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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #250 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 21:33:44 »
Will it be possible to get a 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1 bottom row :cool:


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« Reply #251 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 23:01:27 »
Shall we go for GB? >:D

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« Reply #252 on: Wed, 13 June 2018, 23:55:33 »
Yes pretty please.

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« Reply #253 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:24:49 »
Shall we go for GB? >:D
can you post the pantone pallet of the available colours?

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« Reply #254 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:47:09 »
Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover


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« Reply #255 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:49:49 »
Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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Okay, now I'm 100% back in. This is sexy as hell

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« Reply #256 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:50:35 »
Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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That's gonna be a no from me, dog. I don't like seams around the side, which was one of my favorite aspects of the prototype.
I long for the day when I find a beamspring. (At a not insane price)

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #257 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 01:51:31 »
Yes please!

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« Reply #258 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:03:45 »
Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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That's gonna be a no from me, dog. I don't like seams around the side, which was one of my favorite aspects of the prototype.
just a idea ,the seams i still think how to deal it

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #259 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:05:21 »
I liked more the first one

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« Reply #260 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:12:09 »
If the  majority of people want first case i will delete this one  :thumb:

we need go.

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #261 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:19:52 »
I vote for the new case, but if you decide to use the old style would you still consider having the integrated blocker for the arrow key cluster?

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #262 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:27:17 »
I am ok with both designs.
+ pls add the arrow blockers
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« Reply #263 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:53:34 »
I’m not a fan of the new design, but count me in if you go back to the original.

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« Reply #264 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:55:19 »
It looks like some of the previous images posted in the thread have disappeared, such as those that were on page 3...

But for the record, I preferred the original case. 

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« Reply #265 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:57:25 »
I am ok with both designs tho I do prefer the first one. That said, gimme the first design with blockers for the arrow cluster and I'm balls deep in!

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #266 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 06:49:13 »
praise the arrow blocker :)

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« Reply #267 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 07:42:16 »
First one please, the second one looks nothing specialto me. Would not buy.

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« Reply #268 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 09:38:33 »
Put the arrow key blocker in the first design if possible.

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« Reply #269 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 09:51:41 »
Lmao what the **** even

Looks like the exact same as what the side shot for the m0110 looks like

But I guess it’s better than the original.. I’m more inclined to be in

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« Reply #270 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 09:53:14 »
Lmao what the **** even

Looks like the exact same as what the side shot for the m0110 looks like

But I guess it’s better than the original.. I’m more inclined to be in

second one does a much better split from the entire blocky side and adds a good design while still keeping the top half the same. I like it (:


edit: I don't know why I replied to myself I'm sorry
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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #271 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 11:52:26 »
I like both designs, but probably the new one a bit more

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« Reply #272 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 12:14:02 »
I like the new design  :)

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« Reply #273 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 17:10:08 »
Shall we go for GB? >:D

Yes

Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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No




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« Reply #274 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 19:17:50 »
Shall we go for GB? >:D

Yes

Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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No
Take the blocker from the second design and put it on the first? :D

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #275 on: Thu, 14 June 2018, 19:53:35 »
Shall we go for GB? >:D

Yes

Actually i have some new idea about this big boy .changed the cover

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No
Take the blocker from the second design and put it on the first? :D

can't do a 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1 bottom row with a blocker though family :llama:


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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #276 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 09:12:02 »
I don't recall seing this mentioned and if it was, i'm sorry, but will the Elephant support switchtop opening?

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« Reply #277 on: Fri, 15 June 2018, 15:29:32 »
From the looks of the plate no.

Thank god though. Personally, I do not like plates with switch top opening support.

"Swiss cheese plates" lol. They feel less reinforcing for the switch and the switch likes to wobble out of space sometimes because of the extra space.

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« Reply #278 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 07:23:44 »
From the looks of the plate no.

Thank god though. Personally, I do not like plates with switch top opening support.

"Swiss cheese plates" lol. They feel less reinforcing for the switch and the switch likes to wobble out of space sometimes because of the extra space.
My 0.02: Material and thickness of plate and anchoring to the case make infinitely more difference to switch feel than switch cutouts. Once the switch is soldered in, it is not moving location. If you're switch has wobble, then it wobbles. Plate does not fix nor change switch wobble.

As for the new design, I do not like the design. It lost all of its "smoothness." Also, do not like high angle cases at all. Looks higher angle than before/prototype?

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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #279 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 11:43:47 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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« Reply #280 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 11:54:31 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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would like to see no switch top opening as well

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« Reply #281 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 14:52:03 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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You probably didn't understood "switch top open", which is just the small dots allowing the switch to be opened from the top, it isn't the reason of croocked switches or wobble switches. 

Wobble or crocked switches may depend from other reasons: 

- Holes for switches too big. 
- Multiple layers. More layer are supported, more the plate is a ****ty cheese plate. 
- Plate mounted instead of pcb mounted (which is ok because many switches doesn't have the pcb mount version) 
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« Reply #282 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 19:08:04 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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You probably didn't understood "switch top open", which is just the small dots allowing the switch to be opened from the top, it isn't the reason of croocked switches or wobble switches. 

Wobble or crocked switches may depend from other reasons: 

- Holes for switches too big. 
- Multiple layers. More layer are supported, more the plate is a ****ty cheese plate. 
- Plate mounted instead of pcb mounted (which is ok because many switches doesn't have the pcb mount version)
Nah, I do understand what switch top opening means. I have moded switches before. Switch top opening allows one to open the switch while it is soldered.

Since there is more space between the switch and plate to allow switch top opening the more chance of the switch to move to one side. Thus, causing a crooked switch.

This means you have to be extra careful versus a a plate with no switch top opening. So it is an extra hassle for me at least. I just find building with plates with no support for switch top removal easier.

I also used "wobble" in the wrong way. Thus, the misinterpretations.  :)

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« Reply #283 on: Sat, 16 June 2018, 21:03:23 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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You probably didn't understood "switch top open", which is just the small dots allowing the switch to be opened from the top, it isn't the reason of croocked switches or wobble switches. 

Wobble or crocked switches may depend from other reasons: 

- Holes for switches too big. 
- Multiple layers. More layer are supported, more the plate is a ****ty cheese plate. 
- Plate mounted instead of pcb mounted (which is ok because many switches doesn't have the pcb mount version)
Nah, I do understand what switch top opening means. I have moded switches before. Switch top opening allows one to open the switch while it is soldered.

Since there is more space between the switch and plate to allow switch top opening the more chance of the switch to move to one side. Thus, causing a crooked switch.

This means you have to be extra careful versus a a plate with no switch top opening. So it is an extra hassle for me at least. I just find building with plates with no support for switch top removal easier.

I also used "wobble" in the wrong way. Thus, the misinterpretations.  :)

It should not cause to move side to side any more than a normal switch plate.
For reference:


The top and bottom third ish of the sides of the cutout are widened to allow for a tool to be inserted to remove the switchtop. But that still means that the switch itself is constrained in both the x and y axes along two lines, leaving it fully constrained the same way that a normal plate is. Unless I'm missing something there should be no difference between the two from that perspective

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« Reply #284 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 04:33:59 »
I did not mean switch wobble. I mean the switch moving around as a whole. So you get a lot of crooked switches if you are not careful. And

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You probably didn't understood "switch top open", which is just the small dots allowing the switch to be opened from the top, it isn't the reason of croocked switches or wobble switches. 

Wobble or crocked switches may depend from other reasons: 

- Holes for switches too big. 
- Multiple layers. More layer are supported, more the plate is a ****ty cheese plate. 
- Plate mounted instead of pcb mounted (which is ok because many switches doesn't have the pcb mount version)
Nah, I do understand what switch top opening means. I have moded switches before. Switch top opening allows one to open the switch while it is soldered.

Since there is more space between the switch and plate to allow switch top opening the more chance of the switch to move to one side. Thus, causing a crooked switch.

This means you have to be extra careful versus a a plate with no switch top opening. So it is an extra hassle for me at least. I just find building with plates with no support for switch top removal easier.

I also used "wobble" in the wrong way. Thus, the misinterpretations.  :)

That's wrong, you simply had a plate with holes bigger than the size of the switches (e.g. maybe its a kbdfans plate) and this is one of the cases listed above where a switch might crook a bit. 

To reinforce this, I have right here 2 unused plates with switch top removal and a plate with normal holes:
- The one with normal holes is the only one where the switches can move a bit (not much) and this is simply because the dimension of the holes on this plate were made slightly bigger than what should be. 
- The 2 plates with switch top open were made tight and the switch can't be moved in any way. 

Just an example to let you understand that the switch doesn't move because of the switch-top removal feature, but just because the the red lines on the PhantomTaco photo are larger on your plate. 



This image explains pretty well how it works. 
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Re: [IC] S7-Elephant 70% custom keyboard!(Prototype come)
« Reply #285 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 04:42:12 »
I did not mean to spark such a debate haha; it's just that I have no (de)soldering equipment but I want to lube the switches I will put in there and that would have saved me the hassle of sending it back to my budy, who does that soldering part, for him to lube the switches.

If this is not supported, no problem, I will live without :D

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« Reply #286 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 05:27:36 »
I did not mean to spark such a debate haha; it's just that I have no (de)soldering equipment but I want to lube the switches I will put in there and that would have saved me the hassle of sending it back to my budy, who does that soldering part, for him to lube the switches.

If this is not supported, no problem, I will live without :D

Yeah the switch top feature it's pretty good. A good standard to have nowdays with basically no negative side




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« Reply #287 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 07:06:23 »
Now that the switch plate matter has settled, lets get back to the ... *ahem* elephant in the room...  the top housing design. 

Are we still debating between the original versus the 2nd design?  Because I just gotta reiterate that I believe the curves and look of the original design is what made this keyboard concept truly unique and set it apart from everything else currently being worked on.  Almost a difference of Retro vs Contemporary, in my eyes.  (And I'll probably side with Retro every time.)

Though, I understand that the 2nd concept could be more popular and can be at peace with that if it's indeed the final outcome - but it really is a difference between sale or no sale for me personally.  I still think the 2nd design is a fine looking keyboard, but just not unique enough that I'd currently want to add it to my collection.  That first design though, that elephant would get top billing at the keyboard circus!  ;)

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« Reply #288 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 10:01:08 »
Now that the switch plate matter has settled, lets get back to the ... *ahem* elephant in the room...  the top housing design. 

Are we still debating between the original versus the 2nd design?  Because I just gotta reiterate that I believe the curves and look of the original design is what made this keyboard concept truly unique and set it apart from everything else currently being worked on.  Almost a difference of Retro vs Contemporary, in my eyes.  (And I'll probably side with Retro every time.)

Though, I understand that the 2nd concept could be more popular and can be at peace with that if it's indeed the final outcome - but it really is a difference between sale or no sale for me personally.  I still think the 2nd design is a fine looking keyboard, but just not unique enough that I'd currently want to add it to my collection.  That first design though, that elephant would get top billing at the keyboard circus!  ;)

Perfectly summed this up for me. The first design made me follow this IC. Please stick to it.

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« Reply #289 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 10:26:23 »
Even though it's very unlikely that I'll join this GB (a money thing mostly :P), I would highly prefer the first design.

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« Reply #290 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 10:59:50 »
Now that the switch plate matter has settled, lets get back to the ... *ahem* elephant in the room...  the top housing design. 

Are we still debating between the original versus the 2nd design?  Because I just gotta reiterate that I believe the curves and look of the original design is what made this keyboard concept truly unique and set it apart from everything else currently being worked on.  Almost a difference of Retro vs Contemporary, in my eyes.  (And I'll probably side with Retro every time.)

Though, I understand that the 2nd concept could be more popular and can be at peace with that if it's indeed the final outcome - but it really is a difference between sale or no sale for me personally.  I still think the 2nd design is a fine looking keyboard, but just not unique enough that I'd currently want to add it to my collection.  That first design though, that elephant would get top billing at the keyboard circus!  ;)

Perfectly summed this up for me. The first design made me follow this IC. Please stick to it.

Same, go for the first design




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« Reply #291 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 11:10:02 »
Now that the switch plate matter has settled, lets get back to the ... *ahem* elephant in the room...  the top housing design. 

Are we still debating between the original versus the 2nd design?  Because I just gotta reiterate that I believe the curves and look of the original design is what made this keyboard concept truly unique and set it apart from everything else currently being worked on.  Almost a difference of Retro vs Contemporary, in my eyes.  (And I'll probably side with Retro every time.)

Though, I understand that the 2nd concept could be more popular and can be at peace with that if it's indeed the final outcome - but it really is a difference between sale or no sale for me personally.  I still think the 2nd design is a fine looking keyboard, but just not unique enough that I'd currently want to add it to my collection.  That first design though, that elephant would get top billing at the keyboard circus!  ;)

Perfectly summed this up for me. The first design made me follow this IC. Please stick to it.

Same, go for the first design
+1 but please add the arrow key blocker :thumb:

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« Reply #292 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 11:21:00 »
I’d agree that the m0110 style bottom might not be the right direction for the project, but I do think it’s worth considering design revisions. People seemed to gloss over the fact that the runner themselves didnt seem particularly happy with the prototype.

Personally, as much as I’m a fan of weird, large-bezel ~65% keyboards as a genre, I do find the original to be a little underdesigned. I like the concept of curving the profile of the case, but something about the way it’s applied to the front seems sort of arbitrary or half-hearted, maybe—it doesn’t do enough to refine the aesthetics of what’s otherwise kind of an inelegant slab of aluminium (not that chunky slabs can’t have charm in their own way).

On the other hand, I’ve no industrial design expertise so that’s just armchair criticism, and judging by the discussion on colours and plate stuff there are a fair number of people who are into it.

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« Reply #293 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 11:50:30 »

+1 but please add the arrow key blocker :thumb:

For the record, I am totally 100% cool with that little blocker. 
If the big blocker on the left side of the keys represents the elephant's trunk, the little arrow key blocker represents it's tail!  ;)

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« Reply #294 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 12:03:27 »

+1 but please add the arrow key blocker :thumb:

For the record, I am totally 100% cool with that little blocker. 
If the big blocker on the left side of the keys represents the elephant's trunk, the little arrow key blocker represents it's tail!  ;)
;D

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« Reply #295 on: Sun, 17 June 2018, 15:02:44 »
Same here, i'm ok with a blocker before the arrows, but i want the first design (DEM CURVES THO)




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« Reply #296 on: Mon, 18 June 2018, 15:54:46 »
Thanks Jacky for accepting to share the 3D file with me! I am now 100% sure I need a one! (as if I need an excuse haha) xD


GMK Oasis on a gorgeous S7-Elephant!

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« Reply #297 on: Mon, 18 June 2018, 16:10:51 »
Thanks Jacky for accepting to share the 3D file with me! I am now 100% sure I need a one! (as if I need an excuse haha) xD

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GMK Oasis on a gorgeous S7-Elephant!

He gave you a 3D model and you decided to do a basically 2D render :thinking:

Can you try one that's maybe angled

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« Reply #298 on: Mon, 18 June 2018, 16:50:32 »
Thanks Jacky for accepting to share the 3D file with me! I am now 100% sure I need a one! (as if I need an excuse haha) xD

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Do you have the 3D model with the arrow cluster blocker?

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« Reply #299 on: Mon, 18 June 2018, 16:54:59 »
Thanks Jacky for accepting to share the 3D file with me! I am now 100% sure I need a one! (as if I need an excuse haha) xD

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GMK Oasis on a gorgeous S7-Elephant!

He gave you a 3D model and you decided to do a basically 2D render :thinking:

Can you try one that's maybe angled

Haha touché. I unfortunately didn't do it, it's a friend that does renders for me. That said he is busy with exams right now, so not sure he can get it done soon-ish.

Plus that's the most important part for the moment haha since that's the part that doesn't change between versions 👌