R4 Zealio Switch/Zeal60RGB/Zealencio Silencing Clips/Transparent Screw-in Stabs!

[tuantruong]

Just got new R4 prototypes in. Vertical wobble is gone, horizontal wobble feels about the same as regular Cherry right now. Will get Mr. Munch to get a second opinion and prep a video.

Finally! That horizontal wobble feels has stopped me from buying some more that purple magic since round 1. Thanks for the hard work Zeal.

[Geroximo]

What is up with all the wobble complaints?
I still have some R2 67g and they do not wobble any more than Cherry switches.
Looking forward to compare the R4s.

[romevi]

What is up with all the wobble complaints?
I still have some R2 67g and they do not wobble any more than Cherry switches.
Looking forward to compare the R4s.

Because the people who complain have switches that wobble, and you don't.

[tofgerl]

Right, but they're molded in the same machines with the same process. I really think this is more a tolerance issue. Some people tolerate more wobble without calling it a problem.

[Geroximo]

Sometimes lucky ...

[Data]

Did the clear stabs never get a clever Zeal name?  I see the silencing clips are Zealencios, which is great.

No Zealistabs?  Ztabilizers?  Stabilizeals?  This makes me sad. 

[jal]

Did the clear stabs never get a clever Zeal name?  I see the silencing clips are Zealencios, which is great.

No Zealistabs?  Ztabilizers?  Stabilizeals?  This makes me sad. 

Steals!

[balthaz4r]

100 67g's please.

I've been pleased so far with the 78gs and the 65gs, but I want something slightly different.

[TeeBaginDragon]

Please forgive the n00b question but I am currently using a board with R3 78g zealios and now that the wobble is gone I am thinking about buying some R4s and putting them in.  I don't want to desolder the switches so would there be any issues leaving the bottom of the switch R3 and having everything (spring, stem, etc) else R4?  I'm assuming this would not be a problem at all... thanks!

[BAS1C]

Hey zeal,

Any idea when R2 of the PCB might happen? I'm thinking of building a custom 60% and want to roll with the purple delicious pcb.

[Dreamre]

Please forgive the n00b question but I am currently using a board with R3 78g zealios and now that the wobble is gone I am thinking about buying some R4s and putting them in.  I don't want to desolder the switches so would there be any issues leaving the bottom of the switch R3 and having everything (spring, stem, etc) else R4?  I'm assuming this would not be a problem at all... thanks!

I'm sure it's only the stem that was tweaked. You should have a problem.

[iamtootallforthis]

Hey zeal,

Any idea when R2 of the PCB might happen? I'm thinking of building a custom 60% and want to roll with the purple delicious pcb.

I believe he stated that it would be early next year before for the re release of the PCB but no specific dates.

[nugglets]

Please forgive the n00b question but I am currently using a board with R3 78g zealios and now that the wobble is gone I am thinking about buying some R4s and putting them in.  I don't want to desolder the switches so would there be any issues leaving the bottom of the switch R3 and having everything (spring, stem, etc) else R4?  I'm assuming this would not be a problem at all... thanks!

I'm sure it's only the stem that was tweaked. You should have a problem.

I'm fairly certain it was mentioned somewhere that the top housing was changed as well, but I could be wrong.

Either way, I wouldn't imagine the leaf or bottom housing plays a role so it should be OK. But best to get clarification from Zeal.

[BAS1C]

Hey zeal,

Any idea when R2 of the PCB might happen? I'm thinking of building a custom 60% and want to roll with the purple delicious pcb.

I believe he stated that it would be early next year before for the re release of the PCB but no specific dates.

Ah right on.

[Zeal]

Both switch tops and stem will get tweaked. Majority of improvements will come from the stem.

[yoft]

I'm considering putting in an order, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to pull the trigger. Do you know when this round is expected to close? Thanks!

[meiosis]

I'm considering putting in an order, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to pull the trigger. Do you know when this round is expected to close? Thanks!

In this hobby, even if you don't decide to use it, it retails like 95% of it's value incase you decide to resell it. Make sure you know what weight fits you.

[Tom_Kazansky]

I'm considering putting in an order, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to pull the trigger. Do you know when this round is expected to close? Thanks!

well...

GB is expected to open until end of September

9/27 already, so... hurry up!

[yoft]

I'm considering putting in an order, but I'm not sure when I'll be able to pull the trigger. Do you know when this round is expected to close? Thanks!

well...

GB is expected to open until end of September

9/27 already, so... hurry up!

Yeah I saw that, I just wasn't sure if that's still the scheduled close since I thought I read that previous rounds had dates moved around. But I'll just plan on end of September!

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[Checkfield]

Should I get PCB mounts if I'm building an infinity ergodox? Sorry if obvious question, this is my first keyboard build.

[RocketGruntJake]

Should I get PCB mounts if I'm building an infinity ergodox? Sorry if obvious question, this is my first keyboard build.

The infinity uses costar stabilizers so no, the clear screw on stabilizers would not work

[Shiftshape]

Did the clear stabs never get a clever Zeal name?  I see the silencing clips are Zealencios, which is great.

No Zealistabs?  Ztabilizers?  Stabilizeals?  This makes me sad. 

Ztabealizers, obviously. 

[BAS1C]

Did the clear stabs never get a clever Zeal name?  I see the silencing clips are Zealencios, which is great.

No Zealistabs?  Ztabilizers?  Stabilizeals?  This makes me sad. 

Ztabealizers, obviously. 

Zteabagalizers. FTFY.

[tofgerl]

I humbly suggest we need a little more time on the stabilizer name

[ilovecorgis]

Just got new R4 prototypes in. Vertical wobble is gone, horizontal wobble feels about the same as regular Cherry right now. Will get Mr. Munch to get a second opinion and prep a video.

Will this review video be out before the GB ends?

[yoft]

Does anyone have any thoughts on 62g vs 65g? I've tried MX browns and I didn't get enough feedback when actuating so I ended up always bottoming out. Is 62g sufficiently more tactile than browns that I could go with that, or should I step up to 65g to get real differentiation from browns?

All else equal, I'd prefer the lighter switch; but I would go for the heavier switch if the tactile feedback is better.

Thanks!

[yookwh]

Hey Zeal, not sure if you're able to read this before the email I sent to the website - I accidentally forgot to place an additional order onto my first one, and so I made a second order. I'm hoping to combine these two together so I don't have to pay the extra shipping fees. Looking forward to the 78g switches!

[Fictiouz]

Does anyone have any thoughts on 62g vs 65g? I've tried MX browns and I didn't get enough feedback when actuating so I ended up always bottoming out. Is 62g sufficiently more tactile than browns that I could go with that, or should I step up to 65g to get real differentiation from browns?

All else equal, I'd prefer the lighter switch; but I would go for the heavier switch if the tactile feedback is better.

Thanks!

I would suggest 67g if you're looking for a good amount of feedback. 65g will suffice but the bump is most pronounced on 67g.

[Zeal]

Just got new R4 prototypes in. Vertical wobble is gone, horizontal wobble feels about the same as regular Cherry right now. Will get Mr. Munch to get a second opinion and prep a video.

Will this review video be out before the GB ends?

Will work on one shortly. Had a lot of stuff I had to prepare before the SF keyboard meet over the weekend, sorry about the delayed video. Also working on a few more minor tweaks with Gateron as well.

Does anyone have any thoughts on 62g vs 65g? I've tried MX browns and I didn't get enough feedback when actuating so I ended up always bottoming out. Is 62g sufficiently more tactile than browns that I could go with that, or should I step up to 65g to get real differentiation from browns?

All else equal, I'd prefer the lighter switch; but I would go for the heavier switch if the tactile feedback is better.

Thanks!

Working on tweaking the leaf design again this round to provide more tactile feedback than last. 62g already has a larger bump than browns, so If you like the lighter spectrum of switches, I'd say go for 62gs.

Hey Zeal, not sure if you're able to read this before the email I sent to the website - I accidentally forgot to place an additional order onto my first one, and so I made a second order. I'm hoping to combine these two together so I don't have to pay the extra shipping fees. Looking forward to the 78g switches!

I don't see any email from you, but I think I'm fairly certain I found the order you're referring to. Will combine the additional SIPs with your order.

[-musubi]

Does anyone have any thoughts on 62g vs 65g? I've tried MX browns and I didn't get enough feedback when actuating so I ended up always bottoming out. Is 62g sufficiently more tactile than browns that I could go with that, or should I step up to 65g to get real differentiation from browns?

All else equal, I'd prefer the lighter switch; but I would go for the heavier switch if the tactile feedback is better.

Thanks!

I would suggest 67g if you're looking for a good amount of feedback. 65g will suffice but the bump is most pronounced on 67g.

To me, if you prefer light switches but want a bigger tactile bump I think the 62g is sufficient. My first board was 62g and my second 67g, and I like the 67g because of the heavier weight. But in terms of bump, I feel that the 62g is just as "bumpy", it just doesn't have the cushion at the bottom out compared to the 67g.

[yoft]

To me, if you prefer light switches but want a bigger tactile bump I think the 62g is sufficient. My first board was 62g and my second 67g, and I like the 67g because of the heavier weight. But in terms of bump, I feel that the 62g is just as "bumpy", it just doesn't have the cushion at the bottom out compared to the 67g.

I would suggest 67g if you're looking for a good amount of feedback. 65g will suffice but the bump is most pronounced on 67g.

Working on tweaking the leaf design again this round to provide more tactile feedback than last. 62g already has a larger bump than browns, so If you like the lighter spectrum of switches, I'd say go for 62gs.

Really appreciate everyone's input! I'm gonna put in my order for 62g!

[Mr_BeastQuake]

If I ain't grunting with each keystroke, I need more feedback.

[jal]

If I ain't grunting with each keystroke, I need more feedback.

My next keyboard is going to be made out of staplers.

[Hypocaffeinic]

I'm in! Woohoo! Ordered 65g switches & Zealencios for my Minivan kit. Now to learn how to solder..... 

[exitfire401]

Sad that I couldn't scratch the cash together for that beautiful pcb in time, but finally got my order in for the clear stabs. Excited to combine them with the 65g zealios I already have to finish up my VE.A.

[Zeal]

Quick bump.

Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.


Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

[Brammm87]

Quick bump.

Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.

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Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

Oh ****, that looks good. I totally forgot I was in on this :p Time flies :p

[Fictiouz]

Quick bump.

Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.

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Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

So sad I missed r1! Can't wait for r2 though :)

[graefeln]

Quick bump.

Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.

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Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

So sad I missed r1! Can't wait for r2 though :)

I feel your pain man! I was going to throw a GH60 into my [upcoming] Weaven, but that is taking so long, I just decided to buy a different case/plate for it and do different with the Weaven later. Ended up putting in for a GON through LeandreN's R5 - but if I had made this decision earlier, it would have been a Zeal60... and I am kicking myself now.
Probably wouldn't have used the RGBs, but it would have been nice to have the firmware without having to worry about trying to convert the GON. It's okay though, at least the delay will still allow me to get in on this round of clear stabs!


Edit: Started with Zeal being a proxy for Weaven - so I threw in some Zealio... then he restocked Aristotles... then the GB for stabs came about (and if I decided earlier, I would have gone for a PCB too)... if Weaven doesn't ship soon, I'll end up with one of everything!

[supersoul]

is there any idea when this round will end? wanna get some 78g's

[Zeal]

is there any idea when this round will end? wanna get some 78g's

Very soon. Expected shipping time frame is still scheduled for November, unless there are any unforeseen delays.

[BAS1C]

Anyone wanting to back out of pcb, i'm your man.

[Zeal]

It's alive~~~



Non potato shots soon.

[iamtootallforthis]

It's alive~~~

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Non potato shots soon.

Looking forward to non-potatoes.

[FoC_Tow]

It's alive~~~

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Non potato shots soon.

Triggered

[twk]

This PCB is the most exciting thing for me in the keyboard community at the moment! I haven't ordered but if it's successful I will definitely order next round.

I have a POK3R and a Satan GH60 board with RGB-underlight. I really like the RGB leds on the Satan, but I can't live without the heavy metal case of the POK3R. With this PCB I would get the best of both worlds. Keep up the good work Zeal! Best wishes from Sweden!

[Zealousy]

When will the buy close? I don't see an end date listed anywhere...

[iamtootallforthis]

When will the buy close? I don't see an end date listed anywhere...

Zeal hasn't decided yet but I believe he has said very soon a few posts above.

[Dominathan]

Reserved for updates.

October 4, 2016:
Zeal60 Prototype is going through final phase of testing. Once OK'd it'll be produced very shortly.

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Zealios & accessories are still planned for November shipping. Will get a more definite date in a few weeks.

Oct 8, 2016
Prototypes getting sent to me very soon.

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I just jizzed in my pants a lil

[smittysteve]

It's alive~~~

Non potato shots soon.

Mmmmmmm- that's a tasty looking potato... Get on my desk already!