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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #500 on: Wed, 05 July 2023, 08:23:43 »

We provoked rvss into this war


I am guessing that very very few people would agree with this conclusion.
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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #501 on: Wed, 05 July 2023, 08:43:11 »

We provoked rvss into this war


I am guessing that very very few people would agree with this conclusion.


If you watch main stream media, Sure.  Chomsky on the other hand.



The general population greatly misunderstand how the world actually works. This is deliberate by design.

Every country is ruled by their military industrial oligarchs.  The monopoly on violence is what dooms us all.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #502 on: Wed, 05 July 2023, 10:05:14 »

Chomsky on the other hand.


The Chomsky video is terribly frightening but he was focused on how the West has utilized the Ukraine war for political ends. It is true that a moderately stable global commerce has been shattered and rearranged to the benefit (mostly) of the US and China - but at a colossal cost to the entire human race, including us.

But I disagree that Putin was pushed or coerced into starting the war. He was generally recognized as the richest man in the world, by far, and his country was easily selling everything that it produced, primarily to Europe but worldwide. His military has used the internet to dramatically warp the political and social fabric of the US to the detriment of democracy and freedom. There was absolutely no reason for him to start a war in Ukraine beyond incalculable hubris, and in doing it he has lost everything. He will spend the rest of his life as a pariah and a laughingstock.

Chomsky's claim that we deliberately goaded Putin into it to "degrade the capability of our main military enemy" is pretty far-fetched in my opinion. Besides, our main military enemy is China and has been for decades. Sure, the Russians are sitting on a big pile of nukes, but would they have ever used them in a stable world? How would attacking any other country with nuclear weapons benefit Russia?

I keep going back to Stephen Pinker's observation in The Better Angels of Our Nature, written before the rise of Trumpism, that wars are in decline because they are simply bad for business. The decline of democracies and the rise of plutocracies has profoundly perverted that principle since 2016.
 

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #504 on: Wed, 05 July 2023, 12:34:46 »
Here Chomsky explains, who's most responsible for starting this war.  Unfortunately, it was us.

Pv7in is a di(khead and not blameless, but the entirety of US foreign policy / aggression had been the primary driver to tipping point.



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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #505 on: Sun, 16 July 2023, 08:04:48 »
Batt1e Updat:


Az0v batallion,  look, people have to stop pretending they're not naz1s, because they clearly are,  they're just naz15 who are fighting "FOR" the ameri(an backed side of vkra1ne at the moment.  In the same way that Rv55ia has hired their own naz1 m1litia, wagn3r.

In reality, naz1 or not,  these are just local warlords with flexible loyalties.

America has no problem backing naz1 death squads as long as it works with our agenda, as in atlanti(1sm.

This is dangerous, because it's an unwinnable war that's a tinderbox for annihilating europe.

Vkra1n has 15 nv(lear rea(tors.   Push comes to Shove,  even 1 blown station is enough to blanket ALL of europe with thyroid cancer/leukemia/hard cancers.

Zapor12hia would be approximately 6x-20x the contamination of (hernoby1



The Vkra1n1an wheat,   yea we get that people are hungry, but you don't want to eat vkran1an wheat unless you're starv1ng.

The largest coverup, has been that (hernoby1 contaminated approximately 40% of europe. Especially Vkra1ne and Be1arvs, 


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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #506 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 14:03:39 »
Yevgeny Prigozhin dead in a plane crash?

Surprise !
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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #507 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 16:17:44 »
Yevgeny Prigozhin dead in a plane crash?

Surprise !


We don't really know if these things actually happened, it's just what they tell us.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #508 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 19:02:47 »
Yevgeny Prigozhin dead in a plane crash?

Surprise !

I thought there was that video where he said he was still in africa like a day ago. Everything about this is strange, but it does make sense for putin to kill a political enemy who tried to start a coup.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #509 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 19:38:50 »
We may never know. If he is smart he is on the other side of the world recovering from plastic surgery on his face.
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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #510 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 20:54:46 »
We may never know. If he is smart he is on the other side of the world recovering from plastic surgery on his face.

Yeah that would be the smartest play when against the richest man in the world.

Remember seeing that face surgery stuff in cowboy bebop, didn't work for him though.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #511 on: Wed, 23 August 2023, 22:20:56 »
We may never know. If he is smart he is on the other side of the world recovering from plastic surgery on his face.

Yeah that would be the smartest play when against the richest man in the world.

Remember seeing that face surgery stuff in cowboy bebop, didn't work for him though.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #512 on: Fri, 08 September 2023, 11:50:00 »
I have been hearing about this stuff for a while, and it is pretty disturbing ....

https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #513 on: Fri, 08 September 2023, 17:09:53 »
He didn't want to escalate things.

It's a war and you just severely limited one sides ability to return fire...
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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #514 on: Fri, 08 September 2023, 22:04:18 »
He didn't want to escalate things.

It's a war and you just severely limited one sides ability to return fire...

Remember it was the pentagon who said, we're not denying airspace. The reason is also escalation, there's no way to deny airspace without shooting into their side.  And if we did that, it would be all-out-war.

And if we did war, we would ALL LOSE.

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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #515 on: Sat, 09 September 2023, 07:01:03 »

He didn't want to escalate things.


we would ALL LOSE.


The point is that this  unelected  rich kid crybaby has the power of a one-man nation-state, and can wield his power according to nothing more than whim.
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Re: U|<ra1ne 2o22
« Reply #516 on: Sat, 09 September 2023, 09:42:47 »
The point is that this  unelected  rich kid crybaby has the power of a one-man nation-state, and can wield his power according to nothing more than whim.

The danger ontop of crazed pvtin himself is our own hypocricy,

Nohm Chomsky's assessment of our own presidents and foreign interference