Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 74733 times)

hazeluff · « **Reply #200 on:** Wed, 18 January 2012, 11:12:22 »

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False advertising

= OOO gasssppp

jwaz · « **Reply #201 on:** Wed, 18 January 2012, 15:29:26 »

They responded to my email fairly quick. Sending them more info for the quote.

JSchool · « **Reply #202 on:** Wed, 18 January 2012, 19:28:04 »

Are the odds fairly high that this will turn into a group buy eventually? Trying to decide if I should keep my R3 order in the R4 group buy.

jwaz · « **Reply #203 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 04:36:49 »

Definitely wait until this turns into an official group buy before you cancel your order

It depends on what kind of quote devlin gives me on the set...

byFd · « **Reply #204 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 06:36:42 »

i think i remember reading somewhere that devlin can't/won't do doubleshots? not sure though...

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #205 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 10:43:05 »

Has fingers crossed... Even if they were to come back with only single units as doubleshots, and a decent price my opinion would be to still go with them just on a quality basis. If they can do the legends close to Cherry, correct colors, on nice keys that are so close to Cherry, a few blank keys would not bother me at all.
To be blunt, if using SP I have absolutely no interest in them. I would rather pay $200 for an entire Dolch PAC than have SP **** keycaps.

tsangan · « **Reply #206 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 13:46:11 »

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Has fingers crossed... Even if they were to come back with only single units as doubleshots, and a decent price my opinion would be to still go with them just on a quality basis. If they can do the legends close to Cherry, correct colors, on nice keys that are so close to Cherry, a few blank keys would not bother me at all.
To be blunt, if using SP I have absolutely no interest in them. I would rather pay $200 for an entire Dolch PAC than have SP **** keycaps.

Lots of hate :mad2:

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #207 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 14:05:55 »

LOL. Yeah I'm not a fan of SP, it's so obvious? The only keys I own that they did that are nice are vintage Wyse, and the Leopold esc keys. The rest of them are pretty meh, which is why I'm trading / selling them.

dorkvader · « **Reply #208 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 19:58:36 »

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LOL. Yeah I'm not a fan of SP, it's so obvious? The only keys I own that they did that are nice are vintage Wyse, and the Leopold esc keys. The rest of them are pretty meh, which is why I'm trading / selling them.

I'm not sure SP did the vintage WYSE: they're too nice!

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #209 on:** Thu, 19 January 2012, 20:01:38 »

Yep, I think they did... Then they changed molds sometime in the 90's and well... it's what it is. They still used the same font on later ones, and even now.

Forin · « **Reply #210 on:** Sat, 21 January 2012, 04:32:48 »

What is the status of this group buy? Is it gonna happen?

jlien · « **Reply #211 on:** Sat, 21 January 2012, 08:47:54 »

Im interested

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #212 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 03:56:28 »

What do you think, closer font?
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I suppose could mix VAG Rounded and Helvetica Rounded and get a close approximation.

hashbaz · « **Reply #213 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:34:03 »

Close enough for me. G is the only big difference that I can see.

hazeluff · « **Reply #214 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:42:27 »

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What do you think, closer font?
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I suppose could mix VAG Rounded and Helvetica Rounded and get a close approximation.

The problem isn't the font anymore, its the fact that SP won't do two width legends. Which means that keys like 'T','Q','R' and 'B' Won't look right. Otherwise we could of used the one I was making/The one fonts SP have.

eth0s · « **Reply #215 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:47:24 »

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Close enough for me. G is the only big difference that I can see.

+1, and I would buy a set if this is really going to happen.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #216 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 13:41:27 »

Any word from Devlin yet?

jwaz · « **Reply #217 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 13:51:07 »

They're looking for a .TTF if they have the font/ tooling already. But when I asked for Cherry's Formula One he came up with something completely different (Traditional "Formula One")

I'll send him that picture and see if he has anything close.

tsangan · « **Reply #218 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 13:55:43 »

Dolch fo lyfe! :hippie:

7bit · « **Reply #219 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 14:16:41 »

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Close enough for me. G is the only big difference that I can see.

G looks even better with that extra-line.

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The problem isn't the font anymore, its the fact that SP won't do two width legends. Which means that keys like 'T','Q','R' and 'B' Won't look right. Otherwise we could of used the one I was making/The one fonts SP have.

Would it be OK to have only the smaller labels (like Esc, Shift, Control etc.) made in a custom font with their maximum line width and the A-Z labels made with SVG legends?

jwaz · « **Reply #220 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 15:11:35 »

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Dolch fo lyfe! :hippie:

Nice pic!

Still waiting for a quote and working out logistics with Prabu from Devlin.

hazeluff · « **Reply #221 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 15:15:24 »

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G looks even better with that extra-line.

Would it be OK to have only the smaller labels (like Esc, Shift, Control etc.) made in a custom font with their maximum line width and the A-Z labels made with SVG legends?

I don't think its not possible, but depends on if we're gonna be charged for $25/35 per legend...thats... alot.

I've already drawn the things as SVGs, so if we can get that and not have to pay a buttload of money, itd be the way to go imo.

Also forgot earlier when I was talking about the font thing, I shouldn't of said it. Forgot we were checking out devlin. But what I was saying was refering the situation with SP.

tsangan · « **Reply #222 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 15:22:19 »

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I don't think its not possible, but depends on if we're gonna be charged for $25/35 per legend...thats... alot.

I've already drawn the things as SVGs, so if we can get that and not have to pay a buttload of money, itd be the way to go imo.

Also forgot earlier when I was talking about the font thing, I shouldn't of said it. Forgot we were checking out devlin. But what I was saying was refering the situation with SP.

SVGs fonts shouldn't cost $25-$45, from past group buys it was only $10 per legend.

boost · « **Reply #223 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 15:36:51 »

Im interested in a set or 2

7bit · « **Reply #224 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 15:57:34 »

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SVGs fonts shouldn't cost $25-$45, from past group buys it was only $10 per legend.

At least for Round 4 it is $45 because they "significantly underestimated the time and tooling it took to make these last time".

On the other hand, once we've got them, they do not charge more for the keys than with text-legends.

PS: If you can get Devlin to make double shots in any color we want and they've got the sizes we need, and they are not too expensive, maybe for Round 4 ... well let's see ...

hashbaz · « **Reply #225 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 16:10:59 »

Quote from: tsangan;497023

SVGs fonts shouldn't cost $25-$45, from past group buys it was only $10 per legend.

I thought you said that $10 was a volume discount? (volume of new legends, not keys) I paid $35 apiece for the new legends in my RGBY group buy.

tsangan · « **Reply #226 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 16:19:56 »

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At least for Round 4 it is $45 because they "significantly underestimated the time and tooling it took to make these last time".

On the other hand, once we've got them, they do not charge more for the keys than with text-legends.

PS: If you can get Devlin to make double shots in any color we want and they've got the sizes we need, and they are not too expensive, maybe for Round 4 ... well let's see ...

They just hate us and want to charge us more :<

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I thought you said that $10 was a volume discount? (volume of new legends, not keys) I paid $35 apiece for the new legends in my RGBY group buy.

Maybe I misunderstood Melissa then, even if that's the case then this GB should have the volume for $10/legend no?

hashbaz · « **Reply #227 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 16:24:54 »

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Maybe I misunderstood Melissa then, even if that's the case then this GB should have the volume for $10/legend no?

If there is a volume discount for legend fees, I imagine 87 legends would be enough to get it. But I've never heard that there is one outside of this thread. Are we sure it exists?

7bit · « **Reply #228 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 17:14:17 »

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If there is a volume discount for legend fees, I imagine 87 legends would be enough to get it. But I've never heard that there is one outside of this thread. Are we sure it exists?

I got a volume discount in Round3:
$0 for 1 unit keys and $25 for SVGs on larger keys.

Those where the good old times ...

tsangan · « **Reply #229 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 17:21:07 »

Quote from: hashbaz;497062

If there is a volume discount for legend fees, I imagine 87 legends would be enough to get it. But I've never heard that there is one outside of this thread. Are we sure it exists?

The cream cheese and green set was 86 legends and it was at $10/legend I got the quote from Melissa

hazeluff · « **Reply #230 on:** Mon, 23 January 2012, 17:24:59 »

I thought 7bit was talking about like non-centerline-SVGs earlier.

jwaz · « **Reply #231 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:18:56 »

They're very eager to send me some samples... I requested initial samples to be Helvetica Rounded Bold as they already have the tooling for that I believe. They're looking for a .ttf for custom fonts.

hashbaz · « **Reply #232 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:22:57 »

This is good news. How have we never done business with Devlin before? Do I remember right that they are in the UK? If so, should they send the samples to hazeluff to cut down on shipping time overhead?

jwaz · « **Reply #233 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:32:36 »

That's what I was thinking. Hazel where you at, want some samples? : p

hazeluff · « **Reply #234 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 16:49:59 »

Samples please!?

I don't mind getting them and taking photos. = )

keyboardnoob · « **Reply #235 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 18:32:10 »

If it includes the Colored modifiers I would probably get one.

litster · « **Reply #236 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 19:40:59 »

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If it includes the Colored modifiers I would probably get one.

Why would including colored modifiers be the deciding factor? That seems orthogonal to the spirit of a Dolch replica set.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #237 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 19:42:20 »

That makes 100% sense they should have a Cherry-esque font. Perusing their site again they say they are an official Cherry partner... makes me think they would have a matching font for custom jobs. Good news. Now if they come in with a reasonable price... if it's under $120 a set i'm definitely in, possibly for more than one.

hashbaz · « **Reply #238 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 22:08:21 »

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Why would including colored modifiers be the deciding factor? That seems orthogonal to the spirit of a Dolch replica set.

Heh, orthogonal. Spoken like a true programmer.

litster · « **Reply #239 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 22:21:45 »

I learn big words from our program managers :-)

keyboardnoob · « **Reply #240 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 22:22:33 »

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Why would including colored modifiers be the deciding factor? That seems orthogonal to the spirit of a Dolch replica set.

Because I could care less of the spirit of Dolch.

litster · « **Reply #241 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 22:28:28 »

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Because I could care less of the spirit of Dolch.

Then you are in the wrong group buy or you have no idea why we would do a Dolch replica. What you are basically saying is, "if this refrigerator comes with a tub of Neapolitan ice cream, I would probably get one."

metafour · « **Reply #242 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 22:39:03 »

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Then you are in the wrong group buy or you have no idea why we would do a Dolch replica. What you are basically saying is, "if this refrigerator comes with a tub of Neapolitan ice cream, I would probably get one."

Wait! Every fridge you've ever bought didn't come with a tub of Neapolitan ice cream? You're shopping at the wrong places...

keyboardnoob · « **Reply #243 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:21:28 »

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Then you are in the wrong group buy or you have no idea why we would do a Dolch replica. What you are basically saying is, "if this refrigerator comes with a tub of Neapolitan ice cream, I would probably get one."

This is by far the most retarded comparaison I have ever seen in my whole life.

litster · « **Reply #244 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:24:55 »

Let's say I misunderstood what you mean by colored modifiers. You don't mean RGB modifiers, do you? If you do, can you explain why including RGB would make you join this Dolch group buy?

Nice screen name, BTW.

hashbaz · « **Reply #245 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:31:22 »

Easy, fellas. keyboardnoob, I don't think it would make sense to include RGB modifiers with this group buy. Not everyone who wants a Dolch set would want them, and lots of people who don't want the Dolch set would.

You can order RGB sets from Round 4, and there are lots of sets from aggiejy's group buy floating around. And, of course, there is always my group buy.

litster · « **Reply #246 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:34:03 »

If it includes a bowl of poutine I would probably get one.

reaper · « **Reply #247 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:36:15 »

:pop2:

hashbaz · « **Reply #248 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:38:09 »

reaper I miss your old avatar.

reaper · « **Reply #249 on:** Tue, 24 January 2012, 23:40:29 »

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reaper I miss your old avatar.

Just for you... Now, where were we.. oh the popcorn. :pop2:

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Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 74733 times)