[IC] CLASSIC SPACE - SA with Custom Font - MD Poll Up!

[jebbra]

With some popular flat SA keyset being made (JukeBox, 1976) has planck kit with legend I think SP already has the molds so the pricing is no problem (Godspeed Planck kit only $25ish). And please don't take pricing too much into consideration, we all know this is expensive hobby, nothing you can do to make this cheaper if you want custom things with quality. And more people means more price drop and as I already said, this is Lego themed we are talking about, the market is already there, you just need the right platform and I believe this will hit 4k buyer if not more.

I think I will add a Planck and/or 40% kit with blanks and polycarbonate keys (like the Ergodox kit). The problem with making legends for those sets is that it takes a lot of time and is very difficult to do, especially for the smaller keys. It would also costs significantly more, because a defining feature of Classic Space is that all the legends are in a Eurostile-like custom font, rather than in SP's default Gorton modified. I hope this satisfies most Planck owners, but do understand that there is a balance between responding to community feedback and setting realistic goals so that the set can actually run reasonably soon.

DUDE.... Seems like I'm too sleepy yesterday to realize this set will use CUSTOM FONT  My bad. I apologize.
Blanks will be much more feasible for sure if we talk about custom font.

[poolside]

Glad this set is finally happening 

- In order to make the numpad kit compatible with the 21-key numpads out there, would the addition of a dyesub black on yellow Esc, doubleshot blue Backspace and Tab R1 caps be possible?
- Any chance for an extra 2.25u Shift cap?

Is the LL928 keycap row 3?

[CQ_Cumbers]

Glad this set is finally happening 

- In order to make the numpad kit compatible with the 21-key numpads out there, would the addition of a dyesub black on yellow Esc, doubleshot blue Backspace and Tab R1 caps be possible?
- Any chance for an extra 2.25u Shift cap?

Is the LL928 keycap row 3?

The entire set will be in uniform R3, including the LL928. My concern with the doubleshot backspace is that there is just not enough space to put a backspace legend on a doubleshot blue key with this set's wider font. Perhaps a dyesub yellow backspace and doubleshot tab and esc keys would work? I can probably include an extra 2.25u Shift cap in the alternative modifiers kit. I will need to put a freeze on changes to the kits soon, however, as I am in the process of working out pricing and every change to a kit complicates things. If anyone has any more suggestions on the child kits, please tell me as soon as possible.

[poolside]

The entire set will be in uniform R3, including the LL928.

I did not see the KLE said "R3" right in the title, thanks.

My concern with the doubleshot backspace is that there is just not enough space to put a backspace legend on a doubleshot blue key with this set's wider font. Perhaps a dyesub yellow backspace and doubleshot tab and esc keys would work?

Something like "BS" (as seen on Leopold numpads), "BSP" or a left arrow maybe, so the backspace cap can still be blue and doubleshot?

I can probably include an extra 2.25u Shift cap in the alternative modifiers kit.

Great!

[Cotay]

At the risk of showing my age, I had the Lego 497 set when it first came out. I am looking forward to this and will add it to my list of must buys!

[CQ_Cumbers]

Vote now on Massdrop!

I've been working with thesiscamper recently, and he's created a fantastic new render of the set that I think will more accurately represent what the set is likely to look like in reality. You can see it in this post (click and expand for full resolution) or in the OP. I also thought this would be a good time to start a Massdrop poll using the new render, which you can vote on at the link above.

[hoq]

Maybe you should change the title of this thread to make more people aware of this Poll.
They may help for the vote.

I like this theme, maybe it's my first all R3 SA keycaps set 

[Elrick]

Vote now on Massdrop!

I've been working with thesiscamper recently, and he's created a fantastic new render of the set that I think will more accurately represent what the set is likely to look like in reality. You can see it in this post or in the OP. I also thought this would be a good time to start a Massdrop poll using the new render, which you can vote on at the link above.

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It looks SUPERB in every way.  Please also do a full 104 key setup since I'm an addict these days for a real-sized keyboard layout.

[pomk]

Could you add a nordic iso set as well? Now that we are not relying on doubleshots, I dont see why not.

[Dominathan]

We need to get this poll on r/mk, too.  Tons of eyes over there.  Maybe even r/lego

[jebbra]

This should be the hype on r/lego, make it real

[XTgg]

Any chance for splitting the base kit's alphas ?For the planck！

[TheRealDunkirk]

I've been looking for an SA set. I just checked Massdrop for the fun of it, which led me here. I was in 6th grade when I got the Lego set this is based on. I'm frightened to say how much I'd pay for this.

[poolside]

I've been working with thesiscamper recently, and he's created a fantastic new render of the set that I think will more accurately represent what the set is likely to look like in reality. You can see it in this post or in the OP. I also thought this would be a good time to start a Massdrop poll using the new render, which you can vote on at the link above.

thesiscamper, best renders in the industry.

[switchnollie]

Been watching this one for awhile, stoked to see it back up

Big ups to camper too, he's been making so many great renders recently

[CQ_Cumbers]

Been watching this one for awhile, stoked to see it back up

Big ups to camper too, he's been making so many great renders recently

Yeah, thesiscamper's renders have really upped the standard for the keycap design community. I was worried about the difficulty of working with someone else for renders after Oobly left, given how many custom and nonstandard features this set has, but thesiscamper has been wonderful to work with so far, and the quality of his work speaks for itself.

[thesiscamper]

Thank you for the kind words guys

[Twinguin]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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All the renders have been so great before and had me hooked up for this long ago. But this one ... ? This. Is. Amazing!! Pleeeease make this happen!

[derezzed]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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If you gaze long enough into the Classic Space, the Classic Space gazes into you.

Could the real thing match the caliber of this render?

[Hypocaffeinic]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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If you gaze long enough into the Classic Space, the Classic Space gazes into you.

Could the real thing match the caliber of this render?

So that.. that is not real. It's a render. A fancy computer illustration. Right?! That just breaks my brain.  :o

[CQ_Cumbers]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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If you gaze long enough into the Classic Space, the Classic Space gazes into you.

Could the real thing match the caliber of this render?

It is difficult to say whether the real thing will accurately match the renders of the transparent yellow keys, as Signature Plastics has not made many glossy polycarb SA keycaps before. However, we will try to get it as close as possible by asking them to color match the polycarbonate to an actual trans yellow Lego piece (though it's hard to say how good they are at color matching polycarbonate, as again they have not really done it before). If you are interested in making this a reality, please vote for the set on Massdrop.

[Elrick]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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If you gaze long enough into the Classic Space, the Classic Space gazes into you.

Could the real thing match the caliber of this render?

So that.. that is not real. It's a render. A fancy computer illustration. Right?! That just breaks my brain.  :o

That is the REALITY now when proposing any new Key-cap designs here on Geekhack.

Most newbs can not even think what the actual key-set will look like hence you will have talented people in 3D, spending great lengths of time for FREE to render up complete sets on keyboards to please these inept morons with no imagination whatsoever.

This is what you have to do to get them interested in any new Key-set Design these days.

[thesiscamper]

Thank you for the kind words guys

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If you gaze long enough into the Classic Space, the Classic Space gazes into you.

Could the real thing match the caliber of this render?

So that.. that is not real. It's a render. A fancy computer illustration. Right?! That just breaks my brain.  :o

That is the REALITY now when proposing any new Key-cap designs here on Geekhack.

Most newbs can not even think what the actual key-set will look like hence you will have talented people in 3D, spending great lengths of time for FREE to render up complete sets on keyboards to please these inept morons with no imagination whatsoever.

This is what you have to do to get them interested in any new Key-set Design these days.

I charge for them though

Oh but that one image I did for free.

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[Elrick]

I charge for them though

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Oh but that one image I did for free.

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As you should, no one should put a great amount of time and effort to develop and render these images without being adequately compensated.

3D manipulation and render isn't easy and it takes a great deal of time to become competent at this craft.  You're great at what you do, keep it up.

[thesiscamper]

I charge for them though

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Oh but that one image I did for free.

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As you should, no one should put a great amount of time and effort to develop and render these images without being adequately compensated.

3D manipulation and render isn't easy and it takes a great deal of time to become competent at this craft.  You're great at what you do, keep it up.

Thank you! :)

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[pixelpusher]

Is this still in massdrop poll status?  I totally forgot about this set but I saw something this blue and yellow today and it reminded me of it

[ChitownM2]

Just stumbled onto this for the first time today. This set looks incredible. Any chance this is going to happen....seeing that this thread started in 2015 doesn't seem promising, but I see a lot of hard work that went into this so I'd love to see it produced.

[imprevade]

Just stumbled onto this for the first time today. This set looks incredible. Any chance this is going to happen....seeing that this thread started in 2015 doesn't seem promising, but I see a lot of hard work that went into this so I'd love to see it produced.

I'm still very interested as well!

[testplsignore]

Really interested in this too.
The SA queue is pretty backed up, so even if this runs in DSA beforehand I would be happy with that

[KnightDX]

I would love to see this set on my keyboard, count me in!

[Elrick]

I would love to see this set on my keyboard, count me in!

Same here, even us older, perverted, deranged, done it all to anything and everyone, want's this key-set  .

Great key-set design doesn't happen everyday here on Geekhack but when it comes along, everyone notices it and becomes addicted to owning it.

[MajorKoos]

Keeping the dream alive...

[dodgeyhack]

[ihalatch]

Very interested. Is there any chance this will happen?

[RobotRogue]

Annnnnd voted. This kit really speaks to the kid still inside me. Love it.

[Slimko]

Voted. Will definitely buy if it drops, and I hope it will! Any news on that?

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[bluesclera]

OP, if this thing is dead, have the courtesy to tell us.

[Zobeid Zuma]

• Uniform SA Row 3 profile

Why is it so hard to get sculpted SA sets, I wonder?

[Elrick]

• Uniform SA Row 3 profile

Why is it so hard to get sculpted SA sets, I wonder?

Suspect Signature Plastics is drowning in orders and would rather put our key-set further back, than to invest anymore into their production facilities to increase throughput.

Welcome to business, always wanting but never fulfilling  .

[imprevade]

• Uniform SA Row 3 profile

Why is it so hard to get sculpted SA sets, I wonder?

Suspect Signature Plastics is drowning in orders and would rather put our key-set further back, than to invest anymore into their production facilities to increase throughput.

Welcome to business, always wanting but never fulfilling  .

Even though it seems like the mech community is dying for SA keysets, I'm sure we don't meet the demand necessary for opening more manufacturing facilities. That equipment is expensive AF. And in the long term, they're doing the best thing for their employees, because if one day the demand dies out—or competitors enter the market—they won't have to close facilities or have major layoffs.

I'd much rather have them improve quality than timelines, which it seems they have been doing. I just received my Dasher set, and the quality is noticeably better than Amazing Chocolatier, which I received a few months ago. It looks like they've redone some of the molds for stabilized keys, and QC must be better since I didn't have to request any replacements this time.

[kmba]

I'm sure SP has done a cost analysis and determined expanding capacity doesn't make sense. People always ask and complain that they don't with out considering what it would take. Additional molding machines, molds, plastic processing, material storage, employees, logistics, etc. And do we know what their factory looks like? Maybe they'd need additional room for production and storage. So people want them to open a whole new factory manned by new employees just to deliver a keyset in 6 months.. ok lol.

[Puddsy]

SP is actually in the process of expanding their tooling for SA, from what I've heard.

[tomatoboy]

Is these still in progress?

[amnesia0287]

SP is actually in the process of expanding their tooling for SA, from what I've heard.

for more options? or you mean like they are expanding capacity?

[schmoktopus]

no, this thread is dead.