Is it possible I can get my kit earlier without the springs. I didn't order the keys and I can use the springs from my model M.
Do you have Model F flippers? If not, you'll still need the flippers and springs. Plus you'd have to break your Model M apart to get them anyway.
Breaking a Model M apart is nothing. I have enough springs for my future new model f.
The flippers should have finished production. The only parts missing are the springs, and I have the springs.
I don't understand why they won't ship my kits without the springs.
"They" is one man, Ellipse. This is his project and he says what happens. We have trusted him with our money while he has worked diligently to bring something new into the world that is his own imagining. When you ask him to request the manufacturer ship out an incomplete product, you are asking him to pull the baby out of the womb at 8 months. I believe what your asking is not only impractical, but insulting. Sorry if that sounds harsh.
This is a group buy, and you just have to wait for the product to be delivered.
Ya sorry but you're being ridiculous. Totally reasonable to request that your order be shipped out early. What's the difference between Ellipse's perfect new flippers, made exactly to IBM specs, vs. those from an actual Model F ,you know ,made by IBM, supposing someone wants to tear one apart?
Or, you know, someone who has keycaps and doesn't want to wait around another 5 or 6 months for the new ones to be produced?
Honestly I think Ellipse
should consider shipping orders missing certain parts out early on specific requests. The only arguments I consider valid against it are those relating to logistics, i.e. shipping out specific orders with specific parts excluded would add complexity to what Ellipse has to deal with. That added complexity could bleed into the rest of the project and slow things down for the rest of us. That's the only good reason not to ship out early.
But, jesus christ dude, it's not an insult to Ellipse to make the request. If anything it's a compliment, coming from people who want their new model F sometime before they are on their deathbed.
What I actually do find a little insulting (and I do mean only a little), on the other hand, is that Ellipse provided exactly no reason why he wouldn't ship out early-
he just said "No." There are pros and cons to working on these projects with a single person at the head, and one of the major pros is that we can communicate directly with that person. Ellipse can do what he wants, as long as he either delivers a product or our money, but it would nonetheless also be nice if he provided a reason behind this denial. I don't think he's obligated to, but it would be nice.