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V2 version Topre Silence Ring
KawabataLuis:
--- Quote from: MajorKoos on Mon, 17 September 2018, 19:12:04 ---
I can definitely notice the difference now they've decompressed somewhat. The keyboard has lost most of it's tactility (not that there was much to begin with on 45g Topre).
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Nice, I'm quite on the opposite end, I love the BKE extreme domes. I'll do some more research on the long term for these soft-landing pads before I make my choice. But also, I always can try something different if this doesn't work out, right? :D
--- Quote from: MajorKoos on Mon, 17 September 2018, 19:12:04 ---I haven't installed the v2 to compare, but I'd leave them stock rather than messing around with an iron.
I don't believe it's worth the effort if they're going to expand unevenly over time.
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Just to be sure, I think you meant the soft-landing pads with the iron stuff. As far as I understood, the v2 don't need iron to work as intended. But I also agree that if it will expand with time, it may not be worth it.
Anyway, thanks for the insights. When I finally choose something and have an opinion, I'll post it somewhere :D
the_marsbar:
--- Quote from: MajorKoos on Mon, 17 September 2018, 12:10:36 ---
--- Quote from: the_marsbar on Mon, 17 September 2018, 09:56:44 ---Well, yes. I have also used Hypersphere's rings in the Novatouch. I have a HHKB Pro 2 with purple sliders (from a factory silenced Realforce), before that I had Hypersphere's rings in that also.
As I said, the soft-landing pads can be made very thin (0.2 mm according to the thread below). However, it requires more work. I have not tried Keyclack's rings, or the KBDfans silence-x. However, in my opinion, it's really important to have silencing material which is as thin as possible, to avoid loss of tactility.
You can read more about the soft-landing pad mod here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
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I did this mod on my first NT.
Getting the landing pads as thin as possible AND making sure they're all the same thickness can be a challenge.
They've also decompressed quite a bit since then.
I would not recommend reinventing this wheel.
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Please post some proof of this decompression that you're talking about. The landing pads basically melt, so they should not decompress in any way. They still work great in my Novatouch. One of the sliders has a Hypersphere ring installed, and it sits lower than the ones with landing pads, i.e., the ironed landing pads are significantly thinner.
I agree that they are more difficult to modify, but it's not impossible. They are also cheaper. And readily available (also in Europe).
Lansky:
Here's a comparison of the V2 ring and a Hypersphere ring thickness. Sorry for the shotty image quality, unfortunately I don't own a macro lens.
Hypersphere:
Thanks for the comparisons. I haven't tried the v2 rings as yet.
When I was developing my silencing rings, I did extensive testing of materials to achieve what I considered the best balance of sound and feel, but of course personal preferences vary.
I also had durability in mind. I've had my rings in all my Topre boards (several each of HHKB Pro 2, RF87U, and Novatouch) for over 3 years with no signs of degradation thus far.
In any event, it is good to see that there are now a number of choices for Topre silencing to suit various personal preferences regarding sound, feel, and longevity.
MajorKoos:
--- Quote from: the_marsbar on Tue, 18 September 2018, 07:56:51 ---
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Please post some proof of this decompression that you're talking about. The landing pads basically melt, so they should not decompress in any way. They still work great in my Novatouch. On of the sliders has a Hypersphere ring installed, and it sits lower than the ones with landing pads, i.e., they are significantly thinner.
I agree that they are more difficult to modify, but it's not impossible. They are also cheaper. And readily available (also in Europe).
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Don't feel like taking it apart for a photo, but you're on point - I don't think I melted them enough.
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