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Out with the Old Joe, In with the New Kamala
fohat.digs:
--- Quote from: chyros on Thu, 25 July 2024, 04:46:41 ---
no political party I can really agree with
combined alliance is falling apart.
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Can you give me a specific example of something that the Democratic Party has done that you don't agree with, with the exception of giving far too much support to the Right in Israel?
And does that outweigh any number of other examples, to name climate change for just one?
The question is to chyros, not to toilet paper for tissue.
tp4tissue:
There is only minor differences between the 2 parties.
Both parties are extremely RIGHT-wing.
fohat.digs:
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 July 2024, 09:12:05 ---
minor differences
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You are an arrogant *******.
Not matter how slight differences may be, if voters waste their opportunities to steer towards a better tomorrow then they can only blame themselves if things get worse.
tp4tissue:
--- Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 25 July 2024, 09:40:12 ---
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 July 2024, 09:12:05 ---
minor differences
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You are an arrogant *******.
Not matter how slight differences may be, if voters waste their opportunities to steer towards a better tomorrow then they can only blame themselves if things get worse.
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The fact that fohat believes we live in a democracy is laughable.
Both parties are business parties, both extremely right wing, entirely imperialistic. Both parties want to burn more fossil fuels to expand the economy, NEITHER parties has any plan to meaningfully curtail business as usual.
Under Biden, United States has become the world's Largest oil producer. What the democrats claim to be doing about the climate, doesn't jive with what's actually happening.
The fohat always talk about moving the needle. Yea, it's always moving towards the Lack of a future, be it democrat or republican.
Capitalism / Imperialism / Humanity only knows how to do 1 thing.
Findecanor:
--- Quote from: chyros on Thu, 25 July 2024, 04:46:41 ---For better or worse, America is the controlling force in the West, and honestly I feel a lot safer because of the protection it provides me.
Despite Trump having completely compromised the entire security of NATO with a single remark, I can't even imagine what would happen if the EU would get into a major conflict with Russia or China or another Eastern power and we didn't have the US' support to rely on. Of course Trump is now actually actively encouraging our enemies to attack us, which is quite terrifying, and really a sign we should become more self-reliant, but it feels like a shame that our combined alliance is falling apart.
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My country (Sweden) recently joined NATO after having been neutral for a long time.
We also got into a "Defence Cooperation Agreement" with USA itself, to allow US troops to be stationed here ... in addition to the conditions in the NATO treaty.
The reason why is to get a faster response than with just NATO, in case Russia does something.
The biggest argument against it was of course: Trump is likely to become president, and everything he could do. Trump is more aligned with Putin than with us.
(I protested for hours against the DCA, and then watched in sadness as the parliament vote for it...)
--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 July 2024, 09:12:05 ---minor differences
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It used to be like that for decades, and yes both parties have become increasingly under the control of major corporations.
But there is still a major degree of difference.
Trump is backed by de-facto nazis who wants a corporate totalitarian state and to wreck the Earth for short-term profit.
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