Post by: xondat on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:33:49
(https://i.imgur.com/0PHMlSM.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/4jw5RjS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Vlet8yM.png)
Information:
- 8 Degrees Base Angle
- Top Mounted Plate with Switch Opening
- Compatible with any Standard 60% PCB
- Choice of 3 Different Top Pieces
- ANSI or Universal Plates
- Total of 100
- Black, Dark Gray, Silver, Gold, or Red Anodizing
- Brass Weight with Engraving & Individual Numbering
- Aluminium or Stainless Steel Plate
- Limited to 30 Units
- Black Anodizing
- Stainless Steel Weight with Engraving & Individual Numbering
- Carbon Fiber Plate
- Limited to 10 Units
- Black, Dark Gray, Silver, Gold, or Red Anodizing
- Brass Weight with Engraving
- Aluminium or Stainless Steel Plate
- Limited to 60 Units
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:38:52
In for a normal 60% if you can get a nice 60% PCB that runs TMK and has LEDs.
Can you engrave something cool on the weight?
Post by: muon on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:41:51
Post by: cmd on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:47:50
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 10 June 2016, 16:52:18
edit: I think someone else is running a hhkb case interest check as well, not sure how different yours would be.
Post by: rpeterclark on Fri, 10 June 2016, 17:26:51
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 10 June 2016, 19:42:25
Post by: Phenix on Fri, 10 June 2016, 20:35:05
75% but
Smart68 arrow cluster
+second set of arrows/nav cluster on the left
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 June 2016, 20:40:45
why not doing something more interesting than 75?
75% but
Smart68 arrow cluster
+second set of arrows/nav cluster on the left
I think 75% is unusual in itself.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 June 2016, 20:41:26
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 10 June 2016, 20:49:45
Would any of them accommodate an RGB diffuser?
This would definitely be preferred, imo.
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 10 June 2016, 21:02:54
Post by: romevi on Fri, 10 June 2016, 21:05:31
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 10 June 2016, 21:10:42
Post by: feralfoo on Fri, 10 June 2016, 21:36:35
Would love to see the controller chip on a seperate board, think Teensy/Adafruit Feather/etc. This would raise the cost, but also means we can add our own controller and write our own firmware. What do you think?
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 10 June 2016, 22:23:11
Please no, keep it simple :(
+1
I really like the regular 60%
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 10 June 2016, 22:38:43
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 11 June 2016, 02:40:03
Would it be possible to make the 60% keyboards support premade PCBs like the GH60 or NerD 60? You mentioned the lack of cutouts for the USB connection, and I figured that's the only thing you need to modify to fit the 60% PCB standard.
Would also be interested in engraving something neato for the weight ^-^
Post by: Diokhan on Sat, 11 June 2016, 06:02:23
Look really sleek!
Post by: dannrawr on Sat, 11 June 2016, 08:30:11
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Post by: juahenza on Sat, 11 June 2016, 08:42:14
Post by: nickysan92 on Sat, 11 June 2016, 11:46:03
Personally, having a RGB diffuser like the one present on Duck's Blackbird would be great.
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 11 June 2016, 12:07:59
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 11 June 2016, 15:36:39
I don't like how the bottom is just an angled square extending the front tbh tho.
Throwing in another angle on the back would make the design look a lot more elegant.
Hubble Mira has a angled bottom in the opposite direction for example.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 11 June 2016, 17:11:37
(http://i.imgur.com/zKwONGo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/m2zZwTS.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4VHd5hQ.png)
Well I revised the design, made an acrylic diffuser and added one new top plate. I'm currently replying to comments here in a separate post.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 11 June 2016, 17:15:13
Can you engrave something cool on the weight?Once I figure out what to put, sure.
Would any of them accommodate an RGB diffuser?Accommodated!
Would love to see the controller chip on a seperate board, think Teensy/Adafruit Feather/etc. This would raise the cost, but also means we can add our own controller and write our own firmware. What do you think?Depending on the layout it's unlikely but I'll make sure to use a PCB that supports customization.
WKL 60% please.Done.
Would it be possible to make the 60% keyboards support premade PCBs like the GH60 or NerD 60? You mentioned the lack of cutouts for the USB connection, and I figured that's the only thing you need to modify to fit the 60% PCB standard.60% PCBs are universal so it will support the standard 60% PCB.
Would also be interested in engraving something neato for the weight ^-^
The renders look like it has a steep angle on it -- what's the angle of the board?8 degrees.
Post by: romevi on Sat, 11 June 2016, 17:15:36
Post by: scubaste on Sat, 11 June 2016, 17:21:15
Post by: jebbra on Sat, 11 June 2016, 21:49:38
HHKB plox
Would it be possible to make the 60% keyboards support premade PCBs like the GH60 or NerD 60? You mentioned the lack of cutouts for the USB connection, and I figured that's the only thing you need to modify to fit the 60% PCB standard.
It's already done in another IC by Dotdash32
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sat, 11 June 2016, 21:53:19
Would it be possible to make the 60% keyboards support premade PCBs like the GH60 or NerD 60? You mentioned the lack of cutouts for the USB connection, and I figured that's the only thing you need to modify to fit the 60% PCB standard.
Other than the USB location, the plate is mounted to the sides of the case, rather than the PCB being mounted to the bottom of the case. So that would need to be modified as well but I think this was done for increased rigidity. Same as how you see it on the TKL ones.
Post by: fublamchu on Sat, 11 June 2016, 22:31:16
Post by: xondat on Sun, 12 June 2016, 07:27:21
It's already done in another IC by Dotdash32
I'll throw it out there as it's been mentioned a couple of times.
These are two very different cases. His is a normal 60% mounting style, with the PCB screwing into the case, identical for the traditional 60%. My PCB mounts to the plate, which mounts to the top case, similar to the great customs. His aim is to replicate the HHKB case but for MX whereas mine is just because people like the layout. Finally price points are completely different. To quote him "the goal is sub 100". Mine is a lot, lot more.
I'm going to be putting a questionnaire up in a few hours, it'll help if people fill it out.
Post by: jebbra on Sun, 12 June 2016, 14:49:56
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 12 June 2016, 15:22:40
Yep I pointed out Dotdash just because what he search is the one Dotdash make, yours is a different story all the way, more like KMAC Happy / Viper
nah I'd rather have xondat's hhkb than dotdash's. Xondat's version looks better
Post by: xondat on Sun, 12 June 2016, 18:05:54
I finished a complete remodel of the 60% form factors and will be doing a 75% remodel tomorrow. The remodel is just to make sure everything is working properly.
Post by: vito687 on Sun, 12 June 2016, 18:36:01
This happening
Post by: ramnes on Sun, 12 June 2016, 20:26:27
Post by: billnye on Sun, 12 June 2016, 20:29:01
If you make HHKB custom I love you long time :-*.
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 12 June 2016, 20:54:01
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 12 June 2016, 23:34:26
Blue-Grey would be one of my top choices for color. Would also like to see a light, or medium Grey color option.
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 13 June 2016, 00:58:14
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 13 June 2016, 02:24:45
Post by: alveeno on Mon, 13 June 2016, 09:54:01
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 June 2016, 09:59:07
I'd be interested in the hhkb, will it support SMD's?
As long as the PCB does.
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 13 June 2016, 11:58:29
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 13 June 2016, 13:44:09
Post by: braidn on Mon, 13 June 2016, 14:51:34
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 June 2016, 18:09:59
These are the two weight shapes I'm deciding between - input would be appreciated. I made a strawpoll here (http://www.strawpoll.me/10478756). Please note that I haven't added tilt/chamfers/fillets yet. Screw holes aren't final.
Thank you to everyone that filled the questionnaire in so far.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 13 June 2016, 18:14:41
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 13 June 2016, 18:25:30
Post by: romevi on Mon, 13 June 2016, 18:51:14
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Mon, 13 June 2016, 19:53:36
Post by: JulienC on Mon, 13 June 2016, 20:59:37
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 14 June 2016, 00:05:28
Post by: gadzkun on Tue, 14 June 2016, 00:12:31
can you make the side of bottom case have handle like lz rv
Post by: xondat on Thu, 16 June 2016, 18:27:10
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 16 June 2016, 18:47:02
I'm even thinking about picking up multiples of the HHKB
Post by: romevi on Thu, 16 June 2016, 18:50:49
Post by: renzpwns on Thu, 16 June 2016, 20:55:25
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 16 June 2016, 21:05:53
Post by: xondat on Fri, 17 June 2016, 09:39:40
(http://i.imgur.com/p80HczF.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sdPYo8b.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/WJIOgsK.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/uCQmTEi.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/FcW6Weq.png)
Find the rest of the images here: http://imgur.com/a/OGAa2
So this is the HHKB finished in my eyes. I had a total of 41 responses to the questionnaire, and 20 peoples favorite was the HHKB. The results I got helped a lot with the design process and the 3rd remodel that I did, so a lot of the things from it are reflected in the keyboard itself. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks but that's it as far as any big edits or design decisions go. However I may reduce the outside fillets to 1mm instead of 2mm, creating a less curvy look, but I'll see how it goes down as it's pretty split. Over the next couple of days I'll be remodeling the 75% layout - it will look the same as this. For now, I'll be working on quoting and seeing what I can do.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 17 June 2016, 09:51:47
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4jA1oCu.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p80HczF.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sdPYo8b.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WJIOgsK.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uCQmTEi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FcW6Weq.png)
Find the rest of the images here: http://imgur.com/a/OGAa2
So this is the HHKB finished in my eyes. I had a total of 41 responses to the questionnaire, and 20 peoples favorite was the HHKB. The results I got helped a lot with the design process and the 3rd remodel that I did, so a lot of the things from it are reflected in the keyboard itself. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks but that's it as far as any big edits or design decisions go. However I may reduce the outside fillets to 1mm instead of 2mm, creating a less curvy look, but I'll see how it goes down as it's pretty split. Over the next couple of days I'll be remodeling the 75% layout - it will look the same as this. For now, I'll be working on quoting and seeing what I can do.
xondat, this looks absolutely marvelous.
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 17 June 2016, 10:49:20
Looks great! Can't wait to see your 75% redesign.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4jA1oCu.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p80HczF.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sdPYo8b.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WJIOgsK.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uCQmTEi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FcW6Weq.png)
Find the rest of the images here: http://imgur.com/a/OGAa2
So this is the HHKB finished in my eyes. I had a total of 41 responses to the questionnaire, and 20 peoples favorite was the HHKB. The results I got helped a lot with the design process and the 3rd remodel that I did, so a lot of the things from it are reflected in the keyboard itself. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks but that's it as far as any big edits or design decisions go. However I may reduce the outside fillets to 1mm instead of 2mm, creating a less curvy look, but I'll see how it goes down as it's pretty split. Over the next couple of days I'll be remodeling the 75% layout - it will look the same as this. For now, I'll be working on quoting and seeing what I can do.
Post by: R4WBIT on Sat, 18 June 2016, 14:47:47
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 18 June 2016, 21:59:15
Looks absolutely amazing! 1mm instead of 2mm in the edges would look better imo, otherwise as said, great design. Hope you finish this project :D
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
whoops
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 18 June 2016, 22:08:31
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 18 June 2016, 23:04:07
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
+1
Post by: Minha on Mon, 20 June 2016, 01:41:52
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 20 June 2016, 01:55:48
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 20 June 2016, 03:07:39
Any possibility of making the angle of the case higher?
PLS NO
using my viper for extended periods of time kills my wrists
Post by: 500_pts on Mon, 20 June 2016, 03:12:16
Post by: Minha on Mon, 20 June 2016, 04:01:36
Post by: xondat on Mon, 20 June 2016, 08:02:37
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
This isn't true - the fillets are the curves on the vertical edges. I can change this how I want
Any possibility of making the angle of the case higher?
Not really, I quite like 8 and so does everyone else. What angle are you looking for?
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 20 June 2016, 09:23:29
Post by: thebeae on Mon, 20 June 2016, 11:01:59
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 20 June 2016, 18:03:08
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
This isn't true - the fillets are the curves on the vertical edges. I can change this how I want
If that's the case, hit me with those thin edges
Post by: scubaste on Mon, 20 June 2016, 18:48:26
Post by: xondat on Mon, 20 June 2016, 19:08:17
- 6061 will be used over 7075 as the latter is about 20% more expensive.
- The cost increase between different anodizing colors is minimal so perhaps several colors will be offered.
- Colors need to be kept "broad and basic" although any color can be done, providing it's a primary or secondary.
- Laser etching the brass weights is possible with a small percentage increase in price.
- A brushed finish on the weight is possible, along with nickel plating.
- Everything will be done at the one shop, which allows quality control to be at its highest.
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
Post by: Auxo on Mon, 20 June 2016, 19:52:43
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 20 June 2016, 19:54:06
Small update from the emails with the shop.
- 6061 will be used over 7075 as the latter is about 20% more expensive.
- The cost increase between different anodizing colors is minimal so perhaps several colors will be offered.
- Colors need to be kept "broad and basic" although any color can be done, providing it's a primary or secondary.
- Laser etching the brass weights is possible with a small percentage increase in price.
- A brushed finish on the weight is possible, along with nickel plating.
- Everything will be done at the one shop, which allows quality control to be at its highest.
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
Any idea when you'll start taking deposits? I'd hate to miss out on this
Post by: xondat on Mon, 20 June 2016, 20:04:58
Do we know how much a kit (whatever is available) will likely be priced at? Rough estimate?
Not going to make guesses. There's prices that I want it to be at but saying that doesn't mean it will be therefore I'll post the price when I know.
Any idea when you'll start taking deposits? I'd hate to miss out on this
As soon as I know the cost of the prototype and the amount that have to be made for a realistic group buy cost.
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 20 June 2016, 20:32:47
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
This isn't true - the fillets are the curves on the vertical edges. I can change this how I want
seems like people are confusing fillets for bezels. I'm personally a fan of what you have in the current mockups and think it looks good with that bit of roundedness on the outside edges.
pic of fillet for those who may be confused:
(http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/rounding_the_edges/edges.gif)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 21 June 2016, 04:23:34
2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
This isn't true - the fillets are the curves on the vertical edges. I can change this how I want
seems like people are confusing fillets for bezels. I'm personally a fan of what you have in the current mockups and think it looks good with that bit of roundedness on the outside edges.
pic of fillet for those who may be confused:Show Image(http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/rounding_the_edges/edges.gif)
I figured this was happening too.
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/a9180b57edb74dc0b84bae020d9a51b5.png)
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 21 June 2016, 04:38:22
This looks sexy as hell2 mm is needed for the edges since it will be where the screw holes for the plate will be. If you check out the kmac happy, it doesn't look too bad with the bigger edges
This isn't true - the fillets are the curves on the vertical edges. I can change this how I want
seems like people are confusing fillets for bezels. I'm personally a fan of what you have in the current mockups and think it looks good with that bit of roundedness on the outside edges.
pic of fillet for those who may be confused:Show Image(http://www.neilblevins.com/cg_education/rounding_the_edges/edges.gif)
I figured this was happening too.Show Image(http://image.prntscr.com/image/a9180b57edb74dc0b84bae020d9a51b5.png)
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Post by: xondat on Tue, 21 June 2016, 08:59:21
Post by: Phenix on Tue, 21 June 2016, 13:28:32
Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 June 2016, 18:39:09
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
I've decided that I'll be producing enough to keep the price down instead of keep the numbers low for no reason. Aiming around the $350 mark though.
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 22 June 2016, 18:43:53
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
I've decided that I'll be producing enough to keep the price down instead of keep the numbers low for no reason. Aiming around the $350 mark though.
At least its not $400 :p
I'm still interested in getting at least one of these
Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 June 2016, 18:54:07
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
I've decided that I'll be producing enough to keep the price down instead of keep the numbers low for no reason. Aiming around the $350 mark though.
At least its not $400 :p
I'm still interested in getting at least one of these
Oh I want the price as low as possible too but there is only so many that will buy it :))
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 22 June 2016, 19:10:37
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 22 June 2016, 21:23:43
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
I've decided that I'll be producing enough to keep the price down instead of keep the numbers low for no reason. Aiming around the $350 mark though.
Is that $350 with PCB or without?
Post by: dannrawr on Thu, 23 June 2016, 04:06:37
Post by: romevi on Thu, 23 June 2016, 09:48:34
- I'm looking at having 25 kits made, and deposits are looking likely.
I've decided that I'll be producing enough to keep the price down instead of keep the numbers low for no reason. Aiming around the $350 mark though.
Is that $350 with PCB or without?
Ouch. A little bit higher than I thought, especially since I want only the case and plate.
What PCB will it use? I can't imagine the PCB will knock off that much.
Post by: billnye on Thu, 23 June 2016, 10:18:51
Good looks my man.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4jA1oCu.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p80HczF.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sdPYo8b.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WJIOgsK.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uCQmTEi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FcW6Weq.png)
Find the rest of the images here: http://imgur.com/a/OGAa2
So this is the HHKB finished in my eyes. I had a total of 41 responses to the questionnaire, and 20 peoples favorite was the HHKB. The results I got helped a lot with the design process and the 3rd remodel that I did, so a lot of the things from it are reflected in the keyboard itself. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks but that's it as far as any big edits or design decisions go. However I may reduce the outside fillets to 1mm instead of 2mm, creating a less curvy look, but I'll see how it goes down as it's pretty split. Over the next couple of days I'll be remodeling the 75% layout - it will look the same as this. For now, I'll be working on quoting and seeing what I can do.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 June 2016, 10:52:46
In order to have the prototype made, I will need to raise the base cost or take deposits. I can see the minimum being $340 at this current point in time. This means that deposits would be $20, and I would need 50.
Please fill in this poll so that I can get working on it and get the price as low as I can.
POLL HERE (http://goo.gl/forms/CW0Y6gTaDcvR2ASW2)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:17:32
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/df24a45f5aaa4601afb73c1026c89659.png)
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/20f0e4dda3fe4af98db052b8084dba84.png)
The weight design will be changing, I'll be getting quotes for both no weight and an optional weight and comparing how different the prices are. I'll be getting a quote for a plate with no switch modding, simply out of interest. Engraving is something that probably won't be done as the cost compared to the amount of people that will want it just doesn't make sense for the others.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:27:56
Have you thought about contacting vendors and seeing if they could potentially pick up a couple of orders?
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 23 June 2016, 14:34:14
I want an engraved weight, and visible from outside. :'(
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 23 June 2016, 16:29:55
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 23 June 2016, 17:07:39
Democracy sucks.Same here man
I want an engraved weight, and visible from outside. :'(
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Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 June 2016, 17:14:41
Just noticed the thread name was changed. Will there even be a regular 60% option now?
I'm not sure. I have to find the in between of keeping the price down but options open. 60% was about 20% of the total votes, 30% to 75% and the rest to the HHKB layout. I'm putting another questionnaire together right now to cover everything.
Post by: liillliillliiii on Thu, 23 June 2016, 19:17:26
Real excited for your 75% skeleton arriving, and I've been eyeing the zz-96 layout for "my next".
Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 June 2016, 20:01:03
Any hope of a "96" variant of this case? Loving the design.Hope? Yes. Soon? Probably not. Depends on if this happens and what is most popular next time.
Real excited for your 75% skeleton arriving, and I've been eyeing the zz-96 layout for "my next".
Have you thought about contacting vendors and seeing if they could potentially pick up a couple of orders?I haven't and won't be. It adds another bit of complexity in my mind.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 23 June 2016, 23:20:19
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 24 June 2016, 00:49:32
Just noticed the thread name was changed. Will there even be a regular 60% option now?I'm not sure. I have to find the in between of keeping the price down but options open. 60% was about 20% of the total votes, 30% to 75% and the rest to the HHKB layout. I'm putting another questionnaire together right now to cover everything.
Well if you do decide to add a regular 60% like in the OP I'll be interested :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 24 June 2016, 20:20:21
I'm going to get quotes for:
- HHKB Top
- 60% Top
- Winkeyless Top
- Universal Plate
- Both Sides Weight
- Both Sides Bottom
- Inside Weight
- Inside Bottom
Here is what is definite:
- 6061 Aluminum top/plate/bottom
- Black, Silver, Dark Gray & Red and a wildcard anodizing colors
- Universal, switch moddable plate
- Top mounted plate
- The design
- You chose the PCB
What I'm unsure on:
- Weight design
- Weight material
- Weight engraving
- Acrylic diffuser
- The name
- Pricing
- Place of production (desperately trying for UK)
- Amount available
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 25 June 2016, 03:35:46
ANOTHER BLOODY POLL (http://goo.gl/forms/3XRPHubaiVjDhWyY2)
I'm going to get quotes for:
- HHKB Top
- 60% Top
- Winkeyless Top
- Universal Plate
- Both Sides Weight
- Both Sides Bottom
- Inside Weight
- Inside Bottom
Here is what is definite:
- 6061 Aluminum top/plate/bottom
- Black, Silver, Dark Gray & Red and a wildcard anodizing colors
- Universal, switch moddable plate
- Top mounted plate
- The design
- You chose the PCB
What I'm unsure on:
- Weight design
- Weight material
- Weight engraving
- Acrylic diffuser
- The name
- Pricing
- Place of production (desperately trying for UK)
- Amount available
How are you going to give something to the person who suggests a name that you choose? Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a way to identify who submitted what name.
I'm just gonna leave my suggestion here, in case anyone is as uncreative as me: HXKB - happy xondat keyboard
Post by: xondat on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:45:26
This just isn't possible. It's either no weight/one sided weight with no engraving/diffuser and $300-324 or $400+ fully kitted out. I don't think more than 30 will be made due to demand so that means the price will be higher. Also the UK/EU Referendum kind of screwed the currency so it makes it even harder to have it made in the UK. I'll be looking into having it done at the same shop as a couple other great boards. If this doesn't happen then I probably won't follow through with this due to cost.
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 26 June 2016, 01:31:23
The main problem here is that people select $300-324 but then select the most technical and expensive weight. A good proportion of that same set of people chose the diffuser and engraving too.
This just isn't possible. It's either no weight/one sided weight with no engraving/diffuser and $300-324 or $400+ fully kitted out. I don't think more than 30 will be made due to demand so that means the price will be higher. Also the UK/EU Referendum kind of screwed the currency so it makes it even harder to have it made in the UK. I'll be looking into having it done at the same shop as a couple other great boards. If this doesn't happen then I probably won't follow through with this due to cost.
I think at this point, if the people can't vote reasonably, its up to you to change the design/pricepoint as you see fit and attempt to garner interest based on your own design. Voting to change the design and the price is just gonna generate more work for you. It'd be easier to say "here's what we're doing, here's how much it costs. Get in or get out."
Have you posted thread on DT or reddit? You could possibly get a few orders from those forums.
Regardless, if you decide to change the design or not, you can definitely count me in for one piece based on your initial design. And maybe two based on the final one :thumb:
I really want this to happen, and if it doesn't, it's like God showed me what heaven is like and decided I wasn't fit for it
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 26 June 2016, 01:52:24
The main problem here is that people select $300-324 but then select the most technical and expensive weight. A good proportion of that same set of people chose the diffuser and engraving too.
This just isn't possible. It's either no weight/one sided weight with no engraving/diffuser and $300-324 or $400+ fully kitted out. I don't think more than 30 will be made due to demand so that means the price will be higher. Also the UK/EU Referendum kind of screwed the currency so it makes it even harder to have it made in the UK. I'll be looking into having it done at the same shop as a couple other great boards. If this doesn't happen then I probably won't follow through with this due to cost.
LoL. As soon as I saw the poll I knew that would be the case.
I chose 60%, $300-$324, No weight, No defuser, etc. :cool:
Post by: Diokhan on Sun, 26 June 2016, 16:00:26
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Post by: Malenky on Sun, 26 June 2016, 18:29:58
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 27 June 2016, 04:10:15
HHKB + those extra 2 keys are way nicer
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 27 June 2016, 13:09:11
Post by: Phenix on Mon, 27 June 2016, 13:13:15
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 27 June 2016, 16:23:03
I feel like if you want a standard 60%, then you can get that from just about anywhere. Having a good solid case for a HHKB style board is rare, currently the only ones I know of being the Duck Viper and KMAC Happy. This is why the HHKB style should be the first to be made!
Just throwing it out there that a non tray-style 60% is actually quite rare.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 June 2016, 16:36:56
I feel like if you want a standard 60%, then you can get that from just about anywhere. Having a good solid case for a HHKB style board is rare, currently the only ones I know of being the Duck Viper and KMAC Happy. This is why the HHKB style should be the first to be made!
Just throwing it out there that a non tray-style 60% is actually quite rare.
Thank you. Only the KMAC Happy & 356 mini that I know of.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 27 June 2016, 16:46:21
KMAC Happy is top/bottom mount; Viper/Eagle/Mini is tray mount, Weaven is slid in and 356mini is mounted with a rubber seal. This would be the 3rd non-tray style 60% from what I know.I feel like if you want a standard 60%, then you can get that from just about anywhere. Having a good solid case for a HHKB style board is rare, currently the only ones I know of being the Duck Viper and KMAC Happy. This is why the HHKB style should be the first to be made!Just throwing it out there that a non tray-style 60% is actually quite rare.
I'm happy to offer all 3 tops, as long as it doesn't bring the cost of the whole case up.
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 27 June 2016, 17:25:01
If it ends up being HHKB top only, I'd like to reiterate my interest in getting a raw set so that I can mill it out to a standard 60% layout. I'm a huge fan of my KMAC2 and would love a top mounted 60% to accompany it.
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 28 June 2016, 03:57:38
Post by: misconceit on Tue, 28 June 2016, 06:20:45
Post by: xondat on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:06:12
This reminded me the Aluminium HHKB case that never happened...Which one? The one from 2013 by WFD?
Post by: joey on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:10:33
All of them that never happened :PThis reminded me the Aluminium HHKB case that never happened...Which one? The one from 2013 by WFD?
Post by: cmd on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:11:56
I hope, that you can make wkl version. Is so uncommon and exciting.
"MAKE WKL GREAT AGAIN"
Post by: xondat on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:15:11
Well it's the 2nd most popular with 25% of the submissions choosing it. I shall make it great again :))I hope, that you can make wkl version. Is so uncommon and exciting.
"MAKE WKL GREAT AGAIN"
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 30 June 2016, 10:55:20
Post by: xondat on Thu, 30 June 2016, 14:32:51
Ultimately, I just want this to be made. The options aren't really too consequential to me.
It will be. Expecting new quotes in the next couple of days so will be back on track then. Preorder is about 60/40 for so most likely will.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 30 June 2016, 15:14:43
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:49:33
Post by: RevoTeam on Sat, 02 July 2016, 21:45:23
Post by: xondat on Sat, 02 July 2016, 22:57:35
This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 02 July 2016, 23:01:12
This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......- Different brass weight
- Thinner housing
- Top mounted
Yeah mane I think it looks like 356mini
Post by: cmd on Sun, 03 July 2016, 00:03:50
This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......- Different brass weight
- Thinner housing
- Top mounted
Yeah mane I think it looks like 356mini
nice
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 03 July 2016, 00:31:44
(http://i.giphy.com/QgixZj4y3TwnS.gif)This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
I think that looks more like a KPAD.
I have to wonder if he was meaning it as a compliment saying that it looks like a 356mini?
Post by: RevoTeam on Sun, 03 July 2016, 04:34:56
Hi,man i mean no offense. Just saying...I know the design differences. It's just my first impression.This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
People may think my pad are like kpad. But if you look closely you can see the difference. Before i introduce my pad to the community i was prepared to hear people say REVO pad are like Kpad. You should do the same here. It doesn't hurt it looks a little bit like 356mini. I just saw someone want to buy 356mini for over 1500 usd yesterday. With otd out of the picture,it may be a good thing and help with the sale. Don' be so sensitive. In end of the day,all that matter is how good is your keyboard. It's all about how you deliver something from the render to the real stuff. People can say whatever they want and it won't stop those who like this keyboard.
p.s I have done a HHKB 60% keyboard in 2014 and it just looks like HHKB....Now i am thinking about it and i feel like a good design...Maybe i'll bring it back.
Anyway good luck with everything,i always love to see more 60% keyboard.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 03 July 2016, 04:57:05
Hi,man i mean no offense. Just saying...I know the design differences. It's just my first impression.This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
People may think my pad are like kpad. But if you look closely you can see the difference. Before i introduce my pad to the community i was prepared to hear people say REVO pad are like Kpad. You should do the same here. It doesn't hurt it looks a little bit like 356mini. I just saw someone want to buy 356mini for over 1500 usd yesterday. With otd out of the picture,it may be a good thing and help with the sale. Don' be so sensitive. In end of the day,all that matter is how good is your keyboard. It's all about how you deliver something from the render to the real stuff. People can say whatever they want and it won't stop those who like this keyboard.
p.s I have done a HHKB 60% keyboard in 2014 and it just looks like HHKB....Now i am thinking about it and i feel like a good design...Maybe i'll bring it back.
Anyway good luck with everything,i always love to see more 60% keyboard.
I love the KPAD. So any keypad that looks like it I think looks good as well. I'm seriously thinking about buying one of your RevoPads.
Sorry to get OT.
Post by: RevoTeam on Sun, 03 July 2016, 05:27:34
You should think fast,my friend. I won't do another round anytime soon. I have so many plans.Hi,man i mean no offense. Just saying...I know the design differences. It's just my first impression.This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
People may think my pad are like kpad. But if you look closely you can see the difference. Before i introduce my pad to the community i was prepared to hear people say REVO pad are like Kpad. You should do the same here. It doesn't hurt it looks a little bit like 356mini. I just saw someone want to buy 356mini for over 1500 usd yesterday. With otd out of the picture,it may be a good thing and help with the sale. Don' be so sensitive. In end of the day,all that matter is how good is your keyboard. It's all about how you deliver something from the render to the real stuff. People can say whatever they want and it won't stop those who like this keyboard.
p.s I have done a HHKB 60% keyboard in 2014 and it just looks like HHKB....Now i am thinking about it and i feel like a good design...Maybe i'll bring it back.
Anyway good luck with everything,i always love to see more 60% keyboard.
I love the KPAD. So any keypad that looks like it I think looks good as well. I'm seriously thinking about buying one of your RevoPads.
Sorry to get OT.
Actually,my CNC factory are fully booked for the next four months.
Good luck :D :D :D
Post by: xondat on Mon, 04 July 2016, 10:46:52
No offence taken, I just wanted to provoke your actual opinion rather than just a one sentence reply that doesn't help at all.Hi,man i mean no offense. Just saying...I know the design differences. It's just my first impression.This looks like otd 356mini with HHKB layout......What's wrong with a simple design? Here is a great example of a design that looks like a 356mini:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/revo-design-custom-cnc-aluminum-keypad/MD-17232_20160319174253_8f44da13e0d5f8c0.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=2)
There's lots of design differences if you care to read through.
People may think my pad are like kpad. But if you look closely you can see the difference. Before i introduce my pad to the community i was prepared to hear people say REVO pad are like Kpad. You should do the same here. It doesn't hurt it looks a little bit like 356mini. I just saw someone want to buy 356mini for over 1500 usd yesterday. With otd out of the picture,it may be a good thing and help with the sale. Don' be so sensitive. In end of the day,all that matter is how good is your keyboard. It's all about how you deliver something from the render to the real stuff. People can say whatever they want and it won't stop those who like this keyboard.
p.s I have done a HHKB 60% keyboard in 2014 and it just looks like HHKB....Now i am thinking about it and i feel like a good design...Maybe i'll bring it back.
Anyway good luck with everything,i always love to see more 60% keyboard.
It doesn't hurt to look the same (I'd say it looks more like a Happy but whatever), although it is important to look at the smaller details such as how the plate is mounted, the angle, the weight (completely unique in the land of 60%), and the thickness of the sides.
I really want to make something that hopefully leads the class, so I've been putting all my spare time into it. I want to get this right, and I'm willing to put all the work in into making it perfect.
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 05 July 2016, 05:03:33
So you're going to call it the XK? Or is the name still up in the air?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 05 July 2016, 09:16:33
The design is fantastic, I absolutely can't wait!Name is still not chosen, XK# is just my internal naming scheme.
So you're going to call it the XK? Or is the name still up in the air?
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 05 July 2016, 09:17:38
Going to post a long update tonight on my flight. I have the quotes and it looks like it will happen this month.Hype!The design is fantastic, I absolutely can't wait!
So you're going to call it the XK? Or is the name still up in the air?The design is fantastic, I absolutely can't wait!Name is still not chosen, XK# is just my internal naming scheme.
So you're going to call it the XK? Or is the name still up in the air?
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Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 05 July 2016, 21:22:25
Post by: xondat on Tue, 05 July 2016, 22:41:55
Case:
- Top (HHKB/Winkeyless/60%)
- Plate
- Brass Weight
- Bottom
- Full 6061 aluminium case
- Top mounted plate
- Brass weight
- 8 degrees tilt
- HHKB, 60% & Winkeyless top parts
- Supports ISO/Stepped Caps Lock/Split Right Shift
- Engraved weight (design pending)
- 30 cases made
Black, Space Gray, Silver, Gold, Red
Price (ex. fees & shipping):
~$330 for the case
Shipping:
An accurate weight is not known, but it's looking around 3kg. All keyboards will be shipped from the United Kingdom. Shipping will be in a seperate invoice.
PCB compatibility:
This case works with any standard 60% PCB, such as the NerD 60, GH60, b.face etc. I will offer a PCB as an optional component.
Other Notable Stuff:
- The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.
- Everything will be machined at the same factory as the TGR boards, so you can use this to gauge quality.
- Deposits are still in the works, as I'm not sure I want to/need to.
- Engraving on the weight will happen, but I'm not sure what the design will be. All I know is that the weights will be numbered.
- I'm using 6061 instead of 7075 as it anodizes better and the additional strength 7075 gives isn't worth it and isn't needed.
- The design may change, but nothing dramatic. The changes will be minimal and I doubt everyone will notice.
- The group buy should be open within the next week or two (definitely by the end of July).
- Acrylic diffuser is a maybe.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 05 July 2016, 22:55:36
30 cases made
Guessing that means I can't get two >.<
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 05 July 2016, 22:59:50
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 05 July 2016, 23:06:43
I'll also be getting a steel plate cut for it, any chance you'd share the original vector?
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 05 July 2016, 23:27:14
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ugMTgjB.png)
Case:Specs:
- Top (HHKB/Winkeyless/60%)
- Plate
- Brass Weight
- Bottom
Anodizing Colors:
- Full 6061 aluminium case
- Top mounted plate
- Brass weight
- 8 degrees tilt
- HHKB, 60% & Winkeyless top parts
- Supports ISO/Stepped Caps Lock/Split Right Shift
- Engraved weight (design pending)
- 30 cases made
Black, Space Gray, Silver, Gold, Red
Price (ex. fees & shipping):
~$330 for the case
Shipping:
An accurate weight is not known, but it's looking around 3kg. All keyboards will be shipped from the United Kingdom. Shipping will be in a seperate invoice.
PCB compatibility:
This case works with any standard 60% PCB, such as the NerD 60, GH60, b.face etc. I will offer a PCB as an optional component.
Other Notable Stuff:
- The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.
- Everything will be machined at the same factory as the TGR boards, so you can use this to gauge quality.
- Deposits are still in the works, as I'm not sure I want to/need to.
- Engraving on the weight will happen, but I'm not sure what the design will be. All I know is that the weights will be numbered.
- I'm using 6061 instead of 7075 as it anodizes better and the additional strength 7075 gives isn't worth it and isn't needed.
- The design may change, but nothing dramatic. The changes will be minimal and I doubt everyone will notice.
- The group buy should be open within the next week or two (definitely by the end of July).
- Acrylic diffuser is a maybe.
Yay regular 60%. By any chance will these be hard anodized?
Post by: Butter on Tue, 05 July 2016, 23:32:46
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ugMTgjB.png)
Case:Specs:
- Top (HHKB/Winkeyless/60%)
- Plate
- Brass Weight
- Bottom
Anodizing Colors:
- Full 6061 aluminium case
- Top mounted plate
- Brass weight
- 8 degrees tilt
- HHKB, 60% & Winkeyless top parts
- Supports ISO/Stepped Caps Lock/Split Right Shift
- Engraved weight (design pending)
- 30 cases made
Black, Space Gray, Silver, Gold, Red
Price (ex. fees & shipping):
~$330 for the case
Shipping:
An accurate weight is not known, but it's looking around 3kg. All keyboards will be shipped from the United Kingdom. Shipping will be in a seperate invoice.
PCB compatibility:
This case works with any standard 60% PCB, such as the NerD 60, GH60, b.face etc. I will offer a PCB as an optional component.
Other Notable Stuff:
- The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.
- Everything will be machined at the same factory as the TGR boards, so you can use this to gauge quality.
- Deposits are still in the works, as I'm not sure I want to/need to.
- Engraving on the weight will happen, but I'm not sure what the design will be. All I know is that the weights will be numbered.
- I'm using 6061 instead of 7075 as it anodizes better and the additional strength 7075 gives isn't worth it and isn't needed.
- The design may change, but nothing dramatic. The changes will be minimal and I doubt everyone will notice.
- The group buy should be open within the next week or two (definitely by the end of July).
- Acrylic diffuser is a maybe.
That's really great price. Will be in for HHKB if I can get in.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 July 2016, 01:17:44
Guessing that means I can't get two >.<Maybe, but it depends on how much demand there is.
Do you have estimates for the shipping cost?Not yet as I want to keep it accurate.
I'm in for a 60%. Will I be able to get one unanodized?1. Probably not, why would you? 2. Maybe, depends on if I get any made.
I'll also be getting a steel plate cut for it, any chance you'd share the original vector?
Yay regular 60%. By any chance will these be hard anodized?Working on getting at least one color hard.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 06 July 2016, 01:19:23
Yay regular 60%. By any chance will these be hard anodized?Working on getting at least one color hard.
Space Grey? ;D
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 06 July 2016, 01:36:51
I'm in for a 60%. Will I be able to get one unanodized?1. Probably not, why would you? 2. Maybe, depends on if I get any made.
I'll also be getting a steel plate cut for it, any chance you'd share the original vector?
Because I'm likely to get custom anodizing as I have another project I'm going to have anodized anyhow. It'd be nice to have it raw aluminum rather than strip and reanodize.
Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 06:14:49
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 06 July 2016, 09:15:50
Very interested in space grey, how dark will it be exactly?
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 06 July 2016, 10:16:54
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Post by: oomph on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:03:37
Post by: joey on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:06:43
Will the HHKB case fit the actual HHKBP2 or is it designed to fit an MX-based HHKB layout?The latter.
Post by: romevi on Wed, 06 July 2016, 11:23:56
Will the HHKB case fit the actual HHKBP2 or is it designed to fit an MX-based HHKB layout?The latter.
oomph
Post by: limitz on Wed, 06 July 2016, 12:18:39
I feel like if you want a standard 60%, then you can get that from just about anywhere. Having a good solid case for a HHKB style board is rare, currently the only ones I know of being the Duck Viper and KMAC Happy. This is why the HHKB style should be the first to be made!
Just throwing it out there that a non tray-style 60% is actually quite rare.
Thank you. Only the KMAC Happy & 356 mini that I know of.
One more, LZ-CE.
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 06 July 2016, 12:22:50
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 06 July 2016, 12:40:27
I feel like if you want a standard 60%, then you can get that from just about anywhere. Having a good solid case for a HHKB style board is rare, currently the only ones I know of being the Duck Viper and KMAC Happy. This is why the HHKB style should be the first to be made!
Just throwing it out there that a non tray-style 60% is actually quite rare.
Thank you. Only the KMAC Happy & 356 mini that I know of.
One more, LZ-CE.
LZ-CE is tray-style.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 July 2016, 15:44:13
I'll think about it, not sure how I'd execute it.Because I'm likely to get custom anodizing as I have another project I'm going to have anodized anyhow. It'd be nice to have it raw aluminum rather than strip and reanodize.I'm in for a 60%. Will I be able to get one unanodized?1. Probably not, why would you? 2. Maybe, depends on if I get any made.
I'll also be getting a steel plate cut for it, any chance you'd share the original vector?
So happy I'm in the UK for this one, save a bit on shipping I hope? :DSomewhere in between a Happy and the Apple Space Gray.
Very interested in space grey, how dark will it be exactly?
How soon is soon? I need to start checking if I'll have enough money for everything upcoming in July :)I'd genuinely like to think by the end of the week but allow by the end of the next.
Will the HHKB case fit the actual HHKBP2 or is it designed to fit an MX-based HHKB layout?MX based layout.
One more, LZ-CE.Only top mount option is the KMAC Happy. Non-tray is Happy, 356mini, and the Weaven. LZ-CE is like the Duck 60%, tray mounted.
nicethanks
Post by: Peripheral Prophet on Wed, 06 July 2016, 16:08:46
I need the HHKB case in my life please.
This^
Post by: xondat on Wed, 06 July 2016, 21:00:21
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 06 July 2016, 21:02:50
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 06 July 2016, 23:46:45
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 00:35:04
my currency sucks :(
So does the British Pound so we're in the same boat there :))
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 07 July 2016, 01:25:10
- The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.
Will it be looking like this when it's nickel plated?:
(http://imgur.com/UsYSrdW.jpg)
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 07 July 2016, 01:29:09
That one is a normal brass I think?
- The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.
Will it be looking like this when it's nickel plated?:Show Image(http://imgur.com/UsYSrdW.jpg)
Cause the nickel plated looks more shiny
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 01:38:23
The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.Will it be looking like this when it's nickel plated?:Show Image(http://imgur.com/UsYSrdW.jpg)
No, see the TGR Jane CE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76672) pictures. First is after buffing, and the second is electro nickel plated. I'll definitely be going with buffing.
(http://i.imgur.com/FdqASVT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rMQyrch.jpg)
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 07 July 2016, 01:40:13
The brass weight may be electro nickel plated, but if not they will be polished.Will it be looking like this when it's nickel plated?:Show Image(http://imgur.com/UsYSrdW.jpg)
No, see the TGR Jane CE (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76672) pictures. First is after buffing, and the second is electro nickel plated. I'll definitely be going with buffing.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FdqASVT.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rMQyrch.jpg)
Ohh that looks sexy as well :D
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:02:00
Really hope I can make it in, 30 pieces is super limited.
Certainly there is way more demand for a board like this! =D
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:25:16
Can't wait for the GB!I can't tell at the minute which makes it super hard. I'm not against doing more than 30 though! :))
Really hope I can make it in, 30 pieces is super limited.
Certainly there is way more demand for a board like this! =D
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:26:19
Can't wait for the GB!I can't tell at the minute which makes it super hard. I'm not against doing more than 30 though! :))
Really hope I can make it in, 30 pieces is super limited.
Certainly there is way more demand for a board like this! =D
sounds like we're doing 1000 boiz
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:33:18
This would look sweet as well :)
Just putting ideas out.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:37:13
I wish I had a logo but sticking to model info etc for the weight.Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=78597.0;attach=123975;image)
This would look sweet as well :)
Just putting ideas out.
Post by: joey on Thu, 07 July 2016, 03:22:53
Post by: GiveCandyy on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:22:55
my currency sucks :(
So does the British Pound so we're in the same boat there :))
At one point the British pound was almost 2 Australian dollars. Nice to see things change :)
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:26:46
The 330$ price tag currently, does that include shipping to you?
I think so, he wrote somewhere that the shipping to him was pretty cheap.
Shipping to us will be a lot more ghehe.
Post by: joey on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:34:13
I just asked xondat directly, the $330 includes shipping to him.The 330$ price tag currently, does that include shipping to you?
I think so, he wrote somewhere that the shipping to him was pretty cheap.
Shipping to us will be a lot more ghehe.
I'm in the UK, so shipping shouldn't be too crazy :P
Post by: GiveCandyy on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:43:03
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:44:49
any idea on the wildcard color :pGold, I chose it silently a while ago. However I might change some to make it a bit more vibrant.
Post by: GiveCandyy on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:58:13
Updated the OP to show the most accurate information.any idea on the wildcard color :pGold, I chose it silently a while ago. However I might change some to make it a bit more vibrant.
nice, have you done any prototyping curious to see the actual product, also will sales be done through raffle or something :confused:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 05:11:04
Prototype will be made soon, I don't have the funds at the minute which is why I was throwing the idea of a deposit around.Updated the OP to show the most accurate information.any idea on the wildcard color :pGold, I chose it silently a while ago. However I might change some to make it a bit more vibrant.
nice, have you done any prototyping curious to see the actual product, also will sales be done through raffle or something :confused:
Sales will be done with a form linked in the OP very soon once open.
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 07 July 2016, 07:19:22
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 07 July 2016, 08:25:35
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 17:51:45
I think some talented people should be able to come up with some logo ideas. I will set the bar nice and low. The X is meant to also represent HHKB....if you use your imagination.Quite pretty that. I decided to go with text instead :))
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 07 July 2016, 17:59:31
Post by: romevi on Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:26:58
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:28:22
I haven't been keeping up with this, ashamed as I am to say. Can the case be purchased separately?
I believe $330 is for just the case
Post by: xondat on Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:28:40
I haven't been keeping up with this, ashamed as I am to say. Can the case be purchased separately?The case is the top/plate/weight/bottom.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 07 July 2016, 18:39:53
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:00:33
Post by: Diokhan on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:01:05
Potential 24 hour warning.Hype hype
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Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:06:09
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:30:29
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:34:49
and I'll be working all day. T.T
Me too, 8 hour shift today and tomorrow haha
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 08 July 2016, 11:51:58
and I'll be working all day. T.T
No access to Tapatalk during work hours?
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 08 July 2016, 12:28:47
Potential 24 hour warning.
Did you decide on deposits? Or just a first come first serve reservation list?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 14:24:14
and I'll be working all day. T.T
Me too, 8 hour shift today and tomorrow haha
Work on a Saturday? :'(
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 08 July 2016, 14:26:10
and I'll be working all day. T.TMe too, 8 hour shift today and tomorrow haha
Work on a Saturday? :'(
I've got school all week so I exclusively work weekends :-X
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 14:35:38
Post by: Diokhan on Fri, 08 July 2016, 14:42:49
I'll find a happy little medium for people that can't submit the form on launch but that did support me throughout the thread and development.This guy here 😂
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Post by: romevi on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:31:25
I'll find a happy little medium for people that can't submit the form on launch but that did support me throughout the thread and development.This guy here 😂
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That guy there. 😂
Post by: cmd on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:36:49
I'll find a happy little medium for people that can't submit the form on launch but that did support me throughout the thread and development.
nice
Post by: henz on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:37:46
When this is happening.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:51:35
Great work xondat. Will buy if id geta chance. Will be at a wedding tomorrow, gonna try and go for a "bathroom break"
When this is happening.
Ha! I've done that before.
Post by: henz on Fri, 08 July 2016, 15:57:27
Great work xondat. Will buy if id geta chance. Will be at a wedding tomorrow, gonna try and go for a "bathroom break"
When this is happening.
Ha! I've done that before.
At a wedding? :)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 08 July 2016, 16:11:05
Great work xondat. Will buy if id geta chance. Will be at a wedding tomorrow, gonna try and go for a "bathroom break"
When this is happening.
Ha! I've done that before.
At a wedding? :)
Si.
Post by: kenlee on Fri, 08 July 2016, 18:43:17
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:19:22
wil we have the mounted plate made of stainless material or only aluminum(http://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif)
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:36:10
Post by: kenlee on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:37:50
wil we have the mounted plate made of stainless material or only aluminumShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif)
bravo !! :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 20:47:34
every saturday.
I'll find a happy little medium for people that can't submit the form on launch but that did support me throughout the thread and development.
Bah. That sucks. Still worth submitting. ;D
Post by: WarCommand on Fri, 08 July 2016, 22:52:36
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 23:08:53
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 08 July 2016, 23:18:02
Less than 12 hours.
if you get in, what is the time window to pay the invoice? :p
Post by: xondat on Fri, 08 July 2016, 23:29:53
There is a section in the form dedicated to terms :)Less than 12 hours.
if you get in, what is the time window to pay the invoice? :p
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 08 July 2016, 23:32:00
There is a section in the form dedicated to terms :)Less than 12 hours.
if you get in, what is the time window to pay the invoice? :p
okay, waiting on the form then. :))
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 05:00:53
Post by: GiveCandyy on Sat, 09 July 2016, 05:01:35
6 hours before launch means the 2nd edition announced in the OP ^-^
2am launch for me hype
Post by: Diokhan on Sat, 09 July 2016, 05:03:06
6 hours before launch means the 2nd edition announced in the OP ^-^
ahh carbon o.O
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 09 July 2016, 05:54:19
6 hours before launch means the 2nd edition announced in the OP ^-^
Cool :)
I don't see anything in the OP about the deposit amount?
Are you still going the deposit route?
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 09 July 2016, 09:38:03
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:00:51
6 hours before launch means the 2nd edition announced in the OP ^-^
ahh carbon o.O
Same. I had different plans for this board, but I'll be trying for the carbon.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:09:53
Also, will the form update as soon as carbon sold out?
Or is there an option for a secondary choice incase you miss carbon?
(otherwise picking cabron might decrease chances drastically to get one at all O=)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:19:30
I don't see anything in the OP about the deposit amount?Deposit amount is $50. I am.
Are you still going the deposit route?
Will it be hard anodized?One color should be at least, I'll be seeing what the quality is like in the prototype.
Same. I had different plans for this board, but I'll be trying for the carbon.You can go for both :))
Will the form be here in the IC?Yes, the form will be here.
Also, will the form update as soon as carbon sold out?
Or is there an option for a secondary choice incase you miss carbon?
(otherwise picking cabron might decrease chances drastically to get one at all O=)
You're able to chose with you want priority with if you want both. If you chose carbon priority but it's sold out then it'll go to your original edition choice.
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:36:47
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:38:21
Same. I had different plans for this board, but I'll be trying for the carbon.You can go for both :))
Don't do this to me :-\
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 July 2016, 10:56:50
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:00:31
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:01:32
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:01:51
I did mean to ask: is the weight in the carbon a brass weight with a black finish?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:02:01
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:02:04
Post by: CornCha0s on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:02:30
Post by: alveeno on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:02:37
When will we know which options we won?
Post by: JulienC on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:05:43
Post by: GiveCandyy on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:05:58
guys pls.
Post by: Butter on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:06:40
Post by: fendent on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:07:58
Post by: GiveCandyy on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:09:05
Post by: Proyoyo on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:12:15
Post by: piemancoder on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:12:57
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 11:26:56
Post by: Khers on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:06:15
Post by: slickmamba on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:09:26
sorry
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:13:57
The 3 choices for numbers at the end weren't too clear, wasn't sure if that was some sort of lottery system, or whether you were asking if people wanted to have earlier numbers of the weights. Either way, I'm not bothered about a number on a weight.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:56:05
If you missed out, I may extend it to 40 original editions. Lets see how it goes though. Let me know if there are any issues.
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:57:42
Check order/numbers here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vX52EEvFJ6SqwRU2UnlkIb0nUnhi4y1a6sxP_C-FMuM/edit?usp=sharing)
If you missed out, I may extend it to 40 original editions. Lets see how it goes though. Let me know if there are any issues.
Carbon!!! Thanks so much for putting this together Xondat. Looking forward to putting this thing together.
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:59:07
Check order/numbers here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vX52EEvFJ6SqwRU2UnlkIb0nUnhi4y1a6sxP_C-FMuM/edit?usp=sharing)man you got through those quick. thanks xondat!
If you missed out, I may extend it to 40 original editions. Lets see how it goes though. Let me know if there are any issues.
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 09 July 2016, 12:59:29
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:00:11
Thx xondat! :)
Post by: mrkevint on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:02:26
It'll be cool to see this project progress... The design is top notch.
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:04:09
Post by: Butter on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:13:49
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:16:17
Are those last 3 (that I'm in) reserve spots or something?
Also I see at least 3 duplicate names in there, how is that going to work?The bottom 4 are if someone drops out or if I extend the originals to 40. I was clear that 1 keyboard per form. Why should someone that followed the rules be punished because someone else was late?
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:18:06
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:19:25
Ok, thanks Xondat, here's hoping for that extension to 40 then, or a few drop outs!
Just so you know, I do feel bad about what happened. But people will drop out. I'm sure you'll get one along with the other 3 that missed out!
Post by: scubaste on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:28:47
Post by: Khers on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:39:56
Post by: henz on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:42:03
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 09 July 2016, 13:48:17
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 09 July 2016, 14:39:43
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 16:34:12
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 09 July 2016, 16:37:23
Due to extra demand I'll make 40 original instead of the planned 30.
Yes!
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 09 July 2016, 16:41:02
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Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 16:56:36
Post by: GiveCandyy on Sat, 09 July 2016, 17:13:22
And I think they're all gone.
WORTH STAYING UP
Post by: kenlee on Sat, 09 July 2016, 17:52:38
Could we make a final color decision after hard anodized color is determined.
Thanks your efforts on this GB. :thumb:
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 09 July 2016, 18:01:49
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 09 July 2016, 18:16:12
And I think they're all gone.
It might be a bit premature, but when can we expect invoices for the deposit?
Post by: scubaste on Sat, 09 July 2016, 18:27:43
Due to extra demand I'll make 40 original instead of the planned 30.
Great news! :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 20:39:35
It might be a bit premature, but when can we expect invoices for the deposit?Tomorrow ^-^
FYI, any people that have successful forms are able to change their order up until I order them which is still a while away.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 09 July 2016, 20:46:54
FYI, any people that have successful forms are able to change their order up until I order them which is still a while away.
Oh, awesome. Don't think I'll want to change anything with my selections, but very good to know.
Post by: mrkevint on Sat, 09 July 2016, 20:52:58
It might be a bit premature, but when can we expect invoices for the deposit?Tomorrow ^-^
FYI, any people that have successful forms are able to change their order up until I order them which is still a while away.
Thanks for the heads up with the invoices.
I have a question: what should I do if I want to change my order from a Carbon Edition to Original Edition? The Carbon Edition looks amazing but I am considering a different case color because I already have a black 60%.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 09 July 2016, 21:20:54
I have a question: what should I do if I want to change my order from a Carbon Edition to Original Edition? The Carbon Edition looks amazing but I am considering a different case color because I already have a black 60%.PM me here referencing your number and we'll figure it out from there as it will require some jiggling around. Also means you'll be put to the bottom of the list and risk not getting one if I decide not to remove the limit (I'm considering having no limit on the OE).
Post by: mrkevint on Sat, 09 July 2016, 22:00:23
I have a question: what should I do if I want to change my order from a Carbon Edition to Original Edition? The Carbon Edition looks amazing but I am considering a different case color because I already have a black 60%.PM me here referencing your number and we'll figure it out from there as it will require some jiggling around. Also means you'll be put to the bottom of the list and risk not getting one if I decide not to remove the limit (I'm considering having no limit on the OE).
Thanks for the info.. That's a fair approach to take. In that case, I will stay with the Carbon Edition. Excited for this!
Post by: ipreferpie on Sat, 09 July 2016, 22:52:53
I have a question: what should I do if I want to change my order from a Carbon Edition to Original Edition? The Carbon Edition looks amazing but I am considering a different case color because I already have a black 60%.PM me here referencing your number and we'll figure it out from there as it will require some jiggling around. Also means you'll be put to the bottom of the list and risk not getting one if I decide not to remove the limit (I'm considering having no limit on the OE).
Thanks for the info.. That's a fair approach to take. In that case, I will stay with the Carbon Edition. Excited for this!
Hey Mrkevint, just sent you a PM. I'm happy to switch my position with yours if Xondat allows it :)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 July 2016, 23:14:22
Purrrfect
Post by: nickheller on Sat, 09 July 2016, 23:15:33
9 and 19seal can't use keyboards tho
Purrrfect
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 July 2016, 23:18:17
nice9 and 19seal can't use keyboards tho
Purrrfect
Post by: mrboovn on Sun, 10 July 2016, 00:58:53
Post by: Khers on Sun, 10 July 2016, 08:10:26
Due to extra demand I'll make 40 original instead of the planned 30.Excellent!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 July 2016, 08:54:48
Post by: ipreferpie on Sun, 10 July 2016, 10:09:11
Post by: alveeno on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:48:27
Post by: joey on Sun, 10 July 2016, 11:57:10
Does the case have any open spaces on the back for SMD Led's from the pcb?There should be enough room. But for underglow it won't shine anywhere..
Post by: SixtyLife on Sun, 10 July 2016, 12:18:24
Does the case have any open spaces on the back for SMD Led's from the pcb?There should be enough room. But for underglow it won't shine anywhere..
I think acrylic diffusers were considered but from the original renders it didn't look like there were any holes on the bottom of the case for light to shine through.
I personally don't care for LEDs so hope the bottom stays clean and hole-less (except for screw holes).
maybe a sandwich acrylic layer between the top and bottom of the case at most.
Post by: redbanshee on Sun, 10 July 2016, 12:31:56
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 10 July 2016, 12:56:05
Oh shnap! Thought I was waaay to late to this party! **** yea!! Gold/Gold winkeyless BLING MOTHER****ER!!!
I can't wait to see this haha.
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:05:33
Post by: cmd on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:12:18
Quick question about the plate and case top. Is the plate going to be universal or is it unique to each top case?I believe the plates are universal. I think they have been future proofed as well. I could be wrong about the later.
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Post by: ipreferpie on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:28:22
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:46:22
Quick question about the plate and case top. Is the plate going to be universal or is it unique to each top case?
Plates are universal.
If any acrylic spacer is used, does anyone know if I can use Bluetooth on my GON 60 PCB in terms of transmission and does it have room for a battery?
That'd be a risk you take. I have no idea about the dimensions of the module(s). Acrylic diffuser is a no-go at the minute although I am having a one off created for test purposes.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 July 2016, 13:58:15
If your number is green on the public spreadsheet, congratulations, you got one.
Post by: Diokhan on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:01:12
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Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:03:04
Post by: JulienC on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:04:14
Post by: scubaste on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:23:49
Post by: Khers on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:45:01
Post by: Butter on Sun, 10 July 2016, 14:49:06
Post by: alveeno on Sun, 10 July 2016, 16:38:18
Post by: xondat on Sun, 10 July 2016, 17:00:00
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 10 July 2016, 17:46:22
Post by: xvetter on Sun, 10 July 2016, 18:26:00
Post by: Proyoyo on Mon, 11 July 2016, 03:59:06
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 11 July 2016, 04:19:01
Post by: xondat on Mon, 11 July 2016, 05:57:22
Post by: joey on Mon, 11 July 2016, 06:02:29
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 11 July 2016, 06:11:06
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 11 July 2016, 06:46:43
Extra plates are now available. See notes in the OP for more information.
I was actually considering asking if we could get extra plates :))
Anyone else interested in some ANSI only plates? (I really dislike the ISO cluster on universal plates). Hoping I can get some interest and get a few made as well. (if xondat is up for that)
If ANSI only plates were a option I'd definitely be interested.
Post by: joey on Mon, 11 July 2016, 07:03:02
If ANSI only plates were a option I'd definitely be interested.They'd be more expensive than the extras xondat is offering (since we'd have less). Would you still be interested if they were 30-40$? xondat said we'd need to get around 10+ to make it worthwhile.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 11 July 2016, 07:18:30
Yeah. I'd get one.If ANSI only plates were a option I'd definitely be interested.They'd be more expensive than the extras xondat is offering (since we'd have less). Would you still be interested if they were 30-40$? xondat said we'd need to get around 10+ to make it worthwhile.
Post by: Khers on Mon, 11 July 2016, 07:45:46
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 11 July 2016, 07:48:43
Post by: logomachy on Mon, 11 July 2016, 07:55:19
...
I too would join for an ANSI only plate.
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:07:45
I WOULD still need to be universal for other layouts though, obviously with HHKB style, many people will be using HHKB style split backspace and split right shift for function. So I'm not sure what exactly every means by ANSI plate, specifically.
Post by: joey on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:10:17
I won't be using ISO enter, so I'd be OK with the original editions being ANSI.My idea is to have a universal plate, but ANSI only universal. That ISO enter/ANSI enter cut out is horrendous.
I WOULD still need to be universal for other layouts though, obviously with HHKB style, many people will be using HHKB style split backspace and split right shift for function. So I'm not sure what exactly every means by ANSI plate, specifically.
Please PM me with the details of what ANSI only plate you'd want. Then I can talk to xondat once I've got a better idea of numbers!
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:12:20
I won't be using ISO enter, so I'd be OK with the original editions being ANSI.My idea is to have a universal plate, but ANSI only universal. That ISO enter/ANSI enter cut out is horrendous.
I WOULD still need to be universal for other layouts though, obviously with HHKB style, many people will be using HHKB style split backspace and split right shift for function. So I'm not sure what exactly every means by ANSI plate, specifically.
Please PM me with the details of what ANSI only plate you'd want. Then I can talk to xondat once I've got a better idea of numbers!
What would you do about the left shift? Iso left shift is used by some people to get a Fn key on your little finger.
Post by: joey on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:14:06
That's why I want people to PM me what they want so I can get a feel for what people want. But split left shift doesn't make things uncomfortably ugly, so could be added.I won't be using ISO enter, so I'd be OK with the original editions being ANSI.My idea is to have a universal plate, but ANSI only universal. That ISO enter/ANSI enter cut out is horrendous.
I WOULD still need to be universal for other layouts though, obviously with HHKB style, many people will be using HHKB style split backspace and split right shift for function. So I'm not sure what exactly every means by ANSI plate, specifically.
Please PM me with the details of what ANSI only plate you'd want. Then I can talk to xondat once I've got a better idea of numbers!
What would you do about the left shift? Iso left shift is used by some people to get a Fn key on your little finger.
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:18:49
Post by: joey on Mon, 11 July 2016, 08:21:04
You would still need to buy the one universal plate from xondat. If this went through, you could buy additional ANSIversal plates.
Post by: WCO1 on Mon, 11 July 2016, 09:04:44
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 11 July 2016, 10:42:31
Also, PM inbound about an additional plate/pcb.
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 11 July 2016, 10:48:26
Post by: xondat on Mon, 11 July 2016, 14:37:13
It was mentioned on page 3 that switch moddable plates were a definite but as the thread progressed, it seems as though that option was removed from the description. Is that still on the table or was that removed to minimize overall production costs?
All plates will allow switch modding.
Post by: kenlee on Tue, 12 July 2016, 04:29:28
Post by: infiniti on Tue, 12 July 2016, 05:15:18
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 July 2016, 09:35:17
Moved to GB sub-forum. GLWGB! :thumb:Thanks!
Quick question the bottom case will have notch to put non-slip pad?I most likely will have the notches added yes.
Post by: TieuNgu on Tue, 12 July 2016, 11:42:26
Post by: romevi on Tue, 12 July 2016, 11:57:27
what are the numbers in the second column of the spreadsheet?
More
125
25
22
1348
118
982
123
10
19
364
218
14
52
83
1228
1383
52
14
1759
13
729
255
74
12
69
56
729
146
1759
1348
4085
16
43
159
146
207
816
42
1058
196
164
432
1
3388
376
1565
32
167
99
2456
winkeyless
27
13
163
163
67
1205
183
25
22
1348
118
982
123
10
19
364
218
14
52
83
1228
1383
52
14
1759
13
729
255
74
12
69
56
729
146
1759
1348
4085
16
43
159
146
207
816
42
1058
196
164
432
1
3388
376
1565
32
167
99
2456
winkeyless
27
13
163
163
67
1205
183
Post by: JulienC on Tue, 12 July 2016, 11:58:11
what are the numbers in the second column of the spreadsheet?
It looks like post count on GH.
Post by: Vaun on Tue, 12 July 2016, 12:16:16
Post by: duhhey on Tue, 12 July 2016, 13:45:51
Post by: xondat on Tue, 12 July 2016, 15:17:01
Form (http://goo.gl/forms/t5kbGeblOqFvJqWE2)
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 12 July 2016, 17:48:38
There are a few spots available for original editions so I've opened the form up. I'm going to give it 48 hours and then randomly select who the spots go to.
Form (http://goo.gl/forms/t5kbGeblOqFvJqWE2)
Submitted. hopefully I can get the spots
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 July 2016, 15:18:46
There are a few spots available for original editions so I've opened the form up. I'm going to give it 48 hours and then randomly select who the spots go to.
Form (http://goo.gl/forms/t5kbGeblOqFvJqWE2)
24 hour left.
Post by: manofinterests on Wed, 13 July 2016, 16:18:57
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 13 July 2016, 17:20:22
Here's to hoping I get in for an HHKB Spot! :)
There are a handful of us in California already. We should start a club.
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 13 July 2016, 18:19:07
Here's to hoping I get in for an HHKB Spot! :)
There are a handful of us in California already. We should start a club.
count me in
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 13 July 2016, 19:25:20
Here's to hoping I get in for an HHKB Spot! :)
There are a handful of us in California already. We should start a club.
count me in
Oh snap, LBC Carbon Edition Club. Maybe we should combine shipping for some tiny savings :P
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 13 July 2016, 21:41:08
Here's to hoping I get in for an HHKB Spot! :)
There are a handful of us in California already. We should start a club.
count me in
Oh snap, LBC Carbon Edition Club. Maybe we should combine shipping for some tiny savings :P
I got a buddy that actually got into this groupbuy as well, it'd be pretty neat to save save a couple of bucks
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 13 July 2016, 22:02:51
I would like to know before I pick out what color I want for my extra plate .
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 13 July 2016, 22:26:18
Post by: SevenU on Thu, 14 July 2016, 13:46:57
Depending on how busy I am, I may be able to proxy if shipping ends up being crazy expensive.This would be nice for people in US if it could cut shipping price by a bit.
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Post by: cmd on Thu, 14 July 2016, 13:52:02
Depending on how busy I am, I may be able to proxy if shipping ends up being crazy expensive.
I second this. I feel as if it would greatly cut down on shipping costs.
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 14 July 2016, 21:34:20
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 14 July 2016, 21:36:58
Just checked order lists, and my name is not there, despite already filled form 3 days ago :d
I think order forms were randomly selected
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 14 July 2016, 22:06:46
Just checked order lists, and my name is not there, despite already filled form 3 days ago :d
I think order forms were randomly selected
Random, really? I am sad panda :d
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 14 July 2016, 22:11:40
Just checked order lists, and my name is not there, despite already filled form 3 days ago :d
I think order forms were randomly selected
Random, really? I am sad panda :d
You even quoted xondat's post where he said it would be random.
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 14 July 2016, 22:18:39
Post by: GiveCandyy on Thu, 14 July 2016, 22:24:11
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 14 July 2016, 22:45:34
what is this second edition :eek:
I'm guessing it's just for those of us that didn't get into the original 30 and won't have engraving or number or something.
Post by: SevenU on Thu, 14 July 2016, 23:10:08
Well, yeah I did. I am just unlucky I guess.I'm not sure, but it still looks like there's fours slots left.
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Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 July 2016, 11:53:42
- I've extended the standard edition to 30 Original Editions and 30 others, name is pending.
- This means 10 new spots, and with the 2 left over from the originals that means 12. I've assigned 8 of these already to friends, people that I have seen around, and a couple randoms.
- The 4 other spots may be assigned to people that have submitted a form, but as before I can't allow everyone due to limitations. I'm up to 70 which is an insane number.
- Second Edition is just a placeholder name for now. I want to keep the original 30 as I really want the engraving 6/30 and this was the original plan.
Post by: Diokhan on Fri, 15 July 2016, 12:05:42
Didn't provide an update yesterday because I was taking care of some other stuff, so here it is today:The update that applies to everyone is that: I'm awaiting new quotes for the now 70 from the factory, and I'm also waiting for conformation that we're good to go on the production of the 3 prototypes. The email was sent on the 13th and I'm expecting numbers on the 18th.
- I've extended the standard edition to 30 Original Editions and 30 others, name is pending.
- This means 10 new spots, and with the 2 left over from the originals that means 12. I've assigned 8 of these already to friends, people that I have seen around, and a couple randoms.
- The 4 other spots may be assigned to people that have submitted a form, but as before I can't allow everyone due to limitations. I'm up to 70 which is an insane number.
- Second Edition is just a placeholder name for now. I want to keep the original 30 as I really want the engraving 6/30 and this was the original plan.
Hey thanks for the update!
Will the color samples be coming with the prototype? :)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 July 2016, 13:48:05
Will the color samples be coming with the prototype? :)The majority of colors, yes. I am getting one hard anodized instead of the regular anodizing however.
Post by: kenlee on Fri, 15 July 2016, 20:21:08
Will the color samples be coming with the prototype? :)The majority of colors, yes. I am getting one hard anodized instead of the regular anodizing however.
It sounds great and what color of hard anodized you ask for factoy.
Post by: PriusProblems on Sun, 17 July 2016, 15:42:11
Post by: Diokhan on Sun, 17 July 2016, 15:49:24
Will the colour samples be shown before the group buy is over? I'm on the fence about purchasing a case, but if the colours are just right then I may have to.I think they will be made in same factory as the tgr Jane. So you can check those colors
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 17 July 2016, 16:04:53
It sounds great and what color of hard anodized you ask for factoy.Dark Gray.
Will the colour samples be shown before the group buy is over? I'm on the fence about purchasing a case, but if the colours are just right then I may have to.The color samples will be available as soon as I get them. I won't take the remainder of peoples payments before colors and the prototypes are shown.
I think they will be made in same factory as the tgr Jane. So you can check those colorsAlthough made in the same factory as the TGR, colors are not accurate to mine.
For color references of what I want:
- Black - Black/Jane CE
- Dark Gray - KMAC Happy Dark Gray
- Silver - iPhone 6s
- Gold - iPhone 6s
- Red - KMAC Happy Red
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7696/16963345897_649b6f7fab_b.jpg)
(http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2016/01/iphone-6s-colors-800x586.jpg)
Post by: brighenne on Sun, 17 July 2016, 16:10:15
Will the colour samples be shown before the group buy is over? I'm on the fence about purchasing a case, but if the colours are just right then I may have to.
Maybe enough people will drop out, but I believe all spots are taken.
Post by: SevenU on Sun, 17 July 2016, 17:22:13
Yeah, tried joining in on the second round of it, but I don't believe I got in on it (or I didnt see the e-mail). Very sad about it because I wanted it to be my first custom.Will the colour samples be shown before the group buy is over? I'm on the fence about purchasing a case, but if the colours are just right then I may have to.
Maybe enough people will drop out, but I believe all spots are taken.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 17 July 2016, 17:34:10
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 17 July 2016, 17:48:05
There are still 4 spots available that I have no idea what I'm doing with. Maybe charity auctions, maybe giveaways - who knows. For the people that didn't get in: it's highly likely that a few spots will become available as others cannot pay. These will be given out first come, first serve to others that have already filled in a form. If you're in, your name is on the public spreadsheet. If it isn't, then you didn't. I'm sure if I get this right then there will be future rounds and/or editions.
If people drop out of the first 30, will us in the 'above 30' groups get bumped up to get a numbered one?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 17 July 2016, 17:57:16
Correct. There will be no transferring of places as I feel its unfair. For example, if #10 drops out, the first Second Edition will be moved to #10.There are still 4 spots available that I have no idea what I'm doing with. Maybe charity auctions, maybe giveaways - who knows. For the people that didn't get in: it's highly likely that a few spots will become available as others cannot pay. These will be given out first come, first serve to others that have already filled in a form. If you're in, your name is on the public spreadsheet. If it isn't, then you didn't. I'm sure if I get this right then there will be future rounds and/or editions.If people drop out of the first 30, will us in the 'above 30' groups get bumped up to get a numbered one?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 18 July 2016, 06:00:08
Post by: xondat on Mon, 18 July 2016, 07:19:30
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 18 July 2016, 09:37:13
I should be getting final confirmation and an invoice tomorrow for the prototypes. Lead time is ~2 weeks, and with shipping it'll be about the 8th or so.
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing the proto's :thumb:
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 18 July 2016, 09:44:43
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Post by: SevenU on Mon, 18 July 2016, 11:13:26
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Post by: PriusProblems on Mon, 18 July 2016, 11:53:27
There are still 4 spots available that I have no idea what I'm doing with. Maybe charity auctions, maybe giveaways - who knows. For the people that didn't get in: it's highly likely that a few spots will become available as others cannot pay. These will be given out first come, first serve to others that have already filled in a form. If you're in, your name is on the public spreadsheet. If it isn't, then you didn't. I'm sure if I get this right then there will be future rounds and/or editions.
Okay, I might just wait for a future round anyway. Would the cases in future rounds be pretty much identical (i.e. the simple wedge shape) to these ones?
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 18 July 2016, 14:22:06
Post by: deduction on Mon, 18 July 2016, 20:46:43
Late to the party, but filled out a form :)
Same! Really hope i'm not too late.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 July 2016, 09:51:24
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 20 July 2016, 11:16:41
The 3 prototypes have been paid for. A estimation/guideline figure is 2 weeks for production and 1 more for shipment. I'll get more accurate numbers soon as they are available.awesome. thanks for the update :thumb:
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 20 July 2016, 17:43:18
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 20 July 2016, 18:15:46
Can anyone clarify what are the bottom rows possible with the hhkb top plate? Is it just 1-1.5-7-1.5-1, and 1.25-1.25-6.25-1.25-1.25-1.25?I would guess just 1-1.5-7-1.5-1 with the blockers covering 1.5 on each side
Post by: xondat on Wed, 20 July 2016, 18:18:35
Can anyone clarify what are the bottom rows possible with the hhkb top plate? Is it just 1-1.5-7-1.5-1, and 1.25-1.25-6.25-1.25-1.25-1.25?
(http://i.imgur.com/OcNkvzj.png)
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 20 July 2016, 20:33:52
Can anyone clarify what are the bottom rows possible with the hhkb top plate? Is it just 1-1.5-7-1.5-1, and 1.25-1.25-6.25-1.25-1.25-1.25?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OcNkvzj.png)
Got it thank you. So HHKB top should only be compatible with the 1-1.5-7 set up.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 20 July 2016, 22:12:43
Do we know yet for sure if there will be a ANSI only plate option available for the extra plates?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 07:43:57
Hey xondat,The problem with having two plate designs is that instead of 6 options, there are 12. It makes it more complicated and more expensive. Once I get the prototypes and build one, I'll see if I think it's worth making dedicated plates.
Do we know yet for sure if there will be a ANSI only plate option available for the extra plates?
What benefits would an ANSI only plate give over the universal plate? I think I know why but would love to get your opinion too.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 11:03:38
Also, are you still planning to run a buy for a 75% in this style after this one?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:01:18
Can't brass be anodized, or why was it changed to aluminum?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:17:49
Also, are you still planning to run a buy for a 75% in this style after this one?Yes, if everything goes well then expect around September. Funds from this buy are being used to prototype that too.
I just noticed that the first post updated to list the carbon edition weights as black anodized aluminum. Is there any chance I could swap it for brass or buy a separate brass weight? My preference is the heavier the better.
Can't brass be anodized, or why was it changed to aluminum?Brass nor stainless steel can be anodized which is why it's aluminum. I'm having second thoughts about though so I will either:
- Keep it how it is
- Delete the weight cutout
- Give the option to purchase an additional weight (brass)
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:34:39
I just noticed that the first post updated to list the carbon edition weights as black anodized aluminum. Is there any chance I could swap it for brass or buy a separate brass weight? My preference is the heavier the better.Can't brass be anodized, or why was it changed to aluminum?Brass nor stainless steel can be anodized which is why it's aluminum. I'm having second thoughts about though so I will either:I'll contact all the people down for a carbon edition once I know if I'll make any changes.
- Keep it how it is
- Delete the weight cutout
- Give the option to purchase an additional weight (brass)
From a design perspective, it seems very odd to make a cut out just to replace it with the exact same material in the exact same finish. Defeats the purpose of adding the weight and just adds to the machining cost for no functional benefit and very little aesthetic benefit. That is, if it's going to be black anodized aluminum anyway, leave it as one solid piece. That seems to betray the premium nature of the carbon edition, though.
That said, I understand the all black aesthetic you're looking for, so I'd probably suggest another finishing method for a brass or stainless weight. Powder coat, cerakote, and black chrome plating all come to mind.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:39:55
Black Chrome Plating sounds tastyI just noticed that the first post updated to list the carbon edition weights as black anodized aluminum. Is there any chance I could swap it for brass or buy a separate brass weight? My preference is the heavier the better.Can't brass be anodized, or why was it changed to aluminum?Brass nor stainless steel can be anodized which is why it's aluminum. I'm having second thoughts about though so I will either:I'll contact all the people down for a carbon edition once I know if I'll make any changes.
- Keep it how it is
- Delete the weight cutout
- Give the option to purchase an additional weight (brass)
From a design perspective, it seems very odd to make a cut out just to replace it with the exact same material in the exact same finish. Defeats the purpose of adding the weight and just adds to the machining cost for no functional benefit and very little aesthetic benefit. That is, if it's going to be black anodized aluminum anyway, leave it as one solid piece. That seems to betray the premium nature of the carbon edition, though.
That said, I understand the all black aesthetic you're looking for, so I'd probably suggest another finishing method for a brass or stainless weight. Powder coat, cerakote, and black chrome plating all come to mind.
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Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 12:48:35
- From a design perspective, it seems very odd to make a cut out just to replace it with the exact same material in the exact same finish. Defeats the purpose of adding the weight and just adds to the machining cost for no functional benefit and very little aesthetic benefit.
- That is, if it's going to be black anodized aluminum anyway, leave it as one solid piece. That seems to betray the premium nature of the carbon edition, though.
- That said, I understand the all black aesthetic you're looking for, so I'd probably suggest another finishing method for a brass or stainless weight. Powder coat, cerakote, and black chrome plating all come to mind.
- Absolutely agree with you on this.
- This is why I haven't already made the switch, there needs to be something more than just the plate.
- The only problem with having two different finishes is that it won't be the same.
Post by: mrkevint on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:05:03
- From a design perspective, it seems very odd to make a cut out just to replace it with the exact same material in the exact same finish. Defeats the purpose of adding the weight and just adds to the machining cost for no functional benefit and very little aesthetic benefit.
- That is, if it's going to be black anodized aluminum anyway, leave it as one solid piece. That seems to betray the premium nature of the carbon edition, though.
- That said, I understand the all black aesthetic you're looking for, so I'd probably suggest another finishing method for a brass or stainless weight. Powder coat, cerakote, and black chrome plating all come to mind.
Perhaps having a weight that is just inside would make more sense? You get the aesthetic of a blacked out case but still get the weight of the weight inside.
- Absolutely agree with you on this.
- This is why I haven't already made the switch, there needs to be something more than just the plate.
- The only problem with having two different finishes is that it won't be the same.
Personally, I would like to have the weight be visible. Maybe you could use a stainless steel weight to differentiate the Carbon Edition from the Original Edition? I think that the silver color would be a nice contrast from the black case. Or is it your goal to have everything blacked out?
Will the Carbon Edition and Original Edition's black color be the same?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:15:31
I wouldn't mind going with a different finish like powder coated at all tho.
Mixed black finishes can look really well imo like mixing flat and glossy surfaces.
Other finish options like nickel plating would be awesome aswell , and while not being blacked out maintain a color neutral aesthetic.
I personally would prefer ditching the full blackout if it is in favor of a more premium solution.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:25:34
I think going no weight cutout or non visible from the outside would feel like a downgrade of the carbon version compared to the original.
I wouldn't mind going with a different finish like powder coated at all tho.
Mixed black finishes can look really well imo like mixing flat and glossy surfaces.
Other finish options like nickel plating would be awesome aswell , and while not being blacked out maintain a color neutral aesthetic.
I personally would prefer ditching the full blackout if it is in favor of a more premium solution.
I agree on all points here. In particular, a gloss black weight on the media blasted anodized case would look quite nice, I think.
Or if you're set on one uniform finish, I guess we just need to do the whole thing in black chrome :) (edit-I know this is unrealistic because black chrome plating is $$$)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:32:15
Personally, I would like to have the weight be visible. Maybe you could use a stainless steel weight to differentiate the Carbon Edition from the Original Edition? I think that the silver color would be a nice contrast from the black case. Or is it your goal to have everything blacked out?A Stainless Steel weight instead of the black aluminum weight could work, I like the idea of the contrast. The original idea was to have blackout but this could also work.
Will the Carbon Edition and Original Edition's black color be the same?
The black colors are the same.
- I think going no weight cutout or non visible from the outside would feel like a downgrade of the carbon version compared to the original.
- I wouldn't mind going with a different finish like powder coated at all tho.
Mixed black finishes can look really well imo like mixing flat and glossy surfaces.- Other finish options like nickel plating would be awesome aswell , and while not being blacked out maintain a color neutral aesthetic.
- I personally would prefer ditching the full blackout if it is in favor of a more premium solution.
- I agree, I don't want make the flagship anything less than the standard models.
- The different finishes would bug me infinitely and I'm not sure I'd be alright with this.
- I think a stainless steel weight would be of highest priority if material/finish changes.
- I think it's a worthy sacrifice to have something more premium rather than matching colors.
Or if you're set on one uniform finish, I guess we just need to do the whole thing in black chrome :) (edit-I know this is unrealistic because black chrome plating is $$$)This would cost far too much to be reasonable, plus the aesthetic would be something that I don't want.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 16:55:34
Personally, I would probably want to switch from carbon to an original/standard if my only option is the aluminum 'weight'...and I was ecstatic when I found out that I had gotten Carbon #1.
As an aside, what do you mean by purple sliders in your WTB post? Zealios or novatouch?
Post by: mrkevint on Thu, 21 July 2016, 17:39:03
It sounds like the SS weight is the best option for everyone. Is the only deterrent the desire for blackout, or are there cost/manufacturing/other concerns?
Personally, I would probably want to switch from carbon to an original/standard if my only option is the aluminum 'weight'...and I was ecstatic when I found out that I had gotten Carbon #1.
As an aside, what do you mean by purple sliders in your WTB post? Zealios or novatouch?
Yeah I think that a stainless steel weight with an interesting finish would be ideal.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that xondat is looking for the purple sliders that come with a factory silenced Realforce. The sliders are slightly longer than the stock ones to accommodate the silencing rings without detracting from the tactility. I want to get some for my HHKB but I can't justify buying a Realforce just for them lol.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 18:40:11
It sounds like the SS weight is the best option for everyone. Is the only deterrent the desire for blackout, or are there cost/manufacturing/other concerns?Price probably will go up due to the low volume of SS weights, but I will check.
Personally, I would probably want to switch from carbon to an original/standard if my only option is the aluminum 'weight'...and I was ecstatic when I found out that I had gotten Carbon #1.
As an aside, what do you mean by purple sliders in your WTB post? Zealios or novatouch?
Purple sliders are the stems found in a silenced Realforce board - the stems are slightly longer than normal to accommodate for the silencing ring, therefore keeping travel the same distance as stock.
I will message everyone that is down for a carbon edition and ask if the change is okay with everyone.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 21 July 2016, 20:19:18
Stainless could be pretty nice in terms of aesthetics.
However even stainless steel is not fully rust proof depending on the kind of steel, finish etc.
I've seen surface rust on stainless before so I'm slightly scared to vote for raw stainless.
In adition stainless is still less heavy then brass.
Brass is actually really nice but wouldn't make the carbon edition stand out enough compared to original.
In my opinion the only real solution would be to go for nickel plated brass or something similar.
Nickel plating was actually considered a while ago, and this way there wouldn't be any downsides.
You would get color neutral stainless like asthetics, no risk of rust, same wait as brass and an overall very premium feel.
Even if it increases carbon prices it would honestly feel like the best choice to me, since it's supposed to be the premium edition.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 21 July 2016, 20:29:19
I'm still uncertain which option to chose tbh.
Stainless could be pretty nice in terms of aesthetics.
However even stainless steel is not fully rust proof depending on the kind of steel, finish etc.
I've seen surface rust on stainless before so I'm slightly scared to vote for raw stainless.
In adition stainless is still less heavy then brass.
Brass is actually really nice but wouldn't make the carbon edition stand out enough compared to original.
In my opinion the only real solution would be to go for nickel plated brass or something similar.
Nickel plating was actually considered a while ago, and this way there wouldn't be any downsides.
You would get color neutral stainless like asthetics, no risk of rust, same wait as brass and an overall very premium feel.
Even if it increases carbon prices it would honestly feel like the best choice to me, since it's supposed to be the premium edition.
I wouldn't mind paying extra to maintain the premium feel of the Carbon edition as well.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 21 July 2016, 20:30:24
- However even stainless steel is not fully rust proof depending on the kind of steel, finish etc.
- In adition stainless is still less heavy then brass.
- In my opinion the only real solution would be to go for nickel plated brass or something similar.
Nickel plating was actually considered a while ago, and this way there wouldn't be any downsides.
- I'll speak to the factory about this.
- The weight difference isn't that much 818g (SS) vs 867g (Brass) (6061 is 267g).
- Nickel plating was considered but I was persuaded by yuktsi to not do it as the result isn't as nice as anyone would want.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:12:28
I can't imagine corrosion is a huge concern sitting on a desk unless you live near an ocean and you frequently have your windows open. You could go with 316 stainless and be virtually worry free, I would think.
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:23:51
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:28:13
isn't the carbon fiber plate the main differentiator anyways? can't imagine people being upset at having a brass weight like some filthy commoner
I expect nothing less than a solid gold weight
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:32:14
isn't the carbon fiber plate the main differentiator anyways? can't imagine people being upset at having a brass weight like some filthy commoner
I expect nothing less than a solid gold weight
It's supposed to be a neutral color. Platinum is the clear solution.
Post by: cmd on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:33:13
isn't the carbon fiber plate the main differentiator anyways? can't imagine people being upset at having a brass weight like some filthy commonerFilthy commoner.... Bahahahahah idk why I thought that statement was so funny
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Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 21 July 2016, 22:37:06
Hey xondat,The problem with having two plate designs is that instead of 6 options, there are 12. It makes it more complicated and more expensive. Once I get the prototypes and build one, I'll see if I think it's worth making dedicated plates.
Do we know yet for sure if there will be a ANSI only plate option available for the extra plates?
What benefits would an ANSI only plate give over the universal plate? I think I know why but would love to get your opinion too.
The main reason I like ANSI only plates is because it looks a little cleaner without the extra hole for the ISO enter.
If it doesn't happen it's not that big of a deal, but I would definitely get one if they are available.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 23 July 2016, 13:16:13
Carbon Edition weights will be changing to stainless steel from black aluminum.
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 23 July 2016, 13:23:38
Post by: mrkevint on Sat, 23 July 2016, 14:43:11
Post by: xondat on Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:34:29
- All holders of Carbon Editions would rather a stainless steel weight so that's been changed.
- I probably won't allow extra weights per order for CEs as each weight is engraved and it would **** it up.
- I've changed the name of the Original Edition to Founders Edition.
- Name for the Second Edition is still unknown and will probably change because I can't make my mind up.
- The name X60 may change to work in the future better (but I have no idea so it's unlikely [X60 is hard to pronounce for me which is what prompted me thinking of changing it]).
- Infact I might change the whole naming scheme because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- ANSI plates might happen but in very limited colors with minimum quantities needing to be met. Same with half plates. Both of these plates cannot be the main option but rather an additional plate.
- Logos are still in the making but the last person that was helping went silent so waiting for mockups from someone new.
Post by: Fictiouz on Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:56:46
Post by: shangrila500 on Sat, 23 July 2016, 21:01:48
Would've loved to get in on this xondat. Looks great keep up the good work!
As would I. Sadly it seems like all the spots are filled. We can always hope that someone wants to sell their kit later or wants to sell their spot.
Post by: SevenU on Sun, 24 July 2016, 01:01:26
He doesn't allow selling spots it's just hoping you move up the list.Would've loved to get in on this xondat. Looks great keep up the good work!
As would I. Sadly it seems like all the spots are filled. We can always hope that someone wants to sell their kit later or wants to sell their spot.
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Post by: Malenky on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:10:16
Have you thought about simply calling it the "Xondat 60"? It's future proof because if you come out with a 75% or whatever, you can just call it the Xondat 75.
Post by: joey on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:13:21
Post by: xondat on Sun, 24 July 2016, 08:40:15
Have you thought about simply calling it the "Xondat 60"? It's future proof because if you come out with a 75% or whatever, you can just call it the Xondat 75.I don't want to put my name on it. X## is future proof as I can do X75, X65 etc. However when I have different editions it does get quite messy.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:40:01
Have you thought about simply calling it the "Xondat 60"? It's future proof because if you come out with a 75% or whatever, you can just call it the Xondat 75.I don't want to put my name on it. X## is future proof as I can do X75, X65 etc. However when I have different editions it does get quite messy.
You can always make it like X60 Carbon Edition or X60-CE, or X60 Founders Edition or X60-FE. :)
Post by: brighenne on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:41:13
Post by: xondat on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:43:26
I already see the X as standing for Xondat. I like the idea of calling them X60C, X60F, X60S(tandard/second?).Pretty much what I've been thinking but I'd rather it be _____ 60C/60 etc.
Post by: logomachy on Sun, 24 July 2016, 11:49:32
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Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 July 2016, 23:02:16
I prefer to not have his full username on the weight! X60 is better than Xondat 60.This
You can come up with a neat acronym like KMACAnd this
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Post by: redbanshee on Sun, 24 July 2016, 23:26:45
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Post by: brighenne on Mon, 25 July 2016, 01:33:47
You can come up with a neat acronym like KMAC
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Xondat Mania Attic Craft.
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 25 July 2016, 03:57:33
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 25 July 2016, 05:32:41
Hi, how about cars metaphor, like 356 and 456?I already see the X as standing for Xondat. I like the idea of calling them X60C, X60F, X60S(tandard/second?).Pretty much what I've been thinking but I'd rather it be _____ 60C/60 etc.
I like "mini coper" because of British small size and brass elements? )))))
Post by: xondat on Mon, 25 July 2016, 05:40:51
You can come up with a neat acronym like KMACAh yes, the **** 60. It will go down as the best named, at least.
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Hi, how about cars metaphor, like 356 and 456?I'd prefer Mclaren over Mini ;)
I like "mini coper" because of British small size and brass elements? )))))
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 25 July 2016, 05:44:36
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 25 July 2016, 05:50:07
I think Mclaren is the great name for 80% board )))You can come up with a neat acronym like KMACAh yes, the **** 60. It will go down as the best named, at least.
Finest UK Custom KeyboardsHi, how about cars metaphor, like 356 and 456?I'd prefer Mclaren over Mini ;)
I like "mini coper" because of British small size and brass elements? )))))
Post by: xondat on Mon, 25 July 2016, 18:02:12
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I think Mclaren is the great name for 80% board )))Haha, the Mclaren naming convention not just Mclaren.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 25 July 2016, 19:09:48
- Now that prototypes have been paid for, no refunds can be made until further notice.
- I have reached out to our middleman for updates on production and new quotes.
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 26 July 2016, 23:58:23
Post by: xondat on Thu, 28 July 2016, 06:53:04
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 28 July 2016, 07:11:58
I've been told I'll get progress pictures and the final quote tomorrow.Hype hype hype
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Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 01 August 2016, 07:03:06
I've been told I'll get progress pictures and the final quote tomorrow.
Did you get the pictures? :D
Post by: xondat on Mon, 01 August 2016, 08:22:31
The factory didn't take any, so no.I've been told I'll get progress pictures and the final quote tomorrow.
Did you get the pictures? :D
Post by: alveeno on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:30:12
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:40:50
Has carbon edition always been SS case?
No, it should still be a black anodized aluminum case. What you're seeing is an artifact of what used to be there. It previously read black aluminum weight and case and only the material got updated in that line when it was decided to switch to a stainless weight.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 August 2016, 12:41:57
Changed it :confused:Has carbon edition always been SS case?
No, it should still be a black anodized aluminum case. What you're seeing is an artifact of what used to be there. It previously read black aluminum weight and case and only the material got updated in that line when it was decided to switch to a stainless weight.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 02 August 2016, 15:22:01
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 August 2016, 16:39:43
So to be clear.........this is closed for entry?All production spots are accounted for, but you're welcome to submit an application and see what happens.
Post by: alveeno on Tue, 02 August 2016, 16:54:59
Ah, okay. I got confused when I saw it said SS for a sec, I was like wait wut :PChanged it :confused:Has carbon edition always been SS case?
No, it should still be a black anodized aluminum case. What you're seeing is an artifact of what used to be there. It previously read black aluminum weight and case and only the material got updated in that line when it was decided to switch to a stainless weight.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 August 2016, 20:34:36
- Prototypes enter production this week and should be done by mid August.
- Carbon plates and stainless steel weights (maybe) will be made in a different factory.
- Unfortunately I was misquoted originally (brass is expensive), which most likely means there will be a small raise in price for the non-carbon boards and a decent increase for carbon editions. The amount has not been decided yet. All I know is that the price gap between the two types will be bigger.
- Half plates aren't financially viable to offer to everyone. Maybe in the future but nothing additional will be available.
- Going to ask about having custom coloured PCBs, any suggestions on colours?
- Name is staying as X60, I've finally figured out my naming convention for all my projects.
- I'm working on getting a graphics designer to help me with logos and branding so expect stuff soon.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 20:36:03
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 02 August 2016, 21:38:00
- Unfortunately I was misquoted originally (brass is expensive), which most likely means there will be a small raise in price for the non-carbon boards and a decent increase for carbon editions. The amount has not been decided yet. All I know is that the price gap between the two types will be bigger.
Mind elaborating on the decent increase for the carbon editions? As the carbon boards are to include SS weights, I'm unsure as to why the larger gap in price.
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 00:00:14
- Unfortunately I was misquoted originally (brass is expensive), which most likely means there will be a small raise in price for the non-carbon boards and a decent increase for carbon editions. The amount has not been decided yet. All I know is that the price gap between the two types will be bigger.
Mind elaborating on the decent increase for the carbon editions? As the carbon boards are to include SS weights, I'm unsure as to why the larger gap in price.
Same question. I'm assuming it's because steel is more difficult to machine and as such will cost more to have fabricated. I'm not too keen on paying a large price differential for stainless as I don't really see it as a more premium solution to brass as far as function (and, one could argue, is slightly inferior at it's intended function) aside from a desire for a monochromatic look.
I wasn't really under the impression that the prices in the first post were fluid since I don't think they were ever listed as preliminary or subject to change.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 August 2016, 07:12:44
A one sentence summary would be: FE/Standard use two materials (1 cheap, and 1 expensive), and Carbon uses three materials (1 cheap, 1 quite expensive, and 1 expensive). Before the weight material change only two materials were used.
To start of, a scale of cost of material:
- Aluminium - cheapest and easiest to work with.
- Brass - considerably more expensive and is a softer material.
- Stainless steel - the most expensive and the hardest material.
- Carbon fibre - quite expensive and difficult to work with.
Colours do not matter - only quantity, material and part. I am not accounting for extras to keep it easy to explain.
- 250 70 aluminium bottoms - this is the only thing that stays the same.
- 300 70 aluminium top parts (combined) - these cost slightly more due to the differences, but they are priced together.
- 150 60 aluminium & stainless steel plates - this covers the non-carbon editions.
- 300 60 brass weights - expensive material, high quantity and easy to work with.
- 250 10 carbon plates - low amount, expensive material.
- 400 10 stainless steel weights - expensive material, low quantity and hard to work with.
- FE/Standard - 250 + 300 + 150 + 300 = 1000
- Carbon - 250 + 300 + 250 + 400 = 1200
Hopefully this explains everything.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 03 August 2016, 15:56:34
Especially considering Carbon Edition. =)
Post by: maximm on Wed, 03 August 2016, 16:45:10
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:04:23
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:22:23
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:28:53
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:31:58
These figures are completely made up but they should help explain why it will costs more. Everything is put super simply on purpose to make it easy to understand.
A one sentence summary would be: FE/Standard use two materials (1 cheap, and 1 expensive), and Carbon uses three materials (1 cheap, 1 quite expensive, and 1 expensive). Before the weight material change only two materials were used.
To start of, a scale of cost of material:
- Aluminium - cheapest and easiest to work with.
- Brass - considerably more expensive and is a softer material.
- Stainless steel - the most expensive and the hardest material.
- Carbon fibre - quite expensive and difficult to work with.
Colours do not matter - only quantity, material and part. I am not accounting for extras to keep it easy to explain.So in total:
- 250 70 aluminium bottoms - this is the only thing that stays the same.
- 300 70 aluminium top parts (combined) - these cost slightly more due to the differences, but they are priced together.
- 150 60 aluminium & stainless steel plates - this covers the non-carbon editions.
- 300 60 brass weights - expensive material, high quantity and easy to work with.
- 250 10 carbon plates - low amount, expensive material.
- 400 10 stainless steel weights - expensive material, low quantity and hard to work with.
Before the stainless steel weight, we were looking at the aluminium weight being 250, therefore the carbon edition 1050.
- FE/Standard - 250 + 300 + 150 + 300 = 1000
- Carbon - 250 + 300 + 250 + 400 = 1200
Hopefully this explains everything.
confused. The board will cost $1000 for standard edition?
Wasn't understanding this myself?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:32:32
These figures are completely made up but they should help explain why it will costs more. Everything is put super simply on purpose to make it easy to understand.
All the numbers to represent a price are arbitrary.
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:41:27
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 17:53:29
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 03 August 2016, 18:21:47
I'm sure by then, you will be able to get a more exact figure for an estimate. Obviously for such a small run of products, the price is subject to change based on changes to design requirements, this is a given when you join such a niche group buy for what is essentially a very premium product.
I don't think the prices of anything will go up that much compared to the original estimate though, but if anyone really doesn't want to pay that little bit over the initial estimate, I think there are plenty of people in the line that would take the place.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the different colours look like, just to make sure that I still definitely want the grey over the black!
Post by: xondat on Wed, 03 August 2016, 21:36:09
I'm still playing around with what I want to do with the CE. I could make the brass weight but I'd have to do another poll and risk not everyone being fine with that. If it comes to people dropping out of a CE, or the other ones, due to price then so be it. The list of people that didn't get anything is over 30 at this current point.
I've dived in at the deep end with this design; perhaps I should've done a smaller, less complex custom first. Instead I've chose to do things that haven't been done before and personally I'm fine with that. If it takes lots of time to develop then I'm sure everyone would rather wait than get an unperfected product. X60 (and other projects spanning from this) are essentially crowd funded. I made a promise to everyone that you will get a board, and that board will be the best that I can offer with the resources available to me.
I'm not going to overcharge, but I don't want to **** myself like I did with my last group buy where I now have to dip into my savings because of some bad stuff. I don't want to put out figures as I don't want to constantly **** around with it but it's looking like $350 for Founders Edition/Standard and $400 for Carbon Edition. From my point of view, this is still cheap considering what you get, especially the Founders Edition/Standard.
The next update will be me confirming production.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 03 August 2016, 22:01:36
Are we going to have to wait until you have them in hand to see the pictures?
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 03 August 2016, 22:59:03
Is it safe to assume that the $50 deposit is going towards the overall purchase price?
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Post by: brighenne on Wed, 03 August 2016, 23:35:38
You absolutely shouldn't dip into your savings for the group buy.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 04 August 2016, 04:30:43
The price increase isn't to bad imo, and I mainly picked Carbon because of the different weight.
I'm not a huge fan of carbon plates in terms of looks but decided to give it a try in term of the feels. :D
Post by: xondat on Thu, 04 August 2016, 06:10:17
Are we going to have to wait until you have them in hand to see the pictures?I'll post the first pictures I get. Whether I get any in between now and when I get them is another question I can't answer.
Is it safe to assume that the $50 deposit is going towards the overall purchase price?Yes, you agreed to pay the deposit knowing it was part of the overall cost.
Regarding stainless steel vs brass - I want it to be different, otherwise it just feels like you must have a black case to have a carbon plate. If the end price is something like $450 then I think that's unrealistic.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:15:30
Post by: mrkevint on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:40:34
I prefer keeping ss for CE.
The price increase isn't to bad imo, and I mainly picked Carbon because of the different weight.
I'm not a huge fan of carbon plates in terms of looks but decided to give it a try in term of the feels. :D
I'm the same... I would prefer that the stainless steel weight be kept for differentiation.
I'm OK with the price increase and price gap for the Carbon Edition. It makes sense to me because the stainless steel weight and carbon fiber plate are being produced in really low numbers. That's the price you pay for exclusivity :thumb:.
Looking forward to seeing pics of the prototype and branding!
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:49:24
Thanks for the constant updates and communications, lad.
This, and thanks for the transparency throughout the whole process. Looking forward to the prototypes :thumb:
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 04 August 2016, 10:49:43
Post by: unoab on Thu, 04 August 2016, 14:21:16
I'm still playing around with what I want to do with the CE. I could make the brass weight but I'd have to do another poll and risk not everyone being fine with that. If it comes to people dropping out of a CE, or the other ones, due to price then so be it. The list of people that didn't get anything is over 30 at this current point.
For the CE edition, if you go brass, you could infill the letters with a clear epoxy or clear coat making sure the rest of the weight is cleaned to bare metal and then use something like gun blue or liver of sulphur to put a nice dark patina on it. Gun blue should be able to get you a nice grey to black color that would contrast nicely with both the anodized aluminum and the brass lettering, and the only cost added would be for the finishing, which the shop might not charge as much for.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 04 August 2016, 15:57:44
Both require a $50 deposit payable as soon as possible. Priority for the CE goes to Founders then Standards then everyone else.
Post by: Razer1987 on Fri, 05 August 2016, 02:54:47
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 05 August 2016, 03:04:32
Post by: kenlee on Fri, 05 August 2016, 03:47:15
Hi can I switch my Founders to Carbon edition?
I guess SixtyLife would be 1st priority to CE cuz he is the 1st Founders.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 05 August 2016, 04:33:36
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Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 05 August 2016, 04:40:23
Wouldn't that depend on Xondat's decision whether it's first come first serve within each cohort or by list prioritization?Hi can I switch my Founders to Carbon edition?
I guess SixtyLife would be 1st priority to CE cuz he is the 1st Founders.
Post by: xvetter on Fri, 05 August 2016, 07:21:18
Post by: xondat on Fri, 05 August 2016, 18:13:30
Post by: maximm on Sun, 07 August 2016, 09:43:58
75 is going to be overwhelming for you.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:37:02
Why not do like the duck boards and do the original 40 first and the next in another batch?Lowers the overall cost and also 70 is nothing to me. The only concern of mine is getting to the PO as I don't drive but I have friends that do.
75 is going to be overwhelming for you.
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:08:50
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:53:54
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:58:30
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:03:35
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:08:24
You cannot sell your spot as this is unfair to anyone else that has entered beforehand. I am able to refund only if I find someone to replace the spot you're giving up. If you have a spot, and you no longer want it, then you may PM me and I will manage your spot.
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 11:14:58
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 13:04:30
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 August 2016, 19:58:53
Xondat, please add that white gamer set to my invoice, pls. Thx.Funny guy :cool:
Unrelated but I didn't want to double post:
There will be no more refunding deposits at least until prototypes have arrived. They may be refunded under special circumstances, but no promises. Your spot may not be sold or traded. If it has been, both parties will be shorted.
Post by: Razer1987 on Tue, 09 August 2016, 07:23:24
If half plate become a reality. Is that possible to make them universal or it will be ANSI only ?
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:19:30
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:35:21
Post by: xondat on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:42:02
(http://i.imgur.com/lZVTUeX.jpg)
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 09 August 2016, 10:52:47
Post by: WNovizar on Wed, 10 August 2016, 03:25:31
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 10 August 2016, 03:27:32
Unrelated but I didn't want to double post:
There will be no more refunding deposits at least until prototypes have arrived. They may be refunded under special circumstances, but no promises. Your spot may not be sold or traded. If it has been, both parties will be shorted.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 10 August 2016, 14:19:44
For obvious reasons, if you don't have a spot then please don't fill it in. Thanks.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 10 August 2016, 16:34:25
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 10 August 2016, 16:40:06
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 10 August 2016, 17:03:54
I get why carbon plates are available only to CE buyers, but I think aluminum should be open to everyone tbh... :D
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 10 August 2016, 17:08:47
If theres enough interest for an ansi only plate, will CE spots be able to purchase an aluminum one?
I get why carbon plates are available only to CE buyers, but I think aluminum should be open to everyone tbh... :D
Do you want an ansi only plate FoC? I was thinking that it seems like most people would only want ANSI from the CE list, but you were the one that jumped out at me. Could we switch CE to all ANSI if nobody in this group needs ISO support?
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 10 August 2016, 17:32:15
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 10 August 2016, 17:43:46
17 forms later, I think it's clear I will be able to have an ANSI plate. However, I'd have to keep it to 2 colors and stainless steel.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 10 August 2016, 19:57:43
If theres enough interest for an ansi only plate, will CE spots be able to purchase an aluminum one?
I get why carbon plates are available only to CE buyers, but I think aluminum should be open to everyone tbh... :D
Do you want an ansi only plate FoC? I was thinking that it seems like most people would only want ANSI from the CE list, but you were the one that jumped out at me. Could we switch CE to all ANSI if nobody in this group needs ISO support?
I would think most if not all people who use ANSI would want a ANSI only plate no matter which version they chose.
I know I do ;D
Post by: Khers on Thu, 11 August 2016, 00:37:45
In case of the former, I'm interested (though, not at all keen on stainless). In case of the latter, not so much as I want to go full HHKB with split backspace and right shift.
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 11 August 2016, 01:02:53
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 11 August 2016, 01:21:19
When talking about an ANSI-only plate are we talking about just skipping ISO-enter compatibility or are we talking about a standard (Filco-esque) ANSI layout only?
In case of the former, I'm interested (though, not at all keen on stainless). In case of the latter, not so much as I want to go full HHKB with split backspace and right shift.
I was talking about ANSI only skipping the ISO Enter.
I'm going to be using a 60 key layout exactly like this
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(http://i.imgur.com/ktLxtCQ.jpg)
The less unnecessary holes the better :)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 11 August 2016, 04:31:39
If theres enough interest for an ansi only plate, will CE spots be able to purchase an aluminum one?
I get why carbon plates are available only to CE buyers, but I think aluminum should be open to everyone tbh... :D
Do you want an ansi only plate FoC? I was thinking that it seems like most people would only want ANSI from the CE list, but you were the one that jumped out at me. Could we switch CE to all ANSI if nobody in this group needs ISO support?
Yes, switched to ANSI years ago and never looked back personally.
Filled the form regarding CE plates.
My preference would be ANSI only with split Backspace and R-Shift support, which both should really be supported for a case with hhkb option imo.
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:23:06
When talking about an ANSI-only plate are we talking about just skipping ISO-enter compatibility or are we talking about a standard (Filco-esque) ANSI layout only?
In case of the former, I'm interested (though, not at all keen on stainless). In case of the latter, not so much as I want to go full HHKB with split backspace and right shift.
I was talking about ANSI only skipping the ISO Enter.
I'm going to be using a 60 key layout exactly like thisMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ktLxtCQ.jpg)
The less unnecessary holes the better :)
I'd love two plates, one ISO and one ANSI, and both with 1.5/1/1.5 type bottom row, like CommonCurt linked.
I agree so much with the fact that "universal" plates are ugly.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 August 2016, 08:57:32
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/e7fc28adb8c2434d96ca2d8d888eb276.png)
This is the different, the only different between plates would be the enter cluster.
At this point I think it would make sense to have two plates, ANSI and ISO. I'll look into it price and color wise.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 11 August 2016, 09:09:23
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This is the different, the only different between plates would be the enter cluster.
At this point I think it would make sense to have two plates, ANSI and ISO. I'll look into it price and color wise.
What a strange keypad.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 11 August 2016, 10:39:59
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This is the different, the only different between plates would be the enter cluster.
At this point I think it would make sense to have two plates, ANSI and ISO. I'll look into it price and color wise.
From the looks of the mockup, the plate won't allow split backspace or split right shift. Is this correct?
While I do prefer ANSI over universal, I would like to utilize the true HHKB layout for my HHKB CE order.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 11 August 2016, 10:41:46
I'm assuming it's going to be standard enter, but universal rectangles for ctrl/alt area, spacebar, right shift, and backspace.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 11 August 2016, 10:43:45
I think he's just using that to show the enter change.
I'm assuming it's going to be standard enter, but universal rectangles for ctrl/alt area, spacebar, right shift, and backspace.
Gotcha. Just wanted to get some clarification :thumb:
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 11 August 2016, 10:51:45
Post by: joey on Thu, 11 August 2016, 10:53:08
I don't really care either way.... it's not like when it's all together you'll have a great view of that part of the plate anyway.I remember what it looked like when I put it together.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 August 2016, 13:00:20
RAM usage on 90% :(
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 11 August 2016, 13:57:45
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RAM usage on 90% :(
You need to go download some more RAM
Post by: fendent on Thu, 11 August 2016, 16:16:26
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RAM usage on 90% :(
https://grabcad.com/library/ddr3-ram-1 here you go m8
Post by: mrkevint on Thu, 11 August 2016, 17:10:57
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 11 August 2016, 17:12:07
Very nice.. I love that design! Are there any other 60% keyboards with built-in WKL blockers? I can't recall any offhand.
Weaven did a WKL version for the most recent round.
Post by: mrkevint on Thu, 11 August 2016, 17:16:24
Very nice.. I love that design! Are there any other 60% keyboards with built-in WKL blockers? I can't recall any offhand.
Weaven did a WKL version for the most recent round.
Ahh OK.. I just took a look. I wasn't a fan of the Weaven design so I didn't pay attention after round 1. It looks pretty well executed.
Post by: ipreferpie on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:23:06
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:29:55
Just to double check, this is compatible with most 60% PCBs and plates right? I hope to try a Hasu ALPS 60% PCB on it
*Most mx PCBs
Post by: romevi on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:30:33
Just to double check, this is compatible with most 60% PCBs and plates right? I hope to try a Hasu ALPS 60% PCB on it
Huh. Not once did I consider any Alps PCBs in this case.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 12 August 2016, 22:44:36
Just to double check, this is compatible with most 60% PCBs and plates right? I hope to try a Hasu ALPS 60% PCB on it
Plates are a big no. This is not a tray style case.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 August 2016, 12:58:06
Just to double check, this is compatible with most 60% PCBs and plates right? I hope to try a Hasu ALPS 60% PCB on itAny plate apart from mine won't work. This isn't a tray mount case. MX PCBs will work as long as they follow the universal standard. This is not Alps compatible due to the plate.
Going to get prices for ANSI only plates (Red, Gold, SS) and ANSI half plates (Red, Gold, SS). No ETA on when I'll get them.
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 19 August 2016, 20:45:55
Post by: xondat on Fri, 19 August 2016, 20:56:48
Does all the prototypes have been finished? I'm keen to see more production pics of the prototype.The factory that I've paid haven't been communicating to anywhere near a decent standard. I honestly have no idea what is going on. It's now been a month which is ****ing awful.
I'm looking into an alternate factory right now. I've sent them an email and should hear back over the weekend.
Post by: WNovizar on Fri, 19 August 2016, 21:00:14
Post by: xondat on Sun, 21 August 2016, 04:12:45
Post by: logomachy on Sun, 21 August 2016, 04:22:32
All prototype parts have been made, there was just a communication error on what colors so I've sent them an email and they know what they're doing now. I'll post pictures if I get any.Had us worried over nothing.
psyched for photos
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 21 August 2016, 07:13:27
Post by: xondat on Sun, 21 August 2016, 07:20:32
Post by: romevi on Sun, 21 August 2016, 17:01:03
I have had word from the factory that they will send it by the end of next week. Promising information, but we'll see.
Excited!
Post by: xondat on Mon, 22 August 2016, 05:33:21
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 22 August 2016, 05:36:51
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 22 August 2016, 05:37:43
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h20L1yQ.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Nice. Can't wait the pics of the rest :)
Post by: Khers on Mon, 22 August 2016, 06:33:17
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 22 August 2016, 07:40:46
Post by: kenlee on Mon, 22 August 2016, 07:42:58
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 22 August 2016, 12:10:28
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h20L1yQ.jpg?1)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Looks great, Xondat! Are you still thinking about switching factories or are you sticking with this one?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 22 August 2016, 12:22:07
Are you still thinking about switching factories or are you sticking with this one?First of all, I have to wait for the prototypes to arrive. If they are of the quality I want, and they can communicate well (which they have been doing) then I think I'll go with them. Production with them has been set for September providing I am happy with what happens between now and when I get the prototypes.
However, the new factory I've been speaking to today are very clear with what they can and can't do, and what they will do. There is another creator on GH that uses this factory (that I didn't know at all), so I know the quality I can expect, which is very high. I'm currently waiting for the 2nd factory to finalize the price for me. If I do switch factory, I will get 1 prototype made with them, just to be sure.
Post by: GiveCandyy on Tue, 23 August 2016, 07:23:26
serious.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 23 August 2016, 10:12:01
Production time is 2-3 weeks, and shipping is 3-5 days. I'll be required to pay an initial, 50% payment in order to get a prototype (which will be #4), confirm that production can go ahead and then pay the 50%/shipping once they're finished production. All of that process theoretically can be done in September which is good news all around.
All we're waiting is for the first 3 prototypes from the 1st factory, and I've been told they'll be done this week so it should set up quite nicely for next month.
I apologise for how long these prototypes are taking, it wasn't what I was told and unfortunately it's out of my control. Gives me time to work on other projects though :))
I also will be doing a small run, probably 5 or 10 of Orion V2 weights. If you're interested, shoot me a PM.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 23 August 2016, 10:22:41
I also will be doing a small run, probably 5 or 10 of Orion V2 weights. If you're interested, shoot me a PM.Just to clarify, this has nothing to do with X60 at all. However I will be making them at the same time as the X60. The weights will be for the Duck Orion V2.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 23 August 2016, 18:55:51
Black
(http://i.imgur.com/KT31sNA.png)
Red/Silver (far left/centre)
(http://i.imgur.com/ReMPu0b.png)
Gold (far left)
(http://i.imgur.com/zQVDech.png)
Dark Gray
(http://i.imgur.com/FfQtIED.png)
Now obviously, the Dark Gray is the same color as the QAZ30/M36-A; you can find more pictures here (http://rama.works/#/m36a/). I'd like to thank Rama for letting me use his pictures to show the color. I'm personally very excited on getting my Dark Gray X60. Officially that color is Iron Gray, so not sure if I'll change the name I use, we'll see.
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 23 August 2016, 19:02:10
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 23 August 2016, 19:44:25
Anodizing samples! I'd say black, red, and silver are pretty hard to get wrong. I've been concerned on getting gold and dark gray right, and with confidence I can say they're going to look great. I'm super happy with the dark gray, read below why.
BlackShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KT31sNA.png)
Red/Silver (far left/centre)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ReMPu0b.png)
Gold (far left)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zQVDech.png)
Dark GrayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/FfQtIED.png)
Now obviously, the Dark Gray is the same color as the QAZ30/M36-A; you can find more pictures here (http://rama.works/#/m36a/). I'd like to thank Rama for letting me use his pictures to show the color. I'm personally very excited on getting my Dark Gray X60. Officially that color is Iron Gray, so not sure if I'll change the name I use, we'll see.
The dark grey looks great. I wouldn't have minded a regular or light grey option :p
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 24 August 2016, 03:40:35
Anyone want my spot? I've been given permission to sell my spot as long as xondat agrees :thumb:If it's a Founder's Edition I would be interested in upgrading (where's that Google Doc gone?).
serious.
As long as that's OK with Xondat of course.
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 24 August 2016, 04:52:05
Anyone want my spot? I've been given permission to sell my spot as long as xondat agrees :thumb:If it's a Founder's Edition I would be interested in upgrading (where's that Google Doc gone?).
serious.
As long as that's OK with Xondat of course.
The google doc would be nice to have for references. But yes, iirc it's not a carbon but the one in the middle of the doc, probably is a founders
Post by: joey on Wed, 24 August 2016, 04:57:36
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 24 August 2016, 05:47:37
Might have to change from black to that, will have to think about it.
EDIT:
is it possible to request a pic of black anodizing next to grey anodizing? to compare colors.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 07:54:06
If it's a Founder's Edition I would be interested in upgrading (where's that Google Doc gone?).Added it back, accidentally took it out.
As long as that's OK with Xondat of course.
We'll see about moving it up.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 07:55:19
Will there be a deadline announced for making changes to our order?Not announced, but I will give plenty of notice. Generally, as long as you haven't paid the rest it's fine to change. Invoices will go out when I publish pictures of the prototype.
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 24 August 2016, 08:16:16
Thanks for adding it back, and for considering my proposal.If it's a Founder's Edition I would be interested in upgrading (where's that Google Doc gone?).Added it back, accidentally took it out.
As long as that's OK with Xondat of course.
We'll see about moving it up.
Getting a bit ahead of myself here, but are the Founder's Editions numbered? Because if I did end up with one, I may have a proposition for the current #17 owner...
Post by: jerue on Wed, 24 August 2016, 08:31:18
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 24 August 2016, 09:25:17
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 11:33:32
Might as well put out the weights for each part, so here:
- Top pieces - 0.16kg
- Bottom - 1.30kg
- 6061 plate - 0.06kg
- SS plate - 0.18kg
- Brass weight - 0.93kg
- SS weight - 0.83kg
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 24 August 2016, 11:55:46
Looks like I am in founders. Looking for someone who is interested to replace me. serious
What layout did you order?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 12:01:34
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 24 August 2016, 12:16:18
Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
PM'd.
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 24 August 2016, 14:10:34
Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 15:08:03
Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 24 August 2016, 15:56:31
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Ah, I wasn't aware that they had chosen their numbers - bet that was a pain to sort out!
Out of interest, will the Standard Editions have anything (logo etc.) on the weight, or will it just be blank? I'm thinking about engraving mine with something personal, but that of course depends on your response.
Edited because I messed up, and then messed up again. Third time's the charm!
Post by: scubaste on Wed, 24 August 2016, 16:20:04
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 August 2016, 16:25:13
Took me like 5 minutes tbh, pretty easy.Ah, I wasn't aware that they had chosen their numbers - bet that was a pain to sort out!Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Out of interest, will the Standard Editions have anything (logo etc.) on the weight, or will it just be blank? I'm thinking about engraving mine with something personal, but that of course depends on your response.
Um they'll have my maker logo thing on, and also the chassis number which is something like 45-74 for the standard editions. I haven't finalized any of it yet apart from I'm going to be getting a friends fiance to design my stuff :))
also don't really want people to **** my babies up but I can't really stop it tbh
Post by: PriusProblems on Thu, 25 August 2016, 00:44:15
I look forward to seeing the designs!Took me like 5 minutes tbh, pretty easy.Ah, I wasn't aware that they had chosen their numbers - bet that was a pain to sort out!Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Out of interest, will the Standard Editions have anything (logo etc.) on the weight, or will it just be blank? I'm thinking about engraving mine with something personal, but that of course depends on your response.
Um they'll have my maker logo thing on, and also the chassis number which is something like 45-74 for the standard editions. I haven't finalized any of it yet apart from I'm going to be getting a friends fiance to design my stuff :))
also don't really want people to **** my babies up but I can't really stop it tbh
And in regards to your added bit, I would never do something that would "**** [it] up", but I also wouldn't to leave a blank space where I could instead customise it, like any other part of a mechanical keyboard.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 25 August 2016, 06:02:13
The engraving will be on both sides for all variants.I look forward to seeing the designs!Took me like 5 minutes tbh, pretty easy.Ah, I wasn't aware that they had chosen their numbers - bet that was a pain to sort out!Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Out of interest, will the Standard Editions have anything (logo etc.) on the weight, or will it just be blank? I'm thinking about engraving mine with something personal, but that of course depends on your response.
Um they'll have my maker logo thing on, and also the chassis number which is something like 45-74 for the standard editions. I haven't finalized any of it yet apart from I'm going to be getting a friends fiance to design my stuff :))
also don't really want people to **** my babies up but I can't really stop it tbh
And in regards to your added bit, I would never do something that would "**** [it] up", but I also wouldn't to leave a blank space where I could instead customise it, like any other part of a mechanical keyboard.
Post by: PriusProblems on Thu, 25 August 2016, 06:38:21
Thanks for clarifying.The engraving will be on both sides for all variants.I look forward to seeing the designs!Took me like 5 minutes tbh, pretty easy.Ah, I wasn't aware that they had chosen their numbers - bet that was a pain to sort out!Just to clear a few things up, GiveCandyy wants to sell his place in the group buy.:))
- If you buy his spot, you won't get his slot, you'll get #30 standard, and everyone else will be moved up.
- You buy the spot, not what he chose.
- I have only given permission to GiveCandyy as he politely asked me, and it's due to his circumstances. Otherwise, you can't sell your spot.
Definitely the fairest way of doing it. Congratulations logomachy on the upgrade!
Nope! I don't move up founder editon spots, as they requested that number. Instead WCO1, who was #1 for standard, moved to #15 founders.
Out of interest, will the Standard Editions have anything (logo etc.) on the weight, or will it just be blank? I'm thinking about engraving mine with something personal, but that of course depends on your response.
Um they'll have my maker logo thing on, and also the chassis number which is something like 45-74 for the standard editions. I haven't finalized any of it yet apart from I'm going to be getting a friends fiance to design my stuff :))
also don't really want people to **** my babies up but I can't really stop it tbh
And in regards to your added bit, I would never do something that would "**** [it] up", but I also wouldn't to leave a blank space where I could instead customise it, like any other part of a mechanical keyboard.
Post by: Khers on Thu, 25 August 2016, 12:30:19
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 02:49:05
:eek:
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 27 August 2016, 02:58:41
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 03:39:40
Post by: kenlee on Sat, 27 August 2016, 03:53:44
TGR factory. Not quite sure why there are 4 if I'm being honest; I paid for 3. One of the many reasons why I'm switching factory though.So even they finish these 4 cases, will still switch factory ?
Or would we compare their samples from two factories to make a final decision?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 04:01:42
After their lacking communication, failure to meet their own deadlines, and other things, I'll be switching to another factory. If the 2nd one isn't able to deliver the quality I've seen them do, then looks like I'll have to find another one.TGR factory. Not quite sure why there are 4 if I'm being honest; I paid for 3. One of the many reasons why I'm switching factory though.So even they finish these 4 cases, will still switch factory ?
Or would we compare their samples from two factories to make a final decision?
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 27 August 2016, 06:27:02
TGR factory. Not quite sure why there are 4 if I'm being honest; I paid for 3. One of the many reasons why I'm switching factory though.
TGR is made in the UK? :eek: Didn't know that!
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 06:31:35
TGR factory. Not quite sure why there are 4 if I'm being honest; I paid for 3. One of the many reasons why I'm switching factory though.
TGR is made in the UK? :eek: Didn't know that!
This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 27 August 2016, 07:21:52
This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Are non-UK(or even EU) machine shops really that much cheaper/better that it justifies outsourcing the manufacturing process? I'm asking because I may or may not have something planned in the future and want to know if it is even worth it to search for something local.
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 27 August 2016, 07:38:22
TGR factory. Not quite sure why there are 4 if I'm being honest; I paid for 3. One of the many reasons why I'm switching factory though.
TGR is made in the UK? :eek: Didn't know that!
This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Oh sorry I missed a thread there :))
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 09:44:49
Locally it was $800 per, it was completely out of the question after seeing there was no way to do it.This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Are non-UK(or even EU) machine shops really that much cheaper/better that it justifies outsourcing the manufacturing process? I'm asking because I may or may not have something planned in the future and want to know if it is even worth it to search for something local.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 27 August 2016, 10:29:51
Locally it was $800 per, it was completely out of the question after seeing there was no way to do it.This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Are non-UK(or even EU) machine shops really that much cheaper/better that it justifies outsourcing the manufacturing process? I'm asking because I may or may not have something planned in the future and want to know if it is even worth it to search for something local.
WHAT $800? How do they even have customers at these prices?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 27 August 2016, 12:09:50
Locally it was $800 per, it was completely out of the question after seeing there was no way to do it.This isn't being made in the UK, hasn't been for ages!
Are non-UK(or even EU) machine shops really that much cheaper/better that it justifies outsourcing the manufacturing process? I'm asking because I may or may not have something planned in the future and want to know if it is even worth it to search for something local.
WHAT $800? How do they even have customers at these prices?
No idea, I'm guessing 70 isn't enough, but it looks like they do 1 offs which would make sense.
Post by: MrDaddio on Mon, 29 August 2016, 08:36:29
Post by: joey on Mon, 29 August 2016, 08:39:04
WHAT $800? How do they even have customers at these prices?Because usually it's companies getting stuff made? And 800$ isn't that much.
Post by: romevi on Mon, 29 August 2016, 09:06:12
Did the name change?
Yeah, it's tentatively called 60S until mobbo comes up with the actual name.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 29 August 2016, 12:08:38
Did the name change?Yup. X60 is now called 60S, the naming convention will make sense when other projects I finish are released. I'm just thinking of what name I'll run all my stuff under now.
Post by: Khers on Tue, 30 August 2016, 00:40:37
Post by: xondat on Tue, 30 August 2016, 20:02:20
I'm so sorry for how long this is taking, it's almost embarrassing, and it hasn't helped me in the slightest. I really want to just see something actually happen with it, and it gets me even more excited thinking someone else can have one. Luckily I'm having 3/4 different projects prototyped along with the 60S production, so there won't be any waiting for prototypes if I do anything else.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 30 August 2016, 20:09:40
Prototypes have actually been sent to be anodized today... He said a week, maybe. At this point I don't want to deal with the 1st factory any more, but I have to. I've contacted the 2nd factory to see how quickly they can get a prototype to me, if it's quicker than 2 weeks then I'll be raising a $2000 deposit to pay them ASAP. I don't want to sell much of my stuff (although I probably will have to) as I only have around $500 in savings, so if anyone wants to pay the rest of their order off let me know - I was thinking a $25 discount or free extra plate but perhaps some sort of discussion can go on if people want. :confused:
I'm so sorry for how long this is taking, it's almost embarrassing, and it hasn't helped me in the slightest. I really want to just see something actually happen with it, and it gets me even more excited thinking someone else can have one. Luckily I'm having 3/4 different projects prototyped along with the 60S production, so there won't be any waiting for prototypes if I do anything else.
I can pay early, I can maybe talk my buddy into paying early as well
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 30 August 2016, 20:10:59
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 30 August 2016, 20:33:03
Post by: briannnn on Tue, 30 August 2016, 20:52:31
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 31 August 2016, 00:00:10
Post by: Khers on Wed, 31 August 2016, 01:01:03
Post by: xondat on Wed, 31 August 2016, 14:10:08
I'm also getting close to finishing the 17 2D drawing the factory want me to produce, managed to do 10 in 8 hours today... I'll get the other 7 done tomorrow hopefully.
Edit: If you're paying now, you can still change your colors up until when everyone else pays.
Edit 2: Invoice number doesn't have any correlation to number on the spreadsheet or number of edition etc.
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 31 August 2016, 14:35:08
Since you're switching factories, do you have a rough estimate on a new timeline? (if everything goes well of course)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 31 August 2016, 14:38:54
Production time is 2-3 weeks, and shipping is 3-5 days. I'll be required to pay an initial, 50% payment in order to get a prototype (which will be #4), confirm that production can go ahead and then pay the 50%/shipping once they're finished production.Just a note on this, it is no longer 50/50 but to make it easier on me, we decided to do $2000 and then pay the rest off after production.
They told me making the prototype will take anywhere from 10-14 days, depending on when the payment goes through, and shipping is 3-5 days. Best case scenario is 2 weeks, worst 3 weeks, but it wouldn't surprise me if it got to me before the 1st factory. :rolleyes:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 September 2016, 08:36:46
Just paid for the 8 parts @ the 2nd factory.
I also have another picture from the 1st place.
(http://i.imgur.com/n05MwYK.jpg)
Who knows when I'll have these :rolleyes:
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 01 September 2016, 08:45:43
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 September 2016, 08:49:01
This will get sand blasted prior to anodizing right?
(http://i.imgur.com/C7dTDj8.png)
Correct.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 01 September 2016, 09:31:14
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 September 2016, 09:38:36
What are you going to do with the prototypes?Either do a charity auction, or keep them as memorabilia.
Post by: PriusProblems on Thu, 01 September 2016, 16:10:39
Post by: AceRuckus on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:52:27
Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 15:55:00
Would anyone wanna sell their black 60% founder's edition? Highly interested and PP ready.Putting it out there again, if someone else's their spot, the buyer and seller will both lose out. It isn't fair on the people that signed up before someone comes along willing to buy out a spot. :rolleyes:
Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 September 2016, 17:45:14
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 03 September 2016, 22:26:03
Post by: deductivemonkee on Sat, 03 September 2016, 22:29:40
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rxzNBzk.gif)
Ill let you think so.
Now what did you post cause I want to know :p
Post by: sonic2911 on Sat, 03 September 2016, 23:01:05
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 September 2016, 23:02:25
I'm sorry but this GB is closed or not?
Ongoing, you could still attempt to get a spot if someone drops out via the form in the first post
Post by: sonic2911 on Sat, 03 September 2016, 23:06:13
I'm sorry but this GB is closed or not?
Ongoing, you could still attempt to get a spot if someone drops out via the form in the first post
50/50 chance :(
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 03 September 2016, 23:34:17
X60's back ;D
Liked X60 better then 60S :thumb:
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 03 September 2016, 23:53:53
X60's back ;D
Liked X60 better then 60S :thumb:
me too, thanks
Post by: deductivemonkee on Sun, 04 September 2016, 01:11:45
Post by: Gatix on Sun, 04 September 2016, 04:06:53
Post by: xondat on Sun, 04 September 2016, 07:31:21
I'm sorry but this GB is closed or not?I replied to your PM :)
Post by: mll8394 on Sun, 04 September 2016, 07:51:14
Post by: sonic2911 on Sun, 04 September 2016, 10:08:13
Post by: xondat on Sun, 04 September 2016, 10:32:38
Please let me know, give me your slot if you want to drop it out. ThanksIf someone drops out, it goes to the 1st person that missed out that's in the queue, not whoever they choose, jsyk :))
I should count how many times I've had to say this
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 04 September 2016, 11:03:34
Please let me know, give me your slot if you want to drop it out. ThanksIf someone drops out, it goes to the 1st person that missed out that's in the queue, not whoever they choose, jsyk :))
I should count how many times I've had to say this
Maybe you need to put it on 72pt font on top of the 1st post, helps gets the point across (bonus point if you do it in rainbow colours) :thumb:
Post by: loud_asian on Sun, 04 September 2016, 11:51:43
Please let me know, give me your slot if you want to drop it out. ThanksIf someone drops out, it goes to the 1st person that missed out that's in the queue, not whoever they choose, jsyk :))
I should count how many times I've had to say this
Maybe you need to put it on 72pt font on top of the 1st post, helps gets the point across (bonus point if you do it in rainbow colours) :thumb:
Engrave it into the weight
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:04:12
- 1st factory: No update, still in anodizing.
- 2nd factory: CAD and 2D drawings approved, production has started.
Timeline is looking something like this:
- 9/5 - sample production (2 weeks)
- 9/19 - shipping to me (1 week)
- 9/26 - invoice period (1 week)
- 10/3 - main production(2 weeks)
- 10/17 - shipping to me (1 week)
- 10/24 - inspection, shipping invoices and shipping to you (8 days)
I plan to have this done by the 31st of October (if shipping is paid promptly), providing all goes well. Shipping is listed as 3-5 days from the factory, so I've allowed a week for customs too. **** will probably go wrong, but if its smooth then this is what it all looks like.
I'm having 60 aluminum plates, and 20 stainless steel plates made so that means 7 are left of each that are available as extras. I'll be able to restock them in the future most likely (if there is a demand), but for now that's all that's going to be made.
I also want to start X75 in November which would take 2 months so it would work perfectly to start on the 1st of November.
Thanks for putting up with me :))
Post by: joey on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:08:08
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 September 2016, 15:10:57
I'm confused about our plate options, can you go over what we can order? (Extra plates, basically)Any color aluminum, but there are 7. And then there are 7 stainless steel plates too. These are all extras.
Post by: Razer1987 on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:09:57
I'm confused about our plate options, can you go over what we can order? (Extra plates, basically)Any color aluminum, but there are 7. And then there are 7 stainless steel plates too. These are all extras.
Hi Xondat,
And if we ordered 2 extra plates when we ordered the case, will they be saved for us ?
Or it's gonna be fcfs ?
Thanks
Post by: jerue on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:12:40
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:23:54
Yes they've already been accounted for. You have no extra plates down FWIW.I'm confused about our plate options, can you go over what we can order? (Extra plates, basically)Any color aluminum, but there are 7. And then there are 7 stainless steel plates too. These are all extras.
Hi Xondat,
And if we ordered 2 extra plates when we ordered the case, will they be saved for us ?
Or it's gonna be fcfs ?
Thanks
Post by: Razer1987 on Mon, 05 September 2016, 16:25:33
Yes they've already been accounted for. You have no extra plates down FWIW.I'm confused about our plate options, can you go over what we can order? (Extra plates, basically)Any color aluminum, but there are 7. And then there are 7 stainless steel plates too. These are all extras.
Hi Xondat,
And if we ordered 2 extra plates when we ordered the case, will they be saved for us ?
Or it's gonna be fcfs ?
Thanks
Yes two in my last PM from last month.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 September 2016, 19:31:57
The factory messaged me today and told me there was no update.
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 07 September 2016, 20:04:24
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 September 2016, 20:08:30
nooo. I just want to see the samples so I can make my color choices!Have you not seen the examples I posted? :o
I only have dark gray from the 2nd factory on order.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 September 2016, 19:45:17
Currently working on getting boxes that will cover all sizes of boards I want to do. This involves getting the smallest size, for pricing purposes, but with maximum flexibility on which form factors it can be used for. Ideally I want 1 that covers all, but it might be more intelligent to have 2 sizes. Yes, there will be ample foam wrap (or whatever you call it). I looked into completely custom packaging, but it seems way too expensive just for a nice unboxing experience, so I'll probably pass on that.
I'll also need to figure out label printers depending on the service I use, so if anyone has one that they'd recommend then hit me up. I should have the shipping process refined when it comes to shipping these, and I really want to be as efficient as possible (plus I don't have the space to store 70 keyboards, nor the packaging).
I'm also aware that this group buy is almost 2 months deep, and to me that's pretty ****. For X75, I'd like to have it completely done by then - I know this is possible so I'll challenge myself next time. I don't take it for granted that I'm able to do this due to everyone's support with deposits and early payments. I'm super excited for everyone to get their boards and I hope it will be worth the wait. I really want to finish this so I can start working on something else.
:-*
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 September 2016, 18:18:38
I also previously stated that the invoicing period would take a week and then main production would begin:
- 9/19 - shipping to me (1 week)
- 9/26 - invoice period (1 week)
- 10/3 - main production(2 weeks)
However, this is wrong. I'll be approving the samples the same day I get them, and these time periods will overlap which means a week will be cut out of the estimated shipping date. I plan to have everything shipped by the last day of October, so this moving forward slightly means some people will have the board before November.
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 15 September 2016, 09:05:57
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 19 September 2016, 20:08:50
Post by: xondat on Tue, 20 September 2016, 07:21:26
I discussed with the factory that the plates would initially be CNC'd for the sample, with the full production to be laser cut. However, the engineers chose to have the plates laser cut, like the production, so that the sample represents what I'll receive, and what you'll receive. They tried to have the plates laser cut at their usual supplier, who cannot do the job due to the higher MOQ they have. They will now aim to have it complete by Monday (26th).
Unfortunately this doesn't play well with the timeline I outlined a couple of weeks ago when I was told it would take 15 days to finish. The current word is that I'll receive exact news on the plates on Friday (23rd), along with pictures. They hope they can finish on Monday, and shipping will be the next day (however I'm allowing for more). The timeline I outlined doesn't really allow for delays apart from during shipping, so I've also taken this into consideration when revising it. Here is what we're looking at now:
- 09/28 - sample shipped
- 10/05 - sample received, production approved, invoices out
- 10/12 - invoices due
- 10/26 - production shipped
- 11/02 - production received, shipping invoices, packing
- 11/06 - all orders out
I've also been told another 3-4 weeks for anodizing with the prototype from the first factory, however since I don't need them to be anodized (and the design is a earlier revision), I've asked for them to be shipped unanodized which should hopefully get them to me soon. This doesn't affect the group buy any more, as I won't be using the factory that machined the parts.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 21 September 2016, 06:16:50
Just got the news that everything has been machined.
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 21 September 2016, 06:17:59
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CSehquG.png)
Just got the news that everything has been machined.
Woo great to here! Here's hoping for extras! :D
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 September 2016, 05:56:01
(http://i.imgur.com/jGGrfTI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pnlblUd.jpg)
Stainless steel plate pictures (and the first plate pictures too). First two pictures are showing it after it has been brushed, the other side is the unfinished side. I'm either going to chose brushed or polished.
Anodizing should be finished tomorrow is what I've been told, small reminder that the anodizing will be dark gray. I should get some pictures before the factory send the samples to me, so in a couple days hopefully.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 September 2016, 04:44:40
Post by: joey on Mon, 26 September 2016, 04:52:03
Samples are being shipped today!Good news everyone!
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 26 September 2016, 05:32:06
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 September 2016, 05:39:33
how about pictures?Good point :-\
(http://i.imgur.com/p4uEDWb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PpDgBMV.jpg)
I woke up to a message saying they'll be shipped, didn't think to ask for pictures!
Post by: kenlee on Mon, 26 September 2016, 06:01:29
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 September 2016, 06:25:02
Nice, it look like gray, is it? Or dark gray?This is the Dark Gray.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 26 September 2016, 07:41:32
how about pictures?Good point :-\Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p4uEDWb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PpDgBMV.jpg)
I woke up to a message saying they'll be shipped, didn't think to ask for pictures!
Very nice :). Is this the sample from the second shop (the one that will be doing the manufacturing)?
Nice, it look like gray, is it? Or dark gray?This is the Dark Gray.
Love the shade of grey :thumb:
I was actually worried it would be too dark
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 26 September 2016, 07:47:54
the spacebar on that rubber dome has seen better days.how about pictures?Good point :-\Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p4uEDWb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PpDgBMV.jpg)
I woke up to a message saying they'll be shipped, didn't think to ask for pictures!
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 September 2016, 07:48:50
Very nice :). Is this the sample from the second shop (the one that will be doing the manufacturing)?Correct. Going to look at getting the money back from the first place, something like 4/5 times overdue now and I keep getting ignored.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 26 September 2016, 10:00:52
the spacebar on that rubber dome has seen better days.how about pictures?Good point :-\Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/p4uEDWb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PpDgBMV.jpg)
I woke up to a message saying they'll be shipped, didn't think to ask for pictures!
Hahaha. Yeah it has :))
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 September 2016, 09:39:33
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 September 2016, 14:38:21
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:08:50
It's cleared customs, so I'm secretly hoping it comes tomorrow (it's happened before), but it will probably be Friday!
Extremely excited!
Is it a full kit with weight?
What board are you putting in it?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:10:19
It's all parts in all materials, so 3 top pieces, 1 bottom, 2 weights (brass/SS), and 2 plates (alu/SS). Will put a Leandren R4 GON in.It's cleared customs, so I'm secretly hoping it comes tomorrow (it's happened before), but it will probably be Friday!
Extremely excited!
Is it a full kit with weight?
What board are you putting in it?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:12:32
Dont think Ive been this stoked for a board before tbh!
Shot you a pm a while ago btw xondat, not sure if you received it...
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:25:29
Much hyped! =DI'm so excited too. This is what I've been working on daily since June 1st, so it means a lot to me.
Dont think Ive been this stoked for a board before tbh!
Shot you a pm a while ago btw xondat, not sure if you received it...
Can you quote your previous message and send it again? I don't see anything.
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:26:32
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:33:41
ahh can you throw some caps on it?Of course, I'm hoping my Hyperfuse set will be here soon, but I have a blank/black set so will throw those on.
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:44:32
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:ahh can you throw some caps on it?Of course, I'm hoping my Hyperfuse set will be here soon, but I have a blank/black set so will throw those on.
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 28 September 2016, 15:49:37
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 September 2016, 16:04:22
You can send to me, I can put hyperfuse on it.Funny.
Bad news, customs are going to contact me about Hyperfuse... Looks like pictures will feature the black/blank set!
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 28 September 2016, 16:14:54
Much hyped! =DI'm so excited too. This is what I've been working on daily since June 1st, so it means a lot to me.
Dont think Ive been this stoked for a board before tbh!
Shot you a pm a while ago btw xondat, not sure if you received it...
Can you quote your previous message and send it again? I don't see anything.
Done! =D
Didnt show up in my outbox either tho so maybe I didn't send it after all.
My bad...
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 28 September 2016, 22:15:41
It's cleared customs, so I'm secretly hoping it comes tomorrow (it's happened before), but it will probably be Friday!
Excellent! Can't wait to see the pics.
Was it ever decided if there will be a ANSI only plate option?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:27:22
Was it ever decided if there will be a ANSI only plate option?I need to clarify if I can because they changed their laser cutting factory, there was problems with the MOQ last time but it should all work itself out. If I can do ANSI only plates, I'll have half plates as well.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:32:14
Package is with the courier. Next post from me will be pictures.
So hyped. I don't know if I should pray for a spare X60 to pickup or wait for the Duck Viper V2. HELP!
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:43:27
Go for both. :DPackage is with the courier. Next post from me will be pictures.
So hyped. I don't know if I should pray for a spare X60 to pickup or wait for the Duck Viper V2. HELP!
But seriously, if you prefer light effects go for Duck Viper v2. But if you prefer flexibility(moddable plate, universal pcb support) go for x60.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 29 September 2016, 05:54:24
Go for both. :DPackage is with the courier. Next post from me will be pictures.
So hyped. I don't know if I should pray for a spare X60 to pickup or wait for the Duck Viper V2. HELP!
But seriously, if you prefer light effects go for Duck Viper v2. But if you prefer flexibility(moddable plate, universal pcb support) go for x60.
My wallet is going to report a domestic dispute against me for all the abuse this month. The flexibility is a huge selling point for me.
I think I want the X60 way more; there's no guarantee I will be able to find one though :p
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 29 September 2016, 06:29:06
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 06:31:32
If enough people drop out, and you want a chance at having a spot, fill this (https://goo.gl/forms/vxR0vggMSbH1tIem1) form in.
PS: I lied about the next post I guess ;)
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 29 September 2016, 06:34:47
If enough people drop out, and you want a chance at having a spot, fill this (https://goo.gl/forms/vxR0vggMSbH1tIem1) form in.
PS: I lied about the next post I guess ;)
Thanks, xondat. Never knew this was here.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 09:51:40
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 11:08:14
Looks great, Xondat! Exited to see some assemble pics :thumb:But I haven't posted any yet!
Speaking of which, let me take some photos.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 29 September 2016, 11:09:34
hype :DLooks great, Xondat! Exited to see some assemble pics :thumb:But I haven't posted any yet!
Speaking of which, let me take some photos.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 11:13:56
Looks great, Xondat! Exited to see some assemble pics :thumb:But I haven't posted any yet!
Speaking of which, let me take some photos.
Err, Excited... ;D
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:20:21
(http://i.imgur.com/nsysIa1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XDF0Yvd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wDxXiM0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KxqAtnp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/P6TcYAI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/J0kOcSO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pz3y6cw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nete7Zu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5c3FDe4.jpg)
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:22:36
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/s644p7o.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nsysIa1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XDF0Yvd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDxXiM0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KxqAtnp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P6TcYAI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/J0kOcSO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pz3y6cw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nete7Zu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5c3FDe4.jpg)
fk yes
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:25:25
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/s644p7o.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nsysIa1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XDF0Yvd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDxXiM0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KxqAtnp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P6TcYAI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/J0kOcSO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pz3y6cw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nete7Zu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5c3FDe4.jpg)
Oh yeah :thumb:
Can we get a close up of the side profile so we can see the tolerance of how tight the two halves fit together?
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:28:26
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/s644p7o.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nsysIa1.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XDF0Yvd.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wDxXiM0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KxqAtnp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P6TcYAI.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/J0kOcSO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pz3y6cw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nete7Zu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5c3FDe4.jpg)
This looks amazing!!! I shall deem this my "adult" board :D
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:50:24
So far I'm super excited, color is awesome as well.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:53:19
:thumb:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 12:56:37
I'll take a picture of the bottom if this video doesn't cover it. Plates are laser cut, I'm not sure how/if they do any other additional finishing apart from sandblasting and anodizing. Screws used aren't going to be used in the production, its just what I have on hand.
Post by: Butter on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:00:52
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:05:06
(http://i.imgur.com/bppCOTW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9Gg5pAU.jpg)
@Butter: End of October/start of November.
Post by: slickmamba on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:06:55
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vutDPQL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bppCOTW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9Gg5pAU.jpg)
P
@Butter: End of October/start of November.
Are switches and caps going on the plate today. We don't need soldering hehe
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:07:30
I can mock it up, I need to eat though :(Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vutDPQL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bppCOTW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9Gg5pAU.jpg)
P
@Butter: End of October/start of November.
Are switches and caps going on the plate today. We don't need soldering hehe
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:07:57
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vutDPQL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bppCOTW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9Gg5pAU.jpg)
@Butter: End of October/start of November.
Looks amazing. You have any pics without the weight in?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:21:53
(http://i.imgur.com/8j7wKFP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vutDPQL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bppCOTW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9Gg5pAU.jpg)
@Butter: End of October/start of November.
Looks amazing. You have any pics without the weight in?
Post by: MrDaddio on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:24:56
That board just is looking so amazing.
Excited to see caps in it!
Do we have updated timelines anywhere?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:40:22
Do we have updated timelines anywhere?Working on it now.
Post by: MrDaddio on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:48:55
Pictures are so crisp
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:24:18
Also what camera do you use?Canon 6D!
Pictures are so crisp
New timeline is the following:
09/26 - sample shipped
09/29 - sample received, invoices out
10/01 - production approved
10/07 - invoices due
10/24 - production shipped
10/31 - production received, shipping invoices, packing
11/06 - all orders out
I will be sending out the remaining invoices tonight and tomorrow (if I don't finish up), I'll also contact people that paid in advance about their extra plate or discount.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:37:35
Are you going to get the chance to inspect and approve the Carbon plates? IIRC you had mentioned that the plates were being made in a different factory.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:56:41
Xondat,Yes and no. I'll be using the same place as LeandreN, and I've previously had one of his carbon fiber plates and it was great. I won't have chance to inspect/approve my design, only when the 15 or so I'll order get to me. If they aren't to spec then (usually) the factory will correct it, if not, then I know of another place that can do it.
Are you going to get the chance to inspect and approve the Carbon plates? IIRC you had mentioned that the plates were being made in a different factory.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:05:19
Post by: henz on Thu, 29 September 2016, 15:08:42
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 16:07:10
PS: Commenting paid really helps more than you might think!
Post by: MrDaddio on Thu, 29 September 2016, 17:30:02
Post by: kenlee on Thu, 29 September 2016, 18:53:50
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 September 2016, 18:58:05
Nice job!! Dark gray looks awesome. Will the brass weight be polished and have logo or letter engraved. If yes it'll be cool.See the OP for full details on every edition :))
Post by: jerue on Thu, 29 September 2016, 19:16:31
looking forward to getting mine :)
Post by: mrboovn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 19:59:07
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 29 September 2016, 20:46:44
Post by: Danboard on Thu, 29 September 2016, 21:19:40
Post by: manofinterests on Thu, 29 September 2016, 23:03:57
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 29 September 2016, 23:37:39
Ready to pay the $375 for standard edition but just to be clear, is the total cost for standard edition $50 deposit + $375?
When I checked my order in the Google Spreadsheet, I saw "PCB" on the right. Does that mean that I ordered a B.face PCB as well? If so then it justify the price.
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:14:50
Love the sample!! Really nice job you've done, Xondat.
Ready to pay the $375 for standard edition but just to be clear, is the total cost for standard edition $50 deposit + $375?
When I checked my order in the Google Spreadsheet, I saw "PCB" on the right. Does that mean that I ordered a B.face PCB as well? If so then it justify the price.
Yes, PCB on the spreadsheet means you picked up a b.face PCB
Post by: Butter on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:28:12
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 September 2016, 04:31:40
Love the sample!! Really nice job you've done, Xondat.Total cost for you is $50 deposit + $300 for the rest of the standard + $60 for the PCB + fees.
Ready to pay the $375 for standard edition but just to be clear, is the total cost for standard edition $50 deposit + $375?
When I checked my order in the Google Spreadsheet, I saw "PCB" on the right. Does that mean that I ordered a B.face PCB as well? If so then it justify the price.
Post by: Fictiouz on Fri, 30 September 2016, 05:08:01
I abandoned GMK Hydro for this board. Hopefully I'll be able to get it when it's on KeyClack :p
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 September 2016, 05:47:01
- Final color changes are to be made by the 7th of October.
- If you want to add/remove something from your order, please PM me so I can adjust your invoice.
- The video from last night showed the top and bottom half moving around. This is without any screws, and is just a backup mechanism to make sure the two halves are aligned perfectly.
- Everything to do with shipping will be sorted when I invoice for shipping, this includes getting your phone number for internationals.
- I might be having 100 made instead of 70 - this will open a lot of spots up so I will rerun a new form later if I do.
- Screws shown in photos/the video are not what you will be getting, they're the screws I had on hand. You'll receive "M3 X 3/4/12mm Low Head Cap Screws - A2 Stainless Steel".
- Engraving will be made public ASAP, just finalising details. The only thing that is holding back is whether I use a text "logo" or not.
- If I owe anyone that dropped out their deposit, PLEASE MESSAGE ME IMMEDIATELY. I don't want to leave you waiting, but it has been manic trying to manage everything and I may've missed you.
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 30 September 2016, 09:52:09
Edit: Is the 7th the cutoff for adding an additional plate as well?
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 30 September 2016, 18:56:35
Love the sample!! Really nice job you've done, Xondat.Total cost for you is $50 deposit + $300 for the rest of the standard + $60 for the PCB + fees.
Ready to pay the $375 for standard edition but just to be clear, is the total cost for standard edition $50 deposit + $375?
When I checked my order in the Google Spreadsheet, I saw "PCB" on the right. Does that mean that I ordered a B.face PCB as well? If so then it justify the price.
Paid.
Thanks for all the hard work Xondat! Looking forward to the finish line.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 01 October 2016, 04:43:16
Green names = paid, yellow names = invoiced, red names = cancelled, blue names = :rolleyes:
Invoice paid :thumb:The cut off was when you pay for invoice for parts :rolleyes: PM me when you make up your mind, I'll have to send you a second invoice.
Edit: Is the 7th the cutoff for adding an additional plate as well?
Post by: R4WBIT on Sat, 01 October 2016, 05:44:42
More
(http://i.imgur.com/j81GJxc.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 01 October 2016, 05:54:01
Hmm, having second thoughts about my color choice... What do you guys think would go best with GMK Classic Retro/Cherry Dyesubs? I think I'm leaning towards the Dark Grey. That color really turned out amazing.(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/j81GJxc.jpg)
Silver works the best in my opinion.
Post by: R4WBIT on Sat, 01 October 2016, 06:19:53
Hmm, having second thoughts about my color choice... What do you guys think would go best with GMK Classic Retro/Cherry Dyesubs? I think I'm leaning towards the Dark Grey. That color really turned out amazing.MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/j81GJxc.jpg)MoreShow Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24128974883_7eaeb89fb3_o.jpg)
Silver works the best in my opinion.
Yeah silver does look great. I've never been a huge fan of it but in this case maybe.. I'm so used to my dark cases by now hehe
Post by: Butter on Sat, 01 October 2016, 07:16:04
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 01 October 2016, 07:18:29
Post by: dakuzo on Sat, 01 October 2016, 11:13:27
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 01 October 2016, 11:58:41
Updated the spreadsheet.
Green names = paid, yellow names = invoiced, red names = cancelled, blue names = :rolleyes:Invoice paid :thumb:The cut off was when you pay for invoice for parts :rolleyes: PM me when you make up your mind, I'll have to send you a second invoice.
Edit: Is the 7th the cutoff for adding an additional plate as well?
How much are the extra plates again?
Post by: brighenne on Sat, 01 October 2016, 12:05:02
Updated the spreadsheet.
Green names = paid, yellow names = invoiced, red names = cancelled, blue names = :rolleyes:
Bunny gets free kiibod?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 01 October 2016, 12:38:00
How much are the extra plates again?
Extra plates will be available at $20. Carbon fiber plates will be $50. PM me your name, number and plates you want to add.All info/common questions are in the OP! Message for everyone, not just you :rolleyes:
Bunny gets free kiibod?Bunny is a bro, we've figured something out :thumb:[/list]
Post by: Gatix on Sat, 01 October 2016, 14:01:19
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 01 October 2016, 14:16:16
Woohooo <3<3
Post by: xondat on Sat, 01 October 2016, 14:23:14
Thanks to all that have paid so far, approaching half way now.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 01 October 2016, 16:24:25
How much are the extra plates again?Extra plates will be available at $20. Carbon fiber plates will be $50. PM me your name, number and plates you want to add.All info/common questions are in the OP! Message for everyone, not just you :rolleyes:
Okay, I was on my phone, and didn't see it in the OP.
You have to press the second "show more" button.
I sent you a PM[/list]
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:42:33
Post by: Arthouse on Sat, 01 October 2016, 20:30:47
It's such a beauty and on par with my favorite works, such as the Jane and otd 356 mini.
Fantastic work xondat! :thumb:
Post by: CornCha0s on Sun, 02 October 2016, 04:20:46
Post by: xondat on Sun, 02 October 2016, 06:29:50
Post by: xondat on Mon, 03 October 2016, 08:30:59
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 03 October 2016, 08:38:07
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:44:45
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 03 October 2016, 09:54:25
has it been decided what case color will be hard anodized?
Obvious choice would be black imo, since carbon edition is supposed to be the flagship version.
Not sure if this will be the case tho...
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 03 October 2016, 15:41:45
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Post by: scubaste on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:08:06
Post by: xondat on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:13:28
has it been decided what case color will be hard anodized?I believe Black will be hard anodized but I need to double check with my contact.
Post by: PollandAkuma on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:24:40
Post by: xondat on Tue, 04 October 2016, 18:26:25
Damn, I didn't know there was this group buy. Nice one, wish I could join ahaha. Are you shipping from UK?Yup, all are being shipped to me then I'll handle everything from there.
PS to the thread in general: The prototypes will be built on Saturday!
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 04 October 2016, 19:00:32
sweeet. looking forward to the build pics!Damn, I didn't know there was this group buy. Nice one, wish I could join ahaha. Are you shipping from UK?Yup, all are being shipped to me then I'll handle everything from there.
PS to the thread in general: The prototypes will be built on Saturday!
Post by: WNovizar on Tue, 04 October 2016, 21:54:41
Post by: Quakemz on Wed, 05 October 2016, 23:50:03
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 06:23:35
(http://i.imgur.com/fSVAUFC.jpg)
Got the screws today, everything fits as intended.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 06 October 2016, 06:29:57
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Got the screws today, everything fits as intended.
HUBBA HUBBA :eek:
Post by: axtran on Thu, 06 October 2016, 06:43:18
Post by: wodan on Thu, 06 October 2016, 07:27:39
Post by: Mrs. Butter on Thu, 06 October 2016, 09:28:23
All the best to you, the pictures are looking great :)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 09:40:41
(http://i.imgur.com/sjeSKcW.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nMgjDE9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/I0HT8y5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ts9z3Cm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dERnj5E.jpg)
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I hope people are fine with me just dumping lots of images occasionally.
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 06 October 2016, 09:51:28
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3ITG5yl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sjeSKcW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nMgjDE9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I0HT8y5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ts9z3Cm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dERnj5E.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z34lRfG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/flQ5KQ2.jpg)
I hope people are fine with me just dumping lots of images occasionally.
I do mind. Please post more!
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 06 October 2016, 09:54:17
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I hope people are fine with me just dumping lots of images occasionally.
Could you not..
Post by: HannahPeach on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:16:28
Hi Xondat, I will have to relinquish my spot. Some changes, although good, have forced me to cut back on my spending powers. Please give my downpayment to charity or, if you're making losses on this project, use it to cover those.
All the best to you, the pictures are looking great :)
I might be willing to take on your spot, if that's what you're implying
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:29:17
I do mind. Please post more!More pictures on Saturday when it's built unless I can find something else to take a picture of.
Post by: wodan on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:34:00
I might be willing to take on your spot, if that's what you're implying
If someone drops out, it goes to the 1st person that missed out that's in the queue, not whoever they choose, jsyk :))
I should count how many times I've had to say this
This is a British-run GB, there is a queue ;)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:36:47
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:41:34
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 06 October 2016, 10:54:24
xondat, after you assemble it could you do a typing video? Thanks!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 11:04:30
xondat, after you assemble it could you do a typing video? Thanks!Sure - it will be 67g Zealios in the aluminium plate and Gateron Blacks in the stainless steel plate.
Looking great, Xondat. November can't come fast enough! As my first child is expected in the same month, this is going to be an amazing November :thumb:Congratulations! On the baby, of course.
(http://i.imgur.com/eOoRIDt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c11jEhX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6NYxhUV.jpg)
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 06 October 2016, 11:35:44
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 06 October 2016, 11:54:42
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 11:55:20
Hey xondat, could take a picture comparing the sizes of the bottom bezels of the X60 and HHKB?I'm making pasta now but yeah I can later.
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 06 October 2016, 12:32:37
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 06 October 2016, 12:51:15
Fictiouz, looking at your signature, you're gonna be so broke :p
xondat, after you assemble it could you do a typing video? Thanks!
As soon as I get the X60 built I'm selling my B.face and I currently have another B.face I'm selling to keep the funds at an ok level.
Post by: JulienC on Thu, 06 October 2016, 12:59:42
Post by: pexon on Thu, 06 October 2016, 13:25:32
(http://i.imgur.com/SGv1bTD.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 October 2016, 18:00:47
Hey xondat, could take a picture comparing the sizes of the bottom bezels of the X60 and HHKB?
(http://i.imgur.com/Ma8dv4z.jpg)
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 06 October 2016, 23:38:16
Post by: fendent on Fri, 07 October 2016, 07:17:17
Post by: xondat on Fri, 07 October 2016, 08:21:22
Oh, bunnylake posted the things I need to build it today so they will be here tomorrow.
Post by: wodan on Fri, 07 October 2016, 09:30:40
What do we need to do? Throw money at you till it sticks?
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 07 October 2016, 09:53:02
Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 07 October 2016, 10:12:29
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 10:15:03
Meow.
What do we need to do? Throw money at you till it sticks?
GL Wodan! Cheering for you since you brought us the HAD kits :thumb:
Post by: SJHL on Fri, 07 October 2016, 10:29:08
Post by: duhhey on Fri, 07 October 2016, 12:17:28
Post by: xondat on Fri, 07 October 2016, 17:59:45
Post by: pace8500 on Fri, 07 October 2016, 18:00:59
Payment is due in 1 hour from now. I will be cancelling invoices on people that haven't contacted me and making some slots free, I will post a FCFS form here.
Definitely interested in one if there are any available.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 07 October 2016, 19:11:16
Form here (https://goo.gl/forms/iKMI0X3hmlj8x3Nr2).
Post by: wodan on Fri, 07 October 2016, 19:13:12
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 07 October 2016, 19:14:52
Post by: xondat on Sat, 08 October 2016, 08:36:20
Post by: jeffbolton on Sat, 08 October 2016, 13:53:32
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 08 October 2016, 15:48:23
Post by: Tobi45 on Sat, 08 October 2016, 17:12:03
Anyway, best of luck filling these spots, your work looks great!
Post by: xondat on Sat, 08 October 2016, 19:33:57
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 08 October 2016, 20:13:56
I'm not fast enough :(, just hoping for round 2 not even know it will happen or not. :'(
Post by: jeffbolton on Sat, 08 October 2016, 20:20:54
Congrats to the people who got invoices,
I'm not fast enough :(, just hoping for round 2 not even know it will happen or not. :'(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85106.0
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 08 October 2016, 21:06:18
Congrats to the people who got invoices,
I'm not fast enough :(, just hoping for round 2 not even know it will happen or not. :'(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85106.0
Thank you for the info ;)
originally, I love that they have HHKB style in the option and case design is perfect to me.
it really look like TGR keyboard in 60% size with the HHKB style and dark grey color as well.
one of my most wanted keyboard but I have to move on from this.
seem like I have to get 75% size instead(if it actually happen) but that is fine, I love that design no matter size it is.
good bye HHKB :'(
Post by: wodan on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:20:47
GL Wodan! Cheering for you since you brought us the HAD kits :thumb:
Thanks so much for the support! Had to sell my kidney way below market value in a rush but ... paid.
Post by: wodan on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:31:29
good bye HHKB :'(
If you are looking for the HHKB layout, stay tuned for the next round of Viper/Ealge from Duck. Have a look at the last GB thread, this might be a great alternative for you. I was super desperate for the X60 for it's WKL layout support. Not too common in chunky aluminium 60% ...
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 09 October 2016, 01:49:35
good bye HHKB :'(
If you are looking for the HHKB layout, stay tuned for the next round of Viper/Ealge from Duck. Have a look at the last GB thread, this might be a great alternative for you. I was super desperate for the X60 for it's WKL layout support. Not too common in chunky aluminium 60% ...
Thank you buddy, I will not miss again :'(
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 06:59:01
Congrats to the people who got invoices,Xondat said before that there won't be a round 2 but a v2
I'm not fast enough :(, just hoping for round 2 not even know it will happen or not. :'(
And I mean v2 x60
Post by: xondat on Sun, 09 October 2016, 07:00:32
Xondat said before that there won't be a round 2 but a v2Was literally about to say this.
There are a few things I am already working on implementing into V2, there isn't a timeline but it 99% will happen... :))
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 07:02:35
Maybe I will wait for this instead of x75 :thinking:Xondat said before that there won't be a round 2 but a v2Was literally about to say this.
There are a few things I am already working on implementing into V2, there isn't a timeline but it 99% will happen... :))
So many choices :o
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 09 October 2016, 07:47:16
Maybe I will wait for this instead of x75 :thinking:Xondat said before that there won't be a round 2 but a v2Was literally about to say this.
There are a few things I am already working on implementing into V2, there isn't a timeline but it 99% will happen... :))
So many choices :o
They probably launch in the different timeline.
(http://orig05.deviantart.net/8830/f/2016/139/b/0/ancient_aliens_both_by_theporkchopexpress-da316kc.jpg)
Post by: R4WBIT on Sun, 09 October 2016, 13:48:11
Post by: xondat on Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:39:22
Two issues:
- The button on the bottom of the PCB is pressed when the top half is fully screwed in, but taking the housing of the button means it isn't pressed. This will have to be fixed by an indent in the weight.
- The USB hole is barely functional at the minute, I had to take the shrink off my cable by pexon for it to fit, and use a bit of force to get it plugged in. The hole will be made slightly bigger in order to accommodate for as many cables as realistic.
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 09 October 2016, 23:41:26
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 10 October 2016, 01:07:06
Will there be enough clearance for other PCBs? I plan on using the Zeal60!
Looks like the button on the zeal60 is about 2cm away from the the "standard"
(http://puu.sh/rxxnj/6671612502.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0834/6257/products/SAM_3628_grande.jpg?v=1471630300)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/PIQAAOSwA4dWNQs9/s-l500.jpg)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 01:11:06
Will there be enough clearance for other PCBs? I plan on using the Zeal60!
I'm wondering about the NerD60 pcb?
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 10 October 2016, 01:24:02
Will there be enough clearance for other PCBs? I plan on using the Zeal60!
I'm wondering about the NerD60 pcb?
Should be okay. IIRC the NerD60 doesn't have a button to reprogram but makes you hold down a key instead. You might run into troubles if you plan on using bluetooth though
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 01:37:17
Okay, thanksWill there be enough clearance for other PCBs? I plan on using the Zeal60!
I'm wondering about the NerD60 pcb?
Should be okay. IIRC the NerD60 doesn't have a button to reprogram but makes you hold down a key instead. You might run into troubles if you plan on using bluetooth though
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 06:13:40
I'm about to take pictures of the finished build, but just dropping in to say that the cut off for color/case changes is 48 hours from this post. No further changes can be made afterwards.
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 10 October 2016, 06:23:25
ZEAL WHY :(
I'm about to take pictures of the finished build, but just dropping in to say that the cut off for color/case changes is 48 hours from this post. No further changes can be made afterwards.
Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized? I remember it was mentioned earlier to be dark gray.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 11:49:00
(http://i.imgur.com/Q1EL6JC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/P1y3Lbx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c8QV7sY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wecuohX.jpg)
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 11:52:05
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Hnggg, that looks and sounds great!
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 10 October 2016, 11:52:19
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Beautiful
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:14:06
Post by: Khers on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:14:25
Pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j0K8KNE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Q1EL6JC.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P1y3Lbx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c8QV7sY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wecuohX.jpg)
Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:16:03
Black will be hard anodized.Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
Post by: Jemaunji on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:17:10
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Looking nice! :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:18:52
(http://i.imgur.com/ShUnAOF.jpg)
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Post by: romevi on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:27:25
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Dem milky swotches.
Post by: Khers on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:40:52
Thanks!Black will be hard anodized.Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
Does that mean I have to go back to black? "Luckily" I've got 40-odd hours to make my mind up ;)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:58:28
Black will be hard anodized.Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
:(
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:00:13
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:00:37
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:05:47
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:06:10
Post by: wodan on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:07:28
I want hard anodizing, but I also want a grey case.
+1 ;)
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:18:19
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Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:21:43
Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?As far as I know the anodizing is thicker so it's harder to scratch. I'm not too educated on it honestly and I'd be quite happy having no hard anodizing.
Post by: wodan on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:25:58
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:32:17
I want hard anodizing, but I also want a grey case.+1
I have to ask the question: is it a utter dealbreaker if there is no hard anodizing?
Not really a deal breaker for me. But we've always expected it to be hard anodized
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:36:51
Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Type III is slightly harder and significantly thicker than Type II. Colors for Type III will be much more muted, but black should be equally black between the two if it's coming out of a good shop. Some type II anodizing will come out purplish depending on the dye that's used.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:48:19
There is only one definite way of working this out - please fill this form out (https://goo.gl/forms/vCmCMUH3Ahm100OI2). Thanks.
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:50:06
Thanks for the insight, brig.Can someone please explain the pro's/con's of soft vs hard? Aside from the different treatments, is one more 'black'? Is soft prone to more wear/discoloration?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Type III is slightly harder and significantly thicker than Type II. Colors for Type III will be much more muted, but black should be equally black between the two if it's coming out of a good shop. Some type II anodizing will come out purplish depending on the dye that's used.
While I don't see this as a deal breaker if hard wasn't available, I would ideally opt for hard as the consensus is that its the more durable of the two. With the CE being the flagship board in this lineup, I think the hard option further solidifies the premium feel.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:56:15
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:56:46
Does the shop that will be producing the cases even offer hard anodizing?Yes.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 14:54:33
Okay. Well, I mean it's not a absolute deal breaker if grey isn't available with hard anodizing, but of course I'd really, really prefer it to be.Does the shop that will be producing the cases even offer hard anodizing?Yes.
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:01:25
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Post by: jeffbolton on Mon, 10 October 2016, 16:13:50
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 October 2016, 20:19:05
This is where we're at at the minute...
Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 10 October 2016, 20:21:51
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LN6w1Rr.png)
This is where we're at at the minute...
Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.
yes PLEASE. would love an ANSI plate to avoid the hideous reverse L enter cutout
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 10 October 2016, 22:13:17
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LN6w1Rr.png)
This is where we're at at the minute...
Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.
yes PLEASE. would love an ANSI plate to avoid the hideous reverse L enter cutout
+1 :thumb:
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 10 October 2016, 23:16:31
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LN6w1Rr.png)
This is where we're at at the minute...
Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.
Maybe run another survey for this? I'm down for ANSI only
Post by: fendent on Mon, 10 October 2016, 23:22:49
Post by: maximm on Mon, 10 October 2016, 23:39:29
And an ANSI/WKL Red Alu only thanks
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:10:19
If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.
Ps: wil the case be compatible with the JDCCarpe plate available through LeandreN's current GB?
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:13:12
ISO is very important to me.
If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.
This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.
Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways
Post by: Danboard on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:16:40
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:25:06
there's better functionality as well, as ansi only or iso only plates allow for the enter switch to clip into the plate for additional support and stabilityISO is very important to me.
If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.
This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.
Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:28:42
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:33:50
I adressed that concern in the post you quoted. That affects almost the whole bottom row as well as right shift and split backspace cutouts.it doesn't affect the bottom row nor the right shift/backspace cutouts, as switch housing clips in at the top and bottom, not on the sides. even if one goes with pcb mount, there is inconsistencies in peg thickness which can cause switches to be slightly rotated without plate support.
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:35:56
ISO is very important to me.x60 uses a proprietary plate, you won't be able to use any universal plates with it
If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.
Ps: wil the case be compatible with the JDCCarpe plate available through LeandreN's current GB?
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:37:21
there's better functionality as well, as ansi only or iso only plates allow for the enter switch to clip into the plate for additional support and stabilityISO is very important to me.
If you are having issues witi the large cutouts, just get some PCB mount switches for the larger cutouts/stabilized keys. They will align perfectly even without plate guidance. Dropping ISO alltogether would be a big disapointment for me.
This whole ANSI cutout only debate is completely about aesthetics, not about functionality.
Frankly, it doesn't bother me, having large cut outs. It's not like you'll be looking at the board without keycaps anyways
you got me, ansi only plate it is
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:40:32
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:41:17
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:45:18
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LN6w1Rr.png)
This is where we're at at the minute...
Also I'm very tempted to ditch the universal plate and have ANSI or ISO plates (or run the 3 but that'll be even more complicated). The more I work on the plate, the more I come to dislike the ISO cluster. Thoughts everyone? I know the ANSI only plate is what people want so, also, very tempted.
I think we can stop arguing whether or not we should have ansi or iso plates only. It sounds like xondat plans on running the two concurrently
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:49:10
Not sure which PCB mount switches are giving you alignment issues but I've been using harvested Cherry MX switches in all non-1u cutouts for a few builds now with great results and I am very concerned with switch alignment. Cutouts that allow either one stabilized or two non-stabilized keys generally provide insufficient guidance for plate mount switches if you ask me. The stabilizer spacing just leaves half a switch free. Same with bottom row and multiple space bar stabilizer options.it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:02:08
it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate
This worked great for me on Leeku1800, b.face, JD45, OLKB, oddforge PCBs so far. Still have some GON60 PCB waiting to be built from last LeandreN round so I don't have any experience with them yet.
If PCB mount switches fall out of your PCB you might want to report that to the designer/manufacturer. Maybe it's become too unpopular to do PCB mount builds for PCB designers to care but for stabilized keys and multi-layout plates they have become very important to me.
I mean if there's going to be ANY plate with ISO support I am fine. Dropping it now in a majority vote would be a major kick in my face though, that's what I was worried about. See comments above more as a "Use PCB mount switches for any cutout >1u" statement than an ISO vs. ANSI plate argument.
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:12:52
I don't see xondat dropping support for ansi or iso especially after people have made payments with the expectation that the plate will support both. It would just be nice if we got to choose on an individual basis ansi only, iso only, or universal.
it's not just the switch, there are inconsistencies in the peg hole sizes of pcbs. GON nerd60 pcbs tend to have larger peg holes than FaceW for example. I've also noticed that newer cherry switches and zealios tend to have thicker pegs than vintage cherry switches. one of my builds mixed vintage pcb mount cherry switches with nerd 60 pcb and the side pegs were too skinny to even hold the switches in place and definitely failed to keep switches in alignment without a plate
This worked great for me on Leeku1800, b.face, JD45, OLKB, oddforge PCBs so far. Still have some GON60 PCB waiting to be built from last LeandreN round so I don't have any experience with them yet.
If PCB mount switches fall out of your PCB you might want to report that to the designer/manufacturer. Maybe it's become too unpopular to do PCB mount builds for PCB designers to care but for stabilized keys and multi-layout plates they have become very important to me.
I mean if there's going to be ANY plate with ISO support I am fine. Dropping it now in a majority vote would be a major kick in my face though, that's what I was worried about. See comments above more as a "Use PCB mount switches for any cutout >1u" statement than an ISO vs. ANSI plate argument.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:58:19
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 04:01:39
To clarify, there would be ANSI or universal, or another option would be ANSI or ISO plates. I'm not dropping ISO support. This is purely an aesthetic decision.
Phew back to double digit pulse then ;)
If you're offering two options, ANSI _or_ ISO sounds great. People who want to keep it open can still get one of each plate.
Post by: Razer1987 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 05:06:59
To clarify, there would be ANSI or universal, or another option would be ANSI or ISO plates. I'm not dropping ISO support. This is purely an aesthetic decision.
By ISO you mean a classic one like a Filco layout, or there will still be support for 1.5 bottom row, split r-shift, stepped caps lock and split backspace ?
Thanks
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 11 October 2016, 05:15:21
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:04:15
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:09:00
Split right shift
Stepped caps lock
1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/1/1.5 bottom row
If so then that is definitely what i would prefer.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:13:44
I know these screenshots are for X75, but here is the difference. Please only pay attention to the enter cluster, these plates haven't been cleaned up yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/Mn7YO8t.png)
Current
(http://i.imgur.com/Nlatr5F.png)
ANSI
(http://i.imgur.com/2LTUKwQ.png)
ISO
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:16:32
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:17:05
The only thing that will change would be the ISO/ANSI enter cluster. It is simply ineffective to have lots of different plates for the large range of possibilities with the layouts.
I know these screenshots are for X75, but here is the difference. Please only pay attention to the enter cluster, these plates haven't been cleaned up yet.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Mn7YO8t.png)
CurrentShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nlatr5F.png)
ANSIShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/2LTUKwQ.png)
ISO
Would MUCH rather ANSI.
Post by: maximm on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:19:50
So have a Universal plate and ANSI only plate as an option.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 11 October 2016, 07:34:35
Can't we all just agree that ISO is useless and ugly?
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 07:46:15
So much arguing
Can't we all just agree that ISO is useless and ugly?
I wouldn't call it arguing, people are just saying which plate they are interested in. But yes we can agree on that.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 October 2016, 07:47:09
(http://i.imgur.com/E9hpKRJ.png)
Cleaned up the plates - this is what the cluster will 99% look like unless I find a fault.
I'm thinking of ANSI and universal over ANSI and ISO.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 07:51:16
I'm thinking of ANSI and universal over ANSI and ISO.
Sold! Let's do it. Two ANSI for me please :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:42:35
- Anodizing: I am currently figuring out demand and the price increase if I do offer hard anodizing. I'll extend the time period to switch colors/anodizing when I know what's happening.
- Plates: Talking to my contact about having 2 plate options, I should know tomorrow morning once I submit the final files.
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:45:19
Any price increase I'm down to pay for as long as I'm given a heads up. :thumb:
Post by: Brammm87 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:50:09
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:51:32
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:53:23
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 11 October 2016, 12:45:27
Post by: WNovizar on Thu, 13 October 2016, 03:19:44
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 13 October 2016, 06:25:10
To clarify where we're up to:
- Anodizing: I am currently figuring out demand and the price increase if I do offer hard anodizing. I'll extend the time period to switch colors/anodizing when I know what's happening.
- Plates: Talking to my contact about having 2 plate options, I should know tomorrow morning once I submit the final files.
Really hope hard anodizing is not going to be canceled for CE, especially because carbon editoners don't have the chance to switch colors.
If a color that I can't select ends up beeing hard anodized I would honestly regret going with carbon.
Post by: ipreferpie on Thu, 13 October 2016, 06:43:36
To clarify where we're up to:
- Anodizing: I am currently figuring out demand and the price increase if I do offer hard anodizing. I'll extend the time period to switch colors/anodizing when I know what's happening.
- Plates: Talking to my contact about having 2 plate options, I should know tomorrow morning once I submit the final files.
Really hope hard anodizing is not going to be canceled for CE, especially because carbon editoners don't have the chance to switch colors.
If a color that I can't select ends up beeing hard anodized I would honestly regret going with carbon.
Totally agree with that!
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 07:50:10
Agreed as well.To clarify where we're up to:
- Anodizing: I am currently figuring out demand and the price increase if I do offer hard anodizing. I'll extend the time period to switch colors/anodizing when I know what's happening.
- Plates: Talking to my contact about having 2 plate options, I should know tomorrow morning once I submit the final files.
Really hope hard anodizing is not going to be canceled for CE, especially because carbon editoners don't have the chance to switch colors.
If a color that I can't select ends up beeing hard anodized I would honestly regret going with carbon.
Totally agree with that!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:03:08
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:07:45
Something that was never confirmed can't be cancelled so don't worry about that. I'm on my way home so when I do get home I'll explain how I feel about hard anodizing. Its a tough decision to make for multiple reasons.
I'm backing whatever you think is a good idea. I joined without thoughts of hard anodizing and it will not effect my opinion either way.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:08:48
Black will be hard anodized.Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:11:17
Something that was never confirmed can't be cancelled so don't worry about that. I'm on my way home so when I do get home I'll explain how I feel about hard anodizing. Its a tough decision to make for multiple reasons.
I'm backing whatever you think is a good idea. I joined without thoughts of hard anodizing and it will not effect my opinion either way.
+1
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:15:19
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 08:22:40
It was never confirmed for CE...I believe is was deduced that CE would be hard anod as you said black would be hard anod. As CE buyers only have the option for black, it would make sense to assume CE would be hard anod.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:06:13
If I do run it, I'm not willing to run hard anodizing without having examples from the factory as it's harder to do than regular anodizing. This will add about a month onto the whole group buy, it will also take away from the funds I've dedicated to emergencies to pay for said examples. Since the cost for hard anodizing is also higher than regular anodizing, it will eat into funds dedicated to emergencies thus making this riskier. I also might not be satisfied with the hard anodizing, and not chose to run it which will be a waste of time and money.
Thoughts will come and go on how I feel, but I'll dump them here when I think of them.
Post by: pace8500 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:16:03
If I go with hard anodizing, I will have to make it available for both Black and Dark Gray to satisfy the largest majority. I will not be supporting hard anodizing in the future, and this will be a one time thing that I will do only because a few people are making me feel guilty; I don't want to run hard anodizing. It makes things much harder for me overall, and there is absolutely no need. There will always be someone to say it's not fair if I don't offer it to the color they chose.
If I do run it, I'm not willing to run hard anodizing without having examples from the factory as it's harder to do than regular anodizing. This will add about a month onto the whole group buy, it will also take away from the funds I've dedicated to emergencies to pay for said examples. Since the cost for hard anodizing is also higher than regular anodizing, it will eat into funds dedicated to emergencies thus making this riskier. I also might not be satisfied with the hard anodizing, and not chose to run it which will be a waste of time and money.
Thoughts will come and go on how I feel, but I'll dump them here when I think of them.
On the basis of this i vote to remove hard anodizing as an option. I didn't expect it when i entered into the group buy so i do not really see it as a loss if you decide to remove it as an option now.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:21:21
If I go with hard anodizing, I will have to make it available for both Black and Dark Gray to satisfy the largest majority. I will not be supporting hard anodizing in the future, and this will be a one time thing that I will do only because a few people are making me feel guilty; I don't want to run hard anodizing. It makes things much harder for me overall, and there is absolutely no need. There will always be someone to say it's not fair if I don't offer it to the color they chose.
If I do run it, I'm not willing to run hard anodizing without having examples from the factory as it's harder to do than regular anodizing. This will add about a month onto the whole group buy, it will also take away from the funds I've dedicated to emergencies to pay for said examples. Since the cost for hard anodizing is also higher than regular anodizing, it will eat into funds dedicated to emergencies thus making this riskier. I also might not be satisfied with the hard anodizing, and not chose to run it which will be a waste of time and money.
Thoughts will come and go on how I feel, but I'll dump them here when I think of them.
I really don't think the hard anodizing is necessary. From the get go it was not supported. There was recent mention of it but why that is being taken as a confirmation is confusing to me. I think the best option is to keep the group buy on track and how it was originally planned.
On the other hand I'm not opposed to ANSI and universal/ISO plates. I will use universal if that's the only option and I will use ANSI if that becomes an option. Either way it doesn't actually effect me. I made my purchase when there was just a universal plate and that's what I expected. If you support other options that's just a plus, but if it impacts emergency funds or timeline I don't see it as necessary.
Personally I think the amount of time you have put into this project shows your dedication to delivering an amazing product to us. We as the buyers should respect your decisions as final. "The customer is always right" is not always the case. But that's just one man's opinion. Keep up the good work xondat! :thumb:
Post by: wodan on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:29:08
On the basis of this i vote to remove hard anodizing as an option. I didn't expect it when i entered into the group buy so i do not really see it as a loss if you decide to remove it as an option now.+1
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:47:08
There was recent mention of it but why that is being taken as a confirmation is confusing to me.
Black will be hard anodized.Did you receive the confirmation if what case color should be hard anodized?I'd like to know this as well
Not entirely sure how Xondat's comment can come across as confusing :rolleyes:
Xondat,
It was not my intention for my past comments to come across in such a way to guilt trip you into making a decision. My apologies in advance if it was portrayed in such a manner. What I was trying to get across was the following, if hard anodizing is a possibility, I would think it would be available to the flagship board/color over a secondary color option. As the carbon purchasers only have an option for black, it seems odd that a secondary color is receiving a more premium surface treatment.
That being said, I've previously said that hard anodizing is not a deal breaker for me, and it isn't. As others have mentioned, I entered this GB without the expectations of hard anodizing and am completely fine with that. Overall, I think you're doing a fantastic job with this GB and am looking forward to this board quite a bit. You've addressed everyone's concerns in a timely manner while making some improvements to the design along the way. Personally, I wouldn't mind if you just dump the hard anod. option all together.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 13 October 2016, 10:43:24
I really don't think the hard anodizing is necessary. From the get go it was not supported. There was recent mention of it but why that is being taken as a confirmation is confusing to me. I think the best option is to keep the group buy on track and how it was originally planned.
FYI, it was not just a recent mention. It was mentioned in the early stage of the IC that's why I was confirming it recently.
Yay regular 60%. By any chance will these be hard anodized?Working on getting at least one color hard.
I am not against dropping the hard anodized option but having it as an option is good in my opinion. My concern is long term durability that's why I was interested if it is getting supported.I'll leave it to xondat's good judgement for the best of all.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 October 2016, 17:34:49
(http://i.imgur.com/U6omZmx.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/25XWJtl.png)
This might be the new USB hole/port/thing. The inner hole is the current size pushed back 5mm so that most connectors that aren't overly sized can fit and then the outer is 12 by 9mm. This is really tearing me apart because everything always looks worse in CAD without the physical scale, but it shouldn't be too big of a change - of course it's positive.
Just a side note, the holes on the bottom (you can see in the last picture) that are designed for the feet fit perfectly, and each board will come with 4 :-*
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 13 October 2016, 17:36:39
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:52:18
This video has a good example at 1:10
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:13:41
I need to get the order to the factory confirmed, so all changes to your order can only be made up to 48 hours from now, this includes top pieces, colors, plates.
To change your plate, please message me here with this format:
Code: [Select]
Subject: X60 ANSI CHANGE - ORDER NUMBER
Body: USERNAME, ORDER NUMBER, CURRENT PLATE, ANSI COLORExample:
Code: [Select]
Subject: X60 ANSI CHANGE - 16
Body: xondat, 16, red, ansiREDYou will receive confirmation once this has been changed.
To add a plate, please message me here with this format:
Code: [Select]
Subject: X60 ANSI ADD - ORDER NUMBER
Body: USERNAME, ORDER NUMBER, ANSI PLATEExample:
Code: [Select]
Subject: X60 ANSI ADD - 16
Body: xondat, 16, ansiSSYou will receive an invoice and will only be added once this has been paid, then you will receive confirmation.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:17:03
I remember people discussing if all people into CE would prefer ansi, so it could just be done complete ansi only.
Would prefer ansi but don't really mind either way, just wondering.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:19:18
Is Carbon edition going to be universal?
I remember people discussing if all people into CE would prefer ansi, so it could just be done complete ansi only.
Would prefer ansi but don't really mind either way, just wondering.
Sorry my bad, you get to chose.
Post by: wodan on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:20:52
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:24:04
Is Carbon edition going to be universal?
I remember people discussing if all people into CE would prefer ansi, so it could just be done complete ansi only.
Would prefer ansi but don't really mind either way, just wondering.
Sorry my bad, you get to chose.
Thx xondat!
Sorry for bothering you, but ansi plates will support split backspace, right?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:30:19
(http://i.imgur.com/5D7wXOv.png)
Only difference is the enter cluster.
Post by: valro46 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:53:02
Do you also made it for 87 and fullsize
I'm not the fans of hhkb layout, that makes me sick when typing... but this is great
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 07:59:08
Wow, this is very awesome, both the material looks and design...Thanks. My next board will be X75 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85106), and X65 afterwards so there are currently no plans for this style in a 80% or 100% layout.
Do you also made it for 87 and fullsize
I'm not the fans of hhkb layout, that makes me sick when typing... but this is great
Post by: wodan on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:04:35
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/redscarf-78-custom-mechanical-keyboard/MD-21599_20160614120104_4f979c415ae0f161.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
That's a favourite layout of mine and would look awesome in the X-line.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:10:00
Would you consider doing a 65+10 layout like this:Would I consider? Yes. Would I do it? Probably not. It would require PCB development, I'm trying this for X65 so we'll see how it goes, but I'm personally not keen on that layout.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/redscarf-78-custom-mechanical-keyboard/MD-21599_20160614120104_4f979c415ae0f161.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
That's a favourite layout of mine and would look awesome in the X-line.
Post by: R4WBIT on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:38:39
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:43:21
Calling out to any plate specialists out there. Is there a difference between the aluminum and stainless plates in regards to feeling/sound? Or is it only an aesthetic choice?The flex is the main thing, the SS plate barely, if at all, flexes whereas the aluminum plate is easily flexed.
Post by: Butter on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:18:31
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:30:11
Do I need to message you anything if I want to keep everything the same with ansi plate?Not sure I follow.
If there is a change, I need to know.
Post by: Butter on Fri, 14 October 2016, 09:32:00
I don't need any change. Sorry.Do I need to message you anything if I want to keep everything the same with ansi plate?Not sure I follow.
If there is a change, I need to know.
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 10:40:33
Post by: xondat on Fri, 14 October 2016, 12:35:12
Also to note, your order number is the row number on the spreadsheet. Also also to note, the default plate is the universal plate (as it always has been), if you have a Red plate currently, and want an ANSI Red plate, then you have to message me.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 15 October 2016, 18:18:58
- Final changes for everything will be 23:59 10/16/2016 BST.
- I haven't forgotten about engravings, but I have been working on the design and fonts with my person. I'm happy with everything but we are still finalizing everything, hopefully I have it done by tomorrow night.
- I've finalized the design of all files and I'm just waiting on confirmation from the factory that all is good. This means production should start on Monday.
- Numbers haven't been finalized for slots or plates, mainly because I want to open more spots open, but again, I'm waiting confirmation from the factory that this is okay. There are currently 4 spots open, but I want to extend to either 75 or 100 overall.
- Will be getting a prototype for X75, X65 and a newer project. This will all be with the 70+ X60s.
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 15 October 2016, 21:01:35
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 16 October 2016, 08:42:21
Up to date again. Few things to mention tonight::)
- Final changes for everything will be 23:59 10/16/2016 BST.
- I haven't forgotten about engravings, but I have been working on the design and fonts with my person. I'm happy with everything but we are still finalizing everything, hopefully I have it done by tomorrow night.
- I've finalized the design of all files and I'm just waiting on confirmation from the factory that all is good. This means production should start on Monday.
- Numbers haven't been finalized for slots or plates, mainly because I want to open more spots open, but again, I'm waiting confirmation from the factory that this is okay. There are currently 4 spots open, but I want to extend to either 75 or 100 overall.
- Will be getting a prototype for X75, X65 and a newer project. This will all be with the 70+ X60s.
What's the status for hard anodizing?
It was never really disclosed afaik...
Post by: xondat on Sun, 16 October 2016, 09:18:45
What's the status for hard anodizing?Don't bet on it. I'll make my mind up for certain tonight, but it's looking like no hard anodizing.
It was never really disclosed afaik...
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 16 October 2016, 09:24:56
What's the status for hard anodizing?Don't bet on it. I'll make my mind up for certain tonight, but it's looking like no hard anodizing.
It was never really disclosed afaik...
I understand and was almost expecting no anod by now, but I'm still hoping tbh.
I just feel like it would add so much to the quality feel and longevity of the board that it's sad to ditch it.
Totally wouldn't mind waiting more or paying extra for it personally.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 16 October 2016, 09:56:19
What's the status for hard anodizing?Don't bet on it. I'll make my mind up for certain tonight, but it's looking like no hard anodizing.
It was never really disclosed afaik...
I understand and was almost expecting no anod by now, but I'm still hoping tbh.
I just feel like it would add so much to the quality feel and longevity of the board that it's sad to ditch it.
Totally wouldn't mind waiting more or paying extra for it personally.
I totally agree with you. I rather pay an extra now rather than readonize later due to random scratches/chipping.
Xondat, do we have a figure or estimate for the hard anod?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 16 October 2016, 17:10:04
- Form is back up for additional slots - if you've filled it in previously, please fill it in again due to new options. There are plenty of slots to go around, but I will only be keeping this open 48 hours. Find the form here (https://goo.gl/forms/B4GwMBK8k26JwPnO2).
- No hard anodizing - I don't fancy adding time and money into something I don't believe in. Although a small crowd want it and would pay/wait for it, I don't think the others would appreciate the extension to satisfy a smaller crowd.
- ANSI plates - I will extend these 48 hours due to the popularity, we're getting close to them overtaking the universal plates.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:05:01
ANSI Plates/Universal Plates - 45/39
Safe to say many people were waiting... Once again, up to date. I'll be invoicing the people from the form soon, so keep an eye out for that.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:24:59
Post by: wodan on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:43:51
Paypal is terrible with emails today, maybe log in and check if you want to pay in time!
Post by: xondat on Mon, 17 October 2016, 15:49:03
Paid!I noticed that too... Only just got my email confirming my payment for the bro sale :-\
Paypal is terrible with emails today, maybe log in and check if you want to pay in time!
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:07:05
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Post by: mmdango on Mon, 17 October 2016, 16:08:41
Paid!
Paypal is terrible with emails today, maybe log in and check if you want to pay in time!
Thanks for that tip. I didn't get an email either, but the invoice showed up on my PayPal account
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 17 October 2016, 19:35:40
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 18 October 2016, 01:21:54
PPAID :-\
Post by: pexon on Tue, 18 October 2016, 03:30:05
Post by: wodan on Tue, 18 October 2016, 03:49:13
Xondat brah, whats the timescale on this? I wanna chuck a few cables in to random people if thats cool?
I am fully retarded when it comes to matching colors ... if you have anything matching Classic Beige/Dark Grey, sign me up ;)
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 18 October 2016, 05:23:09
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 18 October 2016, 06:54:46
Xondat brah, whats the timescale on this? I wanna chuck a few cables in to random people if thats cool?
Ouu how nice of you pexon! Hope I'm a lucky winner!
Post by: wodan on Tue, 18 October 2016, 10:12:00
I noticed that too... Only just got my email confirming my payment for the bro sale :-\
Paypal email about your invoice JUST arrived.
Post by: pexon on Tue, 18 October 2016, 12:32:32
Xondat brah, whats the timescale on this? I wanna chuck a few cables in to random people if thats cool?
Ouu how nice of you pexon! Hope I'm a lucky winner!
I will contact Xonbro and see if we can work something out :thumb:
Post by: DanB on Tue, 18 October 2016, 14:29:27
Post by: tuba section on Tue, 18 October 2016, 14:46:29
Post by: modulationz on Tue, 18 October 2016, 16:49:19
Post by: fendent on Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:10:57
Xondat brah, whats the timescale on this? I wanna chuck a few cables in to random people if thats cool?
Oh heck yeah! That's awesome!
Post by: xondat on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:04:28
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:16:03
Currently waiting on the engraving designs and then we'll head into production. Changes can still be made, but get it done ASAP otherwise it may be too late (can't provide an actual deadline as it might be very sudden). Several slots are still open, so the form stays open as I fill them up.
Are you ordering the extra boards regardless of whether or not you get people to fill the spot? And can't wait to see the engravings :)
Also will the production and shipping be 40-30-30 or will it be the lump sum 100?
Post by: wodan on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:19:11
Pretty sure those keyboards can be sold with a profit ... unfortunately, that's not how it works for me. Never sold any of _my_ keyboards.
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:23:49
Stayed up till 2am for my first slot and now there's slots freely available ... don't tempt xondat ...
Pretty sure those keyboards can be sold with a profit ... unfortunately, that's not how it works for me. Never sold any of _my_ keyboards.
That's how I see it too, but I don't want to be a :dolphin:.
I just finally started cleaning house and reducing the number of boards I have..
Post by: wodan on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:25:56
That's how I see it too, but I don't want to be a :dolphin:.
I just finally started cleaning house and reducing the number of boards I have..
Don't you want a baby brother for that Mech27?
Post by: JulienC on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:31:11
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:33:16
That's how I see it too, but I don't want to be a :dolphin:.
I just finally started cleaning house and reducing the number of boards I have..
Don't you want a baby brother for that Mech27?
I'm already getting both. Two plates for each. :p
I see some Purple and Dark Blue on the order sheet, are those new anodizing colors ?
I think those are custom colors for matching GMK Hydro and Zealio. I could be wrong though. Xondat can correct me :p
Post by: xondat on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:36:25
I see some Purple and Dark Blue on the order sheet, are those new anodizing colors ?The public spreadsheet happens to be where I track all colors for all the parts etc. They aren't open to anyone ^-^
Post by: appleonama on Wed, 19 October 2016, 13:51:20
I didn't even know I had received an invoice :'(
Post by: xondat on Wed, 19 October 2016, 14:51:53
What? I just got an email canceling an invoice?I'll resend it, I forgot PayPal was being iffy for some people still.
I didn't even know I had received an invoice :'(
Post by: xondat on Fri, 21 October 2016, 07:20:12
Post by: jeffbolton on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:14:24
Dropping in to say that I'm still waiting on the engraving. I've asked my contact if we can start production on all parts but the weight, so I'm waiting (:rolleyes:) for his reply. I hope everyone can understand why I'm holding back; certainly don't want to engrave a design onto close to 100 boards that I don't like.
I think its better to get it right. Just curious, is everything still set to be completed in November?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 21 October 2016, 09:34:58
Just curious, is everything still set to be completed in November?As in me having parts on hand? Yes, but every day I spend making the engraving perfect, 1 more day is added as a "delay".
In other news, I'm wrapping up the payment with winkeyless.kr for the PCBs.
If anyone knows how to get a .igs file to .dxf, help me (please)! The CF place seem to only take .dxf, but I cannot export into .dxf (.dxf is 2D, .igs/CAD files are 3D).
Post by: cicada on Sun, 23 October 2016, 05:06:03
Post by: xondat on Sun, 23 October 2016, 16:56:49
Post by: xondat on Mon, 24 October 2016, 06:29:19
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 24 October 2016, 06:33:15
We'll start production on everything but the weight to minimize the timeline. Should start around 24 hours from now. I'll be sending a few invoices out today too.
The hype is real! Hope everything goes smoothly xondat!
Post by: fendent on Mon, 24 October 2016, 09:23:25
We'll start production on everything but the weight to minimize the timeline. Should start around 24 hours from now. I'll be sending a few invoices out today too.
Pretty excited!
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 24 October 2016, 10:13:19
We'll start production on everything but the weight to minimize the timeline. Should start around 24 hours from now. I'll be sending a few invoices out today too.
Awesome! Everyone's excited.
Do you have an estimate of the new timeline?
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 25 October 2016, 01:35:15
We'll start production on everything but the weight to minimize the timeline. Should start around 24 hours from now. I'll be sending a few invoices out today too.
(http://i.giphy.com/9jEaPxN9eZWmI.gif)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:28:41
- HHKB, WKL, 60, ANSI, UNI, Bottom have all gone into production. Only the weight hasn't.
- I am very close to finalizing the weight engraving with my designer, I keep changing my mind so... I'll publish it as soon as I'm happy with it.
- PCBs from winkeyless will ship next week.
- If you go to the numbers sheet on the public spreadsheet, you can see what is being made. All of those are final.
- New timeline? Not too sure at the minute due to me being fussy about the engraving design. Sorry.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:34:27
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 26 October 2016, 11:22:48
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Post by: jerue on Sat, 29 October 2016, 09:39:45
(https://media.giphy.com/media/MGUjbUMBgSD2U/giphy.gif)
excited for mine though :)
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 29 October 2016, 22:36:27
tfw I check the thread and see that purple cases are being madeShow Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/MGUjbUMBgSD2U/giphy.gif)
excited for mine though :)
I feel your pain! I wanted a purple case really badly too.
Overall, I can't wait for this! I'm going to make one just like Xon's, with Gateron Blacks and everything!...Except the pricey unicorn called Hyperfuse DSA. I wasn't around when that was released, sadly.
Is everyone going to post pictures of their creation when the time comes?! :D
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 29 October 2016, 23:11:24
I picked up 2 of these bad boys and can hardly wait til they come in. I think I'm gonna sell off everything else cause these two will probably be my endgames
My 1st board is the carbon edition, so I'm gonna go the whole nine yards with it. I picked up a Zeal60 PCB, zeal stabs, and zealencios just for it. I'm still deciding whether or not I should do a spring swap with gateron yellows into gateron black housings or just roll with gateron yellows.
For the 2nd board, I'm thinking of having an Alps plate made so I can use an Alps64 pcb and SKCL greens
Post by: xondat on Sun, 30 October 2016, 19:03:21
- HHKB in Black with ANSI Stainless Steel and ANSI Gold plates
- 60% in Dark Gray with ANSI Stainless Steel and ANSI Red and a PCB
Side note, production is going well, no issues reported so far.
Post by: fendent on Tue, 01 November 2016, 11:16:43
(http://i.imgur.com/VFECrqX.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 02 November 2016, 12:05:52
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 02 November 2016, 12:14:51
The 60% as noted above is still available. If you don't want the PCB and/or one of the plates then that's fine, not too bothered as I want an extra plate :rolleyes: Please PM me your PayPal address and noting that you're interested if you are.
Someone please buy the case so I can have the PCB :D
Post by: xondat on Wed, 02 November 2016, 12:47:47
Post by: oatmicro on Wed, 02 November 2016, 22:35:38
Two slots up for grabs:You cannot change the options as the order has already been placed with the factory. PM me if you're interested in either spot and you can pay immediately.
- HHKB in Black with ANSI Stainless Steel and ANSI Gold plates
- 60% in Dark Gray with ANSI Stainless Steel and ANSI Red and a PCB
Side note, production is going well, no issues reported so far.
I have someone wanting the PCB, and another wanting the ANSI Gold plate, so whoever wants the 60% Black case with a ANSI SS plate then it's yours, but you can have whatever options are available (if that makes sense).
the upper quote had said the Black case was HHKB and 60% was Dark Grey but why the last post is saying the Black case is 60%.
or the last one is the third slot.
(http://emoji-38d7.kxcdn.com/share/1f914.png)
Post by: gzprime on Thu, 03 November 2016, 00:45:44
Up to date again. Few things to mention tonight::)
- Final changes for everything will be 23:59 10/16/2016 BST.
- I haven't forgotten about engravings, but I have been working on the design and fonts with my person. I'm happy with everything but we are still finalizing everything, hopefully I have it done by tomorrow night.
- I've finalized the design of all files and I'm just waiting on confirmation from the factory that all is good. This means production should start on Monday.
- Numbers haven't been finalized for slots or plates, mainly because I want to open more spots open, but again, I'm waiting confirmation from the factory that this is okay. There are currently 4 spots open, but I want to extend to either 75 or 100 overall.
- Will be getting a prototype for X75, X65 and a newer project. This will all be with the 70+ X60s.
What type of timeline are we looking at for an X75? Trying to plan ahead. :)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 03 November 2016, 08:43:40
the upper quote had said the Black case was HHKB and 60% was Dark Grey but why the last post is saying the Black case is 60%.I just can't read ^-^
or the last one is the third slot.
What type of timeline are we looking at for an X75? Trying to plan ahead. :)After the first 40 ship from this I'll probably open it, definitely want to have it open this year. Very soon unless something goes terribly wrong (not sure what).
All 100 spots are now taken. No more will be made. I will personally have 11, I'll definitely be keeping my personal 06/30 FE, although I probably will sell the others later on.
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 03 November 2016, 09:32:25
the upper quote had said the Black case was HHKB and 60% was Dark Grey but why the last post is saying the Black case is 60%.I just can't read ^-^
or the last one is the third slot.What type of timeline are we looking at for an X75? Trying to plan ahead. :)After the first 40 ship from this I'll probably open it, definitely want to have it open this year. Very soon unless something goes terribly wrong (not sure what).
All 100 spots are now taken. No more will be made. I will personally have 11, I'll definitely be keeping my personal 06/30 FE, although I probably will sell the others later on.
Good to hear! Any idea on when we might expect pretty weight drawings/renders? :p
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 06 November 2016, 21:29:05
Good to hear! Any idea on when we might expect pretty weight drawings/renders? :p
^^ And is there an update for the new projected shipping date?
Post by: efwersdfgg on Mon, 07 November 2016, 16:57:57
the upper quote had said the Black case was HHKB and 60% was Dark Grey but why the last post is saying the Black case is 60%.I just can't read ^-^
or the last one is the third slot.What type of timeline are we looking at for an X75? Trying to plan ahead. :)After the first 40 ship from this I'll probably open it, definitely want to have it open this year. Very soon unless something goes terribly wrong (not sure what).
All 100 spots are now taken. No more will be made. I will personally have 11, I'll definitely be keeping my personal 06/30 FE, although I probably will sell the others later on.
Good to hear! Any idea on when we might expect pretty weight drawings/renders? :p
xondat leaked this pretty drawing to me
Post by: wodan on Tue, 08 November 2016, 01:19:51
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 08 November 2016, 01:38:28
Post by: jessica on Tue, 08 November 2016, 01:46:03
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 10 November 2016, 14:23:39
The hype is real.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 10 November 2016, 14:49:54
Hoping this arrives around when the zeal60 does!
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 11 November 2016, 01:25:33
Any updates?
Hoping this arrives around when the zeal60 does!
Way to rub in that I didn't get a zeal 60... =(
Updates would be nice tho! Got kinda quite around here lately
Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 November 2016, 05:37:26
Any idea on when we might expect pretty weight drawings/renders? :pHopefully by Sunday night, depends on how busy my designer is.
And is there an update for the new projected shipping date?Until the weights are in production, no. All depends on how quickly I can get the files from the designer now.
The question from me: will the engraving be on the top of the weight or the bottom?There will be X60 on the bottom, and the details will be on the other side, inside.
Any updates?See above ;)
In slightly other news, my board made it to the votes for KOTM (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85754). It was quiet last month, so make sure to get your vote in this month.
Post by: Jumie on Fri, 11 November 2016, 13:31:52
Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 November 2016, 16:20:57
Can I add additional plate at this time?No as they've been ordered/made, sorry.
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 14 November 2016, 22:03:42
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 14 November 2016, 22:59:14
Post by: jessica on Mon, 14 November 2016, 23:01:36
With the design of the weight not finished yet, how long would it add up to the timeline? Is it safe to say we can't get the case shipped before end of the year?
Oh man, don't say that. That's just upsetting. D:
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 16 November 2016, 06:27:39
With the design of the weight not finished yet, how long would it add up to the timeline? Is it safe to say we can't get the case shipped before end of the year?
Oh man, don't say that. That's just upsetting. D:
Agreed. I was expecting to have this before the Mech27-TKL, though that isn't completely out of the question yet.
Post by: joey on Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:11:04
Post by: Khers on Wed, 16 November 2016, 07:45:21
Surely I'm not the only one that ignores GB timelines? :PGB timelines are like election pledges; luring the unassuming, never to be kept. Fun to watch post-buy though
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 16 November 2016, 08:00:28
Post by: xondat on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:58:48
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 17 November 2016, 12:59:33
**** ignore me
no
Post by: jessica on Thu, 17 November 2016, 13:08:08
Whilst I don't have the weight engraving set in stone, I won't be setting a timeline. Once I announce it and have it approved for production, it will take 2 weeks to make all 100, allow a week for shipping and then another week or two for me to ship all out.
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
H A W T
So excited for this board, can hardly wait.
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 17 November 2016, 13:41:04
Whilst I don't have the weight engraving set in stone, I won't be setting a timeline. Once I announce it and have it approved for production, it will take 2 weeks to make all 100, allow a week for shipping and then another week or two for me to ship all out.
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
With the projected time frames, we're looking at 5 weeks at the minimum if the design was to be approved today. As that lands us right in the middle of the busiest shipping period of the year, it's likely that this board wont be arriving till early next year.
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 17 November 2016, 16:00:19
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 17 November 2016, 16:41:48
Whilst I don't have the weight engraving set in stone, I won't be setting a timeline. Once I announce it and have it approved for production, it will take 2 weeks to make all 100, allow a week for shipping and then another week or two for me to ship all out.
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
Can't wait. Then just gotta wait for my Mint green/blue NerD60 to arrive.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 17 November 2016, 22:19:14
Whilst I don't have the weight engraving set in stone, I won't be setting a timeline. Once I announce it and have it approved for production, it will take 2 weeks to make all 100, allow a week for shipping and then another week or two for me to ship all out.
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
With the projected time frames, we're looking at 5 weeks at the minimum if the design was to be approved today. As that lands us right in the middle of the busiest shipping period of the year, it's likely that this board wont be arriving till early next year.
ouch
Post by: jerue on Fri, 18 November 2016, 10:02:16
Whilst I don't have the weight engraving set in stone, I won't be setting a timeline. Once I announce it and have it approved for production, it will take 2 weeks to make all 100, allow a week for shipping and then another week or two for me to ship all out.
All parts have been machined, anodized, and prepared for shipping now. They're just waiting on the final weight design, as we all are.
With the projected time frames, we're looking at 5 weeks at the minimum if the design was to be approved today. As that lands us right in the middle of the busiest shipping period of the year, it's likely that this board wont be arriving till early next year.
more time for me to admire all of my NIB components before..ya know..they aren't NIB anymore :))
Post by: xondat on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:22:03
I did get some "renders", but it's in a layout I've since changed from, and it was just a mockup so it isn't really worth too much.
I'm thinking of giving away some items via raffle as an apology-sort-of-thing. So far I'm thinking 10 cables by Pexon (and you can choose the options), maybe some stabiliser sets too? Post your suggestions and I'll try and pull some stuff together; nothing too expensive, aim around $10-50 (less expensive = more items, more expensive = less items)!
Post by: tuba section on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:30:10
My apologies for the extension on the wait. I really want to get this right, and I hope everyone understands that.
I did get some "renders", but it's in a layout I've since changed from, and it was just a mockup so it isn't really worth too much.
I'm thinking of giving away some items via raffle as an apology-sort-of-thing. So far I'm thinking 10 cables by Pexon (and you can choose the options), maybe some stabiliser sets too? Post your suggestions and I'll try and pull some stuff together; nothing too expensive, aim around $10-50 (less expensive = more items, more expensive = less items)!
Cables and stabs sound :ok_hand:. I'm not stressing about the wait at all, take your time and we will all be super pumped when they get to us. Thanks for the design, the buy, and the updates!
Post by: fendent on Sun, 20 November 2016, 21:44:03
Post by: jessica on Sun, 20 November 2016, 21:56:10
My apologies for the extension on the wait. I really want to get this right, and I hope everyone understands that.
I did get some "renders", but it's in a layout I've since changed from, and it was just a mockup so it isn't really worth too much.
I'm thinking of giving away some items via raffle as an apology-sort-of-thing. So far I'm thinking 10 cables by Pexon (and you can choose the options), maybe some stabiliser sets too? Post your suggestions and I'll try and pull some stuff together; nothing too expensive, aim around $10-50 (less expensive = more items, more expensive = less items)!
I'd rather wait and get a board you, the creator, are happy with. I think most of us feel the same way since we're all in this together. Now, if you wanna throw in some extra stuff to make yourself and everyone else feel better, I don't think anyone here would be opposed to that.
Keep up the good stuff, Xondat.
Post by: SixtyLife on Sun, 20 November 2016, 23:34:59
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 21 November 2016, 07:34:34
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 21 November 2016, 07:57:03
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 21 November 2016, 12:15:49
Post by: fendent on Sat, 26 November 2016, 19:49:41
Post by: xondat on Sun, 27 November 2016, 10:09:20
(http://i.imgur.com/cFXmrlO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ENjtNr3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1oSrS0w.jpg)
This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.
I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.
Post by: PriusProblems on Sun, 27 November 2016, 10:58:45
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SNyVPcr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cFXmrlO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ENjtNr3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1oSrS0w.jpg)
This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.
I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.
I love it! Definitely needs the "cases" in there though.
I haven't been following this for a while, is Noxary the manufacturer?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:10:51
I haven't been following this for a while, is Noxary the manufacturer?Noxary is me and my work. It's easier to understand when you draw a comparison, so Keyclack is jchan; TGR is yuktsi; and RAMA WORKS is Rama.
It'll never be a main part of the naming, so future titles will be along the lines of "[GB] X65" etc, but when my store is up, and when all the cases are out, I need something to put it all under.
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:13:54
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:18:51
I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides.
Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:20:31
Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.I meant the spacing of the text, as the NOXARY is more spaced out compared to the other text.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:33:39
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SNyVPcr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cFXmrlO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ENjtNr3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1oSrS0w.jpg)
This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.
I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.
Glad to see an update on the weight design! =)
I'm sorry to bring this up, but to be perfectly honest I'm not a fan of the font used and the way it's layed out tho.
I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
To me it looks like a pretty square logo slapped in the middle of the rather long weight.
Just my two cents of course, so if no one shares my opinion I'm ok with that.
Not trying to cause trouble here just my honest opinion.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 27 November 2016, 11:39:45
I think the letter spacing is ok, I would however change the font weight of "NOXARY". Perhaps add a little weight to emphasize the branding.Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.I meant the spacing of the text, as the NOXARY is more spaced out compared to the other text.
If changing the font weight is out of the question, then yes, unify the letter spacing.
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Post by: Jemaunji on Sun, 27 November 2016, 16:12:34
Post by: logomachy on Sun, 27 November 2016, 16:36:42
I agree. Off center bottom logo.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SNyVPcr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cFXmrlO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ENjtNr3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1oSrS0w.jpg)
This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.
I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.
Glad to see an update on the weight design! =)
I'm sorry to bring this up, but to be perfectly honest I'm not a fan of the font used and the way it's layed out tho.
I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
To me it looks like a pretty square logo slapped in the middle of the rather long weight.
Just my two cents of course, so if no one shares my opinion I'm ok with that.
Not trying to cause trouble here just my honest opinion.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.
Maybe left aligned inside text without variable spacing.
And LIMITED EDITION OF 100 imo
Post by: xondat on Mon, 28 November 2016, 05:52:05
I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.
I agree. Off center bottom logo.As above, a crappy paint mockup would help here in visualizing it.
Maybe left aligned inside text without variable spacing.
I think the letter spacing is ok, I would however change the font weight of "NOXARY". Perhaps add a little weight to emphasize the branding.Got it - good idea.
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 28 November 2016, 06:54:08
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SNyVPcr.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cFXmrlO.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ENjtNr3.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1oSrS0w.jpg)
This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.
I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.
man, thanks for hard work for community :thumb: :thumb:
Can I make a small suggestion?
For my it seems to me a little unnatural arrangement of the font stretched vertically on such big horisontal space, it may cost a little stretch horizontally?
(http://i.imgur.com/TFeiK21.png)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 28 November 2016, 06:57:56
I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.
Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was refering to. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/69bQh3N.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/a0L2fQT.jpg)
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Mon, 28 November 2016, 07:07:43
I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.
Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was refering to. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/69bQh3N.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/a0L2fQT.jpg)
Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.
Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 28 November 2016, 07:14:30
Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.
Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.
The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned aswell.
Heres a centered version for refference :)
(http://i.imgur.com/lIEmLIr.jpg)
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 28 November 2016, 07:44:36
Post by: pace8500 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 07:47:47
Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.
Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.
The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned aswell.
Heres a centered version for refference :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lIEmLIr.jpg)
Great work with the mock ups but I much prefer the original font to this. It has something distinctive about it that I like.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 28 November 2016, 07:55:13
Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was referring to. :)Unfortunately to some, the font isn't going to change. The things that can change is the weight, the spacing, and the layout of the text. I'm not a fan of the offset X60, it just looks out of place and holds no purpose. Thanks for the mockups.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/69bQh3N.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/a0L2fQT.jpg)
Can I make a small suggestion?I don't think stretching the font would look as nice; perhaps increasing the spacing to give the appearance of a longer font may work. I'll come back with some alternate spacing and give that a go.
For my it seems to me a little unnatural arrangement of the font stretched vertically on such big horizontal space, it may cost a little stretch horizontally?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TFeiK21.png)
Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.3 months in and I found the font (and complete design) I like, so I think spacing is the one thing that can change at this time.
Only thing I'm worried about is the increased time. xondat spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. I'm a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.
The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.As said above, I think increasing the spacing is the way forward here.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned as well.
Here's a centered version for reference :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lIEmLIr.jpg)
When do you expect to see a final prototype of the weight xondat?I'll send over the feedback I got here and get a final design soon, hopefully. After that it's a 1-3 week sample production. The sample weights will ship with the finished parts, so up to 4 weeks from when I get the final design I'd say.
I'm not too sure if this has been shared, but this is the final logo and branding that I'll be using in the future. Spacing and weight can change, but we'll keep playing around with the weights.
(http://i.imgur.com/QGhor1X.png)
Post by: wodan on Mon, 28 November 2016, 08:00:39
When do you expect to see a final prototype of the weight xondat?
*nods*
I'm glad 7bit taught me patience. Linearity of time is cruel
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:47:56
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 28 November 2016, 10:50:38
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 28 November 2016, 11:07:30
The original looks best imo
Agreed. I quite like the look of the original plate.
My vote is for "Limited to 100" or "Limited Edition - 100 Cases" and again, like the typeface you've gone with there.
Thanks for the chance to give input, Xondat.
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 11:12:59
(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 28 November 2016, 11:24:11
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Love it! Huge improvement compared to the original imo.
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 28 November 2016, 11:32:15
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.+1 great job, love thisShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Post by: pexon on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:01:34
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:03:40
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo
And would pair really well with a pexon cable...
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:39:40
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.
http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
:thumb:
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:42:39
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
This would be clean as hell with xondat's typeface. And do something like Carbon Edition 01/10, Founder Edition 01/30, Standard Edition X/100 so it keeps the same form but standard isn't numbered (use xondat's X he uses in Noxary and X60)
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:09
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
This would be clean as hell with xondat's typeface. And do something like Carbon Edition 01/10, Founder Edition 01/30, Standard Edition X/100 so it keeps the same form but standard isn't numbered (use xondat's X he uses in Noxary and X60)
My plan was to hunt down the font that Xondat's designer used as I like it as well... But, alas, my patience grew thin :rolleyes:
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:50:35
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
that pretty ****in neato, I think I like this one more
Post by: Jemaunji on Mon, 28 November 2016, 12:52:02
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
I'm really digging this one too.
Post by: pexon on Mon, 28 November 2016, 13:17:20
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.
(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo
And would pair really well with a pexon cable...
:3
Post by: jessica on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:11:51
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Hopping on the bandwagon here, that looks stellar. Xondat, I think the opinion is clear here :P
Post by: lishi on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:45:48
Typography 101 - Never distort a typeface. Adjust letter-spacing, kerning, and weight... If that still doesn't do it, find another typeface.
Yes, please never distort a typeface!
Post by: Khers on Mon, 28 November 2016, 15:50:58
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.I like this!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Post by: Gatix on Tue, 29 November 2016, 09:26:41
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
This is awesome. I like this one a lot better
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:04:12
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Killer :thumb:
Post by: fendent on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:13:32
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
This looks really nice
Post by: romevi on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:32:27
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:37:19
I'm also a fan of that design, and I'm not even in this GB. :))
That's how you know it's good.
Post by: pace8500 on Tue, 29 November 2016, 10:47:40
The chances are slim but it's worth a try!
Post by: Jumie on Wed, 30 November 2016, 01:15:56
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 30 November 2016, 01:17:19
Btw is this going to have a diffuser?
no xondat mentioned that the diffuser was scrapped
his prototype also doesn't have one
Post by: wodan on Wed, 30 November 2016, 01:19:25
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 30 November 2016, 02:36:05
A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.
Nah, nickel alloy :p
Post by: Khers on Wed, 30 November 2016, 02:46:29
Shot peened titanium with a tungsten plate and weight.A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.
Nah, nickel alloy :p
Post by: jchan94 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 03:28:40
Hard anodizing is amazing and it's nice to see it go this way. Can't wait to see a new prototype from the new manufacturer since I'm sure you want to see their quality before running full production!
Good luck Xondat :D
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 30 November 2016, 05:28:51
Progress is looking good! I really like that logo that everyone is liking above.
Hard anodizing is amazing and it's nice to see it go this way. Can't wait to see a new prototype from the new manufacturer since I'm sure you want to see their quality before running full production!
Good luck Xondat :D
AFAIK, production has already been started and hard anodizing was dropped last month.
Post by: trexous on Wed, 30 November 2016, 11:10:41
Post by: pace8500 on Wed, 30 November 2016, 11:59:37
If anyone wants to swap their Black or Gray HHKB case for my Black 60% case then let me know.
The chances are slim but it's worth a try!
I managed to get this swapped!
Now if anyone wants to swap their dark gray ANSI plate for my dark gray universal plate then let me know.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:27:09
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.
Btw is this going to have a diffuser?Diffuser doesn't work with the alignment tabs. Maybe for V2.
A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.I was actually going to have a full stainless steel case made, but I passed for some reason, probably because I have no idea how it'd be finished.
P.S. I have 10 extra cases that I've not sold yet, but had made, so those will probably be for sale when I commence shipping.
P.P.S. I should be trialling some new shipping boxes, methods, and packaging within the next couple of weeks. No custom packaging this time, maybe for X65 though.
Post by: Khers on Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:32:16
:thumb:Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.
Post by: jessica on Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:43:45
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.
WOOT
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:43:56
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.
Great to hear!
Also, as you know, Carbon, Founders, and Limited To have differing string lengths. Let me know if you need any input regarding font treatment to accommodate proper alignment :thumb:
Post by: pace8500 on Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:58:47
I say keep it simple with your future projects. There is definitely a place in the market for it and would help to differentiate you from other brands/manufacturers.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 01 December 2016, 16:48:19
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
+1
Post by: romevi on Thu, 01 December 2016, 16:49:20
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
+1
-1
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 01 December 2016, 17:11:50
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
+1
-1
+(-1)
Post by: Khers on Thu, 01 December 2016, 17:34:43
Or, in other words:
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
+1
+2
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 December 2016, 17:43:39
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
I say keep it simple with your future projects. There is definitely a place in the market for it and would help to differentiate you from other brands/manufacturers.
That the X60 lacks a diffuser, silly pin hole LEDs and weird shapes is what sold it for me. I don't want a keyboard that can be seen from the moon; I want something subdued, refined and pretty.
My first two projects (X60 and X75) were always meant to be simple, clean, and just functional. The aesthetic is that it's simple. I'll always have these simple designs as they're just perfect, and how I like them.
If anyone else has seen the FMJ cases (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47067.0), I've been thinking of doing something similar so I don't "ruin" the simple design. By that I mean I'll have the clean design, and then I'll have an "all-out" version that involves diffusers, more experimental weights, maybe interchangeable parts (different bottom pieces). Nothing has actually been put into CAD yet, but I have a list of things I'd like to do yet wouldn't want for my case, so this would be a good opportunity to experiment whilst maintaining what's important to me and others. X65 may be the first to see this, which is why it was brought forward, but there needs to be a redesign to incorporate more, and there is more development on the PCB side so it's hard to say what will come next.
Post by: pace8500 on Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:49:45
Everything seems to have LEDs/diffusers these days. It's nice to see a decent custom board without.
I say keep it simple with your future projects. There is definitely a place in the market for it and would help to differentiate you from other brands/manufacturers.That the X60 lacks a diffuser, silly pin hole LEDs and weird shapes is what sold it for me. I don't want a keyboard that can be seen from the moon; I want something subdued, refined and pretty.
My first two projects (X60 and X75) were always meant to be simple, clean, and just functional. The aesthetic is that it's simple. I'll always have these simple designs as they're just perfect, and how I like them.
If anyone else has seen the FMJ cases (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47067.0), I've been thinking of doing something similar so I don't "ruin" the simple design. By that I mean I'll have the clean design, and then I'll have an "all-out" version that involves diffusers, more experimental weights, maybe interchangeable parts (different bottom pieces). Nothing has actually been put into CAD yet, but I have a list of things I'd like to do yet wouldn't want for my case, so this would be a good opportunity to experiment whilst maintaining what's important to me and others. X65 may be the first to see this, which is why it was brought forward, but there needs to be a redesign to incorporate more, and there is more development on the PCB side so it's hard to say what will come next.
Sounds good. Is the x65 coming after the x75?
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:52:33
I think xondat said he ended up deciding to do x65 before x75
Sounds good. Is the x65 coming after the x75?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:27:26
Sounds good. Is the x65 coming after the x75?
I think xondat said he ended up deciding to do x65 before x75
I don't actually know yet.
X75 needed a remodel as I messed an early number up, and X65s PCB is being redesigned (expected January) so I need to change a few things with the case to incorporate the new PCB features. Factors that'll come into which happens first: how I feel, what the market wants, which is finished (if it is), X60 fully shipped, and probably some other stuff too.
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:29:48
Post by: wodan on Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:31:22
Post by: xondat on Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:33:39
Any chance of x65 supporting split spacebar? :)Maybe on my version of the PCB, but the other one is too full.
Post by: gzprime on Sat, 03 December 2016, 04:19:42
Sounds good. Is the x65 coming after the x75?I think xondat said he ended up deciding to do x65 before x75
I don't actually know yet.
X75 needed a remodel as I messed an early number up, and X65s PCB is being redesigned (expected January) so I need to change a few things with the case to incorporate the new PCB features. Factors that'll come into which happens first: how I feel, what the market wants, which is finished (if it is), X60 fully shipped, and probably some other stuff too.
If it helps (and things align) this particular piece of the market is ready to purchase an x75. :)
I'm feeling seventyfive-y
same
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 December 2016, 05:41:18
(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 05 December 2016, 05:45:05
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
This brass is unpolished right?
Is it possible to get it like this?
The engraving will looks neat tho! :D
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 December 2016, 05:51:51
This brass is unpolished right?Prototype weight is unfinished; all weights will be polished.
Is it possible to get it like this?
The engraving will looks neat tho! :D
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 05 December 2016, 05:57:57
Gorgeous looks))))) push in productionShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 05 December 2016, 06:14:41
This brass is unpolished right?Prototype weight is unfinished; all weights will be polished.
Is it possible to get it like this?
The engraving will looks neat tho! :D
too bad :P will have to see how it looks polished, maybe I will develop a liking it :)
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 05 December 2016, 06:32:58
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Xondat, please. This is too much of a tease. Have some respect! :))
Post by: Khers on Mon, 05 December 2016, 06:33:41
:thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 05 December 2016, 06:35:35
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 05 December 2016, 06:48:35
Why do you x60 is not considered as a logoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
Post by: gzprime on Mon, 05 December 2016, 07:12:40
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 December 2016, 07:15:14
Xondat, please. This is too much of a tease. Have some respect! :));)
Gorgeous looks))))) push in productionI'll have all 3 engraving designs prototyped, with different materials and engraving depth, and once I get those I'll approve everything and the 100 will enter production.
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.The two logos you'll see are the following:
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/RB7gWsY.png)
(sometimes without "Co", it depends on the context)
(http://i.imgur.com/VmnRl8M.png)
X60 is one of the two, I guess.I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.Why do you x60 is not considered as a logo
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 05 December 2016, 07:21:20
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 05 December 2016, 07:47:58
Post by: fendent on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:29:50
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:37:14
Why do you x60 is not considered as a logoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
I mean I want a logo like a hand of OTD team. :P
Post by: kenlee on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:41:10
I agree with jhoang....vote oneWhy do you x60 is not considered as a logoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
I mean I want a logo like a hand of OTD team.
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 05 December 2016, 08:48:43
Take a look earlier, the "team" ))) logo is noxary co via specific font, it some kind of logo style. You tell about iconic logo, it's only represented via x60 - model logoWhy do you x60 is not considered as a logoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
I mean I want a logo like a hand of OTD team. :P
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:00:51
Take a look earlier, the "team" ))) logo is noxary co via specific font, it some kind of logo style. You tell about iconic logo, it's only represented via x60 - model logoWhy do you x60 is not considered as a logoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
I still want a logo to be placed side by side X60 on bottom surface.
Do you have any logo, Xondat? ;D
I think this is it
I mean I want a logo like a hand of OTD team. :P
Yea, that's an iconic logo. Just my desire. So I just asked Xondat if he got a logo, he should put it there. :P
Post by: xondat on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:14:54
(http://i.imgur.com/cd0BAEi.png)
Post by: jhoang on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:20:08
How about the timeline, Xondat?
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 05 December 2016, 09:58:41
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
:thumb:
Post by: gzprime on Mon, 05 December 2016, 10:10:29
Yea, your current design is fine. :)
How about the timeline, Xondat?
I like the text art bro. Tastefully done it's impactful and classy.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:00:40
Yea, your current design is fine. :)
How about the timeline, Xondat?
I like the text art bro. Tastefully done it's impactful and classy.
This design is classy. I love it! It looks very clean without a "logo," in my opinion.
Whoops, replied to the wrong person, sorry! I was referring to Aaron's logo design.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:06:14
Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AwTx9d1.jpg)
This design is classy and wonderful. I hope this is the confirmed one!
It honestly looks great!
Post by: jessica on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:19:49
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iLYTsktkJpk/UW1jwpCERII/AAAAAAAAAOU/qqIdYWQQ5lI/s1600/fghj.jpg)
Post by: NolaSwag on Mon, 05 December 2016, 20:46:31
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 05 December 2016, 21:29:32
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Looks excellent to me :thumb:
Post by: cicada on Tue, 06 December 2016, 00:34:08
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Looking good there Xondat! This is definitely the keyboard of the year for me.
Would you say the Dark Gray is more of a lighter or darker shade IRL? And do you think that Hasu's Alps64 PCB will fit into the case? I know any other plates won't be compatible but I think I can work on that.
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 06 December 2016, 00:37:22
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3SqYETi.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oOB8D1X.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xxMJ65B.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2aGIWu8.jpg)
:-*
Looking good there Xondat! This is definitely the keyboard of the year for me.
Would you say the Dark Gray is more of a lighter or darker shade IRL? And do you think that Hasu's Alps64 PCB will fit into the case? I know any other plates won't be compatible but I think I can work on that.
Alps64 should be compatible, the button and USB port placement is essentially the same as any other 60% pcb.
Did you get an hhkb x60 btw? I'm thinking of doing a mini gb for an alps hhkb plate for this case
Post by: cicada on Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:26:07
Alps64 should be compatible, the button and USB port placement is essentially the same as any other 60% pcb.
Did you get an hhkb x60 btw? I'm thinking of doing a mini gb for an alps hhkb plate for this case
Ah that's great to hear :)
Sounds awesome! I didn't get an HHKB though. I've got a 60% and planning to build it with my Dell 101 caps. Would be great if you could make it happen in your GB!
I'm still not sure if an Alps plate is possible though, since this isn't a tray-mount case we'd have to use the right thickness for the plate. Normally an Alps plate is about 1.1mm thick so I don't know if it will work properly with a 1.5mm plate (assuming this is what X60 uses).
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:30:07
Alps64 should be compatible, the button and USB port placement is essentially the same as any other 60% pcb.
Did you get an hhkb x60 btw? I'm thinking of doing a mini gb for an alps hhkb plate for this case
Ah that's great to hear :)
Sounds awesome! I didn't get an HHKB though. I've got a 60% and planning to build it with my Dell 101 caps. Would be great if you could make it happen in your GB!
I'm still not sure if an Alps plate is possible though, since this isn't a tray-mount case we'd have to use the right thickness for the plate. Normally an Alps plate is about 1.1mm thick so I don't know if it will work properly with a 1.5mm plate (assuming this is what X60 uses).
Hmm you could probably get around this by adding something to where the screws are located. Maybe layering some paper or something like dental bands will do the trick
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:35:58
Alps64 should be compatible, the button and USB port placement is essentially the same as any other 60% pcb.I'm interested if you are gonna push thru with the hhkb alps plate for x60. :)
Did you get an hhkb x60 btw? I'm thinking of doing a mini gb for an alps hhkb plate for this case
Post by: cicada on Tue, 06 December 2016, 05:48:02
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 06 December 2016, 09:57:23
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 07 December 2016, 07:23:19
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 10 December 2016, 11:29:54
Edit: I'd be willing to trade my dark grey plate too possibly.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 December 2016, 16:38:57
Engravings should start production this week, I'm just waiting on the .SVG files from my designer, M,
so that I can send them to the factory. I'll be having prototype weights made just to get the engraving depth to what I want. Those will ship with all other parts, which are finished and ready to be shipped. Once I get the parts, I'll approve the engravings, and they'll enter production.
X65, T60, and N60 samples/prototypes will also ship with the production engravings if anyone is interested in those. You can keep upto date on those projects here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82653).
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 12 December 2016, 16:52:39
Carbon fiber plates are ready to be made, and will be with me in a months time. There was a lot of trouble getting the appropriate file type, but leandren made it happen today, so thank you.
Engravings should start production this week, I'm just waiting on the .SVG files from my designer, M,
so that I can send them to the factory. I'll be having prototype weights made just to get the engraving depth to what I want. Those will ship with all other parts, which are finished and ready to be shipped. Once I get the parts, I'll approve the engravings, and they'll enter production.
X65, T60, and N60 samples/prototypes will also ship with the production engravings if anyone is interested in those. You can keep upto date on those projects here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82653).
Any pics xondat?
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 12 December 2016, 16:55:05
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:03:23
Any pics xondat?I'll see if they took/can take any.
What's the new ship date for the cases at this point? Late January?Uh, something like that - allow more however. I don't want to say too much (so I don't go back on myself) but once we're in the last stage of production, and only waiting for production, I can give a timeline. I apologise for the wait and vagueness, but I don't want to misguide anyone.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 12 December 2016, 20:26:10
Carbon fiber plates are ready to be made, and will be with me in a months time. There was a lot of trouble getting the appropriate file type, but leandren made it happen today, so thank you.
Engravings should start production this week, I'm just waiting on the .SVG files from my designer, M,
so that I can send them to the factory. I'll be having prototype weights made just to get the engraving depth to what I want. Those will ship with all other parts, which are finished and ready to be shipped. Once I get the parts, I'll approve the engravings, and they'll enter production.
X65, T60, and N60 samples/prototypes will also ship with the production engravings if anyone is interested in those. You can keep upto date on those projects here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82653).
Just curious. Has the shop already done quality control checks on all the Anodization jobs, or is that something that you will look at when you receive them, or will both happen?
I'm always nervous when I get a new aluminum case. I only have one that is completely blemish free.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 December 2016, 03:57:46
Just curious. Has the shop already done quality control checks on all the Anodization jobs, or is that something that you will look at when you receive them, or will both happen?Both. I'll be inspecting each part and making sure they're clean as can be. We're in agreement that anodizing quality should be perfect, so any parts that aren't up to a high standard will probably be remade, it's hard to say without doing it though, so I'll keep everyone updated when I get the parts.
Post by: jchan94 on Tue, 13 December 2016, 07:02:05
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 13 December 2016, 07:57:06
Just curious. Has the shop already done quality control checks on all the Anodization jobs, or is that something that you will look at when you receive them, or will both happen?Both. I'll be inspecting each part and making sure they're clean as can be. We're in agreement that anodizing quality should be perfect, so any parts that aren't up to a high standard will probably be remade, it's hard to say without doing it though, so I'll keep everyone updated when I get the parts.
Okay cool. Great news :thumb:
Post by: jessica on Sun, 18 December 2016, 14:25:34
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 19 December 2016, 15:14:45
Any updates lately? :D
http://pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-9/256/thinking-face.png
Post by: xondat on Mon, 19 December 2016, 15:17:53
Any updates lately? :DApologies for not seeing this until now.
We're thinking 2mm engraving depth, but I'm still wanting to go ahead with the prototypes.
(https://i.imgur.com/xfFE6nT.jpg)
Post by: joey on Mon, 19 December 2016, 15:33:01
Any updates lately? :DApologies for not seeing this until now.
We're thinking 2mm engraving depth, but I'm still wanting to go ahead with the prototypes.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xfFE6nT.jpg)
Can't tell how deep it is, compared to
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/15287161910/in/dateposted/
Post by: xondat on Mon, 19 December 2016, 15:39:09
Any updates lately? :DApologies for not seeing this until now.
We're thinking 2mm engraving depth, but I'm still wanting to go ahead with the prototypes.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xfFE6nT.jpg)
Can't tell how deep it is, compared to
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/15287161910/in/dateposted/
My guy said that's probably 1mm, but it's hard to tell without seeing the files etc.
Post by: joey on Mon, 19 December 2016, 15:45:00
I think the subtler engraving looks nicer, but lets see how the prototypes work out!Any updates lately? :DApologies for not seeing this until now.
We're thinking 2mm engraving depth, but I'm still wanting to go ahead with the prototypes.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xfFE6nT.jpg)
Can't tell how deep it is, compared to
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/15287161910/in/dateposted/
My guy said that's probably 1mm, but it's hard to tell without seeing the files etc.
Post by: jessica on Mon, 19 December 2016, 16:21:35
Any updates lately? :DApologies for not seeing this until now.
We're thinking 2mm engraving depth, but I'm still wanting to go ahead with the prototypes.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xfFE6nT.jpg)
Big fan! So freaking excited for this to come to fruition. Even more glad I decided to commit to it.
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 20 December 2016, 16:00:45
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 December 2016, 07:53:34
(http://i.imgur.com/gdIeSuD.png)
I'll probably be putting the remaining orders up for sale soon; not sure if I'm going to allow swaps (I will if you can find someone to buy your current if you have one). This means orders 92 through 100 will be available, but I'm going to keep a couple (not sure yet). I'll stick a form up when I do, so don't PM me for now.
If I don't comment here beforehand, I hope everyone has a happy Christmas. :D
Post by: jorgenslee on Fri, 23 December 2016, 09:51:52
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 December 2016, 20:24:39
- Can we have an update on timeline now?
- Is the machining done on the cases?
- Pictures of the cases would be greatly appreciated.
- Uhh.. If I can get the issues resolved before new years, then mid February? I'll be unsure until stuff is in production. Machining is 2ish weeks, shipping allow 1, and then another 3 for actual weight production.
- Yup.
- They're all packaged up and ready to be sent - just for pictures, it isn't worth opening boxes etc. I asked previously but it isn't worth the effort. Sorry.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 23 December 2016, 20:39:08
I made payment in august, so feb is right around the end of the 180day paypal dispute window. if it ends up being that late or past feb, can you do a refund and re-invoice so the dispute window is refreshed?
- Can we have an update on timeline now?
- Is the machining done on the cases?
- Pictures of the cases would be greatly appreciated.
- Uhh.. If I can get the issues resolved before new years, then mid February? I'll be unsure until stuff is in production. Machining is 2ish weeks, shipping allow 1, and then another 3 for actual weight production.
- Yup.
- They're all packaged up and ready to be sent - just for pictures, it isn't worth opening boxes etc. I asked previously but it isn't worth the effort. Sorry.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 23 December 2016, 21:36:36
I made payment in august, so feb is right around the end of the 180day paypal dispute window. if it ends up being that late or past feb, can you do a refund and re-invoice so the dispute window is refreshed?Absolutely, it'll more likely be pay a duplicate invoice and then I'll refund, but yes I'll allow this for anyone that has any doubts about their order.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 23 December 2016, 23:38:10
that sounds good, thanks manI made payment in august, so feb is right around the end of the 180day paypal dispute window. if it ends up being that late or past feb, can you do a refund and re-invoice so the dispute window is refreshed?Absolutely, it'll more likely be pay a duplicate invoice and then I'll refund, but yes I'll allow this for anyone that has any doubts about their order.
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 28 December 2016, 01:26:41
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 28 December 2016, 03:03:52
Just now stumbling across this. I have a MX HHKB. How realistic would it be for me to get one of these cases at a non inflated price?
I can sell my spot if xondat would allow it. At gb price.
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 28 December 2016, 11:12:28
I will PM you.Just now stumbling across this. I have a MX HHKB. How realistic would it be for me to get one of these cases at a non inflated price?
I can sell my spot if xondat would allow it. At gb price.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 December 2016, 09:22:47
(http://i.imgur.com/43QMKPx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3LNgcSR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TDGLRRS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yqFG0Zp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oICQf2Y.jpg)
Managed to squeeze some pictures as they're repacking into crates. The Gold turned out much nicer than I was expecting.
Edit: The factory took these pictures!! Should ship to me before CNY.
Edit edit: Dark Blue and Purple were tests fyi.
Post by: joey on Thu, 29 December 2016, 09:28:33
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 December 2016, 10:04:01
(https://i.imgur.com/eJWXe3J.png)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 29 December 2016, 10:04:22
can't wait!
Post by: PollandAkuma on Thu, 29 December 2016, 12:26:00
Post by: nickheller on Thu, 29 December 2016, 12:28:33
does this take alps :ONo
More
you would need a custom plate that supports alps (and mounts into this case) and one of the 60% alps pcbs from hasu
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 29 December 2016, 12:56:10
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 29 December 2016, 15:34:33
does this take alps :O
This is only the case
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 29 December 2016, 15:52:36
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Thu, 29 December 2016, 15:57:20
If anyone wanted to trade their gold HHKB for a dark grey HHKB hit me up, I've got enough grey cases, that gold speaks to my soul.
wtt all black for grey instead
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 29 December 2016, 15:57:35
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/95054Fc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/43QMKPx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3LNgcSR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TDGLRRS.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yqFG0Zp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oICQf2Y.jpg)
Managed to squeeze some pictures as they're repacking into crates. The Gold turned out much nicer than I was expecting.
Edit: The factory took these pictures!! Should ship to me before CNY.
Edit edit: Dark Blue and Purple were tests fyi.
Them blue plates turned out amazing :thumb:
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 29 December 2016, 16:07:39
Post by: xondat on Thu, 29 December 2016, 16:26:58
I'm also listing the last 7 cases up for sale too, you can check the orders details on the spreadsheet. This will stay up until they're all gone. Orders 95-100 will feature the standard weight; nothing special apart from the color. Form Here (https://goo.gl/forms/SihiFNk1cTysmlYP2).
I'll be sending the weight prototype files over tomorrow, if not the day after (busy tomorrow), so this puts us on a late February shipping timeline. This is an estimation though, as I am not able to tell how much CNY will affect everything.
Post by: pexon on Thu, 29 December 2016, 16:56:14
Post by: tuba section on Thu, 29 December 2016, 21:42:25
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Thu, 29 December 2016, 22:17:11
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 December 2016, 11:29:01
So I'm probably the first to get a new set, and I've just put it on my board.
Initial impressions are very, very good. They look and feel better than GMK; all the legends are fantastic quality. The color is really nice too.
I'll take some proper photos in daylight tomorrow (dark at 4PM :rolleyes:), I hope the above picture is good enough for now.
(http://i.imgur.com/AXQQOhH.jpg)
x-posting
I'd recommend a JTK set if you're still looking for a nice combo. I'm falling in love with this pairing.
I'll be sorting through PMs and form entries for the next hour or so.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 30 December 2016, 11:34:58
Have Dual set up for me and my gf with identical builds and peripherals, so a second black x60 for her would be perfect to finish things off! <3
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 30 December 2016, 11:35:23
So I'm probably the first to get a new set, and I've just put it on my board.
Initial impressions are very, very good. They look and feel better than GMK; all the legends are fantastic quality. The color is really nice too.
I'll take some proper photos in daylight tomorrow (dark at 4PM :rolleyes:), I hope the above picture is good enough for now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AXQQOhH.jpg)
x-posting
I'd recommend a JTK set if you're still looking for a nice combo. I'm falling in love with this pairing.
I'll be sorting through PMs and form entries for the next hour or so.
Man, this combo is sensational!! JTK is probably waiting at my office and great to see all the progress of late on the X60. VERY excited about this bad boy!
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 30 December 2016, 11:58:41
I'm looking to swap my Gold aluminium plate for a steel plate.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:00:53
On the submit swap form, there was no option for the steel plate, so I chose ANSI Silver.I knew I forgot something! I'll add that now. Can you resubmit please?
I'm looking to swap my Gold aluminium plate for a steel plate.
Post by: Malenky on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:07:02
Post by: lishi on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:08:15
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 December 2016, 12:21:54
For the swaps, is order number the row number or the number to the right of the username? I submitted with the row number, let me know if that's wrong please!Row number = order number.
Invoicing a few people right now, if your name is on the form for the last spots then you'll be getting one. If it isn't, it's because I haven't decided which custom colored I want to keep so bear with me!
Edit: Everyone has been invoiced, I've also added another order to the last spots form. It's order 91.
Post by: poolside on Fri, 30 December 2016, 13:58:44
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 30 December 2016, 16:44:23
Can't decide if I'd prefer two hhkb cases for me and my gf...
Form filled for #91!
Rip wallet xD
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Fri, 30 December 2016, 17:46:36
Post by: ankailou on Fri, 30 December 2016, 18:29:32
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 30 December 2016, 18:35:20
Oh geez another black hhkb order available.
Can't decide if I'd prefer two hhkb cases for me and my gf...
Form filled for #91!
Rip wallet xD
Good on you for having a gf that enjoys/ allows your keyboard hobby. My wife gets it... ish... but still thinks I'm nuts!
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 December 2016, 18:55:05
Are the entries highlighted in cyan still available?I removed the cyan, but at the time yes.
General key is: Green = Paid, Yellow = Invoiced, Blue = No Payment Required, White = Spot Not Assigned.
I'm just going to let the current invoiced spots get paid or released for now, and then tomorrow I'll send some more invoices.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Fri, 30 December 2016, 18:56:21
Paid!!
Looks like I won't have to wait for the T60 anymore. HYPE!!!! THE HIPRO LIFE CONTINUES!
And you won't even have to worry about shipping internationally ;D
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 30 December 2016, 18:57:08
Just got home and paid #93 =)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sat, 31 December 2016, 00:05:42
Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 December 2016, 10:45:34
All invoices I sent out have been paid for now, which leaves 4 custom colors and potentially another order that'll be up for sale (#49). Going out now, but I'll be sorting all of it in an hour, or next year :rolleyes:.
Happy New Years all.
Post by: jessica on Sun, 01 January 2017, 01:39:36
I think I messed up someones plate order, but I want to double check so I've PM'd everyone that the potential accidental swap may apply to. Nothing to worry about, if it is just a simple swap then no fuss. If it isn't a swap, and I messed an input into the spreadsheet up, then I'll have a few more plates made. I'll give it a few days, but if I do decide to have more plates made, I will open orders for additional plates up for a few days.
All invoices I sent out have been paid for now, which leaves 4 custom colors and potentially another order that'll be up for sale (#49). Going out now, but I'll be sorting all of it in an hour, or next year :rolleyes:.
Happy New Years all.
So, with all this accounted for, would extra plate production push back the shipping date or are we still looking at like late Feb?
Post by: Quakemz on Sun, 01 January 2017, 06:06:04
Post by: xondat on Sun, 01 January 2017, 09:57:13
So, with all this accounted for, would extra plate production push back the shipping date or are we still looking at like late Feb?It shouldn't delay, but I'll just ship them separately if it does.
Going to spend all of day checking invoices vs the spreadsheet as a couple of mistakes have popped up.
Post by: Khers on Sun, 01 January 2017, 12:12:55
Going to spend all of day checking invoices vs the spreadsheet as a couple of mistakes have popped up.Sounds fun... :-X :'( :-*
Post by: xondat on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:04:22
(http://i.imgur.com/tK5eIE0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/r8foqm8.jpg)
Carbon Fiber plates are done - thanks leandren!
Finished the spreadsheet too. The problem was that I didn't keep a "master", so information was spread everywhere. If you've received a PM, it's because I discovered a problem, but there were only a few. I'll have a new public spreadsheet up soon.
I did make an input mistake on someones plate, so there will be some more plates made, so I'll add a form up in a bit so anyone can order more plates (or PCBs, I have a few spare). Timeline for those means they should be made with the production weights, thus shipping with your order.
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:24:14
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mdqgBmc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tK5eIE0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r8foqm8.jpg)
Carbon Fiber plates are done - thanks leandren!
Finished the spreadsheet too. The problem was that I didn't keep a "master", so information was spread everywhere. If you've received a PM, it's because I discovered a problem, but there were only a few. I'll have a new public spreadsheet up soon.
I did make an input mistake on someones plate, so there will be some more plates made, so I'll add a form up in a bit so anyone can order more plates (or PCBs, I have a few spare). Timeline for those means they should be made with the production weights, thus shipping with your order.
Hey Xon, out of curiosity, will you have spare ANSI Carbon Fiber plates available? They seriously look amazing.
Really regret not ordering a red HHKB, but hopefully the blue one will be available for grabs. If not, I hope I can grab a plain colored HHKB and get it reannodized to red. Fingers crossed!
Post by: brighenne on Sun, 01 January 2017, 22:46:13
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mdqgBmc.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tK5eIE0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/r8foqm8.jpg)
Carbon Fiber plates are done - thanks leandren!
Finished the spreadsheet too. The problem was that I didn't keep a "master", so information was spread everywhere. If you've received a PM, it's because I discovered a problem, but there were only a few. I'll have a new public spreadsheet up soon.
I did make an input mistake on someones plate, so there will be some more plates made, so I'll add a form up in a bit so anyone can order more plates (or PCBs, I have a few spare). Timeline for those means they should be made with the production weights, thus shipping with your order.
Hey Xon, out of curiosity, will you have spare ANSI Carbon Fiber plates available? They seriously look amazing.
Really regret not ordering a red HHKB, but hopefully the blue one will be available for grabs. If not, I hope I can grab a plain colored HHKB and get it reannodized to red. Fingers crossed!
The CF plates are only supposed to be for the carbon edition.
Post by: ankailou on Mon, 02 January 2017, 14:09:36
Post by: xondat on Sat, 07 January 2017, 18:24:12
I'm sending out a couple more invoices for the Purple/Dark Blue boards. 97 and 99 are still available, so if you're still interested in the board, then this might be your last chance.
Edit:
97: Winkeyless Purple with ANSI Purple/Black/Silver
99: 60% Purple with ANSI Purple/Black/Silver
Edit 2:
Oh yeah, the link to buy the orders (https://goo.gl/forms/4glsjUk5iRLT9XPm2).
Post by: ramnes on Sun, 08 January 2017, 06:59:04
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 January 2017, 07:38:07
Why is the spreadsheet down?I had to redo everything as I had some information that was incorrect on the public, and the private spreadsheets were spread out everywhere. I'll get a new one up soon, just figuring some extra stuff out behind the scenes.
Edit: Link here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQQ6ngMRqjPdd95xnJi76wJYL8wnBK_aOvUXHPMvHcY/edit?usp=sharing). Please note this information may be out to date if you require. It is up to date on 1/8/2017.
Post by: nemo_gh on Sun, 08 January 2017, 09:48:08
Post by: poolside on Sun, 08 January 2017, 10:07:23
Edit 2:
Oh yeah, the link to buy the orders (https://goo.gl/forms/4glsjUk5iRLT9XPm2).
Last spots order form link from a few posts above. ;)
Post by: nemo_gh on Sun, 08 January 2017, 20:16:28
Post by: PriusProblems on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:00:10
Finally got another chance to use the internet (home internet cut off for two weeks and my 1GB mobile data cries at the sight of Geekhack threads) - why is my order the only orange one? (⊙o⊙)Why is the spreadsheet down?I had to redo everything as I had some information that was incorrect on the public, and the private spreadsheets were spread out everywhere. I'll get a new one up soon, just figuring some extra stuff out behind the scenes.
Edit: Link here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQQ6ngMRqjPdd95xnJi76wJYL8wnBK_aOvUXHPMvHcY/edit?usp=sharing). Please note this information may be out to date if you require. It is up to date on 1/8/2017.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 16 January 2017, 14:15:04
(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
Post by: poolside on Mon, 16 January 2017, 14:32:24
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
:thumb: By the way, will the purple boards be the same shade as the FJELL case?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 16 January 2017, 14:34:17
Dunno, they aren't related.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
:thumb: By the way, will the purple boards be the same shade as the FJELL case?
Post by: trexous on Mon, 16 January 2017, 15:12:13
Post by: jessica on Mon, 16 January 2017, 16:42:41
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
God, I am so excited for this..
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 17 January 2017, 10:12:12
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
God, I am so excited for this..
I'm excited for this and GMK Plum! Woot!
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 17 January 2017, 14:27:59
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 17 January 2017, 14:57:55
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
come to me
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 17 January 2017, 20:07:49
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGAJe2I.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KZuSoTN.png)
Soon :)
Can't wait :thumb: ;D :thumb: ;D
Post by: trexous on Wed, 18 January 2017, 04:57:41
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 21 January 2017, 00:44:11
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 23 January 2017, 16:53:02
Hey xondat, will you be doing the whole refund/pay duplicate invoice thing soon?
(http://i.imgur.com/mC4ISg0.png)
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:15:05
Post by: xondat on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:25:16
Hey xondat, will you be doing the whole refund/pay duplicate invoice thing soon?
PM me and we'll sort it - applies to anyone that has a invoice older than 6 months.
Is the keyboard still available for purchase? I am afraid I am too late.. :(
It's not - little late.
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:29:18
Will you be running another round for this?
This really is my luck.. I'm always late to the party. :/
Wish I could get my hands on the Carbon Fiber one but oh well..
Post by: xondat on Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:39:12
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO T_T
Will you be running another round for this?
This really is my luck.. I'm always late to the party. :/
Wish I could get my hands on the Carbon Fiber one but oh well..
Not this exact board, but I'm sure I'll revisit 60% in the future. There are 100, so it shouldn't be too hard to find after a while.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 23 January 2017, 20:09:02
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 23 January 2017, 23:06:34
My WALLET IS READY!!! lmao
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 24 January 2017, 01:15:42
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 24 January 2017, 10:40:07
Any production updates?
Likely: Chinese New Year
Post by: wLufty on Mon, 30 January 2017, 07:05:32
Also if someone is up to sell their spot lmk.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 31 January 2017, 16:19:16
Are the 95 and 99 still available or they are taken?
Taken. No spots left at all.
Will you be running another round for this?
Nope.
Any production updates?
Likely: Chinese New Year
This is correct. I'm still expecting (as I haven't been told otherwise) that I'll receive all the parts late February. I'll reconfirm all the information once my guy is back from CNY.
Post by: axtran on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:21:22
Post by: xondat on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:24:10
Can't wait to get finalized production pictures!Next pictures will be of the prototype weight, and then after that I'll receive the bulk shipment and post as many pictures as possible! I was thinking of sending them assembled anyway, so each person might be able to see a picture of their board(s) put together beforehand.
Post by: wodan on Wed, 01 February 2017, 07:25:18
... so each person might be able to see a picture of their board(s) put together beforehand.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
That would be PRETTY epic.
Post by: poolside on Wed, 01 February 2017, 17:25:24
Post by: Khers on Mon, 06 February 2017, 05:26:32
(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 06 February 2017, 07:25:31
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
Oh damn :o
Tiny update, factory is back after CNY. Just waiting on a timeline confirmation now.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:04:33
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
Gonna be using that same PCB for mine. Wish I had some Nixies tho ;D
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:09:57
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
I've had my lubed 62g gateron blacks with zealio clear bottom, zeal60, and zeal transparent stabs ready for a while now too.
Can someone explain what the AVR USBasp thing is?
Post by: fendent on Mon, 06 February 2017, 10:17:02
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
I've had my lubed 62g gateron blacks with zealio clear bottom, zeal60, and zeal transparent stabs ready for a while now too.
Can someone explain what the AVR USBasp thing is?
It's an AVR programmer
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 06 February 2017, 11:35:15
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
Nice :thumb:
Reminds me that I need to harvest Vintage Blacks for this board :cool:
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 06 February 2017, 11:46:16
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
I've had my lubed 62g gateron blacks with zealio clear bottom, zeal60, and zeal transparent stabs ready for a while now too.
Can someone explain what the AVR USBasp thing is?
It lets you reprogram the Atmel device and use TMK/QMK, overwriting Gon's firmware
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 February 2017, 07:56:43
P.S. I should've noted this will turn into a standard, and not stay a Founders Edition.
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 08:33:58
Order #32 is up for sale. I'd highly recommend jumping on this as it's in the best configuration. HHKB in Dark Gray with an ANSI Red plate. Price is $350 + fees. Please PM with subject line "Order #32", please also include your PayPal email address so that I can invoice you. :thumb:am I too late? :eek:
P.S. I should've noted this will turn into a standard, and not stay a Founders Edition.
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:09:20
hooray for cny being over
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:14:28
#68 Silver HHKB, red ansi plate, 1 pcb
FCFS, PM me your PayPal address and I'll forward it to xondat
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:33:08
I'm finally done sourcing components for this. I'm ready, xondat!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8zhx4zp.jpg)
thats gonna be dope
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:36:24
selling 2 of my spotsPm'd about #38, but as i see in list, there is - asianboy2000
#38 Dark Grey HHKB, red plate
#68 Silver HHKB, red ansi plate, 1 pcb
FCFS, PM me your PayPal address and I'll forward it to xondat
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:38:30
selling 2 of my spotsPm'd about #38, but as i see in list, there is - asianboy2000
#38 Dark Grey HHKB, red plate
#68 Silver HHKB, red ansi plate, 1 pcb
FCFS, PM me your PayPal address and I'll forward it to xondat
List hasn't been updated, I bought that spot
Post by: Damonskv on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:40:14
If it's avalable i'm tottaly inselling 2 of my spotsPm'd about #38, but as i see in list, there is - asianboy2000
#38 Dark Grey HHKB, red plate
#68 Silver HHKB, red ansi plate, 1 pcb
FCFS, PM me your PayPal address and I'll forward it to xondat
List hasn't been updated, I bought that spot
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:53:37
Edit: Buy Spots Form (https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2)
Post by: poolside on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:40:10
I'll give it a few days, but if I do decide to have more plates made, I will open orders for additional plates up for a few days.
Is this it?
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 07 February 2017, 21:57:25
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 10 February 2017, 23:07:43
Post by: xondat on Sat, 11 February 2017, 05:44:43
hey xondat I pm'd you about the whole refund reinvoice thing a week or two ago. ty!Can you pm me again please? Must've accidentally cleared it when sorting my messages.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 12 February 2017, 22:18:05
hey xondat I pm'd you about the whole refund reinvoice thing a week or two ago. ty!Can you pm me again please? Must've accidentally cleared it when sorting my messages.
I've also sent you a message regarding the same thing :)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 12:18:03
I'd also like people to contact me if they still have a deposit that hasn't been refunded yet and they didn't get into the group buy.
Post by: pace8500 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 12:54:05
I'll be sorting the reinvoicing in an hour or two.
I'd also like people to contact me if they still have a deposit that hasn't been refunded yet and they didn't get into the group buy.
I don't want to be re-invoiced so you can skip me if you were planning on doing everyone.
Thanks
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:21:24
I'll be sorting the reinvoicing in an hour or two.
I'd also like people to contact me if they still have a deposit that hasn't been refunded yet and they didn't get into the group buy.
I don't want to be re-invoiced so you can skip me if you were planning on doing everyone.
Thanks
It's only people that request it :)
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:34:27
I'll be sorting the reinvoicing in an hour or two.
I'd also like people to contact me if they still have a deposit that hasn't been refunded yet and they didn't get into the group buy.
I don't want to be re-invoiced so you can skip me if you were planning on doing everyone.
Thanks
It's only people that request it :)
You're the best, Xondat!
Already paid the other invoices, can you let me know when you refund the original one? :)
On a side note, got any neat pictures from that meetup?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 13:50:28
Already paid the other invoices, can you let me know when you refund the original one? :)
On a side note, got any neat pictures from that meetup?
You've got a PM :)
(http://i.imgur.com/WBV54cd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dj2zC2r.jpg)
Those are from Pexon. I think Malenky will leave some comments later based on what he saw.
P.S. I think all invoicing is done! I'll recheck in 24 hours to sort refunds on paid invoices.
Post by: Malenky on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:29:12
Post by: poolside on Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:16:38
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:21:49
Might extra plates (particularly those stainless steel ones) still be a thing?Doubt it. Maybe with X75 production and with a MOQ of 25 or something like that but I'm not sure if that'd hit.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:30:19
Might extra plates (particularly those stainless steel ones) still be a thing?Doubt it. Maybe with X75 production and with a MOQ of 25 or something like that but I'm not sure if that'd hit.
That's a bummer! Any chance you'd be willing to release the plate CAD files so we may get Stainless Steel plates made if we ever want them?
I would've loved a Carbon plate too, but understand those were only for the founders, sadly. I heard Carbon fiber sounds and feels nice to type on. :(
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:52:42
That's a bummer! Any chance you'd be willing to release the plate CAD files so we may get Stainless Steel plates made if we ever want them?
I would've loved a Carbon plate too, but understand those were only for the founders, sadly. I heard Carbon fiber sounds and feels nice to type on. :(
Probably won't - I'll gauge interest for extra plates in a week or two and see where it goes.
Only for Carbon Editions, not Founders. Future X models won't have the CE as I think it's really nice to type on - nicer than aluminum or stainless steel.
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 13 February 2017, 19:06:35
That's a bummer! Any chance you'd be willing to release the plate CAD files so we may get Stainless Steel plates made if we ever want them?
I would've loved a Carbon plate too, but understand those were only for the founders, sadly. I heard Carbon fiber sounds and feels nice to type on. :(
Probably won't - I'll gauge interest for extra plates in a week or two and see where it goes.
Only for Carbon Editions, not Founders. Future X models won't have the CE as I think it's really nice to type on - nicer than aluminum or stainless steel.
Sorry, not following Xondat... you think carbon fiber plates are the nicest feel for typing but won't be offering them on X75, etc downstream...?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 February 2017, 19:53:09
That's a bummer! Any chance you'd be willing to release the plate CAD files so we may get Stainless Steel plates made if we ever want them?
I would've loved a Carbon plate too, but understand those were only for the founders, sadly. I heard Carbon fiber sounds and feels nice to type on. :(
Probably won't - I'll gauge interest for extra plates in a week or two and see where it goes.
Only for Carbon Editions, not Founders. Future X models won't have the CE as I think it's really nice to type on - nicer than aluminum or stainless steel.
Sorry, not following Xondat... you think carbon fiber plates are the nicest feel for typing but won't be offering them on X75, etc downstream...?
I won't offer Carbon Editions as I want more than 10 people to have Carbon Fiber.
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:48:33
That's a bummer! Any chance you'd be willing to release the plate CAD files so we may get Stainless Steel plates made if we ever want them?
I would've loved a Carbon plate too, but understand those were only for the founders, sadly. I heard Carbon fiber sounds and feels nice to type on. :(
Probably won't - I'll gauge interest for extra plates in a week or two and see where it goes.
Only for Carbon Editions, not Founders. Future X models won't have the CE as I think it's really nice to type on - nicer than aluminum or stainless steel.
Sorry, not following Xondat... you think carbon fiber plates are the nicest feel for typing but won't be offering them on X75, etc downstream...?
I won't offer Carbon Editions as I want more than 10 people to have Carbon Fiber.
Oh, sweet! Really dig cf plates too, so that's great news. Getting a bit hot and bothered for this to ship! Then the X75. Sonofa.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 14 February 2017, 18:41:41
- 20 days for the prototype weight
- usually 4 days for delivery
- 30 days for the production weights
- usually 4 days for all parts delivery
- shipping invoices, sorting and shipping
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 14 February 2017, 19:11:37
I have to say it at some point - there was a miscommunication between me and the factory. We're looking at this timeline now as of today:Unless there is a major problem with the engraving then this should be something to stick to as it's the word from the factory, but knowing how group buys in general and their luck, I'd be surprised if this happens. It's a big disappointment announcing more delays, but hopefully you can believe I'm trying to get this done ASAP.
- 20 days for the prototype weight
- usually 4 days for delivery
- 30 days for the production weights
- usually 4 days for all parts delivery
- shipping invoices, sorting and shipping
Thanks for the update, Xondat.
From what I gather, we're currently IN the 20 days allocated for prototype weight production rather than starting the 20 day period, correct?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 14 February 2017, 19:25:59
I have to say it at some point - there was a miscommunication between me and the factory. We're looking at this timeline now as of today:Unless there is a major problem with the engraving then this should be something to stick to as it's the word from the factory, but knowing how group buys in general and their luck, I'd be surprised if this happens. It's a big disappointment announcing more delays, but hopefully you can believe I'm trying to get this done ASAP.
- 20 days for the prototype weight
- usually 4 days for delivery
- 30 days for the production weights
- usually 4 days for all parts delivery
- shipping invoices, sorting and shipping
Thanks for the update, Xondat.
From what I gather, we're currently IN the 20 days allocated for prototype weight production rather than starting the 20 day period, correct?
Started Monday as far as I can tell.
"We have arranged the production on Monday ... finish in 20 days."
So I guess 19 more?
Post by: wodan on Tue, 14 February 2017, 23:50:00
Just trying to manage my expectations here...
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 15 February 2017, 00:34:55
Okay so we're talking about a delay of more than two months and a delivery in early May ?
Just trying to manage my expectations here...
expect another delay. early may is only if everything goes as planned
Post by: xondat on Wed, 15 February 2017, 15:09:17
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 15 February 2017, 20:41:53
No hiccups is 13th of April.
Does this mean T60 is pushed back as well?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 16 February 2017, 09:11:35
No hiccups is 13th of April.
Does this mean T60 is pushed back as well?
Everything is as the prototypes for T60, X65, and X75 are being delivered with the production weights and cases :'(
Post by: mmdango on Sun, 19 February 2017, 00:05:30
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 19 February 2017, 00:46:11
No hiccups is 13th of April.
Does this mean T60 is pushed back as well?
Everything is as the prototypes for T60, X65, and X75 are being delivered with the production weights and cases :'(
What is a T60? Don't think I remember hearing about that one.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 19 February 2017, 03:49:02
What is a T60? Don't think I remember hearing about that one.
Tray mount 60% case.
Post by: Kellybear on Sun, 19 February 2017, 09:47:15
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 19 February 2017, 09:55:36
What layout are the orders 68 and 69?
You can check them here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQQ6ngMRqjPdd95xnJi76wJYL8wnBK_aOvUXHPMvHcY/edit#gid=0
Post by: Kellybear on Sun, 19 February 2017, 10:01:34
What layout are the orders 68 and 69?
You can check them here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZQQ6ngMRqjPdd95xnJi76wJYL8wnBK_aOvUXHPMvHcY/edit#gid=0
I just found that and it was the biggest pain in da butt on mobile. I should have just waited for you to link it LOL. You da bae tho. Thanks!
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 19 February 2017, 22:17:22
Anyone interested in buying #68 or #69, please fill this form (https://goo.gl/forms/IQ8DV7Vqn72KJDVh1) in.What is a T60? Don't think I remember hearing about that one.
Tray mount 60% case.
Oh cool. Is there a thread with any renders yet?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 20 February 2017, 05:49:21
Anyone interested in buying #68 or #69, please fill this form (https://goo.gl/forms/IQ8DV7Vqn72KJDVh1) in.What is a T60? Don't think I remember hearing about that one.
Tray mount 60% case.
Oh cool. Is there a thread with any renders yet?
(http://i.imgur.com/gQoFtom.png)
I mean it's just the same as X60, but tray :p
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 20 February 2017, 14:13:38
Ah, I see. Still looks really good.Anyone interested in buying #68 or #69, please fill this form (https://goo.gl/forms/IQ8DV7Vqn72KJDVh1) in.What is a T60? Don't think I remember hearing about that one.
Tray mount 60% case.
Oh cool. Is there a thread with any renders yet?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gQoFtom.png)
I mean it's just the same as X60, but tray
Post by: mintyfruits on Mon, 20 February 2017, 18:34:03
Post by: jessica on Thu, 23 February 2017, 17:25:28
No hiccups is 13th of April.
Just to clear this up, 13th of April is the date you'd be shipping them out to us (GB members) or the day the producing factory would be shipping to you?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 February 2017, 17:36:37
No hiccups is 13th of April.
Just to clear this up, 13th of April is the date you'd be shipping them out to us (GB members) or the day the producing factory would be shipping to you?
The date I would receive the parts. Around that date as it's all approximate because of ship dates.
Post by: xondat on Sun, 26 February 2017, 08:37:37
If anyone needs to talk about their order, then please email support@noxary.co instead of PMing me from now on - please include X60 and your order number in the subject. Thanks.
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:23:57
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:47:31
Any good update? Its Tuesday now :)
It's Wednesday now, any update?
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 02 March 2017, 03:07:06
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This is awesome. It looks looks fantastic!!!
Post by: xondat on Thu, 02 March 2017, 07:18:56
Any good update? Its Tuesday now :)
It's Wednesday now, any update?
Nothing yet. I'll post as soon as I get a reply.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:24:46
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They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:27:02
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:30:27
Is the founders edition weight going to be mat, or shiny?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mGShhCa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVWZgi9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpPrY0c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yG2Ftqj.jpg)
They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:32:20
Is the founders edition weight going to be mat, or shiny?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mGShhCa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVWZgi9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpPrY0c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yG2Ftqj.jpg)
They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
I've ordered polished and sand-blasted prototypes. All will be one or the other, I'm undecided yet.
Post by: joey on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:33:36
Sandblasted, I decided for you :cool:Is the founders edition weight going to be mat, or shiny?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mGShhCa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVWZgi9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpPrY0c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yG2Ftqj.jpg)
They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
I've ordered polished and sand-blasted prototypes. All will be one or the other, I'm undecided yet.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:35:47
I would really like to see this ship before I have to get PayPal re-invoiced ...
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:36:20
Whatever it is please make a decision.
I would really like to see this ship before I have to get PayPal re-invoiced ...
Well they're being shipped today so we're on track. Going as quickly as possible without compromise.
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:37:52
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Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 07 March 2017, 06:38:47
+1 for sandblastedSandblasted, I decided for you :cool:Is the founders edition weight going to be mat, or shiny?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mGShhCa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVWZgi9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpPrY0c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yG2Ftqj.jpg)
They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
I've ordered polished and sand-blasted prototypes. All will be one or the other, I'm undecided yet.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:33:09
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:35:22
I've been told the markings in the text can be removed with cleaning, which is good news. I should have them by Friday, but definitely Sunday and will be posting promptly.
Cleaning? It looks like raised metal.. Doesn't bother me that much though. Also, +1 for sandblasting
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 07 March 2017, 09:57:51
Post by: ntw on Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:06:04
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:12:42
The brass is very dope bro. Now that you have completed the prototype for the brass, when will the GB start?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mGShhCa.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JVWZgi9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RpPrY0c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yG2Ftqj.jpg)
They'll be sent today, theoretically will have them by the weekend. I was feeling great about them, but then I noticed the weird marking on Carbon Edition in the last picture. I've enquired about what it is - hoping it's removable by me or fixable by them, but we'll see.
Can't wait <3
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 March 2017, 14:34:29
when is the 180 days cut-off?
Check your PP invoice. Xondat has indicated he'd be willing to reinvoice and cancel the original to re-up the 180 days. You should PM him if that's something you'd like to do.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 15:09:10
when is the 180 days cut-off?
Invoices are quite spread out so you'd have to see for yourself. Happy to reinvoice though, email support@noxary.co ^-^
Post by: jessica on Tue, 07 March 2017, 15:54:25
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 07 March 2017, 16:22:33
Don't really mind either way, just wondering
Post by: xondat on Tue, 07 March 2017, 16:35:36
Are carbon edt weights going to be brass or are you still going with stainless xon?
Don't really mind either way, just wondering
They'll be stainless steel. I got a combination that doesn't exist in production so they're irrelevant.
Post by: pace8500 on Wed, 08 March 2017, 07:19:35
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:13:58
I prefer the sandblasted one, not really into polished weights. Polished ones scratch too easily if not handled and packaged with the utmost of care in transsit.
Also, where is that tunnel in your profile pic?
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:00:30
How is the timeline looking now?
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 08 March 2017, 10:39:52
When will the form for extra plates (Steel, Poly, Alu, etc.,) go out?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 08 March 2017, 17:39:56
How is the timeline looking now?
On track for April 13th still.
When will the form for extra plates (Steel, Poly, Alu, etc.,) go out?
I still don't know if I'm doing that yet :) I'll receive brass/polycarbonate plates in the bulk shipment on April 13th and will assess the quality.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 09 March 2017, 08:25:39
Hoping they turn out to be ok once you get them, much want xD
Post by: xondat on Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:30:26
My current plans are assembling the boards so I'm shipping a singular piece (nothing metal can move), with the PCB (if you ordered one) inside in a layer of foam wrap. I'll wrap the keyboard in several layers of foam wrap and put it into the double walled box and make sure there is no movement. I think no movement is key, but let me know if there is any more I can do.
Regarding the prototype weights, the import fees are paid off and I imagine they're about to land at the airport any time soon. If it lands today, then I'm sure it'll be here tomorrow.
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Yes, I'll be posting many, many non-potato pictures.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:34:51
I'm currently talking to the factory about custom boxes, but not sure how far that'll go. Ruling out custom foam/boxes, how would everyone like to see their keyboards packed? Any hints, tips, paragraphs of descriptions would be appreciated.
My current plans are assembling the boards so I'm shipping a singular piece (nothing metal can move), with the PCB (if you ordered one) inside in a layer of foam wrap. I'll wrap the keyboard in several layers of foam wrap and put it into the double walled box and make sure there is no movement. I think no movement is key, but let me know if there is any more I can do.
Regarding the prototype weights, the import fees are paid off and I imagine they're about to land at the airport any time soon. If it lands today, then I'm sure it'll be here tomorrow.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xdzICAZ.png)
Yes, I'll be posting many, many non-potato pictures.
Preassembled with PCB on the inside of the case sounds good
If you could do this kind of hard foam I think you could eliminate a lot of movement
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84703.0;attach=162370;image
Post by: Jumie on Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:40:39
Post by: jeffbolton on Thu, 09 March 2017, 09:49:45
I'm currently talking to the factory about custom boxes, but not sure how far that'll go. Ruling out custom foam/boxes, how would everyone like to see their keyboards packed? Any hints, tips, paragraphs of descriptions would be appreciated.
My current plans are assembling the boards so I'm shipping a singular piece (nothing metal can move), with the PCB (if you ordered one) inside in a layer of foam wrap. I'll wrap the keyboard in several layers of foam wrap and put it into the double walled box and make sure there is no movement. I think no movement is key, but let me know if there is any more I can do.
Regarding the prototype weights, the import fees are paid off and I imagine they're about to land at the airport any time soon. If it lands today, then I'm sure it'll be here tomorrow.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xdzICAZ.png)
Yes, I'll be posting many, many non-potato pictures.
Im all for the custom boxes because they give me a nice storage option. However, if it is too expensive or too much delay, just assemble them, then wrap in foam. Could you possibly throw in an extra screw or two? That is always nice.
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:09:29
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:34:37
Any idea on when round 2 will be? I would really like one of the HHKB X60's.
I'm 90% sure xondat mentioned a while back that this will be the only round since he wants to move on to other keyboard projects that he has planned
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:54:59
I love the idea of a custom box but imagine that would be costly and take some time to design/ produce and I know we're all eager to see these bad boys ship. Maybe pack the $#it out of them this round Kin-style and then go custom box as an add-on option for the X75 and beyond...
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Post by: xondat on Fri, 10 March 2017, 11:57:41
The quality of the polished weight is absolutely awful. We'll ignore that. Sandblasted will be the production version.
I'm happy with the general engraving - it's nice apart from it hasn't been machined properly so there is still material on the inside of some letters (Carbon Edition, ARBNEDTN11). The depth is nice, the corners are done well. Aside from the incorrect machining, which is an easy fix, it's great.
The consistency of the finish is slightly off. There is some streaking and variants in the surface color. I will be making sure this is fixed for production. There are also a couple of tiny "dings", but these can be fixed by asking them to be more careful.
Over the next few days I'll be making sure we have zero problems for production, and once I'm sure then we'll enter production.
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Post by: Malenky on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:04:53
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 10 March 2017, 12:25:09
Post by: xondat on Fri, 10 March 2017, 13:35:33
I think my favorite is the polished one with just X60 on it. What are all those scratches on the Carbon Edition one?
I got two identical, the only difference is the finish. Just X60 is on the outside, the more complex is on the inside.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:03:13
The engraving currently on the outside, now referred to as SIMPLE.
(http://i.imgur.com/ujcS7I2.png)
And the engraving currently on the inside, now referred to as DETAIL.
(http://i.imgur.com/sL35gi7.png)
When assembled, on the bottom you will see SIMPLE. You would have to take the case apart to see DETAIL.
I am considering swapping this around. The swap would mean when assembled, on the bottom you will see DETAIL, and you would have to take the case apart to see SIMPLE.
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND OPINIONS.
Whether you're involved in the group buy or not, I would like your opinion. Swapping these around wouldn't require a new prototype (a new prototype would add 30 days on), but if there is enough people wanting a new prototype (if you're involved in the group buy) then I will.
Regarding the production weights, I'll be talking to the factory on Monday, and by Tuesday I should have a rough idea of how long the issues with the prototypes will take to solve.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:07:31
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:08:45
I prefer the way you have it with simple on the bottom :thumb:+1
Post by: fendent on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:09:07
+1 swap
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:09:26
Edit: totally good with either way... changed vote --- > Dealer's Choice.
Post by: Damonskv on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:10:02
So at the minute there are two types of engraving:How will it look for those who are not among carbon and founders?
The engraving currently on the outside, now referred to as SIMPLE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ujcS7I2.png)
And the engraving currently on the inside, now referred to as DETAIL.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sL35gi7.png)
When assembled, on the bottom you will see SIMPLE. You would have to take the case apart to see DETAIL.
I am considering swapping this around. The swap would mean when assembled, on the bottom you will see DETAIL, and you would have to take the case apart to see SIMPLE.
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND OPINIONS.
Whether you're involved in the group buy or not, I would like your opinion. Swapping these around wouldn't require a new prototype (a new prototype would add 30 days on), but if there is enough people wanting a new prototype (if you're involved in the group buy) then I will.
Regarding the production weights, I'll be talking to the factory on Monday, and by Tuesday I should have a rough idea of how long the issues with the prototypes will take to solve.
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:10:35
All that engraving to be hidden on the inside of the case doesn't make much sense. I also lay down silencing foam on the inside of my case, so I wouldn't be able to see the engraving if I took off the top part of the case anyways.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:14:34
Would love to see detail being visible rather then hidden inside =)
Post by: laughatpain on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:14:34
I think it would be very nice to be able to look at your edition and numbers at a glance instead of where you'd never see it inside the case.Conflicted because I want to see my number/edition, but prefer the simplicity of how it is now. I'd be happy with whatever decision is made
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:17:11
the inside engraving will never see light of day except when someone takes pics, so it seems kind of a waste to have all that engraving inside. however, i can see people wanting to keep the outside simple.
Post by: joey on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:19:25
i'm fine either way.I thought you wanted 'fkjoey' engraved?
the inside engraving will never see light of day except when someone takes pics, so it seems kind of a waste to have all that engraving inside. however, i can see people wanting to keep the outside simple.
Post by: Damonskv on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:20:32
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:20:41
i'm fine either way.I thought you wanted 'fkjoey' engraved?
the inside engraving will never see light of day except when someone takes pics, so it seems kind of a waste to have all that engraving inside. however, i can see people wanting to keep the outside simple.
oh right. that's my vote. 'fkjoey' for all boards, or just joey's if too expensive.
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 11 March 2017, 17:46:42
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 18:25:09
Edit: Having the "simple" variant on the outside isn't a deal breaker, I too would just prefer to see my edition number. :thumb:
Post by: kenlee on Sat, 11 March 2017, 18:29:46
Post by: Hako on Sat, 11 March 2017, 18:32:59
Post by: tuba section on Sat, 11 March 2017, 18:40:21
Post by: jessica on Sat, 11 March 2017, 19:37:02
Post by: Unforgivable on Sat, 11 March 2017, 20:21:31
My vote is to keep it the way it is.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Sat, 11 March 2017, 21:32:38
I personally liked the plain X60 on the outside, mainly because I'm not going to be staring at it constantly. And if I ever pick it up, that simple, yet elegant X60 will show, instead of x/100.
My vote is to keep it the way it is.
I agree, the board design is by nature simple, yet elegant. Swapping the detail, in my humble onion, would look too busy.
TLDR, keep it as is. No swap.
Post by: Jumie on Sat, 11 March 2017, 21:50:07
Post by: P1kas on Sat, 11 March 2017, 22:11:59
Post by: Jemaunji on Sat, 11 March 2017, 23:08:13
Post by: ipreferpie on Sat, 11 March 2017, 23:38:09
Post by: Gatix on Sun, 12 March 2017, 04:50:31
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 12 March 2017, 07:40:45
Post by: Khers on Sun, 12 March 2017, 08:08:28
Post by: fendent on Sun, 12 March 2017, 10:10:23
Maybe those with a numbered one would like the detail on the outside, those who have a standard would would have the simple on the outside? With the number on the outside I could, at a glance, show people who have no idea about keyboards and be like 'hey this weight is the only one of it's kind, see?' and they would almost certainly be jealous.
Seems like that would be a reason to have gotten in on the first 30 so you got a numbered one :P
Post by: poolside on Sun, 12 March 2017, 13:18:54
When will the form for extra plates (Steel, Poly, Alu, etc.,) go out?I still don't know if I'm doing that yet :) I'll receive brass/polycarbonate plates in the bulk shipment on April 13th and will assess the quality.
Still interested in an extra SS plate. ;D
I'm currently talking to the factory about custom boxes, but not sure how far that'll go. Ruling out custom foam/boxes, how would everyone like to see their keyboards packed? Any hints, tips, paragraphs of descriptions would be appreciated.
A plain brown box with a top which wraps around to the side (similar to the boxes kin25 packs his boards with) could be great. It could be used to store the X60 safely away when swapping keyboards.
So at the minute there are two types of engraving:MoreThe engraving currently on the outside, now referred to as SIMPLE.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ujcS7I2.png)
And the engraving currently on the inside, now referred to as DETAIL.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sL35gi7.png)
When assembled, on the bottom you will see SIMPLE. You would have to take the case apart to see DETAIL.
I am considering swapping this around. The swap would mean when assembled, on the bottom you will see DETAIL, and you would have to take the case apart to see SIMPLE.
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND OPINIONS.
Whether you're involved in the group buy or not, I would like your opinion. Swapping these around wouldn't require a new prototype (a new prototype would add 30 days on), but if there is enough people wanting a new prototype (if you're involved in the group buy) then I will.
Regarding the production weights, I'll be talking to the factory on Monday, and by Tuesday I should have a rough idea of how long the issues with the prototypes will take to solve.
My vote is for SIMPLE on the outside, although I have no strong preference for one over the other.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:39:34
Its nice to get everyone's opinion but since both options seem to be equally supported and most don't have a hard opinion on this, I'd say go with whatever you think would be best xon.
Switch my vote to creators choice pls
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:21:01
Maybe those with a numbered one would like the detail on the outside, those who have a standard would would have the simple on the outside? With the number on the outside I could, at a glance, show people who have no idea about keyboards and be like 'hey this weight is the only one of it's kind, see?' and they would almost certainly be jealous.
Your last sentence is exactly why I would rather keep the design as is. Thank you for the chuckle, lol!
Post by: NolaSwag on Mon, 13 March 2017, 00:13:55
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 13 March 2017, 00:25:31
Post by: JulienC on Mon, 13 March 2017, 05:18:54
Post by: henz on Mon, 13 March 2017, 05:24:48
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 13 March 2017, 14:24:11
Post by: ankailou on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:11:00
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Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 13 March 2017, 21:19:00
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:03:52
I'd personally prefer the simple if I had the standard version, but it seems awfully silly to have individual board specific engraving only to hide it away in a location that many people are only going to see once.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:06:01
Post by: fendent on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:15:18
Okay, going to close the overall vote at 14/16, advantage swap. Now because of how close this is, it's not really helped sway my position, which is swap. I'll be creating new files over the next day or so whilst continuing talks with the manufacturer on making sure the production weights are perfect. I can see talks being concluded by Friday.
Thanks for reaching out and asking us what we'd like even if it causes another little delay. Much appreciated ;D
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:54:57
Okay, going to close the overall vote at 14/16, advantage swap. Now because of how close this is, it's not really helped sway my position, which is swap. I'll be creating new files over the next day or so whilst continuing talks with the manufacturer on making sure the production weights are perfect. I can see talks being concluded by Friday.
I'd much rather the business on the inside and simple on the out. Excited for the board none the less.
Post by: Jumie on Tue, 14 March 2017, 00:07:48
Post by: xondat on Thu, 16 March 2017, 10:03:17
(http://i.imgur.com/nIMT5T5.jpg)
Looks like the finishing process has been mostly fixed. Pictures are before and after. We're almost ready to go into production, the factory are investigating the engraving and I'm sure we'll have a fix any time soon.
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:19:09
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:22:02
Can't spot a difference right now tbh, as the material leftovers in 'carbon edition' still seem to be the same.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:33:47
Can you point out what was changed xon?
Can't spot a difference right now tbh, as the material leftovers in 'carbon edition' still seem to be the same.
It's a consistent finish now.
(http://i.imgur.com/tGygLpP.jpg)
You should be able to see how inconsistently colored the finish was on my prototype.
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:35:04
Can you point out what was changed xon?
Can't spot a difference right now tbh, as the material leftovers in 'carbon edition' still seem to be the same.
It's a consistent finish now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tGygLpP.jpg)
You should be able to see how inconsistently colored the finish was on my prototype.
i cant ****ing wait for this board
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:37:28
Post by: xondat on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:58:06
isn't that just normal tarnishing? actually looks pretty cool with "carbon edition" getting darker
I think that plays a part, but I'd rather deliver the weights as clean as possible.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 16 March 2017, 17:37:27
i cant ****ing wait for this board
+1
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:56:52
but I'd rather deliver the weights as clean as possible.
Kudos to you good sir.
Hyped for this board, can't wait
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 18 March 2017, 08:04:10
Just offering my 0.02, cant wait for this no matter the outcome of these decisions.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:35:47
Post by: xondat on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:44:36
Post by: jessica on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:45:56
I've had word that they've fixed the engraving, so we should enter 30 days of production on Monday!
So, ETA as of now? Looking at April 20th or so for production to finish?
Post by: fendent on Sat, 18 March 2017, 13:58:34
I've had word that they've fixed the engraving, so we should enter 30 days of production on Monday!
Awww yeah
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 18 March 2017, 15:11:26
I've had word that they've fixed the engraving, so we should enter 30 days of production on Monday!
Woot!
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 20 March 2017, 08:04:37
To keep the convo going, how will these be shipped?
I recall you mentioning you'll have them prebuilt to avoid any movement of metal, which is a good idea considering what occurred with the Mech27 shipping. Brass and aluminum flailing about inside a box makes me feel queasy. :(
I think copying what Kin does would be idea for these boards! His method is pretty flawless and avoids any damage to the board and PCB. The box has foam all over, and most importantly two thick pieces of foam on both sides of the board have holes so the keyboard avoids movement within the box, then the top layer is indented enough for the PCB to fit in, then another layer of foam went on top, this way there was no pressure applied to the PCB at all.
It sounds pretty complicated with my awful explanation, but I can link his thread later.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 21 March 2017, 12:43:11
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:12:50
This keyboard will be worth the wait with all this attention to delivering a flawless product
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 21 March 2017, 13:24:28
Post by: fendent on Tue, 21 March 2017, 21:21:52
Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:17:54
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:24:05
Post by: Damonskv on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:33:03
Few more things:You are so 72 ;)
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Post by: Khers on Wed, 22 March 2017, 11:23:12
Post by: pexon on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:42:56
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:09:46
It's happening!
Post by: seblove on Wed, 22 March 2017, 17:29:33
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 22 March 2017, 17:33:26
Few more things:
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
fantastic sir
thanks so much for all the hard work and diligence
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:38:44
In for a brass plate!Might have to try a brass one myself.
Post by: Jemaunji on Thu, 23 March 2017, 00:45:37
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 23 March 2017, 07:38:57
Seriously excited for Brass and Poly plates!
Post by: limitz on Thu, 23 March 2017, 08:16:10
Few more things:
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Is there any possibility for partial plates?
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:03:46
Few more things:
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Is there any possibility for partial plates?
I don't think partial plates would be possible due to the design of the plate. There would be nothing supporting the stabilized areas. :(
Post by: joey on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:05:15
You can cut just around the alphas, it should work.Few more things:
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Is there any possibility for partial plates?
I don't think partial plates would be possible due to the design of the plate. There would be nothing supporting the stabilized areas. :(
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:17:54
You can cut just around the alphas, it should work.Few more things:
Q: What order will you be shipping the cases in?
A: In shipping invoice order. If you pay 1st, it'll be shipped first, iIf you pay 71st, you'll be 71st etc.
Q: Will you take additional plate orders?
A: As I'll most likely be needing replacements, I'll also open up for plate orders so you can buy an additional plate if you want. Please see the replacement section for a timeline. These will ship separately to your case.
Q: What variations of additional plates will be available?
A: Black aluminum, dark gray aluminum, silver aluminum, red aluminum, gold aluminum, stainless steel, polycarbonate, and brass.
Q: Will you include feet, hex keys and spare screws with the cases?
A: Yes, in total there will be 8+2 case screws, 8+2 plate screws, and 2+1 weight screws along with a hex key and 4 3M Bumpon feet.
Q: Is there an additional charge for replacement parts?
A: Of course not.
Q: My PayPal protection has/is about to run out, can you reinvoice me?
A: Definitely. Please email support@noxary.co with subject "Order #xx Reinvoice". The body should include your invoice number and PayPal email.
Q: Why can't you have the cases shipped to you now to check for defects?
A: Unfortunately I do not have the space to keep 100 cases for a month in my room.
Is there any possibility for partial plates?
I don't think partial plates would be possible due to the design of the plate. There would be nothing supporting the stabilized areas. :(
Very true, good point Joey! It might flex a lot though, but if it works, then that would be awesome!
So excited for this. It's worth the wait! I wonder if Pexon is still gonna do that cable giveaway. (:
Post by: joey on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:20:21
I think the flex is the point of it :p
Very true, good point Joey! It might flex a lot though, but if it works, then that would be awesome!
So excited for this. It's worth the wait! I wonder if Pexon is still gonna do that cable giveaway. (:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:41:45
- The factory pointed out that the engravings weren't centered, I must've incorrectly aligned them due to swapping the engravings around. My designer is redoing the outlines to match the surface the engravings will be on, and expects to have them completed tomorrow evening.
- I'll get a partial plate aluminum prototype made with the brass and polycarbonate plates. The alphas won't have any plate, but the outside keys (including the number row) will.
- I'll be making the 10 Pexon cables happen. I just need to figure out lead time so I can ship them with your cases. If the lead time is too long, then I'll ship them separately to you. You'll have to sign up to this draw, just having an order does not make you eligible. This is so I can make sure it goes to someone active and we can minimize any delays.
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:51:11
I think the flex is the point of it :p
Very true, good point Joey! It might flex a lot though, but if it works, then that would be awesome!
So excited for this. It's worth the wait! I wonder if Pexon is still gonna do that cable giveaway. (:
Well no, I meant like 'dangerous, I'm gonna break/stay bent' flex, lol. I'm familiar with tray partial plates, not top though.
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:51:59
Three things regarding X60:
- The factory pointed out that the engravings weren't centered, I must've incorrectly aligned them due to swapping the engravings around. My designer is redoing the outlines to match the surface the engravings will be on, and expects to have them completed tomorrow evening.
- I'll get a partial plate aluminum prototype made with the brass and polycarbonate plates. The alphas won't have any plate, but the outside keys (including the number row) will.
- I'll be making the 10 Pexon cables happen. I just need to figure out lead time so I can ship them with your cases. If the lead time is too long, then I'll ship them separately to you. You'll have to sign up to this draw, just having an order does not make you eligible. This is so I can make sure it goes to someone active and we can minimize any delays.
You rock, Xondat! Thanks for the updates and chance at getting more plates soon!
Post by: aaron6301 on Thu, 23 March 2017, 10:07:08
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 23 March 2017, 23:53:01
I'd be in for both a brass and poly plate :thumb:
Same!
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 24 March 2017, 00:12:02
When you do shipping invoices, are you going to send out all invoices simultaneously? Is there an option to prepay shipping?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:28:57
When will we be signing up/paying for extra plates?
When you do shipping invoices, are you going to send out all invoices simultaneously? Is there an option to prepay shipping?
Once I receive the bulk shipment.
I'll send invoices out as soon as you've filled the shipping info form out. No there isn't.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 25 March 2017, 22:18:39
Post by: xondat on Sun, 26 March 2017, 14:39:56
(http://i.imgur.com/AsJU9cj.png)
Files are ready to go. Pictures are for a bit of fun :))
Post by: SixtyLife on Sun, 26 March 2017, 15:08:42
Bootiful :-*Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnxnHCi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AsJU9cj.png)
Files are ready to go. Pictures are for a bit of fun :))
Post by: NolaSwag on Sun, 26 March 2017, 22:30:20
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cnxnHCi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AsJU9cj.png)
Files are ready to go. Pictures are for a bit of fun :))
hell yea my guy
Post by: xondat on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:15:39
Post by: tuba section on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:16:51
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter. Thanks for offering this.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:17:21
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Awesome xon!
I would like to enter,
love me some pexon <3
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:17:44
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I'd like to enter. Thanks for the giveaway. :)
Post by: pexon on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:18:04
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter
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I'd be diggity down to enter for this one
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Post by: Hako on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:28:38
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I'd like to enter, thanks!
Post by: Khers on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:30:55
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!I'd like to enter
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:31:32
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I'd like to enter
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:32:54
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I'd like to enter please...
Bonus points for entering from here:
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With this dude?
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Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:34:54
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i would like to enter good sir, love me a pexon cable
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:38:54
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Yarrr, I want pexon's booty
Post by: Damonskv on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:41:46
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Post by: briannnn on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:42:17
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I'd like to enter as well. Those cables are too good to pass up.
Post by: Butter on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:43:00
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I'll like to enter.
Post by: aaron6301 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:44:28
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Post by: Malenky on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:49:01
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I would like to enter. :))
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:55:42
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Enter me up :)
Post by: neon_tom on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:57:18
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Definitely want to enter!
Post by: -pineapple- on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:57:34
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Post by: jeffbolton on Mon, 27 March 2017, 15:28:31
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I would like to enter. Thanks!
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 27 March 2017, 15:28:54
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Count me in please. GL everyone
Post by: maximm on Mon, 27 March 2017, 15:32:54
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I would like to enter
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 27 March 2017, 15:33:01
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I would like to enter good sir
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Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:11:56
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I would like to enter!! :D
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:35:42
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I'm in.
Post by: logomachy on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:36:58
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Post by: fendent on Mon, 27 March 2017, 16:46:36
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I'd like to enter
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 27 March 2017, 17:25:10
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter. Thanks.
Post by: ankailou on Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:25:28
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter.
Post by: Jumie on Mon, 27 March 2017, 19:49:54
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter. Thanks
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:26:15
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter!
Thanks a ton, Xondat!
Post by: flippanteer on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:50:56
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I would like to enter!
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 27 March 2017, 20:51:41
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!Enter me pls
;)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 27 March 2017, 21:05:09
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I would like to enter!
I thought it'd be obvious but you've gone above and beyond. It's only open to people in the group buy.
Three things regarding X60:
- The factory pointed out that the engravings weren't centered, I must've incorrectly aligned them due to swapping the engravings around. My designer is redoing the outlines to match the surface the engravings will be on, and expects to have them completed tomorrow evening.
- I'll get a partial plate aluminum prototype made with the brass and polycarbonate plates. The alphas won't have any plate, but the outside keys (including the number row) will.
- I'll be making the 10 Pexon cables happen. I just need to figure out lead time so I can ship them with your cases. If the lead time is too long, then I'll ship them separately to you. You'll have to sign up to this draw, just having an order does not make you eligible. This is so I can make sure it goes to someone active and we can minimize any delays.
I'd like to enter.
Might want to edit that post with the correct quote ;)
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 27 March 2017, 21:49:29
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I would like to enter!
I thought it'd be obvious but you've gone above and beyond. It's only open to people in the group buy.
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Post by: effectiveduck on Mon, 27 March 2017, 22:11:33
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd defs like to enter.
Post by: NolaSwag on Tue, 28 March 2017, 00:46:52
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
Entered, thanks for this xondat!
Post by: lishi on Tue, 28 March 2017, 04:05:01
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter! Thanks xondat
Post by: wodan on Tue, 28 March 2017, 04:06:13
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I would like to enter ;D
Also HIGHLY interested in getting brass plates for both my orders, what do I have to do?
Post by: JulienC on Tue, 28 March 2017, 04:27:30
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter !
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 28 March 2017, 05:51:59
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter
Post by: xondat on Tue, 28 March 2017, 07:22:26
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 28 March 2017, 09:42:39
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
Count me as entered my man
Also super pumped about a brass plate option, so I'll grab one of those as well!
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 28 March 2017, 10:47:23
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I would like to enter!
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 28 March 2017, 12:26:56
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter. :)
Post by: Jemaunji on Tue, 28 March 2017, 14:57:11
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter!
Post by: R4WBIT on Tue, 28 March 2017, 15:09:47
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
Entering! Thanks for the opportunity.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 28 March 2017, 15:22:14
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter.
Post by: poolside on Tue, 28 March 2017, 17:42:58
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter as well, thanks!
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter please...
Bonus points for entering from here:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170327/61879fa05242e0fe551268fd2030e220.jpg)
With this dude?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170327/031e7483c9ec3f51c811002453b9d5ad.jpg)
Is this snow in Arizona?
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 28 March 2017, 17:50:48
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter as well, thanks!To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter please...
Bonus points for entering from here:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170327/61879fa05242e0fe551268fd2030e220.jpg)
With this dude?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170327/031e7483c9ec3f51c811002453b9d5ad.jpg)
Is this snow in Arizona?
No, I wish! I miss this white stuff. It's in Colorado... out visiting the fam and the homeland. 5 1/2 year old had a blast... 2 1/2 year old got his $30 worth on one magic carpet ride up/ shrieking all the way down. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ next year for him.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:40:05
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:48:06
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter. Thanks xondat.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 29 March 2017, 00:53:53
Will the PCB fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
Every thread I read has turned to 'will it fit holtites?'
Keyboards are ment to be soldered, not ez snap sister
Post by: Gatix on Wed, 29 March 2017, 03:07:33
(http://i.imgur.com/NYmHLp0.jpg)
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 29 March 2017, 03:16:17
Will the PCB fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
Every thread I read has turned to 'will it fit holtites?'
Keyboards are ment to be soldered, not ez snap sister
preach it
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 29 March 2017, 06:20:36
Post by: hervuli on Wed, 29 March 2017, 07:13:18
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter! Thanks for doing this :)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:56:49
Will the PCB fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
I have no idea.
What is the background behind the 'Noxary' name if you don't mind me asking?
Well I needed something to separate xondat from the work I do, because having a company and user called xondat would end up being confusing. Criteria was really a few things:
- Easy to pronounce from reading, and easy to write from hearing
- 6 letters
- Must relate closely to xondat
- Available domains/not used before
- Must look nice (NOXARY, Noxary, noxary)
- xondat backwards is tadnox, NOX from that
- Rotary (watches), thought it sounded nice, ARY from that
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:30:45
Will the PCB fit the switch holtites? Thanks!
I have no idea.What is the background behind the 'Noxary' name if you don't mind me asking?
Well I needed something to separate xondat from the work I do, because having a company and user called xondat would end up being confusing. Criteria was really a few things:After a few days of just screwing around with names, I came up with Noxary combining:
- Easy to pronounce from reading, and easy to write from hearing
- 6 letters
- Must relate closely to xondat
- Available domains/not used before
- Must look nice (NOXARY, Noxary, noxary)
So putting the two together met the criteria, creating Noxary on the 9th of September last year.
- xondat backwards is tadnox, NOX from that
- Rotary (watches), thought it sounded nice, ARY from that
But did you consider SUPER KEYBOARDCO LIMITED INC.?
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:19:45
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:20:17
This is likely a long shot as I believe there are only 4 configurations of this, but is anyone willing to trade their Black Winkeyless top for my Black HHKB top?
Edit: If Xon is cool with the trade, that is.
Post by: flameray on Wed, 29 March 2017, 19:53:33
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 29 March 2017, 20:33:35
Post by: joey on Fri, 31 March 2017, 08:33:58
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post, have at least one order and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!you'd like to enter
Post by: romevi on Fri, 31 March 2017, 08:36:23
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post, have at least one order and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!you'd like to enter
You forgot the rest of the sentence.
Post by: TieuNgu on Fri, 31 March 2017, 17:17:15
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post, have at least one order and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter :D
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 02 April 2017, 15:29:06
Post by: PriusProblems on Sun, 02 April 2017, 15:38:01
To enter the Pexon cable giveaway, all you need to do is quote this post, have at least one order and say you'd like to enter within the next 7 days. There will be 10 available, and they'll ship with your order. Winners will be announced here; I'll contact you to get your configuration, and you'll have 48 hours to tell me otherwise I'll pass it on. This gives me time to pay him and make sure they're here in time. Good luck!
I'd like to enter!
Post by: xondat on Sun, 02 April 2017, 18:01:22
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 02 April 2017, 19:11:16
Post by: xondat on Sun, 02 April 2017, 20:40:12
aaron6301swimmingbirdfendentriotonthebayunforgivablejoeyfoc_towsixtylifejessicamalenky
Post by: SixtyLife on Sun, 02 April 2017, 20:44:24
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 02 April 2017, 20:46:13
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Post by: fendent on Sun, 02 April 2017, 20:52:48
Post by: Unforgivable on Sun, 02 April 2017, 21:22:42
Post by: smittysteve on Sun, 02 April 2017, 21:26:10
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 02 April 2017, 21:57:25
Thanks soo much xondat! <3
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 02 April 2017, 23:05:35
Post by: oatmicro on Mon, 03 April 2017, 01:45:37
Post by: xondat on Mon, 03 April 2017, 16:45:30
Post by: joey on Mon, 03 April 2017, 16:47:09
Updated the announcement post to reflect your messages. If your name is crossed out, I have your message and you're set. Hurry up Unforgivable and joey ;)I'm tired af right now, will decide after work tomorrow.
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 03 April 2017, 20:28:03
Updated the announcement post to reflect your messages. If your name is crossed out, I have your message and you're set. Hurry up Unforgivable and joey ;)
BAM! Pm sent!
Thanks again, Xondat. Seriously, you're awesome!
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 13:36:31
I got HyperChill! :cool:
Post by: fendent on Tue, 04 April 2017, 14:12:13
So, what color cable did you guys get?
I got HyperChill! :cool:
MDPC-X Vivid Violet Small
can't wait :D
Post by: pexon on Tue, 04 April 2017, 14:58:11
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 04 April 2017, 15:01:51
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
I chose to go with HMS Grey w/Carbon Techflex mainly because I already own a MDPX-C in Italian red (from you) in addition to two other MDPC-X cables that are on order (from you as well) :thumb:
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:11:50
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:29:46
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
Could you explain the differences between MDPC-X and a regular USB cable? :(
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:32:14
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
MDPC-X platinum grey over here <3
Post by: joey on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:33:09
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:43:00
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
MDPC-X platinum grey over here <3
Did you get it for the looks or does it function differently? I tried to google it, but only got other cable websites to show up. :(
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:47:52
anyways, thanks again Xondat.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:48:05
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
Could you explain the differences between MDPC-X and a regular USB cable? :(
MDPX-C is more of a woven 'plastic/nylon' compared to 550 paracord feeling like fabric.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:57:03
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
MDPC-X platinum grey over here <3
Did you get it for the looks or does it function differently? I tried to google it, but only got other cable websites to show up. :(
Don't worry, your good either way unforgivable so I would mainly suggest choosing whatever you like.
MDPC-X is a plastic type sleeping and generally considert the most premium option for powersupply cables.
For USB cables it's not as night and day tho. Paracord sleeving is more flexible then MDPC-X, so paracord would definitely be recommended for headsets, mouse cables etc.
Keyboard is kind of inbetween in my eyes, I'd just recommend going by looks =)
Pexon has a few recommendations on his site aswell including which combinations hold coils well etc
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 17:06:32
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
Could you explain the differences between MDPC-X and a regular USB cable? :(
MDPX-C is more of a woven 'plastic/nylon' compared to 550 paracord feeling like fabric.
y u all not go MDPC-X :o
MDPC-X platinum grey over here <3
Did you get it for the looks or does it function differently? I tried to google it, but only got other cable websites to show up. :(
Don't worry, your good either way unforgivable so I would mainly suggest choosing whatever you like.
MDPC-X is a plastic type sleeping and generally considert the most premium option for powersupply cables.
For USB cables it's not as night and day tho. Paracord sleeving is more flexible then MDPC-X, so paracord would definitely be recommended for headsets, mouse cables etc.
Keyboard is kind of inbetween in my eyes, I'd just recommend going by looks =)
Pexon has a few recommendations on his site aswell including which combinations hold coils well etc
Thanks a ton, guys! I like the idea behind the added durability. I might change my order. :-[
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 18:49:35
And the winners are...I'll send out a PM to the winners now and you all have 48 hours to choose your cables. If someone doesn't let me know in time, then I'll randomly pick another person.
aaron6301swimmingbirdfendentriotonthebayunforgivablejoeyfoc_towsixtylifejessicamalenky
Xondat, I sent a pm to change my order, is everything still okay?
I hopped on the MDPC-X train!
Post by: xondat on Tue, 04 April 2017, 20:54:38
Xondat, I sent a pm to change my order, is everything still okay?
I hopped on the MDPC-X train!
Most recent message is what I used :)
I've sent Pexon the message with all the orders, but it's 2:30AM so we'll talk tomorrow! They'll be here in time anyway.
I'm also hosting a competition looking for my new icon logo, you can check out the post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82653.msg2396794#msg2396794)!
Post by: Unforgivable on Tue, 04 April 2017, 23:00:41
Xondat, I sent a pm to change my order, is everything still okay?
I hopped on the MDPC-X train!
Most recent message is what I used :)
I've sent Pexon the message with all the orders, but it's 2:30AM so we'll talk tomorrow! They'll be here in time anyway.
I'm also hosting a competition looking for my new icon logo, you can check out the post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82653.msg2396794#msg2396794)!
Woo hoo! Thanks Xondat! Now I can be cool, like everyone else. :cool:
I went with MDPC-X, Natural White, with 550 HyperChill paracord. :cool:
I'm gonna try making a logo ASAP! Too cool not to try.
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 07 April 2017, 12:45:18
Thanks!
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Post by: doom2 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:19:00
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:29:27
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:33:42
spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:35:23
spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
$410
https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:43:39
spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
$410
https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2
Mine! Filled the form. Is this the official process for selling spots?
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:47:29
That was quick! Haha I was thinking about canceling my RJ and getting this since it ships soon.spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
$410
https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2
Mine! Filled the form. Is this the official process for selling spots?
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Post by: doom2 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:50:31
That was quick! Haha I was thinking about canceling my RJ and getting this since it ships soon.
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Haha. It's funny, I was reading a thread on one of pr0ximity's 356mini threads on reddit and he mentioned this board...so I got it!
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 12 April 2017, 14:51:23
spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
$410
https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2
Mine! Filled the form. Is this the official process for selling spots?
Yeah, xondat made that form a while back for people who were selling their spots. It used to have more options, but he's been updating it accordingly.
You should be getting an invoice from him then he'll refund my invoice. Safe and convenient for both parties, so thanks to xondat for doing it this way
Post by: johnthedong on Wed, 12 April 2017, 18:40:08
spot #68 is still open afaik
silver hhkb, red ansi plate and pcb
What is the price on this kit?
$410
https://goo.gl/forms/gjFkkqpNLDvT8DdT2
Mine! Filled the form. Is this the official process for selling spots?
Yeah, xondat made that form a while back for people who were selling their spots. It used to have more options, but he's been updating it accordingly.
You should be getting an invoice from him then he'll refund my invoice. Safe and convenient for both parties, so thanks to xondat for doing it this way
Welp, I guess I was too late!
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 12 April 2017, 19:26:44
Welp, I guess I was too late!
Maybe not! I might be getting someone *else's* spot and heard from xondat that there is some backend shuffling to be done so not all hope is lost!
Post by: jessica on Fri, 14 April 2017, 02:54:02
Post by: Damonskv on Fri, 14 April 2017, 03:51:01
Anyone know if the board is expected to ship early/mid/late May?I think it will be shipped in early, mid or late May :D
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:19:31
Post by: xondat on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:02:15
These aren't the "official" extra plates. They won't be finished at all, and the prices will be much higher. These are purely so I can test the properties of different materials in a plate without delaying the main shipment. There is no particular limit, and I encourage people to wait for the "official" brass plates.
The "official" extra plates will be available to order in the next few weeks in between the dates I receive X60, and start X75 production.
Production is still expected to end on the 30th, so shipping will begin early May as expected.
Edit: Just to be clear, you're messaging me to register your interest, and I'll let you know the pricing once I know how many want what.
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:32:30
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:46:52
I'll be ordering some brass, copper, and titanium ANSI plates from a local place soon. If anyone wants one, please message me.
These aren't the "official" extra plates. They won't be finished at all, and the prices will be much higher. These are purely so I can test the properties of different materials in a plate without delaying the main shipment. There is no particular limit, and I encourage people to wait for the "official" brass plates.
The "official" extra plates will be available to order in the next few weeks in between the dates I receive X60, and start X75 production.
Production is still expected to end on the 30th, so shipping will begin early May as expected.
Edit: Just to be clear, you're messaging me to register your interest, and I'll let you know the pricing once I know how many want what.
Wait. Titanium? :eek:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:51:36
What would price be? Also, how "not finished" are they? Enough to scratch the inside of the case or anything?
Not sure on price, which is why I'm seeing the interest. Not finished meaning they have no additional surface treatment. Size wouldn't be affected by finishing.
Wait. Titanium? :eek:
Yes :eek:
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:18:30
What would price be? Also, how "not finished" are they? Enough to scratch the inside of the case or anything?
Not sure on price, which is why I'm seeing the interest. Not finished meaning they have no additional surface treatment. Size wouldn't be affected by finishing.Wait. Titanium? :eek:
Yes :eek:
How much for one of those bad boys?
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:41:44
I'll be ordering some brass, copper, and titanium ANSI plates from a local place soon. If anyone wants one, please message me.
These aren't the "official" extra plates. They won't be finished at all, and the prices will be much higher. These are purely so I can test the properties of different materials in a plate without delaying the main shipment. There is no particular limit, and I encourage people to wait for the "official" brass plates.
The "official" extra plates will be available to order in the next few weeks in between the dates I receive X60, and start X75 production.
Production is still expected to end on the 30th, so shipping will begin early May as expected.
Edit: Just to be clear, you're messaging me to register your interest, and I'll let you know the pricing once I know how many want what.
As you didn't list it, will PC still be available with the 'official' extra plates xon?
I get that PC plates have to be done by cnc (atleast afaik) since laser cutting leaves burned edges and rather toxic fumes, but I'm still very much hoping PC will happend as it was mentioned before.
Titanium sounds smexy tho btw
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:06:16
Post by: xondat on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:46:57
How much for one of those bad boys?
Depends heavily on quantity which is why I'm gauging it, I'll get a figure out asap.
As you didn't list it, will PC still be available with the 'official' extra plates xon?
I get that PC plates have to be done by cnc (atleast afaik) since laser cutting leaves burned edges and rather toxic fumes, but I'm still very much hoping PC will happend as it was mentioned before.
Titanium sounds smexy tho btw
I'm making "unofficial" plates available in:
- Titanium
- Copper
- Brass
The "official" plate extras are:
- Polycarbonate
- Aluminum
- Stainless Steel
- Brass
If we want a official plates, could we wait to get the items shipped together? I'm assuming the kbd will be done before the official brass plates.
Preferably not. I don't want keyboards around my house and the group buy staying unfinished for another (up to) 6 weeks.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 21 April 2017, 13:10:51
Down for some polycarb, altho titanium sounds really tempting aswell...
Post by: Hako on Fri, 21 April 2017, 13:43:31
Post by: xondat on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:35:51
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 22 April 2017, 14:26:30
Do you have a price estimate for the titanium plates? I may be down for one depending on how much it costs.
+1
I'm gonna have to wait and see what the price is.
Still debating on whether I want to try a brass plate.
Post by: doom2 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 13:45:14
Post by: jacky on Tue, 25 April 2017, 22:56:20
Post by: xondat on Wed, 26 April 2017, 05:13:45
On April 30th there will be no more re-invoicing unless there are more delays (which I doubt).
No update on the extra Ti or Cu plates. Extra plates will be available the day after I receive the shipment until May 14.
So close now.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 27 April 2017, 07:38:18
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 27 April 2017, 10:14:12
Got the quotes back. If anyone is interested, Copper is $50. Unfortunately I didn't get a quote for 1 plate of titanium, so I've emailed back asking how to get these made.
Ooh, I'd be interested. Curious about the titanium, too, wonder what that'll run.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 29 April 2017, 19:52:45
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Must contain all emotion.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 April 2017, 22:59:50
Production is supposed to end today. As it's a Sunday my rep isn't online, so I expect communication in around 24 hours.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/cSozWbWHEfUis/giphy.gif)
Must contain all emotion.
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Post by: fendent on Sun, 30 April 2017, 11:47:17
Let's do this
Post by: xondat on Sun, 30 April 2017, 20:49:38
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Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 30 April 2017, 23:06:23
Hey, guess what? China also celebrate Labor/May Day. Another 24 hours because I didn't even know they did.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/wVcNP3TnXbl84/giphy.gif)
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Post by: fendent on Sun, 30 April 2017, 23:48:50
Hey, guess what? China also celebrate Labor/May Day. Another 24 hours because I didn't even know they did.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/wVcNP3TnXbl84/giphy.gif)
Filing dispute
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 01 May 2017, 00:17:46
Hey, guess what? China also celebrate Labor/May Day. Another 24 hours because I didn't even know they did.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/wVcNP3TnXbl84/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Jemaunji on Mon, 01 May 2017, 01:02:04
Hey, guess what? China also celebrate Labor/May Day. Another 24 hours because I didn't even know they did.Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/wVcNP3TnXbl84/giphy.gif)Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/c59MniC60fnuo/giphy.gif)
Too soon :(
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:08:44
Quote
[2:05:08 AM] (cnc machining): they haven't been finished,still need several days
[...]
[2:48:35 AM] Anthony: are you able to give a date for shipment at all?
[2:51:05 AM] (cnc machining): we will ship the all the keyboards after (keyboard weights) received.is 12th May ok for you
[2:51:39 AM] Anthony: the sooner the better
[2:51:50 AM] Anthony: if that is as soon, then yes that's ok
[2:52:28 AM] (cnc machining): i also hope we can ship them to you as soon as possible
This one really messes with me - I thought it was the end of production. I should receive them around May 15/16 now.
More bad news too. No titanium plates, only copper if I wanted that, but the materials are really similar to Brass so they probably wouldn't be worth it.
Quote
Our supplier cannot quote us at present for that material. This is a supply chain issue which is been looked in to.
I might try some other places, or even the factory in China, but I don't really want to think about this project at the minute.
I apologise this has been a complete nuisance to everyone involved.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:21:25
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 02 May 2017, 15:16:15
Last night didn't go so well. For some unknown reason, the parts aren't done yet. I'm sorry that I have to bring more disappointment here.Quote[2:05:08 AM] (cnc machining): they haven't been finished,still need several days
[...]
[2:48:35 AM] Anthony: are you able to give a date for shipment at all?
[2:51:05 AM] (cnc machining): we will ship the all the keyboards after balance received.is 12th May ok for you
[2:51:39 AM] Anthony: the sooner the better
[2:51:50 AM] Anthony: if that is as soon, then yes that's ok
[2:52:28 AM] (cnc machining): i also hope we can ship them to you as soon as possible
This one really messes with me - I thought it was the end of production. I should receive them around May 15/16 now.
More bad news too. No titanium plates, only copper if I wanted that, but the materials are really similar to Brass so they probably wouldn't be worth it.QuoteOur supplier cannot quote us at present for that material. This is a supply chain issue which is been looked in to.
I might try some other places, or even the factory in China, but I don't really want to think about this project at the minute.
I apologise this has been a complete nuisance to everyone involved.
you are doing great work sir, chin up, itll all be worth it at the end, i know you are looking forward to this as much if not more so than all of us if that is possible
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 02 May 2017, 15:57:29
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:17:45
I opted to not be reinvoiced while I could to not bother you with that stuff since I assumed that the case would have shipped out by now. But with all these delays, a reinvoice would be reassuring
Post by: xondat on Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:19:47
I just hope they are true to their word with the May 12th (getting to you by 16th) estimate. I won't be in country after June 5.
If you're moving out of the country, we can sort something out.
you are doing great work sir, chin up, itll all be worth it at the end, i know you are looking forward to this as much if not more so than all of us if that is possible
Main thing is all your communication which has been great. That's why everyone in this group buy is so chilled, even with the wait. It's a shame that the definition of 'acceptable communication' is different from the factory's end, but there's nothing you can do about that.
Thanks for the support :-*.
Is it possible to be reinvoiced even though coverage has long since been gone?
I opted to not be reinvoiced while I could to not bother you with that stuff since I assumed that the case would have shipped out by now. But with all these delays, a reinvoice would be reassuring
You would have to pay the PayPal fees again. Please email support@noxary.co if you choose to go this route (include username, email, and invoice number).
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:04:11
Thank you :-*
Post by: loud_asian on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:20:40
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
I was told that spots cannot be transferred right now, about a week ago
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:21:03
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:52:15
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Ok :( sorry mate didnt have time to go through all the comments
P/s: I can pay for shipping if someone wanna sell their case once you have received it
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 11 May 2017, 10:48:24
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:50:39
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Were transfers ever allowed?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:53:57
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Were transfers ever allowed?
Yes, there were quite a lot of changes.
Any news on production state xondat?
Shipping tomorrow! They've been finishing sandblasting and packaging everything this past couple of days.
I'll probably stick the shipping form up here tomorrow once I have confirmation; I just need to clear a couple of things up with DHL. I'll have a much bigger post will all the detail and prices etc in it once I get confirmation tomorrow :p
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 11 May 2017, 12:58:56
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Were transfers ever allowed?
Yes, there were quite a lot of changes.Any news on production state xondat?
Shipping tomorrow! They've been finishing sandblasting and packaging everything this past couple of days.
I'll probably stick the shipping form up here tomorrow once I have confirmation; I just need to clear a couple of things up with DHL. I'll have a much bigger post will all the detail and prices etc in it once I get confirmation tomorrow :p
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 13:37:20
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Were transfers ever allowed?
Yes, there were quite a lot of changes.
That's interesting as a potential seller had a slot and he told me that you weren't allowing for transfers :(.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 May 2017, 13:40:19
Looking for a spot (60 winkey version) anyone wanna back out please let me know
Thank you :-*
Transfers aren't open due to a close shipping date.
Were transfers ever allowed?
Yes, there were quite a lot of changes.
That's interesting as a potential seller had a slot and he told me that you weren't allowing for transfers :(.
I'll be opening them once I receive confirmation that the boards are shipping :-*
PS:
The three things that will open when I get confirmation are:
- Shipping form
- Extra plate form
- Slot transfers
Post by: fendent on Thu, 11 May 2017, 23:25:01
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 09:44:32
To make this as fair as possible, I will be putting the shipping form up at 5PM EST today. You should fill in 1 form per 1 order. You will need your PayPal email, original invoice number, order number (spreadsheet will go up soon), your address & contact details, and what you want the package declared/insured at.
Shipping order will be decided by invoice payment order. The sooner your form is submitted, the sooner you'll be invoiced, the sooner you can pay.
I'll also put the extra plate form up at that time, and also reopen order transfers (pre-existing transfers will complete).
Pricing for DHL Express (1-3 days delivery) are the following:
- United Kingdom - $20
- Europe - $40-60
- United States - $50
- Canada - $60
- Asia - $70
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 12 May 2017, 09:58:39
Guess who has a tracking number ;D
To make this as fair as possible, I will be putting the shipping form up at 5PM EST today. You should fill in 1 form per 1 order. You will need your PayPal email, original invoice number, order number (spreadsheet will go up soon), your address & contact details, and what you want the package declared/insured at.
Shipping order will be decided by invoice payment order. The sooner your form is submitted, the sooner you'll be invoiced, the sooner you can pay.
I'll also put the extra plate form up at that time, and also reopen order transfers (pre-existing transfers will complete).
Wahoo! Love it. Just in time for my birthday.
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:03:28
Guess who has a tracking number ;D
To make this as fair as possible, I will be putting the shipping form up at 5PM EST today. You should fill in 1 form per 1 order. You will need your PayPal email, original invoice number, order number (spreadsheet will go up soon), your address & contact details, and what you want the package declared/insured at.
Shipping order will be decided by invoice payment order. The sooner your form is submitted, the sooner you'll be invoiced, the sooner you can pay.
I'll also put the extra plate form up at that time, and also reopen order transfers (pre-existing transfers will complete).
Pricing for DHL Express (1-3 days delivery) are the following:This is flat pricing, so fees and whatever are included.
- United Kingdom - $20
- Europe - $40-60
- United States - $50
- Canada - $60
- Asia - $70
For those who purchased more than one, will shipping be combined to reduce additional fees?
So hyped this is finally almost to everyone. I still need to order switches!
Post by: Khers on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:04:23
Guess who has a tracking number ;DYay, it's happening!
To make this as fair as possible, I will be putting the shipping form up at 5PM EST today. You should fill in 1 form per 1 order. You will need your PayPal email, original invoice number, order number (spreadsheet will go up soon), your address & contact details, and what you want the package declared/insured at.
Shipping order will be decided by invoice payment order. The sooner your form is submitted, the sooner you'll be invoiced, the sooner you can pay.
I'll also put the extra plate form up at that time, and also reopen order transfers (pre-existing transfers will complete).
Pricing for DHL Express (1-3 days delivery) are the following:This is flat pricing, so fees and whatever are included.
- United Kingdom - $20
- Europe - $40-60
- United States - $50
- Canada - $60
- Asia - $70
Boo for US time zones...
Post by: Fictiouz on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:10:38
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Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:26:17
Does this mean everything will be shipped separate and shipping can't be combined aswell?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:36:24
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:51:34
Shipping cannot be combined in any way. Boxes are ordered to fit 1 keyboard, and the shipping is done by volumetric weight, so prices wouldn't change. If you have 3 orders you: fill in 3 forms, pay shipping 3 times, and receive 3 boxes.
Edit: Derp! Misread that. Nevermind. :(
Post by: maximm on Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:53:02
Shipping cannot be combined in any way. Boxes are ordered to fit 1 keyboard, and the shipping is done by volumetric weight, so prices wouldn't change. If you have 3 orders you: fill in 3 forms, pay shipping 3 times, and receive 3 boxes.
Hey Xondat, on the invoices you said shipping costs would be split. So does that mean the shipping should be $25 per person? I just remembered this after looking at my transactions for the form later.
Screenshot below.
http://imgur.com/a/DocvuShow Image(http://imgur.com/a/Docvu)
I think he meant that if you need to return a damaged board he would split the shipping with you.
Post by: Unforgivable on Fri, 12 May 2017, 12:00:38
Shipping cannot be combined in any way. Boxes are ordered to fit 1 keyboard, and the shipping is done by volumetric weight, so prices wouldn't change. If you have 3 orders you: fill in 3 forms, pay shipping 3 times, and receive 3 boxes.
Hey Xondat, on the invoices you said shipping costs would be split. So does that mean the shipping should be $25 per person? I just remembered this after looking at my transactions for the form later.
Screenshot below.
http://imgur.com/a/DocvuShow Image(http://imgur.com/a/Docvu)
I think he meant that if you need to return a damaged board he would split the shipping with you.
Hey! Yep, that's why I removed it (I totally misread it!). I would've crossed it out but I wasn't sure how to. Plus, being on mobile on this forum is meh.
Super excited. I have all my info ready for 5pm! Can't wait!
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 12 May 2017, 12:24:37
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:02:43
Spreadsheet isn't going up for now, but you don't need your order number.
Post by: brighenne on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:05:26
Please fill this shipping form in for your orders! (https://goo.gl/forms/FXaprtJzuuGxPBJf1)
Spreadsheet isn't going up for now, but you don't need your order number.
:thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:07:51
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Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:08:07
Post by: NolaSwag on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:11:07
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:11:51
Post by: aaron6301 on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:14:58
Post by: Khers on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:25:38
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 16:39:28
I'll have a list out of orders that are fully paid off ASAP. Working through another 20 now.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 12 May 2017, 17:06:48
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 12 May 2017, 17:47:10
thanks so much for all the time and work you have put in to this so far, and a huge thank you for the upcoming work you have in getting these all out to us
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 May 2017, 17:56:17
If you've paid, the order you're in is the order your order will ship in. I hope that makes sense :))
super excited for this xondat
thanks so much for all the time and work you have put in to this so far, and a huge thank you for the upcoming work you have in getting these all out to us
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Post by: axtran on Fri, 12 May 2017, 19:27:08
Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 12 May 2017, 20:40:10
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Sat, 13 May 2017, 04:22:35
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 07:41:04
Spot for sale:
- Black HHKB case
- Universal Red plate
- $350 + fees + shipping
- Please email support@noxary.co with your PayPal email
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 13 May 2017, 09:39:46
Spot for sale:Is it possible to swap my black HHKB top case for Winkeyless? Really regretting not selecting that option.
- Black Winkeyless case
- Universal Red plate
- $350 + fees + shipping
- Please email support@noxary.co with your PayPal email
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Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 13 May 2017, 09:47:46
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 10:28:02
Spot for sale:Is it possible to swap my black HHKB top case for Winkeyless? Really regretting not selecting that option.
- Black Winkeyless case
- Universal Red plate
- $350 + fees + shipping
- Please email support@noxary.co with your PayPal email
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Yes, PMd.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 11:26:58
Spot for sale:
- Black HHKB case
- Universal Red plate
- $350 + fees + shipping
- Please email support@noxary.co with your PayPal email
This is now accurate after a couple of changes.
Everyone that's filled the form in has an invoice; the public spreadsheet is up to date. 70 invoices have gone out, and 61 have been paid so I'd get on it so you're not last.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 14:33:32
I won't hold your order for these plates, so they will ship separately to your order.
These will be produced along side X75, so from this point delivery is maybe 7-8 weeks out with no delays. Some plates have a MOQ, but they shouldn't be an issues, especially since I'm likely to buy up to them if they're close. Prices are slightly higher than what would be usual due to I imagine lower quantities.
There will be no extra carbon fiber plates due to the high price at low quantities. If you really want one, please let me know so we can work it out.
Extra Plate Form (https://goo.gl/forms/7NM9fCGoOBzyxvnn2)
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 13 May 2017, 14:41:23
Extra Plate Form (https://goo.gl/forms/7NM9fCGoOBzyxvnn2)
Where's the Copper and other new stuff
Post by: doom2 on Sat, 13 May 2017, 14:48:33
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 14:50:29
Extra Plate Form (https://goo.gl/forms/7NM9fCGoOBzyxvnn2)
Where's the Copper and other new stuff
I'll add copper, titanium can't happen due to factory supply issues.
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 13 May 2017, 15:10:11
Extra Plate Form (https://goo.gl/forms/7NM9fCGoOBzyxvnn2)
Where's the Copper and other new stuff
I'll add copper, titanium can't happen due to factory supply issues.
Gotcha, Thank you! :thumb:
Post by: poolside on Sat, 13 May 2017, 15:12:42
How long is this form going to stay open?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 13 May 2017, 15:15:16
Extra plates :)
How long is this form going to stay open?
Probably straight up until I place the order. I'll send invoices when I'm invoicing for X75 :)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 13 May 2017, 17:41:46
I realized I completely forgot to put the form up for extra plates, so if you'd like them, please fill it in!
I won't hold your order for these plates, so they will ship separately to your order.
These will be produced along side X75, so from this point delivery is maybe 7-8 weeks out with no delays. Some plates have a MOQ, but they shouldn't be an issues, especially since I'm likely to buy up to them if they're close. Prices are slightly higher than what would be usual due to I imagine lower quantities.
There will be no extra carbon fiber plates due to the high price at low quantities. If you really want one, please let me know so we can work it out.
Extra Plate Form (https://goo.gl/forms/7NM9fCGoOBzyxvnn2)
thanks for adding this good sir
Post by: henz on Sun, 14 May 2017, 13:36:32
Post by: Quakemz on Sun, 14 May 2017, 22:56:18
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 15 May 2017, 09:00:04
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 15 May 2017, 13:46:40
Not sure if swaps are still happening but I have a gold 60 top and would love a gold winkeyless or HHKB top.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 16 May 2017, 00:10:41
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 16 May 2017, 00:12:16
Sorry, I haven't read all the posts here. Do I need PCB mounted switches for this keyboard or plate mounted?
Dependent on your PCB
I'd get PCB mounted just to be safe. You can clip the legs off if you end up needing plate mounted
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 16 May 2017, 00:17:12
Sorry, I haven't read all the posts here. Do I need PCB mounted switches for this keyboard or plate mounted?
Dependent on your PCB
I'd get PCB mounted just to be safe. You can clip the legs off if you end up needing plate mounted
I bought the PCB that's been offered with this GB? Any recommendations - clicky and tactile is my preference?
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Tue, 16 May 2017, 06:41:16
Sorry, I haven't read all the posts here. Do I need PCB mounted switches for this keyboard or plate mounted?
Dependent on your PCB
I'd get PCB mounted just to be safe. You can clip the legs off if you end up needing plate mounted
I bought the PCB that's been offered with this GB? Any recommendations - clicky and tactile is my preference?
PCB is a B.face. Just get the PCB mount ones. The B.face will have holes for PCB mount legs even if you plate mount them.
PCB mount switches in a plate are the best = no wiggle.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 May 2017, 13:11:51
I asked the factory to assemble a couple cases just so I know everything would work. The weight wasn't able to be screwed in. The issue is the weight through hole, which thankfully can just be expanded easily (it was made with R1.26, being changed to R1.55).
Quote
[3:25:28 PM] Factory: anyway,all production will be finished this week
[3:25:41 PM] Anthony: by Friday?
[3:54:02 PM] Factory: they probably finished on Friday or Saturday
[4:40:58 PM] Anthony: hopefully you can ship next Monday, please let me know
[4:57:13 PM] Factory: ok
Going to put a pause on shipping invoices until the shipment is out the country so it can't go back.
The adventure continues! :'(
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 16 May 2017, 13:17:22
No point dodging around this:
I asked the factory to assemble a couple cases just so I know everything would work. The weight wasn't able to be screwed in. The issue is the weight through hole, which thankfully can just be expanded easily (it was made with R1.26, being changed to R1.55).Quote[3:25:28 PM] Factory: anyway,all production will be finished this week
[3:25:41 PM] Anthony: by Friday?
[3:54:02 PM] Factory: they probably finished on Friday or Saturday
[4:40:58 PM] Anthony: hopefully you can ship next Monday, please let me know
[4:57:13 PM] Factory: ok
Going to put a pause on shipping invoices until the shipment is out the country so it can't go back.
The adventure continues! :'(
Thanks for the constant and honest updates. At least for me, I'm not bothered all that much by delays. I have a keyboard (or 9) that I like typing on and use daily. This will be an awesome board and I think we'd all like it done right more than done fast. Your communication is awesome and as long as we know what's up... This is going to be a freaking sweet board when all is said and done- 100% confidence here that you'll get it all right.
Slightly related side note- now that everyone has more time to think about their boards.... I'm looking to swap a grey HHKB top for a grey (or other color- I'm ok with two-tone!) winkeyless top. Anyone interested, please PM me. Thanks!
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 16 May 2017, 13:47:34
No point dodging around this:
I asked the factory to assemble a couple cases just so I know everything would work. The weight wasn't able to be screwed in. The issue is the weight through hole, which thankfully can just be expanded easily (it was made with R1.26, being changed to R1.55).Quote[3:25:28 PM] Factory: anyway,all production will be finished this week
[3:25:41 PM] Anthony: by Friday?
[3:54:02 PM] Factory: they probably finished on Friday or Saturday
[4:40:58 PM] Anthony: hopefully you can ship next Monday, please let me know
[4:57:13 PM] Factory: ok
Going to put a pause on shipping invoices until the shipment is out the country so it can't go back.
The adventure continues! :'(
So they should ship next week?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 May 2017, 14:05:24
So they should ship next week?
Keyword here is should. I don't see why they wouldn't on Monday, but I feel like that's the hundredth time I've said that.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 16 May 2017, 14:56:49
Thanks for the constant and honest updates. At least for me, I'm not bothered all that much by delays.
This. If it wasn't for the truthful and consistent updates, I'm sure some faith would waiver. Although, as communication has been on point, I haven't had a single concern throughout this whole process :thumb:
Post by: Malenky on Tue, 16 May 2017, 17:31:28
Post by: Unforgivable on Mon, 22 May 2017, 08:12:06
Still hyped!
Post by: ramnes on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:44:41
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:59:24
Did you go with the same factory than 27? :))
I could be wrong, but I thought a while back he said he was going with the place RAMA uses.
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:05:21
Did you go with the same factory than 27? :))
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:05:57
Did you go with the same factory than 27? :))
I could be wrong, but I thought a while back he said he was going with the place RAMA uses.
*Passed up on
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:14:06
Post by: Khers on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:21:55
thought these were 3d printed ?Nah, injection molded
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 23 May 2017, 10:31:30
Post by: Khers on Wed, 24 May 2017, 09:40:29
Any update about shipping?What he said
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 24 May 2017, 10:21:03
Any update about shipping?What he said
Did he say this Monday? He meant next Monday! :p
Just teasing! :p
Post by: poolside on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:02:53
Post by: P1kas on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:20:59
What kind of finish will be used on the brass plates?
Sand blasted weights. There are pictures a few pages back
Post by: poolside on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:36:01
What kind of finish will be used on the brass plates?
Sand blasted weights. There are pictures a few pages back
Sandblasted weights, yes, but I meant the switch plates.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 24 May 2017, 11:54:37
You're not doing anyone any favors just leaving us in the dark.
(https://i.imgur.com/uol1uJy.png)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:02:03
It's worth noting this so you're aware of my state: I was at the arena attack on Monday and the emotions of it all are catching up. If I'm not communicating very well, it's because my head is all over the place. If I'm modding switches because it's therapeutic, then I will be.
The brass switch plates will be sand blasted. No other finish (brushed, polished, etc) have a more consistent finish than sand blasting.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:07:23
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:08:59
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:21:02
No update yet. I'll post here when I know something.
It's worth noting this so you're aware of my state: I was at the arena attack on Monday and the emotions of it all are catching up. If I'm not communicating very well, it's because my head is all over the place. If I'm modding switches because it's therapeutic, then I will be.
The brass switch plates will be sand blasted. No other finish (brushed, polished, etc) have a more consistent finish than sand blasting.
Three things.
First, I'm glad you're OK.
Second, no update is still an update you can give previously. Especially since you were hoping it would have shipped on Monday. Just let us know. Silence is what bugs people.
Third, I got banned on keyboardcommunity slack loooong long ago, not lurking there and I can share screenshots of anything posted there.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:35:49
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:47:34
I'm asking for an update a week after an expected ship date when you said yourself you'd hope they would be shipping by Monday because they expected production to be finished Friday.
Don't try and say you don't have any responsibility now. You do. You're the person running the GB.
When you're still waiting for them to be shipped, just let us know. That still means they haven't run into any more issues and we can hope to see shipping in the next day or so.
When you don't respond at all people get worried.
Lots of people have put lots of money into this GB, and are entitled to updates "every couple of days" if they want them.
Post by: fendent on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:56:02
I'm not asking for an update every couple of days.
I'm asking for an update a week after an expected ship date when you said yourself you'd hope they would be shipping by Monday because they expected production to be finished Friday.
Don't try and say you don't have any responsibility now. You do. You're the person running the GB.
When you're still waiting for them to be shipped, just let us know. That still means they haven't run into any more issues and we can hope to see shipping in the next day or so.
When you don't respond at all people get worried.
Lots of people have put lots of money into this GB, and are entitled to updates "every couple of days" if they want them.
Maybe chill considering some extenuating circumstances here.
Post by: doom2 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 12:58:21
Quote
entitled to updates
Lol.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:00:51
Please have some compassion and understand that logging on to Skype on Monday to speak to a contact in a Chinese factory was not first priority.
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:13:10
I'm not asking for an update every couple of days.
I'm asking for an update a week after an expected ship date when you said yourself you'd hope they would be shipping by Monday because they expected production to be finished Friday.
Don't try and say you don't have any responsibility now. You do. You're the person running the GB.
100% Agreed.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:16:36
entitled to updates
you're not entitled to anything, complaining never sped up a GB
have some empathy for once in your life.
caveat emptor
Xondat, chill out, take your time.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:18:08
Quoteentitled to updates
Lol.
Are people that have floated hundreds of dollars to support someone's project not entitled to know its status..? Don't think anyone's being unreasonable.
People can be sensitive toward Xondat, and he can still say "no updates yet, I'll let everyone know." Use some common sense and everyone will be happy.
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:18:18
i'm from new york and whenever a plane flies over everyone in the room gets nervous.
lol what
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 May 2017, 13:39:16
Personal note: it's considerate to provide updates on group buys if there are changes in the schedule, and people who've submitted payments have the right to ask for updates. It should of course be done in a polite and reasonable manner (we've probably all seen people who start demanding things at the slight signs of trouble).
Post by: Khers on Mon, 29 May 2017, 08:22:19
Post by: xondat on Mon, 29 May 2017, 08:32:01
One week has passed since the proposed shipping date. Are they on their way yet? If not, why are they not?
Not that I know of. I have no idea why, haven't had any communication due to the Dragon Boat Festival holiday that is Sat-Tue.
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 29 May 2017, 08:34:28
Here's hoping for some good news by the end of the week then. 😁One week has passed since the proposed shipping date. Are they on their way yet? If not, why are they not?
Not that I know of. I have no idea why, haven't had any communication due to the Dragon Boat Festival holiday that is Sat-Tue.
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Post by: Khers on Mon, 29 May 2017, 08:41:30
Thanks for the update! Let's hope they get back to you on Wednesday then :thumb:One week has passed since the proposed shipping date. Are they on their way yet? If not, why are they not?
Not that I know of. I have no idea why, haven't had any communication due to the Dragon Boat Festival holiday that is Sat-Tue.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 29 May 2017, 18:55:40
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:33:26
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:08:58
I also got a random picture of a mismatched case with a weight in from when they test fit stuff.
[redacted]
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:11:53
For some stupid reason, the way they asked me to pay months ago isn't valid so they have to refund it and I send it a different way. I am currently waiting for that refund. Something to do with "so long production time through Alibaba". Yeah, I'm not sure either.Bummed about another delay, but on the plus side the board looks damn good.
I also got a random picture of a mismatched case with a weight in from when they test fit stuff.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ihWzqut.jpg)
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Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 02 June 2017, 17:42:24
Im patient and generally confident in your work so I really don't mind delays much.
Having something delayed for the sake of fixing production issues will translate into a more polished product which is all that matters imo. =)
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 02 June 2017, 18:01:35
Also- still REALLY hoping to swap a gray HHKB top for a Winkeyless. Would sweeten the deal in any way possible if that helps. $20 Paypal to help with your soon to come shipping invoice, perhaps? :thumb:
Post by: MMKB on Fri, 02 June 2017, 18:45:37
For some stupid reason, the way they asked me to pay months ago isn't valid so they have to refund it and I send it a different way. I am currently waiting for that refund. Something to do with "so long production time through Alibaba". Yeah, I'm not sure either.
I also got a random picture of a mismatched case with a weight in from when they test fit stuff.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ihWzqut.jpg)
Looking at that weight, it could totally be my everyday carry between home and work.
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 03 June 2017, 03:46:50
For some stupid reason, the way they asked me to pay months ago isn't valid so they have to refund it and I send it a different way. I am currently waiting for that refund. Something to do with "so long production time through Alibaba". Yeah, I'm not sure either.
I also got a random picture of a mismatched case with a weight in from when they test fit stuff.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ihWzqut.jpg)
thanks for sharing the update sir, sorry you are suffering these delays form the factory, all the hard work is super appreciated
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 07 June 2017, 09:34:57
For those of us that have not been invoiced for shipping, when is that going to be taking place?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 June 2017, 10:06:26
Post by: NolaSwag on Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:54:59
I have a tracking number, but it doesn't work. According to the manu who talked to the courier, the tracking will work once it reaches the Netherlands, which should be any day now as its 6-8 days (and was picked up Friday). I'm just waiting around for proof that they're on the way.Hell yea! The home stretch boys
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:56:27
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Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:05:48
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:10:58
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:16:19
So insanely excited to build this bad boy. How long do you have planned to ship them all out to participants?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:35:52
How long do you have planned to ship them all out to participants?
I'm planning to get the first 4 (to test packaging) out the day after I receive the shipment, they'll arrive next day, and hopefully if all is good I can start sending more out. So in something easier to understand:
- Day 1 - receive shipment, QC begins
- Day 2 - 4 UK boards out, QC continues
- Day 3 - 4 UK boards received and approved, QC continues
- Day 4 - All other boards start going out
Obviously it's hard to say how many can be shipped a day, but I'll have 2 others helping me QC the boards (each part will be checked 4 times) and perhaps helping make packing quicker (getting boxes/foam wrap ready). I'm planning on seeing each part twice, assembling the boards, packaging them, and printing labels for every single board. Should be a fun learning curve.
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 07 June 2017, 13:42:59
How long do you have planned to ship them all out to participants?
I'm planning to get the first 4 (to test packaging) out the day after I receive the shipment, they'll arrive next day, and hopefully if all is good I can start sending more out. So in something easier to understand:If the packaging isn't approved, then I'll be sorting that as quickly as I can, but I do have custom double walled boxes + hundreds of metres of foam wrap on the way.
- Day 1 - receive shipment, QC begins
- Day 2 - 4 UK boards out, QC continues
- Day 3 - 4 UK boards received and approved, QC continues
- Day 4 - All other boards start going out
Obviously it's hard to say how many can be shipped a day, but I'll have 2 others helping me QC the boards (each part will be checked 4 times) and perhaps helping make packing quicker (getting boxes/foam wrap ready). I'm planning on seeing each part twice, assembling the boards, packaging them, and printing labels for every single board. Should be a fun learning curve.
Thanks for the very very detailed response
From selling artisans I can say that the packing step takes a lot longer than you expect. Especially when there are several options/component combos needed. Good luck man.
Keep up the awesome work Xondat, so close to the end<3
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 June 2017, 05:58:38
Post by: joey on Thu, 08 June 2017, 06:01:17
Post by: wodan on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:19:14
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:29:12
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Post by: Malenky on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:29:44
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 08 June 2017, 07:40:58
Post by: fendent on Thu, 08 June 2017, 08:16:30
Not even in the buy and I'm hyped to see these!
This suspense is better than any Hitchcock flick!
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 08 June 2017, 15:20:54
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DCDKFp3.jpg)
:))
great news man, im so happy for you, and not surprisingly for my future self as well
Post by: senter on Thu, 08 June 2017, 21:30:40
Post by: vegs on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:30:31
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:45:41
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:03:58
Post by: Fictiouz on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:10:37
13 weights didn't pass QC at the factory; they now have been redone and will ship tomorrow. I do not have a list of which weights they are but hopefully will arrive shortly after the main shipment.Will this delay shipping or will you proceed with shipping what you can during the lead time for these 13 weights?
Edit: Though I assume they will most likely arrive before QC has finished.
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Post by: megaforce on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:26:04
Post by: oluigenuma on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:37:41
Post by: smittysteve on Fri, 09 June 2017, 14:58:24
Tease us with some photos xondat pls
I love this degenerate community. Send pics of nude cases. Show us the butts of keycaps. Let's all meet up and touch each other's switches. :eek:
But, yeah... I'm right there salivating with you and can't wait to see pics of these bad boys when they land - hopefully Monday!! :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 June 2017, 17:00:20
Will this delay shipping or will you proceed with shipping what you can during the lead time for these 13 weights?
Edit: Though I assume they will most likely arrive before QC has finished.
Once I get the main shipment, I'll be checking the parts required for the UK people, and after they're all packaged and ready to go, I'll start QC on the rest of the parts. If someones weight is missing, their order will be put to the side and go on hold whilst I wait for the shipment of 13 weights.
Tease us with some photos xondat pls
Don't have any as of yet, but when I get the shipment, I'll post a few here. If you want constant spam of pictures, make sure to follow my Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/noxaryco/) as I'll be posting every combination possible + all builds/random packing pictures etc as I go along.
So, you do not happen to have any left-overs? :) Anyone not happy with what they are going to get, I am here to gladly take it.
None at all. If people go quiet on the shipping form for too long, I may sell their order, but only if they've ignored me several times. Don't bet on that though.
Post by: JulienC on Fri, 09 June 2017, 20:31:59
So, you do not happen to have any left-overs? :) Anyone not happy with what they are going to get, I am here to gladly take it.
None at all. If people go quiet on the shipping form for too long, I may sell their order, but only if they've ignored me several times. Don't bet on that though.
Xondat I think you forgot me :p, as we discussed last month via PM, I would like to sell my spot.
Post by: gnmar2723 on Fri, 09 June 2017, 20:44:38
So, you do not happen to have any left-overs? :) Anyone not happy with what they are going to get, I am here to gladly take it.
None at all. If people go quiet on the shipping form for too long, I may sell their order, but only if they've ignored me several times. Don't bet on that though.
Xondat I think you forgot me :p, as we discussed last month via PM, I would like to sell my spot.
mmmm lemme get that spot ;)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 10 June 2017, 05:36:24
Post by: xondat on Sat, 10 June 2017, 13:55:53
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 10 June 2017, 14:13:42
And the follow up post.
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
What all is available?
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sat, 10 June 2017, 15:30:58
And the follow up post.
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
I'd like to see you do this raffle style so everyone has a chance at getting them.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 10 June 2017, 15:40:02
I'd like to see you do this raffle style so everyone has a chance at getting them.
Won't happen, not gonna waste my time with that.
What all is available?
Wait and see ;)
Post by: gnmar2723 on Sat, 10 June 2017, 16:33:08
I'd like to see you do this raffle style so everyone has a chance at getting them.Won't happen, not gonna waste my time with that.
I'll break my F5 key then :D
Post by: poolside on Sat, 10 June 2017, 17:22:10
And the follow up post.
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
Is there a stainless steel plate with one of these two orders?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 11 June 2017, 07:50:41
And the follow up post.
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
Is there a stainless steel plate with one of these two orders?
I'm not looking to split them up just yet.
The extra 13 weights will be delivered on Wednesday, so will not affect anything.
P.S. 1 more sleep; it's like Christmas.
Post by: poolside on Sun, 11 June 2017, 14:44:30
And the follow up post.
2 spots will be listed for sale when I receive the parts. This is on Monday, so if you're interested, it probably is the last time you'll be able to get one in the buy.
Is there a stainless steel plate with one of these two orders?
I'm not looking to split them up just yet.
I was only considering buying an entire remaining order. I could therefore get a SS plate before the plate GB ships and offload my numerous alu plates more easily.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 June 2017, 05:44:09
Post by: laughatpain on Mon, 12 June 2017, 15:52:33
I would like the price difference in PP. We can compare invoices and subtract PCB/extra plate costs
Post by: poolside on Mon, 12 June 2017, 16:48:11
As delivery was expected today but the tracking still shows "collecting", I ran TNT who told me the package hasn't been collected from The Netherlands. This means that for some reason my factory have used a proxy without telling me for some reason. It doesn't make sense as the 13 separate weights are being delivered direct to me (with DHL), but the main shipment isn't. As of right now, I have no idea where the 16 items are which is beyond stupid.
I'll update as soon as it (hopefully) gets collected.
The last moments of this GB feel like the keyboards are making two steps forward then one backward ;D
Post by: ankailou on Mon, 12 June 2017, 17:12:43
Looking to trade my Purple HHKB top and bottom for a Black HHKB top and bottom. Weights would remain the same. Please PM me as I am working with xondat on swapping cases before he ships them out to reduce reshipping cost.
I would like the price difference in PP. We can compare invoices and subtract PCB/extra plate costs
PM'd
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 June 2017, 17:25:20
The last moments of this GB feel like the keyboards are making two steps forward then one backward ;D
We've definitely been moving closer every time we get a delay; sounds silly but its true. I think there has been a delay on every single possible part, I'll be both surprised (how can it go wrong again) and not (I'm used to it now) if there is more. I guess only I can **** up now :)).
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 12 June 2017, 18:06:53
As delivery was expected today but the tracking still shows "collecting", I ran TNT who told me the package hasn't been collected from The Netherlands. This means that for some reason my factory have used a proxy without telling me for some reason. It doesn't make sense as the 13 separate weights are being delivered direct to me (with DHL), but the main shipment isn't. As of right now, I have no idea where the 16 items are which is beyond stupid.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/loqSJ69.png)
I'll update as soon as it (hopefully) gets collected.
thanks for the great updates my man, doing an excellent job and im sur ethe good news will come any day now
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 12 June 2017, 20:23:53
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 June 2017, 08:01:30
Post by: pexon on Tue, 13 June 2017, 08:05:00
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 13 June 2017, 09:27:11
Post by: TLSC.wipeOut on Tue, 13 June 2017, 09:27:57
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:48:31
Post by: Fausuto on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:49:00
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Post by: Robotical on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:51:44
3 spots will be available on the day of arrival.
Ooo. This is good news.
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 13:48:38
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Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:00:47
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:30:21
Claiming those spots will be done by email, you'll format this way:Dat grey cable :)
SUBJECT:Code: [Select]X60 BUY SPOT __
BODY:Code: [Select]your paypal email address
your country
I'll then invoice you, you'll have a short time period to pay, I'll then have you fill in the shipping form and that's it. I'll publish the spot number + configs when the parts arrive.
For now, I'm able to show the cables that the 10 lucky people will get.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pP9uXop.jpg)
It's also worked out that the 13 weights will arrive tomorrow, so we'll be teased with those tomorrow. Expect pictures when they arrive :)
Post by: pexon on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:33:23
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:35:11
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Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:35:25
which one? :))All of them :) I choose a grey case.
Post by: Robotical on Tue, 13 June 2017, 15:38:10
Claiming those spots will be done by email, you'll format this way:
SUBJECT:Code: [Select]X60 BUY SPOT __
BODY:Code: [Select]your paypal email address
your country
I'll then invoice you, you'll have a short time period to pay, I'll then have you fill in the shipping form and that's it. I'll publish the spot number + configs when the parts arrive.
For now, I'm able to show the cables that the 10 lucky people will get.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pP9uXop.jpg)
It's also worked out that the 13 weights will arrive tomorrow, so we'll be teased with those tomorrow. Expect pictures when they arrive :)
Will you publish the spot number/configs before we can submit an email so we can consider the options? Or is it going to be a case of once that information is posted, they are up for grabs immediately?
Post by: Fausuto on Tue, 13 June 2017, 16:36:34
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 June 2017, 16:55:24
Sorry if this is a noob question, but what email do I use for the open spots?
He'll post it when they come up.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 13 June 2017, 17:08:26
Will you publish the spot number/configs before we can submit an email so we can consider the options? Or is it going to be a case of once that information is posted, they are up for grabs immediately?
Sorry if this is a noob question, but what email do I use for the open spots?
You'll email support@noxary.co at a certain time. I'll list the spots/info etc with a time, so say I post at 1PM, I'll have the sale "open" at 3PM or something.
Post by: oluigenuma on Wed, 14 June 2017, 02:57:33
Post by: xondat on Wed, 14 June 2017, 05:18:44
First come first serve?
Yup.
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 14 June 2017, 08:41:56
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 14 June 2017, 14:32:07
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1L2XJ4J.png)
Looks like I might get the shipment Thursday. I can't remember if DHL deliver on Saturdays, but looks like the first 4 could arrive to them then. :p
so pumped
for possibly the first time glad i live in the UK also
Post by: xondat on Wed, 14 June 2017, 15:10:50
Post by: xondat on Thu, 15 June 2017, 03:31:24
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 15 June 2017, 03:33:53
Main shipment is here. Gonna shower and get going. I'll drop a pic here, but keep up to date with my Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/noxaryco/) for absolutely tonnes of pictures.Awww ****
Post by: pexon on Thu, 15 June 2017, 05:36:53
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 15 June 2017, 05:38:23
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Post by: cicada on Thu, 15 June 2017, 08:40:42
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Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:44:41
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:45:22
Please xondat, my body can only take so much 💦💦💦💦Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312287977151660042/324889530870267914/image.jpg)
Sorting going well. Going to open the weights next I think.
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Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 15 June 2017, 09:49:09
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:08:13
Post by: xondat on Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:31:00
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:50:01
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Post by: Fausuto on Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:19:01
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Post by: Define on Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:20:27
What does ANSI red mean? Is that the top plate or bottom base? Or probably the switch plate?
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Probably plate colour.
ANSI is a key layout so it's the plate.
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Post by: Fausuto on Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:49:51
Edit: nvm figured it out
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Post by: xondat on Thu, 15 June 2017, 14:34:48
Black 60% is still available, I'm going to start with the invoices I've been holding off (including the spot transfers).
First label has also been made, so that should arrive on Monday (along with 3 others).
Post by: oluigenuma on Thu, 15 June 2017, 14:55:06
Post by: oli on Thu, 15 June 2017, 17:10:16
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 15 June 2017, 17:12:06
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 15 June 2017, 21:14:45
I've got to be honest though, there are a lot that will fail my initial QC due to lack of care on their end. I'll be doing the first run tonight on the cases, and then hopefully I can discuss with the factory on how quick they can replace them.
:( Will you post close up pictures of what you are talking about?
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 16 June 2017, 04:38:53
I hope it will go smoothly for replacements.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 16 June 2017, 05:23:07
Any pics of the stainless steel weight?
Will post on Instagram later, going to get started in an hour or so
:( Will you post close up pictures of what you are talking about?
Yeah, QC and getting numbers will be happening today
Post by: Razer1987 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 06:28:23
I am sorry I didn't follow the thread since a few weeks but I filled the form and hasn't been invoiced for the shipping cost yet. Is that normal?
Ty
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 16 June 2017, 18:59:53
Hi,
I am sorry I didn't follow the thread since a few weeks but I filled the form and hasn't been invoiced for the shipping cost yet. Is that normal?
Ty
Nothing has been shipped out yet. Xondat is still doing QC
Post by: fendent on Sat, 17 June 2017, 02:00:30
Post by: xondat on Sat, 17 June 2017, 13:04:35
Post by: NolaSwag on Sat, 17 June 2017, 14:12:50
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 17 June 2017, 14:37:38
My flight the other night was delayed for a bum fuel pump and I missed the last connection for the night. I badly wanted to get home, but also didn't want to go comet in the sky.
Bit of a tortured metaphor there, sorry. However, I am still 100% confident in getting a sweet board from this buy. Xondat, kudos for standing strong and being transparent through the bumps. It's like kickstarter for me, I'm invested in the project financially and emotionally. I like to experience the whole process and it makes it that much better when I'm building this beauty up. Anticipation is half the fun, right...?
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 17 June 2017, 14:52:39
Hi all, this is just a short little update to keep you in the loop - I will be providing a much larger update when I have pieced everything together and have the solution.
My absolute priority is to deliver boards that are flawless. After receiving the shipment and, so far, after doing 2 rounds of quality control, I can report a good number of cases do not pass my inspections.
I will be shipping all cases that pass QC as soon as all 4 UK packages arrive, this is to confirm my packaging is doing its job. 1 has arrived and 3 will be delivered on Monday; the remaining cases will be picked up on through the week.
For now, I ask that you stay patient until the larger update comes. I will not be invoicing anyone for spot swapping (unless still requested), extra plates (this will still happen), or shipping (unless needed).
Thanks for the continued support.
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to hear the quality control wasn't up to par.
It's issue's like this that have always scared me away from attempting to run a GB. Glad to know you are on top of it though
Post by: Malenky on Sat, 17 June 2017, 17:38:13
(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 17 June 2017, 17:40:05
First UK X60 arrived today, got it built up! Here are some pictures:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Looks amazing!
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 17 June 2017, 18:12:38
First UK X60 arrived today, got it built up! Here are some pictures:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Youuuu lucky mofo :thumb: looks sick man!
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 17 June 2017, 18:34:07
looks okay
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 17 June 2017, 18:40:22
Post by: joshuaauger on Sat, 17 June 2017, 19:08:03
Post by: gaiden on Sun, 18 June 2017, 03:14:03
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 18 June 2017, 06:43:29
First UK X60 arrived today, got it built up! Here are some pictures:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Is the backlighting from the in switch led or smd on the pcb?
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 18 June 2017, 06:47:34
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 18 June 2017, 07:00:00
First UK X60 arrived today, got it built up! Here are some pictures:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Is the backlighting from the in switch led or smd on the pcb?
It's SMD from the Zeal 60. Two very subtly different shades of green, camera doesn't necessarily pick that up.
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:47:22
First UK X60 arrived today, got it built up! Here are some pictures:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XUcjmCE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/okjyq7a.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/b7RqAOo.jpg)
Is the backlighting from the in switch led or smd on the pcb?
It's SMD from the Zeal 60. Two very subtly different shades of green, camera doesn't necessarily pick that up.
The keyboard looks amazing.
Post by: Malenky on Sun, 18 June 2017, 10:48:51
I haven't decided what keycaps set to use on my silver wkl yet: sa pulse or dsa dolch. Any suggestions?
Dolch would look better out of those two I think.
Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 19 June 2017, 21:46:29
Post by: wodan on Tue, 20 June 2017, 02:22:36
Instead of waiting ~2 months for the full China round trip, I can see myself settle for a QC-failed case with damage on the inside of the case i.e. if those exist!
Post by: pexon on Tue, 20 June 2017, 04:16:58
Sneaky peaky. Will post images/ build log tonight when I finish in the workshop :)
Post by: P1kas on Tue, 20 June 2017, 04:24:26
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 20 June 2017, 04:26:13
Nice side shot. Can't wait to find out if mine is one of the ones that passed QC.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ncNTcXX.jpg)
Sneaky peaky. Will post images/ build log tonight when I finish in the workshop :)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 20 June 2017, 08:56:34
I haven't sent out any orders so that I can have as many cases to go over. All 4 UK orders arrived perfectly and you'll start seeing some pictures :) Thank you for being incredibly patient and understanding.
Post by: doom2 on Tue, 20 June 2017, 10:16:43
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 20 June 2017, 13:04:50
Just a very short update - I'll give the big update tonight or tomorrow as I now feel I have a full understanding on everything.
I haven't sent out any orders so that I can have as many cases to go over. All 4 UK orders arrived perfectly and you'll start seeing some pictures :) Thank you for being incredibly patient and understanding.
Finger crossed.
Post by: pexon on Tue, 20 June 2017, 17:06:39
http://imgur.com/a/pa2wO
;)
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 20 June 2017, 17:14:40
Damn.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cv8awhc.jpg)
http://imgur.com/a/pa2wO
;)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 20 June 2017, 17:50:42
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cv8awhc.jpg)
http://imgur.com/a/pa2wO
;)
Lookin awesome!
Can't wait to start building.
Btw, I shot you a mail pex... xD
No pressure, but super stoked to hear from you aswell =D
Post by: xondat on Wed, 21 June 2017, 11:41:30
Post by: axtran on Wed, 21 June 2017, 11:59:41
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 21 June 2017, 12:00:32
Edit: Emailed Xondat with a request to sell my spot. Details are the following:
CE Winkeyless - #7
1 x Extra CF plate
1 x PCB
Post by: Razer1987 on Wed, 21 June 2017, 12:26:51
I think i could live with these issues excepted the top scratches (the only one visible when using the keyboard?). If if my order could match that, then i will keep it.
Thanks !
Post by: MMKB on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:05:46
I'm willing to keep my silver HHKB-style X60 as long as they are functional and then we can work on a solution.
Post by: Define on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:08:18
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Post by: wodan on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:25:08
I am only concerned about damages visible on the assembled keyboard. Hoping to get at least one "defective" board :)
Post by: Unforgivable on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:31:07
Very unfortunate, but hopefully everything can get settled smoothly.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 21 June 2017, 13:55:30
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 22 June 2017, 03:36:32
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 22 June 2017, 12:47:14
Post by: henz on Thu, 22 June 2017, 14:45:49
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
What is up with this "if you haven't paid shipping yet you get a damaged case" you haven't even invoiced me yet.
Or am I misunderstanding anything?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 June 2017, 15:09:30
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 15:36:30
Spot-48-
Gold HHKB
Plates - ANSI - Gold
PCB
Spot-74-
Dark Grey HHKB
Plates - ANSI - Red/Stainless Steel
PCB
Spot-96-
Dark Blue HHKB
Plates - ANSI - Black/Silver/Dark Blue/
Please also refund my 3x shipping payments today! Thank you! <3
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 June 2017, 15:40:14
Regarding spot selling
I'm still happy to allow people to sell their spot through me. I will presume that anyone buying a spot after this post has read it, and they fully understand what they're getting into. If you'd like to sell your spot, please email me @ support@noxary.co and include as much information about your slot just to make things easier. I'll then list it here and allow people to email me if they want to buy it.
Shipping payments will be refunded at the same time as the spot to keep it simple.
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 15:41:10
Regarding spot selling
I'm still happy to allow people to sell their spot through me. I will presume that anyone buying a spot after this post has read it, and they fully understand what they're getting into. If you'd like to sell your spot, please email me @ support@noxary.co and include as much information about your slot just to make things easier. I'll then list it here and allow people to email me if they want to buy it.
Shipping payments will be refunded at the same time as the spot to keep it simple.
Whoops, my mistake. I'll send an email. Thanks!
Regarding shipping refunds - that doesn't make too much sense to me since nothing is gonna get shipped. Could you please at least refund mine? (I paid 3 seperate shipping invoices). I'd be able to use the funds for current things.
Post by: loud_asian on Thu, 22 June 2017, 16:54:48
- Carbon 5/10
- HHKB Black
- 2x ANSI Carbon Fiber Plates
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:05:46
Regarding spot selling
I'm still happy to allow people to sell their spot through me. I will presume that anyone buying a spot after this post has read it, and they fully understand what they're getting into. If you'd like to sell your spot, please email me @ support@noxary.co and include as much information about your slot just to make things easier. I'll then list it here and allow people to email me if they want to buy it.
Shipping payments will be refunded at the same time as the spot to keep it simple.
Whoops, my mistake. I'll send an email. Thanks!
Regarding shipping refunds - that doesn't make too much sense to me since nothing is gonna get shipped. Could you please at least refund mine? (I paid 3 seperate shipping invoices). I'd be able to use the funds for current things.
Bumping this up again, regarding getting a refund on my 3x shipping payments.
I'd honestly rather have my 3x shipping payments refunded now, versus waiting a while for my spots to sell and getting it, please!
I'm sure others would agree with me.
Thank you! (:
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:26:50
Post by: FingerSuspect on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:30:38
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:37:20
Going to put a hold on swaps for now whilst I sort everything out. If you've emailed me already, don't worry, I'll list your spot. A few people are putting deadlines to when I should refund them - don't. It's only when someone buys your spot that it's possible to refund.
I'm not sure if this is directed towards me, but for now I only asked for the 3x shipping payments I made to be refunded.
In my opinion, there's no reason why my shipping payments should be held hostage, when I'm not accepting the boards. It just doesn't make any sense. It's not tied to the original invoices/costs for the 3x X60's I paid for.
Just my two cents on the matter.
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:39:17
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
His QC would be worse than your toilet seat if he shipped out damaged boards. The **** QC came from the factory. You can be irate, but its not Xondat's fault.
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:39:40
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
lmao
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:42:30
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Xondat received the boards like that and is trying to rectify the situation no need to jump down his throat. His QC is fine and that is why he is addressing this issue and trying to document all the damage. The QC issue was due to the manufacturer. He couldn't have seen this coming until now.
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 22 June 2017, 17:48:06
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Actually... HIS qc is really good. Hence not sending out crappy boards.
Post by: FingerSuspect on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:01:07
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Actually... HIS qc is really good. Hence not sending out crappy boards.
nah he woulda had the factory send pics of everyboard if QC was good.
you're not even considering his message to customers saying don't message me rn. That's pathetic.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:03:58
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Actually... HIS qc is really good. Hence not sending out crappy boards.
nah he woulda had the factory send pics of everyboard if QC was good.
you're not even considering his message to customers saying don't message me rn. That's pathetic.
The factory did send him photos.
If everyone swamps him with messages, how is he supposed to try to focus on fixing the issues and **** if he has to reply to every damn message. He isn't asking for much but just a little more time to try to get it sorted.
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:06:07
Anyone messaging me asking for a perfect board is wasting their time. It is too early for messages in the first place, but I will be sorting through them in the order you paid your shipping invoice. If you haven't paid yet, then you're going to end up with the more damaged ones if you choose that route.
I will have a spreadsheet of all the cases with detailed pictures and information on each case. You will be able to see "your" case before you chose which route to go.
Also the main thing seems to be that people want a case with no defects on the top piece - consider 100% have those hooking points, I can only presume people mean no scratches. This is difficult as over 75 have been affected. Not everyone can get a good condition board from the existing boards.
are you ****ing kidding ? Telling irate customers to not message you? everyone should be do chargebacks at this point, your QC is worse than my toilet seat
Actually... HIS qc is really good. Hence not sending out crappy boards.
nah he woulda had the factory send pics of everyboard if QC was good.
you're not even considering his message to customers saying don't message me rn. That's pathetic.
In the not so recent past some boards got sent out regardless of what they looked like (not this GB). Also, I am sure the factory would not willingly take 100+ pictures of each board before they were packed. Realistically, there would need to be at least 2 pics of each board so more like 200+. Capturing the small blemishes would be impossible. Lastly, I would rather someone tell me to not send them an email right now rather than just not ever receive a reply. He has said that he is working through everything and will update as soon as he know the answer etc.
EDIT: Photos were sent but it would still be hard to capture all of the small blemishes.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:10:12
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:11:36
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 18:21:55
Spot 21 - $510 + shipping
- Carbon 07/10
- Winkeyless Black
- 2 x ANSI Carbon Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 26 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Gold
- ANSI Gold Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 27 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 28 - $500 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Blue
- ANSI Black, ANSI Silver, ANSI Dark Blue Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 41 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 68 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Black
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 78 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- 60% Black
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 83 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- Winkeyless Black
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
I think that's all of them for now.
Just a heads up, the Blue HHKB did not come with a PCB, so the price should be lower. ($459.36 with fees included, but excluding shipping), not $500.
Can you please adjust it here? Hopefully someone jumps on it. :(
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 22 June 2017, 19:19:34
Spot 21 - $510 + shipping
- Carbon 07/10
- Winkeyless Black
- 2 x ANSI Carbon Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 26 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Gold
- ANSI Gold Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 27 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 28 - $500 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Blue
- ANSI Black, ANSI Silver, ANSI Dark Blue Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 41 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 68 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Black
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 78 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- 60% Black
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 83 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- Winkeyless Black
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
I think that's all of them for now.
Just a heads up, the Blue HHKB did not come with a PCB, so the price should be lower. ($459.36 with fees included, but excluding shipping), not $500.
Can you please adjust it here? Hopefully someone jumps on it. :(
In your previous post you referred to it as:
"Spot-96-
Dark Blue HHKB
Plates - ANSI - Black/Silver/Dark Blue/"
Here it is referred in a different spot.
Post by: Unforgivable on Thu, 22 June 2017, 19:31:03
Spot 21 - $510 + shipping
- Carbon 07/10
- Winkeyless Black
- 2 x ANSI Carbon Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 26 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Gold
- ANSI Gold Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 27 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 28 - $500 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Blue
- ANSI Black, ANSI Silver, ANSI Dark Blue Plates
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 41 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 68 - $410 + shipping
- Standard
- HHKB Dark Gray
- ANSI Black
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 78 - $430 + shipping
- Standard
- 60% Black
- ANSI Red + ANSI Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
Spot 83 - $410 + shippingPending
- Standard
- Winkeyless Black
- Stainless Steel Plate
- Winkeyless b.face PCB
I think that's all of them for now.
Just a heads up, the Blue HHKB did not come with a PCB, so the price should be lower. ($459.36 with fees included, but excluding shipping), not $500.
Can you please adjust it here? Hopefully someone jumps on it. :(
In your previous post you referred to it as:
"Spot-96-
Dark Blue HHKB
Plates - ANSI - Black/Silver/Dark Blue/"
Here it is referred in a different spot.
I'm pretty sure it's one of my spots (1/3). I know because there were only 2x Blue boards, mine being the only HHKB version. Also due to the specific plates being offered.
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 22 June 2017, 20:37:40
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 June 2017, 20:58:23
What's up with people using smurf accounts stirring up drama? Seems to be happening quite a lot lately :confused:
Lots of people with accounts just to order from GBs. Mods are hawks on people with multiple accounts.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 22 June 2017, 20:59:01
This isn't the only GB that is effected by this sort of negativity, and frankly it is getting old. If you have constructive criticism, post it. If you are just going to make a pointless post with no bearing on the future of the GB, reddit is this way. (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:09:13
Post by: HannahPeach on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:18:25
caveat emptor
wow old photo,
much latin wow,
super education
Post by: HannahPeach on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:20:58
caveat emptor
IDK where I was gonna go with this, I just like that you're classy.
holy **** meant to modify, sorry!
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:30:06
i'm not original
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:34:56
I mean, we're creating something amazing together, we're creating our dream boards.
Why we have to put something bad to a man who have been sacrificing him self to make the keyboards for us?
Guys, Please be nice and let solve the problem together.
Post by: ArchDill on Thu, 22 June 2017, 21:46:58
Post by: catweewee on Thu, 22 June 2017, 23:24:44
When it is all said and done.. People are gonna have some bad ass, rare, boards that will never be made again. A lot of people will be jealous and wish they had bought a spot.
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 23 June 2017, 02:23:03
You're doing a great job running the buy and can't wait to see my board in the flesh :)
Post by: axtran on Fri, 23 June 2017, 10:58:34
Post by: fendent on Sat, 24 June 2017, 09:35:43
Post by: joey on Sat, 24 June 2017, 14:06:34
More
I warned you..
More
(http://i.imgur.com/pQc9pcd.jpg)
Post by: itskuroi on Sat, 24 June 2017, 14:07:10
If you wanna see a terrible picture of my completed x60, click 'more'MoreI warned you..MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pQc9pcd.jpg)
whoa! First person I've seen type with no keycaps!
Post by: joey on Sat, 24 June 2017, 14:10:18
I've been typing without caps so long, the ends of my fingers match MX stems.If you wanna see a terrible picture of my completed x60, click 'more'MoreI warned you..MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/pQc9pcd.jpg)
whoa! First person I've seen type with no keycaps!
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 24 June 2017, 14:55:53
What's the cutoff date for spots that have not been able to sell?
Post by: xondat on Sat, 24 June 2017, 18:01:59
When I get back, I'll issue the relevant refunds, and also start cataloguing every case so we can go forward as smoothly as possible. Right now, I'm thinking that reanodizing will be the best middle grounds of fixing the issues. The only thing is that there is currently no source of the money needed to accomplish this. I'll be going to local places and getting quotes to figure out how much money I need to pull from no where.
Is there a set date to ship out the boards?
What's the cutoff date for spots that have not been able to sell?
If people want to go with the cases in their current condition, they'll start going out after I've finished cataloguing and have a proper plan. I don't have a set date, but I can't see that taking more than a week (from the 3rd).
Probably the same date I start to ship boards out. Obviously don't want to be messing with spots when I'm shipping.
I'm still happy to reinvoice people if you'd like the PayPal buyers protection. If it's over 6 months, then you'll lose the fees, but still happy to reinvoice. If it's under 6 months, then it's a pretty simple thing (copy invoice, you pay, I refund).
If you'd like this, please take your order number (the row your order is on) and send an email to support@noxary.co with the subject as "X60 REINVOICE __"; include your geekhack name and PayPal email address in the body.
The 4 UK boards have been built and they all seem to like them (which is good, I suppose ;)).
(http://i.imgur.com/ANcZK6O.jpg)
malenky's HHKB with GMK 9009
(http://i.imgur.com/cv8awhc.jpg)
pexon's HHKB with GMK Honeywell
bunnylake's WKL with GMK Hyperfuse (better pictures SoonTM)
(http://i.imgur.com/pQc9pcd.jpg)
joey's WKL with no caps :'(
I think that's all. I'll be around for the next 30 minutes or so, so post any questions you think need to be answered.
Post by: doom2 on Sat, 24 June 2017, 18:22:18
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Post by: YH YOON on Sun, 25 June 2017, 02:21:33
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 June 2017, 02:38:06
Post by: doom2 on Mon, 26 June 2017, 07:41:25
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 26 June 2017, 09:40:28
Hey all, loud_asian has decided to dispute which means my funds (which majority is my money) is locked up until I get back from my trip and can fully figure everything out. I don't think his spot was paid for yet so it'll involve some juggling around so everyone will have to stay patient. I'll be sorting it when I'm back. Thanks.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-dispute-resolution
The funds for that particular transaction is locked. The rest is not.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 26 June 2017, 11:26:05
Hey all, loud_asian has decided to dispute which means my funds (which majority is my money) is locked up until I get back from my trip and can fully figure everything out. I don't think his spot was paid for yet so it'll involve some juggling around so everyone will have to stay patient. I'll be sorting it when I'm back. Thanks.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-dispute-resolution
The funds for that particular transaction is locked. The rest is not.
This isn't always true.
Post by: doom2 on Mon, 26 June 2017, 11:32:08
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 26 June 2017, 12:59:49
Hey all, loud_asian has decided to dispute which means my funds (which majority is my money) is locked up until I get back from my trip and can fully figure everything out. I don't think his spot was paid for yet so it'll involve some juggling around so everyone will have to stay patient. I'll be sorting it when I'm back. Thanks.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-dispute-resolution
The funds for that particular transaction is locked. The rest is not.
This isn't always true.
Except it is. To even have reserve levels place on you, you'd have to have unreasonable numbers of chargebacks, and a lot of traffic going in and out of your paypal account.
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:00:35
Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:01:17
Hey all, loud_asian has decided to dispute which means my funds (which majority is my money) is locked up until I get back from my trip and can fully figure everything out. I don't think his spot was paid for yet so it'll involve some juggling around so everyone will have to stay patient. I'll be sorting it when I'm back. Thanks.
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/seller-dispute-resolution
The funds for that particular transaction is locked. The rest is not.
This isn't always true.
Except it is. To even have reserve levels place on you, you'd have to have unreasonable numbers of chargebacks, and a lot of traffic going in and out of your paypal account.
You can quote their ToS all you want, but I can promise you that they do what they want when they want. I have had it happened to me, I know others that have it happened to them.
Post by: ArchDildo on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:18:01
Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:19:06
Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Post by: ArchDildo on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:20:46
By that i mean heavily active in CtlAlt slack.Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:21:44
By that i mean heavily active in CtlAlt slack.Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Why don't you stop hiding behind an alt.
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:24:03
Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Sucks for everyone else i guess.
Post by: ArchDildo on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:25:30
By that i mean heavily active in CtlAlt slack.Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Why don't you stop hiding behind an alt.
Im not, so mind your own business. Your also a heavily active CtrlAlt slack user. :))
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:26:58
By that i mean heavily active in CtlAlt slack.Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Why don't you stop hiding behind an alt.
Im not, so mind your own business. Your also a heavily active CtrlAlt slack user. :))
And?
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:27:57
Post by: ArchDill on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:31:50
By that i mean heavily active in CtlAlt slack.Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
I guess they were really really really lucky. The rest of you were really really really unlucky :(
And three of them just happen to be CtrlAlt members hmm :rolleyes:
Only bunny is a CTRL Alt member.
Why don't you stop hiding behind an alt.
Im not, so mind your own business. Your also a heavily active CtrlAlt slack user. :))
The name on this alt account has confirmed your age. At least this one is not racist like the last.
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:38:54
Also, how is it that all the UK boards were without defect but so many others were?
mine isnt without defects
mine has a massive anodising mark across the entire back
you can see it in the pics xondat posted of my board on instagram
also, and i dont follow this thread a ton, but the reason i and a couple of others had their boards shipped to start was so xondat could check his packaging was ok given some recent issues on another keyboard buy with packaging he was trying to do his due diligence and make sure it held up, starting locally whilst it was untested and even in the small amount ive read this thread i have seen xondat mention that several times and didnt see any complaints about it then
should we have all received perfect boards, and should all these issues above happened, i could see how this could be viewed by people
should all the boards have arrived perfectly to xondat, and he got these 4 orders out right away to check the packaging, all was good and he then sent the rest of the orders this conversation wouldn't be happening
also to note that the minor scratches aren't the only issue with these boards and the boards we received suffer from every other issue, and as above, mine has a particularly large anodising mark amongst other cosmetic blemishes
by isolating your statement i can see how it looks or how people want to portray xondats decision, but given the context he wasn't trying to do anything untoward, he got ours out right away as planned to check his packaging, whilst he was doing the other quality control, and indeed some of the issues he has listed were found because of the few of us that have received our boards so far
this situation sucks, it sucks for all of the buyers, it sucks for xondat, and if the factory make this right it sucks for them as well but xondat is trying his best to rectify this for people, he didnt **** these boards up, the factory did, and as leader of the GB, his current role is facilitating a discussion from us the buyers, to them the factory, to accurately portray the issues to the factory and start a conversation towards a resolution, and it seems that is currently happening
Post by: ArchDildo on Mon, 26 June 2017, 13:58:59
this situation sucks, it sucks for all of the buyers, it sucks for xondat, and if the factory make this right it sucks for them as well but xondat is trying his best to rectify this for people, he didnt **** these boards up, the factory did, and as leader of the GB, his current role is facilitating a discussion from us the buyers, to them the factory, to accurately portray the issues to the factory and start a conversation towards a resolution, and it seems that is currently happening
Yeah but he knowingly used the same factory as Mech27, he even got the contact info for the factory from him. Then he tries to deny that.
With that said, not really surprising if people choose to open a dispute at this point.
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 26 June 2017, 14:04:05
this situation sucks, it sucks for all of the buyers, it sucks for xondat, and if the factory make this right it sucks for them as well but xondat is trying his best to rectify this for people, he didnt **** these boards up, the factory did, and as leader of the GB, his current role is facilitating a discussion from us the buyers, to them the factory, to accurately portray the issues to the factory and start a conversation towards a resolution, and it seems that is currently happening
Yeah but he knowingly used the same factory as Mech27, he even got the contact info for the factory from him. Then he tries to deny that.
With that said, not really surprising if people choose to open a dispute at this point.
i dont know anything about what factory he used, or anything about the 27 buy other than i hear people saying it had issues so i cant comment on that, if that is the case it isnt ideal id imagine, but i dont know enough about what happened with the 27 to comment on any parallels between the two
i dont believe chargebacks are the best option for this though, its a newly discovered issue, which is currently trying to be resolved, and xondat i believe im correct in saying this has offered to reissue invoices so people can maintain being within the payment dispute window
the money has been paid to the factory, issuing chargebacks now takes the funds directly out of xondats pocket, something he has stated clearly he cannot afford, having access to his paypal frozen cant speed up a resolution of this buy for anyone, it can only hinder it for everyone else waiting and limit xondats options in trying to solve this very difficult situation
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Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 26 June 2017, 14:32:51
Please keep discussion on topic and related to the issues at hand. As someone involved in this GB, I understand the frustration. But issuing pp disputes is not the best way for this to get resolved. All you will do is negatively effect everyone else involved. Having spoke with Xondat many times over the months, and from his public posting, I am confident he will work this out for everyone the best he can with the tools at his disposal. We all just need to be patient.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 26 June 2017, 17:14:54
Two things need to be addressed:
1. It's easy to tell who is ****posting and who actually cares - you should've done your research. My cases finished production on the 16th of November. It was the weights (the design mainly) that took us further. 27's cases arrived on the 16th of January. Therefore my cases were done 2 months before his arrived. This means there was absolutely no way to judge quality.
2. The 4 UK boards were sent to people I highly trust. They weren't perfect (anodizing hook marks, dodgy anodizing), but this was before I knew how severe the lack of proper quality control by my factory was. I spoke to them all about the issues and they said it doesn't affect them. Malenky didn't even notice the anodizing hook marks on the top piece before I pointed them out to him which is slightly unfortunate but I want to be completely transparent on the quality, and that I want it to be flawless.
Regarding the Ctrl Alt/Keyboard Community thing, it was back in June last year I started learning design (including starting this project). Many people there were extremely helpful and generally put up with me whilst I asked all the questions I need to get to the point I could start this group buy. I had to chose people in the UK so that the delivery was next day, meaning I could get the shipping feedback ASAP and start sending to all participants. The reasons I chose Joey & Bunnylake was due to their constant support and just generally getting along very well. I also went with Pexon & Malenky for the same reasons, but on top of those, I met them at the UK 1.5 meet up, and they were both very excited about the project.
None of this needs to be said, but as I want to be completely open about the quality of the cases, it won't go missed.
Like I said before, when I get back, I'll be looking into local anodizing and then I'll figure funding for that out. I'll also be cataloging all the cases and sending out cases that people want.
:-*
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 26 June 2017, 17:22:38
:rolleyes:
Two things need to be addressed:
1. It's easy to tell who is ****posting and who actually cares - you should've done your research. My cases finished production on the 16th of November. It was the weights (the design mainly) that took us further. 27's cases arrived on the 16th of January. Therefore my cases were done 2 months before his arrived. This means there was absolutely no way to judge quality.
2. The 4 UK boards were sent to people I highly trust. They weren't perfect (anodizing hook marks, dodgy anodizing), but this was before I knew how severe the lack of proper quality control by my factory was. I spoke to them all about the issues and they said it doesn't affect them. Malenky didn't even notice the anodizing hook marks on the top piece before I pointed them out to him which is slightly unfortunate but I want to be completely transparent on the quality, and that I want it to be flawless.
Regarding the Ctrl Alt/Keyboard Community thing, it was back in June last year I started learning design (including starting this project). Many people there were extremely helpful and generally put up with me whilst I asked all the questions I need to get to the point I could start this group buy. I had to chose people in the UK so that the delivery was next day, meaning I could get the shipping feedback ASAP and start sending to all participants. The reasons I chose Joey & Bunnylake was due to their constant support and just generally getting along very well. I also went with Pexon & Malenky for the same reasons, but on top of those, I met them at the UK 1.5 meet up, and they were both very excited about the project.
None of this needs to be said, but as I want to be completely open about the quality of the cases, it won't go missed.
Like I said before, when I get back, I'll be looking into local anodizing and then I'll figure funding for that out. I'll also be cataloging all the cases and sending out cases that people want.
I'll end this on a nice note - today was great, went to the top of some hill and saw this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KdYzFtp.jpg)
:-*
have a great trip sir
Post by: doom2 on Mon, 26 June 2017, 18:36:38
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Post by: exanile_tabasco on Tue, 27 June 2017, 01:57:55
Hats off to the impatient moron who just couldn't wait a few days for things to pan out before opening a dispute
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 June 2017, 04:00:13
I get that xondat is going on trip but would be nice to just get an acknowledgement that he has read my PMs about changing shipping address. I don't mind the defects (perks of choosing silver, everything is slightly less apparent), I just want my board.
Hats off to the impatient moron who just couldn't wait a few days for things to pan out before opening a dispute
I don't read my PMs very often simply because it's not very organisable and I encourage people to email me regarding their order at support@noxary.co. If you could send an email over, that'd be great.
Speaking of impatient people, Unforgiveable has disputed all 3 of his orders of $1490. ****ing great. I understand it is a lot of money, but that's actually gone into shipping money for others spots so it's incredibly selfish and generally ****s everyone over.
;D
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 27 June 2017, 04:30:01
Right now, I'm thinking that reanodizing will be the best middle grounds of fixing the issues. The only thing is that there is currently no source of the money needed to accomplish this. I'll be going to local places and getting quotes to figure out how much money I need to pull from no where.
So the shop that produced them isn't going to pay for them to be re-anodized?
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:35:42
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:39:01
Right now, I'm thinking that reanodizing will be the best middle grounds of fixing the issues. The only thing is that there is currently no source of the money needed to accomplish this. I'll be going to local places and getting quotes to figure out how much money I need to pull from no where.
So the shop that produced them isn't going to pay for them to be re-anodized?
No. That would be extremely costly to ship them back to China just to re-ano them
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:45:02
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
To all angry children that throw tantrums ... you are not alone in this endeavour. Please think before you act so selfishly.
Post by: joey on Tue, 27 June 2017, 13:39:28
(http://i.imgur.com/CbWAk9t.jpg)
Post by: Jemaunji on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:07:50
Post by: thearchdill on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:37:52
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
If the 180 day paypal window is almost gone, its better to be safe than sorry at this point.
Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:43:34
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
If the 180 day paypal window is almost gone, its better to be safe than sorry at this point.
Dude... This is getting ridiculous.
ArchDildo.. That is stupid but blatantly taking my Reddit name is too far. Grow a pair and start using your own account.
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:49:06
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
If the 180 day paypal window is almost gone, its better to be safe than sorry at this point.
Another alt account lmao
10/10.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:51:15
I filled out a shipping form and was never invoiced. Are there still some people that haven't been invoiced for shipping because of the recent updates?
Correct, about 25%.
So the shop that produced them isn't going to pay for them to be re-anodized?
They've offered a small sum that clearly won't cover the costs for local anodizing and is quite insulting. We'll see what happens as it progresses. I'm taking advice from people that deal with Chinese factories all the time, so I feel I should be able to get a reasonable solution to it all.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:52:20
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
If the 180 day paypal window is almost gone, its better to be safe than sorry at this point.
I don't think most people understand that PP disputes are meant to be a last minute resort, when the seller or GB runner has gone AWOL or is clearly taking the money and running. Xon hasn't run anywhere, and has been clearly documenting the delays and problems, and is formulating a plan to address these issues. Opening a dispute at this point is just creating a massive PITA for everyone involved; why would you respond to delays by creating another setback?
Take a look around. There are 100 boards and at least a couple dozen participants awaiting those boards. Have some common courtesy, and if waiting a patiently waiting a while for a refund/resolution should push you to the brink of financial desperation, maybe you shouldn't be dropping $400 on a board yea?
also, alt accounts lmao
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Post by: Malenky on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:54:00
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:12:15
Issuing disputes at this point of the GB stage is extremely selfish and poor GB etiquette. There are 90+ other users in the same boat.
I'm not denying the GB has gone awry, but Xondat has been transparent about the glaring issues and is not running away from the problems.
This may be out of line, but please don't join GBs if you need to blow an entire paycheck on a keyboard.
If the 180 day paypal window is almost gone, its better to be safe than sorry at this point.
I don't think most people understand that PP disputes are meant to be a last minute resort, when the seller or GB runner has gone AWOL or is clearly taking the money and running. Xon hasn't run anywhere, and has been clearly documenting the delays and problems, and is formulating a plan to address these issues. Opening a dispute at this point is just creating a massive PITA for everyone involved; why would you respond to delays by creating another setback?
Take a look around. There are 100 boards and at least a couple dozen participants awaiting those boards. Have some common courtesy, and if waiting a patiently waiting a while for a refund/resolution should push you to the brink of financial desperation, maybe you shouldn't be dropping $400 on a board yea?
Given the history of some past buys on GH, i dont blame the buyers for disputing, people said oh dont worry you can trust Ivan, and look what happened. Each Individual should use their own judgement on the situation since its their money.
The thing is, you ****ing goon, 1) he has the boards (albeit not in good condition), 2) re-invoicing was offered, and 3) constant updates about the products/issue.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:19:41
Given the history of some past buys on GH, i dont blame the buyers for disputing, people said oh dont worry you can trust Ivan, and look what happened. Each Individual should use their own judgement on the situation since its their money.
why do you persist, mr anderson
i can see the headline now - "GH MOD BANS ANOTHER USER FOR NO APPARENT REASON (read: after ****posting with numerous alt accs)" if you have no actual personal interest in X60 can you take your behaviour elsewhere, it's already difficult enough to follow meaningful updates in this cluttered thread
frankly, it's insulting to hear the "it's my own money and I'll do what I want" argument. No it is not your money. It was your money that you have since entrusted to xondat in hopes that he will do good on his promise. And aside from delays outside of his control and factory's lack of QC, he is making good on his promises and keeping us informed. Opening a dispute in the middle of this only makes you look like an asswipe. Caveat emptor applies before you decide to commit to a GB, not when you're waist deep in it and the goods have already been produced.
continuing to make a fuss after the offer of re-invoicing is nothing more than throwing a childish tantrum
Post by: byker on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:35:51
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 27 June 2017, 17:12:28
Put caps on it:looks damn good manShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/CbWAk9t.jpg)
Post by: pvd on Thu, 29 June 2017, 21:53:45
My personal opinion is that a few scratches are no big deal. I think the keyboard will still look sick. Here's to hoping everything else goes smoothly.
Post by: wodan on Fri, 30 June 2017, 06:54:37
Post by: Fictiouz on Fri, 30 June 2017, 07:28:29
Have I missed the forum/information where to apply for a board with minor damages?Nope he has not done the documentation of each individual board yet. He will be starting off by going through the people who already payed shipping's boards. Then show the other boards and people can make a decision before he invoices them IIRC.
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:18:11
Post by: Fictiouz on Sun, 02 July 2017, 18:32:58
Just dropping in to say I've just got home so tomorrow I'll be starting up again. Just replying to emails right now.Good to hear. Have a good night and get some rest. Hope the trip went well!
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Post by: doom2 on Tue, 04 July 2017, 10:43:40
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Post by: xondat on Tue, 04 July 2017, 15:52:43
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:43:27
The end result was that reanodizing won't remove the imperfections as it's not one thing (the alloy, machining, handling, anodizing, etc) that add the imperfections - it's everything that leads up to it being in my hands. They said the current anodizing is "pretty good", and they wouldn't be able to improve it much due to the history of the parts.
They've offered to reanodize a couple just to see what happens, and I'm taking them up on that offer. I'll get a case with bad defects reanodized, along with a better one to see how both turn out. Their facilities and team seem great and I have no doubts that they'll do their best, but they sounded sincere when they said there isn't much point. I personally doubt that the reanodizing will change anything, but we'll wait and see.
This puts us on a path with no realistic fix (providing reanodizing doesn't work). The only other option at this point would be to start all over again, but we all know that just isn't possible.
As previously said, I'll be cataloging all the cases so I can rank them from best to worst. I'll then contact everyone, in the order they paid their shipping invoice, so that you can then choose your case from the catalogue and know exactly what you'll get.
Regarding spot selling - it's awkward. I still want to list them to help as much, but there are obviously going to be more sellers than buyers. I cannot keep the cases in the house any longer. It'll most likely get to the point where I'll send the case to you if it hasn't sold. It's unfortunate, but it's whats happened.
I'll get an updated list (and how to contact me regarding buying and selling spots) up later. Some spots did sell, but then a couple people charged me back and ate into that money so I now need to shuffle money around until everyone is happy. If a spot reads sold but you haven't got your money, stay patient please. If you've emailed me asking me to sell your spot, I'll list it, but don't bet on it selling.
And finally, I owe all the participants an apology. Every participant put their trust in me to deliver flawless cases, and I couldn't due to various elements. If I get another chance at designing and selling cases, then I'll make sure it is flawless. This time there were mistakes, and I ultimately take blame as I made all the decisions that led up to this point. I am truly sorry, and I hope you can forgive me.
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:49:41
I went to the local anodizing place yesterday and had a good talk with them about potentially reanodizing all the parts. I took a few sample parts for quotes and to show what sort of quality I want to improve on.
The end result was that reanodizing won't remove the imperfections as it's not one thing (the alloy, machining, handling, anodizing, etc) that add the imperfections - it's everything that leads up to it being in my hands. They said the current anodizing is "pretty good", and they wouldn't be able to improve it much due to the history of the parts.
They've offered to reanodize a couple just to see what happens, and I'm taking them up on that offer. I'll get a case with bad defects reanodized, along with a better one to see how both turn out. Their facilities and team seem great and I have no doubts that they'll do their best, but they sounded sincere when they said there isn't much point. I personally doubt that the reanodizing will change anything, but we'll wait and see.
This puts us on a path with no realistic fix (providing reanodizing doesn't work). The only other option at this point would be to start all over again, but we all know that just isn't possible.
As previously said, I'll be cataloging all the cases so I can rank them from best to worst. I'll then contact everyone, in the order they paid their shipping invoice, so that you can then choose your case from the catalogue and know exactly what you'll get.
Regarding spot selling - it's awkward. I still want to list them to help as much, but there are obviously going to be more sellers than buyers. I cannot keep the cases in the house any longer. It'll most likely get to the point where I'll send the case to you if it hasn't sold. It's unfortunate, but it's whats happened.
I'll get an updated list (and how to contact me regarding buying and selling spots) up later. Some spots did sell, but then a couple people charged me back and ate into that money so I now need to shuffle money around until everyone is happy. If a spot reads sold but you haven't got your money, stay patient please. If you've emailed me asking me to sell your spot, I'll list it, but don't bet on it selling.
And finally, I owe all the participants an apology. Every participant put their trust in me to deliver flawless cases, and I couldn't due to various elements. If I get another chance at designing and selling cases, then I'll make sure it is flawless. This time there were mistakes, and I ultimately take blame as I made all the decisions that led up to this point. I am truly sorry, and I hope you can forgive me.
Solid, honest, transparent update, Xondat. Much appreciated.
The only item mentioned previously that you didn't bring us up to date on here is the dialog with the manufacturer used for the boards. Are they talking with you? Is there any chance for parts to be remade through them?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:54:09
The only item mentioned previously that you didn't bring us up to date on here is the dialog with the manufacturer used for the boards. Are they talking with you? Is there any chance for parts to be remade through them?
I'm still talking to them but they're quick to blame anyone but themselves. They've also said they won't be able to produce anything of higher quality. If I do receive any sort of refund, then it'll be evenly distributed.
Post by: smittysteve on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:56:51
The only item mentioned previously that you didn't bring us up to date on here is the dialog with the manufacturer used for the boards. Are they talking with you? Is there any chance for parts to be remade through them?
I'm still talking to them but they're quick to blame anyone but themselves. They've also said they won't be able to produce anything of higher quality. If I do receive any sort of refund, then it'll be evenly distributed.
Ok, sounds good. Thanks.
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:12:00
I went to the local anodizing place yesterday and had a good talk with them about potentially reanodizing all the parts. I took a few sample parts for quotes and to show what sort of quality I want to improve on.
The end result was that reanodizing won't remove the imperfections as it's not one thing (the alloy, machining, handling, anodizing, etc) that add the imperfections - it's everything that leads up to it being in my hands. They said the current anodizing is "pretty good", and they wouldn't be able to improve it much due to the history of the parts.
They've offered to reanodize a couple just to see what happens, and I'm taking them up on that offer. I'll get a case with bad defects reanodized, along with a better one to see how both turn out. Their facilities and team seem great and I have no doubts that they'll do their best, but they sounded sincere when they said there isn't much point. I personally doubt that the reanodizing will change anything, but we'll wait and see.
This puts us on a path with no realistic fix (providing reanodizing doesn't work). The only other option at this point would be to start all over again, but we all know that just isn't possible.
As previously said, I'll be cataloging all the cases so I can rank them from best to worst. I'll then contact everyone, in the order they paid their shipping invoice, so that you can then choose your case from the catalogue and know exactly what you'll get.
Regarding spot selling - it's awkward. I still want to list them to help as much, but there are obviously going to be more sellers than buyers. I cannot keep the cases in the house any longer. It'll most likely get to the point where I'll send the case to you if it hasn't sold. It's unfortunate, but it's whats happened.
I'll get an updated list (and how to contact me regarding buying and selling spots) up later. Some spots did sell, but then a couple people charged me back and ate into that money so I now need to shuffle money around until everyone is happy. If a spot reads sold but you haven't got your money, stay patient please. If you've emailed me asking me to sell your spot, I'll list it, but don't bet on it selling.
And finally, I owe all the participants an apology. Every participant put their trust in me to deliver flawless cases, and I couldn't due to various elements. If I get another chance at designing and selling cases, then I'll make sure it is flawless. This time there were mistakes, and I ultimately take blame as I made all the decisions that led up to this point. I am truly sorry, and I hope you can forgive me.
keep your head up man. any reasonable person can see factory is to blame for most of the issues. Those who think it's so easy to force a factory in another country half way around the world into remaking all the cases (for what I'm sure they consider minor imperfections) are delusional. contract or no contract. ivan lives in the ****ing United States and we can't even get the guy prosecuted for scamming gb participants of tens of thousands of $$$, and you think xondat's gonna be able to force some factory in china to remake a 100 cases? xondat isn't apple and doesn't have that kinda leverage/power over a factory.
we were all participants in a group buy, which means we all should have been completely aware of the risks involved, esp with manufacturing screw ups which are outside the gb runner's control and which we can't expect the gb runner to shell out his/her own money to fix while the rest of us ***** and moan without contributing more of our own funds.
seriously, damn good job so far for your first rodeo xondat.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:18:04
Those who can't appreciate that custom keebs don't grow on trees should probably refrain from joining future GBs and choose off-the-shelf instead.
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Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:50:55
Post by: poolside on Wed, 05 July 2017, 14:06:17
As previously said, I'll be cataloging all the cases so I can rank them from best to worst. I'll then contact everyone, in the order they paid their shipping invoice, so that you can then choose your case from the catalogue and know exactly what you'll get.
Will the sorting also be done by case type and color, or will people be able to choose whatever case they want depending only on their spot on that list?
Post by: Jemaunji on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:29:11
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:35:38
Post by: hervuli on Wed, 05 July 2017, 16:42:44
keep your head up man. any reasonable person can see factory is to blame for most of the issues. Those who think it's so easy to force a factory in another country half way around the world into remaking all the cases (for what I'm sure they consider minor imperfections) are delusional. contract or no contract. ivan lives in the ****ing United States and we can't even get the guy prosecuted for scamming gb participants of tens of thousands of $$$, and you think xondat's gonna be able to force some factory in china to remake a 100 cases? xondat isn't apple and doesn't have that kinda leverage/power over a factory.
we were all participants in a group buy, which means we all should have been completely aware of the risks involved, esp with manufacturing screw ups which are outside the gb runner's control and which we can't expect the gb runner to shell out his/her own money to fix while the rest of us ***** and moan without contributing more of our own funds.
seriously, damn good job so far for your first rodeo xondat.
Just wanted to echo this. Sorry this hasn't gone the way anyone wanted it to, but thanks for the great communication & for being as flexible and patient as possible.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:10:28
When will those of us who have not received a shipping invoice be receiving one?
Once I've figured out the spots I will.
Will the sorting also be done by case type and color, or will people be able to choose whatever case they want depending only on their spot on that list?
Take this example as the answer: if there are 20 black HHKBs, the person who has a black HHKB and paid their shipping invoice first will get first dibs.
Will our chances at receiving a less damaged board be impacted by not receiving a shipping invoice yet? Sorry about the boards and we all appreciate the transparency and updates as well.
See the previous answer. I believe 75ish have paid, so if you haven't paid yet, then you'll stand a lower chance at picking a good one (as there might not be any). I'm sorry that's the way it is, but I feel it's the fairest (unless the majority of people can decide on another method).
I'll see it as a board with character and story
;)
Thanks to everyone for their positive comments; making it easier for us all.
Post by: Quakemz on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:16:01
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 05 July 2017, 18:37:52
If my spot doesn't wind up selling, I'm actually looking forward to doing a sticker-bomb on it. lol
My vote still goes towards really beating up a savage one to make a gnarly ratted out board. Throw some really really shiny OG doubleshots on it and a melted Clack.
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 05 July 2017, 19:07:07
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 19:12:59
I think there are about 15 remaining people that need to.
I'll be posting the slots that will be for sale tomorrow, sorry about this slight delay but I haven't fully figured everything out.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 05 July 2017, 23:20:23
I went to the local anodizing place yesterday and had a good talk with them about potentially reanodizing all the parts. I took a few sample parts for quotes and to show what sort of quality I want to improve on.Even tho a re-ano obviously won't get rid of any deep scratches, or dings. It should make the affected boards look better, and at least hide some of the imperfections.
The end result was that reanodizing won't remove the imperfections as it's not one thing (the alloy, machining, handling, anodizing, etc) that add the imperfections - it's everything that leads up to it being in my hands. They said the current anodizing is "pretty good", and they wouldn't be able to improve it much due to the history of the parts.
They've offered to reanodize a couple just to see what happens, and I'm taking them up on that offer. I'll get a case with bad defects reanodized, along with a better one to see how both turn out. Their facilities and team seem great and I have no doubts that they'll do their best, but they sounded sincere when they said there isn't much point. I personally doubt that the reanodizing will change anything, but we'll wait and see.
This puts us on a path with no realistic fix (providing reanodizing doesn't work). The only other option at this point would be to start all over again, but we all know that just isn't possible.
As previously said, I'll be cataloging all the cases so I can rank them from best to worst. I'll then contact everyone, in the order they paid their shipping invoice, so that you can then choose your case from the catalogue and know exactly what you'll get.
Regarding spot selling - it's awkward. I still want to list them to help as much, but there are obviously going to be more sellers than buyers. I cannot keep the cases in the house any longer. It'll most likely get to the point where I'll send the case to you if it hasn't sold. It's unfortunate, but it's whats happened.
I'll get an updated list (and how to contact me regarding buying and selling spots) up later. Some spots did sell, but then a couple people charged me back and ate into that money so I now need to shuffle money around until everyone is happy. If a spot reads sold but you haven't got your money, stay patient please. If you've emailed me asking me to sell your spot, I'll list it, but don't bet on it selling.
And finally, I owe all the participants an apology. Every participant put their trust in me to deliver flawless cases, and I couldn't due to various elements. If I get another chance at designing and selling cases, then I'll make sure it is flawless. This time there were mistakes, and I ultimately take blame as I made all the decisions that led up to this point. I am truly sorry, and I hope you can forgive me.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 05 July 2017, 23:43:09
Not that there is an easy solution to this problem
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 06 July 2017, 08:37:50
Post by: maximm on Thu, 06 July 2017, 08:45:37
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 06 July 2017, 09:04:17
If my spot doesn't wind up selling, I'm actually looking forward to doing a sticker-bomb on it. lol
My vote still goes towards really beating up a savage one to make a gnarly ratted out board. Throw some really really shiny OG doubleshots on it and a melted Clack.
That was my plan as well, hoping whoever has the most fk'd up board ends up sellin it.
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 06 July 2017, 09:14:07
I really don't see how it's fair that those who happened to be paying more attention to the thread and got their shipping invoices first get to pick their boards
Not that there is an easy solution to this problem
I am a bit bummed out that paid my order in full at the end of August 2016 and now I'm a low rank because I wasn't able to pay my shipping immediately.
The folks who paid early did get an extra plate, but it still seems a bit unfair to pay so early and get low priority on a case :(
Post by: xondat on Thu, 06 July 2017, 09:39:44
- The 8 people that paid fully when changing factory for new prototype.
- Original Carbon/Founder order
- Shipping order for the remaining
I am starting to think it is unfair on the very early supporters - there is one of the original 8 that still hasn't paid shipping so it feels wrong. I'm not sure the case would've happened with the original full payers which is why it got me thinking.
Please continue to share thoughts - nothing is final until cases start going out.
Post by: I_need_a_bath on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:38:48
I'm thinking of a new order:
- The 8 people that paid fully when changing factory for new prototype.
- Original Carbon/Founder order
- Shipping order for the remaining
I am starting to think it is unfair on the very early supporters - there is one of the original 8 that still hasn't paid shipping so it feels wrong. I'm not sure the case would've happened with the original full payers which is why it got me thinking.
Please continue to share thoughts - nothing is final until cases start going out.
Just an option, but maybe instead of doing shipping order for the last group you could assign them to people randomly? Could make it a little bit more fair in terms of someone receiving one with more or less defects.
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 06 July 2017, 13:33:13
I'm thinking of a new order:I guess everyone is going to favor the method that benefits them the most; people down the list for shipping will be opposed to being selected that way when quality decreases every time someone ahead of them takes a board. But since I've been following the buy pretty closely for the last year I was really looking forward to shipping which is why I jumped on the form as fast as I did for the benefit of receiving the board first instead of waiting another month and claiming it isn't fair. Just another angle to consider eh.
- The 8 people that paid fully when changing factory for new prototype.
- Original Carbon/Founder order
- Shipping order for the remaining
I am starting to think it is unfair on the very early supporters - there is one of the original 8 that still hasn't paid shipping so it feels wrong. I'm not sure the case would've happened with the original full payers which is why it got me thinking.
Please continue to share thoughts - nothing is final until cases start going out.
Post by: lishi on Thu, 06 July 2017, 14:22:49
I'm thinking of a new order:I am starting to think it is unfair on the very early supporters - there is one of the original 8 that still hasn't paid shipping so it feels wrong. I'm not sure the case would've happened with the original full payers which is why it got me thinking.
- The 8 people that paid fully when changing factory for new prototype.
- Original Carbon/Founder order
- Shipping order for the remaining
Please continue to share thoughts - nothing is final until cases start going out.
Just an option, but maybe instead of doing shipping order for the last group you could assign them to people randomly? Could make it a little bit more fair in terms of someone receiving one with more or less defects.
Given that xondat communicated out when the shipping invoice form was going out and has said multiple times that the boards would be shipped in the order that people paid the original invoice this seems like a slap in the face to the people that were on top of the shipping invoice.
Post by: poolside on Thu, 06 July 2017, 14:40:05
Will the sorting also be done by case type and color, or will people be able to choose whatever case they want depending only on their spot on that list?
Take this example as the answer: if there are 20 black HHKBs, the person who has a black HHKB and paid their shipping invoice first will get first dibs.
Thanks for the clarification. My purple wkl is safe ;D
I hope it is not too banged up.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 06 July 2017, 14:56:14
The new order number based way makes most sense in my opinion, but since ordered were ment to ship in order of shipping invoice, this would sort of make sense aswell.
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:06:40
I think that RNG is likely the best option. It acknowledges that there are many reasons to order early or later and gives everyone an equal chance regardless.
Post by: Razer1987 on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:20:36
The fact that you stop sending invoice for shipping made this choice very unfair. I pay as much as everyone but I am gonna be disavantaged because you choose to stop invoicing...
Random number is clearly the only fair solution for everyone.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:39:10
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Post by: Khers on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:49:00
Post by: brighenne on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:56:53
Being one of the first eight to back this GB, having a founders order and having been on top of things when the shipping form went up (@razer, you have to fill out a form to ger an invoice, so I don't think xondat's put you at a disadvantage), I'd be pretty bummed if this went to rng, tbh. Just my two cents.
I'm with ya. I can understand RNG for the people who came late, but I think it'd be a bummer if that supersedes folks who paid in full nearly a year ago to make sure the GB kept going.
Post by: maximm on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:02:28
Post by: fendent on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:08:01
Being one of the first eight to back this GB, having a founders order and having been on top of things when the shipping form went up (@razer, you have to fill out a form to ger an invoice, so I don't think xondat's put you at a disadvantage), I'd be pretty bummed if this went to rng, tbh. Just my two cents.
I'm kind of in this boat too. I'll accept whatever the end result is though. There's no easy answer here.
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:12:35
More seriously, I think that the original order is much fairer than shipping invoices order or RNG, just because it shows who really trusted you in the beginning.
PS: please answer my mails bud :(
Post by: romevi on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:17:51
Since I have the first message on this thread, I propose to ship by order of posts here. :D
More seriously, I think that the original order is much fairer than shipping invoices order or RNG, just because it shows who really trusted you in the beginning.
PS: please answer my mails bud :(
I would definitely say shipping them in the order the original board orders were received is fairest.
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:36:54
Since I have the first message on this thread, I propose to ship by order of posts here. :D
More seriously, I think that the original order is much fairer than shipping invoices order or RNG, just because it shows who really trusted you in the beginning.
PS: please answer my mails bud :(
I would definitely say shipping them in the order the original board orders were received is fairest.
When all the keyboards have the same level of finish, shipping in the order of shipping payment makes sense. But now shipping by the order/payment date is fairer.
Post by: limitz on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:42:26
Agreed. As someone who camped out the original invoice, and was one of the first 10 to pay, RNG or shipping payment order is unfair to those who were the longest backers.
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 06 July 2017, 17:08:10
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 06 July 2017, 19:38:35
Do I need to remind people that everybody paid the same amount?
I don't see how that entitles people to be able to choose a board that is arguably worth much more than others?
Post by: Danboard on Thu, 06 July 2017, 20:36:34
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 06 July 2017, 20:43:25
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 06 July 2017, 20:45:31
Considering it had been stated for many months now that shipping order would be determined by the order in which invoices were paid, I think that it should stay that way. I could see having the individuals who got the GB off the ground having first choice, but IMO rng is absolutely the most unfair way of doing it, as is going by original order number.I agree.
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 06 July 2017, 21:06:40
Considering it had been stated for many months now that shipping order would be determined by the order in which invoices were paid, I think that it should stay that way. I could see having the individuals who got the GB off the ground having first choice, but IMO rng is absolutely the most unfair way of doing it, as is going by original order number.I agree.
+1
We're all likely similarly hosed. With 75-90% of the parts problematic, this is going to be the ultimate DIY GB. We're all going to have to look into reanodizing, finding a cerakote shop or sticker bombing. I think Xondat's plan of taking care of those who bought in way early and helped fund the prototypes makes sense. Then follow the shipping plan he was planning on following all along. Just my two cents. I'm not too worried since I know whenever mine ships, I'm going to probably look to re-do as much as possible.
Xondat is handling this as well as possible. There are always risks to GBs and this can happen. That said, for a $350 board, production was a $#!@ show, there's no money or path to fix that and we're on our own to fix it, whenever they ship.
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 06 July 2017, 21:14:03
Considering it had been stated for many months now that shipping order would be determined by the order in which invoices were paid, I think that it should stay that way. I could see having the individuals who got the GB off the ground having first choice, but IMO rng is absolutely the most unfair way of doing it, as is going by original order number.I agree.
+1
We're all likely similarly hosed. With 75-90% of the parts problematic, this is going to be the ultimate DIY GB. We're all going to have to look into reanodizing, finding a cerakote shop or sticker bombing. I think Xondat's plan of taking care of those who bought in way early and helped fund the prototypes makes sense. Then follow the shipping plan he was planning on following all along. Just my two cents. I'm not too worried since I know whenever mine ships, I'm going to probably look to re-do as much as possible.
Xondat is handling this as well as possible. There are always risks to GBs and this can happen. That said, for a $350 board, production was a $#!@ show, there's no money or path to fix that and we're on our own to fix it, whenever they ship.
We all paid the same amount of money?
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 06 July 2017, 21:18:13
Post by: smittysteve on Thu, 06 July 2017, 21:18:33
Considering it had been stated for many months now that shipping order would be determined by the order in which invoices were paid, I think that it should stay that way. I could see having the individuals who got the GB off the ground having first choice, but IMO rng is absolutely the most unfair way of doing it, as is going by original order number.I agree.
+1
We're all likely similarly hosed. With 75-90% of the parts problematic, this is going to be the ultimate DIY GB. We're all going to have to look into reanodizing, finding a cerakote shop or sticker bombing. I think Xondat's plan of taking care of those who bought in way early and helped fund the prototypes makes sense. Then follow the shipping plan he was planning on following all along. Just my two cents. I'm not too worried since I know whenever mine ships, I'm going to probably look to re-do as much as possible.
Xondat is handling this as well as possible. There are always risks to GBs and this can happen. That said, for a $350 board, production was a $#!@ show, there's no money or path to fix that and we're on our own to fix it, whenever they ship.
We all paid the same amount of money?
Except for 10 Carbon folks and depending on extras, yes.
Post by: slickmamba on Fri, 07 July 2017, 12:55:22
As a GB runner I would definitely thank those who made the jump to support me from the beginning.
Post by: doom2 on Fri, 07 July 2017, 22:53:38
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Post by: ihalatch on Fri, 07 July 2017, 23:01:13
Great to see all the partisanship in here
Do I need to remind people that everybody paid the same amount?
I don't see how that entitles people to be able to choose a board that is arguably worth much more than others?
+1
Post by: maximm on Sat, 08 July 2017, 03:04:31
Post by: wodan on Sat, 08 July 2017, 04:13:06
- Everyone on the last two pages
Discussing this here might seem like a good & open idea but what it really does is bring people up against each other. Xondat I think it's better for the ongoing conversation here to quickly make a decision and stop giving people the impression it is still time to get an advantage.
Some people here brought up the valid consideration that damages are affecting the value of what we are getting. Here's my proposal to find a solution that might help find some way to mediate between those who want the best cases and those who will end up with beat up cases.
We're all in this boat together and it seems to be just a question of who gets the best cases and who gets a **** case. Why not separate the cases into three conditions "Good" "Okay" and "Damaged"
People who really want a "GOOD" case from the pile pay 50$ to a person who is getting a "Damaged" case.
If you want to have nothing to do with this you will end up with an average quality case at the price you paid. But since we can't all get the good cases, why not compensate someone who is willing to take a more damaged case for the privilege of getting one of the good ones.
I am not saything this is the perfect solution but it might help some people settle for a damaged case and allows people who are in it for a top end case to show some respect to those who get the bottom end stuff.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:46:27
Post by: xondat on Sat, 08 July 2017, 10:47:20
I really like wodan's suggestion, but it still leaves the majority (with okay boards) still needing an order to chose.
I don't want to resort to going random as it does screw over people that were on top on everything. At minimum, I think early supporters that have stuck through should benefit, if anything. But then you have the problem (for example) of the 100th person paying the same as the 1st person.
From what people have said, no one has suggested anything that goes against them (apart from 1). I didn't really expect anyone to, but it does show what sort of opinion range we have. There are about 10 really good, 80 average, and 10 worse cases. The majority won't be affected, but it's going to be the first and last 10 that ultimately it'll affect.
Regarding when I stopped the shipping invoicing, there were 3 pending, and 72 had been invoiced total. The most someone could've gain is 3 slots - 72nd invoice to 70th paid.
Some people have been asking "my case is 1/1, why hasn't it been sent out?". I still have to document every single case - why? Well the factory could say they'll replace a small number of parts, and I'll have to pick out the worst parts. It'd be almost impossible to do this without all cases on hand.
I'll most likely resort to a vote including everyone. It's the absolute fairest way to allow the majority to decide. Please continue the discussion. There won't be a sudden jump to a decision, and I want everyones thoughts.
Post by: avid on Sat, 08 July 2017, 11:38:11
People want to sell boards that came out damaged and you charge them a 5% handling fee?
Can't say i agree with Wodan. Wouldn't it make more sense that this money came out of xondat profits?
Post by: doom2 on Sat, 08 July 2017, 11:49:21
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Post by: xondat on Sat, 08 July 2017, 11:54:47
People want to sell boards that came out damaged and you charge them a 5% handling fee?
Can't say i agree with Wodan. Wouldn't it make more sense that this money came out of xondat profits?
It's just PayPals fee.
Get up to date on the thread by reading all the recent big updates if you want to comment ;D
My spot (68) is no longer listed for sale in the latest update, has it sold?
It has, but Unforgiveable charged back so as soon as I got the money, it was immediately locked and then went into his wallet. I'm selling his remaining slots and then you'll be refunded.
Post by: smittysteve on Sat, 08 July 2017, 12:31:04
However, paying a premium for less damage feels a bit like throwing good money after bad, though. I'm against that idea, sorry.
Post by: SixtyLife on Sat, 08 July 2017, 12:35:07
that said, if someone wants to pay an extra $50 for the best condition case I'll be happy to be on the opposite end of that deal taking the ****tiest case for $50 and use that money towards getting it re-finished.
As a person who camped this thread from IC phase to get in on the original 30, early contributed to get a proto built, and checked the thread every day (therefore being aware to submit shipping quickly to get an early spot) RNG doesn't seem remotely fair.
Also, to those arguing that everyone paid the same amount - if you factor in time value of money, those who paid earlier actually paid more than those who paid later.
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 08 July 2017, 15:07:51
I suggest going with RNG. I don't agree with charging anyone more than they agreed to at the beginning, nor do I think anyone has priority on a case because of a paying earlier or on time, or faster than someone else. It's simply not fair (in my opinion) to prioritize someone's case quality based on payment time.
If there was a timing separation between the "first 8 or 10" people that are being talked about, then I think yes, they deserve to have priority. Like they paid a week or a month ahead to help make the prototype or something. But if they paid in the same invoicing period, then, they should be treated equally.
If I were in this buy, I'd be insulted if the runner asked me to pay more, for a better quality case. It just equates to how much money I have, and it's so late into the buy. Everyone should be treated equally, unless some special condition were in place. The timing of payment doesn't really mean much, if it was 1minute faster... 1 hour faster, doesn't seem fair to me because of global time differences. People are sleeping or maybe they're at school, or out with their family or something.
In any case, I think people just wants the case. Everyone is already going to get a case with some kind of issue, so RNG will assure the issues are random, and no one got special treatment.
Cheers, and good luck.
Post by: jeffbolton on Sat, 08 July 2017, 16:00:41
Honestly if the boards are similar in condition as my 27, which is not that bad, most people will be happy with what they get.
Post by: axtran on Sat, 08 July 2017, 23:26:26
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 09 July 2017, 03:09:14
I am not in this GB, and this is my personal opinion. But I take interest in how people run group buys and the conditions during and after the buy.
I suggest going with RNG. I don't agree with charging anyone more than they agreed to at the beginning, nor do I think anyone has priority on a case because of a paying earlier or on time, or faster than someone else. It's simply not fair (in my opinion) to prioritize someone's case quality based on payment time.
If there was a timing separation between the "first 8 or 10" people that are being talked about, then I think yes, they deserve to have priority. Like they paid a week or a month ahead to help make the prototype or something. But if they paid in the same invoicing period, then, they should be treated equally.
If I were in this buy, I'd be insulted if the runner asked me to pay more, for a better quality case. It just equates to how much money I have, and it's so late into the buy. Everyone should be treated equally, unless some special condition were in place. The timing of payment doesn't really mean much, if it was 1minute faster... 1 hour faster, doesn't seem fair to me because of global time differences. People are sleeping or maybe they're at school, or out with their family or something.
In any case, I think people just wants the case. Everyone is already going to get a case with some kind of issue, so RNG will assure the issues are random, and no one got special treatment.
Cheers, and good luck.
This right here. Why the **** would anyone pay more for a case that's already ruined? Doesn't make any sense at all. This sounds like the fairest way possible.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 09 July 2017, 07:04:12
Can you please upload some photos of the worst ones Xondat.
Depending on how bad they are I will take one of those
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 09 July 2017, 10:05:49
As far as I can tell both, getting replacements and refinishing have been ruled out, so I don't see the need to catalogue each an every case honestly.
Just get them out so we can take care of refinishing them
Post by: DanB on Sun, 09 July 2017, 15:15:28
To me, it does not seem right to have people buy in for a damaged board at the price of what people originally assumed would be undamaged.
Post by: pvd on Sun, 09 July 2017, 15:20:30
Post by: henz on Sun, 09 July 2017, 15:37:53
Post by: xondat on Sun, 09 July 2017, 16:14:52
- Shipping order dictates the choosing order, cases go out as soon as they're chosen
- Original order number dictates the choosing order, cases go out as soon as they're chosen
- Random order of picking cases, cases go out as soon as they're chosen
- Randomly chosen cases, goes out in shipping order
If there is a major reject to any of these options, then I won't include them in the poll. I'll post it (and email all current participants) in 24 hours and then we can decide as a group.
Can you please upload some photos of the worst ones Xondat.
Depending on how bad they are I will take one of those
It depends how you rank them. Here are a few pictures. For some reason, imgur destroys the iPhone picture quality so any hints on that would be appreciated.
Again, depends what you're looking for and what you call bad. Personally the black is worse than the silver case. This is also only based on the top pieces - not sure if its worth bothering talking about the bottom pieces as they show the same sorts of scratches, but its on the face that is on the desk.
As far as I can tell both, getting replacements and refinishing have been ruled out, so I don't see the need to catalogue each an every case honestly.
Just get them out so we can take care of refinishing them
Word on replacements still isn't final but I'm not waiting on them at the minute. I want to catalog the cases no matter what because the following could happen: I send out all cases, factory agrees to replace a small amount of parts, I don't know who to send to due to not knowing who got what.
I am not in the buy, but would be fine buying one of the really damaged boards if it was less than GB price.
None can be sold below GB price.
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 09 July 2017, 16:33:46
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Post by: xondat on Sun, 09 July 2017, 16:56:57
Not sure if I'm looking at it won't but these all seem like pretty minor defects. I was expecting entire corners to be chipped and dented
The scratches are the only sort of physical change; all boards are absolutely functional. It's basically only the aesthetics that are ruined. There are three bases that are dented but I should get replacements on those and also on the weights that weren't made correctly.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 09 July 2017, 17:42:30
For some reason, imgur destroys the iPhone picture quality so any hints on that would be appreciated.
Imgur compresses all uploads, so unless you change your filehost you won't be able to change that.
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:31:08
Please just get this sorted and shipped out as soon as possible. It's a sad day indeed when people begin not only to pull the "I'm in a group buy therefore I'm entitled to updates", but now also "I got in early in a group buy without any distinct time stages and thus deserve special treatment over others paying the same money" card.
Unless for founders and carbon, of course. Priority for those cases makes sense.
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Post by: Fictiouz on Sun, 09 July 2017, 18:34:18
Post by: xondat on Sun, 09 July 2017, 19:38:01
There are 20 different variants of X60 as you can see in this table here:
Therefore there are 20 groups of people. There are 11 groups with more than 1 person. I will contact each group of people with an individual poll so that each group can decide.
I'm aiming to make it as fair as possible for everyone involved. If I just poll all 95 people, there is the chance that all the people with Black HHKBs vote completely differently compared to Winkeyless Dark Grays. They don't affect each other unless in the same vote, and as they're different cases it wouldn't make sense.
If you're in the buy, you won't see any difference whether I poll for 95 people or 11 groups. You still have to fill it in, but now there is the chance that your group may choose something different.
With smaller groups (probably 4 max), I think it would be easier just to have a group chat and let it be worked out. I say this because I talked to the 2 people that have a Red 60%, and they came to a conclusion that worked for us all.
If you're the only person with a variant of a case, I'll contact you on here so we can get it in motion as quickly as possible.
I understand that a lot of people at this point just want their case. I get that and I also want the cases in your hands instead of mine. I'll be working as effectively as possible to get cases out. I don't see a reason why the large majority of cases can't be out within the next two weeks. I plan to complete cataloguing by the end of the week (16th).
All red cases have been packaged and they're ready to be collected tomorrow (Monday).
Post by: limitz on Sun, 09 July 2017, 20:57:16
This is going to seem like a really long winded, over complicated solution to distribution but I'll try and explain it the best I can.
There are 20 different variants of X60 as you can see in this table here:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lIDeJoa.png)
Therefore there are 20 groups of people. There are 11 groups with more than 1 person. I will contact each group of people with an individual poll so that each group can decide.
I'm aiming to make it as fair as possible for everyone involved. If I just poll all 95 people, there is the chance that all the people with Black HHKBs vote completely differently compared to Winkeyless Dark Grays. They don't affect each other unless in the same vote, and as they're different cases it wouldn't make sense.
If you're in the buy, you won't see any difference whether I poll for 95 people or 11 groups. You still have to fill it in, but now there is the chance that your group may choose something different.
With smaller groups (probably 4 max), I think it would be easier just to have a group chat and let it be worked out. I say this because I talked to the 2 people that have a Red 60%, and they came to a conclusion that worked for us all.
If you're the only person with a variant of a case, I'll contact you on here so we can get it in motion as quickly as possible.
I understand that a lot of people at this point just want their case. I get that and I also want the cases in your hands instead of mine. I'll be working as effectively as possible to get cases out. I don't see a reason why the large majority of cases can't be out within the next two weeks. I plan to complete cataloguing by the end of the week (16th).
All red cases have been packaged and they're ready to be collected tomorrow (Monday).
Would it make sense to split the Black group into "Carbon" and "Others"? Two reasons
1) Carbon paid a higher price
2) There was no other color choice for Carbon.
Due to the limit of 10, the carbon owners will be underrepresented in any group. Doesn't feel right you could get a worse case as a Carbon owner when you had no choice of color, and paid more to boot.
Post by: Fictiouz on Sun, 09 July 2017, 20:58:54
I agree with limitz on this one.This is going to seem like a really long winded, over complicated solution to distribution but I'll try and explain it the best I can.
There are 20 different variants of X60 as you can see in this table here:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lIDeJoa.png)
Therefore there are 20 groups of people. There are 11 groups with more than 1 person. I will contact each group of people with an individual poll so that each group can decide.
I'm aiming to make it as fair as possible for everyone involved. If I just poll all 95 people, there is the chance that all the people with Black HHKBs vote completely differently compared to Winkeyless Dark Grays. They don't affect each other unless in the same vote, and as they're different cases it wouldn't make sense.
If you're in the buy, you won't see any difference whether I poll for 95 people or 11 groups. You still have to fill it in, but now there is the chance that your group may choose something different.
With smaller groups (probably 4 max), I think it would be easier just to have a group chat and let it be worked out. I say this because I talked to the 2 people that have a Red 60%, and they came to a conclusion that worked for us all.
If you're the only person with a variant of a case, I'll contact you on here so we can get it in motion as quickly as possible.
I understand that a lot of people at this point just want their case. I get that and I also want the cases in your hands instead of mine. I'll be working as effectively as possible to get cases out. I don't see a reason why the large majority of cases can't be out within the next two weeks. I plan to complete cataloguing by the end of the week (16th).
All red cases have been packaged and they're ready to be collected tomorrow (Monday).
Would it make sense to split the Black group into "Carbon" and "Others"? Two reasons
1) Carbon paid a higher price
2) There was no other color choice for Carbon.
Due to the limit of 10, the carbon owners will be underrepresented in any group. Doesn't feel right you could get a worse case as a Carbon owner when you had no choice of color, and paid more to boot.
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Post by: briannnn on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:16:34
Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, I thought the higher price for carbon was for numbered SS weight and CF plate... so I don't see why the cases should be handled differently.This is going to seem like a really long winded, over complicated solution to distribution but I'll try and explain it the best I can.
There are 20 different variants of X60 as you can see in this table here:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lIDeJoa.png)
Therefore there are 20 groups of people. There are 11 groups with more than 1 person. I will contact each group of people with an individual poll so that each group can decide.
I'm aiming to make it as fair as possible for everyone involved. If I just poll all 95 people, there is the chance that all the people with Black HHKBs vote completely differently compared to Winkeyless Dark Grays. They don't affect each other unless in the same vote, and as they're different cases it wouldn't make sense.
If you're in the buy, you won't see any difference whether I poll for 95 people or 11 groups. You still have to fill it in, but now there is the chance that your group may choose something different.
With smaller groups (probably 4 max), I think it would be easier just to have a group chat and let it be worked out. I say this because I talked to the 2 people that have a Red 60%, and they came to a conclusion that worked for us all.
If you're the only person with a variant of a case, I'll contact you on here so we can get it in motion as quickly as possible.
I understand that a lot of people at this point just want their case. I get that and I also want the cases in your hands instead of mine. I'll be working as effectively as possible to get cases out. I don't see a reason why the large majority of cases can't be out within the next two weeks. I plan to complete cataloguing by the end of the week (16th).
All red cases have been packaged and they're ready to be collected tomorrow (Monday).
Would it make sense to split the Black group into "Carbon" and "Others"? Two reasons
1) Carbon paid a higher price
2) There was no other color choice for Carbon.
Due to the limit of 10, the carbon owners will be underrepresented in any group. Doesn't feel right you could get a worse case as a Carbon owner when you had no choice of color, and paid more to boot.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 21:19:20
If this is what all the damage looks like I would think that re-ano would definitely make them look better.Can you please upload some photos of the worst ones Xondat.
Depending on how bad they are I will take one of those
It depends how you rank them. Here are a few pictures. For some reason, imgur destroys the iPhone picture quality so any hints on that would be appreciated.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/x5IKRFK.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tJzwgzc.jpg)
This is all the same top piece:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KPt5u33.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4MTg908.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vaHRzM4.jpg)
Again, depends what you're looking for and what you call bad. Personally the black is worse than the silver case. This is also only based on the top pieces - not sure if its worth bothering talking about the bottom pieces as they show the same sorts of scratches, but its on the face that is on the desk.
Like I said before, of course it wouldn't help with dings/dents.
However it would be even better if the shop ends up deciding to replace the damaged boards.
Post by: axtran on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:32:37
If this is what all the damage looks like I would think that re-ano would definitely make them look better.
Like I said before, of course it wouldn't help with dings/dents.
However it would be even better if the shop ends up deciding to replace the damaged boards.
Proper reanodizing will require stripping of all of the affected boards to get rid of the last color, and then redip into each color to reanodize. You're going to get better results receiving the board and then attempting to have a better quality shop do the work, if this is the result of the existing shop's work. Plus, shipping to China and back will probably equal more taxes to xondat upon receipt, etc. The local anodizing shop that he's contacted doesn't look like they're going to be very confident in doing a better job, either. Anodizing is at a tiny-tiny-tiny level, it isn't like painting a layer on metal.
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 09 July 2017, 22:53:13
Trust me, it works well and a lot of anodizing companies uses this method for black cases with defect.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sun, 09 July 2017, 23:21:32
If this is what all the damage looks like I would think that re-ano would definitely make them look better.
Like I said before, of course it wouldn't help with dings/dents.
However it would be even better if the shop ends up deciding to replace the damaged boards.
Proper reanodizing will require stripping of all of the affected boards to get rid of the last color, and then redip into each color to reanodize. You're going to get better results receiving the board and then attempting to have a better quality shop do the work, if this is the result of the existing shop's work. Plus, shipping to China and back will probably equal more taxes to xondat upon receipt, etc. The local anodizing shop that he's contacted doesn't look like they're going to be very confident in doing a better job, either. Anodizing is at a tiny-tiny-tiny level, it isn't like painting a layer on metal.
Right. I'm aware of how the process works. What I was saying is that from the looks of the pictures, re-ano is an option that would make them look better then their current state.
I look forward to seeing how the ones he had done at his local place turns out.
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 09 July 2017, 23:42:17
Still, I wouldn't blame Xondat for this since the samples shown to him were free of defects. These kind of underhanded tactics happen all too often, best that can be done is learn from them.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 July 2017, 05:58:45
Would it make sense to split the Black group into "Carbon" and "Others"? Two reasons
1) Carbon paid a higher price
Just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, I thought the higher price for carbon was for numbered SS weight and CF plate... so I don't see why the cases should be handled differently.
Yup, originally (when there was 10 Carbon/30 Founders) the price difference was $50 when you added the SS weight and CF plate.
If this is what all the damage looks like I would think that re-ano would definitely make them look better.
Like I said before, of course it wouldn't help with dings/dents.
However it would be even better if the shop ends up deciding to replace the damaged boards.
Proper reanodizing will require stripping of all of the affected boards to get rid of the last color, and then redip into each color to reanodize. You're going to get better results receiving the board and then attempting to have a better quality shop do the work, if this is the result of the existing shop's work. Plus, shipping to China and back will probably equal more taxes to xondat upon receipt, etc. The local anodizing shop that he's contacted doesn't look like they're going to be very confident in doing a better job, either. Anodizing is at a tiny-tiny-tiny level, it isn't like painting a layer on metal.
Right. I'm aware of how the process works. What I was saying is that from the looks of the pictures, re-ano is an option that would make them look better then their current state.
I look forward to seeing how the ones he had done at his local place turns out.
I think reanodizing would make the colored boards look better but it would only be a cover up. From what I gathered, it wasn't worth the risk. I'll still be trying a couple samples to see how they turn out.
I have no stake in this matter (hoping for X75 to drop), but have looked into possible fixes myself. Sadly, the conclusion I've reached is that there is not much to be done without having the anodization stripped in the first place. Even going another route and powder-coating over the anodization can lead to chipping (which is likely the case here), but a full strip, prep, and powder-coat shouldn't lead to any issues (it's just a bit costly).
Still, I wouldn't blame Xondat for this since the samples shown to him were free of defects. These kind of underhanded tactics happen all too often, best that can be done is learn from them.
X75 probably won't be happening in it's current form any time soon, just so you know :'(
I think most people don't care enough when comparing how much it'd cost to fully fix and would rather get their case which is perfectly reasonable. Would be interesting to see some powder coated cases though.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 10 July 2017, 06:47:17
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 July 2017, 06:50:45
Just to confirm, no matter what order we end up on going with on the distribution front, we are still going to receive the board that we asked for? i.e. dark grey HHKB?
Of course. No configurations are changing.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 10 July 2017, 07:14:45
Awesome thanks dudeJust to confirm, no matter what order we end up on going with on the distribution front, we are still going to receive the board that we asked for? i.e. dark grey HHKB?
Of course. No configurations are changing.
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Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 July 2017, 07:24:04
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 10 July 2017, 08:42:51
Heading to the anodizing place to get a few black parts reanodized as a test. Should have them back by the end of the week. I'll take before and after pictures!
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 10 July 2017, 11:49:16
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
Yes. It won't fix the issues but it will cover them up (which is why I'll only do it for Black, Purple, and Dark Gray). Financially viable? It's manageable but I'd have to save up a bit.
Getting it solely stripped might be possible, but the "job" I'd be paying for would be reanodizing so would have to consult if they're good.
I get the cases back next Monday ish.
45 cases have been catalogued today, leaving 47 left to do (probably tomorrow). I'll be sending the polls out tonight.
Post by: Skull_Angel on Mon, 10 July 2017, 19:17:36
Heading to the anodizing place to get a few black parts reanodized as a test. Should have them back by the end of the week. I'll take before and after pictures!
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
If I understand correctly, you can't anodize over anodization. It needs to be stripped because anodizing is basically creating a thicker aluminum-oxide layer then chemically "painting" it. this is why there are so many variables that effect the outcome (even down to the proper bonding of aluminum into alloy). This was my reason for looking into other coloring methods and why I think another option would create the best appearance; it's likely the streaks would still appear to some degree, even with a high-grade process (eg; mil-spec type 3) which would also be cost-prohibitive.
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 11 July 2017, 11:33:14
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
Yes. It won't fix the issues but it will cover them up (which is why I'll only do it for Black, Purple, and Dark Gray). Financially viable? It's manageable but I'd have to save up a bit.
Getting it solely stripped might be possible, but the "job" I'd be paying for would be reanodizing so would have to consult if they're good.
I get the cases back next Monday ish.
45 cases have been catalogued today, leaving 47 left to do (probably tomorrow). I'll be sending the polls out tonight.
Been following this... Sorry to hear about the production issues and I'm hoping the factory is willing to send you replacements for the worst of the cases. Is there anything I can do to help? Any spots open you need filled?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:06:54
Been following this... Sorry to hear about the production issues and I'm hoping the factory is willing to send you replacements for the worst of the cases. Is there anything I can do to help? Any spots open you need filled?
Slots for sale are in this post; 103/107 are pending and the others are still open.
Slots for sale:
Please email support@noxary.co in the following format:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MfyHpWn.png)
Subject:
X60 BUY SLOT ___
Body:
PayPal Email
Country to ship to
Geekhack username
Each slot has a 5% handling fee due to PayPal fees. Shipping will be invoiced after.
Format for the slots:
- Type
- Case Color/Top
- Plates(s)
- PCBMoreSlot 101 - $450
- Carbon 05/10
- Black HHKB
- 2x ANSI Carbon
- No PCB
Slot 102 - $410
- Standard
- Gold HHKB
- ANSI Gold
- PCB
Slot 103 - $430
- Standard
- Dark Gray HHKB
- ANSI Red, ANSI Stainless Steel
- PCB
Slot 104 - $350
- Standard
- Black HHKB
- ANSI Red
- No PCB
Slot 105 - $350
- Standard
- Dark Gray HHKB
- ANSI Gold
- No PCB
Slot 106 - $350
- Standard
- Dark Gray HHKB
- ANSI Black
- No PCB
Slot 107 - $410
- Standard
- Silver HHKB
- ANSI Red
- PCB
Slot 108 - $430
- Standard
- Black 60%
- ANSI Red, ANSI Stainless Steel
- PCB
My girlfriend and I finished cataloging each board today. I just have to upload about 70 more albums onto imgur and then create the spreadsheet. I hopefully will be able to contact all groups tonight with the poll and images.
Post by: axtran on Tue, 11 July 2017, 13:38:53
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 11 July 2017, 14:32:48
Heading to the anodizing place to get a few black parts reanodized as a test. Should have them back by the end of the week. I'll take before and after pictures!
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
If I understand correctly, you can't anodize over anodization. It needs to be stripped because anodizing is basically creating a thicker aluminum-oxide layer then chemically "painting" it. this is why there are so many variables that effect the outcome (even down to the proper bonding of aluminum into alloy). This was my reason for looking into other coloring methods and why I think another option would create the best appearance; it's likely the streaks would still appear to some degree, even with a high-grade process (eg; mil-spec type 3) which would also be cost-prohibitive.
Thx Skull.
I do understand how anodizing works.
Since I figured it needs to be stripped, I was wondering if getting a bare stripped case would be an option.
This way I wouldn't have to look into stripping the case before getting it to a powder coating shop.
Post by: Skull_Angel on Tue, 11 July 2017, 16:04:03
Heading to the anodizing place to get a few black parts reanodized as a test. Should have them back by the end of the week. I'll take before and after pictures!
The parts will be completely stripped before anodizing correct?
If reanodizing will fix the issues, is this a financially viable option for all cases?
Doubt it will happen, but I would personally prefer a fully stripped of anodizing option because I have already looked into getting them powder coated.
If I understand correctly, you can't anodize over anodization. It needs to be stripped because anodizing is basically creating a thicker aluminum-oxide layer then chemically "painting" it. this is why there are so many variables that effect the outcome (even down to the proper bonding of aluminum into alloy). This was my reason for looking into other coloring methods and why I think another option would create the best appearance; it's likely the streaks would still appear to some degree, even with a high-grade process (eg; mil-spec type 3) which would also be cost-prohibitive.
Thx Skull.
I do understand how anodizing works.
Since I figured it needs to be stripped, I was wondering if getting a bare stripped case would be an option.
This way I wouldn't have to look into stripping the case before getting it to a powder coating shop.
You can remove it with household materials fairly easy, just be vary very careful if you use anything like/with lye (drain/oven cleaner) as it can cause etching/pitting and releases gases. Greased Lightning is easy to find and will do the trick safely, you should be able to find Caswell anodizing stripper which should be a phosphoric acid/chromic acid mix that also preserves the aluminum.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:11:34
I am packing boards on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday for Monday collection so the sooner groups figure everything out, the higher the chance you'll get it collected Monday. Black/Blue/Purple boards will be held until I get the anodizing samples back as scratches on these can be covered up the most by reanodizing. I'll make it opt-in if the samples turn out good.
I have emailed all the people that have yet to fill out a shipping form.
I will contact each group with their catalog and form to select their board as soon as they have chosen which route they'll take.
I'll be sending out the remaining shipping invoices at the following time/date: 5PM EST 14th of July 2017.
Please email me at support@noxary.co if you have any problems with your order.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:52:26
Everyone that has any variant Black, Dark Gray, or Silver case has been PM'd regarding distribution; I'll be sending emails out tomorrow with the exact same message to people that haven't filled it out yet to get everyone to asap. People with Gold, Blue, and Purple will be contacted tomorrow. Please let me know if you have a paid slot but did not receive a message.
I am packing boards on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday for Monday collection so the sooner groups figure everything out, the higher the chance you'll get it collected Monday. Black/Blue/Purple boards will be held until I get the anodizing samples back as scratches on these can be covered up the most by reanodizing. I'll make it opt-in if the samples turn out good.
I have emailed all the people that have yet to fill out a shipping form.
I will contact each group with their catalog and form to select their board as soon as they have chosen which route they'll take.
I'll be sending out the remaining shipping invoices at the following time/date: 5PM EST 14th of July 2017.
Please email me at support@noxary.co if you have any problems with your order.
Did you have any of the Dark Grey re-anodized locally to see how they would turn out?
Form filled.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 July 2017, 20:54:29
Did you have any of the Dark Grey re-anodized locally to see how they would turn out?
I'm getting a couple black parts reanodized to see what happens. There is no point doing Dark Gray/Silver as it won't cover anything up.
Post by: mesteris on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:42:23
I don't think shipping form order would really be fair. In fact, I think letting people choose cases for any reason is really unfair. Why should filling out the shipping form grant any advantages when everyone joined the same group buy? People joined with the understanding that every case would be more or less the same. Because a user filled out a shipping form a few hours/days before it even mattered shouldn't get them a better case. User X fills out the shipping form a week before you get the cases. User Y fills out the shipping form two days before you get the cases. In this situation user X will receive a better case. Does that seem right? You might as well let people choose cases based off of something just as arbitrary, like number of times they used the letter 'f' in their post history.
Original order number doesn't really make sense to me either. Perhaps I'm mistaken but as I recall, the group buy had no problem filling spots, so it's not like the people that signed up earlier were trying to support something that might not happen. Perhaps if people had been reluctant to order an X60 and the buy had trouble reaching MOQ would original order number make sense. But it didn't, right? In fact isn't it quite the opposite? People wanted in but there weren't enough slots? I apologize if I'm wrong here.
Are you really okay with having the person that ordered last get the worst case, even though they paid the same amount and they were not aware at the time of ordering that their order number mattered?
I also disagree with the voting system. People will typically have no reason to vote for something that's fair for the whole group. They'll vote in their best interest, which means many people are going to vote for something that isn't necessarily correct or fair to everyone, only themselves. I totally understand you're trying to satisfy the most number of people possible but voting isn't the correct solution. With 4 options, I fear that order number is going to get a large chunk of the votes with the rest split among the others, allowing that option to win. RNG is essentially split in two options as well which means it's basically not going to win. The vote as of now, should be 3 options. Order #, shipping form order, or RNG. Not two different versions of RNG.
I'm not saying RNG is the best solution here. However, it's more of a fair solution than shipping form or order number.
The whole situation is really unfortunate, and I'm sorry you have to deal with these issues but if shipping form order or order # is the method of case selection, I honestly believe that's only making things worse.
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 12 July 2017, 01:54:45
There used to be a list right?
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Post by: mesteris on Wed, 12 July 2017, 02:12:34
Yes. It won't fix the issues but it will cover them up (which is why I'll only do it for Black, Purple, and Dark Gray). Financially viable? It's manageable but I'd have to save up a bit.
Did you have any of the Dark Grey re-anodized locally to see how they would turn out?
I'm getting a couple black parts reanodized to see what happens. There is no point doing Dark Gray/Silver as it won't cover anything up.
Xondat, do you mind elaborating on this?
Post by: Razer1987 on Wed, 12 July 2017, 03:53:36
I'm sorry you have to deal with this but I really want to get my 2 cents in before everyone votes.
I don't think shipping form order would really be fair. In fact, I think letting people choose cases for any reason is really unfair. Why should filling out the shipping form grant any advantages when everyone joined the same group buy? People joined with the understanding that every case would be more or less the same. Because a user filled out a shipping form a few hours/days before it even mattered shouldn't get them a better case. User X fills out the shipping form a week before you get the cases. User Y fills out the shipping form two days before you get the cases. In this situation user X will receive a better case. Does that seem right? You might as well let people choose cases based off of something just as arbitrary, like number of times they used the letter 'f' in their post history.
Original order number doesn't really make sense to me either. Perhaps I'm mistaken but as I recall, the group buy had no problem filling spots, so it's not like the people that signed up earlier were trying to support something that might not happen. Perhaps if people had been reluctant to order an X60 and the buy had trouble reaching MOQ would original order number make sense. But it didn't, right? In fact isn't it quite the opposite? People wanted in but there weren't enough slots? I apologize if I'm wrong here.
Are you really okay with having the person that ordered last get the worst case, even though they paid the same amount and they were not aware at the time of ordering that their order number mattered?
I also disagree with the voting system. People will typically have no reason to vote for something that's fair for the whole group. They'll vote in their best interest, which means many people are going to vote for something that isn't necessarily correct or fair to everyone, only themselves. I totally understand you're trying to satisfy the most number of people possible but voting isn't the correct solution. With 4 options, I fear that order number is going to get a large chunk of the votes with the rest split among the others, allowing that option to win. RNG is essentially split in two options as well which means it's basically not going to win. The vote as of now, should be 3 options. Order #, shipping form order, or RNG. Not two different versions of RNG.
I'm not saying RNG is the best solution here. However, it's more of a fair solution than shipping form or order number.
The whole situation is really unfortunate, and I'm sorry you have to deal with these issues but if shipping form order or order # is the method of case selection, I honestly believe that's only making things worse.
That's right !
That's easy for me to say that because if we follow the list of order or shipping, I am gonna get one of the worst case.
But still, the list method is unfair. I paid as much as the other. There was a long time between first payment and shipping invoice. There is period in life when I can spend an hour per day on keyboard website and other time I work too much for that. I didn't subscribe to this thread because I didn't want to be spammed but you could have send at least one private message or an email as an alert for shipping invoice instead of a simple post here.
Random is the less bad solution.
Post by: Fictiouz on Wed, 12 July 2017, 05:49:22
If you pay attention to choice 4 though I think it's the happy medium since we were informed that shipping invoice would effect ship order. Choice 4, rng cases separately then ship based on shipping order, allows them to be shipped in the order at which shipping invoices were paid but this does not effect the group as a whole as the cases itself will be distributed independently of the shipping order. Fair in my mind and the most unbiased way.I'm sorry you have to deal with this but I really want to get my 2 cents in before everyone votes.
I don't think shipping form order would really be fair. In fact, I think letting people choose cases for any reason is really unfair. Why should filling out the shipping form grant any advantages when everyone joined the same group buy? People joined with the understanding that every case would be more or less the same. Because a user filled out a shipping form a few hours/days before it even mattered shouldn't get them a better case. User X fills out the shipping form a week before you get the cases. User Y fills out the shipping form two days before you get the cases. In this situation user X will receive a better case. Does that seem right? You might as well let people choose cases based off of something just as arbitrary, like number of times they used the letter 'f' in their post history.
Original order number doesn't really make sense to me either. Perhaps I'm mistaken but as I recall, the group buy had no problem filling spots, so it's not like the people that signed up earlier were trying to support something that might not happen. Perhaps if people had been reluctant to order an X60 and the buy had trouble reaching MOQ would original order number make sense. But it didn't, right? In fact isn't it quite the opposite? People wanted in but there weren't enough slots? I apologize if I'm wrong here.
Are you really okay with having the person that ordered last get the worst case, even though they paid the same amount and they were not aware at the time of ordering that their order number mattered?
I also disagree with the voting system. People will typically have no reason to vote for something that's fair for the whole group. They'll vote in their best interest, which means many people are going to vote for something that isn't necessarily correct or fair to everyone, only themselves. I totally understand you're trying to satisfy the most number of people possible but voting isn't the correct solution. With 4 options, I fear that order number is going to get a large chunk of the votes with the rest split among the others, allowing that option to win. RNG is essentially split in two options as well which means it's basically not going to win. The vote as of now, should be 3 options. Order #, shipping form order, or RNG. Not two different versions of RNG.
I'm not saying RNG is the best solution here. However, it's more of a fair solution than shipping form or order number.
The whole situation is really unfortunate, and I'm sorry you have to deal with these issues but if shipping form order or order # is the method of case selection, I honestly believe that's only making things worse.
That's right !
That's easy for me to say that because if we follow the list of order or shipping, I am gonna get one of the worst case.
But still, the list method is unfair. I paid as much as the other. There was a long time between first payment and shipping invoice. There is period in life when I can spend an hour per day on keyboard website and other time I work too much for that. I didn't subscribe to this thread because I didn't want to be spammed but you could have send at least one private message or an email as an alert for shipping invoice instead of a simple post here.
Random is the less bad solution.
The only downside is that this would require two parts therefore possibly longer lead time. Organise RNG then ship in order.
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Post by: GlassGate on Wed, 12 July 2017, 06:35:55
Post by: fendent on Wed, 12 July 2017, 07:40:54
I'm sorry you have to deal with this but I really want to get my 2 cents in before everyone votes.
I don't think shipping form order would really be fair. In fact, I think letting people choose cases for any reason is really unfair. Why should filling out the shipping form grant any advantages when everyone joined the same group buy? People joined with the understanding that every case would be more or less the same. Because a user filled out a shipping form a few hours/days before it even mattered shouldn't get them a better case. User X fills out the shipping form a week before you get the cases. User Y fills out the shipping form two days before you get the cases. In this situation user X will receive a better case. Does that seem right? You might as well let people choose cases based off of something just as arbitrary, like number of times they used the letter 'f' in their post history.
Original order number doesn't really make sense to me either. Perhaps I'm mistaken but as I recall, the group buy had no problem filling spots, so it's not like the people that signed up earlier were trying to support something that might not happen. Perhaps if people had been reluctant to order an X60 and the buy had trouble reaching MOQ would original order number make sense. But it didn't, right? In fact isn't it quite the opposite? People wanted in but there weren't enough slots? I apologize if I'm wrong here.
Are you really okay with having the person that ordered last get the worst case, even though they paid the same amount and they were not aware at the time of ordering that their order number mattered?
I also disagree with the voting system. People will typically have no reason to vote for something that's fair for the whole group. They'll vote in their best interest, which means many people are going to vote for something that isn't necessarily correct or fair to everyone, only themselves. I totally understand you're trying to satisfy the most number of people possible but voting isn't the correct solution. With 4 options, I fear that order number is going to get a large chunk of the votes with the rest split among the others, allowing that option to win. RNG is essentially split in two options as well which means it's basically not going to win. The vote as of now, should be 3 options. Order #, shipping form order, or RNG. Not two different versions of RNG.
I'm not saying RNG is the best solution here. However, it's more of a fair solution than shipping form or order number.
The whole situation is really unfortunate, and I'm sorry you have to deal with these issues but if shipping form order or order # is the method of case selection, I honestly believe that's only making things worse.
Is there nothing to be said for people who followed this buy since it was an IC? Sat there waiting on the form to open to get into the group buy from the ground floor? Or the people who helped to pay for the protos? Diligently kept tabs on the buy as it progressed and filled out forms as soon as they arrived?
Yes, just about everyone paid the same but many people did more than pay the purchase price. I don't think RNG is particularly fair. Not for the people who provided capital for the protos or those in Founders Edition, anyway.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:02:23
I don't think shipping form order would really be fair. In fact, I think letting people choose cases for any reason is really unfair. Why should filling out the shipping form grant any advantages when everyone joined the same group buy? People joined with the understanding that every case would be more or less the same. Because a user filled out a shipping form a few hours/days before it even mattered shouldn't get them a better case. User X fills out the shipping form a week before you get the cases. User Y fills out the shipping form two days before you get the cases. In this situation user X will receive a better case. Does that seem right? You might as well let people choose cases based off of something just as arbitrary, like number of times they used the letter 'f' in their post history.
I don't think shipping order is the best but I'm still having it as an option because it's what I've been saying I'd do for a while. I disagree with it because people would've filled it out and paid in a different order if they knew it impacted their case.
Original order number doesn't really make sense to me either. Perhaps I'm mistaken but as I recall, the group buy had no problem filling spots, so it's not like the people that signed up earlier were trying to support something that might not happen. Perhaps if people had been reluctant to order an X60 and the buy had trouble reaching MOQ would original order number make sense. But it didn't, right? In fact isn't it quite the opposite? People wanted in but there weren't enough slots? I apologize if I'm wrong here.
It's the most fair, non-random way to do it. Someone that joined on day 1 should have priority over someone that joined on day 365. It would suck if someone that joined yesterday got a good case and someone that joined on day 1 and got the worst case. That wouldn't make sense, and wouldn't be fair overall.
Are you really okay with having the person that ordered last get the worst case, even though they paid the same amount and they were not aware at the time of ordering that their order number mattered?
I'm not okay with it, but how else do I do it? It's why I'm letting people choose instead of me.
I also disagree with the voting system. People will typically have no reason to vote for something that's fair for the whole group. They'll vote in their best interest, which means many people are going to vote for something that isn't necessarily correct or fair to everyone, only themselves. I totally understand you're trying to satisfy the most number of people possible but voting isn't the correct solution. With 4 options, I fear that order number is going to get a large chunk of the votes with the rest split among the others, allowing that option to win. RNG is essentially split in two options as well which means it's basically not going to win. The vote as of now, should be 3 options. Order #, shipping form order, or RNG. Not two different versions of RNG.
Of course they'll vote in their best interest. It's the fairest way of doing anything where a group of people need to come to a decision. We'll see what the end result is, but it would be the option that people vote the most for. No one is more important than anyone else in this, which is why 1 vote per person is exactly fair.
Where can I see my order number?
There used to be a list right?
Not sure why you need your order number as the forms require your invoice number. You can find it here:
Xondat, do you mind elaborating on this?
What is there to elaborate on? Not sure what answer you're looking for here.
I pm'd you on geekhack and sent you an email on the one you provided after the major update asking if I can have my spot refunded or put for sale. I have yet to get a response on either medias for just over a week now and just received your pm on "X60 Case Distribution" form. I was told if I post on the forum I might be able to get answers here.
Your spot was listed for sale, but if it doesn't sell, then I still need to ship the board to you as you're still part of the overall group of people with a paid slot.
Post by: mesteris on Wed, 12 July 2017, 13:32:23
I guess I understand the following the IC and paying for the prototype view. I myself had to sell some things to get the capital for the buy so I couldn't have joined at the ground floor so the order # option feels a little sour to me. Either way, hopefully we can make the best of a bad situation.
In any case, I really hope if RNG gets a decent chunk of votes, the two options will have a runoff vote.
Thanks for addressing my post and I wish you luck in handling this.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 July 2017, 12:49:32
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 13 July 2017, 14:14:24
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 July 2017, 14:23:33
When could we expect the poll results?
Most have voted, we're waiting for a total of 8 people to vote 11 times (between them). Out of the 8 polls, only 1 has been decided and that group has been contacted. The 7 remaining polls can still have their results changed. I want to get this wrapped up and get a lot out Monday so if they haven't voted very soon then it's likely they've missed their chance. They've been emailed and PM'd so hopefully their choice won't go unheard.
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:30:10
I was just wondering why you initially wanted to reanodize dark grey but then later said it wouldn't fix anything.
I am also wondering about this.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 13 July 2017, 15:40:10
I was just wondering why you initially wanted to reanodize dark grey but then later said it wouldn't fix anything.
I am also wondering about this.
Initially it was "reanodize everything", but after talking to the anodizing place and doing as much research as I can, there would be no point risking a worse finish as it won't magically clean up the scratches that are deeper than the anodizing. Reanodizing would cover up the, as I refer to them, white scratches, but they wouldn't work well on black scratches as they're under the anodizing.
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 13 July 2017, 16:30:52
Post by: Khers on Sat, 15 July 2017, 02:11:02
Post by: ipreferpie on Sat, 15 July 2017, 05:53:15
Post by: PriusProblems on Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:11:34
Would someone like to fill me in on why the manufacturer is not liable for not following the same specification? "Ignoring a request" certainly puts them at blame, I know for a fact that the workshop I previously worked in would have had to re-make every piece out of their own pocket if they made such a "decision". The fact that it sounds as if no sample parts were produced before main production began also surprises me, especially with a run this large. Similarly, the statement "All parts have been affected by poor manufacturing and no quality control" heavily implies that numerous other falsities were made by the manufacturer, since I'm sure that they would not have been selected for production if they stated that from the outset. I thought that this manufacturer had previously been used for another group buy (successfully? I cannot find where I originally read this), what gives with this one? They were tasked with producing cases sold for $350 per unit, IMO they should be perfect. I've skimmed through the replies since the original update, and there seems to be remarkably little discussion about this.
Please note that I would like to retain my spot, and have paid the shipping invoice as a reflection of this. Like many others in this group buy, I am upset about what has transpired, and would want to view photographs of all damage to my case before I accept it.
Xondat, you have my fullest sympathies, and I am willing to wait as long as it takes to get a pristine-as-possible X60.
Post by: fendent on Sat, 15 July 2017, 13:23:11
So I've just come back from taking a break from GH for work, and then a holiday, and this has gone from "cases are messed up, delays whilst they are fixed" to "cases are being shipped in damaged condition, lets work out who gets the least damaged". I was under the impression that I was paying for a case of the specification listed in the original post, in which "scratched/damaged" is not mentioned.
Would someone like to fill me in on why the manufacturer is not liable for not following the same specification? "Ignoring a request" certainly puts them at blame, I know for a fact that the workshop I previously worked in would have had to re-make every piece out of their own pocket if they made such a "decision". The fact that it sounds as if no sample parts were produced before main production began also surprises me, especially with a run this large. Similarly, the statement "All parts have been affected by poor manufacturing and no quality control" heavily implies that numerous other falsities were made by the manufacturer, since I'm sure that they would not have been selected for production if they stated that from the outset. I thought that this manufacturer had previously been used for another group buy (successfully? I cannot find where I originally read this), what gives with this one? They were tasked with producing cases sold for $350 per unit, IMO they should be perfect. I've skimmed through the replies since the original update, and there seems to be remarkably little discussion about this.
Please note that I would like to retain my spot, and have paid the shipping invoice as a reflection of this. Like many others in this group buy, I am upset about what has transpired, and would want to view photographs of all damage to my case before I accept it.
Xondat, you have my fullest sympathies, and I am willing to wait as long as it takes to get a pristine-as-possible X60.
Prototypes were produced but as is the case I've often found, the shop took shortcuts on the production run. They have essentially declined to work any of this out and have denied responsibility. If you have a black or purple case, there may be a possibility of reanodizing. Right now people are voting on which order or method assignment of cases will take place. In my situation, I will likely be getting mine refinished whatever the outcome.
Post by: wodan on Tue, 18 July 2017, 08:14:55
(http://i.imgur.com/MF5Tcac.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yIEtXF9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NXFsgwW.jpg)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 18 July 2017, 10:04:39
Both of them look pretty much flawless except for one dent/scratch on one of the corners.
Sorry for the bad pics, was in a rush...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/4887bd33166da3ae5b1b2661017b542a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/795b57da799d2baf776800b7d4450a08.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170718/4a7bc890480ff43d54cb4e3ebf3e340b.jpg)
Post by: doom2 on Tue, 18 July 2017, 10:10:11
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 18 July 2017, 13:00:29
Post by: Khers on Tue, 18 July 2017, 15:54:02
When building my board, I had an issue fitting my GON NerD PCB. I did a quick comparison with a WKL I had at home and it seems the USB-port on the GON extends further from the main of the PCB causing it to have some issues clearing the bridge above the USB cut out. A little bit of determination allowed me to brute force it in, however. Could be good to know for those of you who plan on building your X60 with a NerD.
All in all, very happy with how it looks. A bit dark outside, but here are two shots of my build:
(http://i.imgur.com/muHSyko.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oDMQzEp.jpg)
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 18 July 2017, 16:52:39
I also received mine today! Very satisfied with how it turned out. As a matter of fact, if there hadn't been this whole ano debacle, I'd probably not noticed the few defects there are.
When building my board, I had an issue fitting my GON NerD PCB. I did a quick comparison with a WKL I had at home and it seems the USB-port on the GON extends further from the main of the PCB causing it to have some issues clearing the bridge above the USB cut out. A little bit of determination allowed me to brute force it in, however. Could be good to know for those of you who plan on building your X60 with a NerD.
All in all, very happy with how it looks. A bit dark outside, but here are two shots of my build:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/muHSyko.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oDMQzEp.jpg)
Going to be using a NerD60 PCB with mine also.
Hope it's not too much of a pain.
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 18 July 2017, 16:58:40
Post by: ramnes on Tue, 18 July 2017, 17:12:41
I also received mine today! Very satisfied with how it turned out. As a matter of fact, if there hadn't been this whole ano debacle, I'd probably not noticed the few defects there are.
When building my board, I had an issue fitting my GON NerD PCB. I did a quick comparison with a WKL I had at home and it seems the USB-port on the GON extends further from the main of the PCB causing it to have some issues clearing the bridge above the USB cut out. A little bit of determination allowed me to brute force it in, however. Could be good to know for those of you who plan on building your X60 with a NerD.
All in all, very happy with how it looks. A bit dark outside, but here are two shots of my build:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/muHSyko.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oDMQzEp.jpg)
Nice, bud. Did you mod the nixies?
Post by: SixtyLife on Tue, 18 July 2017, 17:17:13
I also received mine today! Very satisfied with how it turned out. As a matter of fact, if there hadn't been this whole ano debacle, I'd probably not noticed the few defects there are.
When building my board, I had an issue fitting my GON NerD PCB. I did a quick comparison with a WKL I had at home and it seems the USB-port on the GON extends further from the main of the PCB causing it to have some issues clearing the bridge above the USB cut out. A little bit of determination allowed me to brute force it in, however. Could be good to know for those of you who plan on building your X60 with a NerD.
All in all, very happy with how it looks. A bit dark outside, but here are two shots of my build:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/muHSyko.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oDMQzEp.jpg)
wowow looking good man!
Post by: oatmicro on Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:15:27
Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:28:50
I really want mine now, Hurry up Dark grey HHKB people!!+1
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:55:14
Post by: seblove on Tue, 18 July 2017, 21:13:28
I really want mine now, Hurry up Dark grey HHKB people!!+1
Don't worry boys I'm f5'ing like a motherfkr and it'll take me about 3 minutes to choose when my turn comes around.
Post by: Khers on Wed, 19 July 2017, 00:37:09
wowow looking good man!Thanks!
Nice, bud. Did you mod the nixies?They got 60g gold springs, polycarbonate switch films and some Krytox. Stock is too heavy for my puny fingers.
My second plate was going to go with a nerd, thanks for the heads up.
Going to be using a NerD60 PCB with mine also.I got a little worried when it wouldn't just fit, and was considering my options for a while. In the end though, it was nothing major. A little bit of force and it slided right in ;D
Hope it's not too much of a pain.
Post by: cicada on Wed, 19 July 2017, 03:17:22
It appears to me that the ones who keep talking **** about X60 on discord and reddit are the people who have nothing to do with the group buy.
Post by: Razer1987 on Wed, 19 July 2017, 06:51:05
I had 3 possible cases (does the number of the case reflect the quality ?) and I have to say that I was really surprised by the damages that appear not as bad as expected. I am still waiting to see it in real.
It was really expensive so we wanted perfection but I am pretty sure that it is gonna still be a great case.
Post by: Malenky on Wed, 19 July 2017, 20:07:02
Post by: Myan on Thu, 20 July 2017, 08:53:53
Thanks alot. Love you!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/6e4cc304b071419df23ccfe5005e1ada.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/e735a1f7ae4297367ae4663a9b94bdd5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/561fc7f934af88da977b1c0ca625d225.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170720/5666338b1ac3e4e5dd51480ece9b698f.jpg)
Post by: doom2 on Thu, 20 July 2017, 13:15:05
Slots for sale:
Please email support@noxary.co in the following format:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MfyHpWn.png)
Subject:
X60 BUY SLOT ___
Body:
PayPal Email
Country to ship to
Geekhack username
Each slot has a 5% handling fee due to PayPal fees. Shipping will be invoiced separately. Prices USD.
Format for the slots:
- Type
- Case Top/Color
- Plates(s)
- PCBMoreSlot 111 - $450
- Carbon 05/10
- HHKB Black
- ANSI Carbon/ANSI Carbon
- No PCB
Slot 112 - $410
- Standard
- HHKB Gold
- ANSI Gold
- PCB
Slot 113 - $370
- Standard
- HHKB Black
- ANSI Red/ANSI Black
- No PCB
Slot 114 - $410
- Standard
- 60% Black
- ANSI Stainless Steel
- PCB
If your spot isn't listed, it's probably sold but I don't have the funds due to two people disputing (2 of 4 slots they had are still for sale). As slots are sold, the next person in line receives theirs. Once all of these have sold, everyone should have their refund.
These spots are still for sale! Help me get my refund!
Post by: eat_the_food on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:39:53
(http://i.imgur.com/tpWG81Q.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BCZdrKm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3bUd21j.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S31FdLq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NBHA2d0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uqrHOqR.jpg)
Aside from a touch of exposure correction these photos are unedited. Board is near perfect.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:47:16
MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/oq0gKlS.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tpWG81Q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BCZdrKm.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3bUd21j.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/S31FdLq.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NBHA2d0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uqrHOqR.jpg)
Aside from a touch of exposure correction these photos are unedited. Board is near perfect.
I didn't have time to take photos today, but completely agree. I have some anodizing marks, but hardly anything to cause a stink over. The aluminum is in near perfect condition as far as I can tell. I have nothing bad to say.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:48:10
Post by: ramnes on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:03:13
(http://i.imgur.com/nA3uY8z.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/iOE7PCo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9S225Nw.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/YHLxPJJ.jpg)
Congrats Xondat. :thumb:
Post by: Malenky on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:05:53
Post by: Fictiouz on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:11:49
Loving all these build pictures rolling in now that everyone is receiving their boards. Xondat has definitely been an absolute perfectionist, because, by the looks of things, the finishing issues are reported to be extremely minor. Hyped for Wodan's build video!This. Xondat had me way to worried, but my God he apparently is just crazy picky with QA. All said and done the boards are beautiful. Can't wait to have mine in hand.
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Post by: fendent on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:30:03
(http://i.imgur.com/WnuAIC2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y6fwqk9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JidL3dS.jpg)
Amazing job, xondat. Thanks for all the hard work! Looking forward to your next projects. Everything is more than I could have hoped for and the end result was more than worth the wait.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 20 July 2017, 18:37:54
I'll have to look it over better tonight when I get time.
Thanks Xondat :)
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 20 July 2017, 19:39:12
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 20 July 2017, 20:16:31
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 20 July 2017, 21:39:29
(http://i.imgur.com/mkDIUhU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ezdBYWz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZtBEdas.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CC1LXjg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ya3DKDN.jpg)
Post by: Sent on Fri, 21 July 2017, 01:06:34
Post by: vegs on Fri, 21 July 2017, 02:04:43
I was starting to regret choosing HHKB after seeing all the nice non-blocked cases, but god damn this looks so goodShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Lmnlhod.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WnuAIC2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y6fwqk9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JidL3dS.jpg)
Amazing job, xondat. Thanks for all the hard work! Looking forward to your next projects. Everything is more than I could have hoped for and the end result was more than worth the wait.
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 21 July 2017, 02:58:18
awesome blossom.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mkDIUhU.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ezdBYWz.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZtBEdas.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CC1LXjg.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ya3DKDN.jpg)
What a nice combo man
Post by: R4WBIT on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:03:53
Post by: fendent on Fri, 21 July 2017, 13:54:06
Anyone else has a problem fitting Zeal Stabilizers?
How so? I'm using them with no problem. They're PCB mount so make sure you're not plate mounting. :p
Post by: R4WBIT on Fri, 21 July 2017, 14:10:37
Anyone else has a problem fitting Zeal Stabilizers?
How so? I'm using them with no problem. They're PCB mount so make sure you're not plate mounting. :p
I know :D
I think the problem for me is how deep the "screws" should go into the spacebar.
I feel like I have a bit left before they sit right, but if I push them up, the pins won't go in their holes.
Also, should the clips be on top be inside or below the hole?
Post by: henz on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:14:21
(http://i.imgur.com/OQo807y.jpg)
Post by: Gatix on Sat, 22 July 2017, 09:30:31
Post by: clasicks on Sat, 22 July 2017, 09:40:40
put mine together today.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OQo807y.jpg)
great choices all around, really like this board and build.
Post by: henz on Sun, 23 July 2017, 14:56:12
Post by: ntw on Sun, 23 July 2017, 23:27:37
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 23 July 2017, 23:48:38
are the edges connecting the top and bottom pieces chamfered?
look flat in the pictures
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 24 July 2017, 00:32:00
Post by: henz on Mon, 24 July 2017, 16:31:52
Those interested in using tmk firmware with the bface pcb provided by xondat, can find it here:
https://github.com/ageaenes/tmk_keyboard/ cudos to luizribeiro for getting the mini to work wit tmk.
in order to get the pcb into boot mode, i had to create a manual left shift shorter by not having a left shift(hhkb)
(http://i.imgur.com/4W8iEHV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LOLcuIP.jpg)
hopes this were to some help for someone :) if you have any questions, feel free to pm.
Post by: Razer1987 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:11:16
I've just received my case. The damage is really minor so I am really happy.
But right now I feel really stupid. I start my build. And I have a major issue with 6.25 spacebar, the pcb mount cherry stabilizer doesn't fit. It is too large for the cutout on the ISO universal plate.
There is no indication on the first post. But does this plate supposed to be used with plate mount stab ???
I've never saw plate mount stab so I am not good to recognize the right cutout.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:20:38
Hi,Did you put the stabilizer on the pcb before you started putting switches and the plate over the pcb?
I've just received my case. The damage is really minor so I am really happy.
But right now I feel really stupid. I start my build. And I have a major issue with 6.25 spacebar, the pcb mount cherry stabilizer doesn't fit. It is too large for the cutout on the ISO universal plate.
There is no indication on the first post. But does this plate supposed to be used with plate mount stab ???
I've never saw plate mount stab so I am not good to recognize the right cutout.
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Post by: limitz on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:40:33
Assuming you've soldered everything, you *might* be able to get away with using screw-in stabilizers without desoldering (probably not though, just throwing an option out there). I do not believe the plate is made to fit plate mount stabilizers.
If screw-in stabilizers don't work, I don't know what to tell you besides desoldering everything to install the stabilizers on the PCB.
Post by: Tally810 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:41:50
To clarify Tally's statement - PCB mount stabilizers need to be installed before the plate is installed - otherwise it will not fit.This is what I was trying to say thanks for clarifying limitz
Assuming you've soldered everything, you *might* be able to get away with using screw-in stabilizers without desoldering (probably not though, just throwing an option out there). I do not believe the plate is made to fit plate mount stabilizers.
If screw-in stabilizers don't work, I don't know what to tell you besides desoldering everything to install the stabilizers on the PCB.
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Post by: Razer1987 on Mon, 24 July 2017, 17:48:39
The 7u spacebar with PCB mount stab work fine but the right stab doesn't fit well for the 6.25u spacebar. I really have to force it to make it fit. I am afraid it will be too tight to let the stab work properly.
I tried costar stab (plate mount) and it works.
Xondat, does the cutout supposed to work with pcb mount cherry stab ?
Thanks
Post by: Rayoui on Mon, 24 July 2017, 20:45:55
I didn't solder just try to fit everything before. So I put it on the PCB and then I try to put the plate on it (not my first build, I am used to 60% PCB and universal plate for "classic" case).
The 7u spacebar with PCB mount stab work fine but the right stab doesn't fit well for the 6.25u spacebar. I really have to force it to make it fit. I am afraid it will be too tight to let the stab work properly.
I tried costar stab (plate mount) and it works.
Xondat, does the cutout supposed to work with pcb mount cherry stab ?
Thanks
Sounds to me like you just need to get a 6.25u stabilizer wire.
Post by: Razer1987 on Tue, 25 July 2017, 02:56:32
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_759544IMG20170725082355797.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=759544IMG20170725082355797.jpg)
It is an original Cherry pcb stab to fit inside this hole i had to force it into and i loose plastic on the side of the stab.
I also have a steel plate and it is much harder to fit it into. I loose a generous slice of plastic...
I also have more rigid transparent stab and it is impossible to fit them into even if they have the same size as Cherry ones. The plastic of the cherry is more flexible.
I guess this cutout need an extra mm or an half mm.
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 25 July 2017, 04:25:33
Picture will be easier to understand than my bad english.
(https://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_759544IMG20170725082355797.jpg) (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=759544IMG20170725082355797.jpg)
It is an original Cherry pcb stab to fit inside this hole i had to force it into and i loose plastic on the side of the stab.
I also have a steel plate and it is much harder to fit it into. I loose a generous slice of plastic...
I also have more rigid transparent stab and it is impossible to fit them into even if they have the same size as Cherry ones. The plastic of the cherry is more flexible.
I guess this cutout need an extra mm or an half mm.
I had similar issues with plated that I've cut in the past using swills tool output. The actual size of stabiliser housings tend to vary a bit from batch to batch. You're better off either sanding the plate or the stab body slightly
Post by: MMKB on Wed, 26 July 2017, 22:26:43
Post by: briannnn on Wed, 26 July 2017, 22:39:35
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
I had the same problem with one of my screws. I went to Home Depot and got this thing called Easy Out or something. They are designed to fix this problem. In theory, you screw it into the top of the socket and it grips the screw and then you unscrew it. But it didn't really work for me. I could have been using it wrong for all I know because I have zero experience with stuff like this. What ended up working is I found a torx driver that was just barely (BARELY) slightly bigger than the sockets and hammered it in and used that to unscrew it. I think the size was T10. Hope that helps! Replacement screws are M3 since you're going to need those as well, and I also found those in the bins at Home Depot.
Post by: MMKB on Wed, 26 July 2017, 23:15:16
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
I had the same problem with one of my screws. I went to Home Depot and got this thing called Easy Out or something. They are designed to fix this problem. In theory, you screw it into the top of the socket and it grips the screw and then you unscrew it. But it didn't really work for me. I could have been using it wrong for all I know because I have zero experience with stuff like this. What ended up working is I found a torx driver that was just barely (BARELY) slightly bigger than the sockets and hammered it in and used that to unscrew it. I think the size was T10. Hope that helps! Replacement screws are M3 since you're going to need those as well, and I also found those in the bins at Home Depot.
Thank you! I'll check out the speed out/easy out/screw extractor they offer. I managed to press hard and unscrew the penultimate one so could still use some help.
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 23:28:17
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
Don't know how well it'll work with a hex head, but you could try putting a thin rubber band in between the driver and the head of the screw to pad out the sizing and add some grip.
Post by: fendent on Thu, 27 July 2017, 00:16:30
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
I had the same problem with one of my screws. I went to Home Depot and got this thing called Easy Out or something. They are designed to fix this problem. In theory, you screw it into the top of the socket and it grips the screw and then you unscrew it. But it didn't really work for me. I could have been using it wrong for all I know because I have zero experience with stuff like this. What ended up working is I found a torx driver that was just barely (BARELY) slightly bigger than the sockets and hammered it in and used that to unscrew it. I think the size was T10. Hope that helps! Replacement screws are M3 since you're going to need those as well, and I also found those in the bins at Home Depot.
Thank you! I'll check out the speed out/easy out/screw extractor they offer. I managed to press hard and unscrew the penultimate one so could still use some help.
Fwiw these are notoriously a crapshoot and pretty much very lucky to get working right.
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 27 July 2017, 23:40:25
(http://i.imgur.com/PkusZOi.jpg)
Built my board and just wanted to say thanks for the great work Xondat. And I'm guessing there will be a new extra plate form since a lot has changed since the first one went out. When should we expect the new form and will it have the same options for plates as the initial form?
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 28 July 2017, 00:10:57
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aqMdSWX.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PkusZOi.jpg)
Built my board and just wanted to say thanks for the great work Xondat. And I'm guessing there will be a new extra plate form since a lot has changed since the first one went out. When should we expect the new form and will it have the same options for plates as the initial form?
What PCB did you end up using?
Post by: NolaSwag on Fri, 28 July 2017, 13:49:17
Quote
What PCB did you end up using?
Black FaceW PCB - I had no problems during the build, worked perfectly!
Post by: PriusProblems on Sat, 29 July 2017, 08:26:09
Post by: digisax on Sat, 29 July 2017, 13:10:07
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 29 July 2017, 13:29:28
I have a Blue FaceW PCB as a backup if I have any problems with my NerD60.Quote
What PCB did you end up using?
Black FaceW PCB - I had no problems during the build, worked perfectly!
Post by: GlassGate on Sat, 29 July 2017, 14:52:41
Anyone know if there are any hhkb slots left? I know I'm late but it can't hurt to ask.
Yes, my spot is available. Though I am not sure where it's listed right now. The case is silver the plate is red and has a pcb and of course hhkb layout
Edit : sorry the case is already a refunded spot, sorry
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 29 July 2017, 16:53:15
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
Are you trying to use an inch series hex wrench to undo a metric bolt? That would be why you're having difficulties. Go buy yourself a set of metric hex wrench, they are cheap as chips. IIRC Xondat uses M3 socket head bolts for this case.
A cursory Amazon search yields a few thousand applicable results. This is one random listing from the big results page: https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-Wrench-Metric-13-Piece-25272/dp/B00I5THFR4/ref=sr_1_3?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1501365099&sr=1-3&keywords=metric+allen+wrench+set
Post by: PriusProblems on Mon, 31 July 2017, 07:03:21
Anyone know if there are any hhkb slots left? I know I'm late but it can't hurt to ask.My silver HHKB with gold plate is available.
Post by: jessica on Mon, 31 July 2017, 14:20:00
Post by: brighenne on Mon, 31 July 2017, 16:01:31
(https://i.imgur.com/bz6qQAd.jpg)
Post by: Doluded on Mon, 31 July 2017, 16:46:32
I forgot to post my completed board here. Looks like I've got a new favorite.God DAMNShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/bz6qQAd.jpg)
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 31 July 2017, 16:51:25
I forgot to post my completed board here. Looks like I've got a new favorite.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bz6qQAd.jpg)
Sonofa- that may be the X60 leader in the clubhouse... stunning board!!
Post by: mindxthinker on Mon, 31 July 2017, 21:05:33
I forgot to post my completed board here. Looks like I've got a new favorite.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bz6qQAd.jpg)
That's hot!
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 31 July 2017, 21:55:07
Only wish I had bought more than one now :P
Post by: Fausuto on Mon, 31 July 2017, 22:54:16
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Post by: Fictiouz on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:23:08
X60:
- Zeal60 PCB
- Krytox GPL205 Lubed 67g Zealios
- Zeal Stabs
- Zealencios
- GMK Hydro
- HWS Creamsicle Skulthulhu
Finished Photo:
(http://i.imgur.com/klNK70A.jpg)
Build log inside:
More
C'mon xondat you had one job:
(http://i.imgur.com/P300HAf.jpg)
Side 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/LYHGU3L.jpg)
Side 2:
(http://i.imgur.com/G49hMw3.jpg)
The Goods:
(http://i.imgur.com/56Uy7Wz.jpg)
Stab Prep:
(http://i.imgur.com/RwrJJsW.jpg)
Almost there:
(http://i.imgur.com/AANKPP9.jpg)
Soldering:
(http://i.imgur.com/77hDGbl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YD6eLhf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tb8CxMV.jpg)
Nudes:
(http://i.imgur.com/oODeEVU.jpg)
Lingerie?
(http://i.imgur.com/YC8tW6B.jpg)
Dat ass:
(http://i.imgur.com/0CV5plR.jpg)
RGB for good measure?:
(http://i.imgur.com/5L6sDVk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/P300HAf.jpg)
Side 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/LYHGU3L.jpg)
Side 2:
(http://i.imgur.com/G49hMw3.jpg)
The Goods:
(http://i.imgur.com/56Uy7Wz.jpg)
Stab Prep:
(http://i.imgur.com/RwrJJsW.jpg)
Almost there:
(http://i.imgur.com/AANKPP9.jpg)
Soldering:
(http://i.imgur.com/77hDGbl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YD6eLhf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tb8CxMV.jpg)
Nudes:
(http://i.imgur.com/oODeEVU.jpg)
Lingerie?
(http://i.imgur.com/YC8tW6B.jpg)
Dat ass:
(http://i.imgur.com/0CV5plR.jpg)
RGB for good measure?:
(http://i.imgur.com/5L6sDVk.jpg)
Post by: Robotical on Tue, 01 August 2017, 20:22:13
Board arrived today and board was built today. So happy with it and the defects were a little over exaggerated IMO, but what can you do. :))
X60:
- Zeal60 PCB
- Krytox GPL205 Lubed 67g Zealios
- Zeal Stabs
- Zealencios
- GMK Hydro
- HWS Creamsicle Skulthulhu
Finished Photo:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/klNK70A.jpg)
Build log inside:MoreC'mon xondat you had one job:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/P300HAf.jpg)
Side 1:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LYHGU3L.jpg)
Side 2:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G49hMw3.jpg)
The Goods:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/56Uy7Wz.jpg)
Stab Prep:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RwrJJsW.jpg)
Almost there:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AANKPP9.jpg)
Soldering:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/77hDGbl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YD6eLhf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tb8CxMV.jpg)
Nudes:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oODeEVU.jpg)
Lingerie?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YC8tW6B.jpg)
Dat ass:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0CV5plR.jpg)
RGB for good measure?:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5L6sDVk.jpg)
Amazing build. And nice Skullthulu choice.
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 01 August 2017, 22:31:59
tbh there is more actual scratch & dings on my Fjell compared to the X60.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Wed, 02 August 2017, 02:49:01
Post by: PriusProblems on Wed, 02 August 2017, 08:23:15
These X60 build look amazing, wish I could have one myself.
If £££ is not the issue, my spot is currently for sale.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Wed, 02 August 2017, 09:22:21
Which one do you have and do you overcharge?These X60 build look amazing, wish I could have one myself.
If £££ is not the issue, my spot is currently for sale.
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 02 August 2017, 09:27:29
Which one do you have and do you overcharge?These X60 build look amazing, wish I could have one myself.
If £££ is not the issue, my spot is currently for sale.
The top of the original post has all the slots available.
Post by: vegs on Wed, 02 August 2017, 13:08:57
(http://i.imgur.com/zUyAwK2.jpg)
- GON Nerd60 PCB
- MX Silents with 52g springs, sips, polycarb stickers and Superlube PTFE oil
- Warm white leds
- Cherry stabs clipped, lubed with Krytox GPL205, bandaided
- GMK 9009
- Pexon cable
Full buildlog here (http://imgur.com/a/x6WiT).
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:13:23
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 02 August 2017, 14:37:43
Got my board a couple of days ago. Super happy with mine!:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zUyAwK2.jpg)
- GON Nerd60 PCB
- MX Silents with 52g springs, sips, polycarb stickers and Superlube PTFE oil
- Warm white leds
- Clipped, lubed with Krytox GPL205, bandaided Cherry stabs
- GMK 9009
- Pexon cable
Full buildlog here (http://imgur.com/a/x6WiT).
Post by: theillumedpanda on Wed, 02 August 2017, 15:44:58
Got my board a couple of days ago. Super happy with mine!This looks incredibly nice. Which colour is that? It's really tempting to buy one, I have to admit. QC and the prodcut itself seems to be top-notch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zUyAwK2.jpg)
- GON Nerd60 PCB
- MX Silents with 52g springs, sips, polycarb stickers and Superlube PTFE oil
- Warm white leds
- Clipped, lubed with Krytox GPL205, bandaided Cherry stabs
- GMK 9009
- Pexon cable
Full buildlog here (http://imgur.com/a/x6WiT).
Post by: vegs on Wed, 02 August 2017, 16:00:24
Thanks! Dark grey. I was one of the last ones to pick and the scratches are incredibly minor.Got my board a couple of days ago. Super happy with mine!This looks incredibly nice. Which colour is that? It's really tempting to buy one, I have to admit. QC and the prodcut itself seems to be top-notch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zUyAwK2.jpg)
- GON Nerd60 PCB
- MX Silents with 52g springs, sips, polycarb stickers and Superlube PTFE oil
- Warm white leds
- Clipped, lubed with Krytox GPL205, bandaided Cherry stabs
- GMK 9009
- Pexon cable
Full buildlog here (http://imgur.com/a/x6WiT).
Post by: lishi on Wed, 02 August 2017, 17:39:56
Finished building my Dark Gray HHKB:
(http://i.imgur.com/SXo9J7m.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RSJoINt.jpg)
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 02 August 2017, 18:06:11
(https://media.tenor.com/images/08bb608b865137fd30aa3130aad70d67/tenor.gif)
Finished building my Dark Gray HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SXo9J7m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RSJoINt.jpg)
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 02 August 2017, 23:36:29
GLHF.
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 03 August 2017, 00:18:02
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I ran into that issue too, but I was able to kind of... jam it in without too much trouble. Photato: [attach=1]
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 03 August 2017, 00:27:20
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I ran into that issue too, but I was able to kind of... jam it in without too much trouble. Photato: (Attachment Link)
Are you using Rev2? If you did that's pretty ballsy.
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 03 August 2017, 00:37:26
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I ran into that issue too, but I was able to kind of... jam it in without too much trouble. Photato: (Attachment Link)
Are you using Rev2? If you did that's pretty ballsy.
Yep, brand new Rev2. If you look at the USB connector while fitting the case together, you can see it's only a millimeter or two that it needs nudged to clear the hole so the case fits together, and once it's clear it fits fine without any stress on the pcb at all. I've swapped plates a couple times now and as long as I'm conscious of it while assembling, it doesn't worry me really at all.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Thu, 03 August 2017, 01:58:23
Hmm, Dark Grey is probably my favourite colour.Thanks! Dark grey. I was one of the last ones to pick and the scratches are incredibly minor.Got my board a couple of days ago. Super happy with mine!This looks incredibly nice. Which colour is that? It's really tempting to buy one, I have to admit. QC and the prodcut itself seems to be top-notch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zUyAwK2.jpg)
- GON Nerd60 PCB
- MX Silents with 52g springs, sips, polycarb stickers and Superlube PTFE oil
- Warm white leds
- Clipped, lubed with Krytox GPL205, bandaided Cherry stabs
- GMK 9009
- Pexon cable
Full buildlog here (http://imgur.com/a/x6WiT).
What numpad is that? These X60 photos are so tempting.Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I ran into that issue too, but I was able to kind of... jam it in without too much trouble. Photato: (Attachment Link)
Wew, beautiful. What keycaps are those?
Finished building my Dark Gray HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SXo9J7m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RSJoINt.jpg)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 03 August 2017, 03:15:46
What numpad is that? These X60 photos are so tempting.
Wew, beautiful. What keycaps are those?
Looks like a Revo Numpad, the keycaps are an old Desko set (unclear if it's from a Desko board or a BSP set)
Post by: oatmicro on Thu, 03 August 2017, 07:15:49
The only issue of this GB is xondat' perfectionist.
just like that.
Post by: lishi on Thu, 03 August 2017, 10:49:27
Wew, beautiful. What keycaps are those?
Finished building my Dark Gray HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SXo9J7m.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RSJoINt.jpg)
OG Desko and Originative GMK CMYK
Post by: lishi on Thu, 03 August 2017, 10:50:48
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I also had this issue wth Zeal60 Rev.1 as well. I was able to assemble the case by not using the two plate screws in the top left hand corner (near the usb port). Obviously, not an ideal solution but it works
Post by: megaforce on Thu, 03 August 2017, 10:58:44
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I also had this issue wth Zeal60 Rev.1 as well. I was able to assemble the case by not using the two plate screws in the top left hand corner (near the usb port). Obviously, not an ideal solution but it works
Hmm interesting, does that plate flap around or no when you hit the keys near that corner?
Edit: Thanks for the suggestion! I used some VHB type to counter the slight flapping from ESC to 3 key and it did the job :)
Post by: lishi on Thu, 03 August 2017, 11:40:13
Word of advice: Avoid using zeal60 Rev2 if you don't wanna mill/dremel your USB port. The connector placement on the PCB interferes with the usb port cuttout on the bottom piece of the case.
GLHF.
I also had this issue wth Zeal60 Rev.1 as well. I was able to assemble the case by not using the two plate screws in the top left hand corner (near the usb port). Obviously, not an ideal solution but it works
Hmm interesting, does that plate flap around or no when you hit the keys near that corner?
Edit: Thanks for the suggestion! I used some VHB type to counter the slight flapping from ESC to 3 key and it did the job :)
I dont' feel any flapping around, but I also have the very unique issue of one of my screws breaking inside the screw hole so I dont really have the option of opening it up again
I dont feel any flex with my steel plate at all though, so that's good
Post by: theillumedpanda on Thu, 03 August 2017, 15:59:20
Post by: beamingrobot on Thu, 03 August 2017, 18:41:34
Post by: seblove on Sun, 06 August 2017, 15:27:13
[attach=1][attach=2]
Post by: jessica on Sun, 06 August 2017, 15:52:55
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sun, 06 August 2017, 16:02:04
Had some time to build this guy up!! Went for something a little different; ISO layout and lubed zealiostotles. This thing is CRAZY to type on and apparently very loud and annoying for my teammates over discord ;D. Even more excited for the brass plate to pair with my zeal60 whenever it's available. Also, like everyone else, my case is near-perfect aside from a surface scratch that can only be seen if you angle it against the light and really look for it. Thanks again Xondat, you did an excellent job.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Mine got built on Friday, forgot to post pics until now.Stunning. This looks super cool! I guess this confirms that I have to look further for a Dark Grey HHKB X60! Did you encounter any issues with the Zeal60 like previously mentioned?
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Post by: jessica on Sun, 06 August 2017, 16:50:25
Funny you mention the PCB. I had to cut the usb port hole on the X60 to let the PCB actually fit LOLHad some time to build this guy up!! Went for something a little different; ISO layout and lubed zealiostotles. This thing is CRAZY to type on and apparently very loud and annoying for my teammates over discord ;D. Even more excited for the brass plate to pair with my zeal60 whenever it's available. Also, like everyone else, my case is near-perfect aside from a surface scratch that can only be seen if you angle it against the light and really look for it. Thanks again Xondat, you did an excellent job.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Mine got built on Friday, forgot to post pics until now.Stunning. This looks super cool! I guess this confirms that I have to look further for a Dark Grey HHKB X60! Did you encounter any issues with the Zeal60 like previously mentioned?
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 06 August 2017, 21:10:48
Love to see all the stunning x60 builds =)
On a side note, have all boards been shipped Xon?
I missed the deadline for choosing my 3rd board and didn't receive neither shipping confirmation or board.
No pressure just want to make sure it's all good
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 06 August 2017, 22:11:11
Funny you mention the PCB. I had to cut the usb port hole on the X60 to let the PCB actually fit LOLHad some time to build this guy up!! Went for something a little different; ISO layout and lubed zealiostotles. This thing is CRAZY to type on and apparently very loud and annoying for my teammates over discord ;D. Even more excited for the brass plate to pair with my zeal60 whenever it's available. Also, like everyone else, my case is near-perfect aside from a surface scratch that can only be seen if you angle it against the light and really look for it. Thanks again Xondat, you did an excellent job.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Mine got built on Friday, forgot to post pics until now.Stunning. This looks super cool! I guess this confirms that I have to look further for a Dark Grey HHKB X60! Did you encounter any issues with the Zeal60 like previously mentioned?
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Should have read what I posted a few days ago.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 06 August 2017, 22:30:46
Keep the buildlogs coming guys!
Love to see all the stunning x60 builds =)
On a side note, have all boards been shipped Xon?
I missed the deadline for choosing my 3rd board and didn't receive neither shipping confirmation or board.
No pressure just want to make sure it's all good
I know of at least 2 people who have yet to receive shipping notices.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sun, 06 August 2017, 23:16:38
Alright. That's a shame to hear.Funny you mention the PCB. I had to cut the usb port hole on the X60 to let the PCB actually fit LOLHad some time to build this guy up!! Went for something a little different; ISO layout and lubed zealiostotles. This thing is CRAZY to type on and apparently very loud and annoying for my teammates over discord ;D. Even more excited for the brass plate to pair with my zeal60 whenever it's available. Also, like everyone else, my case is near-perfect aside from a surface scratch that can only be seen if you angle it against the light and really look for it. Thanks again Xondat, you did an excellent job.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)Mine got built on Friday, forgot to post pics until now.Stunning. This looks super cool! I guess this confirms that I have to look further for a Dark Grey HHKB X60! Did you encounter any issues with the Zeal60 like previously mentioned?
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Just read my last sentence again: [...] like previously mentioned. That one says that I've read what you guys posted about the Zeal60 issue.Funny you mention the PCB. I had to cut the usb port hole on the X60 to let the PCB actually fit LOLHad some time to build this guy up!! Went for something a little different; ISO layout and lubed zealiostotles. This thing is CRAZY to type on and apparently very loud and annoying for my teammates over discord ;D. Even more excited for the brass plate to pair with my zeal60 whenever it's available. Also, like everyone else, my case is near-perfect aside from a surface scratch that can only be seen if you angle it against the light and really look for it. Thanks again Xondat, you did an excellent job.
[attach=1][attach=2]Mine got built on Friday, forgot to post pics until now.Stunning. This looks super cool! I guess this confirms that I have to look further for a Dark Grey HHKB X60! Did you encounter any issues with the Zeal60 like previously mentioned?
Dark gray HHKB X60, R1 Zeal60, R4 67g lubed Zeals, R1 Zeal stabs, Sky Dolch (Plum later today) and a Booper Silver Linings cap.
Love it
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qGYKKc9.jpg)
Should have read what I posted a few days ago.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 07 August 2017, 12:31:04
Keep the buildlogs coming guys!
Love to see all the stunning x60 builds =)
On a side note, have all boards been shipped Xon?
I missed the deadline for choosing my 3rd board and didn't receive neither shipping confirmation or board.
No pressure just want to make sure it's all good
I know of at least 2 people who have yet to receive shipping notices.
Thanks man!
Was slightly concerned, since my other boards arrived within one day.
Post by: lishi on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:02:49
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:10:23
I'd like to know since this GB should already have been over for me.
Post by: smittysteve on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:12:16
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:
Thanks for sharing- that sounds really nice and quiet.
Curious- how does the bottom-out feel on them... solid or a little squishy?
Post by: seblove on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:15:54
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:
That sounds really nice and relaxing, perfect for the office. How'd you source the switches?
Post by: lishi on Tue, 08 August 2017, 13:24:28
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:
That sounds really nice and relaxing, perfect for the office. How'd you source the switches?
I was able to get some through mechanicalkeyboards.com when they were in stock a few months ago. I believe there's a GB running for the Black MX Silents right now at Novelkeys
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:Thanks for sharing- that sounds really nice and quiet.Curious- how does the bottom-out feel on them... solid or a little squishy?
I quite like the bottom out, they're not squishy -- just dampened
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 08 August 2017, 14:27:39
If anyone was wondering how quiet MX Silents are, I took a video of a typing test with my 62g lubed MX Silents in my X60:
What... I barely heard anything. This would be perfect for someone who needs quiet keyboard.
Post by: pvd on Sun, 13 August 2017, 22:06:57
Post by: axtran on Sun, 13 August 2017, 23:54:49
I quite like the bottom out, they're not squishy -- just dampened
I ran a direct comparison, and although I do love the MX Silents, using QMX Clips on PCB Mount Blacks (I don't have the Plate Mount ones) are a better feeling, IMO.
Post by: vegs on Tue, 15 August 2017, 03:54:37
Any timeline on shipment for the rest of the boards? Can't wait for mine!Should be getting close at this point. xondat saving post his #3000 for "all shipped"? :cool: :p
Post by: xQv on Thu, 17 August 2017, 20:50:45
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 21 August 2017, 17:31:38
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
[update] I will post on Craigslist to see if I can find someone to fix it.
Really sad that this isn't going to be my end-game board. It's the perfect form factor for me and I really hoped I could build it for the past year. I was not able to extract the screw myself and hoped to pay someone local who has more experience dealing with hardware issues. I'd imagine the last resort would be just drilling a hole. But I've got other priorities in life so I have to stop trying at this point. If nobody thinks they can fix it, it will end up being a switch tester/keycap gallery here.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 21 August 2017, 17:33:37
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
I'm letting go of my X60 with one stripped screw. There will be a WTS post tonight with a proper timestamp.
Really sad that this isn't going to be my end-game board. It's the perfect form factor for me and I really hoped I could build it for the past year. I was not able to extract the screw myself and hoped to pay someone local who has more experience dealing with hardware issues. I'd imagine the last resort would be just drilling a hole. But I've got other priorities in life so I have to stop trying at this point. If nobody thinks they can fix it, it will end up being a switch tester/keycap gallery here.
Have you actually stripped the bolthead or no?
Post by: Robotical on Tue, 22 August 2017, 08:18:18
My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
[update] I will post on Craigslist to see if I can find someone to fix it.I'm letting go of my X60 with one stripped screw. There will be a WTS post tonight with a proper timestamp.
Really sad that this isn't going to be my end-game board. It's the perfect form factor for me and I really hoped I could build it for the past year. I was not able to extract the screw myself and hoped to pay someone local who has more experience dealing with hardware issues. I'd imagine the last resort would be just drilling a hole. But I've got other priorities in life so I have to stop trying at this point. If nobody thinks they can fix it, it will end up being a switch tester/keycap gallery here.
Can you by any chance provide some pictures of the screws that are stripped?
Post by: vegs on Tue, 22 August 2017, 14:59:41
I can try and help you. Are you on slack?My heart sunk when I couldn't unscrew the last two bolts. Both have a slightly bigger holes so my screwdriver just can't do anything. Now my X60 is just a beautiful kit that I can't open up. I might look for other screwdrivers in my local bike shop but I don't have other solutions I can think of. Any help would be appreciated. :( :( :(
[update] I will post on Craigslist to see if I can find someone to fix it.I'm letting go of my X60 with one stripped screw. There will be a WTS post tonight with a proper timestamp.
Really sad that this isn't going to be my end-game board. It's the perfect form factor for me and I really hoped I could build it for the past year. I was not able to extract the screw myself and hoped to pay someone local who has more experience dealing with hardware issues. I'd imagine the last resort would be just drilling a hole. But I've got other priorities in life so I have to stop trying at this point. If nobody thinks they can fix it, it will end up being a switch tester/keycap gallery here.
Post by: SixtyLife on Wed, 23 August 2017, 19:30:34
(http://i.imgur.com/snoNJyC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mGOTvYl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zHe3wD5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8KNhEb0.jpg)
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 23 August 2017, 22:02:32
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 24 August 2017, 01:40:08
Nice! Don't see dolch on too many boards these days. Any chance you want to part with that 1u 0-key? :D
sorry man, don't wanna split up the set :(
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 11:52:39
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.
(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:41:47
So far it feels great. Put lubed 62g vintage blacks in.
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Looks great man. Not too difficult but I had to carefully angle and massage in the FaceW USB port in as well. For future design, it might be better to allow a drop in for the usb port instead of threading the port into the case usb slot.
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:49:44
(http://i.imgur.com/InbmM0U.jpg)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:15:13
slight change to the layout. love this board!!! once again, excellent work XondatShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/InbmM0U.jpg)
Looks terrific.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 24 August 2017, 23:06:12
So far it feels great. Put lubed 62g vintage blacks in.
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Looks great man. Not too difficult but I had to carefully angle and massage in the FaceW USB port in as well. For future design, it might be better to allow a drop in for the usb port instead of threading the port into the case usb slot.
Thanks. I thought I read a few posts back that someone used a FaceW PCB with no problems?
Post by: NolaSwag on Fri, 25 August 2017, 00:07:14
So far it feels great. Put lubed 62g vintage blacks in.
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Looks great man. Not too difficult but I had to carefully angle and massage in the FaceW USB port in as well. For future design, it might be better to allow a drop in for the usb port instead of threading the port into the case usb slot.
Thanks. I thought I read a few posts back that someone used a FaceW PCB with no problems?
I used it for my build, taken it in and out with no issues! Just have to angle it downwards when putting it in but I never had to force anything.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 25 August 2017, 00:21:46
So far it feels great. Put lubed 62g vintage blacks in.
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Looks great man. Not too difficult but I had to carefully angle and massage in the FaceW USB port in as well. For future design, it might be better to allow a drop in for the usb port instead of threading the port into the case usb slot.
Thanks. I thought I read a few posts back that someone used a FaceW PCB with no problems?
I used it for my build, taken it in and out with no issues! Just have to angle it downwards when putting it in but I never had to force anything.
Thanks. I know I almost gave up on the NerD60 going in. If it hadn't been for someone saying that they successfully forced one in I would have given up.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 25 August 2017, 00:38:41
So far it feels great. Put lubed 62g vintage blacks in.
I had the same fitment problem with my NerD60 PCB. Had to push uncomfortably hard to get in to place (Hope it's not going to be too much of pain to get it out).
I will be using a FaceW PCB next time.
Tried to take some pictures during the day today, but it's been storming :(
And of course some specs of dust got on the bezel.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aPwi1U4.jpg)
Looks great man. Not too difficult but I had to carefully angle and massage in the FaceW USB port in as well. For future design, it might be better to allow a drop in for the usb port instead of threading the port into the case usb slot.
Thanks. I thought I read a few posts back that someone used a FaceW PCB with no problems?
I read that as well but wasn't the case for me. if the usb port on the pcb was even just a half a mm lower it woulda been no problem.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 28 August 2017, 06:06:46
What is the issue with shipping the remaining boards?
Can we get an eta on when those will be shipped pls?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:15:13
Still haven't recieved my 3rd board.
What is the issue with shipping the remaining boards?
Can we get an eta on when those will be shipped pls?
My friends who I mentioned had not gotten shipping confirmation in this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82729.msg2471166#msg2471166) are also still waiting.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:25:26
Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:19:10
(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:
(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Post by: NolaSwag on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:07:01
Going to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Two questions:
1. The plate only covers modifiers not alphas?
2. Is it clear or slightly frosted?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: xondat on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:10:02
MoreGoing to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Two questions:
1. The plate only covers modifiers not alphas?
2. Is it clear or slightly frosted?
Thanks in advance!
- Covers all keys, please see the 3rd picture in the post for the plates.
- Clear like the 1st/2nd pictures.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 29 August 2017, 20:15:23
Post by: exanile_tabasco on Wed, 30 August 2017, 03:17:09
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Post by: vegs on Wed, 30 August 2017, 04:57:51
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 30 August 2017, 06:27:04
Still haven't recieved my 3rd board.
What is the issue with shipping the remaining boards?
Can we get an eta on when those will be shipped pls?
My friends who I mentioned had not gotten shipping confirmation in this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82729.msg2471166#msg2471166) are also still waiting.
Any news on the boards that have yet to be sent out? I think most people would appreciate a run of pc plates but only after they actually get their boards. Is anyone else's board afflicted with the stripped bolts issue and is still awaiting shipping?
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Post by: fendent on Wed, 30 August 2017, 10:16:12
The 1st pics in xondat's post are of ROTB's TGR plates, NOT xondat's plates.
He already said this?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 30 August 2017, 10:31:33
The 1st pics in xondat's post are of ROTB's TGR plates, NOT xondat's plates.
He already said this?
I thought it was obvious, but doesn't hurt to ask I suppose.
Still haven't recieved my 3rd board.
What is the issue with shipping the remaining boards?
Can we get an eta on when those will be shipped pls?
Any news on the boards that have yet to be sent out? I think most people would appreciate a run of pc plates but only after they actually get their boards. Is anyone else's board afflicted with the stripped bolts issue and is still awaiting shipping?
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Well you've both been emailed before these comments, and both went ignored so... Please email me (support@noxary.co) and I can give a personal update on your boards.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 30 August 2017, 19:40:54
And sorry didn't catch it, old email address...
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 04 September 2017, 00:44:55
MoreGoing to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Two questions:
1. The plate only covers modifiers not alphas?
2. Is it clear or slightly frosted?
Thanks in advance!
- Covers all keys, please see the 3rd picture in the post for the plates.
- Clear like the 1st/2nd pictures.
Which one is suitable for WKL?
Post by: poolside on Mon, 04 September 2017, 01:43:41
MoreGoing to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Two questions:
1. The plate only covers modifiers not alphas?
2. Is it clear or slightly frosted?
Thanks in advance!
- Covers all keys, please see the 3rd picture in the post for the plates.
- Clear like the 1st/2nd pictures.
Which one is suitable for WKL?
Both seem to support the WKL bottom row, but the HHKB one has support for split backspace and split right shift only.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 04 September 2017, 01:46:07
MoreGoing to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)
Prices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:
https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Two questions:
1. The plate only covers modifiers not alphas?
2. Is it clear or slightly frosted?
Thanks in advance!
- Covers all keys, please see the 3rd picture in the post for the plates.
- Clear like the 1st/2nd pictures.
Which one is suitable for WKL?
Both seem to support the WKL bottom row, but the HHKB one has support for split backspace and split right shift only.
Thanks.
Post by: poolside on Mon, 04 September 2017, 17:51:40
Post by: xondat on Fri, 15 September 2017, 22:35:20
Going to be doing a small run of polycarbonate plates. I won't be making any additional plates so these will be the last opportunity. They will be made at the same place as Riotonthebay's Jane plates and will look like such:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JTLpRXl.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RJOGBBg.jpg)
There will be two layouts, HHKB, and ANSI:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XMWp0KT.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6diLMF7.png)MorePrices/MOQ are as follows:
HHKB:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
ANSI:
- 5 - $50.00
- 10 - $36.25
- 20 - $26.50
This includes fees but not shipping. Shipping is about $15 for CONUS, and will change depending on distance. A US proxy wouldn't save enough to be worth it.
Please fill out this form if you'd like to join:https://goo.gl/forms/AqEOMapSrME06qZA3
I'll keep people up to date on MOQs etc. I'll leave this open for a week and may extend if required. I'll invoice at the end of this period.
I also have 3 remaining universal Carbon Fiber plates for sale, $50 each. These are no longer limited to Carbon Editions, so if you have an X60, you can get one. Please PM me if you're interested.
Thanks.
Ended up having 5 spare HHKB ($36.25) and 3 spare ANSI ($50). Please PM me if you'd still like to join the small buy as they're still in production. I also have 1 last universal carbon fiber plate for $50; again please PM. Thanks.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 26 September 2017, 10:37:00
I should have the polycarbonate plates in a week or so. I have 3 spare of each, PM me if you'd like to buy in.
Edit: Update on PC plates this week (10/2).
Post by: dhw on Sat, 07 October 2017, 20:38:43
Post by: slushi on Sun, 08 October 2017, 00:01:24
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 October 2017, 00:44:14
I'm looking for a brass hhkb plate if those were made. Sorry I wasn't here for the group buy but tried to read through the thread. Also if anyone has another hhkb version for sale, let me know. Thanks!
I haven't made any brass plates.
Generally:
I have a Gold HHKB for sale with ANSI Gold plate & PCB for sale, PM me if you're interested.
Post by: slushi on Sun, 08 October 2017, 00:50:52
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 October 2017, 00:52:48
Once I sell all these polycarbonate plates, I'll look into brass plates. I will need to sell all the PC plates as I don't want spare stuff hanging around.
Post by: slushi on Sun, 08 October 2017, 00:54:06
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 08 October 2017, 09:34:28
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:19:35
Each time I see an update on this thread I remember how nice would have been to be in this GB and have a nice black X60 .... This is one of the finest 60% cases ever made :thumb:
Thanks :-* Hopefully I can do it quicker next time I visit 60%.
Post by: oatmicro on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:26:13
Slot sold!Each time I see an update on this thread I remember how nice would have been to be in this GB and have a nice black X60 .... This is one of the finest 60% cases ever made :thumb:
Thanks :-* Hopefully I can do it quicker next time I visit 60%.
hmmmm so... we're going to get round 2 in the future then
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXv2pwGp_a87MotXmJrNvdg7odrf0bp5839wG_MYcAuCesnbtL0g)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 08 October 2017, 10:27:38
Slot sold!Each time I see an update on this thread I remember how nice would have been to be in this GB and have a nice black X60 .... This is one of the finest 60% cases ever made :thumb:
Thanks :-* Hopefully I can do it quicker next time I visit 60%.
hmmmm so... we're going to get round 2 in the future thenShow Image(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXv2pwGp_a87MotXmJrNvdg7odrf0bp5839wG_MYcAuCesnbtL0g)
If by round 2 you mean V2, then quite possibly.
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 October 2017, 13:12:41
Once all these have sold, I'll most likely do a small run of brass plates.
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 11 October 2017, 14:07:30
Due to a quantity mix up with the polycarbonate plates, I now have 10 additional ANSI plates. I have 13 total, and these will be $36.25 each. Please PM me if you're interested.
Once all these have sold, I'll most likely do a small run of brass plates.
Any idea how much the Brass plates are going to go for?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 11 October 2017, 14:08:49
Due to a quantity mix up with the polycarbonate plates, I now have 10 additional ANSI plates. I have 13 total, and these will be $36.25 each. Please PM me if you're interested.
Once all these have sold, I'll most likely do a small run of brass plates.
Any idea how much the Brass plates are going to go for?
I imagine around $30.
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 12 October 2017, 11:52:34
(https://i.imgur.com/0qzeUtn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CvF7GAn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZYTmlVQ.jpg)
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 12 October 2017, 17:54:46
Rebuilt my X60 today.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0qzeUtn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CvF7GAn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZYTmlVQ.jpg)
Kailh box blacks. Would be very interested if you can post a typing video of it.
Post by: vegs on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:14:12
Bumping with a picture of my board :cool:
Post by: Waateva on Thu, 19 October 2017, 08:49:10
Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4450/23903452388_f7ca8f80bc_k.jpg)
Bumping with a picture of my board :cool:
Just bootyful
Post by: xondat on Mon, 23 October 2017, 12:48:11
(https://i.imgur.com/aGA5dbB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m26QqvD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3L8KZR4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6o0EzsC.jpg)
I'll be contacting people that've already bought some later tonight.
I have 10 spare ANSI plates, so PM if you'd like to buy.
Going to be building this on Wednesday so I'll give my impressions on feel then :D
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 23 October 2017, 12:52:43
Polycarbonate plates are in, they turned out pretty well and look cool.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aGA5dbB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m26QqvD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3L8KZR4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6o0EzsC.jpg)
I'll be contacting people that've already bought some later tonight.
I have 10 spare ANSI plates, so PM if you'd like to buy.
Going to be building this on Wednesday so I'll give my impressions on feel then :D
oh damn no kidding
that's sweet
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 23 October 2017, 19:22:18
Polycarbonate plates are in, they turned out pretty well and look cool.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aGA5dbB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m26QqvD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3L8KZR4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6o0EzsC.jpg)
I'll be contacting people that've already bought some later tonight.
I have 10 spare ANSI plates, so PM if you'd like to buy.
Going to be building this on Wednesday so I'll give my impressions on feel then :D
🔥🔥🔥
Should have gotten an X60, I'm such an idiot
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 23 October 2017, 22:32:49
Post by: yuppie on Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:36:33
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:45:36
Polycarbonate plates are in, they turned out pretty well and look cool.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aGA5dbB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/m26QqvD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3L8KZR4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6o0EzsC.jpg)
I'll be contacting people that've already bought some later tonight.
I have 10 spare ANSI plates, so PM if you'd like to buy.
Going to be building this on Wednesday so I'll give my impressions on feel then :D
🔥🔥🔥
Should have gotten an X60, I'm such an idiot
It's a fantastic board tbh. Regret selling mine (HHKB style just felt too cramped for me).
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 24 October 2017, 20:34:45
If anyone wants to sell a dark grey X60 HHKB let me know!
Ditto, any color works.
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 January 2018, 19:56:00
Thinking of doing a small run of some brass plates. I can get some done locally for about $30 a plate, unsure on finish (I think just raw). Turn around would be extremely quick, maybe a week for production.
Will be the style of the bottom plate here:
(https://i.imgur.com/q4XK7vh.png)
Will support these layouts:
(https://i.imgur.com/cHmIjrV.png)
If you're interested, let me know! :p
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:29:12
Also want to take the chance to thank the folks who helped me with the stripped screw.
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Post by: seblove on Tue, 09 January 2018, 15:32:33
Post by: dhw on Tue, 09 January 2018, 15:36:31
Post by: olivia on Tue, 09 January 2018, 15:42:54
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Tue, 09 January 2018, 18:34:04
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 09 January 2018, 21:55:30
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Post by: xondat on Tue, 09 January 2018, 22:34:33
Is there a spreadsheet somewhere that’d show how many WKL models were made? Getting a growing urge to find one of those beauties :eek:
Split was 60/20/20 60%/HHKB/WKL.
Personally would say wait for V2 (or join the mini run) ;)
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 09 January 2018, 22:53:33
Thanks for the support all. Will probably get 10-15 ordered in a couple of weeks.Is there a spreadsheet somewhere that’d show how many WKL models were made? Getting a growing urge to find one of those beauties :eek:
Split was 60/20/20 60%/HHKB/WKL.
Personally would say wait for V2 (or join the mini run) ;)
awwyiss :thumb:
Post by: poolside on Wed, 10 January 2018, 02:18:27
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 03:14:56
Thanks for the support all. Will probably get 10-15 ordered in a couple of weeks.Is there a spreadsheet somewhere that’d show how many WKL models were made? Getting a growing urge to find one of those beauties :eek:
Split was 60/20/20 60%/HHKB/WKL.
Personally would say wait for V2 (or join the mini run) ;)
Mini run..? :o
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Post by: dgneo on Wed, 10 January 2018, 09:55:52
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4534/26909961809_8bcbed10b9_o.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4731/27489774219_6ac19043b7_o.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/37798188015_b7f271555c_o.jpg)
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 10 January 2018, 12:54:16
Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/26909964279_3ee671ef49_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4534/26909961809_8bcbed10b9_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4731/27489774219_6ac19043b7_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/37798188015_b7f271555c_o.jpg)
That is hawwwwt sir! Makes me want to add a WKL to my collection...
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:36:21
Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/26909964279_3ee671ef49_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4534/26909961809_8bcbed10b9_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4731/27489774219_6ac19043b7_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/37798188015_b7f271555c_o.jpg)
That is hawwwwt sir! Makes me want to add a WKL to my collection...
I want one, cause they DO look amaze, but I just can't bring myself to do it when I know I'd never be able to use it lol.
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:44:26
Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/26909964279_3ee671ef49_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4534/26909961809_8bcbed10b9_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4731/27489774219_6ac19043b7_o.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/37798188015_b7f271555c_o.jpg)
Thanks for the drooling material. These are the pics that got me interested in the WKL model in the first place.. ;)
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Post by: xondat on Thu, 11 January 2018, 22:49:20
This is the brass plate I'll be running shortly. Will put a form up to purchase in the next few days :-*
For anyone still looking for an X60 to buy, keep up to date on my Instagram for the mini-run (https://www.instagram.com/p/BdosdZJhkUZ) :)
Post by: vegs on Fri, 12 January 2018, 06:47:15
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 12 January 2018, 06:48:23
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VGh0ASt.png)
This is the brass plate I'll be running shortly. Will put a form up to purchase in the next few days :-*
yes pls
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 12 January 2018, 07:03:44
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VGh0ASt.png)
This is the brass plate I'll be running shortly. Will put a form up to purchase in the next few days :-*
For anyone still looking for an X60 to buy, keep up to date on my Instagram for the mini-run (https://www.instagram.com/p/BdosdZJhkUZ) :)
Don't have instagram account, but I will be refreshing your page *quite regularly* from now on.. ;)
Post by: vegs on Sun, 14 January 2018, 06:40:35
I also cleaned the weight a bit.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/38785957745_96fcc8efe0_k.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/38785955735_21e02c7b19_k.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/38785952265_83fd71e28b_k.jpg)
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 14 January 2018, 10:29:01
Rebuilt my X60 with polycarbonate plate with 60g silents ;D
I also cleaned the weight a bit.Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/38785957745_96fcc8efe0_k.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/38785955735_21e02c7b19_k.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/38785952265_83fd71e28b_k.jpg)
Hows the PC plate vs metal?
Post by: vegs on Sun, 14 January 2018, 10:42:14
It's a very different typing experience. Bottoming out is much softer, and some of the sound gets dampened by the plate. I originally built it with silents on a steel plate which was a bad combo for me because of the harsh bottoming out feel.Rebuilt my X60 with polycarbonate plate with 60g silents ;D
I also cleaned the weight a bit.Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4745/38785957745_96fcc8efe0_k.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4655/38785955735_21e02c7b19_k.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/38785952265_83fd71e28b_k.jpg)
Hows the PC plate vs metal?
I'm in the process of building my second PC plate with vintage blacks and I'm curious to see how the difference is with those. Vintage black is my go-to switch, and I've used those with most common plate materials, so it will be interesting to see how it compares to brass for example.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 January 2018, 13:00:58
I don't think there is interest for that quantity at that price so going to put this on hold for now & focus on other stuff (unless demand presents itself here).
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 16 January 2018, 13:03:27
Unfortunately the local place is quoting $38 @ 20.
I don't think there is interest for that quantity at that price so going to put this on hold for now & focus on other stuff (unless demand presents itself here).
FWIW I'd be in for one at that price.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 January 2018, 13:09:38
Please fill this form out with the amount you'd buy. If the quantity there gets close to 20 over the next few days, I'll run it :)
https://goo.gl/forms/cjqp3eaItYEP3CtM2
12 hour update: 9 so far.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 20 January 2018, 10:03:00
Post by: xondat on Sat, 03 February 2018, 21:59:06
Please consider voting for him! Link to thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87762).
Let me know if you've voted for him, might organize something fun ;)
Post by: Captain Shwah on Sat, 03 February 2018, 23:12:42
Khers' X60 is up in the voting for Keyboard of the Year :eek:
Please consider voting for him! Link to thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87762).
Let me know if you've voted for him, might organize something fun ;)
;)
Post by: Khers on Sun, 04 February 2018, 05:19:09
Khers' X60 is up in the voting for Keyboard of the Year :eek::thumb:
Please consider voting for him! Link to thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87762).
Let me know if you've voted for him, might organize something fun ;)
Post by: NolaSwag on Mon, 05 February 2018, 15:00:38
Khers' X60 is up in the voting for Keyboard of the Year :eek:
Please consider voting for him! Link to thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87762).
Let me know if you've voted for him, might organize something fun ;)
Voted!
Post by: pexon on Mon, 05 February 2018, 15:10:56
(https://i.imgur.com/ZfWnp3v.jpg)
Post by: D3avy on Sat, 10 February 2018, 06:13:49
If anyone is willing to part with their HHKB version, please shoot me a message ;)
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 February 2018, 17:09:00
The first ALPS X60 I do believe :-XShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZfWnp3v.jpg)
That looks amazing, man. I sure wish I could get my hands on some good alps, preferably orange. I mean, I'd pay handsomely, but I just don't see any available.
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 18 February 2018, 01:09:39
Okay opinions from a few suggest that's fine.
Please fill this form out with the amount you'd buy. If the quantity there gets close to 20 over the next few days, I'll run it :)
https://goo.gl/forms/cjqp3eaItYEP3CtM2
12 hour update: 9 so far.
Is the brass plate still being considered? I believe that I submitted too?
Post by: xondat on Sun, 18 February 2018, 07:46:36
Okay opinions from a few suggest that's fine.
Please fill this form out with the amount you'd buy. If the quantity there gets close to 20 over the next few days, I'll run it :)
https://goo.gl/forms/cjqp3eaItYEP3CtM2
12 hour update: 9 so far.
Is the brass plate still being considered? I believe that I submitted too?
Unfortunately not.
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 22 February 2018, 15:35:25
Is the brass plate still being considered? I believe that I submitted too?
Unfortunately not.
:( Alright. Anyone with an extra plate for sale please let me know.
Post by: xondat on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:11:55
Is the brass plate still being considered? I believe that I submitted too?
Unfortunately not.
:( Alright. Anyone with an extra plate for sale please let me know.
I still have 8 or so spare ANSI HHKB Polycarbonate :-*