[IC] GMK SoWaRe - Replica or Inspired?

[Blackehart]

Hooray!

That "thing" on MD is an abomination.

[olijuice]

I like the current mockup in beige. It looks really nice.

[Limewirelord]

Beige would be better mostly because we'll already have had the alphas via Hyperfuse and eventually Massdrop's "Sky Dolch" set.  Might as well get something we haven't gotten yet.

[ghostjuggernaut]

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?

They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.

Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

[tjcaustin]

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?

They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.

Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Lol wat?

How many times did I say I liked the set?  And exactly where in the op does it say anyone but me can say what they think about beige vs gray?

And either way rgb doesn't make soware.

[demik]

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?

They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.

Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Uh. These IC are usually a place to input your criticism so when it goes production a good percentage of people are happy. Most OPs encourage it. If not, they'd try to run the GB already.

[esoomenona]

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[Den441]

I have a soware set and can tell you it uses the SP colors BBQ for the legends on the mods and BBJ for the legends on the alphas. GMK doesn't have colors like that so this would indeed be an "inspired" set if it uses UN6037. Nothing wrong with that, but UN6037 has much more green in it than those SP colors. The render looks awesome, but I don't think it accurately depicts UN6037. Even so, I still think this set would look good.  I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

edit - I think if people truly want a SoWaRe replica, they should just use SP. Maybe go with the Cherry legends this time and take the WYSE out of the equation. I think that would look great too.

[byker]

We just finished criticizing Massdrop's set because it was true SoWaRe and everyone wanted a legit replica, then this IC comes out and isn't a replica. Why is it called SoWaRe?

 

We originally wanted to start the interest check with two final mockups, one inspired set (beige), one replica set (grey). The only reason that we started the interest check before we have final mockups is to let people know our intentions of running it, as there is a massdrop group buy for a similar set. If poeple were buying that, then we wouldn't run this. However, from interest so far, it looks like people want a GMK Soware run by geekhackers. The other benefit of starting it early is that we can get feedback on what everyone wants to see in this set. And if you read the interest check, we aren't saying this is a beige set, it could be if people like it, or it could be replica soware, but unfortunately that is all we have the mockup for right now.


All we ask is that you let us know via the google form what you would prefer, so that we can change this set to best fit GH's wants!

As I said earlier moose, the only mockup I have to offer right now is not the replica mockup, as that would likely require custom colours. This IC is to determine if the community would prefer a replica set or an inspired set. It is called SoWaRe because we are willing to run a replica SoWaRe set, or a set inspired by SoWaRe, in which case we would change the name. If GMK wasn't away I would have waited until I had a replica mockup, but unfortuntaely there is a 2 week wait, so I wanted to start this to gather interest

[demik]

I personally find the beige ugly. Replica soware or bust

[LechnerDE]

I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

lol

I just read the magic 3 letters in the topic and was sold 

[Dreamre]

Gray and please no front printed legends...please!!!!

[Blackhawk]

After staring at my Wyse caps, Dolch caps, and pic of gmk colors, I think that 2B might be the best choice for mods and maybe 2M for alphas.  GMK doesn't appear to have much in the way of light greys.

From what I can tell, CC for the modifiers and 2M for the alphas might be the closes match. This is pure speculation though...

[ghostjuggernaut]

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?

They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.

Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Lol wat?

How many times did I say I liked the set?  And exactly where in the op does it say anyone but me can say what they think about beige vs gray?

And either way rgb doesn't make soware.

I apologize for misunderstanding your response.  However, RGB and Yellow arrows are parts of the original soware.

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I'd love a full replica... hmmm

Also wait what Massdrop is doing so ware?

They have a "sky dolch" going on:
https://www1.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-sky-dolch

Not too happy about it, tbh.

Oh. screw that crap I want legit so ware.

Then why are you here?  Not like this is legit soware either, what with it's beige caps.

I like how this is claimed to be real soware in two other places and here?  "Oh we're open to doing original soware"  If it's original soware, you don't need to be sold on it, it should be that way already. 

EDIT: this isn't to say this is a bad set or whatever; it's actually kinda handsome in it's own way, but this isn't much closer to soware than MD's skolch (dolware?) is.  Maybe call it beiware if you keep colors as they are.

This is simply inspired by SoWaRe, as GMK simply does not have the exact same colours of the original, so I'd say a beige or light Grey (I prefer light Grey) will have to be a suitable alternative.

That's great and fine.  Don't call it and sell it as "real soware" if it's not.  It'd be like if the classic beige set suddenly got gray alphas, but was still being claimed to be classic beige because it was inspired by classic beige.

Again, nice set.  Still not soware, stop trying to hijack and sabotage other buys calling this real soware.

EDIT: I legit think this is a set that would look good on my white hhkb and am contemplating getting it (and skolch for my gray hhkb), but I don't like the adversarial bs around the two already.  No one pulls this when two other sets that don't look the same get started at the same time, why start it here.

Did you ever stop to think that when he said "real" he meant that this set includes the RGB?  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this post, but if you aren't interested in the set, then don't post in the Interest Check.  Nobody asked for you to come in here and bash other peoples opinions.

Uh. These IC are usually a place to input your criticism so when it goes production a good percentage of people are happy. Most OPs encourage it. If not, they'd try to run the GB already.

I understand that, and agree.

[jdcarpe]

Filled the survey. Not a fan of the beige alphas, but would definitely buy a true GMK replica.

[ATXTider]

After staring at my Wyse caps, Dolch caps, and pic of gmk colors, I think that 2B might be the best choice for mods and maybe 2M for alphas.  GMK doesn't appear to have much in the way of light greys.

From what I can tell, CC for the modifiers and 2M for the alphas might be the closes match. This is pure speculation though...

Yeah, the perfect shade is probably half way between CC and 2B  )  Either way, I'd be in for a set or two!

[archer]

Survey submitted!

+1 for light grey alphas

SoWaRe has always been my fav colorway; I'd love to see a true GMK replica! (I'd buy several sets )

[VesperSAINT]

Thanks for the passionate feedback in this Interest Check, guys

So far, Grey does seem to be the more popular pick right now, even though Beige is not too far off as well ~

There could be more possible options in the near future with further interest, so please keep giving us feedback!

Please do fill out the Google survey, if you are interested ~ Even though we are reading everyone's posts, it's much easier to keep track when it's documented in there :3

We greatly appreciate it!


~ I'll try to get back to ppl's individual questions later tonight when I have more free time ~

[Bromono]

I would love to start seeing sets being made to fit the real force. I know it's pretty much impossible since GMK doesn't make 6u spacebars (that I know of) but with Bunnys sliders coming out soon... Need some GMK on dat beast.

[Karura]

I have a soware set and can tell you it uses the SP colors BBQ for the legends on the mods and BBJ for the legends on the alphas. GMK doesn't have colors like that so this would indeed be an "inspired" set if it uses UN6037. Nothing wrong with that, but UN6037 has much more green in it than those SP colors. The render looks awesome, but I don't think it accurately depicts UN6037. Even so, I still think this set would look good.  I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

Thank you for the colour codes!

I just happen to have both SP and GMK colour-rings, and could definitely lend a hand to byker with the colour selection.

Edit: Den, do you know what are the base colour codes for the alphas and mods?

[Karura]

Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:


Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:


I'll let the photos do the talking.

[Sent]

I didn't read the OP, but I'm in.

I'd be in for light grey. Keepin it OG.

What mah peeps said.

[ATXTider]

Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:

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Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:

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I'll let the photos do the talking.

Thanks for the photos of the legend colors!  What are the close matches you see to GSX (alphas) and GTD (mods)?

[Den441]

Just spent some time comparing the colours, so we can hopefully end the discussion on UN6037 being too different for SoWaRe.

UN6037 on the left, BBQ on the right:

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Additionally, thanks to ghostjuggernaut, who happens to own both:

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I'll let the photos do the talking.

Wow it almost looks like the same color on my monitor from those pics. I still say UN6037 is a little bit greener though in person just looking at it. I think you could use UN6037 for the legends on the mods though. It is close enough there that it does not justify the cost of a custom color. I can't think of the GMK color code used on the Dolch alphas, but those Dolch alphas match my soware mods. I'm pretty sure that was what was used in the render for the mods already. However, you would still need something for the BBJ on the legends for the alphas. I don't think UN6037 will cut it on those, and you'll end up with alphas that look very similar to what feng has on his GMK cyan set.
edit - Karura I don't know the Sp color codes for the mods and the alphas, but I do know the the mods for soware match my GMK Dolch spacebar/alphas almost perfectly like I said above. The only thing left to figure out is the color of the alphas. I will try but it is hard for me to discern SP greys from each other

[Den441]

Ok, so I found out that dolch alpha color is "CC." So UN6037 on CC for the mods....that is pretty much a dead ringer. N9 is used in the render for the mods, so I think that is too dark. That is also the same color on the dolch mods.

Then for the alphas, some color like SP''s BBJ on some color like SP's GSX. I'm about 80% sure it is GSX that was used. I know it isn't GSL because that is what round 4 retro used (I own it) and it is lighter than my soware alphas. GMK might have a light grey that you can use, but I don't know about BBJ.

[njbair]

I'm honestly having a hard time following all the color codes being tossed around here, but I will say that I really like the idea of being able to mix and match these with GMK Hyperfuse, if that's possible while staying reasonably close to the original SoWaRe.

As for beige vs. light gray, I don't have a preference.

[zabuza1997]

Light grey and you got me in!!!! 

[Den441]

Hmm I just remembered that GMK Hyperfuse also uses UN6037 on CC for the mods. I haven't seen a picture of that set yet, but they should look almost exactly like the soware mods given how closely UN6037 mimics BBQ. You could also use 2M like hyperfuse for the alphas' light grey.

Indeed, that would make this share many things with GMK hyperfuse. The difference would be that this set would only use that mod color scheme for some of the mods because of the RGBY on CC for the shift keys, bottom row, and arrow cluster. And of course the other differences are the solid F-Stripe and the BBJ custom color. I think it would be different enough personally. Plus, the original hyperfuse dcs was pretty similar to the original soware which came before it. Even back then the sets shared mods and alphas of the same colors. So now everything comes full circle! That is my opinion on the colors for this set. If that custom color and the associated MOQ is viable, then the color scheme  I talked about should be a 95% replica of the original SoWaRe. Of course there is no "WYSE" font, so it is more like "Sora Cherry".

Unfortunately the custom color may not be viable, but if that happens then I would still like to see an "inspired" set that takes some risks color-wise to make up for it.  I promise I'm done talking about color codes now

[nubbinator]

Hmm I just remembered that GMK Hyperfuse also uses UN6037 on CC for the mods. I haven't seen a picture of that set yet, but they should look almost exactly like the soware mods given how closely UN6037 mimics BBQ.

Ergo my statement:

Another possibility is doing the RGBY mods in CC and running that with the Alphas.  Since a **** ton of people bought Hyperfuse, if someone wanted to do SoWare instead, they'd only really have to swap the Alphas.  That restricts the number of boards you could use the set on, but makes for a cheaper set.  Just an idea.

[demik]

i think they should go with another colorway period. hyperfuse is already close to soware as is.

orange crush orange crush orange crush!

[nubbinator]

Not a fan of orange crush, but still would love to see some new colorways. 

[demik]

well you drink watermelon mint

[nubbinator]

well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.

[demik]

well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.

and you drive the asian ford

[nubbinator]

well you drink watermelon mint

And you drive a Ford.  I guess both of us make some poor life decisions.

and you drive the asian ford

Which, apparently, has some sort of ****ty driver attraction field

[demik]

CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to get your insurance with no deductible

[nubbinator]

CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to your insurance with no deductible

I have literally never had an accident until recently, then I had two ****ing dumbasses cause them.  This last one beyond pissed me off since he's apparently blind and deaf.

I'm seriously considering selling my car and getting a ****ty beater if there's one more accident.

[demik]

CHECK MATE

dude the way u get into accidents u need to your insurance with no deductible

I have literally never had an accident until recently, then I had two ****ing dumbasses cause them.  This last one beyond pissed me off since he's apparently blind and deaf.

I'm seriously considering selling my car and getting a ****ty beater if there's one more accident.

oh no. that's the last step of hipsterism.

the beater car.

[HelixDan]

here is the question

U9 is light grey?? or other is light grey??

which one is the light grey? 

[Polymer]

Another +1 for, if you're going to call it SoWaRe to use the right colors...

No problem w/ the colors you selected...(I wouldn't get it with beige not that my opinion should matter) but don't call it SoWaRe...call it something else..

[byker]

here is the question

U9 is light grey?? or other is light grey??

which one is the light grey? 

U9 is the beige colour shown in the mockup in the OP. If we chose to go with light grey, than the final colour has yet to be decided on.

Another +1 for, if you're going to call it SoWaRe to use the right colors...

No problem w/ the colors you selected...(I wouldn't get it with beige not that my opinion should matter) but don't call it SoWaRe...call it something else..

 


We understand this, and would never run a different keyset while calling it SoWaRe. This IC is to determine if enough people want a group buy for this, and if they do, would they prefer SoWaRe, or a similar keyset (unnamed).

[dutC4]

Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets 

[user 18]

Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets 

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Note that GMK renders are notoriously colour-inaccurate. The colours in the render do not reflect what the set would actually look like.

[swimmingbird]

Render looks amazing with beige so that's what I voted for, it reminds me of a PS1 controller. I hope there can be a second 2.25" shift included or in a kit so FC660 owners wouldn't have to buy two full sets 

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Note that GMK renders are notoriously colour-inaccurate. The colours in the render do not reflect what the set would actually look like.

Yeah the GMK renders tend to be pretty awful
With UN6037 it looks like the colour was picked by Helen Keller

[Armagedda]

Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?

[swimmingbird]

Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?

The community takes its colorways seriously. There are people out there that have spent a lot of time and effort developing their own colorways such as Matteo and Bunny. There is sort of a code of respect that says first of all you should respect the original designers wishes surrounding the sets and do not tamper with other people's designs.

SoWaRe is pretty close to legendary as it is a relatively old set and there is not much of it around

I'm fairly new though so I might miss out on some other reasons though

[Armagedda]

Everybody seems to be getting pretty worked up over this. I think both options, replica and inspired, look great and would consider buying either.

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over the matter though? Was SoWaRe some sort of iconic set? If so why are you guys getting so agitated? If you don't own one of the original sets, this set won't be the original either. If it's purism to keep the name of a colour set true to its meaning within the community I get it, but I don't see why anyone would be getting antsy about a similar set being made with beige in the place of grey.

Am I missing something? Was SoWaRe a prestigious set?

The community takes its colorways seriously. There are people out there that have spent a lot of time and effort developing their own colorways such as Matteo and Bunny. There is sort of a code of respect that says first of all you should respect the original designers wishes surrounding the sets and do not tamper with other people's designs.

SoWaRe is pretty close to legendary as it is a relatively old set and there is not much of it around

I'm fairly new though so I might miss out on some other reasons though

Yeah I know about the passion for design around here. Just wasn't sure why everyone was getting so intense about this set in particular.

I can see it though, it's a damn nice set and I want some of it too (SoWaRe that is). Will be interested to see how this plan turns out.

[StormyMonday]

I'm definitely a fan of the beige. If the gray looks anything like the version on MD, that would be unfortunate.

I'm also not a big fan of the icons. Would prefer old school text, or text + icons.

[trenzafeeds]

I'm definitely a fan of the beige. If the gray looks anything like the version on MD, that would be unfortunate.

I'm also not a big fan of the icons. Would prefer old school text, or text + icons.

I can back you up on wanting the old school text, that would be awesome

[KHAANNN]

I LOVE this set, would join 100%, I love those arrows, that R3 Control

Some suggestions:

1) 1.25 "Control" as "Ctrl" - so it doesn't clash with the R3 1.75 "Control" when they are used together, I use the 1.75 Control's to actually control stuff for example, while the "Ctrl" is for signals, I don't know what others think, but regardless off my usage, "Ctrl" also seems more elegant
2) Lined F/J's please :) (as extras, alternatives)
3) (selfish) Side prints suck in general