Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Vote for Kits & Quantities!

[JinDesu]

Voted - can't wait now o_o

[kidchunks]

I'm not sure.

Maybe she needs some PDF-file, or so. Something which they can use to make the tool.

I don't know if they 'print' the tool,
or have some CNC-machine to have it made.

Pretty sure they use vector files. As many molding machines I've seen rely on them (took many tours around molding shops when I was younger).

I can lend a hand in producing the vector files if thats what they require.

We need to get this rolling! I swore I wouldn't buy keyboards this year.

But that didn't leave out keycaps! :smile:

[steeef]

Pretty sure they use vector files. As many molding machines I've seen rely on them (took many tours around molding shops when I was younger).

I can lend a hand in producing the vector files if thats what they require.

We need to get this rolling! I swore I wouldn't buy keyboards this year.

But that didn't leave out keycaps! :smile:

Yup, Illustrator does vectoring. Resizing Photoshop images for use on printing keycaps sounds like a huge pain in the ass. I don't think converting to an .ai file would help.

[kidchunks]

thx ripster

Hey 7bit, can you contact them and ask what format/reso do they need the designs to be. Don't mind making the vectors, just want to know the requirements before I start.

Yup, Illustrator does vectoring. Resizing Photoshop images for use on printing keycaps sounds like a huge pain in the ass. I don't think converting to an .ai file would help.

Why most places(tshirt, molding shops, ect) request vector files (not only limited to .ai) because it makes resizing a breeze.

[Broncosoozie]

Oo I didn't realize the price went down on blanks a bit.  Time to change up my vote!

[BlueRain]

Is there a possibility for blue blanks? Since you already have the BLUEONWHITE, though I do realize that only covers partial keyboard.

[Ekaros]

Hmm, so red blank set next so we can totaly explode geekhack?

Do, I need to grab blank set of keys too... Which color? This order is getting expensive...

[Twitchy]

I think that colours of the eyes on Ripster's red awesome key are the wrong way around. If you lose the border then you can reverse the colours.



I think another minor adjustment that should work is to get rid of the line around awesome's mouth and instead have a short line separating his tongue from his face. This helps keep the roof of his mouth in shadow.



I'd be interested to know what other people think.

[BlueRain]

Yay! Thanks for adding the options for blue blanks

One more question: will the blanks have the nubs for F/J keys on the home row?

[7bit_vote]

I think that colours of the eyes on Ripster's red awesome key are the wrong way around. If you lose the border then you can reverse the colours.

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I think another minor adjustment that should work is to get rid of the line around awesome's mouth and instead have a short line separating his tongue from his face. This helps keep the roof of his mouth in shadow.

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I'd be interested to know what other people think.

Your design is much better than ripsters, so I enhanced your graphics and included them:

Awesome Face black on yellow


Awesome Face white on red

[7bit_vote]

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[7bit_vote]

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[7bit]

Yay! Thanks for adding the options for blue blanks

One more question: will the blanks have the nubs for F/J keys on the home row?

I thought about those nubbed keys a long while ago.

I think it would be best to include both.

Some touch typists love them, and some aesthetics fetishists (like me) hate them. Especially with blanks they look displaced.

But now to something very important:
Some time ago I requested the measures of certain space bars.

The space bars for Filco and recent Cherry G80-3000 keyboards are well known and included as the default space bar (fits both).

I measured the old-style space bar for Cherry keybaords without Windows keys myself. I'm pretty sure SP has the tools to make it.

The key-mount distances are 57mm and the overall width is 142mm.

If someone has got a different space bar and the abilities to measure it properly, I would much appreciate, if that one would share her/his knowledge with us.

[BlueRain]

I thought about those nubbed keys a long while ago.

I think it would be best to include both.

So if I vote BLANK, it will include two extra keys in the home row, or will I need to specify which I want?

[7bit]

So if I vote BLANK, it will include two extra keys in the home row, or will I need to specify which I want?

Nope!

I will include nubbed and un-nubbed F and J keys to standard and every blank kit.

[002]

Let's hear it for Twitchy and his awesome face idea guys!!

[002]

Well how's this HD version?


I find it funny that HD gets tagged at the end of so many things now. Just yesterday I saw that they released Uno HD for Windows Phone 7. How did we manage to get so far with Standard Definition Uno!?

[002]

I was never suggesting a trollface key and I certainly wouldnt buy one either.

[Twitchy]

Just yesterday I saw that they released Uno HD for Windows Phone 7. How did we manage to get so far with Standard Definition Uno!?

I hear that Uno 3D is to be the next big Uno development. Apparently it'll recreate playing Uno with a deck of cards PERFECTLY, and in 3D! I for one can't wait.

[002]

Apparently it'll recreate playing Uno with a deck of cards PERFECTLY, and in 3D! I for one can't wait.

I hear that it's actually almost getting that ridiculous with those guitar hero games where now they have a button for every chord/fret/whatever? Why not just play a real guitar ffs?

[iMav]

I hear that Uno 3D is to be the next big Uno development. Apparently it'll recreate playing Uno with a deck of cards PERFECTLY, and in 3D! I for one can't wait.

Only if there is a Hot Death Uno option.

[7bit]

Only if there is a Hot Death Uno option.

Sorry for posting off topic:

What about an iMav-Face?



Don't know if they can produce double shots with 2 layers, though.

[7bit_vote]

Thx for your attention Sorry for lots of changes though..

In the name of my litle perl-script I say thanks for your apreciation! You don't have to feel sorry about lots of changes. My little perl-script feels very bored with those few messages.

BTW:
It isn't harmful to add plain text, but somtimes my script fails:

Cheers
Saint

results in:

BLUEBLANK...................1
CHEERS......................1
FR..........................1
JRETWHITE...................1
REDBLANK....................1
REDBLANKMOD.................1
SAINT.......................1
SE..........................1
SPACELEOGREY................1


just write
Cheers,
Saint!

or

RED - 1
AWESOMERED - 1
WASDWITHARROWSRED - 1
WASDWITHARROWSBLUE - 1
WASDWITHARROWSWHITE - 1
KEYBOARDKEY - 1

results in nothing, because of that dash.

For better understanding[1], here are the regular expressions,
to have one set:
^([[:alnum:]]+)([[:space:]]*)$

to have more than one set
^([[:alnum:]]*)([[:space:]]+)([[:digit:]]+)([[:space:]]*)$

Thanks for your attention!

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[1] hey, this is Geek Hack after all, isn't it?

[db_Iodine]

Instead of orange blanks, a full 104/105-key set of iMav keys. That would be quite funny.

[Minskleip]

'.. and that was the beginning of the Geek Hack Cult' students of archeology will read in a thousand years from now.

[bugfix]

@7bit do you live in Germany by any chance? If yes what ZIP area? (5xxxx)

Edit: Nvm you live in Berlin...

[7bit]

I'm thinking the Awesome/Reddit/WingdingsKeyboard keys might look better in the Vintage Spherical Key format Signature uses for their novelty keys.

And I'm telling ya, once these are done and I post on Reddit I'd expect some serious volume if done right.   Be sure to reinforce to Signature that the design belongs to Geekhack - might as well send some profits iMav's way.

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What about pad-printing a copyright notice at the front of those keys?

However, I think there will be no price difference between SA or DCS family.

On the other hand, if all keyas are from DCS family and that Awesome face is not, it might look queer.

[7bit]

...
The reason I mention the Novelty keys is they are considerably thicker and the graphic will be sharper because of the lack of texture.
...

Lack of texture could be applied to DCS keys as well.

I still wait for the list of modifier keys which could be done in SA-family.
Mrs. Signature told me the can't do all of them, but some. However, they can make all single sized keys of the SA-family.

[7bit]

Everybody listen now:

Some people want Leopold space bars.

If you are by any chance in possession of a Leopold space bar, please take your sharpest ruler out and measure the distances of key mounts and overall width of your space bar!

Please post your measures here, or send me a message, if you are too shy to post your measures in public.

Thank You!

PS: If you have got other space bars (for POS keyboards or such): just measure them and post results here as well!

[clickclack]

The Leopold spacebars are symmetrical.

They are 118.00mm wide w/o flashing,
with flashing 118.10mm.

3 cherry compatible shafts total.
1x switch dead center 59.00mm (remember it's symmetrical).
2x cherry stabalizer shafts each 19.00mm dead center from the outside edge.
In other words the shaft centers are 40.00mm apart.

Done with calipers to machine tolerances by manufacturing knowledge.
.05mm practical tolerance, .10mm acceptable tolerance.

At least those are the measurements I used when I made them.

=)

[7bit]

The Leopold spacebars are symmetrical.

They are 118.00mm wide w/o flashing,
with flashing 118.10mm.

3 cherry compatible shafts total.
1x switch dead center 59.00mm (remember it's symmetrical).
2x cherry stabalizer shafts each 19.00mm dead center from the outside edge.
In other words the shaft centers are 40.00mm apart.

Done with calipers to machine tolerances by manufacturing knowledge.
.05mm practical tolerance, .10mm acceptable tolerance.

At least those are the measurements I used when I made them.

=)

Thanks a lot!

Do you have any measures of different space bars?

[clickclack]

I don't think I have any other ones on me at the moment, I know I have other measurements at the studio though. But I won't be back there for another week as I am going on a trip in the next couple days.

[clickclack]

Whoops! I just saw another one with some of my design notes, but I don't see any other ones, so they must be at the studio.

MX-11800 spacebar (Compaq, brown cherry one)

There apparently were some slight variances due to different demolding shrinkages but here is apparently what I had.

4 cherry compatible shafts, only 3 are used on any given compatible board.

-131.60mm length
-65.80mm dead center switch shaft (symmetrical)
-On the right hand side there is an extra off-center stabalizer shaft. It's center is 42.80mm to the right of the center shaft or 23.00mm from the right of the out-side edge.
-The 2 symmetrical stabalizers are 57.00mm from the middle of the center shaft.

=3

[7bit]

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MX-11800 spacebar (Compaq, brown cherry one)
...

Brilliant!

Thank you again!

Now I hope SP can make them without taking too much $$$.

[7bit]

In order to choose the colors for those extra keys, I need some good photos of those color samples from Signature Plastics, shot with a decent camera[1].



I need the pictures along with the color codes. Don't photograph every shade of every color.

It is sufficient to have some of them:
Some light blue as shown in the layout samples, something more dark blue[2], bloody red, apple exteded yellow, and death white.

Thank you!

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[1] I could have said Nikon instead of decent, but I didn't want to upset those Canon, Hasselblad, Leica, Minolta[3], or Pentax guys.

[2]
 


[3] and yes, I know it's Sony now.

[bugfix]

I
[1] I could have said Nikon instead of decent, but I didn't want to upset those Canon, Hasselblad, Leica, Minolta[3], or Pentax guys.

And Olympus? WHAT ABOUT OLYMPUS?

[7bit]

And Olympus? WHAT ABOUT OLYMPUS?

I said decent!

Anyway. Are you in possession of those color samples?

[Ekaros]

Got some realy bad pictures of Steekeys 6G, if needed...

[Twitchy]

I need some good photos of those color samples from Signature Plastics, shot with a decent camera

Found these in the round two thread:

• Sixty has a set
  
• Fwiffo has a set in ABS
  
• Fssbzz may have a set and certainly provided a photo that I've not seen elsewhere.
  

I don't know if any of these guys can get what you need, Fwiffo did say he'd have to borrow a camera.

[bugfix]

The red indeed does look great.

I ordered one of their ESC keys here and it has the same color.

[Ekaros]

Hard to say anything anyway with my uncalibrated bad TN-monitor.

Still, red is hot

[7bit]

Found these in the round two thread:

• Sixty has a set
  
• Fwiffo has a set in ABS
  
• Fssbzz may have a set and certainly provided a photo that I've not seen elsewhere.
  

I don't know if any of these guys can get what you need, Fwiffo did say he'd have to borrow a camera.

Thanks for digging those out!

I like this Red and Yellow.
[IMAGE OF A RED ESC, YELLOW SMILEY AND A BLACK FLAME KEY]

I like the red too! So it's settled.

I will tell her, we want that Red Escape red. Just have to make sure they didn't change the red in the menatime.

The yellow looks dirty to me. Did the key come like this out of production?

Anyway, if you want your damn dirty yellow, you should have it.

Anyone in for the flame key? (given it is not copyrighted by someone)

Now, we just have to decide what Kind of Blue we need ...

[bugfix]

Now, we just have to decide what Kind of Blue we need ...

Azure looks very nice imho. Or just the standard 0, 0, 255

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Is there a ducky function media key option ?

Example the F1-F7 in addition have icons for media shortcuts when pressed simultaneously with the FN key.

I posted a screenshot example in my review

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:14092&goto=newpost

[7bit]

Here's a reference blue from their novelty set.

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Thank you for cleaning the yellow key!

Is it the same orange as in Round 1? (its darker, right?)

And how do I ask Mrs Signature, that I want the blue to be the same as on that "Oh S([hi]{2})t" key?

[7bit]

Is there a ducky function media key option ?

Example the F1-F7 in addition have icons for media shortcuts when pressed simultaneously with the FN key.

I posted a screenshot example in my review

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:14092&goto=newpost

I'm not sure if they have those symbols in stock. Would be easier to do these in text:

F1 LOUD
F2 LOUDER
F3 LOUDEST
F4 PLAY/PAUSE
F5 STOP
F6 PREV TRACK
F7 NEXT TRACK

Otherwise, take 25 sets and pay 3.85 per key.

In the function kit exist already keys for that purpose:
VOLUME UP, VOLUME DOWN, MUTE, NEXT, PREV, STOP, PLAY etc.

PAUSE is part of the standard kit.

[bugfix]

And how do I ask Mrs Signature, that I want the blue to be the same as on that "Oh S([hi]{2})t" key?

You could send her an email and provide her with a link to the image ripster posted.

[7bit]

You could send her an email and provide her with a link to the image ripster posted.

So the blame will be on Ripster again!

Great idea, thank you!

[bugfix]

Great idea, thank you!

Are you being sarcastic?

[7bit]

Are you being sarcastic?

No, I'm practicing politeness.