[GB] Noxary X60 V1

[aaron6301]

I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides.

Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.



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[xondat]

Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.

I meant the spacing of the text, as the NOXARY is more spaced out compared to the other text.

[FoC_Tow]

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This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.

I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.

Glad to see an update on the weight design! =)

I'm sorry to bring this up, but to be perfectly honest I'm not a fan of the font used and the way it's layed out tho.

I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.

Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.

To me it looks like a pretty square logo slapped in the middle of the rather long weight.


Just my two cents of course, so if no one shares my opinion I'm ok with that.
Not trying to cause trouble here just my honest opinion.

Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.

[aaron6301]

Are you referring to the padding around the X60 branding or the positioning of the branding. Of its the prior, yes, I think the padding around X60 should be identical on both sides. If you're referring to the positioning, an offset X60 logo will look odd without the text on the left.

I meant the spacing of the text, as the NOXARY is more spaced out compared to the other text.

I think the letter spacing is ok, I would however change the font weight of "NOXARY". Perhaps add a little weight to emphasize the branding.

If changing the font weight is out of the question, then yes, unify the letter spacing.

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[Jemaunji]

I think that weight design looks clean.

[logomachy]

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This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.

I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.

Glad to see an update on the weight design! =)

I'm sorry to bring this up, but to be perfectly honest I'm not a fan of the font used and the way it's layed out tho.

I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.

Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.

To me it looks like a pretty square logo slapped in the middle of the rather long weight.


Just my two cents of course, so if no one shares my opinion I'm ok with that.
Not trying to cause trouble here just my honest opinion.

Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.

I agree. Off center bottom logo.
Maybe left aligned inside text without variable spacing.
And LIMITED EDITION OF 100 imo

[xondat]

I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.

If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.

I agree. Off center bottom logo.
Maybe left aligned inside text without variable spacing.

As above, a crappy paint mockup would help here in visualizing it.

I think the letter spacing is ok, I would however change the font weight of "NOXARY". Perhaps add a little weight to emphasize the branding.

Got it - good idea.

[Damonskv]

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This is the layout I'm going to stick with. I think I'm going to have the spacing matched for the inner engravings, and make sure the X60 is identical on both sides. Obviously it's a mockup so it's slightly wonky. Also not sure on whether it should be "Limited to 100" or "Limited to 100 cases", so comment on that too.

I'm going to have each design prototyped and shipped with all parts and then approve the full production instead of taking the gamble and hoping it looks nice. Unfortunately this will push it into shipping next year, which is obviously a disappointment, but I don't want to screw this up. Thanks for the continued support and patience.

man, thanks for hard work for community 

Can I make a small suggestion?
For my it seems to me a little unnatural arrangement of the font stretched vertically on such big horisontal space, it may cost a little stretch horizontally?

[FoC_Tow]

I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.

If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.

Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was refering to. 

[DALExSNAIL]

I think a slightly wider an less tall font would work a lot better with the width of the weight, especially on the bottom side aswell as look more aesthetically pleasing overall.
Imo placing the logo off center on the bottom following the golden cut/ratio could improve things aswell.
Incase it's appreciated I would gladly create a mockup of what I'm imagining in terms of layout.

If you could demonstrate this in paint or something, that'd be great. Not too sure what you are going for, but it's certainly not the direction I'm taking it.

Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was refering to. 

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Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.

Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.

[FoC_Tow]

Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.

Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.

The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned aswell.

Heres a centered version for refference

[Fictiouz]

When do you expect to see a final prototype of the weight xondat?

[pace8500]

Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.

Only thing im worried about is the increased time. Xond spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. Im a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.

The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned aswell.

Heres a centered version for refference

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Great work with the mock ups but I much prefer the original font to this. It has something distinctive about it that I like.

[xondat]

Sure! Here's a quick and dirty mockup, to illustrate what I was referring to. 

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Unfortunately to some, the font isn't going to change. The things that can change is the weight, the spacing, and the layout of the text. I'm not a fan of the offset X60, it just looks out of place and holds no purpose. Thanks for the mockups.

Can I make a small suggestion?
For my it seems to me a little unnatural arrangement of the font stretched vertically on such big horizontal space, it may cost a little stretch horizontally?

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I don't think stretching the font would look as nice; perhaps increasing the spacing to give the appearance of a longer font may work. I'll come back with some alternate spacing and give that a go.

Im personally not a big fan of the off center logo. But widening the inner lettering seems like a good idea.

Only thing I'm worried about is the increased time. xondat spent quite a while finding the one he likes, and he landed on this one which is pretty nice to be honest. I'm a fan of the design and the logo, but the widening for the inner weight seems like a decent idea.

3 months in and I found the font (and complete design) I like, so I think spacing is the one thing that can change at this time.

The off center logo comes down to personal preference I guess.
My main point was going with a wider font / letter spacing to fit better with the huge horizontal space of the weight, just as you mentioned as well.

Here's a centered version for reference :)

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As said above, I think increasing the spacing is the way forward here.

When do you expect to see a final prototype of the weight xondat?

I'll send over the feedback I got here and get a final design soon, hopefully. After that it's a 1-3 week sample production. The sample weights will ship with the finished parts, so up to 4 weeks from when I get the final design I'd say.


I'm not too sure if this has been shared, but this is the final logo and branding that I'll be using in the future. Spacing and weight can change, but we'll keep playing around with the weights.

[wodan]

When do you expect to see a final prototype of the weight xondat?

*nods*

I'm glad 7bit taught me patience. Linearity of time is cruel

[aaron6301]

Typography 101 - Never distort a typeface. Adjust letter-spacing, kerning, and weight... If that still doesn't do it, find another typeface.

[loud_asian]

The original looks best imo

[smittysteve]

The original looks best imo

Agreed. I quite like the look of the original plate.

My vote is for "Limited to 100" or "Limited Edition - 100 Cases" and again, like the typeface you've gone with there.

Thanks for the chance to give input, Xondat.

[aaron6301]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

[FoC_Tow]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Love it! Huge improvement compared to the original imo.

[SixtyLife]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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+1 great job, love this

[pexon]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo

[RobotMalcolmX]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo

And would pair really well with a pexon cable...

[brighenne]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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[Fictiouz]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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This would be clean as hell with xondat's typeface. And do something like Carbon Edition 01/10, Founder Edition 01/30, Standard Edition X/100 so it keeps the same form but standard isn't numbered (use xondat's X he uses in Noxary and X60)

[aaron6301]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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This would be clean as hell with xondat's typeface. And do something like Carbon Edition 01/10, Founder Edition 01/30, Standard Edition X/100 so it keeps the same form but standard isn't numbered (use xondat's X he uses in Noxary and X60)

My plan was to hunt down the font that Xondat's designer used as I like it as well... But, alas, my patience grew thin  :rolleyes:

[loud_asian]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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that pretty ****in neato, I think I like this one more

[Jemaunji]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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I'm really digging this one too.

[pexon]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Something like that looks a lot cleaner imo

And would pair really well with a pexon cable...

 


:3

[jessica]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Hopping on the bandwagon here, that looks stellar. Xondat, I think the opinion is clear here :P

[lishi]

Typography 101 - Never distort a typeface. Adjust letter-spacing, kerning, and weight... If that still doesn't do it, find another typeface.

Yes, please never distort a typeface!

[Khers]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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I like this!

[Gatix]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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This is awesome. I like this one a lot better

[dgneo]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Killer  :thumb:

[fendent]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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This looks really nice

[romevi]

I'm also a fan of that design, and I'm not even in this GB.  )

[RobotMalcolmX]

I'm also a fan of that design, and I'm not even in this GB.  )

That's how you know it's good.

[pace8500]

If anyone wants to swap their Black or Gray HHKB case for my Black 60% case then let me know.

The chances are slim but it's worth a try!

[Jumie]

Btw is this going to have a diffuser?

[loud_asian]

Btw is this going to have a diffuser?

no xondat mentioned that the diffuser was scrapped

his prototype also doesn't have one

[wodan]

A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.

[duynguyenle]

A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.

Nah, nickel alloy 

[Khers]

A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.

Nah, nickel alloy 

Shot peened titanium with a tungsten plate and weight.

[jchan94]

Progress is looking good! I really like that logo that everyone is liking above.

Hard anodizing is amazing and it's nice to see it go this way. Can't wait to see a new prototype from the new manufacturer since I'm sure you want to see their quality before running full production!

Good luck Xondat

[jorgenslee]

Progress is looking good! I really like that logo that everyone is liking above.

Hard anodizing is amazing and it's nice to see it go this way. Can't wait to see a new prototype from the new manufacturer since I'm sure you want to see their quality before running full production!

Good luck Xondat

AFAIK, production has already been started and hard anodizing was dropped last month.

[trexous]

if anyone drops out ill happily take your spot (:

[pace8500]

If anyone wants to swap their Black or Gray HHKB case for my Black 60% case then let me know.

The chances are slim but it's worth a try!

I managed to get this swapped!

Now if anyone wants to swap their dark gray ANSI plate for my dark gray universal plate then let me know.

[xondat]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.

Btw is this going to have a diffuser?

Diffuser doesn't work with the alignment tabs. Maybe for V2.

A whimpy diffuser is just going to save weight. I bet it there was a way to do it, xondat would have made this keyboard out of cast iron.

I was actually going to have a full stainless steel case made, but I passed for some reason, probably because I have no idea how it'd be finished.


P.S. I have 10 extra cases that I've not sold yet, but had made, so those will probably be for sale when I commence shipping.

P.P.S. I should be trialling some new shipping boxes, methods, and packaging within the next couple of weeks. No custom packaging this time, maybe for X65 though.

[Khers]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.

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[jessica]

Here's my layout suggestion sans your font choice, can't seem to find it.

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Clean as **** - I love it. I'll have this made/mocked up on the weight, and this will most likely be the engraving.

WOOT