. Or do you mean legend shapes?

No, SP SA has slightly more rounded off edges of the touch surface, while MaxKeys is a sharper edge and corner, a bit more 'cubic' if that makes sense. I own a copy of WoB MaxKeys and it's quite noticeable IMO, and I simply prefer SP's more glossy round finish

MaxKeys Miami Night:



SP SA Pulse

[MikeTheTiger]

Wow this looks awesome. Shame it seems dead. Anyone up for taking this to Maxkeys if it is OK with the original IC author?

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

So true. I’ve been kind of disappointed with everyone flocking to MaxKeys. Lack of layout support and lesser quality just so people can get sets in their hands is diluting the market. I agree...do it properly and don’t rush it.

[ojrask]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

I knew the finish was a bit different, but didn't know the profile is not 1-to-1. Or do you mean legend shapes?

No, SP SA has slightly more rounded off edges of the touch surface, while MaxKeys is a sharper edge and corner, a bit more 'cubic' if that makes sense. I own a copy of WoB MaxKeys and it's quite noticeable IMO, and I simply prefer SP's more glossy round finish

MaxKeys Miami Night:

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SP SA Pulse

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. Makes sense. It is a shame they named the profile SA while it looks and feels so different.

That in mind I would take back my suggestion of Green Screen going with MaxKeys to keep it true to the original IC. Need to buy a MaxKeys set myself to see how it works.

[Oblotzky]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

I knew the finish was a bit different, but didn't know the profile is not 1-to-1. Or do you mean legend shapes?

No, SP SA has slightly more rounded off edges of the touch surface, while MaxKeys is a sharper edge and corner, a bit more 'cubic' if that makes sense. I own a copy of WoB MaxKeys and it's quite noticeable IMO, and I simply prefer SP's more glossy round finish

MaxKeys Miami Night:

Show Image

SP SA Pulse

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It is a shame they named the profile SA while it looks and feels so different.

That's on the community, they chose to call it that. IMO it should be 'MK SetName' instead of SA, but its too late for that now. It's also going to be a pain on the aftermarket to discern between manufacturers, e.g. Calm Depths will soon be both SP and MaxKeys, but both is referred to "SA Calm Depths"

[Wolf123rt]

Maxkeys calm depths has a matte finish unlike SP which has a glossy finish so you will be able to tell the difference

[Oblotzky]

Maxkeys calm depths has a matte finish unlike SP which has a glossy finish so you will be able to tell the difference

I know that the people that care about the difference will be able to tell the sets apart. But if someone sells "SA Calm Depths" on mechmarket and has a timestamp of a plastic bag filled with keycaps... not as easy. In real life, piece of cake.

[MikeTheTiger]

Could people please stop trying to move everything to MaxKeys... if you want a nice set, do it properly and don't rush things.

No rushing intended.

I have not heard other complaints about MaxKeys other than lack of layouts (and the funky but now fixed legends), which can presumably be talked about with MaxKeys. I have not owned a set so I might be missing something, have your MaxKeys sets had flaws?

I am OK with good old SP SA as well in case MaxKeys has issues in fulfilling visions.

Finish is different and shape is not to my liking either

I knew the finish was a bit different, but didn't know the profile is not 1-to-1. Or do you mean legend shapes?

No, SP SA has slightly more rounded off edges of the touch surface, while MaxKeys is a sharper edge and corner, a bit more 'cubic' if that makes sense. I own a copy of WoB MaxKeys and it's quite noticeable IMO, and I simply prefer SP's more glossy round finish

MaxKeys Miami Night:

Show Image

SP SA Pulse

Show Image

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Makes sense. It is a shame they named the profile SA while it looks and feels so different.

That in mind I would take back my suggestion of Green Screen going with MaxKeys to keep it true to the original IC. Need to buy a MaxKeys set myself to see how it works.

It is a shame they are calling in SA.

[Sputnik]

Great one! Hope this will happen soon.....

[kmba]

SP and Maxkeys should go with the SS name, spherical sculptured. SA stands for spherical all rows, which was the original name given by SP when the caps were sculpted.

[derezzed]

Any news? Is this going to be made?

Doubt it - he hasn't replied to my emails. If I got his blessing I'd see about running it.

That would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath.  Didn't the OP move to Europe for work?

[Oblotzky]

In April of 2017 I first contacted Adam via E-Mail, where he expressed his wish to open-source this project and give anyone free reign to continue working on it. Not much has happened since as he appears to be busy with life, so a few weeks ago I spent some free time on re-working this set into a more modern form as the nature of SA GB's has evolved quite a bit since this project was last updated.

I created an array of kits that would suit a MD buy as OP intended to have, and I see good chances of it ending up there finally. I then sent those to Adam again on Sunday and we had a small exchange again today. He suggested he would take a backseat position and let me lead the pen from now on. He has now given me expressed permission to do that, thank you very much for trusting me with this project!



I have made 2 significant changes to the original design:

- I changed the profile to 112343 as opposed to 112344. This is mainly due to the fact that Planck and 40% keyboards would have a R3 bottom row for ergonomic reasons in either case (barely any such keyboards have an angle that a R4 bottom row would compliment). A R3 bottom row makes things easier with expanded compatibility and versatility of the arrows from both the Alphas and the Arrows kit.
- Secondly, I chose to re-use SA Oblivion's ASM legends on Planck/40%/Ergodox as I felt they are very appropriate for this theme, and solve a lot of issues those kits usually have (no duplicate Ergodox kit, no plethora of extra kits to cover various legends on Planck/40% etc).

Please let me know how you feel about these changes, and tell me what else you'd like to see improved upon.

Lastly, I would like to gather ideas for the novelties kit. Currently it's rather bleak, lot's of room to improve here. t0mb3ry has offered to help create vector work for this part, so please let us hear your ideas!

Here is one he had for a return key.



Without further ado, the before mentioned array of kits:





































Thank you for your time!

[Valaris]

A sort of SA Terminal? I like it!

[dsaf]

Please let me know how you feel about these changes, and tell me what else you'd like to see improved upon.

Lastly, I would like to gather ideas for the novelties kit. Currently it's rather bleak, lot's of room to improve here. t0mb3ry has offered to help create vector work for this part, so please let us hear your ideas!

1. Not sure about profile change.

2. More ISO love in terms of novelties.

3. Novelties (boring ideas): 5.25 floppy disk, invader, pacman/ghost (unless copyright problems), command line (like SA RetroBlight).

[oh_chesteroni]

Not a fan of the base color for the mods. Would prefer if it was same color as alphas, but then the set would turn into SA terminal (which I have zero problems with, and would encourage).
Would like to see a different color for the mods nonetheless. Not sure what color, but maybe others can chime in.

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[nguyenhimself]

Not a fan of the base color for the mods. Would prefer if it was same color as alphas, but then the set would turn into SA terminal (which I have zero problems with, and would encourage).
Would like to see a different color for the mods nonetheless. Not sure what color, but maybe others can chime in.

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Are you seriously encouraging him to copy others' works for your own benefits and convenience?

[MikeTheTiger]

I was just thinking about this set the other day. I’m glad it’s getting revived.

[oh_chesteroni]

Not a fan of the base color for the mods. Would prefer if it was same color as alphas, but then the set would turn into SA terminal (which I have zero problems with, and would encourage).
Would like to see a different color for the mods nonetheless. Not sure what color, but maybe others can chime in.

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Are you seriously encouraging him to copy others' works for your own benefits and convenience?

Worth a shot

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[BobCarltheThird]

Not a fan of the base color for the mods. Would prefer if it was same color as alphas, but then the set would turn into SA terminal (which I have zero problems with, and would encourage).
Would like to see a different color for the mods nonetheless. Not sure what color, but maybe others can chime in.

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Are you seriously encouraging him to copy others' works for your own benefits and convenience?

Worth a shot

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Well at least he's honest about it )

[Zambumon]

Good to see that this set is finally back on track. Been a fan of it since the original IC and always thought it would have made it to the group buy stage given the interest on this set, the research done by the original designer and that it uses an attractive and unique color palette. 

[Fooblitzky]

Yes! I was hoping this one would resurface.

Thank you.

[ojrask]

Nice, glad to see this move forward even a bit.

[diqkiq]

I don't mind the bottom R3.

It's good to see this still alive.

[lemur]

Not a fan of the profile change.... (especially since it seems to mostly be to give compatibility to keyboards I will never own  )

Perhaps it has been said before -- but I do not see much of a point for the 'Amber' variant.. looks so much the same.... small benefit perhaps things may end up with cheaper by ditching it and letting everything hit a higher amount of purchases.

I'd ditch the 'SHIFT' key in the numpad kit and replace it with Fn, or some other generic word, or even a blank, as it'd fit a greater variety of numpads, which start to get weird once youre past the escape/backspace key..  (I wish theyd all standardize on something for that extra row)

[Data]

I can't believe this project lives.  I thought it was dead forever.

Brilliant job, as always, Oblotzky.

[Rob27shred]

I really like this colorway, glad to see it revived (not that I was around for the original IC...)! I like the addition of the option of amber or green, I feel this could make for some pretty unique combos with the mods having black legends. The profile change is not a huge issue to me as I've become very used to the 112343 sculpting thanks to my SA Godspeed & Maxkey B&G sets. I do wonder how the modifiers would look with legends that match the alpha's colors, but I think that would add another wrinkle that is not needed in this GB. Great work as usual Oblotzky!

[beekey]

I like 112343 and the green alphas variant is nice. Looking forward to see this drop.

[Oblotzky]

Vote for sculpt here. Please keep in mind that going with 112344 would result in less versatility of Arrows, they would no longer be possible to use in HHKB style or on WASD cluster for example. Also R4 1.75u Control would be added to Specialties to maintain Filco Minila coverage.

https://www.strawpoll.me/15285482/