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Out with the Old Joe, In with the New Kamala
noisyturtle:
Yeah, I don't think debates matter too much any more. Most people have already made their choices, and no amount of information will change them.
All debates are any more are a risk each nominee is taking where everyone is just watching to see if they slip up so they can use it as more ammo.
fohat.digs:
--- Quote from: noisyturtle on Sun, 29 September 2024, 17:23:17 ---
don't think debates matter too much any more.
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I completely agree that very very few votes will be flipped on Tuesday, but, in any case, the MAGAs are going to have to have someone to turn to in the (probably very near) future.
Tuesday's showing may well determine whether James Donald Woodson (aka James David Hamel aka J.D. Vance) goes forward as one of Drumpf's dingleberries or whether he establishes himself as a player in a Republican future.
Unless, of course, the Vump-Trance ticket were to make it to an inauguration in January 2025, in which case JD would quickly 25th Amendment the fat **** and catapult himself into the Oval Office quite rapidly. Don't imagine that he wouldn't do it.
tp4tissue:
Your first mistake, was assumn' the average person could reed.
fohat.digs:
--- Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 29 September 2024, 20:50:48 ---
Tuesday's showing may well determine whether James Donald Woodson (aka James David Hamel aka J.D. Vance) goes forward as one of Drumpf's dingleberries
he might set the stage for a comeback in the years to come
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I guessed wrong.
Instead of taking a higher road and making himself seem worthy of the presidency, he wallowed in the muck and stench of nonsense like Jan 6 denialism.
tp4tissue:
The foreign policy between the 2 presidential / vice presidential candidates is EXACTLY THE SAME. More Military SPENDING !!
America is gearing up to send more farmer's kids to die, no matter who you vote for. Suppressing IRAN is ridiculous, we couldn't defeat Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan. What makes anyone think it'll be any different this time.
Neither candidates have done, or plan to do anything about climate change. Both agree on maintaining status quo capitalism, the very thing that got us into this mess in the first place.
The world's Jewish Orthodoxy uniformly / over-whelmingly / unequivocally support Trump because they believe with absolute certainty that Trump will send in American troops to complete their genocide.
In the long run, that is too bad for the Palestinians, because Harris is pretty much just as likely to it.
As Americans, unless you're a soldier, you don't have to worry about war with Palestine. There will only be at worst death in the 1000s.
However, Russia is another matter. Push comes to shove, we CAN NOT defeat another nuclear nation, without mutually assuring our own destruction. In-between the extremes, lots of American farmer's kids will die. War with Russia will be death in the hundred thousands, which then precipitates to millions, finally the end of mankind.
Ukraine is already lost, Notice they're not in the news anymore, Ukrainian death in the millions by now.. Because we bungled it royally. The Biden/Harris administration messed up.
Donald Trump is the safer bet when it comes to the Putin Drama, but this benefit will be extremely short lived. He will absolutely make just about every other world contention worse.
Both candidates talk about/n'quote "Israel needs a win." What does that mean, it means because they're our ally, and we've invested our American-Prestige, aka, sold them Military hardware, we HAVE TO PROVE, that it was money well spent, and the world should buy more into our crumbling military industrial complex.
Palestine will likely go down, for no other reason than to maintain the Facade that American Violence Reigns Supreme.
It's ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT, because we sought to PROVE that with UKRAINE, and they've already lost the war, plain and simple, we sent them all the guns in the world, and they still lost.
This is not a Surprise, For the last 30-40 years, the majority of American military elites, retired diplomats, all agreed, vocally, that this was the likely outcome in a confrontation with Russia. Ukraine was a stupid play. If anything it only shows how weak and ineffective American brand violence actually is.
We can easily take Palestine and complete the genocide for Israel, the real problem is IRAN. Unlike Palestine, it's an actual country, uniting many other nations of the Arab world.
It only takes 30 people to plan and do a 9.11.
How many 9.11s do you think it would take to cripple Israel / / America.
Iranian hackers alone brought our entire banking system to its knees, after we killed their nuclear scientists. They demonstrated unequivocally the fragility of the modern world. This wasn't in the news, but it was probably the biggest hole our militarism dug under Obama.
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