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Title: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MAR 6 - APR 7][PRICING👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:40:53
GROUP BUY THREAD IS LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104965)

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Meine Damen und Herren, Mesdames et Messieurs, Ladies and Gentlemen...

Since the group buy for GMK Phosphorous is well underway and should reach MOQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102762.0) (🤞🏻), I would love to show you what I have been working on in the meantime.

Ever since June rolled over, I have been thinking how to commemorate the Apollo 11's mission's 50th anniversary.

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Then I remembered about the Apollo Guidance Computer (it made waves over the internet a month or so ago, because people were trying to prove that Margaret Hamilton didn't write the software for it) and its interface — DSKY (pronounced "dis-kee"). As you can see, the DSKY has a black keypad with white legends, yellow indicator lights, and a green electroluminescent seven-segment display. Commands were entered numerically, as two-digit numbers — called Verb and Noun. The first one represented the action being issued, while the second represented the data that would be changed.

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DSKY itself was a starting point, but it did not yet give me a satisfactory colourway. But when I saw exactly how and where DSKY was mounted, I instantly knew what I wanted — subtle, lighter and darker greys, with yellows for the accents.

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One of my goals was to use the legends and values from DSKY's various keys and indicators, in place of our traditional legends. This in turn led me to a decision to use stock GMK colours, to make everything easier and more affordable.

GMK Lunar uses a medium 2B gray for the alphas and mods with a lighter 2M gray for legends. The Numpad, which I consider an integral part of the whole design and colourway, uses the darker N9 gray with 2M legends. I also chose N6 yellow as the main accent colour, with N9 legends, where appropriate. The Novelty Kit has a set of optional "Master Alarm" accents — these will be either V1 or RO2 (V1 currently).

(Please note that the keys that you will find on the renders below, have since been modified slightly, so they may not be completely accurate at this point in time. They also have a typo — my bad.)

Without further ado, I give you GMK Lunar...

Renders

GMK Lunar on Austin

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GMK Lunar on e-yellow Think6.5

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Planned Kits

Please note that the text on the arrows will be replaced by arrow icons. The font is also not a perfect match for GMK's font. These are temporary renders until they're more or less finalized, when I'll get someone who knows what she or he is doing to do them.

Command Module (Core Kit)
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Houston! We Have A Problem! (Novelty Kit)
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Novelties are still a work in progress, are being refined and will be perfected. Any and all feedback on their topic would be fantastic.

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Lunar Module (N9 Alphas Kit)
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It should be possible to cover two keyboards with the Command Module and Lunar Module (base kit + alpha kit), depending on your layouts.


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Service Module (Assembly Kit)
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GMK Lunar Pricing

Dear everyone,

I just received the final prices from all the vendors today. Salvun's artisans prices are still not 100% certain, so I will refrain from speculation.

— GMK Lunar has 77 new molds, which should make this one of the most unique GMK sets ever made.
— MOQ for the Command Module (base kit) is set at 150.
— Child kits are at 100.
— The Command Module + Lunar Module will allow you to cover 2 keyboards (one with split backspace etc.).
— I would also like to take this chance to thank GMK for all their help in graciously participating financially in this set, to help bring the price down, as well as the vendors, who have minimised their profits, to make it easier for all of you guys.
— The Command Module (base kit) offers completely custom modifiers and the whole design is based around the Apollo Guidance Computer, DSKY interface, and pays tribute to the upcoming 51st Anniversary of Apollo 11's moon mission.
— The Assembly Kit is designed to cover as many layouts, as was feasible. It's MOQ has already been bought out and it will be made.


The vendors participating in this group buy are as follows:

— The Key Company (USA): https://thekey.company/products/gmk-lunar
— MyKeyboard.eu (EU): https://mykeyboard.eu/
— Daily Clack (AUS): https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-lunar
— iLumKB (SG/Asia): https://ilumkb.com/

Pricing is as follows...

USA

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 160 USD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 75 USD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 65 USD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 25 USD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 165 USD

Europe

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 151 EUR
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 70 EUR
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 57 EUR
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 20 EUR
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 160 EUR

Australia

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 242 AUD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 113 AUD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 98 AUD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 38 AUD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 250 AUD

Asia

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 224 SGD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 105 SGD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 91 SGD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 35 SGD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 230 SGD

Sidenote: The base kit, at 160 USD, with included numpad, is still cheaper than GMK Phosphorous was with a separate base kit (129 USD base + 34 USD numpad = 163 USD) and GMK Apollo (120 USD base + 50 USD numpad = 170 USD).

Group buy starts...

USA — March 6, 9:00 pm EST (e.g. New York)
Europe — March 7, 3:00 am CET (e.g. Paris)
Asia — March 7, 10:00 am SGT (e.g. Singapore)
Australia — March 7, 12:00 pm QTZ (e.g. Brisbane)

Optional Kits — these won't go forward, there wasn’t enough demand
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Moon Rover (40s/ortho kit)

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NorDEUK Kit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:42:06
Reserved (for renders).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: mydens on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:44:43
Nice looking keyboard, has that GB come and gone?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:46:03
Nice looking keyboard, has that GB come and gone?

That is the fantastic Austin from driftingbunnies, and yes — it's over.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: jinrawke on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:47:53
diggin this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 13:59:29
Yea I'm down.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 14:06:06
i think it's a good start

i'd like to see a little bit more going on if you're going for the space theme, since you're competing with quite a few sets in that slot
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: spooknik on Sun, 20 October 2019, 14:07:18
I'm on board. Looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 20 October 2019, 14:12:17
i think it's a good start

i'd like to see a little bit more going on if you're going for the space theme, since you're competing with quite a few sets in that slot

Tell me more!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 14:24:33
I think it's nice to have a space themed set that doesn't scream PLANETS and SPACESHIPS. Space can be monotone and serious as well. You could offload some of that normal spacey stuff onto a desk mat. I have a thick NASA photobook all about the Apollo missions and they have some great photos of earth from above. https://imgur.com/a/efrrSeZ

For me this set leans more into command module than space anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:35:10
the novelties are superb. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: dom on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:07:45
Yessss! :) Really love the combination (and overall inspiration)!

BTW: Well, now I understand how expensive this "hobby" can be if you read every IC post! ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Stan137 on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:12:23
Amazing colors with great inspiration. Definitely interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:16:43
i think it's a good start

i'd like to see a little bit more going on if you're going for the space theme, since you're competing with quite a few sets in that slot

Tell me more!

i think the novelties are actually really good, but i think the base kit is lacking

the legends don't show on the alphas enough, i think a whiter white or a darker grey would fix this issue

and since you want it to be mottled, like the surface of the moon, it's worth considering using a different color on the mods
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Agilr on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:18:56
Hey, love the idea of the set btw and the colours!

Just a concern for the base kit, considering that this set will be using custom text mods with lots of compatibility, GMK will have to make moulds for all of them which will drive the price up quite a bit. Something like this was seen in GMK Fro.Yo, but the smaller base kit made it still reasonably priced. How much it'd add I'm not sure, but it's just something to keep in mind of in case you wanted to cut it down for a more accessible price.

Look forward to seeing this in GB! :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:19:58
Hey, love the idea of the set btw and the colours!

Just a concern for the base kit, considering that this set will be using custom text mods with lots of compatibility, GMK will have to make moulds for all of them which will drive the price up quite a bit. Something like this was seen in GMK Fro.Yo, but the smaller base kit made it still reasonably priced. How much it'd add I'm not sure, but it's just something to keep in mind of in case you wanted to cut it down for a more accessible price.

Look forward to seeing this in GB! :cool:

it's a lot but it's less than you think given the volume that GMK sets sell nowadays
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:24:42
I like it. Base set is super low contrast for the legend color though. You might consider choosing a lighter shade of grey/white.

Edit: Also, the display text was green. I think green novelties would add a lot to the theme. Maybe even a translucent escape or enter key?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Agilr on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:34:47
Hey, love the idea of the set btw and the colours!

Just a concern for the base kit, considering that this set will be using custom text mods with lots of compatibility, GMK will have to make moulds for all of them which will drive the price up quite a bit. Something like this was seen in GMK Fro.Yo, but the smaller base kit made it still reasonably priced. How much it'd add I'm not sure, but it's just something to keep in mind of in case you wanted to cut it down for a more accessible price.

Look forward to seeing this in GB! :cool:

it's a lot but it's less than you think given the volume that GMK sets sell nowadays

What do you mean?

Its always been an MOQ of 250 on custom colours and 150 on stock for pricing unless you're bound to sell well which in that case quotes of 500, 750 etc can be made
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 20 October 2019, 18:38:47
Probably just me, but what if "master alarm" was the backspace?

I like the lower contrast as is, I'd buy with the color suggestions too.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 20 October 2019, 19:26:27
I am a big fan of the low contrast. It could maybe do with a little bit more but it should remain "grey on grey". If it were much higher contrast with dark mods, green novelties and translucent Esc I feel it would completely miss the mark on the original minimalism OP was going for.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Sun, 20 October 2019, 21:13:23
If it were much higher contrast with dark mods, green novelties and translucent Esc it would completely miss the mark on the original minimalism OP was going for.

Wait, what?.. Where did op state this? This set is supposed to emulate a DSKY computer. The only quote I can find is "subtle, lighter and darker greys" which indicates nothing about low contrast legends or a lack of colored novelties (which are literally already offered in a kit).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: mrkantz on Mon, 21 October 2019, 00:32:58
Great looking set! I wouldn't change a thing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:36:36
and since you want it to be mottled, like the surface of the moon, it's worth considering using a different color on the mods

I don’t actually. Colourway is based on the AGC/DSKY interface and it’s surroundings. They happen to coincide with the the Moon’s shades of grey and the moon novelty is about as far as I would like to go in that direction.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:38:32
Hey, love the idea of the set btw and the colours!

Just a concern for the base kit, considering that this set will be using custom text mods with lots of compatibility, GMK will have to make moulds for all of them which will drive the price up quite a bit. Something like this was seen in GMK Fro.Yo, but the smaller base kit made it still reasonably priced. How much it'd add I'm not sure, but it's just something to keep in mind of in case you wanted to cut it down for a more accessible price.

Look forward to seeing this in GB! :cool:

I’m hoping around 130 EUR/USD will be attainable.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:40:47
I like it. Base set is super low contrast for the legend color though. You might consider choosing a lighter shade of grey/white.

Edit: Also, the display text was green. I think green novelties would add a lot to the theme. Maybe even a translucent escape or enter key?

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I actually tried to incorporate the green (GMK AE) into the Numpad legends. It didn’t match the rest of the set. Clashed. I like your translucent idea though. Will think on it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:44:46
If it were much higher contrast with dark mods, green novelties and translucent Esc it would completely miss the mark on the original minimalism OP was going for.

Wait, what?.. Where did op state this? This set is supposed to emulate a DSKY computer. The only quote I can find is "subtle, lighter and darker greys" which indicates nothing about low contrast legends or a lack of colored novelties (which are literally already offered in a kit).

That might have been a conversation on Discord and it’s what I meant when I wrote about subtlety. I don’t want too much contrast (e.g. I really like if the mods and alphas aren’t too far apart from each other, or ideally are in the same colour; see Phosphorous).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:56:55
Some questions and topics from IC form that I wanted to touch on:

1. If you want regular mods, get GMK ASCII by Oblotzky (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101906.0). It’s running soon and we’re (completely by accident) running the same two shades of gray (2M and 2B).

2. I have 2 ideas for a RAMA collab I wish to pursue. Hopefully Kate will understand what I want.

3. I will be talking to Salvun about another collab (copper key, similar to the housing of the AGC in colour).

4. I cannot do a NASA logo. It’s copyrighted. I probably could reach out to them but the amount of red tape would be probably insane.

5. If this kit was running on Drop.com (which it won’t), I’d consider one more base kit in a reverse colourway (N9 mods and alphas, with a light numpad), aka what Oblivion did. But I don’t think we’d get enough buyers to make it reach MOQ.

6. There will be desk mats.

7. I am working on a very unique collab, one that hasn't been done before. More info when I get it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 21 October 2019, 06:00:38
Live this colour combination.  Interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 21 October 2019, 08:39:24
I'm interested in this set, what is the novelty third from the left on R1 supposed to be? It looks like a mitochondria (might just be my medicine mind here)  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 09:46:56
I'm interested in this set, what is the novelty third from the left on R1 supposed to be? It looks like a mitochondria (might just be my medicine mind here)  ^-^

Neil Armstrong's footstep! 😅
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Mon, 21 October 2019, 10:22:53
If it were much higher contrast with dark mods, green novelties and translucent Esc it would completely miss the mark on the original minimalism OP was going for.

Wait, what?.. Where did op state this? This set is supposed to emulate a DSKY computer. The only quote I can find is "subtle, lighter and darker greys" which indicates nothing about low contrast legends or a lack of colored novelties (which are literally already offered in a kit).

That might have been a conversation on Discord and it’s what I meant when I wrote about subtlety. I don’t want too much contrast (e.g. I really like if the mods and alphas aren’t too far apart from each other, or ideally are in the same colour; see Phosphorous).

I actually like the mods and alphas beeing the same color. My concern was the legends themselves beeing low contrast because in the renders they are near illegible. See SoWaRe or deep space for real life examples of what I'm talking about. However, if this set uses the same colors as ASCII, then it may just be an issue with the lighting in the renders because I can make ASCII out just fine.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 17:47:02
If it were much higher contrast with dark mods, green novelties and translucent Esc it would completely miss the mark on the original minimalism OP was going for.

Wait, what?.. Where did op state this? This set is supposed to emulate a DSKY computer. The only quote I can find is "subtle, lighter and darker greys" which indicates nothing about low contrast legends or a lack of colored novelties (which are literally already offered in a kit).

That might have been a conversation on Discord and it’s what I meant when I wrote about subtlety. I don’t want too much contrast (e.g. I really like if the mods and alphas aren’t too far apart from each other, or ideally are in the same colour; see Phosphorous).

I actually like the mods and alphas beeing the same color. My concern was the legends themselves beeing low contrast because in the renders they are near illegible. See SoWaRe or deep space for real life examples of what I'm talking about. However, if this set uses the same colors as ASCII, then it may just be an issue with the lighting in the renders because I can make ASCII out just fine.

The legends should be fine. Oblotzky does colour/lighting neutral renders, while Abec goes for more fancy lighting (I’m guessing a tad less accurate).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 21 October 2019, 17:55:58
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Should be plenty enough contrast for readability, yet they should subtly complement each other. These two colours have a similar temperature and they work wonderfully together.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 22 October 2019, 12:44:15
I spent a few hours teaching myself rendering today (I'm tragic, so please bear with me; also can't get unicode legends to work, so I changed the arrow keys to text) while trying to showcase the contrast between the 2B keys and 2M legends. It should be plenty legible. Tried to make the lighting neutral and natural. Let me know what you think.

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I also played around with the idea of doing N9 legends on 2B keys. Here's what I came up with and please let me know what you think. The lighting in this render is a bit too dark (think evening time with little light) but the contrast appears to be lower than with the 2M legends.

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Feedback welcome. As usual.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 22 October 2019, 13:12:47
AS much as I like GMK Dark and Ddolch, liked your original design better. Matches your inspiration a bit more too (although those keys look more like N9).

I'm probably not the only one who also likes the interoperability with ASCII, too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: dom on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:12:09
Personally prefer the first option (White on gray option).
Anyway, love the set so much ;)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 22 October 2019, 15:08:25
Preliminary GB date is March 2020.

GMK Taro is March too. Will this be October 2019 all over again for me?

I’ll experiment with N9 mods and N9 alphas tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Tue, 22 October 2019, 20:52:58
The contrast on your render looks better. Dark legends are no bueno though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: consumer on Tue, 22 October 2019, 22:01:00
The contrast on your render looks better. Dark legends are no bueno though.

Agree.
How about Option 1 with alphas. Option 2 with modifiers? How will that look with renders?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:23:18
The contrast on your render looks better. Dark legends are no bueno though.

Agree.
How about Option 1 with alphas. Option 2 with modifiers? How will that look with renders?

To clarify — light grey legends on alphas and dark grey legends on mods?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: kmfmppl on Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:28:43
I like the original concept with the same light colour for both mods and alphas. I'm a sucker for low contrast though. Interchangeability with ASCII is a welcome bonus.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: consumer on Wed, 23 October 2019, 02:31:31
The contrast on your render looks better. Dark legends are no bueno though.

Agree.
How about Option 1 with alphas. Option 2 with modifiers? How will that look with renders?

To clarify — light grey legends on alphas and dark grey legends on mods?

Yes, I think that would work very well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 04:21:05
Here's something to discuss — a few topics from the IC check:

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I’m not Best with kits, but i like including ISO people since it only adds like $5 base cost

Added. The majority voted for ISO in base.

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Maybe a yellow 2u spacebar in the spacebar kit or 40s kit. Base kit has options for yellow space, but there's nothing for smaller sizes in yellow.

Added yellow bars to Spacebar kit.

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I think you should separate the numpad from the base kit to reduce costs.

I won't be doing that in this set (it would save approximately 5 USD on price in this configuration and would cost around 30 as a child kit).

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numpad in the black color is offputting, so are the legends that aren't easily understood, I have no association with things like 'Vel' for a key I'd put on my keyboard (alt, control, etc). I think this needs to be re-evaluated, it seems like a set with too many visions it's trying to accomplish. Maybe you need to put the black alphas into the base, not sure but it just strikes me the wrong way

Clarification: It's a dark N9 grey. Legends aren't meant to be easily understood — they're a homage to the DSKY interface for the Apollo Guidance Computer. And we all know where each key is anyway (especially mods; you don't need the proper legends to use them correctly). I'm not sure what the author means by "too many visions” — let me know if you're reading this. N9 alphas are being considered (renders below).

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Specifically, I wonder if the base kit should have black-on-white keys instead of white-on-gray, and then perhaps the Lunar Module kit becomes white-on-gray.

Seems like there is a missed opportunity for some BoW

BoW is GMK Minimal. I wouldn't want to make a copy of this kit with different legends. Also, the grey is from the inside of the cockpit where the Apollo Guidance Computer was installed.

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There should be a separate numpad kit that matches the rest of the set, or put the dark numpad into a separate kit. I'd like the option available to match the rest of the set.

There could be but I doubt it would hit MOQ.

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ISO-FR

Spanish - Latin American

Unfortunately I don't think there will be enough demand for this. 😞

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alternate colors for F keys - having them all the same color as the 0-9 keys does not look good on some 75% keyboard where the 0-9 and F keys are one giant grid (i.e. Singa)

Thoughts?

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Space at should probably be grey by default, but I think it needs a bit of white too. Yellow arrows are amazing, but would love white enter and escape for example.

White novelties instead of grey.

love your setup so far. I like white accents/novelties because White reminds me of the moon.

Three requests for white novelties. Instead of red? Another colour way? We're getting into an expensive novelty kit here! Thoughts?

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I would like to see a 3u space in there for the landing pad kit.  **I have a split space bar on the Vortexgear Cypher and there are NO kits that have a 3.25u space. So the split is a 3u and a 3.25u space bar which I find really convenient, but really inconvenient that there are NO kits for it. If this increases the price of the kits, then I would say forget I mentioned it, but just a thought.

I don't think GMK has molds for these keys.

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I would love to see some additions to the 40% ortho which would allow me to use the lunar module and that kit together to have a complete keyboard (I have an iris) 2 more R1 keys would do it! Good luck!

Thoughts? (At this point (according to the survey) there is not enough demand for 40s/ortho to warrant a child kit.)

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Option for mods without custom legends.

I would greatly prefer standard legends in the base kit.

Go get GMK ASCII for the regular mods. 😉

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Minivan backspace

Can someone clarify which row and size that is?

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1. Yellow split space bars could be somewhere? (2.75/2.25). If you put them in the 40's kit, that's cool, me and a coupla other people split up those into 40 ortho split bars and mail each other the subset.

3. If the whole thing was N9, or the numpad became...uh, not 2Bthat's cool too.

5. Every. Single. Time. Mito posts a new godspeed kit, people ask for GMK, he won't do it. Though this isn't a copy, it sure scratches the same itch. I think you have a winner.

Re 1: Added to Spacebar kit.
Re 3: A reverse colour way? I'll consider it. Thoughts?
Re 5: I'm a fan of the Godspeed set. Only appreciated the XDA profile (missed GB unfortunately). Never thought to use it as inspiration for Lunar though — I just focused on the AGC and DSKY.

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teeny bit concerned about contrast on the grey keys.

It shouldn't be a problem. It's actually more contrasty then the renders give it credit.

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Maybe a bit more yellow keys? Esc, caps, ctrl?

Thoughts?

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Might be interested in the dark alphas, just need to see a render first.

Will be added today.

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Coleman support

I'd love to do that but there is practically no chance this would hit MOQ.

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I would love to see a concept artisan made of copper (not sure if it would look better polished or blasted)

Working on this with Salvun.

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Modifiers and function keys kit but in Lunar Module colorway. Basically a new set in the Lunar Module colorway

Is this something you'd like to see? In theory, if there was enough demand, we could do another base set in a reverse colour way with or without a numpad (N9 keys with 2M legends, 2M keys for Numpad with N9 legends).

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More novelties, perhaps a NASA logo or stylized NASA logo

Would love to do this, but copyrights/permissions needed. 😞

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Maybe a VIM kit if there is enough interest

Anyone?

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yes, an assembly kit with these custom text mods please (no to boring blank ergo mods)!

Please add an ergo kit to better support ortholinear and ergonomic boards.

Working on this with MKUltra. No details yet.

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A cool lunar landing desk mat

Of course!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 04:22:41
Tried my hand at a few more renders today (still learning so far from perfect or... you know... accurate). I give you what the Lunar Module (N9 alphas) kit could look like...

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: yaya on Wed, 23 October 2019, 07:51:47
I like the original concept with the same light colour for both mods and alphas. I'm a sucker for low contrast though. Interchangeability with ASCII is a welcome bonus.

Agree.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 23 October 2019, 08:07:19
I prefer the original concept with lighter alphas as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 09:13:41
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you GMK Modern Dolch Lunar!

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As per requests from the IC form, this is what N9 mods and 2B alphas would look like. More or less (arrows will have arrows, can't render unicode for some reason).

Also, I made another render of the Lunar Module.

[attachimg=2]

Quite frankly, I think the original design was best and the Lunar Module does not work as well as I though it would. Nor do the N9 alphas.

But let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 23 October 2019, 10:44:13
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you GMK Modern Dolch Lunar!

(Attachment Link)

As per requests from the IC form, this is what N9 mods and 2B alphas would look like. More or less (arrows will have arrows, can't render unicode for some reason).

Also, I made another render of the Lunar Module.

(Attachment Link)

Quite frankly, I think the original design was best and the Lunar Module does not work as well as I though it would. Nor do the N9 alphas.

But let me know what you guys think!

Keep the mods grey. I still like the Lunar Module kit though. Here's a KLE draft I made of it if for an HHKB layout if I end up buying. I think it looks good.

(https://i.imgur.com/RpQuZRL.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:50:49
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you GMK Modern Dolch Lunar!

(Attachment Link)

As per requests from the IC form, this is what N9 mods and 2B alphas would look like. More or less (arrows will have arrows, can't render unicode for some reason).

Also, I made another render of the Lunar Module.

(Attachment Link)

Quite frankly, I think the original design was best and the Lunar Module does not work as well as I though it would. Nor do the N9 alphas.

But let me know what you guys think!

Keep the mods grey. I still like the Lunar Module kit though. Here's a KLE draft I made of it if for an HHKB layout if I end up buying. I think it looks good.

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(https://i.imgur.com/RpQuZRL.png)


HHKB is one those layouts that looks amazing always.

Someone on Discord suggested for those people to use the GMK Nines alphas to mix and match. What do you think? An alpha kit would run around 50 USD probably.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 23 October 2019, 14:03:10
I personally wasn't interested in nines so I didn't buy it. Alpha legend color doesn't match at all anyways. I'd rather pay $50 then whatever aftermarket prices land at.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Deadboy on Wed, 23 October 2019, 14:05:01
woaw! What a beauty! As a "space guy" I really dig the colors and thought about this set.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Wed, 23 October 2019, 14:07:16
2B mods and N9 alphas may be my fav, or tied with original design.

Re alpha kit pricing: camping has Latin alphas at 62. Violet on cream had purple alphas (also numpad alphas) for 70, and that’s novelkeys pricing which is typically cheapest. Take away number row you could be in the 50s. Oblivion r2 sold over 1000 hagoromo alphas and was 55$.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: maximize on Wed, 23 October 2019, 15:23:57
I like the monochromatic alphas+mods! Overall, though, it seems like a lot of grey. What about changing F5-F8 and Rset (Esc) to N9? Or F1-F4 and F9-F12?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 15:27:42
I like the monochromatic alphas+mods! Overall, though, it seems like a lot of grey. What about changing F5-F8 and Rset (Esc) to N9? Or F1-F4 and F9-F12?

To include with the Lunar Module (N9 alphas)?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: maximize on Wed, 23 October 2019, 16:01:41
I like the monochromatic alphas+mods! Overall, though, it seems like a lot of grey. What about changing F5-F8 and Rset (Esc) to N9? Or F1-F4 and F9-F12?

To include with the Lunar Module (N9 alphas)?

Not necessarily, but maybe. I meant that I would consider putting them in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 23 October 2019, 16:18:21
Two more quick renders, showcasing what it could look like on a HHKB (two versions, one for Ensaum but without mixing red and yellow, and one for me):

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

The legends on the yellow keys should be N9. My bad. Please imagine they are.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Wed, 23 October 2019, 17:04:49
 :rolleyes:
Two more quick renders, showcasing what it could look like on a HHKB (two versions, one for Ensaum but without mixing red and yellow, and one for me):

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

The legends on the yellow keys should be N9. My bad. Please imagine they are.

Ah shucks, I'm honored. Both are 🔥
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: duxbridge on Wed, 23 October 2019, 17:53:15
IMO. the Lunar Module should be part of the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: BrainBunker on Thu, 24 October 2019, 01:44:16
IMO. the Lunar Module should be part of the base set.

I would probably agree. However, if it's decided not to do that (runner decides what they want for the vision), I'd just buy the lunar module. Personally, I can't imagine using this without it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Deadboy on Thu, 24 October 2019, 02:55:10
Two more quick renders, showcasing what it could look like on a HHKB (two versions, one for Ensaum but without mixing red and yellow, and one for me):

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

The legends on the yellow keys should be N9. My bad. Please imagine they are.

 :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 24 October 2019, 05:25:49
OK, so according to the IC form I posted, 70% want the Novelty Kit and 49% want the Lunar Module kit with N9 alphas.

Should I combine the two?

Other thoughts:

- 40s kit has low interest
- NorDEUK barely any
- Spacebar kit lower than expected.

So plans at this point in time include:
- Base Kit
- Novelties
- Spacebars
- Lunar Module (N9 alphas)

I was thinking of combining alphas with spacebars or novelties to lower costs but that would mean that some would pay more than they need/want to.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 24 October 2019, 06:59:58
Updated the novelty kit...

[attachimg=1]

- Grey novelty legends changed to light grey (2M) from (N9).
- Design of Footprint and Moon refined to meet GMK's guidelines.

To do:
- refine Lander and Astronaut

Feedback welcome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 24 October 2019, 08:33:17
IMO. the Lunar Module should be part of the base set.

I like the monochromatic alphas+mods! Overall, though, it seems like a lot of grey. What about changing F5-F8 and Rset (Esc) to N9? Or F1-F4 and F9-F12?

To include with the Lunar Module (N9 alphas)?

Not necessarily, but maybe. I meant that I would consider putting them in the base kit.

IMO. the Lunar Module should be part of the base set.

I would probably agree. However, if it's decided not to do that (runner decides what they want for the vision), I'd just buy the lunar module. Personally, I can't imagine using this without it.

Current IC numbers show that a little under 50% want the Lunar Module Kit. I'm pretty sure that number will drop by 50% once they see the price in the 50-70 USD range.

Also considering adding R1 Esc + F5-F8 in N9 to Lunar Module kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 24 October 2019, 08:44:35
Made some new mockups to showcase some things...

Red accents with Lunar Module at a different angle

[attachimg=1]

Yellow accents with yellow and grey novelties.

[attachimg=2]

What if I also added white (WS1) accents to the novelty kit? Mocking up a Haze M60-A look for a change in scenery.

[attachimg=3]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Ensaum on Thu, 24 October 2019, 11:20:06
Current IC numbers show that a little under 50% want the Lunar Module Kit. I'm pretty sure that number will drop by 50% once they see the price in the 50-70 USD range.

Also considering adding R1 Esc + F5-F8 in N9 to Lunar Module kit.

$50-$70 is pretty standard for an alpha kit and I think most people interested enough to fill out the form know this. You should probably also add a 7u space bar to Lunar Module as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 24 October 2019, 14:43:34
So I made some more renders today, to showcase some ideas from the IC form. Feedback welcome.

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An “e-white” and purple HHKB with white accents.

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I also renders some novelties - Neil Armstrong’s footprint and the moon - with yellow accents.

[attachimg=4]

And one more angle of the red ones.

Let me know.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: portbaron on Thu, 24 October 2019, 19:54:48
I like the all gray version more than the black alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 24 October 2019, 21:24:48
I like the kits the way they are. But I will probably buy the dark alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 25 October 2019, 04:09:13
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/499108551?t=0h57m35s

Top Clack on GMK Lunar! ❤️
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 25 October 2019, 07:07:53
So I spent the last two days working on the kits some more along with some very unprofessional renders (but hopefully better than screenshots from KLE).

Please note that the text on the arrows will be replaced by arrow icons. The font is also not a perfect match for GMK's font. These are temporary renders until they're more or less finalized, when I'll get someone who knows what she or he is doing to do them.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 25 October 2019, 08:05:56

(Attachment Link)

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<grumble> Atlantis ISO <grumble>
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: deLEES on Fri, 25 October 2019, 16:49:19
I love what you are doing with this kit, but please, please, please add UK ISO; it is only a couple extra keys but a deal breaker for me without it :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:09:27
I’m struggling to see the resemblance. Nice colors. Just missed the intent.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 26 October 2019, 08:17:27
I’m struggling to see the resemblance. Nice colors. Just missed the intent.

What are you missing exactly?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 26 October 2019, 12:45:10
I love what you are doing with this kit, but please, please, please add UK ISO; it is only a couple extra keys but a deal breaker for me without it :(

Is it these four yellow keycaps?  Do you want them in the base kit so you don't have to purchase NorDeUK?  And/or added to the N9 Lunar Module kit?

(https://i.imgur.com/3Kb2uvw.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 26 October 2019, 18:07:24
I love what you are doing with this kit, but please, please, please add UK ISO; it is only a couple extra keys but a deal breaker for me without it :(

Is it these four yellow keycaps?  Do you want them in the base kit so you don't have to purchase NorDeUK?  And/or added to the N9 Lunar Module kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3Kb2uvw.png)


Yeah, would need 8 extra keys total.

Curious: why is it a dealbreaker deLEES?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: deLEES on Sun, 27 October 2019, 05:18:17
I love what you are doing with this kit, but please, please, please add UK ISO; it is only a couple extra keys but a deal breaker for me without it :(

Is it these four yellow keycaps?  Do you want them in the base kit so you don't have to purchase NorDeUK?  And/or added to the N9 Lunar Module kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3Kb2uvw.png)


Yeah, would need 8 extra keys total.

Curious: why is it a dealbreaker deLEES?

The 4 highlighted in the base kit is what I'm after. Assuming average cost of other NorDeUK kits, it is a significant additionbal cost when all i need out of it is 4 keys. I can't justify the added expense. Fair if others can, but I can't.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 27 October 2019, 16:25:54
I love what you are doing with this kit, but please, please, please add UK ISO; it is only a couple extra keys but a deal breaker for me without it :(

Is it these four yellow keycaps?  Do you want them in the base kit so you don't have to purchase NorDeUK?  And/or added to the N9 Lunar Module kit?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3Kb2uvw.png)


Yeah, would need 8 extra keys total.

Curious: why is it a dealbreaker deLEES?

The 4 highlighted in the base kit is what I'm after. Assuming average cost of other NorDeUK kits, it is a significant additionbal cost when all i need out of it is 4 keys. I can't justify the added expense. Fair if others can, but I can't.

This is a recurring topic. On one hand it’s only 4 keys, on the other, it’s 4 additional key that the vast majority won’t need or use.

Why doesn’t the basic ISO fulfill your needs? Legends?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:29:33
Lunar has been still constantly present in my thoughts over these past few days and feel free to join the discussion on Discord in #mor-gmk-lunar (https://discord.gg/Xdnt5Xz) if you have any feedback.

In the meantime, the-one-and-only Salvun has just sent me a fantastic surprise...

Salvun's Lunar Footstep Artisan

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[attachimg=2]
[attachimg=3]

Let us know what you think!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — NEW RENDERS ADDED
Post by: Deadboy on Sun, 03 November 2019, 03:17:27
Lunar has been still constantly present in my thoughts over these past few days and feel free to join the discussion on Discord in #mor-gmk-lunar (https://discord.gg/Xdnt5Xz) if you have any feedback.

In the meantime, the-one-and-only Salvun has just sent me a fantastic surprise...

Salvun's Lunar Footstep Artisan

(Attachment Link)
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Let us know what you think!

Beautiful!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: FRANCO on Sun, 03 November 2019, 11:04:22
Oh wuttt...I typically don't really care for Artisan's, but this one oddly has me lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: Deadboy on Sun, 03 November 2019, 11:15:37
This just came up on my feed lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/dr0hc3/nasa_moon_landing_50th_anniversary_ny_times/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 05 November 2019, 02:04:32
This just came up on my feed lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/dr0hc3/nasa_moon_landing_50th_anniversary_ny_times/

Destiny?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 05 November 2019, 02:22:34
So what if I added a Third Stage Alpha kit? I'm guessing this is a really bad idea, especially since the Lunar Module alpha kit will probably run at around 70-80 EUR/USD.

[attachimg=1]

These alphas are 2M with 2B legends — reversed standard colours.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: Ensaum on Tue, 05 November 2019, 20:45:52
So what if I added a Third Stage Alpha kit? I'm guessing this is a really bad idea, especially since the Lunar Module alpha kit will probably run at around 70-80 EUR/USD.

(Attachment Link)

These alphas are 2M with 2B legends — reversed standard colours.

I don't like it tbh.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: kolyz on Tue, 05 November 2019, 21:45:47
So what if I added a Third Stage Alpha kit? I'm guessing this is a really bad idea, especially since the Lunar Module alpha kit will probably run at around 70-80 EUR/USD.

(Attachment Link)

These alphas are 2M with 2B legends — reversed standard colours.

I prefer the original design, personally.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: maximize on Wed, 06 November 2019, 08:59:16
So what if I added a Third Stage Alpha kit? I'm guessing this is a really bad idea, especially since the Lunar Module alpha kit will probably run at around 70-80 EUR/USD.

(Attachment Link)

These alphas are 2M with 2B legends — reversed standard colours.

I prefer the original design, personally.

Original design best design.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: RacerK1 on Wed, 06 November 2019, 23:36:31
+1 for the ortho/40s kit. Love the original design and colorway. The custom legends are great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — Salvun's artisan added
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 08 November 2019, 02:54:49
Currently working to improve novelties. Especially R4 1.5u. Will fill it in nicely once completed.

Scrapping 3rd stage idea for now.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — 2 novelties revamped
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 12 November 2019, 07:44:36
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Two novelties have been re-worked, to better fit in with GMK's guidelines for vector art.

Astronaut's Helmet — it now reflects the moon's surface in the visor.

Neil Armstrong's Footprint — it's now modelled more on the sole of his boot than on the actual print that he left (shadow and all).

Currently working on an even better Lunar Lander for the R4 1.5u keys. The Moon will be moved to R4 1u keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — 2 novelties revamped
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 26 November 2019, 05:55:58
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 28 November 2019, 02:03:27
Only 25% of the people who filled out the IC form are interested in the additional spacebar kit. With those kinds of numbers, I'll have to drop it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:04:30
GMK Lunar more like GMK Apollo
GMK Apollo more like GMK Lunar
I swear these two sets should really swap names at some point and make more sense thematically, but confuse everyone even more :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:09:15
GMK Lunar more like GMK Apollo
GMK Apollo more like GMK Lunar
I swear these two sets should really swap names at some point and make more sense thematically, but confuse everyone even more :p

"GMK Apollo Guidance Computer with DSKY Interface" was a bit too long. 😉
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:12:29
GMK Lunar more like GMK Apollo
GMK Apollo more like GMK Lunar
I swear these two sets should really swap names at some point and make more sense thematically, but confuse everyone even more :p

"GMK Apollo Guidance Computer with DSKY Interface" was a bit too long. 😉
Fair enough. I'm just glad this isn't (trying to) run in December against the Olivian Juggernaut++
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:14:20
GMK Lunar more like GMK Apollo
GMK Apollo more like GMK Lunar
I swear these two sets should really swap names at some point and make more sense thematically, but confuse everyone even more :p

"GMK Apollo Guidance Computer with DSKY Interface" was a bit too long. 😉
Fair enough. I'm just glad this isn't (trying to) run in December against the Olivian Juggernaut++

Well March 2020 was planned originally by me (I think I wrote about that somewhere in this thread) and I just noticed that's the month that Octix decided to run Apollo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:19:30
I guess that makes sense, the ICs came out less than a week apart so I'm guessing one of those 'convergent evolution' sorts of things. Might be more moon artisans made that month too, so it could be a win-win.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: phinix on Fri, 29 November 2019, 06:23:23
I have a feeling like if it had dark grey mods, it would look a lot better, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 29 November 2019, 06:24:24
I have a feeling like if it had dark grey mods, it would look a lot better, but that's just my opinion.

Then it would be just Modern Dolch with different legends.

See a render here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103028.msg2824993#msg2824993
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 02 December 2019, 09:34:53
GMK Lunar more like GMK Apollo
GMK Apollo more like GMK Lunar
I swear these two sets should really swap names at some point and make more sense thematically, but confuse everyone even more :p

"GMK Apollo Guidance Computer with DSKY Interface" was a bit too long. 😉
Fair enough. I'm just glad this isn't (trying to) run in December against the Olivian Juggernaut++

Well March 2020 was planned originally by me (I think I wrote about that somewhere in this thread) and I just noticed that's the month that Octix decided to run Apollo.

GMK DSKY would be a fun name, maybe more distinctive, more memorable, and easier to Google search, even if less easy to pronounce.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 02 December 2019, 09:37:25
GMK DSKY would be a fun name, maybe more distinctive, more memorable, and easier to Google search, even if less easy to pronounce.

I completely agree. However, most will automatically associate "Lunar" with something to do with the Moon, while DSKY is extremely vague for most. I would personally prefer DSKY, but it was suggested I should go with Lunar.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 02 December 2019, 09:39:33
GMK DSKY would be a fun name, maybe more distinctive, more memorable, and easier to Google search, even if less easy to pronounce.

I completely agree. However, most will automatically associate "Lunar" with something to do with the Moon, while DSKY is extremely vague for most. I would personally prefer DSKY, but it was suggested I should go with Lunar.

Makes sense. Another option would be something like GMK Lunar Lander which would still help specify the theme away from "the moon" and towards "NASA/Apollo tech"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Merked on Sun, 22 December 2019, 14:24:50
Is there a high enough interest for the 40s kit? I hope there is because I'd really like to get that with this kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 22 December 2019, 14:25:37
Is there a high enough interest for the 40s kit? I hope there is because I'd really like to get that with this kit

Doesn’t seem to be... 😕
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Merked on Sun, 22 December 2019, 15:02:27
Is there a high enough interest for the 40s kit? I hope there is because I'd really like to get that with this kit

Doesn’t seem to be... 😕

Oh man, that sucks. Any chance at least the split spacebars can be included in the novelties kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: nasp on Sun, 22 December 2019, 15:05:54
Is there a high enough interest for the 40s kit? I hope there is because I'd really like to get that with this kit

Doesn’t seem to be... 😕

+1 for 40's kit. I'll buy 5 if I have to.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 23 December 2019, 04:52:37
Is there a high enough interest for the 40s kit? I hope there is because I'd really like to get that with this kit

Doesn’t seem to be... 😕

+1 for 40's kit. I'll buy 5 if I have to.

Working on an Assembly Kit atm.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 06 January 2020, 07:07:37
I hope you all have had a pleasant ending to 2019 and are all back for 2020. I have a few updates I'd like to share and I'd greatly appreciate some feedback.

1. A few people have been asking for N9 (darker) Home/PgUp/PgDn/End keys for the rightmost column on 65% layouts. I have not yet addressed this directly but I'm still thinking about it.

2. The people from above gave me the idea to expand the novelty kit by a further 6 keys. Please take a look and tell me what you think. I have also taken the liberty of replacing the red with a different shade — it's now RO2 instead of V1 (more red, less orange) and IT IS NOT COLOUR-ACCURATE in the render below. (Please note the arrow keys will have actual arrows, not text — I can't render arrows for some reason.)

[attachimg=1]

3. I'm working on an Assembly Kit (ergo/40s/ortho) with MKUltra (he will be buying out any remaining MOQ, so it should get made regardless). The first draft is below. It is a bit different in style than the other kits, because I'm trying to cater to MKUltra's expectations and style. All feedback is welcome!

[attachimg=2]

Please note:
- the render below does not properly display the arrow keys (they will be actual arrows)
- the render does not properly display some of the concave keys (see above for specifics)
- please give me some feedback on the 3 additional keys in the bottom right corner (are all/any needed?)

[attachimg=3]

I'd be super grateful for someone to go over the kit for errors etc.

4. Langelandia gave me the idea to honor the astronauts that took part in the Apollo 11 mission. If you look at the base kit below...

[attachimg=4]

... and the ZXC keys, they have sub-legends with the date of the mission. The 3 astronauts themselves were Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Michael Collins.

So what if I added a "Buzz" sub-legend to the B key, "Neil" to N, and "Michael" to M? They're all right next to each other (there are no coincidences).

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Mon, 06 January 2020, 08:12:40
I'm begging you to run this with R5 and R0.
Why has noone requested this so far?
Makes me sad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100292.msg2849106#msg2849106).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 06 January 2020, 08:31:25
I'm begging you to run this with R5 and R0.
Why has noone requested this so far?
Makes me sad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100292.msg2849106#msg2849106).

Mixed demand so far. Wonder what the stats are, as in for/against.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Hackerpilot on Mon, 06 January 2020, 11:11:54
3. I'm working on an Assembly Kit (ergo/40s/ortho) with MKUltra (he will be buying out any remaining MOQ, so it should get made regardless).

Now you have my attention.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: KeyCap75 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 11:39:31
I'm begging you to run this with R5 and R0.
Why has noone requested this so far?
Makes me sad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100292.msg2849106#msg2849106).

Mixed demand so far. Wonder what the stats are, as in for/against.

I'd be 100% in on R5/R0...build my satisfaction75 with gmk carbon R5/R0 and absolutely love it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: trogdors_arm on Mon, 06 January 2020, 12:35:04
Assembly Kit for the win!! Love that we’re kitting more sets with ortho mods and alphas together. Cheers!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Mon, 06 January 2020, 12:42:24
I'm begging you to run this with R5 and R0.
Why has noone requested this so far?
Makes me sad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100292.msg2849106#msg2849106).

Mixed demand so far. Wonder what the stats are, as in for/against.

I'd be 100% in on R5/R0...build my satisfaction75 with gmk carbon R5/R0 and absolutely love it!

If R5/R0 I'm 100% in as well, if not I'm 100% out.
Btw, I have that carbon set as well and with it you can experience the cherry profile how it was origanally designed and intended to be. I got TA90 for the same reason.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 06 January 2020, 14:08:40
I'm probably in regardless, but I love that R0/R5.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: deLEES on Mon, 06 January 2020, 14:29:55
Wow... With each updat, I'm loving this more and more.

1. +1 to this idea.
2. YES! They are so nice.
4. Really like that idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: psycherhexic on Mon, 06 January 2020, 17:15:22

1. A few people have been asking for N9 (darker) Home/PgUp/PgDn/End keys for the rightmost column on 65% layouts. I have not yet addressed this directly but I'm still thinking about it.

2. The people from above gave me the idea to expand the novelty kit by a further 6 keys. Please take a look and tell me what you think. I have also taken the liberty of replacing the red with a different shade — it's now RO2 instead of V1 (more red, less orange) and IT IS NOT COLOUR-ACCURATE in the render below. (Please note the arrow keys will have actual arrows, not text — I can't render arrows for some reason.)

3. I'm working on an Assembly Kit (ergo/40s/ortho) with MKUltra (he will be buying out any remaining MOQ, so it should get made regardless). The first draft is below. It is a bit different in style than the other kits, because I'm trying to cater to MKUltra's expectations and style. All feedback is welcome!

Please note:
- the render below does not properly display the arrow keys (they will be actual arrows)
- the render does not properly display some of the concave keys (see above for specifics)
- please give me some feedback on the 3 additional keys in the bottom right corner (are all/any needed?)

I'd be super grateful for someone to go over the kit for errors etc.

4. Langelandia gave me the idea to honor the astronauts that took part in the Apollo 11 mission. If you look at the base kit below...

... and the ZXC keys, they have sub-legends with the date of the mission. The 3 astronauts themselves were Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Michael Collins.

So what if I added a "Buzz" sub-legend to the B key, "Neil" to N, and "Michael" to M? They're all right next to each other (there are no coincidences).


Loving everything so far. Great work.

1. I prefer the lighter option for uniformity.

2. More novelties = better. Looking forward to seeing the new red.

3. Looks okay in my once-over. I am interested in building a redox which uses 1.25u mods on the left and right edges, but I think this is niche (redox) within a niche (ergo), so this is my own problem.

4. This is such a badass idea! Love the dates and the names.

I have a KBD75 and would also love to see R5 and R0. While it is not a competition, and while I will likely buy both sets anyway, this may be another way to differentiate Lunar from Apollo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:33:28
OK guys, I made a poll. I realize that like 3 people have asked for R012345 but here goes...

 NEW POLL for GMK Lunar Profile — R1-1-2-3-4-4 vs. R0-1-2-3-4-5 (https://forms.gle/CRqdWFXGFge1NCcK7).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:40:50
Moridin: I submitted one response. I was allowed to submit more than one though-maybe change that? Does r0 r5 add to the price?

Rest of the community: I like R0/R5. I’d still buy it as it stands now. Anyone dislike it as Much as I like it? Is it a dealbreaker for some of you? I don’t hear much about it vs rare board compatibility kits and such.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY — another novelty revamped
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:55:32
Moridin: I submitted one response. I was allowed to submit more than one though-maybe change that? Does r0 r5 add to the price?

Rest of the community: I like R0/R5. I’d still buy it as it stands now. Anyone dislike it as Much as I like it? Is it a dealbreaker for some of you? I don’t hear much about it vs rare board compatibility kits and such.

It would require logging in to google and I’m trying to get the poll to be as frictionless as possible so please only reply once, kthnxbye. 🙃

OK fixed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED R0-5 PROFILE POLL]
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:51:23
That service module assembly Kit has me all over this. This is an instant buy for me. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED R0-5 PROFILE POLL]
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:05:26
oh dang an ergo kit! Would the ergo kit have r0 & r5 as well?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED R0-5 PROFILE POLL]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 08 January 2020, 02:10:59
oh dang an ergo kit! Would the ergo kit have r0 & r5 as well?

According to the poll, there’s not enough demand, so I don’t think I’ll be going down thst route for this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED R0-5 PROFILE POLL]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 08 January 2020, 17:35:16
Updated the Assembly Kit. Supports more layouts now, including XD75 and various other rare layouts.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 09 January 2020, 15:45:56
Added Assembly Kit to main post. Also, scrapped NorDEUK and 40s kits — there wasn’t enough interest in those.

Regarding the R0/R5 and R1/R4 poll, there are more of the latter.

If you’d like, I could consider making just an R0 row and R5 row supplemental kit in the future. It’s a bit late now for that big of a change so far along into the IC. We’ll be launching the set soon and I don’t want to shake things up drastically.

Let me know what you think. And feel free to join me in Discord -  https://discord.gg/9amFvP (https://discord.gg/9amFvP)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: RETURNISO on Fri, 10 January 2020, 17:59:10
Sad to see the norde kit go. :(

I dont hope bc of the rough fate for the norde kit on phosphorus you will not give it a second chance in lunar! Which is a must buy for me  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Fri, 10 January 2020, 18:08:23
Moridin, put another discord link up here?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 11 January 2020, 03:32:54
https://discord.gg/Cxpj2PG
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 11 January 2020, 03:34:51
Sad to see the norde kit go. :(

I dont hope bc of the rough fate for the norde kit on phosphorus you will not give it a second chance in lunar! Which is a must buy for me  :p

Sadly, I tried for Phosphorous. Some buyers tried to help out. But we only had 20+ kits sold for over 430 base kits. We needed to get closer to 75 at the very least. 😞
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sun, 12 January 2020, 20:04:24
Great kits, looking forward to it.  Only suggestion is for 1800 kits that have a 2u + and 1u + and 1u - with the pg down or somesort in the top right area of the numpad, to maybe have a 1u black novelty to keep the black look of the numpad on those boards.  I guess we could use two of the -'s
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: Possumx on Tue, 14 January 2020, 17:47:20
Will this have Rama or other special Keys/Deskmats?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED ASSEMBLY KIT]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 15 January 2020, 02:07:40
Will this have Rama or other special Keys/Deskmats?

Yes. Please check the thread for Salvun's awesome R1 artisan. Planning deskmats and one other surprise. 😉
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 28 January 2020, 03:43:52
Added new renders (below and main post).

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[attachimg=5]

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For those curious, this is N6 (the yellow I'll be using) compared to the e-yellow Think6.5.

[attachimg=7]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 28 January 2020, 04:38:13
Is there no way that Nord/UK/ISO will make it into the buy?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 28 January 2020, 04:55:52
Is there no way that Nord/UK/ISO will make it into the buy?

No. See above.

Basic ISO support is in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Possumx on Tue, 28 January 2020, 11:54:46
100% Pickup at this point
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Altirix on Tue, 28 January 2020, 12:16:51
would have been interested, im thinking this could look pretty sick using the N9 Alphas Kit with the upcoming GMK Bleached. however, no UK ISO:c imma dream for UK support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Robosculpts on Wed, 29 January 2020, 18:43:08
Assembly kit looking solid. Digging that N9 legends on 2B.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: jebbra on Thu, 30 January 2020, 10:04:04
Solid color and legend man :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 31 January 2020, 19:42:53
Thanks guys!

Ars just posted an article on the AGC. Well worth reading if you’re into it (and I assume you are!):

A deep dive into the Apollo Guidance Computer, and the hack that saved Apollo 14 (https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/01/a-deep-dive-into-the-apollo-guidance-computer-and-the-hack-that-saved-apollo-14/)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [ADDED R0-5 PROFILE POLL]
Post by: Narf on Mon, 03 February 2020, 13:56:12
Updated the Assembly Kit. Supports more layouts now, including XD75 and various other rare layouts.

Really nice coverage for this kit - probably the best coverage I have seen on an Assembly kit. I really appreciate those bottom row 1.5u mods for things like the Sol2. I will go in on an Assembly kit for sure. I really hope it can hit MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 06 February 2020, 09:56:38
Assembly Kit should have no issues hitting MOQ. More info on this soon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 09 February 2020, 05:17:01
Command Module + Lunar Module + Houston! We Have A Problem! on red RAMA M60-A LNY20 renders.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 10 February 2020, 08:29:52
Dear everyone!

If you want the freshet, purest, sweetest, most of out this world updates on GMK Lunar, come see my Stories on Instagram! (https://instagram.com/moridinskeyboards) Yes, we have a GB date!

[attachimg=1] (https://instagram.com/moridinskeyboards)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: dankwiel on Mon, 10 February 2020, 12:59:02
love it so much, gonna be my first gmk keycap :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: hkiri on Mon, 10 February 2020, 13:43:46
I really like the overall look of the set, but I'm not too keen on the mods.
Will see spontanously if this might be a deal breaker for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 02:47:45
love it so much, gonna be my first gmk keycap :thumb:

I remember my first GMK set and the excitement waiting for it. I envy you a little bit...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [NEW RENDERS ADDED]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 02:48:34
I really like the overall look of the set, but I'm not too keen on the mods.
Will see spontanously if this might be a deal breaker for me.

You need to get your space-nerd-hat on! 😉
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY 6 MARCH - 7 APRIL]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 03:13:32
Dear space fans,

It is with the utmost excitement that I give you the preliminary group buy start and end date:

March 6 – April 7

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I don’t foresee any major changes to that date, so we have around 3 weeks to go!

Proxies

Lunar will be available for purchase at TheKey.Company (USA), MyKeyboard.eu (EU), Daily Clack (AUS), and iLumKB (SG).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: PlastikSchnittstelle on Tue, 11 February 2020, 03:32:31
sad no R0&R5  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 03:38:00
sad no R0&R5  :(

Not enough demand unfortunately. Maybe in a few years, if there ever is an R2.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: VXQN on Tue, 11 February 2020, 04:12:21
What colour are the legenda on the Lunar Module (N9 Alphas Kit)? Can't tell if they're white or light grey.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 05:16:18
What colour are the legenda on the Lunar Module (N9 Alphas Kit)? Can't tell if they're white or light grey.

2M. Very light grey.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 11 February 2020, 05:20:03
To clarify:

- keys are 2B
- legends are 2M
- dark alphas are N9 with 2M legends
- yellow accents are N6 with N9 legends where appropriate
- red accents are RO2 with 2M legends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: DrKlaw on Fri, 14 February 2020, 13:31:18
This kit is amazing and I'm in for the Assembly kit for sure, but why does it have no accent keys? Seems like all the flashy renders are showing off the yellows and reds, which you get none of in the assembly kit. Nada. Not one.  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 14 February 2020, 14:42:38
This kit is amazing and I'm in for the Assembly kit for sure, but why does it have no accent keys? Seems like all the flashy renders are showing off the yellows and reds, which you get none of in the assembly kit. Nada. Not one.  :(

To keep the price realistic. We’ve got 77 new molds in this set and unfortunately, something had to give.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 15 February 2020, 03:34:26
Great news! Driftingbunnies will be doing an R2 of Austin! Check out the IC thread here. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104669.0)

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 19 February 2020, 07:53:46
I'm slowly starting to work on the desk pads (900x400 mm, same factory as NK).

Would this design be of interest to you?

Lunar Pad

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 19 February 2020, 07:54:40
I'm slowly starting to work on the desk pads (900x400 mm, same factory as NK).

Would this design be of interest to you?

Lunar Pad

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I like it, pretty cool.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: phinix on Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:59:52
Tried my hand at a few more renders today (still learning so far from perfect or... you know... accurate). I give you what the Lunar Module (N9 alphas) kit could look like...

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(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103028.0;attach=228690;image)

Oh yes, this is it, I want one like that.

Would you be able to make a separate full set including dark alphas and mods?
So we wouldn't have to buy base kit and second alphas?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's Apollo Guidance Computer and DSKY
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:14:02
Would you be able to make a separate full set including dark alphas and mods?
So we wouldn't have to buy base kit and second alphas?

Putting out a second base kit would be very risky. That is why there is a separate alphas kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:14:34
[attachimg=1]

What about this one?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:47:37
I'll be blown away if TKC actually stocks the Service Module Kit (ErgoDox).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 20 February 2020, 17:55:21
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What about this one?

Subtle. Looks great.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: beekey on Fri, 21 February 2020, 00:58:34
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What about this one?
I like it.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:05:46
Another idea...

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: octix on Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:14:26
Another idea...

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I love this one! I feel that the yellow bottom left text is off putting though. Everything else about it is amazing!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:05:25
I love this one! I feel that the yellow bottom left text is off putting though. Everything else about it is amazing!

Agreed, the text needs to be tweaked a bit. Looks great otherwise, imo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:16:14
Another idea...

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The "GMK LUNAR" legend is too big and distracting. Barring that... outstanding imagery — I'll be getting one of these deskmats, whether I join in for the keycap set or not.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:32:49
Another idea...

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The "GMK LUNAR" legend is too big and distracting. Barring that... outstanding imagery — I'll be getting one of these deskmats, whether I join in for the keycap set or not.

I'll drop the branding.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 21 February 2020, 10:13:44
Another idea...

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The "GMK LUNAR" legend is too big and distracting. Barring that... outstanding imagery — I'll be getting one of these deskmats, whether I join in for the keycap set or not.

I'll drop the branding.

Excellent.

Will the deskmats come only on 900×400 mm˛ size, or will there be smaller ones available as well?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:30:37
I’m only planning 900x400 mm ones.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 21 February 2020, 16:03:42
would the there be too much yellow if the surface of the moon on the deskmat is yellow?  Would make it match with the yellow space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 22 February 2020, 04:07:24
I can try. Next week. Also working on two more designs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 22 February 2020, 07:33:37
Man. That new mat is on point. Especially without branding. I think you have a winner there.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 22 February 2020, 07:48:19
I’ll show you guys a few more next week and I think we’ll have to take a vote, so that not more than 2 go up with the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:12:18
The final kit renders for GMK Lunar are here finally! Sorry for taking so long...

(They're compressed and resized for faster loading. You can see the full res files here (https://imgur.com/a/1M7Ee7S).)

Command Module
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Houston! We Have A Problem!
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Landing Pad
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Lunar Module
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Service Module
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: radsan on Mon, 24 February 2020, 04:04:57
Being able to cover two keyboards with an additional module is the best idea ever. Should be implemented more.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: dom on Mon, 24 February 2020, 07:39:16
For me it's ready :P
I love it, and I can't wait!

PS: Great time for "SPACE" sets actually, Lunar & Apollo, perfect duo! :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 24 February 2020, 07:43:39
For me it's ready :P
I love it, and I can't wait!

PS: Great time for "SPACE" sets actually, Lunar & Apollo, perfect duo! :)

Cheers! 🖖🏻

Wish Octix had managed to secure a GB spot 1 month earlier or later — we're going to eat into each other's sales. Mine was set for over 6 months now, so didn't have any way to manoeuvre.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: dom on Mon, 24 February 2020, 07:51:05
Wish Octix had managed to secure a GB spot 1 month earlier or later — we're going to eat into each other's sales. Mine was set for over 6 months now, so didn't have any way to manoeuvre.

A bit bummer for sure with the dates! :(
I hope there will be enough 'geeks' like me who grab both sets without hesitation! Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GROUP BUY MARCH 6 - APRIL 7]
Post by: consumer on Tue, 25 February 2020, 19:22:55
Another idea...

(Attachment Link)
I really like this. Buy this without hesitation
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: platypusduck on Wed, 26 February 2020, 01:34:20
I love how this set is looking! My friend and I want to get in, but the ZXC BNM sublegends are a deal breaker for the alpha sets :/ Would it be possible for those to be optional?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 26 February 2020, 01:43:39
I love how this set is looking! My friend and I want to get in, but the ZXC BNM sublegends are a deal breaker for the alpha sets :/ Would it be possible for those to be optional?

Sorry, too late.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: platypusduck on Wed, 26 February 2020, 01:57:04
I love how this set is looking! My friend and I want to get in, but the ZXC BNM sublegends are a deal breaker for the alpha sets :/ Would it be possible for those to be optional?

Sorry, too late.

Darn, that's very unfortunate... They feel more a part of the novelties set than of the alphas.
It's such a shame about the base kits, but I think I'll at least go for the novelties.
In any case, good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS]
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 26 February 2020, 12:20:42
I think fans of this set might enjoy this:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Narf on Wed, 26 February 2020, 22:49:22
Excellent assembly kit coverage. I'm in for at least one of those. Might get two.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 27 February 2020, 01:37:18
I think fans of this set might enjoy this:

Omega has some other great models out there too but that one is a beauty. https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch/product
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 27 February 2020, 11:12:13
I purposely avoid watch threads so I don't get infected like I did with keys and now it's coming for me anyways ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:24:05
Guys, I have four deskmat designs and vendors are asking me to cut them down to three! Please let me know which one I should drop...

Novelty Pattern

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Astronaut Looking Back at Earth from Moon (still a rough draft)

[attachimg=1]

Authentic Technical Flight Plan

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Flight Plan

[attachimg=3]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: ovokevin on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:28:17
Guys, I have four deskmat designs and vendors are asking me to cut them down to three! Please let me know which one I should drop...

Novelty Pattern

(Attachment Link)

Astronaut Looking Back at Earth from Moon (still a rough draft)

(Attachment Link)

Authentic Technical Flight Plan

(Attachment Link)

Flight Plan

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The astronaut moon one doesn't really for the rest. so maybe drop that?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar [emoji573] — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS[emoji137
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:34:14
Guys, I have four deskmat designs and vendors are asking me to cut them down to three! Please let me know which one I should drop...

Novelty Pattern

(Attachment Link)

Astronaut Looking Back at Earth from Moon (still a rough draft)

(Attachment Link)

Authentic Technical Flight Plan

(Attachment Link)

Flight Plan

(Attachment Link)

The astronaut moon one doesn't really for the rest. so maybe drop that?
Lol. Think it's the best one of them.

If anything drop the icon one. Overdone imo.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:35:53
Crap... posted the wrong icon one...

Edit: Fixed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:49:30
Flight plan > Original Flight Plan > Novelties > Astronaut.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 27 February 2020, 12:54:12
My two favorites are def:

Authentic Technical Flight Plan

Astronaut (Honestly I think this one could benefit from maybe an overlay of technical measurements or something, distance from moon to earth, orbit line, or something, in yellow)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 27 February 2020, 13:08:06
Flight plan > Original Flight Plan > Novelties > Astronaut.

I agree with you in my preferences, but my gut is that the astronaut is gonna be popular but that the flight plans would cannibalize each other
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 27 February 2020, 14:09:04
Flight plan > Original Flight Plan > Novelties > Astronaut.

I agree with you in my preferences, but my gut is that the astronaut is gonna be popular but that the flight plans would cannibalize each other

Yeah, a bunch of people who already went in on Moon Dust and Apollo told me they really liked the Astronaut this set. Know that doesn't mean a ton for GMK Lunar outside of the mat.

The problem is all 4 are different and cool. Ones technical, ones graphicy, ones emotional, and ones gucci. LoL. I could see how they appeal to different people.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 27 February 2020, 19:19:43
The astronaut moon one doesn't really for the rest. so maybe drop that?

I vote against this idea. Lone Astronaut is my favorite.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 27 February 2020, 19:22:46
The problem is all 4 are different and cool. Ones technical, ones graphicy, ones emotional, and ones gucci. LoL. I could see how they appeal to different people.

This, too. But I have a gut feeling that Lone Astronaut will be by far the most popular of the four choices presented so far.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 27 February 2020, 19:55:02
yeah, lone astronaut will hit moq + go way over.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: BrainBunker on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:05:49
My order of favorites from best to worst:

Original Flight Plan > Flight plan> Astronaut > Novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: VoodooBear on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:28:23
I love how this set is looking! My friend and I want to get in, but the ZXC BNM sublegends are a deal breaker for the alpha sets :/ Would it be possible for those to be optional?

Sorry, too late.

Darn, that's very unfortunate... They feel more a part of the novelties set than of the alphas.
It's such a shame about the base kits, but I think I'll at least go for the novelties.
In any case, good luck!

I'm on the same boat. They just look off. Being stock colors maybe some day there'll be a set with the same alphas that you take and put on this kit but that's a big "maybe". Will probably just go with Apollo and the novelties/deskmat from this set. I honestly like this set a lot more, but oh well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: VoodooBear on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:32:28
Guys, I have four deskmat designs and vendors are asking me to cut them down to three! Please let me know which one I should drop...

Novelty Pattern

(Attachment Link)

Astronaut Looking Back at Earth from Moon (still a rough draft)

(Attachment Link)

Authentic Technical Flight Plan

(Attachment Link)

Flight Plan

(Attachment Link)

I'd drop "Astronaut looking back" since it's so similar to the Apollo deskmat. However, It'll probably be a popular design so maybe drop the icons one. "Technical flight plan" I think goes the best with the spirit of the set. If you were looking at additional ideas I think that's the way to go. More technical diagrams, schematics, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:35:21
I love how this set is looking! My friend and I want to get in, but the ZXC BNM sublegends are a deal breaker for the alpha sets :/ Would it be possible for those to be optional?

Sorry, too late.

Darn, that's very unfortunate... They feel more a part of the novelties set than of the alphas.
It's such a shame about the base kits, but I think I'll at least go for the novelties.
In any case, good luck!

I'm on the same boat. They just look off. Being stock colors maybe some day there'll be a set with the same alphas that you take and put on this kit but that's a big "maybe". Will probably just go with Apollo and the novelties/deskmat from this set. I honestly like this set a lot more, but oh well.

Why are the sub legends bothering you so much? They’re a part of the design of the set and a tribute to the astronauts of Apollo 11, making the theme whole.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:43:08
Same with memorabilia sublegends. A kind of deal breaker making a kit not so universal. But I'm late to the IC, so my opinion doesn't really count, if these legends are fixed. I'd put it to the novelties set or put regular keycaps with no sublegends to novelties set, whatever to provide a choice to celebrate or not celebrate the specific date. Currently it's mandatory to show off "appreciation" of theme, however this may drive off those attracted by colorway and not by the theme of the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 01:45:15
Same with memorabilia sublegends. A kind of deal breaker making a kit not so universal. But I'm late to the IC, so my opinion doesn't really count, if these legends are fixed. I'd put it to the novelties set or put regular keycaps with no sublegends to novelties set, whatever to provide a choice to celebrate or not celebrate the specific date. Currently it's mandatory to show off "appreciation" of theme, however this may drive off those attracted by colorway and not by the theme of the set.

Thanks for the explanation. I’d have thought that would not be an issue what with all the custom mods legends from the DSKY interface for the AGC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Fri, 28 February 2020, 04:22:58
Custom mods just have the same single line word(s) as regular ones, and frankly no one cares what's written there, so they don't pop up. Sublegends, however, when applied to alphas unevenly (not every keycap having sublegend) will be very visible and will attract eye immediately. The thing is uneven spread on a keyboard, not the sublegends themselves: check GMK ASCII, where each alpha key has some custom sublegend.
I would be interested in this set (Command, Lunar and novelties kits) if not for sublegends in each of Alphas set. Maybe drop sublegends from Lunar module?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 05:00:28
Custom mods just have the same single line word(s) as regular ones, and frankly no one cares what's written there, so they don't pop up. Sublegends, however, when applied to alphas unevenly (not every keycap having sublegend) will be very visible and will attract eye immediately. The thing is uneven spread on a keyboard, not the sublegends themselves: check GMK ASCII, where each alpha key has some custom sublegend.
I would be interested in this set (Command, Lunar and novelties kits) if not for sublegends in each of Alphas set. Maybe drop sublegends from Lunar module?

Like I mentioned earlier, GMK has already priced this set and the GB starts in a week — there is too little time to make kit changes now. I could have polled this topic a month or two ago but it's too late now. Then there's the price issue — another 12 keys would have brought the prices up even more. Sorry. 😕
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 06:27:16
Finally got proper renders for the pattern and astronaut mats.

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 08:07:19
Guys, thanks for all the feedback and help.

I made a poll to check how many desk mat sales we can accept, which should help deciding which designs will go through to group buy stage.

Please only answer if you are 100% getting one (or more!).

Thanks again for your patience with me. 🙃

GMK Lunar Desk Mat Poll (https://forms.gle/D9y3LYcXWmLSSzCT9)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 28 February 2020, 09:38:50
Finally got proper renders for the pattern and astronaut mats.

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Yup, the astronaut in yellow seals it for me. That's the one I'm getting, and maybe one of the technicals.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: LNSP_DZ on Fri, 28 February 2020, 09:56:48
Saw the suggested deskmat designs. This will be my first GMK set ill own!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: gminso on Fri, 28 February 2020, 20:54:46
can the poll include the astronaut in white? suddenly he became orange. I liked how it was all white and black.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 28 February 2020, 23:19:55
can the poll include the astronaut in white? suddenly he became orange. I liked how it was all white and black.
Agreed, I liked it better in monochrome.

As for the sublegends in the base kit, I for one like them and think they give the set a lot of flavor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: elmo on Sat, 29 February 2020, 14:51:03
Custom mods just have the same single line word(s) as regular ones, and frankly no one cares what's written there, so they don't pop up. Sublegends, however, when applied to alphas unevenly (not every keycap having sublegend) will be very visible and will attract eye immediately. The thing is uneven spread on a keyboard, not the sublegends themselves: check GMK ASCII, where each alpha key has some custom sublegend.
I would be interested in this set (Command, Lunar and novelties kits) if not for sublegends in each of Alphas set. Maybe drop sublegends from Lunar module?

Like I mentioned earlier, GMK has already priced this set and the GB starts in a week — there is too little time to make kit changes now. I could have polled this topic a month or two ago but it's too late now. Then there's the price issue — another 12 keys would have brought the prices up even more. Sorry. 😕

ngl those sublegends are a _big_ yikes and a definite deal breaker for me as well.

and honestly I don't really see how adding standard alpha keys there and putting the sublegend keys into the novelties set instead would affect the price too much as those standard alpha keys wouldn't require any new molds being made.
if anything at all it would make the novelties kit a bit more expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Sat, 29 February 2020, 16:15:17
Custom mods just have the same single line word(s) as regular ones, and frankly no one cares what's written there, so they don't pop up. Sublegends, however, when applied to alphas unevenly (not every keycap having sublegend) will be very visible and will attract eye immediately. The thing is uneven spread on a keyboard, not the sublegends themselves: check GMK ASCII, where each alpha key has some custom sublegend.
I would be interested in this set (Command, Lunar and novelties kits) if not for sublegends in each of Alphas set. Maybe drop sublegends from Lunar module?

Like I mentioned earlier, GMK has already priced this set and the GB starts in a week — there is too little time to make kit changes now. I could have polled this topic a month or two ago but it's too late now. Then there's the price issue — another 12 keys would have brought the prices up even more. Sorry. 😕

ngl those sublegends are a _big_ yikes and a definite deal breaker for me as well.

and honestly I don't really see how adding standard alpha keys there and putting the sublegend keys into the novelties set instead would affect the price too much as those standard alpha keys wouldn't require any new molds being made.
if anything at all it would make the novelties kit a bit more expensive.

Another price quote from GMK will incur a pricing penalty. And these topics should have been brought up 1-4 months ago. 😉
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: VoodooBear on Sun, 01 March 2020, 00:57:54
Why are the sub legends bothering you so much? They’re a part of the design of the set and a tribute to the astronauts of Apollo 11, making the theme whole.

Just what FearsomeCubedWarrior said, simply they look weird. As for the "theme" I just thought that it was an AGC/DSKY themed set, not a broader "moon landing" set. So having the date and the names of the three astronauts randomly in sublegends doesn't make sense to me. But you're the designer and it's your set so I defer to you on what's "within theme" or not.

As for the timeframe, I'm honestly just not in here a lot. I loved the set when it first showed up back in October/November and just had it on my radar. Never crossed my mind the decision to add 6 new molds for some funky looking subs would be made.

But hey, like you said, too late to make changes now. So it's all water under the bridge. I still think Apollo + Lunar novelties/deskmat will make an awesome combo so I'm looking forward to that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Sun, 01 March 2020, 05:20:27
Why are the sub legends bothering you so much? They’re a part of the design of the set and a tribute to the astronauts of Apollo 11, making the theme whole.

Just what FearsomeCubedWarrior said, simply they look weird. As for the "theme" I just thought that it was an AGC/DSKY themed set, not a broader "moon landing" set. So having the date and the names of the three astronauts randomly in sublegends doesn't make sense to me. But you're the designer and it's your set so I defer to you on what's "within theme" or not.

As for the timeframe, I'm honestly just not in here a lot. I loved the set when it first showed up back in October/November and just had it on my radar. Never crossed my mind the decision to add 6 new molds for some funky looking subs would be made.

But hey, like you said, too late to make changes now. So it's all water under the bridge. I still think Apollo + Lunar novelties/deskmat will make an awesome combo so I'm looking forward to that.

Gotcha. There were requests for those, and I liked the idea, pushing the boundaries of stuff that hasn’t been made before, to make a unique set for a unique keyboard (Austin R2 is coming soon and Lunar all most perfectly matches e-yellow finishes too!).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Sunhwan Jeong on Tue, 03 March 2020, 02:36:42
I confirmed the base-kit is $160 from TKC.
Is this true? Is it because of the new imprint in modifiers?
It is surprising that it is so expensive even though it is stock color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 03 March 2020, 03:26:07
I confirmed the base-kit is $160 from TKC.
Is this true? Is it because of the new imprint in modifiers?
It is surprising that it is so expensive even though it is stock color.

GMK Lunar has 77 new molds, which GMK has graciously agreed to participate in financially, which allowed us to create this kit and offer it at this price. The colours themselves have no bearing on the price itself — stock or pantone just influences MOQ, not price.

So, while the price is high, please compare it to other kits, which have separate numpads, which are actually more expensive without having custom molds made. As an example, GMK Apollo is 120 USD for base kit + 50 USD for numpad kit = 170 USD. Lunar is 160 USD for everything. So while the price might be shocking to you initially, it's actually not that bad, especially considering all the custom work GMK will be doing.

This truly will be a unique set in that regard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: phinix on Tue, 03 March 2020, 04:43:02
Would it be possible to split base and numpad?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 03 March 2020, 05:32:27
Would it be possible to split base and numpad?

Not at this time and it doesn’t make financial sense for this kit, especially since the numpad kit alone would cost around 50 USD while the base kit would be only around 10-15 USD cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MARCH 6 - APRIL 7][KITS👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Tue, 03 March 2020, 08:28:03
GMK Lunar Pricing

Dear everyone,

I just received the final prices from all the vendors today. Salvun's artisans prices are still not 100% certain, so I will refrain from speculation.

— GMK Lunar has 77 new molds, which should make this one of the most unique GMK sets ever made.
— MOQ for the Command Module (base kit) is set at 150.
— Child kits are at 100.
— The Command Module + Lunar Module will allow you to cover 2 keyboards (one with split backspace etc.).
— I would also like to take this chance to thank GMK for all their help in graciously participating financially in this set, to help bring the price down, as well as the vendors, who have minimised their profits, to make it easier for all of you guys.
— The Command Module (base kit) offers completely custom modifiers and the whole design is based around the Apollo Guidance Computer, DSKY interface, and pays tribute to the upcoming 51st Anniversary of Apollo 11's moon mission.
— The Assembly Kit is designed to cover as many layouts, as was feasible. It's MOQ has already been bought out and it will be made.


The vendors participating in this group buy are as follows:

— The Key Company (USA): https://thekey.company/products/gmk-lunar
— MyKeyboard.eu (EU): https://mykeyboard.eu/
— Daily Clack (AUS): https://dailyclack.com/products/gmk-lunar
— iLumKB (SG/Asia): https://ilumkb.com/

Pricing is as follows...

USA

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 160 USD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 75 USD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 65 USD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 25 USD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 165 USD

Europe

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 151 EUR
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 70 EUR
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 57 EUR
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 20 EUR
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 160 EUR

Australia

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 242 AUD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 113 AUD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 98 AUD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 38 AUD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 250 AUD

Asia

Command Module (base kit | 149 keys) — 224 SGD
Houston! We Have a Problem! (novelty kit | 37 keys) — 105 SGD
Lunar Module (alphas kit | 59 keys) — 91 SGD
Landing Pad (Spacebars | 10 keys) — 35 SGD
Service Module (assembly kit | 133 keys) — 230 SGD

Sidenote: The base kit, at 160 USD, with included numpad, is still cheaper than GMK Phosphorous was with a separate base kit (129 USD base + 34 USD numpad = 163 USD) and GMK Apollo (120 USD base + 50 USD numpad = 170 USD).

Kits

Command Module (Core Kit)
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Houston! We Have A Problem! (Novelty Kit)
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Landing Pad (Spacebar Kit)
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Lunar Module (N9 Alphas Kit)
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Service Module (Assembly Kit)
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Group buy starts...

USA — March 6, 9:00 pm EST (e.g. New York)
Europe — March 7, 3:00 am CET (e.g. Paris)
Asia — March 7, 10:00 am SGT (e.g. Singapore)
Australia — March 7, 12:00 pm QTZ (e.g. Brisbane)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MAR 6 - APR 7][PRICING👇🏼]
Post by: psycherhexic on Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:24:42
Can't wait for these keys! Great prices and looking forward to the unique alphas and slick novelties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Lunar 🚀 — inspired by NASA's AGC and DSKY [GB MAR 6 - APR 7][PRICING👇🏼]
Post by: Moridin on Wed, 04 March 2020, 10:32:32
GROUP BUY THREAD IS LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104965)